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Title: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 27, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
Some of the things I've been working on, is trying to bring bitcoin to a mainstream audience.  I'm trying to remove most of the technical jargon, by simply stating that bitcoin is a payment system & money rolled into one.  After I watched the passionate interview with Russell Brand, speaking of revolution because of failed government systems, I thought it was a good opportunity to write him an open letter.  The nice thing about bitcoin is that it doesn't matter what type of political affiliation you have, it will work for everyone.  For example: When Brand says he wants heavy taxation & massive redistribution of wealth.  Bitcoin doesn't care, it will remain free.  What are your thoughts on getting bitcoin mainstream?  Here's the letter:

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Dear Russell:

I just finished watching your interview with Jeremy Paxman, aside from Mr. Paxman being a trite individual, it was fantastic exchange of new ideas vs. old.  I'm sure you were expecting Sinead O'Conner, or Miley Cyrus to write you this open-air missive.  Alas, I'm going to underwhelm you, because my fame and fortune are nonexistent.  So, here it is, you get me, Michael, writing you in hopes to get your attention to some important issues, in which are pertinent to your revolutionary interview.

As you summarized in your interview, people that have any sense, realize that voting changes nothing. Voting is an occupation for the disillusioned, the elderly, and hopeful tyrants.  We all know that voting for a new master every four years, still doesn't make you free.  Even still, the capacity to vote on people's fundamental human rights is the antithesis of freedom.  Yet, this is the paradigm we live under, and are born into.  In the United States there are approximately 240,000,000 people who are of voting age.  In the 2012 elections, the total votes cast was approximately 130,000,000.  That's a deficit of 110,000,000 people.  It ends up around 65,000,000 people elect a supposed "leader" for the remaining 310,000,000.  Of those voting, only a small percentage actually know what & how the government works.  Although, they parrot the talking points like good citizens, as their smug partisan destroy lives.

Read the rest here:  https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/open-letter-to-russell-brand-coinaxis (https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/open-letter-to-russell-brand-coinaxis)


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Xyver on October 27, 2013, 06:34:20 PM
Well said. Now, I don't know about open letters, but have you sent it to him? Or do you just send him that link.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 27, 2013, 06:52:33 PM
Well said. Now, I don't know about open letters, but have you sent it to him? Or do you just send him that link.


I don't have his email address, so I sent it to his editor at the newstatesman (the site he's guest editor at), asking them to forward it onto him.  If anyone has a way to contact him, let me know.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: tom.hashemi on October 27, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
Some of the things I've been working on, is trying to bring bitcoin to a mainstream audience.  I'm trying to remove most of the technical jargon, by simply stating that bitcoin is a payment system & money rolled into one.  After I watched the passionate interview with Russell Brand, speaking of revolution because of failed government systems, I thought it was a good opportunity to write him an open letter.  The nice thing about bitcoin is that it doesn't matter what type of political affiliation you have, it will work for everyone.  For example: When Brand says he wants heavy taxation & massive redistribution of wealth.  Bitcoin doesn't care, it will remain free.  What are your thoughts on getting bitcoin mainstream?  Here's the letter:

Quote
Dear Russell:

I just finished watching your interview with Jeremy Paxman, aside from Mr. Paxman being a trite individual, it was fantastic exchange of new ideas vs. old.  I'm sure you were expecting Sinead O'Conner, or Miley Cyrus to write you this open-air missive.  Alas, I'm going to underwhelm you, because my fame and fortune are nonexistent.  So, here it is, you get me, Michael, writing you in hopes to get your attention to some important issues, in which are pertinent to your revolutionary interview.

As you summarized in your interview, people that have any sense, realize that voting changes nothing. Voting is an occupation for the disillusioned, the elderly, and hopeful tyrants.  We all know that voting for a new master every four years, still doesn't make you free.  Even still, the capacity to vote on people's fundamental human rights is the antithesis of freedom.  Yet, this is the paradigm we live under, and are born into.  In the United States there are approximately 240,000,000 people who are of voting age.  In the 2012 elections, the total votes cast was approximately 130,000,000.  That's a deficit of 110,000,000 people.  It ends up around 65,000,000 people elect a supposed "leader" for the remaining 310,000,000.  Of those voting, only a small percentage actually know what & how the government works.  Although, they parrot the talking points like good citizens, as their smug partisan destroy lives.

Read the rest here:  https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/open-letter-to-russell-brand-coinaxis

Why doesn't Russell Brand start this revolution by donating his multimillion pound fortune towards erasing wealth disparity?

Oh yeah, because he's a hypocritical moron.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 27, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
and if anyone has not watched the interview, here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 27, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
reminds me a little bit of bepe grillo in italy. he get ALOT of votes by the last elections (from 0 to maybe 25%  :o):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Sb9CXYUrQ

grillo would like bitcoin too i guess. hes an internet guy, maybe he already heard of it.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 27, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
Once converted, Russell can get his friend on board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9yNEkU5kU


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 27, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Once converted, Russell can get his friend on board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9yNEkU5kU

Ahhh, wouldn't that be fantastic if the Dalai Lama came out in full support of bitcoin?  Let the peaceful bitcoin revolution begin!


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Melbustus on October 27, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
ZeroHedge picking up your letter is a good start:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-25/open-letter-russell-brand

Well done.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: djalexr on October 27, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
good job my freind get this out there, brand is extremely popular in the UK amongst young people and if he ever even mentioned bitcoin, it would be great publicity

i think he has a twitter btw, could be worth trying that


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: No_2 on October 28, 2013, 01:26:17 AM
Never really stopped to listen to Russell Brand. I'm impressed.

Hope he reads the letter.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: chufchuf on October 28, 2013, 01:57:23 AM
Didn't this letter appear on Zerohedge?

I thought it was irony and parody of the far left and the far right. Brand had recently gone on Alex Jones programs, which was odd to say the least. Brand wants inflation and taxes, Jones thinks inflation and taxes are the big conspiracy. Bitcoin is all about capital contracts, whereas Brand is apparently all about social contracts. Both give themselves a holiness to their historical narrative that is easy to parody. So I assumed the letter was making fun of both.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 28, 2013, 03:53:31 AM
Anyone who wants more taxes, and believes it'll fix anything, lacks immensely in the knowledge of history and basic math.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: mel2000 on October 28, 2013, 04:18:06 AM
Anyone who wants more taxes, and believes it'll fix anything, lacks immensely in the knowledge of history and basic math.

