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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 05:38:01 AM



Title: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 05:38:01 AM
If this is a loan you can accomodate please PM me and we can discuss the details of why I am asking as well as more of a payback should the .5 BTC not be enough which given current pricing I feel is fair (yes I know pricin can be worth less upon payback), I can say this much publicly though.

It would be paid back sometime late April, possibly early May of 2014... I say this to scare off the lurkers even though this timeline is accurate. Anyway, as for reassurances... I have no collateral to speak of that would be worth using. What I am willing to do is all of the following, and anything else you might suggest that would make you feel comfortable loaning me 1.5 BTC.

1) Provide full name, address and home landline number
2) Copy of photo ID & SS card with everything but the first three digits blacked out.
3) Goto a lawyer of your choosing in Meadville Pa, 16335 with a statement of your writing declaring terms and have it signed in witness of said lawyer and notorized by said lawyer.

The last one should if anything get some of you considering this but I will quite literally put my ass on the line for the 1.5 BTC loan.

Ty for, if nothing else... taking the time to read this.

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Edit: Full details disclosed... figured it's gonna ome ou one way or another and it might help me in some way get the loan. Invoice image removed to protect personal info. Image will / can be provided via PM to genuinely interested lenders, Ty.

I would ike to request a loan of 1.5 BTC to be paid back around April, possibly early May of 2014 if not sooner meaning sometime in late mid to late March.

The reason I am looking for the 1.5 BTC loan is to pre-order 4 more of the prospero X1's from Black Arrow. I already have 6 fully paid for giving a total of 600Ghs at the cost of $1,867. So as you can see, the ability / means to pay back is there with what I have already ordered and paid for in full, the other four units which would give me 400 more Ghs for a total of 1Ths and that only goes to shorten the payback time frame making it sooner rather than later as mentioned above in the first sentence.

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Image removed to protect personal info, will provide invoice copy to genuinely interested lenders via PM.

With the four I would be buying with the loan, that will as I just said give me a total of 1Ths, now yes, I know difficulty will be signifigantly higher by this time when the equipment is received sometime in March 2014. However, 1TH of mining though is still more than enough to pay back a 1.5 BTC loan with a gratuity / interest of at least .5 for a total of 2 BTC inside of 30-40 days if not much sooner. This is also why I said it would be paid back by late April, early May 2014. To make sure enough time is had to generate the amount to be paid back plus accomodate any possible shipping delays. Realistically, if the equipment is received by Marh 14th which allows for a little over 2 weeks to deliver with BA's mentioned availability date of 2/24/14. I don't see any reason why the loan shouldnt be paid back by early April, again though to accomodate for any shipping delays and difficulty, this is as I said before why I mention late April, possibly early May.

Now I don't have anything in the way of collateral and I know from your perspective that taking a chance on someone can go either way but you can see I have already put out a signiigant amount of my own money and am just seeking a small investment to increase my power some.

Ty for your time and consideration.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Tansen on December 05, 2013, 05:41:11 AM
Why don't you just ask for a 2k bank loan, probably easier than this, not assuming your particularly shady.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 05:47:32 AM
Why don't you just ask for a 2k bank loan, probably easier than this, not assuming your particularly shady.
I respect what you said and didn't take it wrong, I have considered that and not to make matters worse which it might for some considering but my credits not so hot right now.

Edit: I can prove though via PM that the loan will be easily rapaid on time.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Tomatocage on December 05, 2013, 06:20:28 AM
I can supply this loan right now for 65 LTC collateral. PM me for the deposit address.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 06:23:37 AM
I can supply this loan right now for 65 LTC collateral. PM me for the deposit address.
I honestly wish I had that but I don't, outside of 0.045 BTC right now I have I think 0.09 NMC saved up in my BitMinter account.

Thx for the thought though.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Vod on December 05, 2013, 03:36:51 PM
but I will quite literally put my ass on the line for the 1.5 BTC loan.

Care to explain what this means?  If you don't have collateral, the chances of you repaying are slim, no matter what saying you use.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 03:59:08 PM
but I will quite literally put my ass on the line for the 1.5 BTC loan.

Care to explain what this means?  If you don't have collateral, the chances of you repaying are slim, no matter what saying you use.
By making it all legal like with a contract signed by me witnessed by a lawyer of the loaners choosing in Meadville pa drafted / written  by the loaner.

