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The ice-dice guys keep spamming new threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.

The truth is that you will never be able to withdraw that as you have to wager 300 times that amount before being allowed to withdrawal. The rules are never clearly specified, they are just hoping that you visit their site. The latest topic is self-moderated, guess why ?

DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.

We are giving you free 0.005BTC. You guys are welcome to not to take our free coins and play with your own money. But if you play with our money, then we will have restrictions to keep fraudsters away.

Just. Stop. Lying. You are not giving anything, you are just luring people to your site.

I'll address this in a few points:

1. We aren't spamming from what I understand. We made a new thread that was set to self-moderation so we could more deal with trolls.

2. -- We are offering free bitcoin.

3. -- Yes you can

4. -- Alright. You got us there. We will work on fixing this.

5. -- In a way, yes. That's why we are running a giveaway...to promote our site.

6. -- That's up to you. If you feel that we are not trustworthy, then you do not need to play here. Never give a site you don't trust your money.

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I do apologize for it not being clearly specified. We are giving you a free .005 BTC to start with in your account so you can play with our site and give it a try before risking your own money. Honestly, what would be the point of just giving you Bitcoin? I love giving away bitcoins. I help run the reddit BitcoinTip bot. But we are a business. We are trying to promote our site and give users a chance to try us without risking anything but 5 minutes of their time.

I honestly do not understand how someone could even think we were just giving bitcoins "for lulz".

I will work with David on changing the promo pages so it is more clearly outlined. I'm sorry if we have hurt any of our users, and I am sorry if someone feels like we have cheated them or lied to them. That is not what we are doing or trying to do.

I am sorry. Honest, I am.

Idiot, you are. You are not offering anything, you are barely a sock puppet from the ice guy.

If you are really really giving bitcoins, and anyone has ever withdrawn that, I'm sure someone can post that transaction here ?

If you are really really giving bitcoins, I'm sure you can post all the 0.005 transactions. Where are they ? Obviously adding a 0.005 to a fake off the chain account is not giving bitcoins, it's just promoting your incoming scam to collect a larger amounts of bitcoins.

I addressed many points in my "idiotic text"

We are starting your account with .005 BTC in it so you can give the site a go for free. We are not giving you Bitcoin to just use however you see fit. We are giving you bitcoin to use on our site, so you do not have to risk anything. The point is not to withdraw it, the point is for you ti use it on our site. If you lose it, you haven't lost anything.

I am sorry if we somehow mislead you into thinking that we would just hand away Bitcoin for nothing.

So you just contradicted what you said earlier ? Good to know I'm even more right to create to this topic, will make sure to create in other sections when appropriated.

So by losing it I lose nothing, does that also mean the 0.005 you add to the account come from nowhere ? I don't expect you to either understand or honestly answer this, btw.



Fortunately you cannot mislead me with such bad lies.

 ::)

>> nice choice of words David ~ as you are committing wire fraud!  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

The .005 BTC came from our bankroll and is set into your account. If you lose, it returns to the bankroll from whence it came. If you win, you draw more from it.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying. I do hope you'll give us another try one day!

lets start with : WHO ARE YOU??!

I've said it before :)

I'm a neat guy from MI, USA

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

what's your NAME? What COUNTY do you live in? Who is your registering agent or a place to send Legal type stuff as I am one of your first "investors"   ..thanks in advance!...

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.

clearly explain why you never payed me out! and why you don't send me what you owe me? *imo*~Not cool to use bitcointalk.org and twitter.com(TWTR) to scam people!  :'(

Can you tell me again how I contradicted myself? Thanks.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you couldn't read. This http://www.talkenglish.com/Grammar/Grammar.aspx might help you, if you need more help on that please post in the trash can section.

ice-dice.com
(*explained!)

vvv*click*vvv
https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_150946.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65C7R_i2a8)

Thanks for the link! I'll check it out!

I see lying is your hobby indeed.

This guy is just a cheapo , look at the bankroll of the site and all the stuff . he just hate or don dare to lose , how will people play at a casino have a owner like that ? i wont ~

he wont lose btw on you who play on the site will lose

Our site is provably fair, we have no way to make our players lose. In fact, players have been winning quite a bit lately as our site profit had been shrinking.

Does ice dice offer automatic withdrawal on this giveaway or after the 300 times rollover is achieved the withdrawal is still subject for approval?

Don't worry, you won't ever withdraw.

