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Right now people are in panic mode, Most of them don't see the big picture and are just here for the quick buck.

The total amount of fiat money in the world is over 80 trillion- This is a conservative estimate and it much higher.  The crypto market will grow very rapidly over the next 2 years.  At the end of 2018 it should be minimum 1 trillion total.  At the end of 2019 it will be over 5 trillion.

My mathematical formulas tells me bitcoin will be somewhere between 46,653-57,259 at the end of this year. 

Don't fall for the stupid government fud.  Governments can't ban crypto and they don't want to.  Any country stupid enough to ban cryptocurrency would lose out on a massive amount of money.  People wil just spend their money in countries that allow it.

In the far future (in crypto tearms, like 3+ years) , fiat money will rapidly start to lose value and the us dollar will have significantly crashed by then.

You say the dollar will collapse in the future, I think this can not happen. They are one of the most valuable assets. If Crypto replaced the dollar so they are not suitable for some low level users. They will make it difficult for the elderly, blind people ... etc. I think the dollar will never collapse, the digital currency is only an auxiliary for USD. I think so.

Your predictions are not realistic at all, they are only your opinion (speculation) on what could happen with no prof at all. And also I think that no one can predict what is going to happen tomorrow, yet along for 1 year or so. This is like tossing a coin, there are only two options. Chance for crypto dying are there, but I agree that they are really low. Leading countries are look for solution on how to benefit from crypto.
But don't be fooled, crypto can be banned. And all it takes for that to happen, is that leading countries ban it and the rest of the world will probably follow.

Nothing is certain, there are only speculations.

The dollar will be crashed if there is a lot of problems in the financial economy of US. But it looks like getting started right now. The decentralized blockchain has been building by million nodes can't be broken by the regulators.

Making a forecast is very difficult and imagine a long-term forecast but if I believe that within 1 or 2 years the price of bitcoin should be around $ 20,000 and it is also probable that it has already been regularized and recognized in several countries .

I think no one will give any predictions. All opinions of analysts and evaluations are similar to sporic sessions

this year will be a year that we will see fluctuations from time to time. it is useful for investors to act at risk. they must be more technical in ICO and Project Support.  ;)

So, thats your prediction on how the  bitcoin or should I say cryptocurrency will rise at the end of 2018. Nice prediction basing on what I just saw in facebook that it was an ad of a dollar that it is in trading. I was so curious and this made me realize that its possible and it has a connection with that ad I saw. So, back to the topic. Many people predict it by basing on the charts and previews rising and falling market values, your prediction and great and has a possible connection on what people predicts this past few weeks that I just saw. Also I want to say this not because its your subject because this is the must original thing I even read about the possibility of what will happen. 

If calculated by a mathematical formula, yes it is true. But what if the whale came back to manipulate the price, maybe your calculations will be exactly the wrong even 'very wrong'.


Nothing can bring the dollar down significantly as we know the dollar is the cornerstone of all the currencies and benchmarks of the world's great trading economy. And the dollar will drop if the US has problems in its economy.

In the period of the bear market, you are talking about real forecasts, and the growth of bitcoins. You or an optimist or do not really see what's happening now on the market. Yes, crypto currency has a future, but 2018 is not the most successful for the whole market and investors.

All forecasts are wrong, many people have many opinions and so many predictions. I see no reason for the price of bitcoin at 45 thousand dollars, and the fact that the dollar will collapse.

Correct. As mentioned so many times people shouldn't believe in every fud that comes on news. There is going to be regulation as government need to make money from crypto as well but they already know that it's going to explode anytime and they are trying to keep it low for as long as possible. Once they can't do it anymore it will rise.

It is only possible to make any kind of prediction after understanding the range of LN. The pespectvas are great. If we actually have a means of payments that escalates. That on account of a high volume for a low price, we will have liquidity outside the exchanges. That is, it will no longer only be a target of speculation. With that the volume of negotiations increases. Bitcoin becomes something from day to day, more people know it. And with the confidence of being a robust and reliable system, we will have more people using it as Store of value as well.

Reallistic prediction if 2017 market is like 2012 market then 2018 market would be like 2013 market and we will see bitcoin at $100k by the end of this year. But if 2017 market is like 2013 market then we will see bitcoin move arround $4500 - $9000 a whole year and we will see the dip at $4500 then we can goes to the moon again at 2021 after halving which can happen in 2020

All predictions are realistic but in realistic that could be possible. If we talk about possible it means not so sure that it will come to pass. The chances is there bug a little bit doubtful that it will for crypto managing the system in unknown next of what is going on tomorrow. That is why predictions is pre, sounds pre-ideas by self hypothesis and perspectives.

