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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap.
Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself  :-*

It's possible sure. But we've seen a double bottom at around 6000, and furthermore the last drop to the 6000s stayed around there in the 6000s/7000s for a few weeks and volatility dropped, indicated that the price discovery for bitcoin's bottom was seemingly at an end. It's bottom was discovered so the price volatility dropped a bunch and it hung out there for a while. Now we are getting the boost off that bottom. This is likely the start of the inflection point from bear market to bull market. Not that is gonna go straight up, I expect it to take a couple of months to really put this floor behind Bitcoin and get back over $10k (though it could happen quicker). I think we've likely seen the end of challenging the floor in the 6000s. The rest of the year will probably be a gradual and rocky climb back to $20k.

Two months to reach $ 10,000 is a lot. I think in two months, the price will be around $ 15,000. At the end of the year we will have a price of 25-30K dollars. This year will be successful for bitcoin. The most difficult period we have experienced. Now you can relax and enjoy the flight to the moon.

Spoken like someone untethered to reality. There will be many ups and downs during this flight to the moon. As the market is just starting to turn around the true upwards momentum is unlikely to start for a while. Sure bitcoin could hit $10k in the next few weeks, but it could easily drop to $8k again after that. The road will not be smooth. It will almost certainly take a lot more than two months to achieve a price sustainable over $15k. Many people in the market still think bitcoin will head lower. In fact if it did reach $15k in two months that would be a very strong sell signal in order to buy in a few thousand dollars lower on a drop from that quick rise. It will take months before a bullish sentiment totally takes over the market again.

It will always be different in every phenomenon, we will not fall into the same hole. Even if we fall, we will pull to one side from the same hole. Scenario will always be different. If it same, the audience connoisseur of the show will be bored with all the scenes.

I consider little of the price of cryptocurrencies to be set by the scenario, it is impossible to do any regulations from several countries, the regulations of social media and the Mt.Gox scenario are impossible to do. We are actors, every step we set in such a way by the director. In essence, as an actor we have to enjoy everything that happens, bull trap is the best scenario for them and we will enjoy it.

It should also be feared and most likely it can happen, but it is undeniable that the current increase is different from the increase experienced several months ago, I am more confident in the volume of increasing demand that lead me to believe that this bitcoin is real no-one's intervention, bitcoin attracts many investors who have been watching and taking part in the present, pessimistic is not a good way for smarter people. Whatever happens I eat all the risks.

The difference this time is that the price of gold is rising due to geopolitical concerns, and some investors are treating bitcoin as digital gold, which is why it is rising too.

I believe that when the price goes up for now reason it will always going to have the opposite hit, same for the other side.
But because bitcoin is being controlled by huge manipulators, we can't really know if the recent sudden jump is because manipulators held the price down for few weeks in order to collect some bitcoins at a low price range and they suddenly released it and it made the market to get crazy.

It seems to me that if you believe in the future of cryptocurrencies, the manipulation of whales can not force us to sell their coins. You make that decision for yourself. But I like that there are such failures on the market. This always gives the opportunity to buy coins at a low price for those who believe in the revival of bitcoin.

So what kind of rise should we expect to not think that this will all be another trap? The fact that we can't be too certain about these things implies that this rise could be different from the $7200 -$ 9200 rise last time, but considering what you said, y'all should always be careful and not get carried away easily by this rise. Always think if you are doing the right thing to that you will not regret it later.

If people expect this to be the start of a recovery for bitcoin and phase into a bull market, this is obviously not the starting point.

This rise is definitely legit and it's very good for short term traders to profit from. In fact I do think that we're probably going to go higher with this rally, most likely to $9k+ before any real pullbacks. That doesn't mean this is going to result in bitcoin all of a sudden skyrocketing, and setting a new all time high again.

A small pump like this isn't enough to set the trend to bullish, from a full blown bear market.

I think that once this pump is over, we'll be back with a bearish market, and we'll recover during Q3-Q4 instead of now.

I actually want this theory or whatever you want to call it to be true. I want to see the sick little bastards to sit in the corner and cry for days. Don't get me wrong but these shitholes panic sellers are pissing me the hell off. Now you can continue your legit discussion.

Well, this pump is definitely different from the last one. The price had stabilised completely before this started.

But still, I think you've got a point here. I simply don't see sufficient bullish momentum for this to actually turn out to be the end of the bear market. Or at least, I'd be extremely surprised to see it. People should take a step back and realise that even in bear markets, pumps like this do happen. But it doesn't signify the end of the bear market, at all.

I think that after this rally we will continue dipping, until the effective support at $6k-7k is hit. Right now a lot of people are buying because they think this is the start of bitcoin skyrocketing again - it's just not happening this early on in the year.

people are always looking for ridiculously huge rises in a very short time. that  doesn't make them come true. so of course this is not the rise these people were looking for. but we are not going to always get what we wish for.

for now i am mostly with @thecodebear on this. we have seen a double bottom and lots of dump trying to break the buy supports which all failed. the price is rising and will probably continue rising slowly like this. it may take a while longer than expected to reach back to above $10k levels but this here is seems to be the start of it for now unless something unexpected changes about it.

