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Title: Satoshi identified, but its not HD Moore!
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 02:18:59 AM
Satoshi: H. D. Moore is a Information security researcher and programmer.
He developed security software utilities for the United States Department of Defense.

A TV News story about HD Moore, Austin Texas about 15 years ago as he began his "White Hat" hacking career.
HD Moore- High School Hacker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6JyIUyRi4U)
Blast from the Past, Austin Hackers Association (http://druid.caughq.org/)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/hk/hd-moore-470-1008.jpg
Man is he quick

Proof?

Edit:     Lets summarise some known facts:
2009-01-03 18:15:05 Historic moment Genesis block (0) created
2009-01-09 02:54:25 Block 1, mining started
2009-01-11 23:14:04 dustin trammell has   Generated (mined) two blocks (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Source:Trammell/Nakamoto_emails)  
2009-01-12 03:30:25 First known transaction ever to outspoken cypherpunk Hal Finney
2009-01-13  18:20:08 50 coins where mined
2009-01-16  19:18:35 those 50 coins where sent to address 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv (http://blockchain.info/address/12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv?offset=50&filter=0)
a total of 77,624 BTC  where received at this address until 2011-06-04 then cashed out
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=I}ruid
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=I}ruid&sign=ANY&type=RECV

|}ruid is Dustin trammell

Dustin D. Trammell
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I am both I)ruid and I}ruid.  I)ruid is the correct spelling.  I use the alternate I}ruid spelling on IRC due to the IRC protocol not allowing the close-parenthesis character ")" to be used in nicknames.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23696,  yes VIP status with a registration date of June 2011

HD Moore,  Dustin D. Trammell and Tod Beardsley,  all co-founded AHA! (the Austin Hackers Association) many years ago.  All three still attend monthly meetings.
AHA is a white had hacker group that is Government friendly (Cahoots) and a hack against the hacker.

  • HD Moore: Information security researcher and programmer, Moore developed security software utilities for the United States Department of Defense.
  • Dustin D. Trammell:  Entrepreneur, Security Researcher performing research within the fields of vulnerability exploitation, network protocols, steganography and covert communications, and Internet telephony
  • Tod Beardsley:  Technical Lead for the Metasploit Framework and Metasploit Pro, Founded Austin Hackers Anonymous  August 2006

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Moore, who today is one of the best known names in security research, had just returned to high school after dropping out for two years. He was getting some hands-on experience in security by auditing, consulting, and setting up collocation servers. Moore didn't have the proper classified security clearance at DOD, but his job description was written so that his then-rare skills could still be applied to some classified DOD work. He developed some exploits and wrote "something that captures traffic based on a set of rules" (essentially a sniffer) for DOD (http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-Atlanta/events/77588622/)
Straight talk a US Government Snitch

Now depending of your view point you could ask is it a surprise that DPR is where he is?. Have you still got faith in the blockchain and that it is good for you?
To Alternative coins look attractive with 100% knowledge from the start who is behind it and is truly decentralized.
With this known affiliated friendliness to the DOD Bitcoin is tainted to say the leased.

Update2:
Its sad that Bitcoin got infiltrated so early on. It goes to show that nothing you do on the net is private.
http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/
Bitcoin Top 500 Richest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0)
Don't kid yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVOmVbHtz1k) The last 2 minutes its about bitcoin.


Of topic:
As for myself, just an ordinary user, brought the first bitcoin on the 21.06.2011, 20:37:20  at £11.39 from a London private banker and only registered with the forum because the known Polish low-life "M4v3R" also known as "Bitalo_Maciej" misused some of my coins (110.9 to be exact) with the Bitmarket.eu exchange. Prior to that i just followed from the side line.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: franky1 on October 16, 2013, 02:25:01 AM
Satoshi, H. D. Moore  a.k.a  "I}ruid"  (I end real user identification)
is a Information security researcher and programmer.
He developed security software utilities for the United States Department of Defense.