Also, I know a lot of people say this and don't mean shit but I always pay my debts... and like I said, I can prove via pm that it will be easily repaid.

Also my chances of repaying aren't slim they're pretty damn good but if that's what u or others wish to believe bec of rude people that burned you then more power to ya. I'm not here to force a loan, just try and get one.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Vod on December 05, 2013, 04:37:40 PM
Also, I know a lot of people say this and don't mean shit but I always pay my debts... and like I said, I can prove via pm that it will be easily repaid.

How can you prove you will repay?  Or is that just another saying, like "literally" putting your ass on the line?


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
Also, I know a lot of people say this and don't mean shit but I always pay my debts... and like I said, I can prove via pm that it will be easily repaid.

How can you prove you will repay?  Or is that just another saying, like "literally" putting your ass on the line?
With all due respect, if you wana be a smart ass because of people whove fucked you over then just leave me and my thread alone because you obviously have no genuine concern about wantin to help me.

What matters is I said I can prove it which I can and will via PM to a genuinely interested loaner. As for putting my ass on the line, I've already explained that but you don't seem to value our legal system very high.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Vod on December 05, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Also, I know a lot of people say this and don't mean shit but I always pay my debts... and like I said, I can prove via pm that it will be easily repaid.

How can you prove you will repay?  Or is that just another saying, like "literally" putting your ass on the line?
With all due respect, if you wana be a smart ass because of people whove fucked you over then just leave me and my thread alone because you obviously have no genuine concern about wantin to help me.

What matters is I said I can prove it which I can and will via PM to a genuinely interested loaner. As for putting my ass on the line, I've already explained that but you don't seem to value our legal system very high.

I'm asking the same questions everyone else is thinking, so someone needs to ask.  How can you prove you will repay?  A legal document is useless unless the person is willing to go through the time and hassle of suing you.  So if you want to make it more likely to get a loan, answer the simple question of proof of repayment.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
Also, I know a lot of people say this and don't mean shit but I always pay my debts... and like I said, I can prove via pm that it will be easily repaid.

How can you prove you will repay?  Or is that just another saying, like "literally" putting your ass on the line?
With all due respect, if you wana be a smart ass because of people whove fucked you over then just leave me and my thread alone because you obviously have no genuine concern about wantin to help me.

What matters is I said I can prove it which I can and will via PM to a genuinely interested loaner. As for putting my ass on the line, I've already explained that but you don't seem to value our legal system very high.

I'm asking the same questions everyone else is thinking, so someone needs to ask.  How can you prove you will repay?  A legal document is useless unless the person is willing to go through the time and hassle of suing you.  So if you want to make it more likely to get a loan, answer the simple question of proof of repayment.
As I said in my post, said proof will be provided to a genuinely interested person via PM. It's no something that needs to be hidden from public view, I just choose not to make too much of my life public... that and said proof might be judged by some but either way I will discuss it via PM to those genuinely interesed in trying to help and would ask that they not come back to this post and do something like...

HAHA, this is what his proof is... hahaha.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Vod on December 05, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
As I said in my post, said proof will be provided to a genuinely interested person via PM. It's no something that needs to be hidden from public view, I just choose not to make too much of my life public... that and said proof might be judged by some but either way I will discuss it via PM to those genuinely interesed in trying to help and would ask that they not come back to this post and do something like...

HAHA, this is what his proof is... hahaha.

Well, you sent the info via PM, and while I won't reveal the details, it is not proof you will repay. 

You'll probably need to provide $2,400 of collateral (2btc worth) before people will loan you anything.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 06:02:16 PM
As I said in my post, said proof will be provided to a genuinely interested person via PM. It's no something that needs to be hidden from public view, I just choose not to make too much of my life public... that and said proof might be judged by some but either way I will discuss it via PM to those genuinely interesed in trying to help and would ask that they not come back to this post and do something like...

HAHA, this is what his proof is... hahaha.

Well, you sent the info via PM, and while I won't reveal the details, it is not proof you will repay.  

You'll probably need to provide $2,400 of collateral (2btc worth) before people will loan you anything.
It might not be proof I will repay because all I have is my word which yes I know it doesn't mean much for past burns by other people and the fact you / anyone doesn't really know me. I do feel though that its enough proof that the loan would be easily repaid should I be an honest person which I am and yes I know everyone says that lol.