You can not really predict this market and make good business decisions is hard even now that the market is behaving uncertainty. We should be careful as this looks like some people are manipulating the market.

OP, hello there. 8)

I agree. This might be nothing but one more of the bull traps that we have been seeing since the "great fall of December". But again, it could also be the beginning of a small recovery. There are whales that do not want Bitcoin to fall and stay below $6000 it seems.

Plus nothing about Bitcoin's movements was "natural" in my opinion, too volatile and pumped and dumped.

True, you can't time the market and that's why if you want to buy then always buy in a small quantity and wait for some time to see how markets will move. If go up then just enjoy your profit but if go down then you can buy some more to average down your buy price. Don't ever buy all at once. Now it is very difficult to guess whether markets really moving up and bull traps.

This might not be the rise we were looking for, but truly it is the beginning for the price pumping. In particular what we are making is just the predictions and the positive support as it is completely an speculative asset. Without doubt we can say that bitcoin will grow which is the promised fact.

This might not be the rise that we are looking for but this is positive because the recovery phase is on the go.
Right, they seem to like the pump however they don't want it to fall since most of their investments are gathered altogether to bitcoin.

I think this is very very optimistic speculation, given the fact that around summer time the G20 recommendations on crypto regulations are going to start pouring in, and this will begin a whole new market volatility. We've just taken 2 and half months to recover from a shock just created by FUD. Imagine how much longer it will take to recover from actual government recommendations/implementations. 

actually I personally look for a rise that come about by rising gradually and not suddenly like this. most likely, if it rises with a quick spike like this, a sudden crash always looms at every rate of its price. but, hopefully what I say is wrong and the price will continue to increase despite the very sharp spike. the rise of $ 1000 yesterday just made me shocked and happy, but what will last long? hopefully, always the natural and best gift that always received bitcoin.

So what you mean is , theres this whale who controls and manipulates the bitcoins price just to make its investors confused and try to make their investment lost? I was thinking, maybe its not just a single guy but some organizations who profits from doing these. Whether its just the real rise or it is, for now, i just want to be happy for its value.

It isn't one single entity manipulating the market. In order to steer the market up or down properly, whales operating on each main exchange pool their efforts together to book consistent global results. It can almost considered to be a whale cartel being responsible for the manipulation we are going through. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's definitely not one single entity behind the scenes ruling this market with iron fist.

It definitely did result in a sentiment change, which is a positive development, regardless of how sustainable or not sustainable current increase is. Even the mainstream media has lowered its negative tone. People gain confidence in markets when the price is increasing for a longer period of time, and if we manage to hold on to this growth, more people will pull the trigger and start buying, especially when fomo starts kicking in.

Probably the case with most people here. Those who are vocal anyway. Past performance has untethered people from reality. Bitcoin confounded even the most prudent estimations in 2017, left guys like me afraid for the crash that eventually came, and then the miserable hope of incredible and speedy recoveries.

Worst thing is, it will probably come, and then they'll forget the pains of today. Sorry for the victim, no sympathy for the fool.

Well that's not always the case. Bitcoin spiked to $5k around September last year, and never actually looked back if you ignore what happened with the massive China ban hysteria. $8k is pretty low compared to what we've already once maintained, and much more so compared with what we've already reached, so I do hope we don't go lower anymore.

That being said, I'm not the least bit convinced that we're out of the bear market, though I would love to be proven wrong.

An increase is an increase no reason to be negative with what just happened.. Why does we keep ourselves from proving that it can’t possibly be another signs of bullish run.. I do invest in such signal and if it’s a trap then wait and hodl then life’s goes on..

Even if this rise won’t continue or may stop eventually.. It’s not the rise we are looking for?? Maybe.. But in this case it’s better than nothing..

It really depends on what you're looking for, I agree that this is not the great rise in the price that many people are waiting I do not even need to look at the charts to know that, I do not see any reason why the price could pump so high so fast, will the price go any lower? Probably, but I do not see it going that much lower than 6000 dollars.

The main thing here is that no one knows what is happening right now -- people just play the guessing game and more than that can't be done. The only thing that would make sense, is that the end of the tax season means that we may be up for another increase soon, or we have that increase priced in already due to the recent spike up. Good thing however is that the long term looks bright, so if we happen to go down again, at least make sure you use the lower price in your advantage to keep accumulating well below the $10,000 levels -- these levels won't be present for ever, so consider it to be a spring sale. Don't let yourself be that loser always regretting that you haven't bought when you still had the chance.