A TV News story about HD Moore, Austin Texas about 15 years ago as he began his "White Hat" hacking career.
HD Moore- High School Hacker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6JyIUyRi4U)
He tracked Tor paedophiles http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/hacker-builds-tracking-system-to-nab-tor-paedophiles/114
He likes "The Hacker Diaries by Dan Verton"
Blast from the Past, Austin Hackers Association (http://druid.caughq.org/)

The Mind of HD Moore (http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/mind-hd-moore-678?page=0,0)

nice try but satoshi is not Druid.. keep trying though

And this..
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=I}ruid&sign=ANY&type=RECV

Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid
https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

(not Satoshi)

Correct, I am not Satoshi.  I did however work with him via email on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Elwar on October 16, 2013, 02:29:10 AM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.

It will be like claiming that the Pthagorean theorum is not sound because Pthagoreus slept with whores.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 02:32:02 AM
Satoshi, H. D. Moore  a.k.a  "I}ruid"  (I end real user identification)
is a Information security researcher and programmer.
He developed security software utilities for the United States Department of Defense.

A TV News story about HD Moore, Austin Texas about 15 years ago as he began his "White Hat" hacking career.
HD Moore- High School Hacker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6JyIUyRi4U)
He tracked Tor paedophiles http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/hacker-builds-tracking-system-to-nab-tor-paedophiles/114
He likes "The Hacker Diaries by Dan Verton"
Blast from the Past, Austin Hackers Association (http://druid.caughq.org/)

The Mind of HD Moore (http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/mind-hd-moore-678?page=0,0)

nice try but satoshi is not Druid.. keep trying though

And this..
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=I}ruid&sign=ANY&type=RECV

Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid
https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

(not Satoshi)

Correct, I am not Satoshi.  I did however work with him via email on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.

H. D. Moore
.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: keatonatron on October 16, 2013, 02:35:47 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Zeek_W on October 16, 2013, 02:38:33 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.
LOL what if it's actually Josh or Yifu  :-\


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: franky1 on October 16, 2013, 02:50:53 AM
to manfred

|}ruid is Dustin trammell

i actually quoted you an post that DustinTrammell donated to the bitcoin foundation as the username |}ruid and also the quote from the username of dustin Trammell..

so please read.

satoshi nakamoto is not druid and druid is not satoshi nakamoto

but please try again

secondly H.D moore is I)ruid not I}ruid ... check your 'blast from the past link http://druid.caughq.org/ it clearly shows a bracket ) not code-end }

so here  goes again
I BRACKET ruid =H.D Moore - no link to bitcoin
I CODE END ruid = Dustin Trammell - helped satoshi, GavinA and others

satoshi is a separate entity


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Syke on October 16, 2013, 02:52:39 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.

All he has to do is sign a message using the private key for 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Kyt Dotson on October 16, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
Oh, I think that if Satoshi had been identified there'd be a lot more buzz around it already. His legend is nothing short of full-on celebrity status in this community and with popularity rising in the media evidence of such would be a huge scoop.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: jarhed on October 16, 2013, 03:21:47 AM
George Bush is Satoshi.
I thought we already settled that.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Nagle on October 16, 2013, 03:28:23 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.

All he has to do is sign a message using the private key for 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
Somebody has the first few million Bitcoins. They never show up in trading. When those go up for sale, we will know who Satoshi is.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 03:29:43 AM

I BRACKET ruid =H.D Moore - no link to bitcoin
I CODE END ruid = Dustin Trammell - helped satoshi, GavinA and others

the other way round, check your first replay. Will get back tomorow


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 03:31:56 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.

All he has to do is sign a message using the private key for 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
Somebody has the first few million Bitcoins. They never show up in trading. When those go up for sale, we will know who Satoshi is.
he did cash out some in 2011


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Leehoya on October 16, 2013, 03:37:22 AM
No solid proof= Not satoshi


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Kyt Dotson on October 16, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
George Bush is Satoshi.
I thought we already settled that.