I lost all in just 5 bets . :) . No one will be able to withdraw this giveaway.  

seriously the next mofo who says "provably fair" I will want to open a can of whoop ass!~did you not see the last screenshot i posted?..your site is all jacked up and you still owe me money from day one!! now keep it real!!!..you ain't fooling me or anyone else now pay up or kick rocks!!  :'(

Well it's a good thing you were able to give our site a go without losing anything! :)

i've lost money on your site to bugs and glitches !  ::)

Like?

are you joking or? deaf dumb and blind/// what do you think I've been ranting about for like a month now? you are in denial? wtfff?  ::)

I like the site, although that stupid .0005 promotion prevented me from withdrawing .03 coins due to me participating in the promo in the past.

My advice would be get rid of the promo cuz it's ridiculous.

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My advice would be get rid of the website(the way it's coded) cuz it's ridiculous!  ::)

Yep the promo looks like taking people to thier site and get some bankroll for him self , + website visitor pay may be some advertise payment too

Thanks for the heads up, this is misleading at best.

 X paired with their outright mean spirited attitude towards their "investors" is what really convinced me this a scam!  ::) 

Thats sort of the point..and we aren't running any ads on our site right now as far as I know.


Tell me again how we are a scam.

where are you at?  I'd like to tell you in person!  8) ~or what's your phone number? tia!

Tell me here? You wanna call me or meet me but won't email me? Hah.

yes and you didn't answer my email ! so let's be transparent here.
  >> i have nothing to hide!!  ::)  : SEND ME MY BTC !!!!

That's why you limit the amount of giveways you do, please check any actual giveway to see how it is done. There is nothing being given here.

Ice-dice itself is doing two giveaways, which are the same thing really. 1 is for Twitter users and one is for Bitcointalk users. I personally have also done a very small giveaway once before.

these guys are fly by night scammers i don't post emails so you don't know the whole story here! ~ they are scamming(*trust me)  ::)

Yes 1.5 BTC is a bit high.


You have never emailed me,despite me asking you to.

ice-dice.com owes me and you personally owe me..& i for one am sick of the outright bull$hit coming from you clowns!  :P

settle this here and now! wtf!!!  :'(

Okay. I will. Post proof of us scamming. Post proof of me owing you. Right here. Post proof that we are a rip off.

let's start here: you said you paid all the people from your personal twitter promo right?  ;D

(*note*)
>>liars & scammers in our bitcoin community get automatically rounded up to 1BTC when caught!

~>..this helps to deter future scamming!...<~

Yes. If you were not paid, I will pay what I owe

yes you now owe me 1 BTC  ;D ~ tia!!

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(*note*)
>>liars & scammers in our bitcoin community get automatically rounded up to 1BTC when caught!

~>..this helps to deter future scamming!...<~ "

Where is your proof that I did not pay you?

https://blockchain.info/address/1ExR58McuA4samEcMRkeVtckhBmdGLWuGL



 ::)

*you so liar!*

~now you owe me ONE= 1BTC !!!(case closed!)

Please send here ====> 1Ed1aEsA7RPLdo8np4oqQ1JY1KyHV8swMw

Link to your twitter post on my profile?

figure it out ~  check your first 5 followers!!!

Which one are you?

Xcross check the BTC addys/tweets ====>

https://blockchain.info/address/1ExR58McuA4samEcMRkeVtckhBmdGLWuGL


now my one bitcoin send here!~> 1Ed1aEsA7RPLdo8np4oqQ1JY1KyHV8swMw

Oh I see it. Can you send me a tweet with proof that it's you?

BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3729477032/ecb8949babaf22f50731bd5c28e06a33_bigger.png
\/\/ant me to go Steven Segal on your ass? WTFF!!!

http://www.aikidofaq.com/bilder/pix/s_seagal.gif

Always good to know that the person running ice-dice is a troll too.

Sure. Still waitin on that tweet.

I do not run Ice-Dice :) I work for the guy running ice-dice.

ok what do you what me to tweet? >> ICE DICE IS A SCAM ??

~ you lost the bet,  i proved you lied~ you now owe me ONE BITCOIN!!   ;D

Please send my ONE BITCOIN here ====> 1Ed1aEsA7RPLdo8np4oqQ1JY1KyHV8swMw


http://api.ning.com/files/*HLEuecomY*k8K88rC9BayWhwmurM3zX3gODjpNt9p4lxt03Imz8tJoPP7kDWln6GoocLXOKnY7Zdkqe39mq3HUOkD9ArA-C/aikidoquote.jpg

Always good to know that the person behind this is an idiot.

David is a pretty smart dude.


Whatever works for you, just mention me in the post

i'll tweet but the point is you lied!!
I've already proved that !  ::)  I'll tweet you a link to my friends ~
>>then you send me my 1 BTC !!!  :'(
 = done deal?..or should we keep going over this?