Yeah definitely this is not the price we were looking for, but we can wait for some more time and I am sure that the price will hit 20000 dollars in the future, and those investors who have lost their money due to low price will be able to recover their lost money. I am also waiting for good times. It will take time but to make some money needs patience.

Indeed, this is not the pump that we are waiting for that we expect a rise up that if possible will continuously sky rocketing without exemptions but these roller coaster performance is in favor of sell high and buy it low strategy in which some traders will gain a lot of it. We just hope that soon the rise that we are really looking for will going to start on this quarter as per predictions of most of the famous experts.

It does look like some traps, but behind that., certainly still providing good opportunities for the long term and not worrying about such considerations. Of the many people certainly have their respective views and will not judge easily because there are still many things that can affect it will be more up or as before. We are already familiar with it., of course, have prepared a certain plan in holding or more directed to trading efforts.

In my opinion yes this is not what i was waiting. My prediction was more bigger and higher levels.
But thats fine if we don't drop below 6000 usd and this is a lead indicator that shows us market is growing and rising.

I think that the price will remain constant for some time, from constant I mean that it will increase some dollars and then will decrease with the same ratio. But till the end of the year it will jump high and as high that it will reach to 25000 dollars till the end of the year. Many people are expecting the same and are waiting anxiously for good times.

What i think is that we have passed the worse period of this year in the last quarter but now the market is again coming on to its right path and now we will not witness any such dumps until a period of year like price dropping to $6000 from $19000 but we might witness normal dips.Earlier when price was rising i also thought that it might be a trap for a normal pump and them dump situation but everything seems under control and market is turning green as all alts and btc are rising with 10-15% surge.So just stay calm and wait for the actual pump which is going to come soon and prices will reach peak level by the last of year.

This is most expected by many for a bull market but the expectation as always did'nt meet. Since were already seen behind the fluctuations we must understood the flows that it might trap or the rise we are looking for may continues on pump level. Yes so whatever the market will be preparation should be made for our coins and that is holding as we can.

You just have to be used to it and don't think too much. Obviously we don't know literally the exact thing that is happening on every trend as different people have different views and perspective about buying and selling. Current price swings behaviour will surely established a noticeable rise but on the other hand, we must expect that opposite of it might happened too.

At the first place, why think of that? It will just lead for too much confusion resulting in difficulty to execute a strategy.

People just have to "trust the process" on the way.

An Increase is an increase, that's true for the very short term- as after the price increased you can sell your assets in a profit, but for the long term this sudden rise is not really healthy, as it doesn't attached to any reason and because of that, it will probably bounce back soon enough.
And after bouncing back, the voltality rate of bitcoin will be increased with the trust rate in the asset.

For the long term- I doubt if an increase without a reason which is a result of a total speculation is good, but for the short term it's good, no doubt.

People often fail because they listen to the noises rather than look for a definite signal. Those who over-complicate things end up being the losers, while those who look at simple and precise strategies end up being the winners. It's helpful to look at past movements and all, but thinking that it will fall of at the exact same pattern clouds one's judgment and might lead to bad calls. That's why I don't employ the use of telegram channels that claims to give off positive 'signals'.. ::)


Which is kinda scary since you have no control over such a thing. They can screw you up without you even knowing because you are "trusting the process" too much.

I guess many are just bitter because probably they don't know the real story and about bitcoin just because they always hear bad situation about bitcoin. What's good in it is that the more the put issues on bitcoin the more people get intrigued on it and popularity arise to mass media. I'm not looking for it to rise that fast,I know time is always important so I'm always looking forward to have full and stable patience with me. I can wait for it to rise, no worries with it. It takes time to rise.

We expect more about cryptomarket especially with bitcoin but we must also understand the time, this market will not go high within a day, it will take more time. I'm happy to see cryptos to be stable on their current price, waiting for some higher signal.

expecting $500-1000 collapse in a few days or any moment. Probably %10-15 profit are being gained for every loop. Previous loop was 10 days long so this one should be same or less. When the manupulator finishes 20k btc that he bought last week he will spend last a few thousand for totally drop the price. After dropping price he may try to stable price it to there for convincing people this is the new level. Then people will put selling orders just above the new level . When this orders total is enough for manipulator he will again buy them and start 3. loop.

I am happy Bitcoin has started growing now and will grow more. Tell me who do not want to be a millionaire but all you need is to wait for some more time as to cost the opportunity for getting profit. The market today is going between 7500 thousand dollars and 8500 thousand dollars and is very good from its fall few months ago. We are happy if we are here in the market I think that is enough, we know that getting profit opportunity is here.

if you are a big investor and you want to in btc you want buy from low values, and also you dont want to rise the value of it because you are buying and buy cost will rise, so you just want it to rise after you boguht, but we see here steep rise that is not an investor type buy, he should buy with time slowly and gently because big numbers effects market and this effects buying cost, so this should be a manupulator move which trying to convince people it is rising. he sells you from high values then drops the value with all btcs to another deep for collecting from low. İf you cant see it just look at past how its happened nearly every month a few times since december and also for years, all these steep rises concluded with steep falls. if you look graphs you can see this. İf you dont want to look and see and continue buying you are small fish for a big fish moving  around. As he rises another steep so we are close to finish.

