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Title: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 12:54:24 AM
Giving away up to 200 DTC in this thread, 5~7 to each person + extra contributions from maxsolnc! I'm not a developer of this coin, just trying to generate awareness/ideas.

As a requirement: You must suggest a serious feature or service that you think should be developed for this new coin.
i.e. feature that could be added to the client or any idea or concept for a website/service/logo, etc. Suggested features should mostly relate to Datacoin's data storage ability and must be something new to the thread.

So, post your ideas and Datacoin address here!

If you only include an address or regurgitated idea then you receive just 2 DTC from me!

The DTC info thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0

ps: At this time I am selling DTC. See this thread and PM me if interested: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337422.msg


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin Giveaway! (200 to give away!)
Post by: antp1114 on November 19, 2013, 01:42:26 AM
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there will be a limit on the size of the file that can be attached, but it would be cool if you could maybe increase the miner or another fee to increase the size of the file you could store.

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Thanks!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin Giveaway! (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 01:47:38 AM
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there will be a limit on the size of the file that can be attached, but it would be cool if you could maybe increase the miner or another fee to increase the size of the file you could store.

DKB12rQp5zZPJLxLt2EJsLpe9fwJvFq2Ev

Thanks!

Yeah, perhaps this could be done by segmenting files and sending multiple transactions. Exactly the kind of thing that could conceivably be built in to the client! Sent!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin Giveaway! (200 to give away!)
Post by: hoian0809 on November 19, 2013, 01:52:15 AM
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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: ropyu1978 on November 19, 2013, 02:09:05 AM
need official web!

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 :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 02:20:07 AM
need official web!

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 :)

Sent!

ps: Also added to giveaway requirement that future suggestions must be ideas new to the thread.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: adoalli on November 19, 2013, 03:03:03 AM
who can provide the pool?

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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: j5d on November 19, 2013, 03:16:54 AM
I'm not technically inclined enough to make what I think would be a valid feature suggestion for this coin. So I'm going to have to use my imagination.

Provide this as an option:

Make the process of sending some Datacoin from one wallet to another use the wallet addresses themselves as a means to create a "decoder ring" for the signed messages, so not only is there data embedded into the blockchain, but you would have to be aware of what to search for and what "decoder ring" to use to even see the message? Every transaction would create a new decoder ring, which can really be applied to any section of the blockchain, but the only section that would reveal legible information would be the section it was meant to decode?

Okay, I'm done. Here is my wallet address: DQpyYpqoR48MkG9Y3eASNoVw3NeRtgmK46



Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: OhShBit on November 19, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
DSScD28ZC2dbg9RZmBcHA2isCgBCrLwE9x  Thank You!:D


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: shaber122 on November 19, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: strunberg on November 19, 2013, 03:39:27 AM
I want to some how use data coin's combined power in a manner that would let people use it on their computing project.
folding at home,and seti at home could certainly use  bit coin's total computing power....


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 03:44:43 AM
I'm not technically inclined enough to make what I think would be a valid feature suggestion for this coin. So I'm going to have to use my imagination.

Provide this as an option:

Make the process of sending some Datacoin from one wallet to another use the wallet addresses themselves as a means to create a "decoder ring" for the signed messages, so not only is there data embedded into the blockchain, but you would have to be aware of what to search for and what "decoder ring" to use to even see the message? Every transaction would create a new decoder ring, which can really be applied to any section of the blockchain, but the only section that would reveal legible information would be the section it was meant to decode?

Okay, I'm done. Here is my wallet address: DQpyYpqoR48MkG9Y3eASNoVw3NeRtgmK46



Cool suggestion. I also think some kind of encryption could/should be built into the client so that only the receiving address could decode the message. Using this built-in encryption would be optional of course. Perhaps there could be two options for encryption 1: encrypt the data with a pass-phrase (which could be shared with multiple people) or 2: encrypt so that only the recipient (with the private key) could decode.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Mark77 on November 19, 2013, 03:44:59 AM
Thanks!  :D
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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 03:55:20 AM
I want to some how use data coin's combined power in a manner that would let people use it on their computing project.
folding at home,and seti at home could certainly use  bit coin's total computing power....
This would be great unfortunately it seems very difficult to design a proof-of-work for crypocurrency that would also double as doing something else useful aside from securing the network. The closest anyone has come has been Primecoin I think, though I am not sure how scientifically useful the prime numbers it generates actually are - at least it is an attempt.

Perhaps a coin like Datacoin (that stores data in the blockchain) could be the key to such proof-of-work. Evidence of the computer's contribution to the 'computing project' could be stored in the blockchain... However the computers would still be 'wasting' their power hashing away on a specific proof of work like bitcoin/primecoin rather than working on SETI. Bit over my head how someone will solve this ;D


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: roozifus on November 19, 2013, 03:58:57 AM
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Thanks!

I think one interesting application would be storing encrypted data that you want to make publicly available at a later date.
You could send an encrypted version of your data into the network and then at a later date upload the key and maybe a reference to the encrypted data.
You can obviously do this already with torrents or just web servers, but I think datacoin is a better fit because the data is guaranteed to stay there and can be referenced easily from outside.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 04:05:26 AM
I think one interesting application would be storing encrypted data that you want to make publicly available at a later date.
You could send an encrypted version of your data into the network and then at a later date upload the key and maybe a reference to the encrypted data.
You can obviously do this already with torrents or just web servers, but I think datacoin is a better fit because the data is guaranteed to stay there and can be referenced easily from outside.