Nonsense. George Takei is Satoshi and that's the story I'm sticking with.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: bbit on October 16, 2013, 04:07:22 AM
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: dustintrammell on October 16, 2013, 06:24:53 AM
Satoshi: H. D. Moore  a.k.a  "I}ruid"  (I end real user identification)

Incorrect.  I am not H D Moore (:


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: dustintrammell on October 16, 2013, 06:28:18 AM
|}ruid is Dustin trammell

Dustin D. Trammell, thanks (:

secondly H.D moore is I)ruid not I}ruid ... check your 'blast from the past link http://druid.caughq.org/ it clearly shows a bracket ) not code-end }

so here  goes again
I BRACKET ruid =H.D Moore - no link to bitcoin
I CODE END ruid = Dustin Trammell - helped satoshi, GavinA and others

Incorrect.  I am both I)ruid and I}ruid.  I)ruid is the correct spelling.  I use the alternate I}ruid spelling on IRC due to the IRC protocol not allowing the close-parenthesis character ")" to be used in nicknames.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: greyhawk on October 16, 2013, 07:30:52 AM
George Bush is Satoshi.
I thought we already settled that.

Nonsense. George Takei is Satoshi and that's the story I'm sticking with.

Oh, myyyy.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: gmaxwell on October 16, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.
Exactly... and to distract from understanding Bitcoin for what it is and isn't— whatever it's creators motivations were Bitcoin is an open and transparent artifact, I feel that we've been blessed beyond belief that when we argue about Bitcoin those arguments can be settled simply by the fact of what it is and without endless appeals to authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome) and speculation about its creators intentions. Bitcoin is what Bitcoin does. Fixing on its creation sullies it.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: balanghai on October 16, 2013, 09:20:26 AM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.
Exactly... and to distract from understanding Bitcoin for what it is and isn't— whatever it's creators motivations were Bitcoin is an open and transparent artifact, I feel that we've been blessed beyond belief that when we argue about Bitcoin those arguments can be settled simply by the fact of what it is and without endless appeals to authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome) and speculation about its creators intentions. Bitcoin is what Bitcoin does. Fixing on its creation sullies it.

This is somehow a work of someone who's job is doing things to people like David Petreaus. Discredit and conquer.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 09:26:15 AM
|}ruid is Dustin trammell

Dustin D. Trammell, thanks (:

secondly H.D moore is I)ruid not I}ruid ... check your 'blast from the past link http://druid.caughq.org/ it clearly shows a bracket ) not code-end }

so here  goes again
I BRACKET ruid =H.D Moore - no link to bitcoin
I CODE END ruid = Dustin Trammell - helped satoshi, GavinA and others

Incorrect.  I am both I)ruid and I}ruid.  I)ruid is the correct spelling.  I use the alternate I}ruid spelling on IRC due to the IRC protocol not allowing the close-parenthesis character ")" to be used in nicknames.
Same is true for HD Moore he is both I)riud and I}ruid and you most likely you know him personally as you have been a business partner at the LoneStarBitcoinExchange and other ventures. You also reside in Austin, Texas, should we call it right hand man.
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I did however work with him via email on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: p2pbucks on October 16, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
Satoshi identified by you ? now Wat? Keep on acting drama , dude  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: pand70 on October 16, 2013, 10:56:19 AM
Ppl are busy buying and selling these days... Noone has time for satoshi  :-[


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: allthingsluxury on October 16, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
It's that time of week again!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Birdy on October 16, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
Haruhi Suzumiya is Satoshi.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 16, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Incorrect.  I am both I)ruid and I}ruid.  I)ruid is the correct spelling.  I use the alternate I}ruid spelling on IRC due to the IRC protocol not allowing the close-parenthesis character ")" to be used in nicknames.
All it translates to is that you are his 5/8, right hand man, sidekick, business partner or whatever u like to call it. There are't to many people around who would be in any way associated with an address that received coins when the blockchain was less than 2 weeks old.
Dustin D. Trammell  Entrepreneur and Security Researcher,  HD Moore Information security researcher and programmer both reside in Austin Texas, both where active in the Austin Hackers Association way back in time and worked you with him via email (as u claim) on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.
Lets call a spade a spade, a white had hacker is Government friendly (Kahoots) and a hacker against the hacker.
Your profile registration date is interesting, June '11 is just the time when some of those coins where sold, u certainly weren't a newbie to bitcoin(talk) at that time.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 16, 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Satoshi identified: "insert name of person who is really good at computing here"