That's the reason why I'm very cautious. It may be another trap... or not. Some time the trend will change and bitcoin will rise to new heights, but no one knows when. Market manipulation is too obvious.

Well what rise are you expecting? Same one as last december? It's the first time btc went up that high in a short span of time. And if you're looking for the same price spike to happen again soon, you might get yourself disappointed.

Why should we look at graphics. The rise now is much more steady and slow than the January boom. For me it's like natural and people are much more confident now.

I think it will even continue in next few weeks!

I doubt it. I belive it will reach 9500-10000, before crashing to 6000-7000 again.

But it doesn't matter because on a long term, it wil go up.

There already was a steady and slow rise from $5.9k to $12k. Then it crashed fast to $6.5k.

Well, I think it will continue to rise in the coming weeks and I think this is the time of the rise that were looking for. When you look at the price it was steady and slowly moving up. So good to hold for bitcoin and embrace this moment it will going up for sure.

But still we shouldnt yet too confident with it  because there is still a chance that this price hike will decline again and it is too early to start celebrating because the value is not really big at all but atleast this slight increase do give us a confident and a perseverance in order to keep going and pursuing our own dreams. these may not the rise that we are looking for but lets hope that is the start that we'v been looking for.

We cannot really say this time if this is the rise were looking for. Yes actually manipulation is always presents in the market, others are too much believes that rise is sure coming but actually we did'nt know yet if this the rise yet I am hopeful so I can earn.

Well, we cannot predict the price always, so one thing should we do when our expectations does not met and that is to make promote bitcoin to our friends and family too, that they should kept what they do have or invest some if they are not yet investing on it.

The real increase in the price is not a jumping one and we are not looking for such a rise in the price. When we observe that the price is increasing gradually instead of falling then it will be in fact rise in the price. 7K to 9K, then 6K and now 8K. What is this? This is just a foolish thing. Nobody likes such a worse fall and rise in the price. We need natural increase.

The price looks creepy anyway,  the price keeps jumping from high then low and low then high.  The price seems like it increasing but if you are going to look in the history,  this doesn't look good.  The price jump higher and faster and it also shows that it can dump very low and fast also.  I also think that this is not the price we have been waiting for,  we might be excited with the current price hike but we should still contain what we are feeling because anytime the price might dump again.  

Anyways,  I am still thankful that the bitcoin price is increasing.  Atleast it increased and give us hope to continue holding our bitcoin.

The thing here is that we have actually seen rise like this in the past which obviously seems like the beginning of a sweet ride, but then we ended up seeing the market getting pretty dumped back than we can imagine.

Nevertheless, let us just keep the hope high that this may be the rise, but at the same time, imagine anything can also happen. So far, it feels the market really wants to get moving, but with the lot of resistance above us and the possibility of bears somewhere around the corner, I would not be so sure.

I really want to hope this is the case considering how volatile the market may be. Double bottom or not, I know the long term is still intact as we have a lot of growth to watch out for but for the short term, I honestly just want to keep an open mind to anything knowing how the market has reacted in the past and even after seeing some level of breakout, we still ended up seeing some huge pull back, and I hope this would not be another scenario of same thing happening.

Another thing is that the news had become decidedly more positive recently. In Jan/Feb there was bad news hitting on a weekly or quicker basis (ad bans, hacks, regulatory stuff, country bans, etc). Right now the only news I see recently is just predictions by financial people and basic reporting on the price movements. Even good news earlier this year was getting gobbled up in the news by the bad news. Now the news itself is pretty neutral and sentiments seem to be positive and that the market as a whole is ready to start growing again.

I no doubt expect some pullbacks, but not severe pullbacks - not bear market stuff. Maybe we'll see a pullback to low 8000s before bitcoin moves to $10k, but I don't see any reason to think it's gonna drop back to under $8000 let alone $6000s. The rest of this year (or most of the year) is probably analogous to 2016 - gradual buildup back to the ATH.

I agree in part with this, I really do not think that the growth that we are seeing is going to be very significant, the price is close to $9000 right now but I do not see it going above it there are simply too many people selling and that is what is stopping bitcoin to surpass that price, this is why I think that we need to be more patient because we are not going to see a huge growth right now.

This is the main thing that one should invest that money in bitcoin which is not needed in short term because if he wants to make money from his investment he will have to wait for long term. The price is growing gradually and I am sure till the end of this year it will hit $25k. Bitcoin is not for short term investors besides they can choose any regular business for their investment.