Like I said before though, if I had collatreal I'd gladly use it.

It's also why I'm willing to do all the legal stuff, but as you said, it would mean someone actually coming after me whih they probably wouldnt to any serious sextent should the loan not be repaid which it would.

I am willing to do more than your average person to get the loan which should convey some level of sincerity (sp?).


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: monbux on December 05, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
but I will quite literally put my ass on the line for the 1.5 BTC loan.

Care to explain what this means?  If you don't have collateral, the chances of you repaying are slim, no matter what saying you use.

Didn't you read it?  He'll put some sort of prostitution up, to pay off the debt ;D
@ OP, Inrder for us to get you to go to a lawyer, it'll be wasting many hours of the lender's time to get everything arranged.  So, no.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 09:40:07 PM
but I will quite literally put my ass on the line for the 1.5 BTC loan.

Care to explain what this means?  If you don't have collateral, the chances of you repaying are slim, no matter what saying you use.

Didn't you read it?  He'll put some sort of prostitution up, to pay off the debt ;D
@ OP, Inrder for us to get you to go to a lawyer, it'll be wasting many hours of the lender's time to get everything arranged.  So, no.
I already said id go to a lawyer and sign a statement of repayment... obviously this would be before a loan is initiated. The lender would get to pick the lawyer I goto from meadville pa 16335.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Walter Rothbard on December 05, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
Why don't you just ask for a 2k bank loan, probably easier than this, not assuming your particularly shady.
I respect what you said and didn't take it wrong, I have considered that and not to make matters worse which it might for some considering but my credits not so hot right now.

Edit: I can prove though via PM that the loan will be easily rapaid on time.

I've come to think of you as a friend and fellow bitminter, so I clicked on this thread when I noticed your name.  But I have to point out that nobody can prove they will repay a loan.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 09:48:53 PM
Why don't you just ask for a 2k bank loan, probably easier than this, not assuming your particularly shady.
I respect what you said and didn't take it wrong, I have considered that and not to make matters worse which it might for some considering but my credits not so hot right now.

Edit: I can prove though via PM that the loan will be easily rapaid on time.

I've come to think of you as a friend and fellow bitminter, so I clicked on this thread when I noticed your name.  But I have to point out that nobody can prove they will repay a loan.
What I keep saying is I can prove its easily repaid... if no one wants to believe me or take a chance on an honest person then w/e, I'm at least trying to offer assurance that no scammer ever would but hey. If some of u wana think of me as a scammer without knowin me then more power to u.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Walter Rothbard on December 05, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
Why don't you just ask for a 2k bank loan, probably easier than this, not assuming your particularly shady.
I respect what you said and didn't take it wrong, I have considered that and not to make matters worse which it might for some considering but my credits not so hot right now.

Edit: I can prove though via PM that the loan will be easily rapaid on time.

I've come to think of you as a friend and fellow bitminter, so I clicked on this thread when I noticed your name.  But I have to point out that nobody can prove they will repay a loan.
What I keep saying is I can prove its easily repaid... if no one wants to believe me or take a chance on an honest person then w/e, I'm at least trying to offer assurance that no scammer ever would but hey. If some of u wana think of me as a scammer without knowin me then more power to u.

I'm not calling you a scammer.  I am just saying that it is impossible to prove what you are saying you can prove.

Several months back TangibleCryptography made a big post here looking for BTC loans.  They gave a lot of evidence to show themselves trustworthy and reliable.  I find them to be trustworthy and reliable.  They still can't prove they will pay back a loan.  Nobody can do that.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 05, 2013, 10:05:05 PM
didn't mean to make it sound like I said u were callin me a scammer so sorry. But like I said, I never said I can prove repayment even though I would repay... what I have been saying is I can prove that its easily repaid which are two different things.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: KWH on December 05, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
didn't mean to make it sound like I said u were callin me a scammer so sorry. But like I said, I never said I can prove repayment even though I would repay... what I have been saying is I can prove that its easily repaid which are two different things.

In light of all the hassle of lawyer this, papers that, it wouldn't be worth it to give you a loan based on this. Your best bet is to seek a local bank loan or apply for one of those high interest credit cards. If you have a car, look for a title loan. Pawn all you can scrape up until you reach your goal. Good luck!