Higher taxes are credited with helping California climb out of its financial quagmire.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 28, 2013, 04:40:10 AM
The beauty behind bitcoin is that it doesn't matter what Brand's political philosophy is.  What does matter, is if he supports/promotes bitcoin, he can bring it to his millions of adoring, non-technical fans.  


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Anon136 on October 28, 2013, 04:44:52 AM
bravo sir. you very neatly stepped around all the landmines.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: spooderman on October 28, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
Some of the things I've been working on, is trying to bring bitcoin to a mainstream audience.  I'm trying to remove most of the technical jargon, by simply stating that bitcoin is a payment system & money rolled into one.  After I watched the passionate interview with Russell Brand, speaking of revolution because of failed government systems, I thought it was a good opportunity to write him an open letter.  The nice thing about bitcoin is that it doesn't matter what type of political affiliation you have, it will work for everyone.  For example: When Brand says he wants heavy taxation & massive redistribution of wealth.  Bitcoin doesn't care, it will remain free.  What are your thoughts on getting bitcoin mainstream?  Here's the letter:

Quote
Dear Russell:

I just finished watching your interview with Jeremy Paxman, aside from Mr. Paxman being a trite individual, it was fantastic exchange of new ideas vs. old.  I'm sure you were expecting Sinead O'Conner, or Miley Cyrus to write you this open-air missive.  Alas, I'm going to underwhelm you, because my fame and fortune are nonexistent.  So, here it is, you get me, Michael, writing you in hopes to get your attention to some important issues, in which are pertinent to your revolutionary interview.

As you summarized in your interview, people that have any sense, realize that voting changes nothing. Voting is an occupation for the disillusioned, the elderly, and hopeful tyrants.  We all know that voting for a new master every four years, still doesn't make you free.  Even still, the capacity to vote on people's fundamental human rights is the antithesis of freedom.  Yet, this is the paradigm we live under, and are born into.  In the United States there are approximately 240,000,000 people who are of voting age.  In the 2012 elections, the total votes cast was approximately 130,000,000.  That's a deficit of 110,000,000 people.  It ends up around 65,000,000 people elect a supposed "leader" for the remaining 310,000,000.  Of those voting, only a small percentage actually know what & how the government works.  Although, they parrot the talking points like good citizens, as their smug partisan destroy lives.

Read the rest here:  https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/open-letter-to-russell-brand-coinaxis

Why doesn't Russell Brand start this revolution by donating his multimillion pound fortune towards erasing wealth disparity?

Oh yeah, because he's a hypocritical moron.

*sigh* everyone is.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: kik1977 on October 28, 2013, 12:57:37 PM
I saw your open letter this morning in LinkedIn, posted in the Bitcoin Group, hope it will make it to him!


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 28, 2013, 01:00:41 PM
Anyone who wants more taxes, and believes it'll fix anything, lacks immensely in the knowledge of history and basic math.

Higher taxes are credited with helping California climb out of its financial quagmire.

Going back to the basic math and history tenants of my post--the reason behind their bankruptcy, and why they'll be bankrupt again. And again. And again.

Not to mention no civilization in known history has ever permanently solved its financial woes by raising taxes. If you're having financial woes, it's likely because you're bleeding out due to unwise spending, counting the chickens before the eggs have hatched.

Typically in civilizations, continually increasing the financial burden of the people leads to one of two conclusions: The eventual complete dissolving of the civilization, or civil war/emigration.



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 28, 2013, 03:08:29 PM
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Going back to the basic math and history tenants of my post--the reason behind their bankruptcy, and why they'll be bankrupt again. And again. And again.

Not to mention no civilization in known history has ever permanently solved its financial woes by raising taxes. If you're having financial woes, it's likely because you're bleeding out due to unwise spending, counting the chickens before the eggs have hatched.

Typically in civilizations, continually increasing the financial burden of the people leads to one of two conclusions: The eventual complete dissolving of the civilization, or civil war/emigration.

Good point.  The spending binge doesn't just end at the US Federal level, the states jumped on the free-money bandwagon too.  The state I'm in, increased it's spending by 10X over the last decade.  It's far from the 3-5% growth that you'd expect.  The breakdown of the system will not be pretty. 



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Anon136 on October 28, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
this is relevant i think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STUU3M4U3Y


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 28, 2013, 09:38:36 PM
this is relevant i think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STUU3M4U3Y

Definitely relevant, thank you for sharing.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: adnanabbas on October 28, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
Im not really a fan of Brand, but in that interview he made me think, got to give it to him, he had some good points ;D


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: steeev on October 28, 2013, 10:09:42 PM
While Brand may be useful for exposure, anyone from the UK will be as aware as i am that for all his spiritual schtick, Brand is as much of a middle class stage-school lefty as he ever was... his courting of David Icke more recently gives him a 'currency' for his career... one which has seen him go from being a failed tv actor, to an all front, not funny 'comedian', to his present position as a failed 'movie star'...
This might read as harsh, or whatever, but this guys vacuous and trite take on the world is always peppered with 6th form schoolboy 'redistribution' , 'the govt must take care of people' stuff ... with Brand you'll get some publicity, but cheesy (to say the least) association...


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: steeev on October 28, 2013, 10:17:41 PM
oh, and i just watched the Max Keiser shout out to Brand... it's worth mentioning that Keiser seems to have a curious fondness for one George Galloway.. and the less said about him, the better... maybe Max should be a bit more discerning....


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: BitDreams on October 28, 2013, 10:48:04 PM
Parallel thinking! When I saw that video I instantly went to Mr Brand's web site and linked him the article from Bitcoin Magazine's article by V Buterin, Decentralized Autonomous Corporation.