I quite agree with you; we can't be very sure.  I remembered well that last month beginning , there have been a similar scenario where there was a dip and then the price went back to $9k though, it didn't last like the recent.  Aside from major whale manipulators, there are super excited traders who would rush and sell off to make few gains without being patient enough to wait for the bigger opportunity.

All the predictions about the price of bitcoin till date didn’t come true and many investors disheartened with their investment, but we should keep one thing in mind that investment in bitcoin should be for long term and you must be patient because in short term it may result in loss but you will have to wait to earn money from your investment in bitcoin.

Yeah the resistance is always there threatening us and they are just waiting for the best time to dump their coins but somehow why really happens now is a good sign that we are now much better than the previous months. Let's be positive about this movements and hope that we are all in a common goal to going up.

I think this movement of price increase is much better than falling price..Instead of stating negatively on this we ought to appreciate it as it is nd hope that it will continue to rise..so far it is almost a month since the price is moving up those it thus not reach our expectation this is way better than a falling price.

it started to cashout , its about the money he collected from this loop , he finished carrying price up probably cash finished, now will going to sell over and over, he will stop selling a little for small investors to think that drop is finished and will have more buying and buy orders after enough buy order piled up another drop will come for to wipe them.
This will continue till the manipulators btc's finish. When that time comes he will start another loop. This loop is ending , i am not sure it ll stop over or under where it started (6900 usd).it depends on money he collected. Last 3 loops finished lower than their starting points, so we can say it will go below 6800s according to stats.

There are so many predictions in the forum and around the web that some of them are bound to be true, what it's really difficult is to get your predictions right consistently to this day I have yet to meet a single person that is able to do that, and I don't think I am ever going to meet a person like that because to me trading is mostly a matter of luck no matter how much you study.

Yes, a good rising of a coin is supposed to be slow with a little bit up and down, a fast rising only going to caused a correction and people will look at the coin with negative view, so we need a small steady rising like the one that happened in this week, small green candle but resist for a long time

Slowly but will surely hit the moon in due time. Dramatic decrease seems will not last so long because we see the growth of price in the market. Wait patiently is the best way to do towards seeing in the proper time bitcoin increase.

You are just negative thinking what are you saying is when the bitcoin price increase all the time that guys is just that do it and as you expected the price of bitcoins will be decrease again so everytime the price increase you are negative thinker. You should do the trading for you to know.

I think this is the rise what everyone looking for that was happened a week before a huge bump of $1000 bump in the minutes made some good recovery all over the market,and after that bitcoin price moved to another level of above $9000 and I hope it will hit $10K soon in one or two days so keep investing on guys.

well, everyone is waiting for a price above $ 10000. many people feel that it is the ideal price for 1 bitcoin. well, bitcoin never passed that price, so maybe a lot of people have bought bitcoin under $ 10000, and are waiting for the right moment to sell the bitcoin.

it's really what you say with us buying lots of bitcoins and more patience to wait for the right time we can get a big advantage when our bitcoin is sold at a high price

The markets are so, they are volatiles and many people know this,  this is the main reason why they like this market, that arrives early, who has good eye to see when low is low and when high is high, is that has profits and more profit every day, who arrives late and does not do the proper research, then this person must wait until the price recovers in order not to have losses. this is a dangerous market and one should not buy and create high expectations that it will be rich quick


the biggest problem is knowing when is the right time to sell, for example has analysts who believe that the price could reach $ 250,000 in 2022, would that be a good time to sell? or will we sell for $ 20,000? this is the question, what is the right time to sell?

Obviously as this trend, many people will loss their money if they really don't know how play. Yeah, the desires of getting rich quickly isn't a good idea at all. Having crypto investment is just hoping for luck, hoping for a good market trend because the more it become known worldwide the more it become volatile. 

Exactly. If you don't know how to play around and ride the waves you will easily get burn, very fast. Specially in the last 3 months wherein we saw the price plummeted to its all time low.

Crypto investment is not for the weak of heart. You also need a lot of luck and of course don't sell when the price is going down. Patience is the key + timing. But if you are here to make quick buck, you are very wrong because you need to work you ass off and make the correct decision before making a lot of money.

Ofcourse it is not the price we are looking for a good and efficient price in the upcoming days. We have expected the price at the time of investment that get something from the market but as we know that it is a long term investment process and all we need is to involve with patience and nothing more so that we are going positively and wait for the returns we are expecting.

As I can guess, the market can become very volatile again. I am afraid that the red color will change the green one often again. Probably I am wrong (I hope).

Can be concluded as it is indeed but after reading from EdenHazard (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3326533.msg34763545#msg34763545) He is right we are actor and once again we will not fall on the same hole,otherwise BTC value so far is still good and this is the recovery period I think it will not go down as far 6K.Now until the end of the year there will be no further correction to it again and whales seem to be holding at a value higher than 6K.