Yeah, nice. Something like Datacoin could have applications in artistic copyright registrations, scientific research perhaps or anything where you wanted to prove you had prior knowledge of something :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 04:06:57 AM
All sent up to here. (Sent a few extra DTC to the best thought-out suggestions).


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Kelekin on November 19, 2013, 04:16:57 AM
Maybe I'm not the greatest at understanding the concept, but I feel there could be multiple versions of this coin that could be effective for historical referencing of text.  I mean think of it is as its' potential effect as a library.  Text is so easy to compress as is, what if there was a blockchain that was literally just important historical or referential documents?  As it stands it is important but there is no focus; after all, wikipedia is usually just a generalized collection of information.  Having -specific- information at your fingertips would certainly be something I love (ooh, I totally want to read block 8634 today~).  That being said, maybe I'm not getting it, and this is a whole new idea? If so, maybe someone can help me develop it. :)

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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: 74kedr on November 19, 2013, 04:19:41 AM
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Cпacибo


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: roozifus on November 19, 2013, 04:22:38 AM
I think one interesting application would be storing encrypted data that you want to make publicly available at a later date.
You could send an encrypted version of your data into the network and then at a later date upload the key and maybe a reference to the encrypted data.
You can obviously do this already with torrents or just web servers, but I think datacoin is a better fit because the data is guaranteed to stay there and can be referenced easily from outside.

Yeah, nice. Something like Datacoin could have applications in artistic copyright registrations, scientific research perhaps or anything where you wanted to prove you had prior knowledge of something :)

I didn't even think of copyright and research! That's a great idea!
You could upload your work encrypted in realtime as you work on it, and then make it available whenever you needed to.
I think in regard to patents, whether something is in the public domain is a big issue, it would be interesting to know whether data publicly available but in an encrypted state would be considered to be in the public domain or not.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: extro24 on November 19, 2013, 04:23:45 AM
Email Cryptsy and ask for a listing.
See if we can add a transaction to process BOINC work units
Add the messaging feature Gavin is preparing for Bitcoin: relay OP_RETURN <data> TxOut
Compress the data

Get people to pay for downloads as well, so that you have a properly funded Wikipedia/media repository.

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Thanks


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Adrenalin on November 19, 2013, 04:47:09 AM
DBNrjX7xxAXQRRAyu44KQw1s6ukHDhXc7d thank you!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
Great ideas, even though it's NOT a bottomless 'dropbox' type thing that can hold unlimited data (I think the developer specified a maximum of 500gig/year - and that's a lot required, especially when adding up the cost of being replicated on many Hard Drives). Certainly wouldn't want to store a library of DVDs in it :) But perhaps you could store a 'hash' of a library of DVD's.. kind of like a MD5/SHA checksum? Not storing the data itself but still proof of its 'state' at a certain time.

In any case, the peace of mind your snippet of data was replicated on thousands of machines could be very valuable. You could even hypothetically store your encrypted bitcoin savings wallet in it so you'd never lose it :) And yes, I can imagine different versions of the idea being applied for different purposes/projects (much of which I am sure has been discussed before in relation to the bitcoin blockchain). Maybe separate blockchains for separate projects/repositories.. etc

I'll be curious to see if the currency aspect of Datacoin might ever help to balance the cost of such a large blockchain, and if that would ever make it worthwhile for the miners.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: ShadeysLadyDrea on November 19, 2013, 05:03:34 AM
Some sort of exchange/trading feature (with other wallets) thats actually embedded into the wallet would be pretty cool. Or perhaps a feature like Neocoin, that has the current blockchain and stats on the wallet overview page would be pretty cool too.

      D6DXiGbxAKcKmqEYtwsoN7npHVtRzbSUvm Thanks :D

Edit: Block chain and stats meaning a display


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: 794259332 on November 19, 2013, 05:10:21 AM
when can trade?

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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Kelekin on November 19, 2013, 05:16:15 AM
when can trade?

I feel like trading is the least valuable part of this concept. =p


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: 12345mm on November 19, 2013, 05:18:41 AM
Been mining primecoin for most of the week on my lil cpu ... got 2 blocks ... very much am interested in cpu / mem intensive coins especially with useful / interesting application like this

DU6LcPcbbDEj3xyMkJgWsM3EnnHt7bp8og  :) :) :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: heigua on November 19, 2013, 05:44:56 AM
could you make a cool logo for this
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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 05:50:16 AM
when can trade?

I feel like trading is the least valuable part of this concept. =p

haha, I can't decide if that makes it worthless or valuable. People might be willing to pay quite a bit to store their data irrevocably and forever in an unchangeable public record.

I can imagine a future where all births, deaths, property sales, etc, etc are recorded in such a decentralized way. In this case it costs small amounts of the coin to do so, hence the value is there in principle at least :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 06:31:25 AM
I sent additional 5 DTC to everyone who presented an interesting idea here  :) Please post more ideas - I'll give another 5 DTC (in addition to MessyCoin)
And yes, we need a logo!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Kelekin on November 19, 2013, 06:38:17 AM
when can trade?