#edit====> SENT! *I encourage you to call them and ask them if i'm legit! =) LOL

Alright, I'm sending the amount I owe. None more. I apologize for any inconvenience.

yes =ONE BITCOIN!!! * NO LESS YOU FVCKING SCAM ARTIST!!!!

...or we keep going in circles with this!!!?...even that isn't anything considering 50BTC block rewards!!!


~~~~ok ok send me .5BTC(~half a bitcoin) in the next 30 minutes i'll drop it,,,
====> i'll give you freekin' chance to make this right!!!~~~zzz

Uh, no.

I'm not a scam artist if I gave you what I owe, which i did.

no you don't understand  YOU LOST THE BET!!! >> you need to send me 1 BITCOIN OR I WILL NOT QUIT!!!

+ STOP SCAMMING!!!

>>>MY FRIENDS IN THE LINK WILL HELP ME FIND YOU ~ HAVE YOU CALLED THEM YET TO VERIFY ANYTHING?

Sounds good.

thank you! i'm over pointing out the obvious !  ::)

also: PLEASE REMOVE MY IP ADDRESS FROM YOUR LOGS!!!

Just wow.

You guys are seriously complaining that you can't withdraw .005 btc that is handed away for free for site testing?  You selfish little infants.

The reason behind the giveaway is obvious.  In Bitcoin land, you don't just carelessly deposit money into every new site that pops up.  Doing so is asking to get scammed sooner or later. So, they take the risk away from you by depositing a small amount of btc into your account so you can test the site to make sure nothing funny is going on.   Once you see the site is working okay, you'll feel more comfortable about depositing your own money.

Oh don't you start :P


This is what I was trying to explain, and it devolved into a shouting match. I was unprofessional and I apologize for that.


There is no withdraw limit. We require you to wager 1.5 BTC before you can withdraw the coins we gave you for free. Seeing as the price has really jumped lately, this number may go down soon.

Missed the point entirely. The complaint is about running promotions without mentioning the requirements, which have been noted long ago. This site keeps repeating the same mistake, I can only guess it is intentionally. You should also read some of the earlier replies here to notice that this causes another issue: the person not being able to legitimate withdraw his funds due to use of this fake promotion.

ice-dice is just luring naïve people, nothing more (let's hope that) nothing less.

We now have it plastered on our fourm posts. I'm sorry that you were "misled" by assuming you would get something for nothing. That really isn't our fault...but nonetheless we are showing the requirements now even moreso.

As for luring people in..I mean this is marketing..You know that right?

As for intentional deposits not being able to be withdrawn because of the promo, just send us an email containing the txid of your deposit and what you want to withdraw, and we will do it manually.

Isn't that the entire basis of what you are promising people when they come to your site? You just want them to bring money.

no you are a little late to the game here bud,,, this had been ongoing for weeks now ~check the date and links on twitter ->October 24th <-
 ..+ have you checked the link with BRK ?   ::)

Well in a sense, we are giving them something for nothing anyways!

Yes, we do want them to bring money, we are a business. A good way to give people trust is giving them free bitcoins to use on our site so they do not have to risk anything.

I'm not going to lie, our wording was poor and we should have been more clear, and we are fixing that still.

You contradict yourself each two sentences, it is not even funny anymore.

You are not giving anything. You are not building any trust.

ok the 30 minute window is up!~ now we are back at 1 BTC!!! ..you had your chance !   ::)

I read the entire thread post by post before I commented.  I agree that the requirements for withdrawal should have been stated more clearly, but this should be an irrelevant concern if you're only talking about the .005 btc (it would be different if, for example, the giveaway was contingent upon you depositing your own money first and then finding out that you can't withdraw the money you deposited).  But, the giveaway is not contingent upon this and so I disagree with your position.

And if by luring naive people, I guess you're including yourself?  How naive do you have to be to not know that a giveaway is supposed to lure people into visiting and testing the site?

Edit: the only reason I've used Satoshi Circle is because they had a giveaway.  It worked.

i'm really starting to think this Fox guy is a P.I.G. or something? wtfff   ::)


+...still nothing sent to my acct!!!

I'm not included in that because I never subscribed to any ice-dice promotion, you are free to ahead and try to look for it. I'm just doing this because I'm tired of seeing this same crap over and over.

Are you really comparing the Satoshi Circle giveaway to this one ? Satoshi Circle is completely honest and actually did have a giveaway.

There is nothing being given here.

