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Hello,

First time poster long time lurker.

I have had various discussions with different bitcoin guys, but I am left still unclear as to how I might do this. I have recently become the owner of an original 1960s Cold War bunker located in Canada. This particular bunker used to be used for secure data storage and communications for NATO from the 1970s to the 1990s. That was only a portion of the bunker though. The entire facility was designed for 350 people to survive a chemical, nuclear, or biological event.

Now the reason I am posting here is because I have been wanting to do something with bitcoin and the bunker. At the moment though we are at a crossroads and we have started a crowd fund to allow others to get involved and help us get through. I would like to offer some kind of bitcoin related perk to start with some bitcoin stuff. Some have suggested hosting, others a wallet service. Both have variables that make it difficult to peg down a single or at least a handful of perks.

So I am looking for any feedback on ideas for what we might introduce as a bitcoin offer as part of our crowd fund that is currently live. Sooner the better.. only 23 days to go.

Looking forward to your responses.

Thanks for your help!

Jonathan

Relevant Information:

Facebook Page for the bunker: http://www.facebook.com/Debert.Diefenbunker (http://www.facebook.com/Debert.Diefenbunker)
Indiegogo Crowd Fund Campaign: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-the-historical-fallout-shelter/x/4309142 (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-the-historical-fallout-shelter/x/4309142)

datacenter.

get a few high speed internet cables run to it and use it as a data center and secure co host location. as a result youll look appealing to bitcoin miners to

Thanks for your reply RW02.. We already have diverse multiple fiber uplinks going to the facility.

We are already building data center operations there. Our current business has been hosting for several years. My question was more specific in terms of what we can do that would be a good perk for bitcoiners.

As far as colocation goes, we are only going to offer managed services. Colocation of other hardware would be without any physical access to the data center node. Not only for security, but to keep it from becoming contaminated. We need to comply with ISO standards for clean room operations in order to maintain Sun and Cisco warranties.

I'm not really sure what you mean by a "perk" but if your interested in hosting mining equipment you may want to shoot DZ a pm from this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325618.0
He sets up groupbuys and he currently has a hosting facility that seems to be working out great but I'm sure he is always looking for more space especially since he seems to be expanding his operation soon.  If nothing else he would be a good resource to bounce ideas off of since he has successfully set this up.

Host a big mining rig and sell Hash.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2013/11/05/this-swiss-cryptocurrency-trader-will-store-your-bitcoin-in-a-nuclear-bunker/

http://glari.ch/node/32

Hi Tripppn,

Sorry, it looks like my link to the crowd fund had been 'suspicious' and was removed. I added a direct link instead of using google redirect. If you look at what a crowd fund does.. it allows people to get involved with a project that they want to get behind.. in exchange a 'perk' is often offered that gives some kind of value back to the contributor.

Once we are in full production of course we will be doing hosting. Until we get there though I am looking for a way to bring bitcoin into our crowd fund. Perhaps aligning with some kind of group buy to sell hashing wouldn't be a bad idea.

Will PM like you suggested.. thanks!

So is your suggestion for the crowd fund to basically make it a group buy to sell hash?

Someone showed me this article recently. Pretty cool... Our specs would be a little more extensive than this.. but similar I guess.

 How did you start a crowd funding endeavor without knowing what you want funding for?    I don't understand what the point of storing anything but yourself in a nuclear bungee l bunker is.

Hello cp1,

We know exactly what the funding is for.. it's detailed rather extensively in our crowd fund. The question stems from potentially making the crowd fund  more appealing the bitcoin holders rather than just credit card and paypal. With that of course, we want to offer something that would be useful as well... like some of the ideas that others have offered.

The point of storing anything in a nuclear bunker is security to put it simply.

So back to the thread.. do you have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Hi Vod,

Fair enough.. the Forbes story mentioned earlier here just posted asking if anyone following the bunker actually uses Bitcoins.

Confirmed?

The Forbes story on the Nuclear Bunker that is storing Bitcoins. It's the latest story with the Swiss lady singing in the mountains. Kinda weird image to lead with on that story... but there it is.

Yes.. we just posted that story to the page. The Forbes story.. after you asked I posted it as confirmation. Seems like confirmation enough without getting too evasive and sending out image change updates. You can also simply send a message to the page and see if the reply you get says we are who we say we are.

For additional verification.. just made a comment in the same story which we also posted as the page administrator of an image of a bitcoin. Again, trying not to be too evasive and simply working it into the current discussion.

You see the posts being made are by the page administrator.. thats us. Ok.. will just make a lame comment following the bitcoin image comment saying.. 'Fallout Complex is going to be awesome!'

Hope this suffices.

Comment made directly under the fallout complex is cool comment.. verify asap.. thanks.

Ok.. that's fine.. in the mean time you have any suggestions on the thread topic relating to bitcoin and a possible 'perk' offering through the crowd fund?

I have confirmed that this bitcointalk user is the owner of that Facebook page.  :)

This subject interests me because I am also building a survival community in Northern Alberta.  

I don't currently have any ideas other than hosting bitcoin miners... especially if you have the internet connection.