Forecasting in crypto is often wildly inaccurate.

Personally I expect that crypto will continue the long term trend of a slowish increase in value, with plenty of rises and pullbacks along the way. The long-term trend on the charts is fairly clear... but as I say, all guesswork, and predictions are generally unreliable :)

Any proof? As far as I know the dollar still lead the fiat currency in this time. He was saying based on his speculation and you don't need to take it seriously dude. But we are facing big bearish trend after we have reached big bullish game on the last year. The only reason for bitcoin worth 45k dollars if there is a widely adoption or the majority of countries consider to accepting it soon.
This is why speculation just like people are speaking about their opinion regarding the future of crypto.

I have made my maths and i do have almost the same estimation for marketcap compare to yours
My prediction is that
2017 - Hit close to 1 Trillion, then market corrects real hard in 2018
2018 - Market corrected, re run on market with great news like ETFs allowed, SEC/Laws/Jurisdiction goes positive, At least 1.5 Trillion
2019 - Boom

I foresee a collapse of the traditional finance that will also invest the crypts. But then the crypts will rise again as traditional centralized finance will die forever

Sorry, but I don't find this realistic at all. Bitcoin price is anything else but mathematical formula.

We will be lucky men if we see a 20K bitcoin again anytime soon this year.

To be honest, we do not support 3-4 major countries (China, South Korea, America and Russia) and we are under a lot of pressure.

You prediction is wrong. Have only one thing in mind... know that nothing from past years could happen ever again, simply because markets are not in same condition. So that is why market can't be the same like it was in 2012, 2013 or any other year. Market is constantly changing, prediction what is going to happen next is like predicting on which side a coin will land after tossing. There is chance for either way, but its unpredictable.

I completely agree with this sentence, some people who buy bitcoin are from the bull market season the ATH hoping to ride the rocket instead they rode a dumping roller coaster, disappointment comes then cash out to cut the loss.

Can you show some of your mathematical formulas, how accurate is that computation? I think this is not so realistic prediction calculation though we cannot deny the fact that market is unpredictable it will go for that price range, it's too high to be realistic.

Nope not in 3 years plus, current technology and cryptocurrency are still premature to handle that kind of obligation, fiat is still efficient and functional.

I am not certain about the amount of fiat money in circulation around the world but i do like to know how you calculated the price at the end of this year, the said price could be attained without a doubt in the long run , but cannot predict exactly it could happen this year. I am would like to see the total asset valuation to cross over a trillion dollar in a few years .

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It's hard to predict or estimate any value for BTC or any other altcoins in this chaotic enviroment. There are limitless variables that hinder to foresee.

This is the really review on what the market will be in future and I just believe that the bullish market especially the major push that may give us the all time high is very close and to keep on buying from those that keeps on dumping they holding and this will serve as a transfer of wealth.

 Remember that the thing that makes crypto attractive is the thing that might hurt it the most: lack of a central authority that can be trusted, like a bank.
But, keep your chin up: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and learn from this experience to come out a stronger, more diligent investor.
For instance, investing with solid technologies and team and being skeptic of *every* claim that projects make.
If you are willing to weather the storms then placing your trust in a solid product like Gifts, Rentberry, and even the upcoming Multiversum you will sleep easy and have financed a great product with growth potential.

at the end of this year prediction of bitcoin will reach high prices and all altcoin will also be a great ride. that's my prediction, and perhaps also the expectations of all those who invest.

Bitcoin reaching 46k $? No way. I believe in bitcoin, but sometimes I have to be realistic. I mean it can reach that, but now it is facing many obstacles from media and the governments. And those two have caused a decline of the bitcoin price. And many are going to stand in bitcoin's way. This year is not a good year for all cryptocurrency. I hope the next year will improve many things as bitcoin will go back to normal.

It's a pretty interesting statement, and well.. we should really have to believe that makes it will be higher or stronger. Attacking or weakening that's certain.. but it doesn't rule out that it will be worse or has no good future, and anyhow this is not over yet, the story is still long and crypto still in its young age.
It will be more acceptable in various governments or not.. its user dependent and the progress of the crypto's developments in a more useful direction and not to the detriment of the state.

A prediction that dollar will significantly crash in 3+ years is a bold statement. I would like to see it, but your prediction is based on what?
Market cap and Bitcoin price that you predicted are realistic to me, but if this dip continues for several months more, every of your prediction will be incorrect.