I would wager that Russell has dozens if not hundreds of email introducing him to Bitcoin by now. Let's kick back and see how he responds. If you happen across this Russell - when you complain and someone delivers you a solution to your complaints, either start solving or stop complaining. What's it going to be?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 04:40:05 AM
The first step is removing the jargon, the next step is creating systems where non-technical minds can earn coins. (ex: Devcoin, which you can earn for writing on Devtome, and literally 90% of the blocks generated go straight to the writers as the miners mine them, not a pre-mine coin... Why are there not more coins like this?) More people would come to Bitcoin if they could get them.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 29, 2013, 12:51:08 PM
More people would use altcoins if it was as simple as any other transaction these days, like swiping a card. It's not quite that simple for a lot of the non-techs out there. Some folks to this day avoid paypal even, and that's among the easiest systems out there.

If you could make a front end system for the 'general masses' which was super-dumbified-down, then you'd have a rush of people getting into at least using it for transactions.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Bullionado on October 29, 2013, 01:34:34 PM
His best investment would be to endorse this currency in the main stream media. This would be more than enough for now.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 29, 2013, 03:49:31 PM
His best investment would be to endorse this currency in the main stream media. This would be more than enough for now.

This would go a long way for sure.   


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 29, 2013, 04:42:58 PM

Why doesn't Russell Brand start this revolution by donating his multimillion pound fortune towards erasing wealth disparity?

Oh yeah, because he's a hypocritical moron.

donating his fortune towards erasing the wealth disparity...... that sentance  made me laugh, here is why

even if 1 trillion government bank notes flew out of the rooftops of offices and rained down onto the public streets for anyone to pick up. the majority would still end up going to the rich.
even if 1 trillion government bank notes were equally divided and put into bank accounts of only the people that had less then a months salary at minimum wage saved up. it would eventually all flow back to the rich.

put short if only 500, million people were poor thats like £$2000 for each person instantly appearing in their bank. what happens, firstly social security/government benefits wil see the person has received an income and stop the benefits for a few weeks, thats maybe £$200-£$400  of food, bills and rent costs that the 'poor' person has to deduct from the win-fall. then they most likey think what can they spend the other £$1600 on that they havnt in a while.. a vacation..

so now the money is back in government hands (government housing) its in the elite richlists hands (walmart)(richard branson(virgin holidays).

now the second part of what made me laugh.

during RB's non sober days he use to not pay taxes and instead put his money into local bars (helping local economy/business) and other 'on the street' places which were not all part of the elite richlist.. so not so hypocritical, if you actually knew much about the guy.. and yes he use to party alot giving friends and family money as i he didnt care about it. helping them out

when was the last time anyone reading this blew £$100,000 on their family and friends in one night?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 29, 2013, 05:03:47 PM
More people would use altcoins if it was as simple as any other transaction these days, like swiping a card. It's not quite that simple for a lot of the non-techs out there. Some folks to this day avoid paypal even, and that's among the easiest systems out there.

If you could make a front end system for the 'general masses' which was super-dumbified-down, then you'd have a rush of people getting into at least using it for transactions.

totally agree, although there are App's in the works, after thinking about it, the 'silver' generation (granny) still prefer paper or plastic


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: CurbsideProphet on October 29, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Brand is pretty notorious for being hard to work with and a general asshole to most people.  He wouldn't be at the top of my list at people to contact but any support is good support I suppose.  Thanks for getting proactive.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 29, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
More people would use altcoins if it was as simple as any other transaction these days, like swiping a card. It's not quite that simple for a lot of the non-techs out there. Some folks to this day avoid paypal even, and that's among the easiest systems out there.

If you could make a front end system for the 'general masses' which was super-dumbified-down, then you'd have a rush of people getting into at least using it for transactions.

totally agree, although there are App's in the works, after thinking about it, the 'silver' generation (granny) still prefer paper or plastic

Yeah.. if you could make it as easy as 'do i use my visa, my bank card, my paypal, or my bitcoin card..' then you'll be golden. Until that point, I picture cryptcoin transactions as something similar to the first few days of PayPal.. lots of potential awesome, but it has a long way to go before there's spread adoption.

Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).

What would help get around this, like I said above, is if it were simply easier to pay with--because the coins will then go to merchants and get in their hands that way. It will spread slowly.

Get some sort of simple interface going, especially for multiple coins, which a merchant can adopt, and you'll see the embers start to pop up.

What would be even more amazing is if a central online merchant or retailer, Amazon comes to mind, were to allow cryptcoin payments.. oh my gosh, could you imagine how awesome that would be? Overnight there would be a surge.

And a huge jump in the value of BTC. This is what I hope for, because if the value skyrockets much quicker than difficulty, then the "no ROI ever" troll will be put into a box, at least for a short while.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 05:53:01 PM

Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).

What would help get around this, like I said above, is if it were simply easier to pay with--because the coins will then go to merchants and get in their hands that way. It will spread slowly.

Get some sort of simple interface going, especially for multiple coins, which a merchant can adopt, and you'll see the embers start to pop up.

What would be even more amazing is if a central online merchant or retailer, Amazon comes to mind, were to allow cryptcoin payments.. oh my gosh, could you imagine how awesome that would be? Overnight there would be a surge.

And a huge jump in the value of BTC. This is what I hope for, because if the value skyrockets much quicker than difficulty, then the "no ROI ever" troll will be put into a box, at least for a short while.

I mean, how much easier can payment be than copying and pasting a wallet address?

Everyone is focusing on the wrong things. The problem is NOT that people are having trouble spending their coins. The problem is THEY DO NOT HAVE COINS. We need to appeal to everyone from a 60 year old gold hoarder, to a 13 year old Justin Beiber fan. And we just have soo much left to do before that is possible. Why can't a kid that is not old enough to get a job, hop on a computer and earn coins? Devtome is the only way I see that people can earn an amount of coins that could be considered a job.

We need to look at how valuable alt coins can be, and how stupid they are right now. Altcoins get made for NO REASON, people literally make them for fun (but I hardly consider coding and mining fun) and mining then get mad at anyone that isn't techy enough to mine.

We need at least TEN coins that are like devcoin. Coins that are x% mining x% art or development.

Ex:
Devcoin is a coin where 90% of the coins that come out of a block, get generated to writers instead of miners. And it is merge mined with bitcoin, so that miners are not getting the short end of the stick.