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 06, 2013, 12:07:25 AM
didn't mean to make it sound like I said u were callin me a scammer so sorry. But like I said, I never said I can prove repayment even though I would repay... what I have been saying is I can prove that its easily repaid which are two different things.

In light of all the hassle of lawyer this, papers that, it wouldn't be worth it to give you a loan based on this. Your best bet is to seek a local bank loan or apply for one of those high interest credit cards. If you have a car, look for a title loan. Pawn all you can scrape up until you reach your goal. Good luck!
if I had other options id use emm, if I get a loan here then great and if I don't atleast I tried / am trying.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: Walter Rothbard on December 06, 2013, 03:10:21 AM
didn't mean to make it sound like I said u were callin me a scammer so sorry.

No problem - I'm not offended.  I just see lots of interesting claims made on these loan threads, and since I happened to click on this one, I wanted to interject.  I probably shouldn't have.

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But like I said, I never said I can prove repayment even though I would repay... what I have been saying is I can prove that its easily repaid which are two different things.

Okay, I think I understand now - proof of ability to repay.  From your initial wording, I got the wrong idea.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 06, 2013, 03:21:28 AM
didn't mean to make it sound like I said u were callin me a scammer so sorry.

No problem - I'm not offended.  I just see lots of interesting claims made on these loan threads, and since I happened to click on this one, I wanted to interject.  I probably shouldn't have.

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But like I said, I never said I can prove repayment even though I would repay... what I have been saying is I can prove that its easily repaid which are two different things.

Okay, I think I understand now - proof of ability to repay.  From your initial wording, I got the wrong idea.
Exactly, as of right now, even without the loan to do what I want, I have the proof of ability to repay and what the loan would be used for would only sttrengthen such proof. If I could at least get your consideration, I'd show you my "proof" via PM and we can discuss options ;-)


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: devthedev on December 06, 2013, 03:02:46 PM
Wouldn't it be better if the deals were made publicly instead of within a PM?


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 06, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
Wouldn't it be better if the deals were made publicly instead of within a PM?
Coin transactions etc can be made public fine but why I need the coin etc doesnt need to. Even though it's nothing bad or dirty, the whole world knowing why I am requesting wouldnt help my chances in getting the loan from any speific lender which gets full details via PM.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: devthedev on December 06, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
Wouldn't it be better if the deals were made publicly instead of within a PM?
Coin transactions etc can be made public fine but why I need the coin etc doesnt need to. Even though it's nothing bad or dirty, the whole world knowing why I am requesting wouldnt help my chances in getting the loan from any speific lender which gets full details via PM.

Makes sense.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 06, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
Now to just find a lender heh


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: devthedev on December 06, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
Now to just find a lender heh

I would if I had more than 2BTC to my name.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 07, 2013, 12:45:09 AM
Updated the original post disclosing full details of this request, if the new disclosure helps to show I'm not trying to hide anything then great, and as always, if not then at leat I tried.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 12, 2013, 05:40:04 AM
Workin on some other things to try and get this done, but in the meantime, just givin a bump to bring it back up even if I end up needin collateral which is one of the other things I mentioned.

Either way I'm hopeful.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: monbux on December 12, 2013, 09:02:49 PM
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I already have 6 fully paid for giving a total of 600Ghs at the cost of $1,867.

100 GH/s = $311?  So you can break even in a week or so?  I've never heard of something that cheap...
Another question, why doesn't someone just go off and buy their own 400GH/s off this site?
I've seen your browsing around the lending section warning other users, forgot that you had a loan request of your own ;D


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 12, 2013, 10:27:45 PM
Another question, why doesn't someone just go off and buy their own 400GH/s off this site?
That's on them, some people don't like preorders but I'm fine with it, the way I managed to get the funds with buying and selling stuff. I can easily say my cost is nil. So technially everything I do make when I get the units would be solid profit bu even looking at the $1,867 I spent, $1,912 after bank fees. I'll break even in a month, month n  half with a bitch of a diff by the time I receive the equipment.

