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Satoshi Nakamoto holds 980,000 Bitcoins.. does anyone know their addresses so we know if he/she/they are active in the market? I would guess Bitcoin is their baby and they wouldn't do anything to manipulate the prices and hurt Bitcoin. But would they be taking corrective measures to fight off some of the other whales?

Its kinda weird question but interesting to me if Satoshi Nakamoto is still "alive" and watching.

Yes.

There are multiple addresses associated with Satoshi.

The first would be the address to which the first block award, called the "genesis block", was sent to: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa)

Then there is his/her main address, which has the $900+k you mentioned. I don't know the address for that on and a quick Google search didn't help, but if you download Bitcoin Core you can scroll to the beginning of time in Bitcoin world and find the wallet addresses used for the very first transactions...one of those is owned by Satoshi.

Finally, Satoshi created this forum and has an account here...he/she may have an bitcoin address posted on their profile, check for yourself: Satoshi's Profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3)

Thanks for the idea. I am new to this so not very technical yet. Has anyone done this research before to see if they have been active exchanging? They certainly haven't been active on this forum since 2010.

There is no such "main" address. All the bitcoins thought to be owned by satoshi are still held by the addresses in the coinbase transactions of the blocks that he mined. That means that there are 10 - 20 thousand addresses thought to be controlled by satoshi.

The addresses in question are known (that's where the estimates comes from) and I suppose there are people watching them.

Other from the Genesis Block as illustrated, may I add that even if Satoshi Nakomoto is holding 980,000 Bitcoins and he is still alive today witnessing varied ordules, He can not solely do anything again to stop or combat this, He can only give probably the most technological and sophisticated advice since he is the Block Chain initiator just like every other user since he has started it and left it for every users, Minners, stakers , Traders, even investors and so many others who are interested in it to tap from its potentialities. This case is just like any automobile vehicle maker or producer who can not or never control the driver during driving saved precautionary safety advise or Driving method analysis to avoid/shun accidents or dangers that may likely occur.

Where do you know Satoshi is holding 980000 bitcoins? I don't think any one knows the addresses belong to Satoshi. So the number of coins Satoshi owns is also unknown.

Yes I dont know for sure. I have read some articles where it said he holds 980000 or 5% of Bitcoins.

I believe that satoshi nakamoto has a lot of bitcoin, and I still believe that satoshi nakamoto is alive and certainly satoshi nakamoto will keep the future progress of bitcoin.

But we do not know for sure if he is really alive and well in this world with a lot of Bitcoin in his hand. All he has left is the addresses that as far as I know is untouched and we do not know who owns them now. I think if Satoshi Nakamoto owned that adresses, and he is still alive I guess he will be using it.

It is only natural that satoshi nakamoto has bitcoin to that much, and I believe that the satoshi nakamoto will save the price with the bitcoin that satoshi has.

Here is where the estimates comes from: https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/

Note there is no way to know precisely which blocks were mined by satoshi, so different people have come up with different numbers.

This is new information for me. Thank you for sharing in this topic.
I am also curious, right now what is the actual balance that Satoshi has?

Bitcoin address of Satoshi Nakamoto, no one knows and will ever know. Because Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't exist. I am sure that under this name worked a large group of developers from Japan. There may be a few dozen people.

Blokchain is decentralized, so no one know the own of any BTC adress. Morever, i think Satoshi is a group, not only one person. I think top 10 Altcoin (2016,2017 table) are "Satoshi Nakamoto". They creat Blockchain, creat BTC first and then. they creat another altcoin. You can see the code of top 10, they are the same

No one knows for sure since his holdings are split up over thousands of addresses. Satoshi himself mined the earliest blocks and hasn't moved the coins yet. However, with that being said, Satoshi Likely wasn't the only miner in early 2009. There had to have been a few extra anonymous early miners and they too likely never moved the coins they mined and disregarded their private keys. I mean back then Bitcoins were worthless and at the time it seemed just like a cool tech experiment/proof of concept.

Harold Thomas Finney II, a southern California coder, was Satoshi. He claimed to have received the first transaction from Satoshi just a few days after the genesis block. I think he sent the transaction to himself. Satoshi used a @gmx.com mail address. Finney was the very first person to post on the Sourceforge page of Bitcoin using a @gmx.com address. His vernacular and writing style are almost identical to the posts of Satoshi.

Finney knew in late 2009 that he was dying of ALS. The “Satoshi” persona was a necessary creation to remove him from the limelight. Bitcoin was too much for him to control while dealing with the onset of a terminal disease. He turned over the alert keys to Gavin Andresen and backed away from an active role in the development of his creation.

He knew his creation would never be trusted if most of the initially mined “testing” coins were ever to show up on the market so those coins were never spent. He may have intentionally disposed of the private keys to many of the addresses to ensure they would never hurt his brainchild. Some of the coins he mined in the beginning were used to pay for medical bills and cryogenic preservation of his body after his death. Those “Satoshi” addresses are as dead as Hal Finney.

Hal Finney would be my favorite pick out of the candidates for being Satoshi. He was an amazing inspiring person without the Satoshi identity.

Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0) is one of the posts he wrote.

We should give this person/group some privacy - after all, he/she/they created something super great for us, don't you think?

You touched upon an interesting topic. The money that's in his accounts. I think he's not going to ruin the market of bitcoin. They say that his wallet for all this time did not transfer any coins to other wallets. So now do not panic. As for the account on this forum, I think it's just a coincidence.