This allows for an entirely new coin base. Now there is not just techs, but writers that have extensive knowledge about coins... Imagine if we had a coin that promoted the creation of videos, or the taking of pictures? We would see not only a flood of bitcoin recognition due to the media being produced by coiners, but we would see a spike in bitcoin purchases because struggling artists will be getting coins that they can spend on bitcoins.

Everyone knows about bitcoin (or has at least heard the word), now we just need to make it available to everyone.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 29, 2013, 05:58:49 PM
Who wants something they can't use? That's the point I make.

You can use gold and other forms of payment in the US, you don't have to use the Reserve Note (dollar). Yet--how many retailers and merchants can take gold or other items in place of the dollar? Practically none. Similar issue with online payments, unless it's a vetted and well-known industry standard, few online systems will employ it simply because it's not easy to do.

I agree, scanning a qr code is stupid easy, and I love transacting with cryptocurrencies. But tell a grandpa or any of the other folks you mentioned to go buy bitcoins, and I bet you'll get the question "what do I use it for, can I get gas with it, how do I buy stuff from stores online with it".

Again, people will want it when they find uses for it--easy uses.

Otherwise you're just pushing gold/silver/diamonds/bullets on people and telling them it's amazing to use for transactions. They simply won't be interested...kinda how the situation is right now.

Edit: Also, everyone has not heard about bitcoin or alternatives, nor what it's about, or how they can use it. That's silly to propose. I'm fairly well versed in the IT world, and despite hearing about bitcoin since its inception and how it could be used for transactions, none of it caught my eye until recently. Many other IT folk I've talked to haven't even heard of it.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 29, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
Also, I do like the idea of coins for a purpose as you mentioned, with a single main 'line' of coins for all purposes (bitcoin for example). Value is derived from purpose and use typically, so take altcoins and give them particular purposes, and you'll have inherint value.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 06:16:53 PM
Who wants something they can't use? That's the point I make.

You can use gold and other forms of payment in the US, you don't have to use the Reserve Note (dollar). Yet--how many retailers and merchants can take gold or other items in place of the dollar? Practically none. Similar issue with online payments, unless it's a vetted and well-known industry standard, few online systems will employ it simply because it's not easy to do.

I agree, scanning a qr code is stupid easy, and I love transacting with cryptocurrencies. But tell a grandpa or any of the other folks you mentioned to go buy bitcoins, and I bet you'll get the question "what do I use it for, can I get gas with it, how do I buy stuff from stores online with it".

Again, people will want it when they find uses for it--easy uses.

Otherwise you're just pushing gold/silver/diamonds/bullets on people and telling them it's amazing to use for transactions. They simply won't be interested...kinda how the situation is right now.

Edit: Also, everyone has not heard about bitcoin or alternatives, nor what it's about, or how they can use it. That's silly to propose. I'm fairly well versed in the IT world, and despite hearing about bitcoin since its inception and how it could be used for transactions, none of it caught my eye until recently. Many other IT folk I've talked to haven't even heard of it.

Bitpay just needs competition, and we would see an "arms race" that would bring about all those changes. But someone needs to step up as the competitor, which would cost quite a bit.

I know that everyone has not heard EVERYTHING about bitcoin, that is why I specified that they have "heard the word bitcoin" in parenthesis.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 06:18:28 PM
Also, I do like the idea of coins for a purpose as you mentioned, with a single main 'line' of coins for all purposes (bitcoin for example). Value is derived from purpose and use typically, so take altcoins and give them particular purposes, and you'll have inherint value.

Exactly. Make altcoins the "gate way drug" of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 29, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).

This is one of the driving forces behind building coinaxis, I wanted to remove the technical jargon (as much as possible), and create an environment where the non-techie can learn without the snark.  The real wealth behind bitcoin is if mass adoption happens.  The only way to do that, is to make it easy to use/explain/understand....and desirable.

https://coinaxis.com/index.php/news/entry/bitcoin-an-emerging-global-payment-system-coinaxis (https://coinaxis.com/index.php/news/entry/bitcoin-an-emerging-global-payment-system-coinaxis)

For many of you it's like preaching to the chior, but that doesn't remove the need for teenagers & grannies, and everyone else in between. 


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on October 29, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).

This is one of the driving forces behind building coinaxis, I wanted to remove the technical jargon (as much as possible), and create an environment where the non-techie can learn without the snark.  The real wealth behind bitcoin is if mass adoption happens.  The only way to do that, is to make it easy to use/explain/understand....and desirable.

https://coinaxis.com/index.php/news/entry/bitcoin-an-emerging-global-payment-system-coinaxis

For many of you it's like preaching to the chior, but that doesn't remove the need for teenagers & grannies, and everyone else in between. 

Exactly.

I sent this to over 3,000 people this weekend :)
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1peyx7/holy_shit_this_changes_bitcoin/

And sent this to everyone that said "Bitcoin" on twitter in the last hour :)
#Bitcoin is changing for the better http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1peyx7/holy_shit_this_changes_bitcoin/ … #Devcoin #MCXnow #FutureOfBTC


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 29, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?


What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?







Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 29, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?
What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?

He was the only one talking about revolution, other than him, Ben Bernanke would never respond to my bailout requests.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 30, 2013, 05:37:54 AM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?
What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?

He was the only one talking about revolution, other than him, Ben Bernanke would never respond to my bailout requests.



His revolution is not one I would like to see. He is extremely liberal in his views, and his revolution is mainly sexual in nature...
I haven't heard any remotely bright ideas from his mouth, ever.

The guy is an attention whore, nothing more. Let's get some A list people on board, leave the F list out of this ;)




Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: crazy_rabbit on October 30, 2013, 07:53:28 AM
+1

Definitely!



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: barbarousrelic on October 30, 2013, 09:22:08 AM
Brand's interview was babbling idiocy. A revolutionary who has absolutely no idea how to do anything to accomplish his goals other than 'a new system.' Well gee, asshole, what makes your system any better and not worse than the system we have?

There already exist political parties who want to tax the rich more and give it to the poor, and who want to pass more laws protecting the environment.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on October 30, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
Also, I do like the idea of coins for a purpose as you mentioned, with a single main 'line' of coins for all purposes (bitcoin for example). Value is derived from purpose and use typically, so take altcoins and give them particular purposes, and you'll have inherint value.

