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November 14, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
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The ice-dice guys keep spamming new threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.

The truth is that you will never be able to withdraw that as you have to wager 300 times that amount before being allowed to withdrawal. The rules are never clearly specified, they are just hoping that you visit their site. The latest topic is self-moderated, guess why ?

DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.
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November 14, 2013, 11:52:26 PM
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The ice-dice guys keep spamming new threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.

The truth is that you will never be able to withdraw that as you have to wager 300 times that amount before being allowed to withdrawal. The rules are never clearly specified, they are just hoping that you visit their site. The latest topic is self-moderated, guess why ?

DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.

We are giving you free 0.005BTC. You guys are welcome to not to take our free coins and play with your own money. But if you play with our money, then we will have restrictions to keep fraudsters away.

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November 15, 2013, 12:02:54 AM
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The ice-dice guys keep spamming new threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.

The truth is that you will never be able to withdraw that as you have to wager 300 times that amount before being allowed to withdrawal. The rules are never clearly specified, they are just hoping that you visit their site. The latest topic is self-moderated, guess why ?

DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.

You guys are welcome to not to take our free coins and play with your own money. But if you play with our money, then we will have restrictions to keep fraudsters away.

Just. Stop. Lying. You are not giving anything, you are just luring people to your site.
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November 15, 2013, 12:05:22 AM
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I'll address this in a few points:

1. We aren't spamming from what I understand. We made a new thread that was set to self-moderation so we could more deal with trolls.

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threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.
-- We are offering free bitcoin.

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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

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The rules are never clearly specified
-- Alright. You got us there. We will work on fixing this.

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they are just hoping that you visit their site.
-- In a way, yes. That's why we are running a giveaway...to promote our site.

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DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.
-- That's up to you. If you feel that we are not trustworthy, then you do not need to play here. Never give a site you don't trust your money.



I do apologize for it not being clearly specified. We are giving you a free .005 BTC to start with in your account so you can play with our site and give it a try before risking your own money. Honestly, what would be the point of just giving you Bitcoin? I love giving away bitcoins. I help run the reddit BitcoinTip bot. But we are a business. We are trying to promote our site and give users a chance to try us without risking anything but 5 minutes of their time.

I honestly do not understand how someone could even think we were just giving bitcoins "for lulz".

I will work with David on changing the promo pages so it is more clearly outlined. I'm sorry if we have hurt any of our users, and I am sorry if someone feels like we have cheated them or lied to them. That is not what we are doing or trying to do.

I am sorry. Honest, I am.


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November 15, 2013, 12:11:28 AM
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-- snipped all the idiotic text, nothing addressed --

I am sorry. Honest, I am.


Idiot, you are. You are not offering anything, you are barely a sock puppet from the ice guy.

If you are really really giving bitcoins, and anyone has ever withdrawn that, I'm sure someone can post that transaction here ?

If you are really really giving bitcoins, I'm sure you can post all the 0.005 transactions. Where are they ? Obviously adding a 0.005 to a fake off the chain account is not giving bitcoins, it's just promoting your incoming scam to collect a larger amounts of bitcoins.
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November 15, 2013, 12:14:15 AM
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-- snipped all the idiotic text, nothing addressed --

I am sorry. Honest, I am.


Idiot, you are. You are not offering anything, you are barely a sock puppet from the ice guy.

If you are really really giving bitcoins, and anyone has ever withdrawn that, I'm sure someone can post that transaction here ?

If you are really really giving bitcoins, I'm sure you can post all the 0.005 transactions. Where are they ? Obviously adding a 0.005 to a fake off the chain account is not giving bitcoins, it's just promoting your incoming scam to collect a larger amounts of bitcoins.

I addressed many points in my "idiotic text"

We are starting your account with .005 BTC in it so you can give the site a go for free. We are not giving you Bitcoin to just use however you see fit. We are giving you bitcoin to use on our site, so you do not have to risk anything. The point is not to withdraw it, the point is for you ti use it on our site. If you lose it, you haven't lost anything.

I am sorry if we somehow mislead you into thinking that we would just hand away Bitcoin for nothing.
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November 15, 2013, 12:20:28 AM
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-- snipped all the idiotic text, nothing addressed --

I am sorry. Honest, I am.


Idiot, you are. You are not offering anything, you are barely a sock puppet from the ice guy.

If you are really really giving bitcoins, and anyone has ever withdrawn that, I'm sure someone can post that transaction here ?

If you are really really giving bitcoins, I'm sure you can post all the 0.005 transactions. Where are they ? Obviously adding a 0.005 to a fake off the chain account is not giving bitcoins, it's just promoting your incoming scam to collect a larger amounts of bitcoins.

The point is not to withdraw it. If you lose it, you haven't lost anything.


So you just contradicted what you said earlier ? Good to know I'm even more right to create to this topic, will make sure to create in other sections when appropriated.

So by losing it I lose nothing, does that also mean the 0.005 you add to the account come from nowhere ? I don't expect you to either understand or honestly answer this, btw.


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I am sorry if we somehow mislead you into thinking that we would just hand away Bitcoin for nothing.