I feel like trading is the least valuable part of this concept. =p

haha, I can't decide if that makes it worthless or valuable. People might be willing to pay quite a bit to store their data irrevocably and forever in an unchangeable public record.

I can imagine a future where all births, deaths, property sales, etc, etc are recorded in such a decentralized way. In this case it costs small amounts of the coin to do so, hence the value is there in principle at least :)

I definitely agree - I was more so referring to the fact that it seemed like everyone knows coins can be traded and have value and so that post was a little silly in the context of this thread which is about useful and interesting ideas. :)

Man, imagine if Edward Snowden uploaded everything to a blockchain and we all had NSA secrets in our computers. =p That would've been clever.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: spark_li on November 19, 2013, 07:52:15 AM
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thank u

I think,current the most important thing is have a market to trade dtc


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: CheatBean on November 19, 2013, 08:01:10 AM
I'd really like to see a Datacoin homepage with stats, just basic info like total hash power, current block #, etc.
As well as a forum specific to the coin and any relevant links, like if it happens to get picked up by any alt coin trading sites.
Suggestion for logo, maybe based around the 'lock', like an https lock kind of logo. Or I was thinking the old traditional floppy symbol, but I don't like actually like that much =)
Thoughts?

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Thanks



Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Gontxi on November 19, 2013, 08:36:48 AM
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Tks mate.... ;)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Shablo on November 19, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
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Thanks


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
Launched IRC for datacoin on https://webchat.freenode.net  , channel #datacoin


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: endlessskill on November 19, 2013, 09:31:06 AM
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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: yabit on November 19, 2013, 09:50:08 AM
In all cryptocoin clients I miss a easy method to store my wallet.dat file (or better all wallet.dat files) in another path by default, which I want to encrypt (e.g. using truecrypt).

I miss an easy method to use the (windows) client as a portable one on an usb-stick using the interface.


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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: hanfcn on November 19, 2013, 10:31:32 AM
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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: sergiom on November 19, 2013, 10:38:18 AM
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Suggestions: Exchange and Selling Goodies

Thanks :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Snail2 on November 19, 2013, 10:53:25 AM
Suggestion/question: I'm thinking on how we can turn a block explored to an easy to use data upload and retrieval GUI.

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TIA :).


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Findus on November 19, 2013, 11:51:35 AM
This is a suggestion for the long term, but when the data will be very large and shared between many users, there should be an option to keep only, say 1% of it on the local hard disk.

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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
@Snail2 : I think it's possible, good idea!
@Findus : we need to clarify that when developer is online, it will be very good, but I don't know if it could be implemented with current blockchain.

And yes, sent some coins to you!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: sana8410 on November 19, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
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thanks


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxiandr on November 19, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
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Thank you!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Sharky444 on November 19, 2013, 05:13:13 PM
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Idea: a separate tree database that holds filenames of the data blocks, so it's searchable. user could submit filenames with a community down/up vote.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: Bitcoin! on November 19, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
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Thanks!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: pulse on November 19, 2013, 06:52:05 PM
A Twitter like website that watches the blockchain for messages and displays them on the website.

You register a Datacoin address and prove you own it by submitting a micro transaction to the website address.

From that point on any transaction you submit will not only be stored on the blockchain, but also displayed on the website.

"why would people pay a micro transaction when they can just use twitter?" you might ask.
Theres no guarantee that twitter will last forever.

The site would be funded by the micro transactions and advertising. Does anyone think this a good enough idea to start developing?

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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
A Twitter like website that watches the blockchain for messages and displays them on the website.

You register a Datacoin address and prove you own it by submitting a micro transaction to the website address.

From that point on any transaction you submit will not only be stored on the blockchain, but also displayed on the website.

"why would people pay a micro transaction when they can just use twitter?" you might ask.
Theres no guarantee that twitter will last forever.

The site would be funded by the micro transactions and advertising. Does anyone think this a good enough idea to start developing?

DMutjbvzZEvEM79JVgyCzzPS3LMukPtCwu

Hmm, interesting idea, but who will visit this site? Can you explain this?
And yes, coins sent to you!


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: pulse on November 19, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
A Twitter like website that watches the blockchain for messages and displays them on the website.

You register a Datacoin address and prove you own it by submitting a micro transaction to the website address.

From that point on any transaction you submit will not only be stored on the blockchain, but also displayed on the website.

"why would people pay a micro transaction when they can just use twitter?" you might ask.
Theres no guarantee that twitter will last forever.

The site would be funded by the micro transactions and advertising. Does anyone think this a good enough idea to start developing?

DMutjbvzZEvEM79JVgyCzzPS3LMukPtCwu

Hmm, interesting idea, but who will visit this site? Can you explain this?
And yes, coins sent to you!

Lets call it Twidder (dd for datacoin)

the site would be for anyone who might use twitter today, but also for someone who wants more anonymity. The security that only they can submit Twidders, since it requires access to your datacoin address it uses the same security that your wallet has. Similarly to twitter, it can be used anywhere in the globe. and you can submit anything that can fit into 128Kb.

edit: and unlike twitter it cannot be censored (twitter has been known to remove tweets that governments have asked of them).