In my opinion your predictions are overpriced, bitcoin price to end of this year will be lower than you saying and dollar never die, because older people prefer normal materialist money

Mind to share what are the fundamentals for this mathematical formulas used? :D

i read this in your posts,, "My mathematical formulas tells me bitcoin will be somewhere between 46,653-57,259 at the end of this year."
my questions is how did you calculate this predictions ?
with a technical indicator or another charts tool such as fibonacci or elliot waves
thank you

Can not we predict the actual value of each bitcoin or other altcoins in 2018 at the price? But overall, in the first quarter of 2018, the market has experienced price volatility, and I am certain that the market will rebound and by the end of 2018, the price of coin in the cryptocurrency market. will increase at a level that we can not predict.

no one can predict the real value of bitcoin and altcoin, it's because more factors can affect value in the market like government regulation, big traders manipulation and most often happens is the panic of newcomers on cryptocurrency so they can sell their digital assets without thinking , and dollar will never end because everyone still needs the real money in his life

Predictions in 2018 dollars will still strong. It would not replace by any other cryptocurrency but it will become weaker when years pass by. Dollars will easily fade but not suddenly end.

no panic  mode,  we  are  in hibernate  mode


there is not new money  flowing in, forget  moon missions  until  we'll have a  new media coverage.  

The  stagnant  market like this, made of  ''holders''  can  also last  for  years

So be realistic, there is no pump in program

BTC around 40K and ETH around 4K are my predictions for the end of the year. Volatility will be crazy so buckle your seat belts  ;)

well,  base on what?

Based on random internet guy feeling.

your calculations are so funny. But I catched the sense and think the same way. Crypto capitalization is  lower than 1% of all money circulating supply, so we can easily grow in 10-50 times

no authority overshadowing its activity, the virtual currency also has no official administrator, no underlying asset underlying the price of virtual currency, as well as highly vulnerable trading values ​​that are vulnerable to a number of risks. That is the reason why my country's government forbids crypto currency. I think the crypto currency developers will make the rules or improvements in their system better. Innovations in crypto currency will always be there.

You are so wrong. All money not backed by anything will collapse.  Simply because no one will want to bail out any new bank. You will see in next financial crisis.  In 2009 there was no alternative so all happened odl way. Now we have alternative and part of politicians will turn this way and win elections with it.  All fiat currencies we know right now will be soon worth nothing.    If we look for USD they would lose being a global currency anyway in next few years, but this si sad story fro CNY. They were so close.   This are two countries that will fight crypto most. USA and China. In all other countries will go way more smooth.

I have seen many predictions and they contradict each other. I'm not surprised, because in the crypto world everything is very changeable. I can't say exactly what kind of forecast I believe the most. But I hope that everything will be fine and the market will go up at the end ;)

It is true - we have a full setting for the market to grow strongly - I'll just sit and hold till that happen.

I do not know how much I can believe mathematical formulas, but I hope that the forecast will come true. Thanks for the positive.

Yes we can't really predict exactly what the reality to happened. But I think 2018 has full of promising theory that the market will turn into green and this will have great probability that it will get much even better than last 2017 months. Let's be positive and have great faith with it.

this year will be the year for cryptocurrency to recover its price and it might be the year for some projects to create their own ATH.
for example Phore project.
this year they're successfully integrated in their system and became the first Pure PoS project that used Segwit.
but for Bitcoin itself,at most it will only around $10.000~ more or less.
it's very unlikely to create another ATH because we need to increase the demand and new investor.
so it can be distributed widely and helps us spread it to the rest of the world.

I also have the same idea as you, I think Bitcoin will be around 40k USD and ETC around 3k USD. My prediction is based on the crypto market data and my own research. I think most people here will laungh at your prediction right now but they will change when the price reach 20k again.

Governments will never allow such a situation! Fiat money is the foundation of a stable country, and they will do everything they can to prevent it.

Right now the sign has all started and we have reached to a much better level. Almost all coins get a positive stigma and we are on an improved path of crypto development. The main reason being rational is that nowadays more and more people are getting to know cryptocurrencies. Because when more and more demand factors will be higher the price of a cryptocurrencies.

This is not the only reason, because there are still many factors that support and one of them is there are some countries and institutions that have started receiving cryptocurrency in their financial system.

I think Right now the good signs have started and we have reached a much better level. This year will be the year for e-money thriving, Be positive and have great faith with it, and I hope that the forecast will come true.