Fortunately you cannot mislead me with such bad lies.
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November 15, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
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The ice-dice guys keep spamming new threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.

The truth is that you will never be able to withdraw that as you have to wager 300 times that amount before being allowed to withdrawal. The rules are never clearly specified, they are just hoping that you visit their site. The latest topic is self-moderated, guess why ?

DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.

We are giving you free 0.005BTC. You guys are welcome to not to take our free coins and play with your own money. But if you play with our money, then we will have restrictions to keep fraudsters away.

 Roll Eyes

>> nice choice of words David ~ as you are committing wire fraud!  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud
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November 15, 2013, 12:23:56 AM
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-- snipped all the idiotic text, nothing addressed --

I am sorry. Honest, I am.


Idiot, you are. You are not offering anything, you are barely a sock puppet from the ice guy.

If you are really really giving bitcoins, and anyone has ever withdrawn that, I'm sure someone can post that transaction here ?

If you are really really giving bitcoins, I'm sure you can post all the 0.005 transactions. Where are they ? Obviously adding a 0.005 to a fake off the chain account is not giving bitcoins, it's just promoting your incoming scam to collect a larger amounts of bitcoins.

The point is not to withdraw it. If you lose it, you haven't lost anything.


So you just contradicted what you said earlier ? Good to know I'm even more right to create to this topic, will make sure to create in other sections when appropriated.

So by losing it I lose nothing, does that also mean the 0.005 you add to the account come from nowhere ? I don't expect you to either understand or honestly answer this, btw.


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I am sorry if we somehow mislead you into thinking that we would just hand away Bitcoin for nothing.

Fortunately you cannot mislead me with such bad lies.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

The .005 BTC came from our bankroll and is set into your account. If you lose, it returns to the bankroll from whence it came. If you win, you draw more from it.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying. I do hope you'll give us another try one day!
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November 15, 2013, 12:25:43 AM
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I'll address this in a few points:

1. We aren't spamming from what I understand. We made a new thread that was set to self-moderation so we could more deal with trolls.

2.
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threads that seem to offer 0.005 BTC.
-- We are offering free bitcoin.

3.
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

4.
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The rules are never clearly specified
-- Alright. You got us there. We will work on fixing this.

5.
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they are just hoping that you visit their site.
-- In a way, yes. That's why we are running a giveaway...to promote our site.

6.
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DO NOT contribute to this site in form of visits and deposits.
-- That's up to you. If you feel that we are not trustworthy, then you do not need to play here. Never give a site you don't trust your money.



I do apologize for it not being clearly specified. We are giving you a free .005 BTC to start with in your account so you can play with our site and give it a try before risking your own money. Honestly, what would be the point of just giving you Bitcoin? I love giving away bitcoins. I help run the reddit BitcoinTip bot. But we are a business. We are trying to promote our site and give users a chance to try us without risking anything but 5 minutes of their time.

I honestly do not understand how someone could even think we were just giving bitcoins "for lulz".

I will work with David on changing the promo pages so it is more clearly outlined. I'm sorry if we have hurt any of our users, and I am sorry if someone feels like we have cheated them or lied to them. That is not what we are doing or trying to do.

I am sorry. Honest, I am.





lets start with : WHO ARE YOU??!
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November 15, 2013, 12:26:28 AM
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I've said it before Smiley

I'm a neat guy from MI, USA
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November 15, 2013, 12:30:10 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.
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November 15, 2013, 12:31:35 AM
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I've said it before Smiley

I'm a neat guy from MI, USA

what's your NAME? What COUNTY do you live in? Who is your registering agent or a place to send Legal type stuff as I am one of your first "investors"   ..thanks in advance!...
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November 15, 2013, 12:33:18 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.
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November 15, 2013, 12:34:35 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.
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November 15, 2013, 12:37:04 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

clearly explain why you never payed me out! and why you don't send me what you owe me? *imo*~Not cool to use bitcointalk.org and twitter.com(TWTR) to scam people!  Cry
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November 15, 2013, 12:37:51 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.

Can you tell me again how I contradicted myself? Thanks.
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November 15, 2013, 12:39:32 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.

Can you tell me again how I contradicted myself? Thanks.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you couldn't read. This http://www.talkenglish.com/Grammar/Grammar.aspx might help you, if you need more help on that please post in the trash can section.
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November 15, 2013, 12:43:50 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.

Can you tell me again how I contradicted myself? Thanks.

ice-dice.com
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November 15, 2013, 12:46:04 AM
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will never be able to withdraw
-- Yes you can

Honest, I am.

No one ever said it was for withdrawing.

Well I'm sorry you believe we are lying.

There is no need to be sorry here, you are blatantly lying.

If that is what you choose to believe, so be it.

Even though I clearly explained everything.

Indeed, your clear explanation showed how easy you contradict yourself.

Can you tell me again how I contradicted myself? Thanks.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you couldn't read. This http://www.talkenglish.com/Grammar/Grammar.aspx might help you, if you need more help on that please post in the trash can section.

Thanks for the link! I'll check it out!
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