From  the data of last few weeks we can see that the prices of bitcoin is increasing which is a good sign for the investors.But we all know this is not exactly what we all were looking for.We all are expecting a huge jump in the price but that type of rise  is still not seen for what we are looking for.Virtuality of bitcoin is the major reason.Nobody knows when the price will rise or when it will fall down.Within seconds changes in the price of bitcoin is happening.Hoping for the best that in coming days  it will jump as high as possible and will give us more and more profir.

First I also thought that this price pump is not real but when price were rising over few days then I feel that this is the real pump because it was already three months for the price dips occurring regularly. But still this is not the real surge which is still to come by Q3-Q4 of 2018 so just stay calm and hodl your btc for long if you want huge profits.

Maybe not the rise we wanted in BTC but the rise in alts surely is what we wanted. You might have to hodl your BTC a little longer to have a breakout worth watching (because the best 10 days of last year made up most of Bitcoin gains, and I doubt this year will be different), but if you want to see alts takeoff the time is now.

I am not looking for this rise but happy with it because we know in general that drop and drop make an ocean so this little increasing contributes to the overall market value of Bitcoin. Therefore I am happy as it is a positive sign we should not be panic while looking at the market every time since this is a long term investment so be patient while making decisions.

Bitcoin is getting manipulated hard with these 100-200 point jumps and drops in just a few mins. It needs to be regulared ASAP!

This rise is also good for those who have invested at low market in the last month because they have invested at low price and now the price is stable around 9k dollar and if they sell their coins they will get profit and if they want to keep for more time then it is also good for huge profit in the future. However the price we are expecting in the price higher from its last highest jump.

More than the rise it is the stability factor that one must consider. Market had crashed badly and revival from there was hard. This revival has ignited hope in the minds of all the potential investors right there. This gives them hope that even if BTC is dying, there would eventually be a revival and their money wouldn't get wasted or zero.

I am writing this because a lot of people had lost faith after the January first week fall. They thought that the bubble was over, but now that the price is getting better every passing day and being maintained, people are actually considering investing again.

We can't avoid such phenomena that was happen last January because not al of us are holders. And we already know price will always change from time to time especially this is crypto wherein sudden movement can be  happen anytime either up or down. As of these moment, probably more people will start to invest in crypto since it started to rise again and people's belief about crypto will become strong again.

Maybe this is it because its already surpassed $9,500 price value and still running to reach the $10,000 mark. We hope that there is no more interruption that it will not to fall again to $8,000 and that it will hit the ATH mark within this month in which if this will happen then it will be the sign of the a long awaited bullish run.

But after the growth,another dump,then same scenario over and over,just like this day while bitcoin almost reaches $9,800 then stopped..how many time do we have to see this pump and dump market..are they really manipulator?as the pattern almost the same,they will pump to encourage investors and when they bite the bait,then the price will suddenly drops again..wish to see some rise that constant for even just for two weeks

Well this had been happening for years and yet people aren't accustomed with the fluctuations of prices.  As what @carlisle1 said,  after a growth,  there will be another dump.  This is just the volatility acting up and if you have weak  hands,  you will always end up losing to the volatility.  As traders,  we should learn how to manage emotions and our investments effectively. Bitcoin and  cryptos are already complicated because of volatility,  you'll only make it more complicated if you won't understand the concept of volatility.

Not complicated if you are knowledgeable to make use of those volatility. It is not a big science to understand how to make profits with fluctuations of bitcoin price levels. All we need to believe into the futures of bitcoin then on every dump you will keep buying. Only those who are is hesitating about the futures of bitcoin getting suffered when bitcoin prices are finding downfall and all those who are ready to hold for long period, simply enjoying the rides.

All the long term holders are looking for prices to set new all-time high price levels. But we cannot expect that to happen within a day or two. We must give it some time to get more power to do so. I believe prices are around $10k must be the right price as of now and bitcoin will get more higher prices in coming days based on how many new investors are getting into board.

aaand its gone  :-*
and also have way to lower prices.

it is falling with steep angle and we are now very near to the start of the loop.
I am sure a lot of people around still wondering why it is falling, just read topic from start maybe you can get it  :-*
and do not worry it will rise again , i was saying it will drop while it was rising fast and i can say it will rise again after loop completed just as a month ago. Just we cant know exactly turn price and loop long but we can know it will happen.
i expect trend turn from 5-6k but it depends on manips bag.

Bitcoin make happy and then the price go down again, people start to worry again but we can't do anything except hold because we still believe in bitcoin and we are really hope that bitcoin Will rise again soon. We never know how long we have to wait but I believe the support we provide to bitcoin Will make us success to gain profit.

This is not the rise as investors invested for maximum profit and this maximum profit is possible if investor invests for long term. After a long term holding procedure we can enter into the high market but the current market is not a high market and is not favorable for selling and making profit as the market value is below 10k dollar and this market is more favorable for buyers.