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
A Twitter like website that watches the blockchain for messages and displays them on the website.

You register a Datacoin address and prove you own it by submitting a micro transaction to the website address.

From that point on any transaction you submit will not only be stored on the blockchain, but also displayed on the website.

"why would people pay a micro transaction when they can just use twitter?" you might ask.
Theres no guarantee that twitter will last forever.

The site would be funded by the micro transactions and advertising. Does anyone think this a good enough idea to start developing?

DMutjbvzZEvEM79JVgyCzzPS3LMukPtCwu

Hmm, interesting idea, but who will visit this site? Can you explain this?
And yes, coins sent to you!

Lets call it Twidder (dd for datacoin)

the site would be for anyone who might use twitter today, but also for someone who wants more anonymity. The security that only they can submit Twidders, since it requires access to your datacoin address it uses the same security that your wallet has. Similarly to twitter, it can be used anywhere in the globe. and you can submit anything that can fit into 128Kb.

edit: and unlike twitter it cannot be censored (twitter has been known to remove tweets that governments have asked of them).

Makes sense. The only thing confusing me is that some unwilling content could be displayed on such site. It is 'invisible' in blockchain, but can be visible on the site.


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: sumantso on November 19, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
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Thanks a lot :)


Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: 9971ea1a on November 19, 2013, 08:07:46 PM
Blockchains will lead a storage problem for users after months. You can develop a server base lightweight client (for e.g an Electrum-fork).
In addition for qt client, may be an embedded blockchain explorer and mining tabs.

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Title: Re: GIVEAWAY! [DTC] Datacoin (200 to give away!)
Post by: maxsolnc on November 19, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Blockchains will lead a storage problem for users after months. You can develop a server base lightweight client (for e.g an Electrum-fork). Users of this client will pay a monthly btc fee  (like donations for serverside data storage)

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Also makes sense, but what will developer say?  ;)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giiveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 19, 2013, 10:29:39 PM
Sent coins to all in this thread so far! Keep those cool ideas coming!

Feel free to leave more ideas for extra bonus ;) or enter the contest for logo design that maxsolnc is running at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338986.msg

Loving the twitter-style application. Sounds really perfect given the limited storage space for each transaction. I assume it would be readable directly in the blockchain as well as the website. Therefore I don't see the website as necessary though a nice option. Things like friends/follow list could be stored and managed locally by the client and the blockchain would contain only addresses and messages. Could be a "killer app" :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: AmGfxMarty on November 20, 2013, 02:04:19 AM
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Still need a logo?


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 20, 2013, 02:07:29 AM
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Still need a logo?

Logo contest at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338986.0 hope you decide to enter :)

ps: Your address didn't seem to be valid. Make sure it is for Datacoin (DTC)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giiveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 20, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
Sent coins to all in this thread so far! Keep those cool ideas coming!

Feel free to leave more ideas for extra bonus ;) or enter the contest for logo design that maxsolnc is running at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338986.msg

Loving the twitter-style application. Sounds really perfect given the limited storage space for each transaction. I assume it would be readable directly in the blockchain as well as the website. Therefore I don't see the website as necessary though a nice option. Things like friends/follow list could be stored and managed locally by the client and the blockchain would contain only addresses and messages. Could be a "killer app" :)

Yes, that's great idea for making coin more popular. In future, if DTC gains value, this site can be also something like advertisement platform. Those who want advertisement should pay in DTC not only for sending their info to blockchain (fee), but also for showing this info on site.

anyway, if pulse develops such app, I'll donate several hundreds DTC to him :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: tubbyjr on November 20, 2013, 08:37:13 AM
For larger data files, rather than increasing the size limit per block, have some sort of protocol that would allow 128kb divisions of the file to be made and spread over the blockchain that way. Of course something would need to be done to clearly order and connect those blocks of data. One could for example make several 128kb RAR divisions, but something at least needs to be implemented to connect the blocks.

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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: simbo on November 20, 2013, 08:46:59 AM
Not sure if it is possible to implement some kind of mini exchange feature into the client, like ripple gateway.

Adding some type of trusted distributed storage so that the client do not to hold full transaction log may be good too.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: simbo on November 20, 2013, 08:56:54 AM
Thanks. :D


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 20, 2013, 10:07:49 AM
For larger data files, rather than increasing the size limit per block, have some sort of protocol that would allow 128kb divisions of the file to be made and spread over the blockchain that way. Of course something would need to be done to clearly order and connect those blocks of data. One could for example make several 128kb RAR divisions, but something at least needs to be implemented to connect the blocks.

DJ4gDVPkWNgRP1sGrFrwA5p7jdbRbHEFQZ

Yes, something like Datacoin Archiver  :)

@slimbo: interesting..


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: roozifus on November 20, 2013, 12:00:53 PM
For larger data files, rather than increasing the size limit per block, have some sort of protocol that would allow 128kb divisions of the file to be made and spread over the blockchain that way. Of course something would need to be done to clearly order and connect those blocks of data. One could for example make several 128kb RAR divisions, but something at least needs to be implemented to connect the blocks.

