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Hi guys. Another sad story again to me. Ive encountered again a bounty manager which only calculate our stakes and sent to the ICO and he/she dont have obligation if the participants dont get anything from it.

Is it great that he/she finished the calculation or failure because the participants dont get anything from the project?
How do we rate them? I know that the bounty managers get lots of merits if the project success and all participants get their shares.
How about those bounty manager only doing calculations and no obligations on the participants after he submit the spreadsheets.

How do we take them out from here? Can we gave then negative merits, for others avoid those bounty managers?

Theres a lot of bounty managers that have a great legacy here like Sir Yahoo and others but it was sad that because I am only jr.member, I can't participate for their under projects. :( how unfortunate I am.

So far I don't encountered any of them. Also, all my project that i've been joined are still ongoing. So, I don't know either if the bounty managers of those project are runner( referring to someone who run and irresponsible). Well, we can't banned them. Just be thankful if get your shares and curse them if you wont.hahaha

Get there information and go to someone who knows how to witch crafting and wish them to die slowly and painfully .. hahah

Here is a thread link of DenysM that may help or guide you in selecting projects based on the bounty managers.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3034728

It is unfortunate that there are managers who are quite irresponsible in doing their job. But this is just one of the many risks that we need to face in this system. Everything will always fall with us making that final decision. So be vigilant.

Don't blame the bounty manager if the project was a scam because he already did his part and I think even him wasn't paid. But if the bounty manager didn't do his job like proper counting of stakes then he needs to be punish. Report it to DT to provide a proper action.

I would say this campaign maneger is not responsible enough to his work. Even if you dont like(its not you dream)the work one should very responsible of the Technical if you dont get an information why you did nit get anything you will worry and you will ask, so if than it was answered it good if its in the middle of ICO. As you said in your topic the situation if I were in yhe position I get mad and worried because you put efforts on it even campaign maneger does not tell you will get mad but if campaign manger spokes of like puting the reason in the spreadsheet the good to know.

And also I never heard of a certain action like you example so if it happened you will get mad right but in must common situations there are just a weekly distribution stakes and in certain some campaign manegers dont tell why like

1. You did not meet  the numbers(20 post) due to only 15 constructive post

Some just dont tell but In my opinion they should inform us if something like that happend and.... there is no negative merit you can just report him and give negative trust just put the reason.

Maybe report him to btt forum staff or admin ? But I think they are not scam, they do their job but they not taking responsible on all participants of bounty including you. Sad life my friend. But that was reality. Even you give your effort to the fullest but the one who manage you all are the one whose running. Sad.

Yes this is i agree since bounty manager is not from the project and they do their part as manager.
Good manager is the people who manage the campaign without any blame from the participant about stake.

we don't know either if the bounty manager had been paid or not in this scenario. But as a bounty manager? how you handle this ? you are the bounty manager ? you don't do anything for your under ?

And Sir, can I ask you if the bounty manager is approachable? Did he answer all the questions you guys asking for ? Is he or she active ?

Look for someone that is online a lot and doesn't have a temper.  You want a manager that will not take long breaks and leave the participants worried.  Forum rank isn't really indicative of a good manager.

To tell you the truth most of bounty managers doesn't care about the bounty and they just want to fill their tables right and get a reward. I think for at least half of them it's a necessary skill - to ignore all users and just pretend you're busy.

little tips for you, follow all the rules then you will get what you want.
most people are not paid while following a campaign for breaking the rules and they are not aware of it

yeah. I encountered one. He always filled up the spreadsheet and always reminding us how to do our task and spread the name of the project. After the ICO end, he changes :( and he didnt answer us why he didn't responsible if we're not being paid. As long as he update the spreadsheet and send to the project itself. :(

I met someone like this but i don't know if that bounty manager is trustworthy ^_^
So far, he was handling one of the project I joined. So i will check if that man was ok to trust

All I ask from bounty managers is that they are able to count correctly and above all, that the answer the bounty hunters adequately. Most Bounty managers are unresponsive and tend to be nasty with hunters.