Not so long that we are in dip crisis, though we think that it is the same thing happen in the previous years but it really makes hard to recover. The uptrend motion of market price seems to be slowly and it looks like it isn't enough to say that we are in full recover. And I may think that some investors are still in loose, not preferable of selling but good for buying more coins.

I believe that after the bloodbath the market will have to take some time for stabilization. Only after this period, not earlier than in 2-3 month the coins' growth will start.

Big whales are responsible for ups and downs in the price. But I think now the price is little bit stable and there are now huge bump and dump in the price. All is normal now and according to market cap. I think this is the best time for investment in bitcoin because the price will grow more and more in the near future and existing investors will be happy with their investments.

there were some allegations that some time back people were able to manipulate the price of bitcoin using an exchange using their huge bag of coins

but seems these guys are no longer around as prices lack that vigorous jump that excites the crypto community.

Maybe the days of big movements is coming to an end ::)

Hmm. Pretty much obvious the whole rise thing was more like a trap for the bulls to kick in and have a filled day. The way things are going, I would not be surprised if we ended up going even lower in coming months or days. The selling impulse is increasing pretty fast and the possibility of even getting to see any huge increase is not something anyone should even be considering yet in the short term until further notice. This market is really not ready for the bulls yet.

Yeah I want to be millionaire and I know that cryptocurrency investment is not for short term. I will to wait for long time to make handsome profits from my investment. The price will no doubt grow more in the near future and those who do not sell their holding in time of panic will be awarded with big earnings. I am also waiting for those days.

Resurgencing topic again because same think is happening, price is rising and everbody is hoping that ti will fly to the moon, yes i think it will fly to the moon but not with this rise, there are some sign of a giant rise and we are far from it now, so what will happen next month is an intermediate loop becoming from mini loops, it may rise to 8-9k then fall to where it starts. As this topic opened nearly nobody believed what i said only %10 of users seems supporting but it was obvious for me just like now. Manipulator is convincing people that price is rising with steep moves, free market can rise but not like this, free market should rise slowly , if it moves steep it is suspicious for me. again alot of people hunting news for an acceptable reason to that rise but it will end just like in july and this time intermediate trend may end in below the last bottom. But for a short time you can enjoy with rise.
 If you wonder how a giant rise come it simply come after volatilty ends and it took months to convince all investors to it will be historic , so dont expect too much thing from volatily.

I don't understand how you believe that you can speak with any kind of meaningful authority about what is going to happen in the near or medium future since the future remains a set of probabilities?

Perhaps, you have described a BTC price performance scenario that is amongst the greatest of likelihoods, but the future is far from determined and remains a product of knowns and unknowns.. that add up to a whole hell of a lot of difficulties to predict with any degree of certainty beyond a very short period of time.  So, acting as if you know what is going to happen in the future beyond stating probabilities, comes off as quite presumptuous, even if you end up being correct.

Everybody talks about future , so you will just look at the stats who comments better, who fails less, there is a lot of shittopics around here , they ask will it rise more after every rise or will it fall more after every drop. And then there are some comments with analysys and good predictions.You can choose whatever you want :)

Actually, this recent price pump is not natural. It is being highly manipulated by the whales and exchanges. Still, not many new investors are entering the market. hence, I expect this pump to retrace back to $6k levels. Bitcoin might be able to touch $7800, after that I expect a dump to $6800 at least. So, trade wisely here. Like it or not, this is a bull trap. The market hasn't yet entered in a trend reversal zone.

You can chose what you want, and you can comment about them too.  As you know, I chose to comment, which I frequently do when posters engage in descriptions containing absolutes.  Just because a lot of people do it, does not make it a good practice, and you can continue to do what you like, and I will continue to comment that I believe you are being inaccurate and/or misleading, when I believe that to be the case.

I largely agree that we need to take current BTC price rises with a fairly large grain of salt, and surely I will feel more comfortable once BTC prices get to the $10k testing territory - otherwise, current BTC prices remain too close to having the ability to retest lower end support.

Bitcoin will rise just like what happened last year so the best thing to do right now is jut invest while you still have the time in order to earn more profit in the future.

There is some boost from shorts which must close but also this bottom price and extended action meant the downtrend did not appear to be true any longer.     What seems quite bullish now is the upper prices here are just an old trend which was also upwards.   Its not really a ceiling, I think 7700 is quite likely as a proper target and then we can observe if any proper amount of selling occurs

https://i.imgur.com/JPZZcuR.png

The basic take away from this chart would be the pattern of higher highs.   So each peak on the chart is slightly ascending and I've just mentioning this is in line with an old uptrend channel.    I think the solid horizontal above is more likely where BTC price goes and must challenge

Totally depends on us, the holders and new investors. Unless we support it, reaching $10k is still far yet. As the past trends, it will take much more time, because people tends to panic and they will sell whenever they reach their buying price.