One way would be to just include header data along with your payload. Eg. If you were to upload a 500kb file, the client could break it up into 127k chunks. Then attach a 1kb header along with each one. It's basically just a linked list where each data package is an item. The client can then get the address of the next message as it reads the current one. So like:

msg1:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg2_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg2:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg3_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg3:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg4_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg4:
  header:
    next_msg: {NONE}
  data:
     {119k_of_data}

Ideally there should be some sort of standard so that different clients could understand how each other are adding data to the network. The system could support multiple data storage methods as long as info about which method was being used was also included in the header of a message.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: lengfeng847 on November 20, 2013, 01:14:26 PM
1. Develop an advertising system which the user can advertise their product or website


2.Client joins the trading function real-time transaction


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TRANKS  ;D


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: kreator on November 20, 2013, 01:47:03 PM
DFD4xTw59ssgaAgRAg5mxXSftHDE43nFGw thanks!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 20, 2013, 02:19:01 PM
For larger data files, rather than increasing the size limit per block, have some sort of protocol that would allow 128kb divisions of the file to be made and spread over the blockchain that way. Of course something would need to be done to clearly order and connect those blocks of data. One could for example make several 128kb RAR divisions, but something at least needs to be implemented to connect the blocks.

One way would be to just include header data along with your payload. Eg. If you were to upload a 500kb file, the client could break it up into 127k chunks. Then attach a 1kb header along with each one. It's basically just a linked list where each data package is an item. The client can then get the address of the next message as it reads the current one. So like:

msg1:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg2_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg2:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg3_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg3:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg4_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg4:
  header:
    next_msg: {NONE}
  data:
     {119k_of_data}

Ideally there should be some sort of standard so that different clients could understand how each other are adding data to the network. The system could support multiple data storage methods as long as info about which method was being used was also included in the header of a message.

Very good idea! Please post your wallet to receive your DTC (with some additional coins, not 5 ;) )
edited: found it at 1st page, sent coins.

Also thanks to lengfeng847, but can you explain point 2 ?


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: Sharky444 on November 20, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
you could save websites as text only into the data stream to create something like archive.org

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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: Palmdetroit on November 20, 2013, 03:02:07 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 20, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: Palmdetroit on November 20, 2013, 04:33:01 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 20, 2013, 08:32:16 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.

This is good idea, but I don't know if there is a possibility to delete any info from blockchain. Solution can be splitting it into smaller parts that will be stored on computers: 1000 copies of one part on 1000 computer, etc etc


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: extro24 on November 20, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
I asked Cryptsy to add Datacoin (as a feature request on the support forums)

https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/41010

Perhaps others should go and support the request.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: ParmaBTC on November 20, 2013, 11:56:50 PM
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thanks

i have no idea at the moment, but i'm working hard on it!


Thanks


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: tubbyjr on November 20, 2013, 11:58:39 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.


In regards to the data removal, what could be done, is that the DTC account that added would have to pay a subscription of sorts, to keep the data in the blockchain, such as 0.0000001 DTC per block or some other interval. This would ensure that it isn't just useless information being added. And to keep useful data in the chian there should be a lottery of sorts, for the most accessed/downloaded blocks, giving them a portion of the mined DTCs. I understand there may be potential abuse by the posters continually accessing a block to give themselves a higher chance of winning the lottery, but one could simply make a hashcheck of the ip looking to access the block, and only give them a point if it is the first access of the block.

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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: simbo on November 21, 2013, 12:48:00 AM
To keep the local data size manageable, we can store the old data on like 100 servers & new clients given the option to download it, if they want to. There servers can be daisy-chained & intermittently checked for data consistency. Anyone willing to provide the server space can be added to the chain.

On client side, the client will be update whenever there is proposed moving to data server & choice if they want to keep the data locally.

Regards.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: cryptohunter on November 21, 2013, 01:16:32 AM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

yeah pos with good interest , it is possible for the dev to add that feature at this stage?


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 21, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.


In regards to the data removal, what could be done, is that the DTC account that added would have to pay a subscription of sorts, to keep the data in the blockchain, such as 0.0000001 DTC per block or some other interval. This would ensure that it isn't just useless information being added. And to keep useful data in the chian there should be a lottery of sorts, for the most accessed/downloaded blocks, giving them a portion of the mined DTCs. I understand there may be potential abuse by the posters continually accessing a block to give themselves a higher chance of winning the lottery, but one could simply make a hashcheck of the ip looking to access the block, and only give them a point if it is the first access of the block.

DJ4gDVPkWNgRP1sGrFrwA5p7jdbRbHEFQZ

Very interesting, but seems to be difficult to implement
Sent coins!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 21, 2013, 06:49:19 AM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  ;D (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.


In regards to the data removal, what could be done, is that the DTC account that added would have to pay a subscription of sorts, to keep the data in the blockchain, such as 0.0000001 DTC per block or some other interval. This would ensure that it isn't just useless information being added. And to keep useful data in the chian there should be a lottery of sorts, for the most accessed/downloaded blocks, giving them a portion of the mined DTCs. I understand there may be potential abuse by the posters continually accessing a block to give themselves a higher chance of winning the lottery, but one could simply make a hashcheck of the ip looking to access the block, and only give them a point if it is the first access of the block.

DJ4gDVPkWNgRP1sGrFrwA5p7jdbRbHEFQZ

Very interesting, but seems to be difficult to implement
Sent coins!