Those Bitcoins are a "Security Bounty", at least in my mind. They are an incentive to target weaknesses in the protocol and will certainly cause enough panic to get those holes patched. I doubt Satoshi will ever come back and grab those old addresses. It will almost certainly be an attacker; it will certainly be a historical event in terms of security and fear within the community. Might just be a conspiracy theory of mine, but it's a fun story if it plays out the way it is in my head.

What would be a problem is if his addresses were brute forced (to succesfully find the private key to one or more of his addresses) because that would mean that bitcoin is indeed vulnerable and that could bring the price to virtually zero....if satoshi(if alive) instead wanted to spend his bitcoins there would be an initial panic-selling but price would recover quickly enough. after all even satoshi has the right to spend his bitcoins, NO? if satoshi(or his relatives) wanted to transfer/spend the bitcoins he should announce it in an anonimous message telling everybody not to worry after all.do you agree with me?

After all i think he is probably dead or hiding or he lost(or never saved) his private keys . i hope for the hiding option

i had a look at this forum (that he founded) and his second last post is in december 2010 when he said that he didn't like the attention that wikileaks had brought to bitcoin. "the swarm is coming towards us" he said. then he disappeared. Gavin Andersen said that the last time he excahnged a message with him was when he told satoshi that he had been called by the CIA for an interview.....i think he was very scared. but we don't know what happened to him. maybe we will find out somehow

The technology consultant is increasingly sophisticated since he's been the initiator of Block Chain just like every other user since he started it and let it down to every user, minners, stakers, traders, even Investors and many others interested in it to tap from its potential. So the amount of money that Satoshi possessed is unknown. I do not know who he is. Because Satoshi Nakamoto does not exist. Blokchain is hierarchical, so no one knows for sure about any BTC addresses

To be exact, an anonymous tenant is holding 980,000 Bitcoins, no one knows for sure who the owner is! Finding this person will greatly affect the Bitcoin community and altcoin!

No one know and I think this is no body ever know the addresses of Satoshi Nakamoto.
How you know if Sathosi Nakamoto hold 980,000 of bitcoin? because I think there is no body know for sure about HE/SHE.

Well, if he holds 980,000 btc and each block gives a reward of 50 btc we can deduce his address from the first blocks...


So, the first 19600 blocks was mined by satoshi and to search those address you can start from: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/0 to https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/19600

Do it manually could take you lot of time, i recommend you to code a script who make the job for you if you really want those addys.

*I could be wrong because not sure at what block people start mining.

Everything was just a speculation and so nothing is certain. All we can see are addresses that store huge amount of bitcoin and we didn't know if it's controlled neither by individual and corporate. So despite of the information that we knew, why we keep on digging it?
However, this is what made bitcoin great as ever that banks and government can't give. A full privacy that we're all been waiting.

Actualy, we know.
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

There are just 3 (single) addresses holding more than 100.000 btc, and they belong to major exchanges. Soon to be 5 addresses, but still.

Probably satoshi’s btc are splitted in different utxo, stored in different addresses.... on a wallet that even more probably is lost forever :)

I think everyone who has that much bitcoin must be tracked and it won't be hide.
But in my opinion, satoshi is not just a one man person. It must be a group of people

Very interesting topic. Whenever i watch over his profile, i believe he is hereabouts among this community with a different profile name but impossible to identify from which profile he writes, the same way there will be different answers upon satoshi's owned addresses but it is not easy to guess which addresses satoshi nakamoto owns

No one really knows how much Bitcoin he holds or whether he holds atall. The whole thing is based on assumption that some of the oldest Bitcoin addresses which have loads of unmoved Bitcoin is owned by Satoshi. Nobody is certain.

A good Cryptocurency developer deserves reasonable amount of Coins whether from premined or donations. It is the only way to incentivize a dev since  Blockchain is collectively owned by users

Nobody knows if he is even alive. While some of those addresses are certainly his, no one knows how many of those private keys actually got lost.
There's a chance that a big amount of those Bitcoin still can be accessed, but it is somehow protected so it could be only accessed by Satoshi's successors some many years later - it's possible that this is what Craig Wright wanted to access when he tried to impersonate Satoshi.

This information is quite interesting, here are some bitcoin not holes. If any investor has it, he is definitely a fish and can make waves on the bitcoin price chart. I really do not know where Satoshi Nakamoto. But I'm sure he is living happily with his family and with the bitcoin he has.

It will be no wonder that he own that much bitcoins because he is the founder of bitcoin.
But i think we cannot trace his address unless he active using his address and he admit what address he is using.

Are you ready to hear the truth???

This Satoshi Nakamoto group STOLE the Bitcoin idea from me in 2009.

I'm the guy that came up with the idea for all of this and had it stolen from me by a group of programmers using the alias "Satoshi Nakamoto." Who these people are, I have no clue. All I can tell you is that I'm the guy that invented the idea. This took place on the forum Godlike Productions in 2009. The thread the idea was presented in was later deleted by Jason Lucas, the owner of Godlike Productions. So, that guy was absolutely involved in the theft of the idea.

I came up with pretty much every aspect of Bitcoin. This group added a few details when they programmed it, but the main core of the idea came from me. I never even heard of Bitcoin until the year 2012, or 2013.

