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Title: Goddamnit...
Post by: missworld on November 23, 2013, 06:00:07 AM
Wore my Slayer shirt to my bf's party. Hyper-religious cousin showed up. :(


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: beetcoin on November 23, 2013, 06:03:45 AM
what's so bad about trolling a religious nut?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: missworld on November 23, 2013, 06:22:45 AM
what's so bad about trolling a religious nut?

I trolled so hard...


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: BitcoinFr34k on November 23, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
Wore my Slayer shirt to my bf's party. Hyper-religious cousin showed up. :(

Did he/she say anything about it?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:53:07 AM
fuck them

fucking abrahamic magical sky daddy anyway...for fucks sake


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: BitcoinFr34k on November 23, 2013, 08:09:46 AM
fuck them

fucking abrahamic magical sky daddy anyway...for fucks sake

I don't  think so. We should all respect eachother, despite our religical background. But it should go 2 ways. Her cousing should respect her for wearing that t-shirt as well.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 08:15:21 AM
well they can start with the respect game, I been turning the other cheek to those repressive morons entirely too long


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: mprep on November 23, 2013, 09:07:14 AM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: bitmarket.io on November 23, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: Kiki112 on November 23, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.

what are you talking about, who caused bloodshed in the name of Abraham?
by that logic you should fuck USA because it caused bloodshed in Iran,Iraq,Japan,Korea,Vietnam..


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: mprep on November 23, 2013, 03:12:33 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.

what are you talking about, who caused bloodshed in the name of Abraham?
by that logic you should fuck USA because it caused bloodshed in Iran,Iraq,Japan,Korea,Vietnam..

https://i.imgur.com/J1uereD.png
Most, if not all of these wars weren't for religion at heart. It was either power, land or riches. Of course, it can be a combination of the three.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: missworld on November 23, 2013, 03:13:58 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.

what are you talking about, who caused bloodshed in the name of Abraham?
by that logic you should fuck USA because it caused bloodshed in Iran,Iraq,Japan,Korea,Vietnam..

https://i.imgur.com/J1uereD.png

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-5848-Boy-That-Escalated-Quickly-mem-o17d.gif


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: mprep on November 23, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
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Most, if not all of these wars weren't for religion at heart. It was either power, land or riches. Of course, it can be a combination of the three.

Don't be gullible.  Religion was authored by some clever people to gain influence, control, and naturally everything else follows.  It's a mask to cover their dirty deeds. And it worked when people used to think earth was a fucking pancake.

Not in 2014 my friend. I won't allow it.

War these days is over resources or to stimulate the defense industry.  
I am talking about real religion, not cults, draining out money and about actually religious people. Yes, every religion had it's dark age when corruption prospered, but these ages passed some time ago.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 03:34:39 PM
... Praying to some god hoping that happens will get you NOWHERE.


"Lol!" --God


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
^ ignored the hell out of you. your ignore link should be a blazing red.

In the name of Christ i compel you Satan!  Lessen your hold and come out now!
*you should feel better momentarily :)


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: Kiki112 on November 23, 2013, 05:42:18 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.

what are you talking about, who caused bloodshed in the name of Abraham?
by that logic you should fuck USA because it caused bloodshed in Iran,Iraq,Japan,Korea,Vietnam..

The US is strategic with war. So is RU.  You can think of RU and US as the white and black on a chess board. The rest of the pieces are their allies (other economies - or countries as noobs call them). In America we call it the Industrial Complex.  And rest assured the defense industry will ALWAYS find a way to stay in business.  You can even invest there if you wish!

But I don't encourage war.  It's silly. But there are people with fucked up thinking that see it necessary.  And religious people hate each other more than any other.  History says it all.

There only needs to be one global economy.  No barriers.  Introduce them and that's the brink of war.

https://i.imgur.com/J1uereD.png

that is completely not true, yeah "strategic", it was strategic to nuke Japan twice altough they were on the verge of surrendering, not mentioning they nuked civilians and not military targets

war is sometimes necessary, sometimes you have to fight for freedom but there is a difference between attacking people for no reason and oil/money like the US does and liberating your country from foreign occupators

religion doesn't have anything to do with war, religion brings people together, if there wasn't religions they would find allies in different ways and those allies would still be a part of those wars..



Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: foggyb on November 23, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Kiki112, way to go for being the voice of reason here.

The one common thread that runs through ALL wars is that there were humans on both sides of all conflicts, religious and non-religious. THAT'S the story the God deniers desperately want you to miss.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: foggyb on November 23, 2013, 05:53:37 PM
How about simply not giving a crap? Usually works and the other person gets tired of talking to someone with a responsiveness of a brick and walks away. Win - win for both.