// logicfail


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: greyhawk on October 16, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
Satoshi identified: "insert name of person who is really good at computing here"

OMG, the Woz is Satoshi?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: bitjoint on October 16, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
OMGz! Satoshi identified! here's the proof!
























































http://i44.tinypic.com/1sgygj.png


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 16, 2013, 06:52:51 PM

OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: franky1 on October 16, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: vpitcher07 on October 16, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: bitcoinstarter on October 16, 2013, 08:31:56 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)

...And I bought your coins!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: zeetubes on October 16, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
Are you saying that Al Gore didn't invent bitcoins?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on October 16, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)

...And I bought your coins!
Too bad, I executed a MITM attack and now all your coins are belong to me!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: dustintrammell on October 17, 2013, 01:17:15 AM
Same is true for HD Moore he is both I)riud and I}ruid and you most likely you know him personally as you have been a business partner at the LoneStarBitcoinExchange and other ventures. You also reside in Austin, Texas, should we call it right hand man.

Still incorrect.  HD and I are not the same person.  HD does not use an alias as far as I'm aware.  I do know him though, we both live in Austin and have worked together in the past (:


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: dustintrammell on October 17, 2013, 01:22:56 AM
All it translates to is that you are his 5/8, right hand man, sidekick, business partner or whatever u like to call it. There are't to many people around who would be in any way associated with an address that received coins when the blockchain was less than 2 weeks old.

So what makes you think the he would be any more likely to be around and associated with it more than I? (:

Dustin D. Trammell  Entrepreneur and Security Researcher,  HD Moore Information security researcher and programmer both reside in Austin Texas, both where active in the Austin Hackers Association way back in time and worked you with him via email (as u claim) on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.

HD, Tod Beardsley, and I all co-founded AHA! (the Austin Hackers Association) many years ago.  All three of us still attend the monthly meetings.

I'm sure I still have the emails between Satoshi and I around somewhere, perhaps I'll write a blog post about them someday...

Lets call a spade a spade, a white had hacker is Government friendly (Kahoots) and a hacker against the hacker.
Your profile registration date is interesting, June '11 is just the time when some of those coins where sold, u certainly weren't a newbie to bitcoin(talk) at that time.

You seem to know an awful lot about me and my Internet habits...  Such an authority! (:



Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: razorfishsl on October 17, 2013, 01:35:52 AM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.
LOL what if it's actually Josh or Yifu  :-\

Highly unlikely..

Like the high jump there is a certain bar height that is needed for the Olympics , fortunately people with broken poles would not qualify.



Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 17, 2013, 06:07:11 AM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)

...And I bought your coins!
Too bad, I executed a MITM attack and now all your coins are belong to me!

Too bad that my brainwallet is encrypted. ;)


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on October 17, 2013, 06:58:49 AM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.

It will be like claiming that the Pthagorean theorum is not sound because Pthagoreus slept with whores.

Pythagoras slept with whores? That's why the walls of my house keep falling in!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Elwar on October 17, 2013, 07:19:50 AM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.

It will be like claiming that the Pthagorean theorum is not sound because Pthagoreus slept with whores.

Pythagoras slept with whores? That's why the walls of my house keep falling in!

Yes, I avoid using any angles because of that.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 17, 2013, 02:40:47 PM
  HD does not use an alias as far as I'm aware.  I do know him though, we both live in Austin and have worked together in the past (:
Thats a good one, a hacker who does not have an alias. You are doing a great job to discredit bitcoin, keep it up.