1. I came up with the idea to start with 20,000,000 Coins. This group stole the idea and started with 21,000,000 coins. That's why there are 21 million Bitcoins (as opposed to a more logical number like 20 million), because they had to change the idea around to avoid the appearance of stealing my idea. I'm the reason they're called "coins."

2. I came up with the idea to use letters for the addresses. I'm the reason your Bitcoin addresses (and every other Cryptocurrency) use letters. As letters make it harder to determine and track the address due to having more combinations required to crack and trace. It also makes it impossible for 2 account numbers to be generated by different wallets at the same time due to there being more possible combinations. That was the main reason I suggested using letters in the address.  

3. I came up with the idea to use temporary addresses that would be deleted after every transaction. That's why your wallets constantly change the address. In order to keep your transactions from being traced by the authorities. My idea was actually superior to every Wallet in existence today, because I came up with the idea for the account holder to MAKE UP THEIR OWN ADDRESSES. I'll likely start my own wallet in the future based on this idea. Which, is really what the original idea was in the beginning and this group changed it around by having the wallets generate the address for you.


The concept of having a limited number of "coins" came from SAVINGS BONDS. As I received a $50 Savings Bond when I was kid from my grandparents. So, that's where the core of idea came from. Nothing new at all. It was based on Savings Bonds.


I invented this idea due to the fact that I made an illegal purchase of Cannabis Seeds on the internet with my Debit Card in the year 2006. This always made me paranoid that my transaction could be tracked by the authorities. This was the primary motivation for the creation of the idea of Bitcoin. This Satoshi Nakamoto group is nothing more than a complete FRAUD that simply programmed my idea into existence after I presented it on a public forum for all to see. 2 months after I presented the idea I was busted growing weed and had my life destroyed. Leaving me in a state of depression and causing me to focus on other issues. As I was facing prison time, as a result. So, I had more important issues to focus on then some idea about a new type of money and banking that I presented literally "off the top of my head" one day on a public forum. This idea wasn't planned out for a long time before presenting it. It was merely an idea I simply came up with off the top of my head one day while posting on Godlike Productions.


I'm requesting that this Satoshi Nakamoto group transfer half of those 1 million Bitcoins in that dormant wallet/s into my Binance account. This group is well aware of this request and is basically refusing to do it. If they continue to refuse compliance this issue will go into court. As I have a legal right to sue every single Exchange owner, Wallet owner, and large scale Coin owner in existence that profited from the trading of my idea without my permission. If you people wish for the Cryptocurrency market to continue as usual, I would highly recommend that you demand this Satoshi Nakamoto group comply with my request. As an Intellectual Property Theft lawsuit of this magnitude will surely scare away large investors into Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency in general until the conclusion of this lawsuit.  

Why do you think this Satoshi Nakamoto guy/group refused to reveal themselves all these years? It's because they're thieves and liars. That's the reason.

it all comes down to this. the 19600 blocks that you calculated above takes a lot more than 136 days because there are technically 144 blocks per day but if Satoshi was mining alone his hashrate couldn't have been high and the difficulty could not be below 1 so it took longer (as you can see from earlier blocks). so if we assume Satoshi was mining alone then we are saying for 5 months nobody even looked at bitcoin which is not right. there were people who showed interest from early days.

yeah, but we know that satoshi nakamoto didn't active anymore and forgetting what he have, if satoshi nakamoto make a movement that will make bitcoin market collapsed

I do not know the information about Satoshi's address, but the 980k BTC amount is very large, and can dump BTC prices up to 2k USD / BTC


I really like the posting information from this person
I just realized that Satoshi was the maker of this forum and last online was in 2010
a Bitcoin legend whose identity is very mysterious

Satoshi has kept his identity secret so this itself means that obviously how much btc even if held any would remain untraceable or cannot be known. Else who would not have like to come forward and say they invested this when he world is looking at Satoshi and still searching for them.

Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive, even though Satoshi Nakamoto may be in possession of that quantity of bitcoin, I think Satoshi may be holding it for The well being of the cryptocurrency community. Satoshi is not a greedy person.

Here is my 2 cents.  ::)

I do not believe Satoshi ever conceived that this experiment would become this successful and that bitcoins would become this valuable. I think he only mined coins in the beginning to get things going and he most probably lost most of the private keys for those mined coins. <This was just a testing exercise>

Remember, back then most of these coins was virtually worthless, so throwing them around and playing with them was not a big deal. Just imagine if Satoshi has to emerge now and admit that he lost all of the private keys for those coins that was mined in the early days.  ;D

where do you know if satoshi saved 980,000 bitcoins ?, I don't think anyone will know the address of satoshi, so I'm a little confused you can know the number of bitcoins that satoshi saved.

It's funny and quite sad at the same time! That is, it turns out that this is a loss of a huge state. which would entail a major change in the value of the coin! However, this is all unlikely!

Until now satoshi nakomoto is still unknown or no one can know that she or he the founder of the bitcoin. Even the bitcoin that they hold will not know also because if you see the bitcoin how many they have you will see also the address. But for me now is still impossible satoshi nakomoto to introduce their self and also their bitcoin and address of bitcoin she/she using.

I am really curious about habeb's post if that is really the address of satoshi. Upon checking then it has only 66btc in its wallet as i final balance therefore what op said is wrong that currenctly satoshi has  more than 900btc in its pocket.


Tho i would love to look the address that was given by habeb further to investigate.