Nothing being given here, indeed. I wouldn't complain IF they actually told you the truth. What they are doing is wasting people's time without them knowing beforehand. I don't think I'll go as far as leaving them negative trust unless they keep doing it constantly.
EDIT: Ok, they finally did put it up. Seems like fair game now.

This is stupid.  0.005 btc is being given to an account that you create.  Hence, it's a giveaway.  Just be because you can't withdraw until you bet 1.5 btc doesn't make it not a giveaway.  If you deposited and bet 1.5 of your own btc, you can then withdraw the .005.  

I don't think you'd be upset if they gave you 1.49 btc but you couldn't withdraw it unless you bet 1.5 btc.  You would deposit .01 btc, make a bet, then withdraw everything.

This is little guys gambling site so expect nothing less. This site is no primedice 777coin and bit777 that is giving unlimited 0.02 or 0.01 like peanuts without any rollover.

it's a total scam run by ~....undercover pigs? hmmm*jmo*   ::)

These guys are really upset because before when the limit used to be lower, they would buy(maybe they already had) robot of twitter accounts and redeem this offer over and over again, then about 1 in 10 accounts they would be able to reach the limit and cash out about 0.1BTC. We paid out about 1.4BTC to these fake account holders before realizing its the same 2 people scamming us for money. Now the we increased the limit to 1.5BTC wager so it's harder for them to scam us money so they are now complaining and talking crap about us.

See all these fake twitter accounts:

    https://twitter.com/h7fVandermeulen
    https://twitter.com/Sfi_Stawski1010
    https://twitter.com/BQk_Mikadze4232
    https://twitter.com/8Rl_Moljevic505
    https://twitter.com/sotnd1996
    https://twitter.com/_VupEquis8648BY
    https://twitter.com/i9xHazlip4159EU
    https://twitter.com/gXtKudla4403HHC
    https://twitter.com/_uTjJugovic7828
    https://twitter.com/_wljPines1662BT
    https://twitter.com/DTt_Przybyszews
    https://twitter.com/_hogElyan9488GW
    https://twitter.com/_vdaTournaments
    https://twitter.com/_mijLyche6529MF
    https://twitter.com/_UqtNewlands354
    https://twitter.com/5ox_Ferencik217

That is not my case, I already pointed out why I'm upset with your service. I never used it too, I'm just making it clear how idiotic is this thing you are doing.

Well obviously even if you were the scammer, you won't admit it. Other people even said it's no big deal but you are making a big deal out of it so the likely hood of you being one of those scammer is high. Since you have an incentive for us to lower our limit therefore allowing you to scam us for money. The haightst guy I was able to catch him because before we added the IP block, we found many accounts linked to his IP address.

i'm glad not one of my REAL TWITTER accounts is listed there lol...it's wack you stole my twitter idea in the first place. No wonder you have run into so many problems with it maybe if you would have worked with me, not against me you would have been able to launch an effective promotion as i've been using twitter successfully for several years now.  ::) ~go figure!

From an outside perspective, not knowing anything else about the site, it's not idiotic.  Satoshi Circle did it and I visited their site.   Now Ice-Dice did it.  Would you have rather they just didn't give away .005 at all?  Even with the 1.5 BTC limit still imposed, would that make you satisfied?

When you operate a business that offers a service, you need people using that service!  What good would it do for the business to just give out free money to people who will never use its service?  The idea is to allow you to test the site.  That's it.  You're not supposed to make a killing off a giveaway like this.  This isn't a faucet; we have those already, and it's a terrible business model.  This giveaway let's you play for free to test the site, after which you are supposed to say, "Wow! That was Fun!" And then you deposit your own money to have more fun.

so you admit to logging IP addresses!~ guess how many kids I have?..my family is unwelcome, we get it!  ::)

>>YOU ARE THE SCAMMER AND I CAN PROVE IT!!!

Don't compare satoshi circle to ice-dice there giveaway has no roll over requirements and does not even have post requirements.

~imo the wild thing about this tread is we have not even barely touched on how the game itself is rigged!! LMFAO!!!  ;D

They never gave 0.005 away, so that question has no meaning. But if they never had promoted this, in the way it was promoted, this thread would've never existed.

@haightst and @moderate

Both of you registered October 26, and both of you have an absurd amount of posts during that time. 

You've made your points crystal clear ;)

actually they did and I ended up depositing my own coin and ... at the time i was still able to post in the ice-dice trollbox and was so pissed I could not even cash out even what i deposited! now wtf!!!~when i brought this up they banned me~  :'( ...somehow managed to go balls out make it past the limit and cash out !