Now that the market is hard to predict, we can not predict the exact direction of the Crypto market. So please try to update your knowledge to support your business analysis. So you have a chance to win the next time.

one thing is for sure from here on bitcoin price will move up as many big whales have invested in bitcoin and from time to time they make predictions that bitcoin will be over 50K or 1 million to create FOMO and people starts to invest more and more ...so yea the rich get richer

Forecasting your 2018 future is completely inaccurate. the dollar will never collapse. This Crypto market is heavily dependent on the dollar. And all future market forecasts are relative. There is no analyst who can assert that he correctly predicts through a chart

You are almost predicted nearly what experts predicted for this year and your mathematical calculations is good as well. Appreciate your effort in calculating theoretically rather than just predicting what could be the price for 2018. Most of the experts in crypto currency market have predicted that Bitcoin would touch $60000 this year and the current trend also supports the same.

I personally don't think so,Its very hard to say for me..it may not be 5 trillion,but I hope it will be 1-2..what about significant Legal Barriers,When governments disagree at such a basic level ,it is usually because they possess only pieces of the overall picture,Even if we want to talk about  legal grounds,They don't have it to ban cryptos because they don't have legal basis and relevant legislative grounds,I'm talking about legally developed governments,they don't have  because here is the will of the people and their rights/possibilities to ''play'' with  their own property as they want and as they need.

Governments banning bitcoin is the main problem for bitcoin in 2018 or else bitcoin market itself would have reached 500 billion dollars so regulations are affecting the growth

i dont think thats a problem... because if they really wanted to do it.. then they would already have done it, no problem... blocking exchanges etc,
would not be such a big problem, but they can't because there are already a few big companies , rich and influential people behind this...

let it call us "crash" what we saw a few weeks ago, was a logical thing, what you could suspect... in 2017 there was no other financial product or anything else with such a big profitability..
even small investors.. who spend a few 100$ become "rich" ... and already rich people, became "ultra" rich... many people were invested long ago, so they put out there profits, ok.. next thing is that i think
big companies and investors tried to bring the price down, to get in cheaper, companies and govs... are working together... nobody says but its a fact!
only a logical thing.. many believed that crypto is going down, so they were afraid to invest... but in the end of 2017 they saw how good that tech is .. i think that was all planned, to get in cheaper..
especially for this people who said crypto is shit and bla bla.. now, haha funny, this people saying crypto is the future...

back to topic, predictions.. hm hard to say..
but i think we reach a new ATH at total Market Cap, maybe with a new NR.1? dont know, the only thing i know is that when we reach a new ath in btc.. and in the MC.. nearly every coin where you invested in right now, will bring you profit

I think it is a big probability that we can see the prices of the cryptocurrencies very high again in a near future. I hope that bitcoin's price will rise again sharply, and the other altcoin prices too.

Regardless of how the crypto expands, the dollar will not go anywhere. The crash of the dollar is not good to anyone. There are also many places on earth where crypto-currencies still not be available for technical reasons.

i think that a realistic prediction for 2018 in this moment can be that we will surpass the level of 2017 with a bullish market in the second half of this year, maybe we can reach even 2k billion dollars market cap. more i think it would be insane.

Yes maybe later this year but i beliave we will see another lower lows for bitcoin soon i still think that what is happening now is only correction BTC to 11k then fall.

I agree with you. When we reach 1 trillion, that means is the last steps are being taken. So, cryptocurrencies are future of money, but, not all of them. Because there have a lot of shitcoins which only steal newbie's money.

2018 - The year of re-enforcement and establishment of crypto foundation.
2019 - Massive adoption.
2020 - Mainstream.

I don't think people understand that we greatly need fiat because it is through this that Bitcoin in particular is measured, people predicting the collapse of USD in particular do not understand hat they are saying. There is no doubt in my mind that the market will keep going because alot of people still don't know what Crypto is all about and when they do, these funds is going to enter and drive the price up t another heights

If fiat currency is lossing the value a lot of different stable coins will appear - corporative, local on, international ones etc..Even now there are few promising stable coins like LibreCash, TrueUSD and others. There will be a demand for the currency that wont fluctuate at all

Btc is quite stable now.Hopefully it will hold its position for next 3-4 month,then we might see another run.So by new year alts can be back to 2017 new year price hopefully

Dominantion of stable coins? It is barely possible as for this purpose the full regulation has to come because any stable coin will have shares and will be the security token

Take it form me - regulation will come pretty soon! Just look at all the top countries! They are preparing for that and when they come to this market ...Well such huge volatility will be over and the only way to gain profit will be owning the shares of companies or coins with baking where u have the right for some part of that baking. So it is obviously stable coins. There are a lot now ( i have mentiond above) and much more will come. Mark my words

Although many predict that in 2018 the year of altcoin, prices will rise sharply. But personally I do not see the market thriving in the past time, I think the market will decline in the future.

do u really think that such coins as TrueUSD or LibreCash can be like global currencies when regulation will come?