Was at the same situation. Maybe they should split up those who is just counting and those who is responsible for the comfort of bounty hunters. So the second category should been paid twice more.

I feel the same way, the forum is like closing the opportunity for a new rank. Regarding the duties of managers, I have that experience. Once the stake is calculated the manager has no responsibility with the payment. The manager hands the spreadsheet to dev for review. only that.
Bounty hunter can not blame the manager in this case.

At least your bounty manager updates the spreadsheet. I had an experience with a bounty manager that totally ignores the spreadsheet. And would you believe that it was only the first week of campaign? He left all the signature campaigners in air. He even posted in the rules that if you do post a certain number of posts much more than the required, the campaigner will doubled his/her stakes. And here i am eagerly doing and doubling my posts, hoping to get that reward. But then after, the manager just disappeared. That kind of bounty manager should not be handling a campaign. Totally irresponsible and very much undependable of him. We campaigners are doing our very best for the promised tokens. We deserve to be paid rightfully.

Yeah, I agreed with that. If bounty manager only does count the stakes and after that submit to the project, it will be disaster to the bounty hunters like us because we cant guaranteed the promised reward token for our effort. Bounty manager was the one who check if we are qualified for the said bounty. So that, he was the one who should be the middle man for company and hunters. Am I right ?

bounty hunters ( report ) -> bounty manager (report the work of bounty hunters) -> project
project ( token will be given to the bm for all computed stakes in the spreadsheet ) -> bounty manager (the one to distribute the said promised token shared) -> bounty hunters (received of promised token)

I think so. The bounty manager should be the middle man. He/she was the one who evaluate our work. Like in the construction, we are the laborer, bounty manager ( engineer ) and the project ( the one who hired engineer). We work for the bounty manager who hired us and the project will give the bounty manager ( budget ), so he should be the one who will distributed in the end of the work.

well i already encountered manager that didnt pay our stakes. but i dont know what to do. how to trace that manager. i just be patient because i dont know what to do when i'm on that situation.
somebody told me that, before you enter in ome campaign, just make sure you already checked the background of the campaign manager, and check on the numbers of his/her green/red trust..

We have a patience in that but what if the bounty manager tell the team that he had finished the spreadsheet work and sent to the project. And he was not responsible for not being paid of the bounty hunters. What do you feel with that ? :(

I checked some bounty managers but I have a bounty manager that was very kind and responsible yet he was have -2 trust :(
How sad that the person with that kind of personality have a negative trust.

you dont need to rate them or what, if that really happen to you then there must be others who experienced that too,
i know and u know it that you will not join his.her bounty again and so others will do and soon even they make bounties noone will be interested with them.
SO let them be and just post reports on thread for the others to be aware too.

How are you sure that these managers doesnt get involved with shady businesses? i have participated most of the solid campaigns bu these managers thru social media,few of them suspectedly allgedly are involved with the shady businesses,because they should be doing their job to be sure that people behind a cetrain ICO project are real and not using fake profiles?

Some of these managers are repeatedly accepting scam projects
What a shame why they are doing that ? maybe because they are part of these scam projects.

Well said this statement mate I really agreed on this if you ask me how to rate him. 101% I believed that my manager now sir yahoo was a great manager ever here on the forum. Either he manages bounty and signature he is very responsible and he cares about the participants if did not get token from the bounty campaign.

Yeah, I had also noticed that mostly bounty managers did not do their jobs or sometimes inactive in the forum aside from those good managers.

yeah. you can't rely with the trust status of the person. because if you get your tokens, means that person was trustworthy. Yet he get negative maybe because of the trading ? Not because of being scammer in the bounty.

I don't think that we should disrespect them for 1-2 failure projects as ICO is a risky thing,no one know what will be in the end, moreover they also receive tokens as a reward, so they evaluate projects before get in. But if manager has 5-10+ strange projects in portfolio, so this is a big redflag for me and for the next time I would better miss his bounty.