Exactly. Make altcoins the "gate way drug" of bitcoin.

Is there some sort of global cryptocurrency group? If not, there needs to be one, which would help gather this information into one place. There has to be some sort of basic organization of it all. Doesn't mean more coins can't pop up, but being able to provide central meaning to all of them would help.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 30, 2013, 06:10:29 PM
Brand's interview was babbling idiocy. A revolutionary who has absolutely no idea how to do anything to accomplish his goals other than 'a new system.' Well gee, asshole, what makes your system any better and not worse than the system we have?

There already exist political parties who want to tax the rich more and give it to the poor, and who want to pass more laws protecting the environment.

Exactly. He is a total idiot, and I use that word sparingly.

If you ever seen his show on TV in the USA (might already be canceled), you would see what a stooge he is.

The one time I saw it he was basically asking the female guest all sexual questions when the topic being discussed, terrorism, was serious.

And the fact he dated Katy Perry, -1.

Bad taste all around.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 30, 2013, 06:21:47 PM
Brand's interview was babbling idiocy. A revolutionary who has absolutely no idea how to do anything to accomplish his goals other than 'a new system.' Well gee, asshole, what makes your system any better and not worse than the system we have?

There already exist political parties who want to tax the rich more and give it to the poor, and who want to pass more laws protecting the environment.

Exactly. He is a total idiot, and I use that word sparingly.

If you ever seen his show on TV in the USA (might already be canceled), you would see what a stooge he is.

The one time I saw it he was basically asking the female guest all sexual questions when the topic being discussed, terrorism, was serious.

And the fact he dated Katy Perry, -1.

Bad taste all around.

would you prefer a politician that pretends he has no sexual desires in his veins, brains and DNA, a politician that denies inhaling drugs, a politician that just talks about what people want to hear, knowing after its said nothing changes
while later it comes to light he is a recovering drug addict and a womaniser.

or would you prefer a person that actually speaks his mind openly, that doesn't hide behind what nanny states call inappropriate and doesnt have its hands tied to 50 other politicians before a single speech or decision can be made.

i would love it if bush, clinton, or obama showed their human side.. by simply pointing at their wives and say 'i tap that, every night' we all know they do it, so why be against a human being that is not afraid to admit his previous failings with drugs and women.. i think honestly is the best policy.. and NOT policy without honesty is best


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 30, 2013, 07:00:46 PM
would you prefer a politician that pretends he has no sexual desires in his veins, brains and DNA, a politician that denies inhaling drugs, a politician that just talks about what people want to hear, knowing after its said nothing changes
while later it comes to light he is a recovering drug addict and a womaniser.

or would you prefer a person that actually speaks his mind openly, that doesn't hide behind what nanny states call inappropriate and doesnt have its hands tied to 50 other politicians before a single speech or decision can be made.

i would love it if bush, clinton, or obama showed their human side.. by simply pointing at their wives and say 'i tap that, every night' we all know they do it, so why be against a human being that is not afraid to admit his previous failings with drugs and women.. i think honestly is the best policy.. and NOT policy without honesty is best


Huh?

How about neither? You seem to be stuck in the mainstream media mind of things.

On one side you have people like Clinton and Obama. On the other we have way coooool Russell Brand.... not.

Sorry mate, turn off the telly and tune out of that hogwash. Brand is a tool.




You want someone to bring positive attention to Bitcoin?

Winklevoss twins are a good start. Have the news cover the Chinese investing all their money in Bitcoin instead of US dollars.

Heck, just get some rappers to put Bitcoin in their songs, that will probably help the most, LOL.



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 30, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
would you prefer a politician that pretends he has no sexual desires in his veins, brains and DNA, a politician that denies inhaling drugs, a politician that just talks about what people want to hear, knowing after its said nothing changes
while later it comes to light he is a recovering drug addict and a womaniser.

or would you prefer a person that actually speaks his mind openly, that doesn't hide behind what nanny states call inappropriate and doesnt have its hands tied to 50 other politicians before a single speech or decision can be made.

i would love it if bush, clinton, or obama showed their human side.. by simply pointing at their wives and say 'i tap that, every night' we all know they do it, so why be against a human being that is not afraid to admit his previous failings with drugs and women.. i think honestly is the best policy.. and NOT policy without honesty is best


Huh?

How about neither? You seem to be stuck in the mainstream media mind of things.

On one side you have people like Clinton and Obama. On the other we have way coooool Russell Brand.... not.

Sorry mate, turn off the telly and tune out of that hogwash. Brand is a tool.




You want someone to bring positive attention to Bitcoin?

Winklevoss twins are a good start. Have the news cover the Chinese investing all their money in Bitcoin instead of US dollars.

Heck, just get some rappers to put Bitcoin in their songs, that will probably help the most, LOL.



get some rapper to make a song about bitcoin is your response to changing government or beginning a revolution????

unlike eminem or other rappers that would just make a song and thats it.. who would you have in mind. and how would that actually change things long term.

now getting back to my statement, having someone the public recognise that when they say something, its atleast honest and a better step in the right direction. and then having the passion and desire to want change is the next step. russell brand isnt just saying words, he honestly does want to create change. he has alot of activism history and getting his nose into matters such as the G-20, iran and other issues..

what has marshall mathers done.. handed some food to a food bank as a promotion for his foundation, which is now a tax dodge.

as for the winklevoss twins.. they are not selling or promoting bitcoin, they are selling personal shares into their own company which they value at X amount of bitcoins.. its their attempt to cash in on the bitcoin hype, as they missed doing it with the gold or platinum hype of decades gone.



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on October 30, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
Side-stepping the opinions of Brand, or any other person for that matter.  The nice thing about bitcoin is it doesn't matter who likes it, supports it, promotes it, etc...  Bitcoin is a function of utility, and it becomes more secure, and valuable with more people using it.  If Brand promotes bitcoin, it would be no different than him promoting Mercedes, except the upside potential affects bitcoin users, not a corporation.  

If Brands million+ fans decide to hop on board with bitcoin, does it matter who the spokesman is?  It's part of gaining mass adoption, and it's necessary if you want things like bitcoin to succeed.  And when I say succeed, I mean, become wildly successful.  Right now most of the conversation is centered around technically inclined people, and outright nerds (I being the latter).  That doesn't cut it among the masses.  Take Linux for example.  Great software, horrible marketing.





Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on October 30, 2013, 08:16:25 PM
Side-stepping the opinions of Brand, or any other person for that matter.  The nice thing about bitcoin is it doesn't matter who likes it, supports it, promotes it, etc...  Bitcoin is a function of utility, and it becomes more secure, and valuable with more people using it.  If Brand promotes bitcoin, it would be no different than him promoting Mercedes, except the upside potential affects bitcoin users, not a corporation.  

If Brands million+ fans decide to hop on board with bitcoin, does it matter who the spokesman is?  It's part of gaining mass adoption, and it's necessary if you want things like bitcoin to succeed.  And when I say succeed, I mean, become wildly successful.  Right now most of the conversation is centered around technically inclined people, and outright nerds (I being the latter).  That doesn't cut it among the masses.  Take Linux for example.  Great software, horrible marketing.
+1

its not all about promoting it, its also about getting it to be useful. most mindsets are about promoting people to just buy bitcoin for the sake of raising the price. i prefer the promoting side where it gets USED by the people after they have bought in.. i know it only takes at the moment nearly 12 million people to deposit £$1000 ever in their life, to lift the market cap to a £$1000 per bitcoin price. but then what.. will these 12 million people be able to buy a coffee at starbucks instantly.. will a forgeign worker be able to send money home to his grandparents and they understand it enough and know a sleek method of converting bitcoins back to pay their own rent and electric bills?? or better yet, convince their landlord to accept bitcoin direct?

promoting bitcoins through songs and media is not enough, there has to be some footwork done. like getting these third world banks to no longer rely on a centralised database designed by microsoft access and modified operating systems to secure the digital numbers it holds.. but to get them to use the block chain and learn how they dont have to rely on corporations or charities to aid running their banks.

now back to the russell brand subject.. name me 3 other people that are internationally recognised as being:
involved with activist stuff EG not afraid to attend protests
involved in politics EG speaking up for stuff happening relating to G-20, the third-world, warzones, etc
what comes out of their mouth is atleast more honest then any government leader would dare say on TV


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: idev on October 30, 2013, 08:18:24 PM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?


What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?







You know that. What a wasteman brand is.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: tom.hashemi on October 30, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
THIS is why Brand's interview was a joke

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/10/robert-webb-re-joins-labour-protest-russell-brand


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on October 31, 2013, 06:33:36 PM

get some rapper to make a song about bitcoin is your response to changing government or beginning a revolution????

unlike eminem or other rappers that would just make a song and thats it.. who would you have in mind. and how would that actually change things long term.

now getting back to my statement, having someone the public recognise that when they say something, its atleast honest and a better step in the right direction. and then having the passion and desire to want change is the next step. russell brand isnt just saying words, he honestly does want to create change. he has alot of activism history and getting his nose into matters such as the G-20, iran and other issues..

what has marshall mathers done.. handed some food to a food bank as a promotion for his foundation, which is now a tax dodge.

as for the winklevoss twins.. they are not selling or promoting bitcoin, they are selling personal shares into their own company which they value at X amount of bitcoins.. its their attempt to cash in on the bitcoin hype, as they missed doing it with the gold or platinum hype of decades gone.




Revolution is a big word.

The way to get Bitcoin to expand is through integration into popular culture; songs, TV, movies, etc.

I never mentioned Eminem, and am perplexed you mention him since he is not a legitimate rapper. Sorry.

Brand is a joke. Plain and simple. He is the Kanye West of the UK. He needs to disappear already.

If you need to read it from someone else: http://www.salon.com/2013/10/25/i_dont_stand_with_russell_brand_and_neither_should_you/ (http://www.salon.com/2013/10/25/i_dont_stand_with_russell_brand_and_neither_should_you/)


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: BitDreams on November 01, 2013, 01:46:25 AM
Another thing.

No one is going to show the bitcoin community love as long as greedy hoarders are the face of it. That needs to change, and everyone will make an episode about bitcoin.

No one wants to tell everyone watching TV to go talk to a bunch of assholes (the current bitcoin community).

I'm not being an asshole. I promise! I'm telling people to, 'just buy one, forget about it for ten years' at the least. If you start finding it convenient spend and replenish so you always have that one. If I'm wrong see me in ten years and I'll buy dinner'.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 01, 2013, 04:03:53 AM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?

What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?

He's got my vote:

http://www.vegasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Andrew-Dice-Clay-at-TAO-red-carpe-570t.jpg


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: sdczen on November 01, 2013, 05:58:22 AM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?

What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?

He's got my vote:

http://www.vegasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Andrew-Dice-Clay-at-TAO-red-carpe-570t.jpg

Or???

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-UP782_oreill_E_20120917235735.jpg


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on November 02, 2013, 12:20:48 AM
no one is saying that Russell brand should become the next UK prime minister or anything to equal power of government leader, but if anyone had the fame to grab the media's attention with just one single tweet or a single statement said into a microphone, that 'joe public' would atleast want to hear, can you think of many others.

for instance arnold Schwarzenegger he has alot of friends in politics still he would be a good motivator for the US revolution, brand as the UK motivator. by this i mean these guys would motivate and organise protests but not become the countries leaders.

now if there was one guy that was to shout out to media "visit this government petition website and if we get X million signatures, then the government has to change"

who can you think of that could get that much publicity, and belief that the campaign is real in such a small timescale?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 02, 2013, 12:33:05 AM
no one is saying that Russell brand should become the next UK prime minister or anything to equal power of government leader, but if anyone had the fame to grab the media's attention with just one single tweet or a single statement said into a microphone, that 'joe public' would atleast want to hear, can you think of many others.

for instance arnold Schwarzenegger he has alot of friends in politics still he would be a good motivator for the US revolution, brand as the UK motivator. by this i mean these guys would motivate and organise protests but not become the countries leaders.

now if there was one guy that was to shout out to media "visit this government petition website and if we get X million signatures, then the government has to change"

who can you think of that could get that much publicity, and belief that the campaign is real in such a small timescale?