A funny theory :D Hope you are right and we can consider that 900k BTC are removed from total supply.

If this news is healthy
I read it from the side of what I love to share with you

The man did not sell large quantities when the price reached $ 20k
That means he sees the price going up a lot.

He may not be able to touch it.

Ross Ulbricht went to prison for life because of operating Silk Road Dark Net market. Imagine how much prison time the guy that programmed the accounting system that Ross Ulbricht used on his site could be facing. Satoshi disappeared in mid-2011. This was around the time Ross Ulbricht opened up Silk Road and began selling illegal drugs using Bitcoin on the Deep Web. So, maybe Satoshi got spooked and decided to go underground because that's when people started using Bitcoin to do illegal things on the Deep Web. Mid-2011 is also the time when my Weed bust was being illegally thrown in court by the judge, the District Attorney, and my Attorney. As my apartment was searched illegally without a warrant and a fake warrant was presented in court.

The price of Bitcoin spiked on June 8th, 2011 and hit the all time high for that year of $31.50. That same day an Anonymous hacker by the name of Hector Monsegur was turned into an FBI informant following his arrest the previous day. June 8th is my BIRTHDAY...So, the price of Bitcoin skyrocketed and hit all the time high for the year of $31.50 on my BIRTHDAY. That's not a coincidence. It's also not a coincidence that Hector was turned into an FBI Informant on that same day. Satoshi disappeared off the face of the Earth around this time. So, maybe he got scared after all this happened and decided to go underground.  

For all I know, there could be people that want to arrest me for creating the Bitcoin idea. Given the fact that I'm openly admitting to being the guy that invented the Bitcoin idea I would say Satoshi is safe, though. As nobody is kicking in my door. The only Satoshi has to worry about at this point is getting sued by me.

It will be a disaster for BTC price if these Bitcoins will be transferred to exchanges and sold!
Then it will be better for every of us if everything will remain at same places.

If you believe the timestamps on blocks 0 and 19600, it took 193 days to mine 19600 blocks after block 0. Other people, including Martti and Hal, are known to have been mining very early in 2009, so not all of those blocks are Satoshi's.

Block 0: 2009-01-03 18:15:05 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/0)
Block 19600: 2009-07-15 22:24:43 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/19600)

The difficulty was 1 until block 32256 on December 30, 2009. Each block took an average of 16 minutes until that point, though the earliest blocks took much longer.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/32256

Those addresses are being watched like a hawk, because people know if Satoshi touch one single bitcoin in any of these

addresses, then that might trigger a "panic" reaction from hoarders. A million coins will crash the markets and it will also

mean that Satoshi has access to those coins. (Most people accepted that those coins are lost and would never go into

circulation again.) I just want some kind of confirmation that those coins are not going to be a weapon in the future.  ::)

Oh, they're being "watched like a hawk" alright. It's likely Interpol and the FBI doing the watching, though.


As they'd like to place Satoshi under arrest for being partially responsible for the birth of the Dark Net illegal drug market.

How do you people not understand that?  That's the entire reason I invented Bitcoin. So that people could purchase illegal products on the internet and not be caught.

I think they can manipulate prices, because I'm sure they will also take advantage of their own baby.

Satoshi nakamoto have 980,000 bitcoins where you found that information! I know total supply of bitcoin is 21,000,000 million, and 980k is on the wallet of satoshi if it is true that he is a real holder and owner of bitcoin but no one knows what the satoshi's wallet is.by the way if ever true or not its good that someone hold a huge amount of bitcoin

One word: megalomania

Trump is peanuts compared to you

price hit 31$ Because it was tour birthday? Lol

Satoshi is exactly alive and I am sure that this is the largest whale on the market. Believe me, his anonymity was made specially and it seems to me that behind all this there are huge influential people

No major owner makes sense to drown Bitcoin. In this case, he will not be able to earn. Bitmain has the ability to sink the Bitcoin network, but, like other major holders, it is not profitable for him. Any large manipulations can negatively affect the market as a whole. And then it will be bad for everyone - both large and small investors.

Are your referring to this address? 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa (Genesis Block).
Initially it has 50 BTC. Perhaps you will asked where does the 16 BTC come from? Well, you wouldn't believe but people are sending donations to that address, maybe to show their respect to Satoshi. Those 16 BTC is spendable, assuming that Satoshi still have the private key.  :)

as far I know, there are several addresses linked to his ID, also, those are not his claims, claims by others, so, I guess, we can't say for sure.

Why is everyone after Satoshi? He's already worked for us to do the best. I think we should stop looking. If it ever shows up, it'il be out.

Yeah, I'm also curious if Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive, his whereabouts, his real name, his autobiography, and I guess, everybody is as curious as we are both. But based on what was written about Satoshi Nakamoto, it was just a pseudonym. It could be one person or a group, and his/their identity/ies was/were purposely hidden for some unknown reasons. I guess, it would be best for bitcoin if its proponent/s would be revealed, just like with ethereum. This would gain more confidence for the coin. But I'm pretty sure that he/they are still alive and he/they is/are watching and is/are just waiting for its baby bitcoin to finally go mainstream.

this theory has been posted by others too all these years that people keep bringing up the subject. and I still can not accept this as a valid one because it is hard to accept that a developer who created a system doesn't keep a proper backup of his keys!
it is not about the value of those coins though. it is about doing the basics of storing your wallet file.