These managers are doing shady things why? because they are accepting projects which has potentially scams because if they are doing their duty to inspect or to know people behind these projects these people wont abandon investors,especially when these managers know their real identity or they have known each other for a while so these people wont runaway just like what other scam ICOs are doing.

its either they are getting or they are part of the scam projects!

The manager can perfectly cope with his work, he will fulfill his obligations in time, which are assigned to him. But, for example, blame it for non-payment of tokens, a fraudulent project is not worth it. It does not depend on him.

If you want to hear how much the bounty manager's services cost, then I think that this is a percentage of the bounty pool, that's all, and you can find out the percentage by writing to some manager, because it seems to me that there is a system of discounts for projects

Experience will teach you whom you should follow,because different managers has different personalities,there are dumb ones or dickheads that are good paying managers there are too good managers but will pay you less,doesnt matter which one you are joining to alteast you will have bigger chance of getting paid when you are following these good managers.

Why not blame him ? It was not that blaming him, as I read the post. The bounty manager just like run away, just doing finished the spreadsheet, submit and nothing responsible. Is it the bounty manager are the middle man of bounty hunters and ICO. Am I wrong ? Because if who hired / accept / evaluate the work of the bounty hunters ? is it the ICO alone ? or the bounty manager first ?

Agree with this one, charged this one as a learning experiencing in the world of bounties. As long as you get paid by the work you do, you would be grateful but if you didn't get paid. Set aside, and don't apply to that person again. Just do what the bounty rule it says and join again. Don't use this as your downs. Use it as learning stage.

It seems to me that project managers do not distribute tokens. They only fill in the spreadsheets and send them to the company. The manager is not responsible for the distribution of tokens, so you do not need to blame him if you are cheated.

Oh, so what should be the part of the bounty manager ? Just fill up the spreadsheets ? He / She wasn't the one to approved the applications of the bounty hunter ? The one who evaluate the works of the bounty hunters ? So, the job of bounty is that easy ? Just fill up ? If that was the case, bounty hunters can add stakes to all of bounty hunters in the spreadsheet even not looking to their work then ? Because he wasn't the responsible for the distribution of the tokens.

I myself have experienced things like that after bounty to the end and get paid but after the developer distribution disappears and does not continue the project, then whether the wrong manager is certainly not because the manager only collects participants to follow the project he holds, the project is a scam or not managers will also not know because the fraud project will not show its fraud at the beginning.
And for your case it's pure error from the project developer because the manager has tried to calculate the shares of all the participants and handed over to Dev to receive the token promised to him.

Best thing to do is to try to join every campaigns of these managers because that way you will find out whom will be a good payiing manager.Doesnt want to say specific but some of these people are getting involved into scam projects then will eventually runaway from the investors and bounty hunters which is sucks because these investors are losing bunch of money and you cant do anything about it.

I've run into a lot of bad bounty managers with big tempers and who will attempt to shorten your stakes when distribution time comes.

You do mean that manager doesn't put up stakes for your weeks work in the spreadsheet? I have encountered manager which do distribute stakes in the end of the campaign.This is unusual since we do normally see weekly updates on most managers but you cant do anything since this is their own way on handling people. Calculating stakes in the end of campaign isn't bad at all as long calculations are exact. Managers job would calculate stakes and sent out ss to the team and from there on he doesn't have the power or rights if people would be get paid or not which it isn't appropriate for them to be blamed of when the bounty campaign didn't paid you out.

Choose only good paying managers,which are updating the spreadsheet in weekly basis because most of these managers are too lazy to update the sheet.Doesnt matter how many participants they are going to check they can hire as many people they can to check the stakes of the bounty hunters.I am not joining any of these managers whom who cant follow their own rules.