Another guy comes to mind:

http://www.mediaman.com.au/profiles/ventura_schwarzenegger.jpg


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: crazy_rabbit on November 02, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
Of all people.... Russell Brand?

What's the matter, couldn't find a bigger douche?

He's got my vote:

http://www.vegasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Andrew-Dice-Clay-at-TAO-red-carpe-570t.jpg

He's got mine too. Lets tweet him.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 02, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
Russell Brand, Andrew Dice Clay, Jesse Ventura, Schwarzenegger......


Douche.... bag..... overload!!!!!



*ahem*

Let's try again.
Requirements to be semi-official spokesman of Bitcoin:

1) Cannot have had an extramarital affair.

2) Cannot be an outspoken critic about aliens or other weird crap.
(remember, the spokesperson is supposed to bring credibility to Bitcoin in the public's eyes, not scare them away!)

3) Cannot be full of themselves.


There!


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2013, 11:44:25 PM
Out of curiosity, why do we need Russell Brand on board?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Kouye on November 03, 2013, 12:11:14 AM
Out of curiosity, why do we need Russell Brand on board?

Because we need everyone on board?

Douche.... bag..... overload!!!!!
Requirements to be semi-official spokesman of Bitcoin:

1) Cannot have had an extramarital affair.

2) Cannot be an outspoken critic about aliens or other weird crap.
(remember, the spokesperson is supposed to bring credibility to Bitcoin in the public's eyes, not scare them away!)

3) Cannot be full of themselves.

There!

Wow. Just wow. That's the best defnition of not being a douchebag I ever saw.
Thank you, Andrew, we'll never again get a shady spokesman, thanks to you.

this is relevant i think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STUU3M4U3Y

Yes, and this will probably hit him up before the open letter, which, nevertheless, was a good move, imho.







Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on November 03, 2013, 12:58:14 AM
what does having an extra-marital affair have to do with anything.. i thought that was just a rule limited to christians, because in the real world it happens with real people more often then you think..

i do agree about the alien and other tinfoil hat people though.

but to those dissing RBrand. im still awaiting your recommendations for someone with enough fame to get the message out there, enough passion to want politics changed and of course a level head (honest and open personality people will believe) to get the ball running.

no one is asking for a "leader" but atleast someone that can motivate and inform the masses.

so lets hear them names roll in

ok ill start
Ron Paul


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 03, 2013, 05:30:26 AM
what does having an extra-marital affair have to do with anything.. i thought that was just a rule limited to christians, because in the real world it happens with real people more often then you think..

i do agree about the alien and other tinfoil hat people though.

but to those dissing RBrand. im still awaiting your recommendations for someone with enough fame to get the message out there, enough passion to want politics changed and of course a level head (honest and open personality people will believe) to get the ball running.

no one is asking for a "leader" but atleast someone that can motivate and inform the masses.

so lets hear them names roll in

ok ill start
Ron Paul


Contradiction ROFL.

Ron Paul = tinfoil hat person.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on November 03, 2013, 07:11:47 AM
hi my name is andrewWilliams i cannot think of a positive way to expand bitcoin, nor am i socially accepted in real life to ever meet or know anyone good enough to promote bitcoin. thus i will just troll the forum thread and not actually contribute.
i dont know any famous people but i will insult any name others suggest for the pure hell of it

maybe me editing the above will show the true meaning of your replies (pure waffle) and might make you answer properly:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GUYS MENTIONED, THEN TELL US WHO YOU HAVE IN MIND THATS BETTER


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 03, 2013, 07:32:28 AM
hi my name is andrewWilliams i cannot think of a positive way to expand bitcoin, nor am i socially accepted in real life to ever meet or know anyone good enough to promote bitcoin. thus i will just troll the forum thread and not actually contribute.
i dont know any famous people but i will insult any name others suggest for the pure hell of it

maybe me editing the above will show the true meaning of your replies (pure waffle) and might make you answer properly:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GUYS MENTIONED, THEN TELL US WHO YOU HAVE IN MIND THATS BETTER

Sorry franky1, mate, but your suggestions are utterly deplorable!  Save the putdowns for your therapist!

:D

Now sit and learn. :)

People who would actually help Bitcoins image:

Sean Parker (still influential), Mark Zuckerberg, Seth McFarlane (Stewie voice please!), Michael Savage (yeah!), Alex Jones
Greg Gutfeld (Fox News), Harrison Ford, Lil Wayne, Eddie Murphy, Charlie Sheen (winning!)
As a collective: The Tea Party
Miley Cyrus



Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: crazy_rabbit on November 03, 2013, 11:23:03 AM
hi my name is andrewWilliams i cannot think of a positive way to expand bitcoin, nor am i socially accepted in real life to ever meet or know anyone good enough to promote bitcoin. thus i will just troll the forum thread and not actually contribute.
i dont know any famous people but i will insult any name others suggest for the pure hell of it

maybe me editing the above will show the true meaning of your replies (pure waffle) and might make you answer properly:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GUYS MENTIONED, THEN TELL US WHO YOU HAVE IN MIND THATS BETTER

Sorry franky1, mate, but your suggestions are utterly deplorable!  Save the putdowns for your therapist!

:D

Now sit and learn. :)

People who would actually help Bitcoins image:

Sean Parker (still influential), Mark Zuckerberg, Seth McFarlane (Stewie voice please!), Michael Savage (yeah!), Alex Jones
Greg Gutfeld (Fox News), Harrison Ford, Lil Wayne, Eddie Murphy, Charlie Sheen (winning!)
As a collective: The Tea Party
Miley Cyrus

The Tea Party?  You mean the guys that shut down the government because of their ideological insanity? No thank. Russel Brand all the way if that the choice I have.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: kriwest on November 03, 2013, 12:32:23 PM

People who would actually help Bitcoins image:

Alex Jones - Are you kidding? Tinfoil master of the world.

Charlie Sheen - Probably the biggest celebrity douchebag on the planet. Threatened his ex with a knife, coked out of his mind, pays for sex with drugged pornstars. Yeah, great spokes person.