i don't think it would make any difference with the confidence in bitcoin. people always loved mysteries after all and bitcoin is working really well without us knowing who he is- of course i'm curious to know who Satoshi is...

looking at all his posts he is\was a normal person very good with coding and very very skilled in his major field (cryptography?) and he was always answering all people's questions at the start- then after wikileaks and the CIA and the intrusive and aggressive US government he got scared, annoyed, overwhelmed by his own creation. did he save his own 20000(?) addresses private keys? we don't know. did he lose them? did he die? did he pass his legacy to someone? is he hiding?

i think satoshi was at least living in Britain at the moment of bitcoin creation when he used "The Times" jan 3 2009 title to be recorded in the blockchain. the times is a newspaper not readily available in other countries. of course he might have looked at it online but why? back then nobody knew about bitcoin yet. Also, his english sounded a "bit" british to many. is he of japanese origins? did he work for the NSA or the British secret service, maybe yes, maybe no

the mistery goes on and i would love to solve it

I'm the guy who came up with the idea for Bitcoin. So, yes it is very significant that the price hit the high point for the year on my birthday in 2011.

Without me, Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency in general wouldn't exist.  Satoshi is more than welcome to come out of hiding and challenge me on that whenever he feels like it. I'll be here waiting on his site. If someone like me showed up and started making the claims I'm making I'd be here in a minute to defend myself. As you can see, Satoshi is a fraud and refuses to show himself, as a result.

Is this satoshi's official bitcoin wallet? As of now, I visited the wallet address and saw there are still people giving some bitcoins to this address. This is the first time I encounter the bitcoin creators wallet and sadly the owner is dead and gone. :(

I am very confident that Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive, he is out there and continues to see the development of bitcoin or even without realizing it, he still contributes to the market to this day. I also read a number of analyzes related to the address wallet affiliated with Satoshi Nakamoto, but I only found out if the amount is 980,000 Bitcoin. but for sure, no matter how many bitcoin assets Satoshi Nakamoto has, wealth is not his main goal, I'm sure the global financial system he dreams of is the main thing.

If what the poster on the first page said was true, then it's likely that Brian Armstrong is Satoshi Nakamoto. As Satoshi's 1 million Bitcoins are stored on Brian's exchange, Coinbase. Why else would Satoshi's coins be stored on his exchange?

Satoshi said he was moving on to "work on other projects" in mid-2011. Brian opened Coinbase in July of 2011. Combine those 2 circumstances together and all the evidence points toward Brian being Satoshi Nakamoto. If Satoshi were a Japanese guy it would make more sense that his coins were stored on an Asian Wallet/Exchange. Not an American Exchange.  

I don't buy the "Hal Finney theory." As Hal is already dead and would've had no problem admitting to being Satoshi on his death bed. There's no reason for him to keep quite right before he passed away. He would've openly admitted it to clear things up. It makes much more sense that Brian is Satoshi. He would have no reason to touch the coins when he owns an exchange that has $1 Billion in revenue every year. He makes plenty of money from the Exchange and wouldn't need to touch those 1 million Bitcoins for any reason.

The idea for Bitcoin was presented on Godlike Productions....a conspiracy theory forum. The type of people that log onto those types of forums are typically younger people. Brian was 26 years old and I was 24 years old at the time I presented the idea. Brian is the more likely suspect for being Satoshi Nakamoto. He witnessed me present the idea and then proceeded to steal the idea without telling me. That's what actually took place and that's why he created a fake alias by the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. In order to hide the fact that it was a young American programmer that stole the idea for Bitcoin.

I think you will not see their true address active because they are surely just holding it till the right time came, they are not that idiot to sell it because its their work if the trust dont start from the inventor then there will be no trust will come from others.

What if the said Bitcoins were sold at plus $19k a d then bought back at a price level of $5k or 6k. If it happens like this then we can't say it an idiot approach, in fact it will be a smart approach. For satoshi nakamoto it wouldn't be hard to show a clone address. After all he is the inventor and he would have enjoyed it's benefits more than everyone else.

LOL.

Satoshi is NOT the inventor of Bitcoin. He's the thief who stole the idea and simply programmed Bitcoin. There's a big difference.

Why do you think the guy hasn't done one single interview with the media in 9 years? That should be a pretty good indication that the guy is dishonest. The guy "invents" a multi-Trillion dollar financial market and won't even do one single interview with the media? Clearly, there is something shady going on with this Satoshi Nakamoto guy.

How do you post images from your computer using the image option? I can't see to get an image to paste.

There are many speculations about the Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto turning around. This is one of the biggest question that the people asks; does he really have 1 millions of bitcoin!? Is he still alive? where does he lives? Who can contact with him? If he has bitcoin like millions of them, he should be one of the richest man in the world. That much of bitcoin makes like 7 billions of US Dollars. I believe that would be very hard to live with that kind of money, it is kinda dangerous i guess.. Anyways, i hope one day he comes out and say something to us..

Well that address is associated to the Genesis Block so we can attribute that to Satoshi himself. You're right, people are still sending tips to that address, even the Mt. Gox wallet.  ;)

https://preview.ibb.co/cA49ZU/Screen-Shot-2018-10-15-at-3-46-00-AM.png (https://ibb.co/kkKyTp)

"Satoshi Nakamoto" is still in pain in this world, and they may be Japanese. They may be traveling somewhere in a great place everyone wants to go. They are enjoying their life, and they never manipulate the price because they know they will kill themselves.