1. When it comes to money, we're all of the same religion.

2. Fuck all religions. #1 cause of all bloodshed in history, in the name of 'Abraham'.  Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to us.  Put me in a room with a religious person and I will shred them.  Then again, watch out because when you argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

3. Straighten out your thinking.

what are you talking about, who caused bloodshed in the name of Abraham?
by that logic you should fuck USA because it caused bloodshed in Iran,Iraq,Japan,Korea,Vietnam..

https://i.imgur.com/J1uereD.png


Most, if not all of these wars weren't for religion at heart. It was either power, land or riches. Of course, it can be a combination of the three.


+1,000,000

Real faith is not about natural things. So why fight for them? Spiritual properties can't be bought, sold, or forced at the barrel of a gun.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:54 PM
"god deniers"? really?

the Christians came in, murdering and enslaving my people, systematically stamping out our existing religious tradition.

How about "personal responsibility avoiders" some of us don't need some off planet redeemer to behave well.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: foggyb on November 23, 2013, 06:01:15 PM
Why don't you use their race to spread your bigoted ideology? For example, "The whites came and destroyed everything."

It would be the same argument, and you'd look just as foolish to anyone with a brain.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
...that is completely not true, yeah "strategic", it was strategic to nuke Japan twice altough they were on the verge of surrendering, not mentioning they nuked civilians and not military targets
...

How to keep your civilians a bit safer:

1. Don't start wars.
2. After starting a war and finding yourself in a hopeless predicament, surrender immediately.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 06:14:01 PM
"god deniers"? really?

the Christians came in, murdering and enslaving my people, systematically stamping out our existing religious tradition.

How about "personal responsibility avoiders" some of us don't need some off planet redeemer to behave well.

Who are your people?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
"god deniers"? really?

the Christians came in, murdering and enslaving my people, systematically stamping out our existing religious tradition.

How about "personal responsibility avoiders" some of us don't need some off planet redeemer to behave well.

Who are your people?

Northern Europeans, but the story is much the same throughout the world.  Others are, in a way, more lucky in that the conquest was recent enough that they can salvage some semblance of their heritage from memory.  Our traditions were so thoroughly hunted out for so long that we have very little to go on to reclaim it.  Mostly just the fantasies of Victorian occultists.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: mprep on November 23, 2013, 06:20:01 PM
"god deniers"? really?

the Christians came in, murdering and enslaving my people, systematically stamping out our existing religious tradition.

How about "personal responsibility avoiders" some of us don't need some off planet redeemer to behave well.
Already said but I guess I have to repeat. Murdering not for religion, just for getting material possessions, enslaving not for religion, for even more material gain, stamping out existing religious tradition, not for their own religion, but for disrespect to other opinions and religions. Religion is often used as cover for dastardly deeds.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 06:25:17 PM
"god deniers"? really?

the Christians came in, murdering and enslaving my people, systematically stamping out our existing religious tradition.

How about "personal responsibility avoiders" some of us don't need some off planet redeemer to behave well.

Who are your people?

Northern Europeans, but the story is much the same throughout the world.  Others are, in a way, more lucky in that the conquest was recent enough that they can salvage some semblance of their heritage from memory.  Our traditions were so thoroughly hunted out for so long that we have very little to go on to reclaim it.  Mostly just the fantasies of Victorian occultists.

Wait.  Now i'm confused.  Northern Europe?  Who are your people?  What timeframe are we talking about?  Could i have a specific so i could address it?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
I refer to the animist and druidic traditions of Celtic Europe.  The early Christians weren't so bad, a few crackpot monks wandering around, started getting bad around 380ish.

Is it silly to be bitter about it?  maybe, but the desert male redeemer cult does not appeal to me in the least.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
I refer to the animist and druidic traditions of Celtic Europe.  The early Christians weren't so bad, a few crackpot monks wandering around, started getting bad around 380ish.

Is it silly to be bitter about it?  maybe, but the desert male redeemer cult does not appeal to me in the least.

Wait.  Christians pwning Druids around 380 AD?  I'm not a history buff, could you please point me to what you are talking about?  I'm intrigued.
Did the Killer Christians belong to some nation, or were they just roving, murderous monks?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: foggyb on November 23, 2013, 06:59:39 PM
I refer to the animist and druidic traditions of Celtic Europe.  The early Christians weren't so bad, a few crackpot monks wandering around, started getting bad around 380ish.

Is it silly to be bitter about it?  maybe, but the desert male redeemer cult does not appeal to me in the least.