As for the bounty of managers and campaigns in general, here is a https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B4sMp4rDeYjPn3Lkbxn6Ot5KLQFERPXloIl5lUbTVBg/edit#gid=691200443 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B4sMp4rDeYjPn3Lkbxn6Ot5KLQFERPXloIl5lUbTVBg/edit#gid=691200443) of current and past bounties. I do not know exactly how the ranking of the managers was drawn up directly, but everything is handy and it's updated often

Yahoo is indeed a good manager,you cant see him not updating the spreadsheet from time to time he is really doing his job as the manager not unlike to most of the managers who are hard headed and feeling dominant to the hunters.Choose only good paying managers so your effort would be paid very well and avoid those lazy bounty managers.

Thisis absolutely nonsence!! How could possibly a hired manager be responsible for the team not paying bounty shares? Bounty manager is a hired employee, and he does his work. A manager has nothing in common with the funds distibution, he gets paid for answering questions and calculating stakes, so don't blame them of what they are not responsible for.

You will know whos manager would be better if you have joined these managers for months,i have been here and few of these are doing shady things they are different to each other,when theres money there will always be corruption this is how the forum works some campaign managers will get your stakes,or they will give you less,or they will accept scam projects that allegedly they are involved with so choose good managers that wont fool you.

Some of the managers are still accepting potential scam projects they might be part of these scams too,that is why you need to choose a manager which are surely reviewing these projects before getting accepted by his team because it could be the reason why you wont get stakes because they are stealing people's money then will disappear into thin air.

You cannot give theme negative trust,but you can identify which ones are good and bad managers i dont usually join managers which has issues from the past,manager which are accepting scam projects or not reviewing these ICOs before accepting because morelikely they are accepting these projects because they will get paid very well with these scams.

I didn't encountered anyone yet. But seemly that was a bad situation to have a hot temper bounty manager who will always angry.

Bounty managers should be fully aware about the people behind these ICOs because if they arent sure about the credibility of the people why would they accept these projects? one thing in my mind because they are part of these scam projects in the community i have experienced two scam projects from the same manager that is why i am not joining these managers.

yahoo is indeed a goo manager better than others,he is doing his job very well updating the stakes in time and he is more polite than those bastard crazy mangers who are going to remove you from the campaign without any valid reasons,some of the campaigns are accepting scam projects because they are part of these projects.

I meanwhile I only lead different companies and only met managers who do not answer, but the couple are all very good-natured and good.

Thats the manager's fault because he could contact the developers and changed what it is needed to be changed.Bounty managers wont have red trust not unless default trust users are going to give reds.As far as i know these managers are doing shady businesses,with these scammers because they are accepting projects who are potential scams.

I really hate these managers that arent doing research before accepting these scam projects,doesnt do any good to the bounty hunters and ended up not getting paid,this is the reason i am sticking with the campaigns of my prefered bounty managers whoa re paying good amount of bounties compare to those managers that are getting into shady business.

Do not join shit bounty managers i have noticed some of these manager area collaborating with the ICO scammers so that they will get a lot of money from noob investors.these managers can easily deny it but the thing is they should be reviewing the team's background and identity before accepting these projects.

Bounty managers are not under any obligation to pay you, unless they're advertising their own product.

They are running a service, an ICO or brand hires them to manage their bounty campaign, calculate the number of stakes everyone is due etc.

After that point, their responsibility ends, they don't have control over token distribution, they're not CEO of the ICO. Why would you think it would be their fault if you're not paid (unless they miscalculated stakes).

Bounty manager's duty is to check those ICO team if they are legit or real people,doesnt want to be rude but some of these shit bounty managers are accepting scam projects because they are part of it,accepting it and promoting with their accounts will attract a lot of investors leaving newbies investors nothing but shame,that is why we need to choose whos manager arent going to fuck our asses.

Haven't encountered an epic fail bounty manager. Usually, the developers decide whether to pause or stop the ICO. The bounty managers' responsibility only is to make sure that the bounty he is about to endorse is legitimate and is credible because his reputation also relies on the bounty campaigns he will handle.