I hope he's/it is not dead. I think these are just the institution accumulating bitcoin bits by bits. Who would send bitcoin from an unknown address just to thank? knowing that these addresses are not even moving anymore?

No one actually knows for sure if who is satoshi or what it is his btc addresses because bitcoin was created to be a digital money that would exceed the old traditional fiat currency and it's features are decentralization and anonymity which is very hard for anyone to trace who belongs to whom. So the answer is indefinite maybe those btc still exist maybe they dont. Who knows.

He, Satoshi Nakamoto is a creator, dealer, as well as a bitcoin agent who works behind the bitcoin stage. Although there's no news which's more specific about him, but I believe 100% that Satoshi Nakamoto certainly has bitcoin with a very large amount even the amount may be more than 980.000 bitcoins.

Bitcoin is considered as the biggest invention of the human kind and SATOSHI NAKAMOTO, is considered behind that invention as he is the owner and the sole inventor of bitcoin and no doubt he would hold most number of bitcoin, most probably he could but still no one knows him personally as no one has saw him yet and met him yet but still he use to talk to its investors through social networking sites and surely once in my life I would like to meet him.

Maybe he is a whale! Or it's a group of whales that manipulate the market. It made for a pump that pumps them money constantly.

Satoshi is not stupid. He, She ,or They will be the wealthiest people in the world soon enough.

For someone who made the invention of the century, I think its bitcoins are well kept warm. All this was well studied and their bitcoin must be in an intracable wallet. But I think that will come a day or they will want to spend a little.

I think they should remain active in the market or on the forum even if they just watch.
yes indeed a question like this is an important part of knowing bitcoin identity.

but satoshi hasn't been active in forums for a long time

If Satoshi is alive and free, I think keeping his identity unknown is best so he can live the best of his life with all those Bitcoins. If he's dead or being held captive by some underground organization, then those Bitcoins are useless to him. Thing is, let's just mind our own Bitcoin journey and make the best out of what Satoshi started.

try finding the genesis block, also, you will get more information from google if you just try there.

who pays for hosting and for domain ?

Craig Wright claims to be Satoshi, and a Florida court has ordered him to list all of the addresses with his bitcoin. So if he fails to list these addresses, he will be in contempt of court. So legally, we will find out if he is Satoshi very soon.

For hosting, I think its thymos, for the Domain sirius.

It is real that Satoshi hold bitcoin like 980,000 of bitcoins and that is very big amount of money and they are billionaire on that.
I cannot find his address and I do not what is his real address but here's the things that I know Satoshi Nakamoto is one of the person who have a lot of bitcoins and maybe he is first who have more bitcoins It is only I think.

If the code remains the same that does not mean Satoshi created all those alt coin, it only means that they copied the source code of bitcoin and altered a bit and started their own coin, we have a lot of coins in the top list where a simple tweet and voila a new coin is created in a billion dollar valuation, since it is open source anyone could come up with their own coin.
@OP Some of the initial addresses are public and no one have a concrete idea on how many wallets are owned by the creator himself.

Most people think Satoshi is dead.  I believe if he was alive he already would of sold of more coins, how many could resist billions of dollars?

So the ledger is asswideopen to everybody? but no one can find those bitcoins.... There are numerous articles that there a wallets that ppl monitor that if coins does move but when you ask for those wallet addresses everybody sink their ships. IMHO for me it's the urban legend until someone post them here for everyone to watch them.

Damn I want a widget on my linux desktop to trace that activity on them.

I am really amazed that after those years bitcoins of satoshi nakamoto is still in warm and not changing of numbers. I don't know what can happen to him/her after people find him. 980,000 thousand bitcoin is so serious money.
Based on what I read satoshi had no main wallet. He/she have so many warm wallets that the amount of it is still not changing.

You would have to ask cyber security firms like ciphertrace to be able to trace the exact addresses that were owned by Satoshi and whether or not the money inside is still spendable. I believe it is something like the first ten blocks but I am not sure

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There is a site which says they will reveal who the real satoshi nakamoto truly is. I remember reading about it from a post on the forum.
They said it will be shown on there on the 14th if I remember the date correctly.
I didnt take it seriously so didnt write down the exact date or even the site which will unveil the creators identity. ;)

what website?

Well i don't know the addresses but would love to see if someone had them to check some transactions history and maybe we could find him somehow :D
It's like holy how much bitcoins he has (if he really has them) it will be a big change if the decides to sell off everything.

Was looking for the website I glanced over with the news of revealing of who satoshi could be.
https://news.bitcoin.com/new-website-promises-to-unveil-satoshi-nakamoto-in-10-days/
I highly doubt it will tell who he is because he who holds the keys to these 980,000 coins could only be the true creator of bitcoin. ;)

It would be great for Satoshi to donate 7000 btc for the clause from Binance exchange hacks.
But I doubt he will do it. And I'm afraid I can't afford to offer a 7000 btc worth of help.

Everyone asking same things.

Is Satoshi alive?
How many Bitcoin he has?
Will he reveal his himself?
Can we find him/her/it?
Which is his/her/it Bitcoin adress?
...

Please, let go! Satoshi is not here. And probably will never come. I am curious about him also, but there is nothing I can do!