The 'desert male redeemer' voluntarily allowed a gang of thugs to torture and kill him. Just before he died he asked that they be forgiven because they 'don't know what they're doing'.

That's the benchmark. He hated the sick deeds of crackpots, just like you do, and called them out on their hypocrisy. But he understood it was the human condition that needed fixing.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
I refer to the animist and druidic traditions of Celtic Europe.  The early Christians weren't so bad, a few crackpot monks wandering around, started getting bad around 380ish.

Is it silly to be bitter about it?  maybe, but the desert male redeemer cult does not appeal to me in the least.

Wait.  Christians pwning Druids around 380 AD?  I'm not a history buff, could you please point me to what you are talking about?  I'm intrigued.
Did the Killer Christians belong to some nation, or were they just roving, murderous monks?


its a long sordid story, way too long to tell here

the main body of the druids were actually destroyed by pre Christian Romans on the island of Anglesey in 61AD but the traditions survived among the population for several centuries after that.  There were other Wiccan and animist traditions across Europe at the time.

Later the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, starting under Constantine in 312 but really getting with it under Theodosius in 380 who outlawed all pagan practice.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 07:07:04 PM
its a long sordid story, way too long to tell here

the main body of the druids were actually destroyed by pre Christian Romans on the island of Anglesey in 61AD but the traditions survived among the population for several centuries after that.  There were other Wiccan and animist traditions across Europe at the time.

Later the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, starting under Constantine in 312 but really getting with it under Theodosius in 380 who outlawed all pagan practice.

So...  The Romans, who were not Christian at the time (and were using Christians as lion treats), pwnt some Druids.  Christianity responsible.  Amirite?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
Reading comprehension fail?  I said the traditions survived the battle of Anglesey.  After 380 the Holy Roman Empire embarked on a genocidal campaign against indigenous pagan practice, to the point that today we don't even really know what tit looked like.  And don't think the church of Rome was the only culprit.  Even after the reformation of the 15th century Protestants had a hell of a hard on for weeding out the last vestiges of the practice.

We are talking about over a thousand years of systematic repression, torture and murder.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
Reading comprehension fail?  I said the traditions survived the battle of Anglesey.  After 380 the Holy Roman Empire embarked on a genocidal campaign against indigenous pagan practice, to the point that today we don't even really know what tit looked like.  And don't think the church of Rome was the only culprit.  Even after the reformation of the 15th century Protestants had a hell of a hard on for weeding out the last vestiges of the practice.

We are talking about over a thousand years of systematic repression, torture and murder.

No.  No reading comprehension fails here.  The Romans, who were pwning Druids before Rome became a Christendom, continued to i'm in ur base killing ur Druids.  Most of ur d00ds were killed by the same Romans before Christianity was even a thing, according to your post.

If i go around drowning kittens in the name of Beelzebub, and then keep doing it in the name of Bitcoin, is Bitcoin responsible for all the killing?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
ok, I see why your ignore button is so dark


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
ok, I see why your ignore button is so dark

...
If i go around drowning kittens in the name of Beelzebub, and then keep doing it in the name of Bitcoin, is Bitcoin responsible for all the killing?


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
you fixate on one event, against one, of many, traditions and ignore that the same stuff is going on 1500 years later

done with you crumb


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: crumbs on November 23, 2013, 08:01:20 PM
you fixate on one event, against one, of many, traditions and ignore that the same stuff is going on 1500 years later

done with you crumb

I fixate on the event you used as your example of Christians killing your people (you still didn't tell me who they are).

When i asked you what, exactly, you were referring to, it became obvious that you simply made shit up.  It turned out that, even according to you, your people were killed off by pagan Romans, who simply continued slaughtering your people after Constantine's conversion in the year 312.
Rome itself remained pagan for another 79 years, when Christianity became Rome's official religion.  Your knowledge of history is as shabby as mine.

Think before you attack.  Get your facts straight.  Don't resort to personal insults, and people might take you seriously.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: dank on November 24, 2013, 01:54:23 AM
NOTE: I am not a religious person at all. I believe in nothing but my curiosity and my *whole* conscious.
Well that's good you believe in god.


Title: Re: Goddamnit...
Post by: Malongo on November 24, 2013, 02:55:26 AM
what's so bad about trolling a religious nut?

I trolled so hard...

No, you did not.

You like Slayer? Your LIFE!
He feels offended? His bad.
Who cares?

Only because  one believes in this "God" (no, i reallt DON'T) doesnt give anyone the right, to treat a non believer different.
Religions are a fucking Shit but if someone wants to believe in that crap, feel free to do it.