I'd imagine that data removal would be possible by consensus of the network in the same way that data can be added. For example, data could be removed if a specially formed message was sent from the same address as the original data.. or perhaps the client could be designed so that data automatically expires after a time, requiring it to be re-inserted at intervals if you want to keep it there (similar to what I have heard about the blockchain used by Bitmessage). Perhaps there could even be different levels of fees for permanent or shorter-term storage, all regulated by the p2p nature of the software. I assume it would be possible in principle but difficult to implement any of this :) While useful for some applications and keeping the blockchain size down, I kinda like the simplicity of the initial idea: that all data is kept for all time.

Sent coins to everyone so far!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 21, 2013, 08:51:35 AM
Hopefully oocook5u comes to DTC threads today and answers some questions.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: GreekBitcoin on November 21, 2013, 09:05:45 AM
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thanks


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 21, 2013, 07:01:43 PM
Bump - ideas needed!  :D


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: Coinpicker on November 21, 2013, 07:17:52 PM
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ty


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 22, 2013, 11:50:17 AM
Up!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: simbo on November 22, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to create a client that don't do hashing, just for receive, send & get transaction update? This type of client do not contribute to the chain but will be very light & do not keep transaction data. Good for people who do not mine & just want to make transactions with the coins they own or check how much coins they have, without having to wait for blockchain update.

Regards,
Simon Sim


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 22, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to create a client that don't do hashing, just for receive, send & get transaction update? This type of client do not contribute to the chain but will be very light & do not keep transaction data. Good for people who do not mine & just want to make transactions with the coins they own or check how much coins they have, without having to wait for blockchain update.

Regards,
Simon Sim

Every client contributes to the chain when it sends transactions. And idea of this coin is to provide storage... don't think that it is good thought to not to store even part of blockchain on computers.



Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: Pitstop on November 22, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
DJ2d4VYtNaeYkiKH4YDGyWkgSpB8z5s3GE  Tks


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: cryptohunter on November 22, 2013, 12:40:36 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to create a client that don't do hashing, just for receive, send & get transaction update? This type of client do not contribute to the chain but will be very light & do not keep transaction data. Good for people who do not mine & just want to make transactions with the coins they own or check how much coins they have, without having to wait for blockchain update.

Regards,
Simon Sim

Every client contributes to the chain when it sends transactions. And idea of this coin is to provide storage... don't think that it is good thought to not to store even part of blockchain on computers.



+1


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: simbo on November 22, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to create a client that don't do hashing, just for receive, send & get transaction update? This type of client do not contribute to the chain but will be very light & do not keep transaction data. Good for people who do not mine & just want to make transactions with the coins they own or check how much coins they have, without having to wait for blockchain update.

Regards,
Simon Sim

Every client contributes to the chain when it sends transactions. And idea of this coin is to provide storage... don't think that it is good thought to not to store even part of blockchain on computers.



The way I look at it, is that someone may just want to make a transaction or check status. He/she may not into digital coins itself, maybe an investor or something. He/she may not want to wait for the chain update. Also such client is very light, maybe can install into smart phones, if coded in java or some mobile phone language.

Regards


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 22, 2013, 12:54:20 PM
I am wondering if it is possible to create a client that don't do hashing, just for receive, send & get transaction update? This type of client do not contribute to the chain but will be very light & do not keep transaction data. Good for people who do not mine & just want to make transactions with the coins they own or check how much coins they have, without having to wait for blockchain update.

Regards,
Simon Sim

Every client contributes to the chain when it sends transactions. And idea of this coin is to provide storage... don't think that it is good thought to not to store even part of blockchain on computers.



The way I look at it, is that someone may just want to make a transaction or check status. He/she may not into digital coins itself, maybe an investor or something. He/she may not want to wait for the chain update. Also such client is very light, maybe can install into smart phones, if coded in java or some mobile phone language.

Regards

I understand you. So I think that anyone who has enough skill in smartphone programming can rewrite parts of initial code to java etc, and use smartphone as front-end - no hundreds GB of data, only interface. Back-end will be installed on some server (cluster of servers) that have synchronized blockchain. But it needs a lot of work: it will be something like online wallet, but even more difficult.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: helloword2013 on November 22, 2013, 01:05:04 PM
I think that add a txt  submit button in client for miner. 
You can set up a site collect these client messages.
Thanks
DTC:DR2WATFQMgY5Wbf394PkPwr4B4ogH3XkL6


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 22, 2013, 01:09:47 PM
I think that add a txt  submit button in client for miner. 
You can set up a site collect these client messages.
Thanks
DTC:DR2WATFQMgY5Wbf394PkPwr4B4ogH3XkL6

It is something like 'twidder' idea https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338480.msg3642029#msg3642029
coins sent!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: tautvilis on November 22, 2013, 01:20:21 PM
I thought of very awesome logo desing, gonna upload later, when done!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: helloword2013 on November 22, 2013, 01:27:51 PM
I think that add a txt  submit button in client for miner. 
You can set up a site collect these client messages.
Thanks
DTC:DR2WATFQMgY5Wbf394PkPwr4B4ogH3XkL6

It is something like 'twidder' idea https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338480.msg3642029#msg3642029
coins sent!
"the site would be for anyone who might use twitter today, but also for someone who wants more anonymity......."
I read that after you tell me ,thanks. :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 23, 2013, 04:08:33 AM
giveaway still on!