Someone whose identity is still hidden and you are such figure of how much bitcoin he owns.. That's so interesting of your research. Research more so that you can tell where he is

He was one of the most interesting and most research. But so far we haven't seen any concrete evidence that someone has identify Satoshi Nakamoto. Many claim to be the man, but we all know that they can't even sign a message? So I doubt that anyone can get to the real identity and let the man rest and we should be thankful of his invention.

Apparently he burst into tears in court because he couldn't provide the addresses. What a wuss!! It's time he was locked up to stop him trying to mess up Bitcoin.

how do you know maybe they hold MUCH MORE IN FACT*

and i know what i say :)

one example is after the coin became priced like few usd maybe they was buying and buying and when it hit 10 usd they also continue to buy and when this hit 50 usd and so on...

for sure this team have

more then 4 million coins spread across a lot of paper wallets....i know what i say mate 8)

if me and few other going to bring top quality project and we have premine like 1m coins for bring food to the table and other things....

WE ALSO WILL BUY AFTER THE COIN HIT EXCHANGES AND GROW SLOWLY, do you get it

this team for sure have more then 4 million coins and for sure they are not the people that going to waist all this money, they are building the future and they need for sure tons of money for other projects and stuff , they dont need the money for showing everybody they are the rich one for sure...

i know what i say ::) they also buy the coins heavily after the premine of 1m coins...

reread it .....

how do you know maybe they hold MUCH MORE IN FACT*

and i know what i say Smiley

one example is after the coin became priced like few usd maybe they was buying and buying and when it hit 10 usd they also continue to buy and when this hit 50 usd and so on...

for sure this team have

more then 4 million coins spread across a lot of paper wallets....i know what i say mate Cool

if me and few other going to bring top quality project and we have premine like 1m coins for bring food to the table and other things....

WE ALSO WILL BUY AFTER THE COIN HIT EXCHANGES AND GROW SLOWLY, do you get it

this team for sure have more then 4 million coins and for sure they are not the people that going to waist all this money, they are building the future and they need for sure tons of money for other projects and stuff , they dont need the money for showing everybody they are the rich one for sure...

i know what i say Roll Eyes they also buy the coins heavily after the premine of 1m coins...

and i dont fucking kidding or sound to be troll and anything mate i helped few guys to retire from crypto and explained them where to invest and other cool things did on the net....

after bitcoin hit explode hard suddenly cicada hit main stream and search for people in the same area, and search people with sharp logic which are undepented, even more few countries/agents tried to do the same like cicada but failed so hard....

there is very deep connection here ..

Your saying it isn't possible for Satoshi to lose his usb drives? :) ;D

I'm certain those 1 million bitcoins will be moved someday, whether Satoshi has them or he passed them on to someone else.

If that address, which has 980k btc. Would people know that he has transferred some a small amount of btc, just to buy groceries and stuff? Is that possible? Would people know that btc was transferred or it's a hit or miss to ezactly find the adress that it was transferred from?

The only people who lose their hard drives or USB keys are novice computer people. Its something that would happen maybe to my wife or my dad on the computer.

Most saavy computer people, especially a highly skilled programmer like Satoshi, always keep backups and they probably got some full-proof RAID setup incase one hard drive fails.

He didn't lose the keys. He either destroyed them on purpose or he maybe had some unexpected death and its the reason why he never spent them. Or maybe he is alive and well and just spending the newest mined bitcoins not to attract attention.

Those coins have been rotting there for almost ten years now (ever since 2009). And I don't think that they will ever be spent. IMO, Satoshi Nakamoto is either dead or he has lost the private key for those wallets. So ideally, sites such as coinmarketcap should not consider these coins while calculating the market cap of Bitcoin.

complete bullshit statement based on any research and nothing so danger to listen to people like you and very boring and uneducated...

the team of satoshi know where the money , what the keys,,,,and for what the money...

so simple....with the right analyzer mind...

you far away from the ball park

and they have huge chunk of coins and it didnt done in shady way which mean if me and few other have premine coins and the project start to grow we will buy slowly as price go up ....legit way without scamming people...

do you know that all the communication and other stuff most of them like wiki leaks and other is done by bitcoins,

Let his funds get rotten, but the technology that he innovated has gained importance and is up to date. Let his spend or let him keep hold in the wallet. Already lot many could've tried to breach into the wallet and evade the funds. As stated if these funds weren't added then it'll be a wrong calculation on the total availability to the supply till date. Not only Satoshi I feel there are lot many whales who keep hold of bitcoin in large numbers.

There are a lot of whales out there, but the actual holdings are a secret. The Winklewii are rumored to to hold more than BTC160,000. Roger Ver is holding 300,000 BTC and almost an equal number of BCH. Michael Novogratz also holds huge amounts of BTC/BCH, but we don't have accurate estimates. Both Jihan Wu and Micree Zhan own around $7 billion each in cryptocurrency, but we don't know the BTC/BCH breakdown.

Satoshi is watching this conversation

Some of the best analysis on Satoshis coin estimate (aka dominant miner):

https://bitslog.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/all10-5-e1366485644588.jpg?w=600&h=350
https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/extranonce-small.png


Recommend you read Sergios original post: https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
and subsequent research: https://blog.bitmex.com/satoshis-1-million-bitcoin/

Yes I believE in what you said because no body knows the real satoshi.he/she is a unknown person how will you prove that satoshi is holding 980,000 bitcoin.digital wallet also privately how did you see his wallet.if some saying that they saw 980,000 bitcoin has satoshi how they will proven.is someone only assuming? But what they saying has no proof.bitcoin addresses of satoshi is also unknown that you can never be know of every one.