You cannot do something about it,that is why i am following some good bounty manager and avoid douchebag managers whoa re lazy to do their job.Some of these managerd are getting involved with the ICO scams why? Because they are accepting these projects without proper researching or they are involved with it,making investors fools and those bounty hunters that wont get paid.Some greedy managers will try to get the stakes allocated to the hunters they are very corrupted ! But you will find good ones like yahoo,wapwinter which support is awesome better than others.

Thank you for the tip sir, I think yes most of the reason not receiving stakes is because of breaking the rules. Either intentional or not being aware of it. Appreciate your tip.

This is what I want to see Cheesy  Thank you for the link shared will be useful to me, complete and almost all the best manager is on that list.

I've encountered this one but after the ICO, we get paid. It was okay even the bounty manager are strict into the policy or rules of the bounty as long as they are responsible for their people. That they will make sure that their bounty hunters get paid because they do what the rules says.

Reporting them is the best option as long as you have an evidence provided for your accusation. I've seen some members posted at Reputation child boards similar to your concern. Maybe you should post your queries there and let those DT members take an action about it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Agreed with this. In the first place, the bounty manager was the one who will check if the project he will manage is scam or not. Also, he was the one who will hire / accept bounty hunters for the campaign. So it means, bounty hunters was under to him. So, he / she should be responsible on them.

Thank you so much. It was very helpful.

i think you can contact directly with the project's manager to complain about the bounty manager. if this is a good dev team, they will solve your problem

Avoid these shit managers and you will be fine,you cant give them negative trust,so move on better to to everything you can to complete your task, most of these people doesnt care about the hunters because they are only for the money.I hate tokensuite for accepting scam ICO projects i dont know if they are part of these scams or they just dont research before accepting scams.

It's a simple concept, it really annoys me when I see idiots complaining at bounty managers when the ICO turns out to be a scam.

Their job is to promote and manage the bounty, not to pay out the stakes.

It is your job to identify a campaign that wont screw you over.

This would possible but not possible to get paid because the one who decide your claim was the project manager itself. He can deny your stakes if he want it. This is bad. sad story pal.

As a matter of fact, it is absolutely uncalled for, for people to hustle days and nights to participate in a bounty campaign and later didn't get what is entitled to him or her. I think there should be a kind of agent in this same community that would be policing this kind of situation. It's not easy at all and we are not here to work in vain. The bounty manager need to follow up their works in accordance and make sure everyone gets their own shares too. Thanks

He (campaign manager) can't deny if you have valid proofs you should be get paid for your work. You can even create scam accusation if you think the manager is scamming you or simmilar like that.

since there is this merit system, some bounty campaigns don't allow jr.member to join and that is the reality. if indeed because of the new rules about merit, I think the bounty manager is not wrong because he has done his job.

Yeah, Because of the new rules. Some are buying merits and some using their other account to boost their new account.

Agreed. Bounty manager suppose the one who secured that the bounty hunter would paid.

Bounty managers are responsible in every camapign they are running from the beginning to the end. They must see that all their participants were paid and compensated for their works. Rating them is very difficult because you dont have access to it. Just choose the right manager when participating.

the great bounty manager in my opinion is BM who can accepct complaint , and then at the end of that bounty he/she give everyone time to complain about their stacking
and do payment correctly

They need to do their job in order to get positive feedback on their campaigns. Most campaign managers know how to do their job.

hi friends ,, many managers who do not have legality well. therefore they are not responsible if we do not get paid.
but as long as I am a bounty hunter, I have found an organization that gathers various managers and helps the ICO project well.
and to this day I still believe all the projects under it.
the organization is Amazix.
You can learn more
https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@amazix
https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@amazix_bounties

and if we find a poor manager, I think we can report it to the forum moderator so that the moderator will judge objectively, and can give negative trust to the menager.

I hope to met like this one Sir. A bounty manager who can listen to our complain and do his part / responsibility to his bounty hunters.

Thank you so much for this info. I will gladly to check this telegram link and join it. I hope to met someone who are eligible as the title of bounty manager.