***IMHO>>THESE GUYS ARE SCAMMERS ON MANY LEVELS!!***

haightst admitted to me he is also ASICSRUS, who is a known troll from before that scammed us money. It is likely haightst and moderate is the same person as well. And they are very likely to be the guys who scammed me out of 1.4BTC with their fake twitter accounts, since our withdraw limit means they can no longer scam us more coins, and now he is upset.

eat a donut you pig!!! When we clear up what you owe me the real shitstorm is coming!*mark this post!*

====>you know i'm the cool~mellow one ...
~>> compared to the wolves i run with!!!!!

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/files/2011/03/wolf-at-deer-carcass-photo1.jpg

Same thing happened to me but sadly I wasn't so lucky to make it past the limit.

yeah this punk needs his bankroll drained by nokanowama ~ then i could see a string of ddos coming*jmho!*  ::)

Oh dear bitcointalk wisdom... me, some other random guy, and dozens or more of other accounts registered on the same day. You've made your point crystal clear: you are an idiot.

EDIT:

Date Registered:    October 26, 2013, 10:13:17 PM
Date Registered:    October 27, 2013, 03:52:05 AM

So yes.. confirmed your point.

EDIT 2: Just to confirm your super wizardry, check his posts and check his signature to try to find some reason for the post amount.

LOL stop trolling me! =) *cheers!*

(((((vvv*click my siggy!*vvv~lmfao!)))

I'm done with this thread. Haighist, please send your threats. We will wait for them. You have made damaging claims that we are scammers, or "pigs", or anything like that, and you have posted no proof. So until you do, I'll take any of your shit and throw it out my window.

Moderate: Sorry that you're mad. Nothing I can really do for you now.

The joint: Thank you for your understanding and support. I'd just let these two be at this point. They don't want their problems solved, they just want to be mad.

I tried it once. Lost the first game and that was it.

yeah they have moved on to trying to scam Chinese people now~ go figure!  ::)

Ice-Dice is down for last 2 weeks and all our funds are gone. I have 2.1 BTC there.

Anyone this some?

Need to gamble 1.5 BTC to be able to widraw 0.005 is a nice joke.

I give a try to this promo but i lost like always on dice.

This is just marketing, if you think is a chance to get free money, that will not happen. Because wager 300 times that 0.005 is with the intention to dont give the free money, lol.

Nice promo, but i feel cheated too with it.

No the new free bonus promotion is 0.0005 not 0.005 btc and you can withdraw by wagering 0.075 btc.

Cmon, luckybit give lottos on the chat, just for chat you can win from 0.0001 to 0.009 btc... Some sites give money to his bettor, other give a small bank roll that you need to do a miracle to withdraw.

The site is gone for 2 weeks now! so there is no point discussing the giveaway!

people here be so mad..
even so i think a 300x wager requirement is a tad high

That site is rigged. I will not play on that site again.

The site has been not accessable for 20 days now, So you it will likely that you're not really going to be playing there again..

Yes, 300X wager requirement is a tad high. 10X is reasonable. And it is run away with ppl's funds, it turns out to be a scam site, unfortunately. :-[

I had no idea they ran away, I just checked and it says site is down for server maintenance, did you had any money there?

Looks like a lot of people had money there and lost it.

I thought the rollover requirement was a bit excessive.  Really surprised to hear that they shut down.  I really liked how you could set the exact range of winning numbers for your roll, not just high or low on their site.

Sympathies to anyone who may have lost coins.

You sir, are the idiot.

OBVIOUSLY the goal of ANY giveaway is to increase traffic to a site.  WHY THE HELL WOULD HE JUST GIVE YOU FREE BITCOINS?

Go get a job.  Its pretty LOL that you are complaining that he gives you a little btc to play FOR FREE on his site, with the chance that you might get ti cash some out.  HOW DARE HE PROMOTE HIS SITE AND BASICALLY GIVE YOU A FREEROLL ON HIS SITE!!!!!  OMG, the HUMANITY!

In actuality, Ice Dice is probably GLAD to not have you there, since it is really obvious tht you would only be interested in taking the BTC, never to return or play.  Have you ever gotten a free slot play from a casino in the real world?  They give you money also.....and guess what?  They require a play through also.  OMG THE REAL CASINOS ARE SCAMMERS TOO!

Get a life.  Get a job.  And get the fuck out.

/rant

I just saw that they were a scam site......so that sucks.

However, my previous comment holds true.  Don't expect something for nothing, in life. 

maybe people stopped playing there so they decided to get at least a little profit by stealing the money :D not saying that it was a good idea though

Would it surprise you to learnt the the dude cryin' is none other that John Hammes aka BitJohn of Cryptsy? tia! (ref. [for tia!]: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=107109424)