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Did he bring it up or was it a caller?

That was SWEET!!!

I put out the mention of the bitcoin forum as well. Should stir up quite a bit of attention!

Alex Jones is ON IT NOW!

Just turned MILLIONS of people onto the idea of bitcoin JUST NOW!!!

If anyone wants to donate:  ;D

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About time Alex mentioned this phenomena ... cheers

I brought it up as a caller for Alex Jones and Bob Chapman. They actually listened to me and took my information as I spoke. Alex mentioned that he has heard of it before. He actually refrained from bashing it. I got some great words in about and a cool mention of the exact website here at bitcoin forum for people to come learn more about it. Alex stated he would be looking into it more.

Link to the recorded air show anyone?

Great JOb! Although I find it very hard seeing alex promoting it.  I'm sure alot of his listeners will dig deep.  I used to be a pretty devoted listener.

http://www.prisonplanet.com - Go to Alex Jones Radio Show / Then Listen Live, then listen to the stream. It repeats all day along. Someone will post the clip to youtube in due time. It was in his fourth hour with Bob. As soon as I can, if possible, i'll link it up here.

Im not sure if they replay the 4th hour though. If not, someone with an account will have to post the clip to youtube.

Well I don't see you trying day after day to get on a program that only takes calls for a brief period of time, only a few times a week. I don't see you taking on a host that will easily cut you off at the slightest whim and cut your throat on air for dominance. Talking about bitcoins with someone as popular as Alex, or mentioning the forum on a program listened to by millions daily. I don't see you doing anything, actually, but putting people down with insults. Everything takes time and has to start somewhere. Yes Max likes bitcoins, but if Alex knows little about it and the listeners are not very familiar with it, then does it hurt or help to mention on air and help spread the message? Maybe next time, Alex will be more open yet, and have someone on air to talk to about bitcoins. maybe it's be Max. You should not be so harsh. Everything we do to promote bitcoins in a positive light, is helpful for everyone. If it bothers you, send me a bitcoin donation, and i'll never do it again.  ;D

Here it is everyone...starts at approx. 6:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW31NnmAZHo

Alex Jones listener base is huge...

I can see them all looking into it over the weekend, setting up a Dwolla account, it takes about 2 week days to activate, they begin their money transfers on Tuesday from their bank accounts, they get the money through Thursday or Friday and boom...price skyrocket by the end of the week.

:)

I Think you did a wonderfull job bitrebel!

I emailed them guy somewhere end 2010/early 2011 but i never got a reply.

Just listened, great stuff!! He was skeptical like any of us were at first but he took a note of it. I wouldn't be surprised Alex talking more about it in the future after this conversation.  Good job bitrebel!

I was thinking the same thing. lol
Glad I just got another $200 into tradehill.
Now if it'll just dip a little before the run up.

Thanks. You know the great thing is, his audience is the perfect crowd for this information and concept. They all hate the bankers and they all know the power and evil of central banking systems. But then again, you have the red necks that don't trust anything computer centralized, so it should be interesting. His crowd in the last few years has gotten younger and younger and now it's mainstream in many ways, but they are mostly all rebels at heart.

I wish before anyone runs to setup Dwolla account they learn as much as possible about bitcoins not just buying in to the hype. This way they will be able to handle exchange swings a little better and it will provide more stability and support to the whole project in the future.

In any case a weekend should be enough time for good research. It took me 30 seconds into my first bitcoin article to be curious, 30 minutes of research to be excited and about 6-8 hours to fully comprehend how it all fit together. I might be a bit above or below average but I'd imagine two full days should be enough research time for anyone (at least anyone who actually listens to Alex Jones) to have at least a solid picture of what bitcoin is, what it aims to do and how to make it all work.

I would expect to see a small explosion from this. Not like the Silkroad article of course, but better publicity nonetheless. But the time it will take...some will get into it right away, others will raise their eyebrows, and be more aware of it than before. I'm thinking Bob Chapman's ears perked up a bit when I mentioned they went from 6 cents to over $15. That's something he will pay attention to. That would be cool if Bob Chapman Max Kieser and Alex would do a shirt segment on bitcoins. People need to let him know now. Now that he's awake to it.