Miley Cyrus - twerk, twerk.

http://www.puranoticia.cl/front/adjunto/img/2013/10/10/foto_80876_280x190px_1.jpg


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on November 03, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
i know your only trolling, and i love the comedical responses but lets try being serious and look at ur list

Sean Parker (still influential),
 your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.
lol the sell out that advocated that selling peoples private info to corporations and government was the way zuckerburg should take facebook...

Mark Zuckerberg,
same reason as sean parker

Eddie Murphy,
 your own rules:
1) Cannot have had an extramarital affair.
3) Cannot be full of themselves.

Charlie Sheen (winning!)
your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.

Miley Cyrus
only influential to the teenagers and to advertise cam4BTC
your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.


i think you are imagining some kind of TV advert much like mastercard, purely to have a well known face saying how great the payment processing is. because i cannot honestly see theses people you mentioned being the motivators for a revolution to change the whole government scheme


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 03, 2013, 11:22:46 PM
i know your only trolling, and i love the comedical responses but lets try being serious and look at ur list

Sean Parker (still influential),
 your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.
lol the sell out that advocated that selling peoples private info to corporations and government was the way zuckerburg should take facebook...

Mark Zuckerberg,
same reason as sean parker

Eddie Murphy,
 your own rules:
1) Cannot have had an extramarital affair.
3) Cannot be full of themselves.

Charlie Sheen (winning!)
your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.

Miley Cyrus
only influential to the teenagers and to advertise cam4BTC
your own rules: 3) Cannot be full of themselves.


i think you are imagining some kind of TV advert much like mastercard, purely to have a well known face saying how great the payment processing is. because i cannot honestly see theses people you mentioned being the motivators for a revolution to change the whole government scheme

Seriously post!

Fed Not Guaranteed, hence this guy: Mark Duplass.

Does he pass muster?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Kouye on November 03, 2013, 11:38:50 PM
Fed Not Guaranteed, hence this guy: Mark Duplass.

Does he pass muster?

Not sure.
Does he like to tea party while remaining faithful to his one and only love?


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: franky1 on November 03, 2013, 11:53:49 PM

Seriously post!

Fed Not Guaranteed, hence this guy: Mark Duplass.

Does he pass muster?

havnt seen much of his work , had to look him up, not much listed about any passion for political change, or being big and famous enough to motivate crowds of people into signing petitions or organising their own protests...

i got nothing against this suggested person. but theres nothing really about him that shows he would make a great motivator for change, when thinking of this guy, i start to compare him to for instance the three main actors from the TV series "Lost"... which is a bit more publicly known to many people.. and i think that those 3 would be higher on my list then Mark Duplass..

for now, though im sticking with Schwarzenegger for USA and Brand for UK as my personal choices, untill someone comes up with a better motivator. atleast these 2 guys already have a "foot in the door" of politics to know how things work and how to get things to change. and famous enough to get stuff printed on front pages of media.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: mel2000 on November 04, 2013, 04:11:16 AM
Why should a celebrity who made their wealth without bitcoin put their reputation on the line to promote something they know little about? What's wrong with Roger Ver? He's very photogenic and articulate, and has enough knowledge about bitcoin to not make a fool of himself on TV. He's already a celebrity in the financial realm. And he doesn't carry the baggage the proposed candidates have.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 04, 2013, 05:41:01 AM
OK... OK.... you guys have a point.


Cross Sean Parker and Mark Zuckerberg off the list for being full of themselves.

I am willing to overlook Mr. Eddie Murphy's improprieties because he is such a genuinely funny man.

Charlie Sheen has a tendency to alternate between douchey and ultra cool, so that's a hard call.

Miley Cyrus gets in because she is getting the publicity, one way or another. In other words, she has the X factor.



Franky, I don't know if anyone is going to be able to change "the whole government scheme." Things like that are not really up to individuals. I think the best thing to compare it to is medical marijuana legislation.

I think the best angle is to get spokespeople to help bring popular support to Bitcoin and help expand the user base.

Yes, "lobbyists" are needed, but at this point I think Bitcoin has already "gone over the hump" so to speak. If the US govt didn't want Bitcoin being used right now, I'm pretty sure they would be successful in blocking it / manipulating it in some shape or form.


Sorry, never heard of Mark Duplass. Spokesperson should be instantly recognizable by face, name, or voice.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 04, 2013, 05:46:16 AM
Why should a celebrity who made their wealth without bitcoin put their reputation on the line to promote something they know little about? What's wrong with Roger Ver? He's very photogenic and articulate, and has enough knowledge about bitcoin to not make a fool of himself on TV. He's already a celebrity in the financial realm. And he doesn't carry the baggage the proposed candidates have.


True, except I don't know anyone that fits that description :(

I have heard Ashton Kutcher promote his investment in Bitcoin at a conference about 6 months ago, but he is not promoting it full bore... yet.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: vesperwillow on November 04, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
The Tea Party?  You mean the guys that shut down the government because of their ideological insanity? No thank. Russel Brand all the way if that the choice I have.

The government shut itself down. If it were running appropriately, we wouldn't have any of these issues.

Someone seriously suggested Miley Cyrus? You guys may as well find a dirty diaper and use it as a bitcoin mascot, it would get more positive coverage than she is.

What you need is a well-known and respected individual, one who has more respect among the citizens than among the top tier in life--regardless of their personal views, sexual choices, music choices, etc. They need to be as pallatable to the majority as possible while still commanding authority.

You guys are just choosing random celebs and some political folk--at this rate the dirty diaper would do better. Even if a celeb was the best choice (which, they aren't), they wouldn't back something unless it's something they personally loved--and could get paid for the advertisement.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 04, 2013, 03:23:38 PM
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Spokesperson should be instantly recognizable by face, name, or voice.

Want to see my bank? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ammimNTfaG0) This guy! You'll learn the significance of the first sentence toward the end of the linked 5:12m video.

~TMIBITW


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: ANiceJewishBoy on November 09, 2013, 07:51:46 PM
Please visit this thread and just say "w00t" or something so that people end up seeing the thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329338.0

I promise Social media is more important to Bitcoin than everyone thinks.


Title: Re: Open letter to Russell Brand, asking him to join the bitcoin revolution
Post by: MaxBTC1 on November 09, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
This is a great idea although he has been mocked across the media.  Whilst it would be great to get some publicity he may be the wrong median.