I don't know how you could reasonably believe that there is so much empowerment within "us" to be able to collectively control BTC's price direction because the sphere of "us" in crypto and bitcoin has been growing and growing and growing, so as the market cap grows, the means for liquidation of BTC and the number of adopters, it becomes harder and harder for any kind of "us" to really push the price direction.  Also, as the BTC adopters grow, it becomes exceedingly more diverse, and with a whole hell-of-a lot of mixed agendas and even confusion about what it is that they (we) are investing into, exactly, so in that regard, it seems to me that we have to accept that we are more likely followers of the market rather than makers of the market, no? 

Yeah, spread the word, blah, blah, blah, but bitcoin is going to do what it is going to do, and on an individual level, each of us has to attempt to prepare ourselves, as best that we can for our own situation, that either price direction could happen.. .well , that is UP, DOWN or sideways...  or some combination of them and not in any particular expected or self-created order.

Surely, several BTC holders, and more likely the longer term holders are not going to get tricked out of their coins, and they are going to be buying on the way down, and selling on the way up in order to prepare themselves to buy more in the event that the price goes down again.

There is a huge chance for the market prices to pump up again any time soon because people are starting to invest again today and the price is currently at $7k dollars.

in my opinion at this time can not be said for the increase of bitcoin price because currently the bitcoin price only rises temporarily and still can not trigger the increase up to the price of $ 20k again.

bitcoin prices are hard to predict and will have an ever-changing price, prices can go up and down anytime, so we should be able to really see the opportunity to earn profits and luck will also be with us

 It is hard to say if bitcoin is will rise everyday then suddenly fall. As of now, bitcoin price is increasing little by little. Hopefully, it is the start to rise the price until the end of this year. Let's just wait and see what will happen and its our strategy how we handle this kind of situation we can invest in bitcoin or altcoin while the price is low.

I agree, it's hard to predict the exact day the price will ris eor fall but in the end you do know one thing for certain and that's the fact that BTC will 100% rise to some insane heights if the market crosses the 200billion cap again.

Yes, you're right. Never expect too much on what you invest. Investing in crypto is like a gamble, you don't know whether you will win or loose in the end. So better to invest only what you can afford to lose. As we all know, bitcoin price is unpredictable. We are not sure if it  will continuously increase or not. For now, preferably HODLing is the best option while waiting for the price to reach at its peak.

The expected growth for the present time period is big, but the market didn't move as predicted. Now a small percent of growth has taken place after a long time period reaching around $7500. What we experience at present seems to be a start for the bull trend which will gradually grow further reaching big value.

Rise isn't bad as you say, it doesn't means bitcoin will fall soon and fall will be worse, even if it happens, that's the passion of trading. Also investing in crypto is really like a gamble but with this logic investing in USD/EURO/GBP is like a gamble too, why not? These currencies sometimes fall a little, sometimes rise, it's gamble but here risks are very, very low, can say the same about profit. That's why bitcoin is very risky, the more you invest, 100x more you profit or you'll end up loosing everythinf if you are nervous and can't wait.

The rise will always happen before the year ends so do not worry if the market price today is dumping because it only means that you still invest a huge amount in order to earn more profit when the market pumps up again.

I agree with you. Even if the price drops a little in the next month or so, the final value at the end of the year should be at least 10k or higher. The steady growth is something that we can expect and If you have money now is a good time to get in.

price again showed that was not the rise that goes to the moon.
last 2 months a lot fo people thought that it has a potential to rise, but it was obvious that this mid-trends are going down at the end.If this price doesnt correct in a few days that means we are going 4-5k in a few months.
Of course you can still continue your fairy tale "btc price is not predictable".

People still too much confident and expecting that bitcoin price will increase too much in next few weeks. The bitcoin price is still stick below 8000$ because of some new that are wondering in the market but I think that very soon this situation will come to an end and again we will see bitcoin price increasing its value.

Of course we do, why we shouldn't be confident and expect that bitcoin will increase soon?
I'm not saying about too much but it will be back on track.

It doesn't matter if it got stuck below $8,000 still its higher than $5,000 and we're not going to see it stay there forever.

Maybe that is what is happening now and it seems the whales are playing games here. If the price of bitcoin keep on making this type of corrections we may see bitcoin fall to $3,000 before end of this year.  Investors should also be careful as the whales are out to manipulate the market.

   It`s trap for get rich fast kind of people. They bought low but instead of huge rise, price raised only
$2000, and dropped again. Who didn`t sold on time will cut loses now and lose money.
   As investor I`m careful, even there are many threats I still hold. If Bitcoin price drop to $3000 and that is
more then 50% drop it will not be a first time. I will buy more on that price and wait my time for selling.
   Whales are manipulate with market, but how much they can manipulate exactly? And why would they
cut price in half? Is there some reasons for that, I don`t see any except buying more again when price drop
to have more Bitcoins in the end.