Also, for anyone interested:

maxsolnc has started a block explorer project: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343178.0

There is a DTC trading thread at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343297.0


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: vovan115 on November 23, 2013, 06:24:29 AM
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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: bidji29 on November 23, 2013, 01:56:26 PM
Since the purpose of the coin is store data, I think it should focus on important data.


I'm thinking about Wikipedia; Wikileaks and ThePirateBay.



-Thepiratebay archive is only 80MB, so it would take only 1 hours or two to stock it permanently in the blockchain!
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7016365/The_whole_Pirate_Bay_magnet_archive
https://thepiratebay.sx/details.php?id=8156416

-There is a lot of important data on Wikileaks
Trans-pacific partenership : https://wikileaks.org/tpp/
Cablegate : http://wikileaks.org/magnet.txt
Syria files: http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/releases.html
There is a lot more. I don't know the size of it.

-I think the tiniest wikipedia dump is like 20GB so it's probably difficult to stock it in the chain, but why not.




DTC : DRys1QmzkXNgFo1dMds6k2fGwHy9Hq5T41


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 23, 2013, 02:08:36 PM
Since the purpose of the coin is store data, I think it should focus on important data.


I'm thinking about Wikipedia; Wikileaks and ThePirateBay.



-Thepiratebay archive is only 80MB, so it would take only 1 hours or two to stock it permanently in the blockchain!
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7016365/The_whole_Pirate_Bay_magnet_archive
https://thepiratebay.sx/details.php?id=8156416

-There is a lot of important data on Wikileaks
Trans-pacific partenership : https://wikileaks.org/tpp/
Cablegate : http://wikileaks.org/magnet.txt
Syria files: http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/releases.html
There is a lot more. I don't know the size of it.

-I think the tiniest wikipedia dump is like 20GB so it's probably difficult to stock it in the chain, but why not.




DTC : DRys1QmzkXNgFo1dMds6k2fGwHy9Hq5T41


You're right! I'll try to write small 'archiver' that can upload data into blockchain. We should remember that it will cost a lot of coins (1MB = 51 Datacoins). But  site with donation addresses can be created. I.e. 'upload thepiratebay dump, address XXXX' . If donations are enough to store it (4096 DataCoins for TPB :) ), the upload process will be started.
And coins sent to you!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: jubjub on November 23, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
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Thanks.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 23, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
You're right! I'll try to write small 'archiver' that can upload data into blockchain.

I'm sure you noticed but the developer has included "Perl scripts for putting and getting files to/from blockchain." in the initial post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0 Something to build upon?


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 23, 2013, 02:43:34 PM
You're right! I'll try to write small 'archiver' that can upload data into blockchain.

I'm sure you noticed but the developer has included "Perl scripts for putting and getting files to/from blockchain." in the initial post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0 Something to build upon?

Yeah, I know, but I want to make some changes and maybe create some GUI for it so everyone can at least read files from blockchain.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: moke on November 24, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
Giving away up to 200 DTC in this thread, 5~7 to each person + extra contributions from maxsolnc! I'm not a developer of this coin, just trying to generate awareness/ideas.

As a requirement: You must suggest a serious feature or service that you think should be developed for this new coin.
i.e. feature that could be added to the client or any idea or concept for a website/service/logo, etc. Suggested features should mostly relate to Datacoin's data storage ability and must be something new to the thread.

So, post your ideas and Datacoin address here!

If you only include an address or regurgitated idea then you receive just 2 DTC from me!

The DTC info thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0

ps: At this time I am selling DTC. See this thread and PM me if interested: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337422.msg




any new coins, which wants to live or develope for a long time, must think of China maket.

the creaters of these coins had better to get a chinese partner to help them to surport the programm.

thx!
My address:

DCohXcv38APoUjfZbJZxWU6Usz1pdgc9td


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 24, 2013, 09:19:59 AM
Giving away up to 200 DTC in this thread, 5~7 to each person + extra contributions from maxsolnc! I'm not a developer of this coin, just trying to generate awareness/ideas.

As a requirement: You must suggest a serious feature or service that you think should be developed for this new coin.
i.e. feature that could be added to the client or any idea or concept for a website/service/logo, etc. Suggested features should mostly relate to Datacoin's data storage ability and must be something new to the thread.

So, post your ideas and Datacoin address here!

If you only include an address or regurgitated idea then you receive just 2 DTC from me!

The DTC info thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0

ps: At this time I am selling DTC. See this thread and PM me if interested: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337422.msg




any new coins, which wants to live or develope for a long time, must think of China maket.

the creaters of these coins had better to get a chinese partner to help them to surport the programm.

thx!
My address:

DCohXcv38APoUjfZbJZxWU6Usz1pdgc9td

We also promoted Datacoin to Chinese section, but we will need another promotion with interesting ideas from this thread to show Chinese that it is not just useless clone, Datacoin can bring a lot of new things into cryptocurrency world.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: a715802258 on November 24, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: huadaonan on November 24, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
 i am interested in this datacoin.maybe very useful for different fields.mining now~~
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Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: lemons on November 24, 2013, 01:06:27 PM
DMJ7hx1bnuLW5WjDwMbNhjGjjnoBKEYgA6


THX


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Post by: lvchaya on November 24, 2013, 02:33:33 PM
赶快建个矿池,我认为最重要,再写个详细的挖矿教材    DKpx58u41bhqYasGndFwhgF2XNvaNHhHdN


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: deodecagone on November 24, 2013, 03:39:51 PM
Hi,

So here is my 2 cents.