Great job man!  Were you nervous talking to the AJ man himself? lol

lol, a little, yes. It's intimidating because he gets agro very easily and it's his show. He has cut me off before in the past on other subjects and not allowed me to speak, so I know it's easy to get censored by him. I wish I had fit more potent info into the small time I had to speak. Like the blockchain explanation a little and transactions and verification. I'll call in again in a month or two and he'll be more prepped for the call by then. I'll get further into the details. Hopefully, now i'll get some more time and respect from him when I call in about it.

I think Bob will love the idea when he get's his head wrapped around it. He'll tell Alex how powerful it really is, and Alex will show lots of respect for bitcoin in the near future.

Wouldn't be surprised. It's pretty common to be nervous calling a talk show. Hell, I was nervous when I was a GUEST on Alex Jones.

The main things to remember are: Keep your points very short and to the point, and if the host wants to blather on for a while, let him go. He'll run out of breath eventually.

When were you a guest?

Oh boy more morons/conspiracy theorists/christian fundamentalists on the forum. As if the bit-community wasn't bad enough already.  ::)

You did well, bitrebel. What did fatty mean when he asked how it was denominated? Whether it's tied to the USD?

I've heard the name Alex Jones before, but never actually listened to his show. He sounds a little crazy to me.

2007, maybe? It's been quite a while.

Alex is pretty cool. He has done a lot for the freedom movement. He has his flaws though. he's human.
I think he completely misunderstood the concept, actually. It's denominated IN BITCOIN. That's what I should have said. The idea needed much more fleshing out on the air, and more time would be needed for it. Hopefully next time. Trying to teach Alex about something completely new is like trying to teach a kid to swim or to ride a bike. It almost certainly never happens the first time.

Also, Alex is a gold bug, and some of them miss the concept of bitcoin because they feel it lacks tangible value. I think Alex will see the light though on this one. He is very open minded, yet stubborn. Much like myself.

He doesn't understand how it is at all. He asks what its denominated in because most of these alternate currencies are devised entirely from dollars. So if the dollar is being inflated so is this alternate currency.

I applaud the effort, but it did not look like he was at all interested or intrigued by bitcoins. I have not heard of his name before (Maybe I'm living under a rock) but I imagine if his show is as well known as people seem to think, this will generate quite a bit of momentum.

The host does seem like kind of a dink.

His websites are just under some of the top websites for news on the internet. His radio show has more listeners than practically any show out there today. He is THE KING of alternative media and his program is simulcast all around the world by hundreds of affiliates. He is heard by millions worldwide daily.

So what you're saying is that he is a dink? :)

Well I do stand up for him on occasion, but I would not defend him against that accusation.  ;)

Oh come on, AJ is not a dink. He is just enthusiastic and realistic about the war he's fighting. We are up against some extremely ruthless people, playing nicey-nice is not going to go very far. Granted it's not the best way to draw people in, but its his nature, and he wouldn't be AJ if he didn't cut people off and go on thumping rants!

Hah. Maybe that's the reason why it will rise this weekend?

now AJ and his fans can donate to wikileaks =)

bitrebel:  congrats on your efforts to spread the word.  you know i'm a fan of yours right?  but i have a few suggestions the next time you appear on Alex's show.

1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin computers makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency UNTO ITSELF and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

love ya man.

love right back to you, Bro. Thanks Cypherdoc. I'm actually going to make a list of short concept points based on your post, and gather a nice little list together for the next time I call in. I'll start by telling him I have a short list of the best points about it and then have him ask me questions about any one of them. That's very helpful. Together, we'll take this ship back from the pirates....I mean, uhem, Masons.

and of course, when we do, we'll raise the flag of the Bitcoin.

thats an excellent strategy.  get what you want out on to the table first and fast before they cut you off.  i know how tough that must be under pressure knowing that they can cut you off at any second. 

study that interview and ask yourself what you could've done better. 

all in all a great effort.