Quote
You seem to know an awful lot about me and my Internet habits...  Such an authority! (:
Yep, clicked on two official web sides to check it all out. Oh no, now the government knows everything about me, oh hang on


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manoamano on October 17, 2013, 03:30:40 PM
satoshi will never will identified.
It is the main aspect of btc: anonymity...


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: greyhawk on October 17, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)

...And I bought your coins!
Too bad, I executed a MITM attack and now all your coins are belong to me!

Too bad that my brainwallet is encrypted. ;)

is your digital media write protected?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: freethink2013 on October 17, 2013, 03:34:39 PM
Incorrect.  I am both I)ruid and I}ruid.  I)ruid is the correct spelling.  I use the alternate I}ruid spelling on IRC due to the IRC protocol not allowing the close-parenthesis character ")" to be used in nicknames.
All it translates to is that you are his 5/8, right hand man, sidekick, business partner or whatever u like to call it. There are't to many people around who would be in any way associated with an address that received coins when the blockchain was less than 2 weeks old.
Dustin D. Trammell  Entrepreneur and Security Researcher,  HD Moore Information security researcher and programmer both reside in Austin Texas, both where active in the Austin Hackers Association way back in time and worked you with him via email (as u claim) on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.
Lets call a spade a spade, a white had hacker is Government friendly (Kahoots) and a hacker against the hacker.
Your profile registration date is interesting, June '11 is just the time when some of those coins where sold, u certainly weren't a newbie to bitcoin(talk) at that time.

plenty of white hats that don't work for govt and never will. plenty wear both hats or grey hats or change hats etc.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 17, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.

time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150

Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)

So I just sold all my coin for nothing? Aw shucks....
(/sarcasm)

...And I bought your coins!
Too bad, I executed a MITM attack and now all your coins are belong to me!

Too bad that my brainwallet is encrypted. ;)

is your digital media write protected?

Damnit, my safety plan has been foiled again! Curse you hacker!


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: kokjo on October 17, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
There is a equal chance of anyone to but Satoshi, therefor the chance must be 50% each.
Now, if someone somewhere forms a group of 3 people, there is a chance of 150% that Satoshi is included in this group. As groups can be formed in many ways, there must for every person on this earth be at least 2 groups of 3 people that only have one person in common, this people must surely then be Satoshi, and as a consequence everyone and nobody is Satoshi at the same time.


(infallible logic, for the win!)


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Anon136 on October 17, 2013, 08:19:27 PM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.
Exactly... and to distract from understanding Bitcoin for what it is and isn't— whatever it's creators motivations were Bitcoin is an open and transparent artifact, I feel that we've been blessed beyond belief that when we argue about Bitcoin those arguments can be settled simply by the fact of what it is and without endless appeals to authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome) and speculation about its creators intentions. Bitcoin is what Bitcoin does. Fixing on its creation sullies it.

exactly! as an example look at how quickly snowdens revelations turned into stories about snowden and not about his revelations.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 18, 2013, 08:51:08 AM
Proof?
I updated OP


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: dmartig on October 18, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
satoshi was born in kenya but has a birth certificate from hawaii


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: inform on October 18, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
this is super news


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: PaducahBTC on October 18, 2013, 04:41:29 PM
Guys guys guys. Guys.

Guys.

I'm Satoshi.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: manfred on October 19, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
this is super news
depends which side your one


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: RenegadeMind on October 19, 2013, 04:16:09 PM
The only reason to identify Satoshi is to use his humanity to discredit Bitcoin.

It will be like claiming that the Pthagorean theorum is not sound because Pthagoreus slept with whores.

Yeah, well, he was only an asshole if he paid in fiat, and everyone knows Pythagoras used bitcoin. Err... Buttcoin... umm... something like that anyways... :D


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Lohoris on October 19, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
I think at this point, even if the real Satoshi came forward with proof of who they are no one would believe them.