It is unusal but I would really do some marketing on the fact that datacoin is today the only way for anyone to give a message to the world such as this message would be maintained undefintely and can't be removed. It would survive beyond yourselfs. If you think about it twice , there are no really such services, and anything you may put online always disappear for several reasons : fees not paid, legal seized, server down, company hosting takeover, use conditions changed,  or whatever.  Here the coin objective guarantees you gonna allways have nodes maintaining it.

That message could be an idea, a poem, anything of interest to others and it is going to be written in the stone. If it happens taht datacoin show its own sustainability, it would provide a nice added value in this orientation.



D6JcSpYd3drgWnUuTMDUxCMqABLsH9MrWW


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 24, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
Hi,

So here is my 2 cents.

It is unusal but I would really do some marketing on the fact that datacoin is today the only way for anyone to give a message to the world such as this message would be maintained undefintely and can't be removed. It would survive beyond yourselfs. If you think about it twice , there are no really such services, and anything you may put online always disappear for several reasons : fees not paid, legal seized, server down, company hosting takeover, use conditions changed,  or whatever.  Here the coin objective guarantees you gonna allways have nodes maintaining it.

That message could be an idea, a poem, anything of interest to others and it is going to be written in the stone. If it happens taht datacoin show its own sustainability, it would provide a nice added value in this orientation.



D6JcSpYd3drgWnUuTMDUxCMqABLsH9MrWW

You're right ! And we still need people who can promote datacoin to large IT communities to show them its unique features and a lot of possibilities for startups.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: lengfeng847 on November 24, 2013, 04:03:19 PM
Do more paid publicity activities  then  all of us take part in it


i just buy it



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 :) :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: crike on November 24, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
DBbnGNrQ9RCrm9dtbrH6GBiXtS3cXNcFV1

Thanks.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: human on November 24, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
I like the Twidder idea but I suggest that we add one more RPC call to make it easy:

datacoind senddatatoaddress DJuxFTrGje7uFNfjpmCKgqXWzgqZRMHNbQ 10 'Broadcast me'

datacoind senddatatoaddress [address] [amount] [message]

The tx fee is paid to the network for storing the data but the 'amount' here is paid to the operator of the website which establishes the protocol (the meaning of the message, what to do with it) and makes the data available for ordinary users of the web.

If you like it, it's my address up there included in this post.

Cheers!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 24, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
I like the Twidder idea but I suggest that we add one more RPC call to make it easy:

datacoind senddatatoaddress DJuxFTrGje7uFNfjpmCKgqXWzgqZRMHNbQ 10 'Broadcast me'

datacoind senddatatoaddress [address] [amount] [message]

The tx fee is paid to the network for storing the data but the 'amount' here is paid to the operator of the website which establishes the protocol (the meaning of the message, what to do with it) and makes the data available for ordinary users of the web.

If you like it, it's my address up there included in this post.

Cheers!

Interesting thought, will think about it. Coins sent :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 25, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
still bumping - new people come here, and new ideas can be created!


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: maxsolnc on November 25, 2013, 05:26:21 PM
Datacoin is rising in price quickly, storage price also rises that makes sense for mining and storing blockchain. So you still can add cool ideas and receive your Datacoins here! :)


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: moke on November 25, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
Datacoin is rising in price quickly, storage price also rises that makes sense for mining and storing blockchain. So you still can add cool ideas and receive your Datacoins here! :)



btc-8 already added DTC
price got 0.8USD!!!
https://www.btc-8.com/?DTC_CNY


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: basecoin on November 26, 2013, 12:57:30 AM
DANF2L6EBjzNn7qjs96iQXqTfGUtzKyyoq

Thx.


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: chris190 on November 26, 2013, 01:00:59 AM
Great coin, shame about the difficulty that is rapidly increasing! :'(

DCetjuDxiWHoYRc6HY1ejPhfpMbB3wrwPy ;)

thanks


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: kingcoinproject on November 26, 2013, 01:57:57 AM
I suggest this coin support private chat or crypt message like BitMessage, It's not hard to implement this.
If so, Datacoin is not only a alternative coin, but also an anonymous chat software and can be used in various aspects.

My datacoin address is: D8hRC2zfs8QofmHJVM3xZZWEBdvfm7oZbp


Title: Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas!
Post by: MessyCoin on November 26, 2013, 02:15:44 AM
All coins sent!

.. and my giveaway supply of DTC is now completely spent  :)

Thank you very much all for sharing your ideas - many of which are really great and I hope provide some thought for the developers!

I'm happy to say that Datacoin is now being traded at a number of exchanges! Lets hope this coin has a bright and useful future!

Please continue sharing ideas for Datacoin in one of the official threads.