Accept bitcoin for your hosting and have a script for bitcoind on vps's!

Hi Nahtnam,

I have looked at a few doing that. We haven't done much testing with it to determine what kind of resources would be required. Certainly something we will look at once we have our initial network up and running. What would you like to see?

Thanks!

Nothing else. I guess you could also run game servers?

How does one own something like that?  :o

The best thing that bunker can do for Bitcoin is probably to set up a couple of nodes and some miners. That makes Bitcoin resistant to nuclear bombs which is pretty cool and no small feat. If you want to do more for Bitcoin you can make the node into a "supernode" which is connected to hundreds or thousands of peers and thus increases the speed of the network.

Futhermore, you could sell hosting in your datacenter for bitcoins. That would also be a valuable addition.

You could also buy tens or hundreds of ASICS, start a Bitcoin mining company, and sell shares in the company. But that only makes sense if your electricity prices are low, I think.

I don't know.. kind of amazing I got this now.

You don't know how/why you own it?

No.. I know why..  your question of 'how does one own' seemed more directed as to the question of how you can go about buying and owning bunkers etc. The answer to that is I don't really know.. I managed to get this one and that's the extent of my experience. I am not in the business of searching out and buying up bunkers.. so to answer 'how does one own something like that?' .. simply I don't know.

Read his crowdfunding page:

"On November 21, 2012 this historical Cold War Diefenbunker went up for tax auction and I became the proud new owner of the facility after the six month redemption period expired May 21, 2013. Well, almost." http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-the-historical-fallout-shelter

Won't hit the goal though.

Make a secret database/darknet base and keep it for yourself.
Don't sell to no government.

Orrrrr install tor servers and run the next silk road! :P

Why restrict it to Bitcoins? Rent out " safe hosting space " etcetera: an extremely safe place for people who want to host data, sites or anything alike against a competitive price.

Thanks for that LaudaM ... way to win friends.

Perhaps you could have said.. you need help reaching that goal.. here is what I can offer.

bitcoin convention space

Thanks for this Tazmo.. that's exactly part of what we are doing. Thus why some of our perk offerings on the crowdfund are cloud storage.

Our data security node once served NATO.. so thats not an issue. We already have fiber into the building.. and benefit from nearly free cooling with our location offering a lot of free air.

There are some gov opportunities in this region I know of actually. The market is severely under served.

This is all a given.. my question really had to do with the crowd fund and bitcoin. Thus far I am getting the impression I should make the crowd fund some kind of group buy to have the operation hosted at the bunker, and also serve the bitcoin network as a supernode.

Perhaps depending on how we fashion the group buy we will host it free for an entire year or something like that. Thoughts?

Thanks!

offer dedicated servers and VPS.

Anyone can pay anonymously via bitcoin and get a fully anon account.   only signup requirement:  a billing email address.  Or even better: make the billing email optional.  In that case, it is up to them to make regular payments before the cutoff deadline each month.  Offer reasonable prices.

If they violate TOS or do not pay monthly fee, you shut them down.

To my knowledge, no one presently offers such a service (at least not affordably) but bitcoin makes it possible.

Call it "OffTheGrid Hosting".

And offer super secure and low end boxes for any type of digital currency!

Haha, yes. That would be a good name! But do focus on bitcoin more than other alt currencies.

So I want to be clear.. you are suggesting I should offer dedicated servers and VPSs as part of my crowd fund perks and give them that anon option with bitcoin?

I thought there was dozens of bitcoin accepting hosts out there already. What about this you are saying is not being offered as a service? More important question might be why such a service might not be offered.

Thanks for your feedback!

I've fixed this for you, as obviously you have never participated in any big illegal business if any at all.
You mister have no clue what you're talking about.

While I understand being anonymous on the Internet (what ever that means) you 'think' you are protecting yourself.. but Tazmo is right... in the end you are marginalized with that type of stuff.. and lose any and all support from the public.

You lose money, you lost nothing
You lose a friend, you lost something
You lose family, you lost a lot.
You lost your name, you lost everything.
 - Chinese Proverb.

I operate by this code... so while I know a lot of people around here like to look like big bad ass underground big pimp'en mo-moneymoney gangstas, it all amounts to nothing without a name.

So yeah, legitimacy in our business operations matters. How do you trust a data center operation who is willing to do criminal activities? If they can do that, there is no way they are going to honor any kind of SLA for the services you rely on them for.

As for the big money.. just our current plan for data center operations could generate tens of millions in revenue, and make this piece of Canadian history something everyone can look on and be proud of. Go the way you suggest and maybe there is tens of millions? I have only heard of drug, weapons, and human trafficing doing that.. the risk reward makes it all seem really ridiculous to consider.. Gladly take the tens of millions and make everyone happy at the same time.. and not lose our name.

It's for smart people so it's understandable. Let me get this straight, if you do have a good plan/tactic on covering your tracks, it could take years and years before they can make you a potential suspect/possibly never. It's just up to you.

Next: that Chinese proverb is incorrect. It's dependent on the person.
Flip the list backwards and that's how it is for me.