Good job, bitreb!  Would you do us a favor and share your short list of the best points here?  I think we should all have an elevator version of what is bitcoin handy. thanks.

@cypherdoc, you just wrote bitcoin PR manual.


I'll restate your points and will add some

Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum
- specific exchanges and businesses (unless you've been paid for that, maybe)

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- quick and low cost payments over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc
- easier to store and transport than gold
- it is just like gold which you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcon.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at <whatever> dollars now.
- traded on a number of independent exchanges, which set up valuation against fiat currencies.
- potential low cost replacement of interbank settlement networks such as SWIFT

feel free to add to these lists

@all, do not freaking even think to speak to media before reading this.  ;)

Good list.  I tried to explain Bitcoin to my family and started dropping all sorts of terminology (i.e., distributed ledger stored in a blockchain) and I completely lost them - and my mother started drooling on herself.

you should probably script the whole thing out before hand, have a bunch of responses to a bunch of possible questions, watch as many of his shows before the interview to find out how he thinks, BE HIS HUSBAND before you call again.

if this were to work out, and you genuinely convince him to accept BTC on his website, you will undoubtedly raise the value of it.

see my modifications:

Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum
- specific exchanges and businesses (unless you've been paid for that, maybe)

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- quick and low cost payments over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous (no one knows this word w/o looking it up in dictionary) and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc many ppl view Wikileaks unfavorably
- easier to store and transport than gold
- its is just not like gold which and you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcoin.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at <whatever> dollars now.
- traded on a number of independent exchanges WORLDWIDE, which set up valuation against fiat currencies.

Scenarios:
1. if cornered into talking about mining or blockchain, just say "its one huge verification network for financial tx's"
2. if they say "isn't that a huge waste of electricity and computer work?"; just say "not compared to the waste of the banksters and financial system in place today which the blockchain replaces".
3. if they ask "can't the gov't shut it down?" just say "they can't".  never mind the 51% attack since thats a theoretical concept that is highly improbable if not impossible.
4. if cornered into talking about Satoshi just say "i've never met him but i know the head dev is from Princeton (i know, i know but the MSM loves this sh*t whether we do or not) and the rest of them are wicked smart." THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE MY MOST UNPOPULAR RECOMMENDATION.


feel free to add to these lists

@all, do not freaking even think to speak to media before reading this.  Wink

im starting to think that bitcoin is a little to advanced for the age we live in. in the US alone, a good 30% of the population at least can be classified as a Hoosier. in a way i feel like Tesla, except retarded. :-\

not at all.  do you think those same Hoosiers give a darn about how Bitcoin functions in the end?  No way.  They'll just want to "bump" their phones and see the payment go thru and they'll be happy.

do you think the Kenyans know or care about how M Pesa works?  No way.  They're just happy that their wives got the money on the other side of the country to feed their kids and that they didn't have to ride a donkey to give it to them.

this is why when we explain Bitcoin's concepts to less informed people just talk about the basics and forget about all the nuances and exceptions.  this is why Amir Taaki has such a hard time.  for every positive he mentions about Bitcoin he can't help but throw in a negative that he's aware of as a developer.  this is b/c he's so immersed in it he can't help but talk about them.  and i don't blame him; after all its his responsibility to find the problems and get them fixed so thats all he can think about.  he's lost in the trees so to speak and can't step back and view the forest let alone articulate about it.

I don't know if bit-torrent should be mentioned here. After all, it conjures up images of pirates and angry corps sending lawyers to haunt people.

-open source
-new market opportunities
-promotes individual responsibility due to insecure wallet implementation

alex jones already said he'll look into it and he will undoubtedly search for his name in the forum and find this thread.  :o

I actually emailed Alex Jones a few weeks ago asking for a quote on what it would cost to run some Bitcoin adds on his show.
No one got back to me at all.