Many trusted campaign managers, we can easily know them by way of their long service experience as a campaign manager. We can ask those people that already been working here for a long time, like for example if you have a friend out there that really knows about campaign, just ask them on which campaign managers are really good. Because sometimes, there are campaigns that having good promises but in the end it will disappear without any distributions of salaries.

That was a good reference for all bounty hunters to must ask first some veteran friend here in the community.

Great idea for the administration. Another issue is that you will have to make a separate rank for bounty managers. Then you could have a chart and an anti-chart for bounty managers. It would be convenient for the new bounty hunters

it serve better if there's a separate rank for bounty managers. At least, you can see their status if that manager is newbie or professional or scammer. Maybe an indication like bounty manager ( newbie ) like this. :)

The thing is that nobody will reply your chat / pm or email to the project. It was hard to commute to the project itself. So we all rely to the bounty manager to help us out regarding our payment.

You cannot blame the bounty manager if the project turns out to be a scam. Every bounty manager is different. As long as he/she did his/her job its fine with me. The job of the bounty /campaign is to promote the project and calculate the stakes for the bounty hunters. that is why before joining a campaign we have to research first.

I think you should research first before joining the campaign. but I check your profile most of you only work on reports for social media campaigns, even though you are using a signature. you should correct yourself whether you have done it according to the rules of the campaign, so think about it

Only DT members can do this, but if you feel that you are being deceived by the Bounty Manager to participate in the Bounty, you can report it. If you can verify everything you say, then of course someone will punish them. Negative trust. For such a bounty manager, you should expose them to let everyone know their names.

Managers should be evaluated from personal experience because each participant has his own view on a particular Manager and everyone can have different experience with them

There are limits to responsibility for project managers
In any case I chose a reliable project manager in most cases
You do not overlook studying the project yourself.

We have to rely on my own experience, sometimes even popular managers make mistakes, I participate in many companies and have my own raiting managers.

If the reason is negligence on his part., Then you can give him negative merits. As long as you can support your accusation.,then it would be fine. I've seen a.lot of managers having negative merits due to poor management of campaign.

Those bounty managers deserve to be in the reputation and scam section for scamming people and should be given a red trust for doing this to bounty hunters and should never get another job as a bounty manager, he should be considerate on the flight of his workers can you name those managers

They all have their own style.
The sad part is, some of them tend not to even care.
Most of them do theyre job and thats it. No consideration at all.
But some really earns respect frim hunters.
But i think while you spend your time here. Check them out, learn how they work. And think if they deserve your effort or time.

The manager who does not have responsibility deserves to be reported even given red trust. so naturally the next job he did not will gain trust again and what she did is just pointless. the selection of a qualified manager bounty has indeed become one of the important things to be able to determine whether the bounty will be paid as desired or not.

Come one, every manager MUST do his own research before he starts working with any project. Do you think it's ok to promote scam? I mean obvious scam, like fake teams or Ponzi scheme described in Whitepaper.
The problem is that most of the managers are paid in Fiat/ETH/BTC, not project's tokens, so they don't actually care about it's future.

Bounty Manager is a very important person. Without it, the normal functioning of the project is impossible and it seems to me that this is normal. For me, the main thing is his experience, and often it is unsuccessful

I am very annoyed when bounty managers do not answer questions. I want to know everything about the project and the bounty, why do they so often ignore my questions? I think it's not normal.

This forum is free for everyone so if you want to take them out, you just need to warn the public on how they manage the bounties that they have been running.

It is also a word from the bounty manager that from the beginning of their bounty, they are warning the people that they are only there to manage the campaign as they aren't part of the project itself. Watch those words so you'll be aware of what you are joining.

Just look at the last campaigns of this manager. If 70 percent of those ended successfully, people got their tokens and the coin is tradable on an exchange at least at the ICO price, it is a good bounty manager. But sometimes ICOs are opening their own Bitcointalk account to manage their bounties.