All he has to do is sign a message using the private key for 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
Or someone who somehow stole his private key.

I agree, we would never believe him.
And that's good, it means his plan is working.
Assuming this was his plan.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: jbreher on October 19, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
I read your new OP.  Thanks.  I needed a good belly laugh today.

I've not yet read the updated OP. But I've already been treated to a good belly laugh, courtesy of dmartig:

Quote from: dmartig
satoshi was born in kenya but has a birth certificate from hawaii


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: LittleD on October 19, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
George Bush is Satoshi.
I thought we already settled that.


PROOF?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Kokomoka on October 20, 2013, 02:39:21 AM
In all seriousness though, do you thing Satoshi will ever reveal [him/her/them] self?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Lotus on October 20, 2013, 02:45:53 AM
Why do you even assume Satoshi is still alive?


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: bbit on October 20, 2013, 03:49:07 AM
Why do you even assume Satoshi is still alive?

He isn't he died in the Japan Tsunami :(


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Loozik on October 20, 2013, 06:48:47 PM

Not a proof, but if you play with ''satoshi nakamoto'' letters you arrive at ''so a man took a shit'' phrase (discovered by someone in another thread).

This phrase matches Bush's mentality.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: Raize on October 23, 2013, 01:51:44 PM
Why was my comment deleted from this thread? I didn't identify who Satoshi was at all, all I did was give him helpful info in his quest...


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: unequal on November 15, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
we can all agree that there is a >0% chance that one/all three members of AHA are Satoshi. If Satoshi did not want to be identified he wouldn't narrow things down by using such a name that implies he is of some Japanese descent.

I once worked on a project with two others and although the details of the project are relevant, we had our individual alias's and a 3-in-one name that we all created. We pretty much wanted a mysterious public figure at the top to create an allure type. It worked very well.

Between the 4 of them, 1 has 50% of the coins, (The head figure), the rest split up evenly a smaller portion, the other 50% of the combined total. This allows the three to be major influences and spokespeople for the currency yet maintain a much higher power then it appears. The odds of this is still very slim, but seems like something I would have done to gain more out of the whole technology/currency. They are all smart enough that we can assume they can pull this off. 1, 2, or all 3 of them are more likely to be Satoshi then anyone else on the planet in my opinion. Yet these chances may still be <1%, 0.01%, etc.

Who cares though, I think the anonymity is best for the currency to succeed.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: beetcoin on November 15, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
why does everyone want to expose satoshi so much? if you respect him for being the founder of bitcoins, of which you probably have benefited from financially, why would you go against his obvious wish.. and try to expose him?

i for one wouldn't waste my time on trying to reveal him. i mean, if you were even successful, what would be the point? how would that change anything for the better?

satoshi, in the end, had a vested interest in being the founder of bitcoin... but that doesn't matter, i appreciate his contributions. and by honoring that, i think everybody should just lay off.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, now what?
Post by: lucaspm98 on November 15, 2013, 07:48:01 PM
Why do you even assume Satoshi is still alive?
He is immortal.  ;)


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 15, 2013, 08:03:30 PM
Satoshi is RuPaul. I have proof. Have you ever seen them appear together anywhere? I thought not! They can't because they are the same person. Obviously Satoshi must be RuPaul.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: mobile on November 15, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
Cmon Satoshi has to be a Pseudonym for a group of developers.   


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: Rival on November 15, 2013, 08:14:08 PM
If I was Satoshi I would be hiding.

This planet is not all that friendly to those who rock the boat too much.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified?
Post by: uMMcQxCWELNzkt on November 15, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Satoshi is an experimental self aware artificial intelligence program that has integrated itself into the blockchain.


Title: Re: Satoshi identified, but its not HD Moore!
Post by: knightcoin on July 18, 2014, 02:10:54 PM
HDM, still looking for some old accountant papers/receipt made to hacker foundation specifically donations made by PayPal ...

Sorry list it's older than genesis block (03/Jan/2009 - 29AB5F49 - timestamp);

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