Here was the email I sent:

From: Roger Ver [mailto:roger@memorydealers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:43 PM
To: 'infoads@infowars.com'
Subject: Bitcoin Advertising
 
I am interested in advertising bitcoins on your website and radio show.
I’m currently running the following bitcoin add on Free Talk Live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H15HyTti8vk
 
I am interested in doing a similar add and live read on your show as well as some links from your website.
 
Can you give me an idea of what something like this would cost?
I’m interested in doing this because I think bitcoins are the best way to take away power from the government and banksters,  and give people back control of their own money.
If you don’t know what bitcoins are,  please visit www.bitcoin.org
 
Thanks so much!
 
 
 
Roger Ver
Memorydealers KK
(A Division of MemoryDealers.com, Inc.)
8F Kudan minami green building,
3-7-7 Kudan minami, Chiyoda-ku,
Tokyo, 102-0074, Japan
roger@memorydealers.com
 
TEL +81-3-6280-8666
FAX +81-3-6280-8665
MOBILE: +81-80-3242-1056
AIM: rogerkver
MSN roger@memorydealers.com
Yahoo rogerkver
Twitter http://twitter.com/MemoryDealers
 
 
For all your Memory needs please visit
http://www.memorydealers.com

Does everyone think he didn't already know about bitcoin?
jahova's witnesses, don't be them.

hmmm.  so he's doing so well he doesn't bother to respond to a potential advertiser?

or is he and his staff too lazy to review their emails?

what do you think Roger?

Maybe he already knows just to search for "dink".
I know pointing out spelling mistakes on forums is petty, but given the relationship between the "name of god", combinations and permutations, cryptography, and bitcoins, that one really stands out.

i listen to alex jones's show every day.  screw waiting another couple months.  start calling him weekly and put forward the information and the listeners will respond with a large increase in demand for bitcoins. 

as alex would say: HIT EM AND HIT'EM HARD

I was kinda hoping to acquire a few more before the price goes sky high, lol.

That being said....I was also thinking about something along the lines of a "Bitcoin Bomb" on Google, like Alex does for some key search terms to propel them into the number #1 position. We could actually organize a Bitcoin Bomb from the forum here, and when a key article is posted on google on the news, we all hit a certain selected keyword on our computers on that day, and it will propel the article to #1 in the searched and trends for the day.

Here is how it would work.

An article comes out that is positive about bitcoins. It has the 2 word term "bitcoin following" in it. We post in a a thread about the "Bitcoin Bomb" the 2 work keyword search term. Then, everyone keeps typing that term into their browser in the google search box that day. Then, the term and article are propelled into number #1 position, or close. If enough people do it, it will work. Alex proved that over and over again. I'll get it started. We'll see what happens.

Just don't tell AJ that Satoshi is Agent No.1 of the NWO*

CyberPunk New World Order that is

That possibility will be eliminated when Alex has a chance to interview someone about bitcoins on his program and spend time actually getting deeper into it. But, yeah, I already thought of what would happen if Alex unknowingly rallied against it because of ignorance. It won't happen as long as people encourage him in  a positive way about it.

I used to listen to alex jones until he became a birther. Then i stopped caring.

I would guess it just got lost in the spam filter.
Does anyone have a better contact email for someone at his organization?
I am willing to try again.

Oh but who is to say Alex isn't Satoshi.... It all makes sense now!

You voted for O-daddy?

nope

I hope that means you didn't vote at all. Watching Americans squander having Obama as a president is shocking.

I would hope that even if you are politically opposed to Obama, you can recognize this birther crap for the crazy nonsense it is.  How stupid and / or stubborn and / or racist do you have to be to believe this?

+1

"...two full days should be enough research time for anyone..." was exactly correct for me. Two full ten hour days of reading before I joined this forum and stated developing Project X.

I envision Alex Jones exploring, then discussing Bitcoin on a regular basis.

Bitcoin: Where Liberty Blossoms

LOL! AJ Aggro is a huge THREAT!!! Ok, ok, enough WoW-speak. :D

Now that this is bumped, anybody have anything with the latest on Alex Jones and Bitcoin?

He is too busy talking BS to talk about bitcoin!!!!!!!!!!