I've seen your browsing around the lending section warning other users, forgot that you had a loan request of your own ;D
I havent done much warning, just talkin bout stuff like the guy lookin for BTC for kids. One person said somethin bout buying it and showing them a receipt. Then I said something about it wouldnt be hard or that person to do that, get the BTC then just go back to the store and return the items. If I get my loan great, if not then at least I tried, but unlike a lot of other people here. I dont harp on it with please please please, trust me ill pay back and all that jazz that a lot of ohers do. I'm not hard up for the loan, just would be cool if I got it.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: PumpAndDumper on December 13, 2013, 03:57:10 AM
THIS ALL SEEMS FISHY


http://i42.tinypic.com/qoeiqu.jpg


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 13, 2013, 04:03:54 AM
THIS ALL SEEMS FISHY
So wash between your legs better next time you shower... you don't see me crying waa please fund me waa do you ?

If me showing self restraint and not caring one way or the other if I get the loan (even though yes, I'd like it) yells fishy to you then you my friend, have a good batch of weed I'd like to invest in !


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: PumpAndDumper on December 13, 2013, 04:16:34 AM
THIS ALL SEEMS FISHY
So wash between your legs better next time you shower... you don't see me crying waa please fund me waa do you ?

If me showing self restraint and not caring one way or the other if I get the loan (even though yes, I'd like it) yells fishy to you then you my friend, have a good batch of weed I'd like to invest in !


No need for insults, asshole.

Get a life and figure out a better way to scam people.




Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 13, 2013, 05:49:52 AM
Ok, my insult was harsh... but you cant say you didnt insult me first.

If I wanted to scam someone which I don't, I'd sure as hell be trying harder and not have a care free feeling on whether or not I get the loan even though as I said before it would be nice if I did.

I've been on these forums a tad lonegr than you so don't pretend to know me and assume I'm a scammer. I have yet to call anyone here one, worst I have done is just voice an opinion or two.


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: monbux on December 13, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Another question, why doesn't someone just go off and buy their own 400GH/s off this site?
That's on them, some people don't like preorders but I'm fine with it, the way I managed to get the funds with buying and selling stuff. I can easily say my cost is nil. So technially everything I do make when I get the units would be solid profit bu even looking at the $1,867 I spent, $1,912 after bank fees. I'll break even in a month, month n  half with a bitch of a diff by the time I receive the equipment.

I've seen your browsing around the lending section warning other users, forgot that you had a loan request of your own ;D
I havent done much warning, just talkin bout stuff like the guy lookin for BTC for kids. One person said somethin bout buying it and showing them a receipt. Then I said something about it wouldnt be hard or that person to do that, get the BTC then just go back to the store and return the items. If I get my loan great, if not then at least I tried, but unlike a lot of other people here. I dont harp on it with please please please, trust me ill pay back and all that jazz that a lot of ohers do. I'm not hard up for the loan, just would be cool if I got it.

That's all cool.  Currently I have invested most in cloud mining on CEX.io, so I am pretty cool with bitcoin mining.  I would usually not fund a loan in bitcoins is there is no real collateral being offered, but good luck!


Title: Re: Looking for 1.5 BTC, will pay back 2 BTC...
Post by: MoreBloodWine on December 13, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
Another question, why doesn't someone just go off and buy their own 400GH/s off this site?
That's on them, some people don't like preorders but I'm fine with it, the way I managed to get the funds with buying and selling stuff. I can easily say my cost is nil. So technially everything I do make when I get the units would be solid profit bu even looking at the $1,867 I spent, $1,912 after bank fees. I'll break even in a month, month n  half with a bitch of a diff by the time I receive the equipment.

I've seen your browsing around the lending section warning other users, forgot that you had a loan request of your own ;D
I havent done much warning, just talkin bout stuff like the guy lookin for BTC for kids. One person said somethin bout buying it and showing them a receipt. Then I said something about it wouldnt be hard or that person to do that, get the BTC then just go back to the store and return the items. If I get my loan great, if not then at least I tried, but unlike a lot of other people here. I dont harp on it with please please please, trust me ill pay back and all that jazz that a lot of ohers do. I'm not hard up for the loan, just would be cool if I got it.

That's all cool.  Currently I have invested most in cloud mining on CEX.io, so I am pretty cool with bitcoin mining.  I would usually not fund a loan in bitcoins is there is no real collateral being offered, but good luck!
Thx, I looked at cex for a bit but I just couldnt justify spending 2 grand and not getting close to a third of what I have on preorder.