You are right everybody here now think that dark times ended and now its slowly going to moon - NO.Expect some growth for few weeks and then go down again it can be real DOOM,2018 will be like ride on rollercoaster.

Why not?? It has all the opportunities. The trend for the whole crypto industry for the upcoming years - it is global regulation and from 1600 different project that exist now only 100-200 will survive

IMHO lots of exchanges were bought by the wales. I don't believe that they will allow to disappear their investment. And the only way to increase quantity of new money is BTC price growth) 

one realistic prediction we can expect for 2018 is bitcoin will touch 25 thousand dollars by this year-end most certainly we see crossing the all-time high

Is that a fact or speculation.

you are absolutely right, but the increase in the price for Bitcoin can only be increased by the demand for this coin. But if we analyze the current situation on the market, then the rise in prices for Bitcoin is doubtful in the near future.

I have been thinking the same thing in the last days. I've seen some very unpredictable price changes, random adding and unlisting from coins on several "no-rules" exchanges. There should be guarantees for users. I am not talking government protection, mind you :P but clear rules, to be followed by the users as well as by the exchanges themselves. At this point, a lot of these small exchanges seem to only have rules for its users and take no responsibility whatsoever for themselves.

Your predictions are groundless; they are just your guesses. No one can predict the future of cryptocurrency because there are too many unknowns.

I also estimated market from this point of view and according to total money supply , 1-5 trillion for crypto market isn't that much. So currently it is better buy and hold for 10x cash out in 1-2 year.
 Keep buying and holding, guys

I agree with you, if the government can not refuse the crypto, they can lose money by forbidding crypto, the government should accept the crypto as a new Economy, the government's current task is to learn and understand crypto, but about the prediction of Bitcoin or altcoin price I can not foresee it , hopefully the price of Bitcoin and altcoin is in line with what many people expect.

It is getting harder to make accurate predictions for crypto because market is far from being stable. It is just going up for a while and then going down and repeat the same circle. I am still hopeful for the end of this year but we neeed to calm down as community. We are panicking very easily and that hurts our recovery process so bad.

When the crypto market hits $800 billion again, the trillion level can be reached in several weeks.

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I'm of same belief too.

I think that altcoins will gain more traction as they build upon the already created crypto currencies. BTC has made the initial surge, but other altcoins will have solid uses that will follow behind it.

Too good to be true and you said it's a realistic prediction that bitcoin will reach $46,653 at year end of 2018. Wow amazing prediction as I thought that nobody can predict the bitcoin price and what they are doing is a pure speculation that it will go that way. Anyway I'm hoping that the price will reach high as I will be glad if I see it at $25k for this year.

I agree with the stuff that you mentioned about the government regulations, they can't actually regulate or ban bitcoin itself, yet people are panicking about it, which makes no sense since we all know that bitcoin is decentralized. In a falling market like this, I also agree with you that buying the dip is probably the best action to take.

However, you said that by the end of 2018, the crypto market cap will be $1 trillion, which is hard to believe.

Personally speaking I can only see crypto markets recover partially by the end of the year, and it's nowhere going to be near $1 trillion.

Crypto market cap was over $800 billion already in January of this year so $1 trillion is just a marginal new high so  it is easily possible once the crypto market goes into a strong up move like 2017. Hopefully next week's big crypto conference in New York will start this years big rise.

Your predictions are groundless and the status of fiat money is not easily replaceable.

Assumptions of some experts that before the end of this year bitcoin will cost 20000-25000 $ is quite real, also the price of ethereum is expected above 2000 $. If the price will be  higher, then I will be just happy!

No point in all of these predictions, is it going to be 1 or 10 trillion, the target for this year could be reaching our previous ATH as a psychological barrier. If it does happen, FOMO will kick and bring us to the new levels, I do not care how high, but you should think about 800 bil. in the first place. It won't stay there if it is reached indeed, that's for sure.

I also think the Bitcoin Cash will be between $10k to 20k.

I really expect ETH to be $ 1200-1400, ADA $ 1 and ZRX $ 3. But who can predict this market in advance.