I don’t care about the address because this has nothing to do with me and also to you OP right?i respect the founder/creator of crypto and I will let him have the privacy he wants not like these people who’s continuously asking about things that concerns them nothing

Does he have the right to do so!?And maybe Satoshi is just Laughing above seeing this kind of conversations lol

Lol, you see any proof about holding  980,000 Btc On the satishi wallet. Satoshi is unknown person. So, no on don't know about him/her

Where did you  get this address???there are so many addresses  are like that.. so they all are wrong addresses.. so just leave it.

Well this is very old news.. where you heard  it? There
are no address exists in reality... well this may  be only rumours..

people so fucking dumb to really believe its one person behind this operation,  this kind of dumb people even dont know to explain what is stble coin or how blockchain work and why it invented???

its why the people run only after money in the end the most dumb ones and without penny in their pocket...

because bitcoin come from team and why they was anonymous its because they anonymous in whatever they do on the web...because most of the thing are involve in huge risk....

because the nature of human mind is to be famous and known and founders and so on...this is why 80% level of depression in the sillicon valley because they want to be known and founders and rich and greedy.....yet ironically anonymous way dont lead to this path...its not about to be known and famous,

and why they anonymous because they anonymous in whatever they do on the web....in other words wiki leaks also run by one person because the info get to journlist from group of people under one silly name hhhhhh yet dumb people they are dumb and even dont try to listen or learn...sad to say..

before bitcoin come to the world do you know their was people which some of them very wekk known on the web and some of them behind wiki leaks operation and they said that peer to peer file sharing will make financial freedom ....they dont predict or prophets they know its will happen because its solve alot of problems...

do you think this people need this all money to buy great cars or whatever ....hell no they need it for other things in order do other things which improve our future very simple....this people also know to communicate over the internet in smart way so outside entity will never know that something is build until it hit the web....

peer to peer have nature to unite parts to act as one ..

before peer to peer file sharing there was centralized tech which mean all the computers download everything from main servers ...and dont depend on each other....the governments pretty fast shut down this main servers.....so before peer to peer file sharing even hit the main stream already people know its gonna to take over the entire web and its impossible to fight this tech because governments need to shut down more then 500 million private computers...what i mean is some already knew that perr to peer money is come...and it will take over the entire web like peer to peer file sharing...

...its not speculative if crypto will grow or not...its going to eat the entire system dude like peer to peer file sharing....

the problem is people 90% is dumb and greedy and their mind is empty ....simple things they cannot understand....

AND YOU THINK BITCOIN COME FROM ONE PERSON???? really ....your logic is not function

people so fucking dumb to really believe its one person behind this operation,  this kind of dumb people even dont know to explain what is stble coin or how blockchain work and why it invented???

its why the people run only after money in the end the most dumb ones and without penny in their pocket...

because bitcoin come from team and why they was anonymous its because they anonymous in whatever they do on the web...because most of the thing are involve in huge risk....

because the nature of human mind is to be famous and known and founders and so on...this is why 80% level of depression in the sillicon valley because they want to be known and founders and rich and greedy.....yet ironically anonymous way dont lead to this path...its not about to be known and famous,

and why they anonymous because they anonymous in whatever they do on the web....in other words wiki leaks also run by one person because the info get to journlist from group of people under one silly name hhhhhh yet dumb people they are dumb and even dont try to listen or learn...sad to say..

before bitcoin come to the world do you know their was people which some of them very wekk known on the web and some of them behind wiki leaks operation and they said that peer to peer file sharing will make financial freedom ....they dont predict or prophets they know its will happen because its solve alot of problems...

do you think this people need this all money to buy great cars or whatever ....hell no they need it for other things in order do other things which improve our future very simple....this people also know to communicate over the internet in smart way so outside entity will never know that something is build until it hit the web....

peer to peer have nature to unite parts to act as one ..

before peer to peer file sharing there was centralized tech which mean all the computers download everything from main servers ...and dont depend on each other....the governments pretty fast shut down this main servers.....so before peer to peer file sharing even hit the main stream already people know its gonna to take over the entire web and its impossible to fight this tech because governments need to shut down more then 500 million private computers...what i mean is some already knew that perr to peer money is come...and it will take over the entire web like peer to peer file sharing...

...its not speculative if crypto will grow or not...its going to eat the entire system dude like peer to peer file sharing....

the problem is people 90% is dumb and greedy and their mind is empty ....simple things they cannot understand....

AND YOU THINK BITCOIN COME FROM ONE PERSON?Huh really ....your logic is not function

No one knows until next year

I need Help finding/ recovering my bitcoins off an old hard drive!!
I am very primitive when it comes to computers do not know coding, Python or any other PC language just a simple Windows operator!

 Any bitcoin/blockchain specific identifying file, cookies, programs, scripts.... names to plug in to the recovery software search that would hint to existence of bitcoin/ wallet or blockchain on the old hard drives?
any Windows software that I can download/ buy to find/ recover them?
What do you recommend to see if it's worth going to the next step of professional recovery?? 

Thank you all.

why you post it here .. post it in the sub ... and get help mate...*

I don't think we can actually classify which one is from Satoshi Nakamoto. We can but not at all, there are so many combinations of addresses in the blockchain all of them are transparent but we can't classify who own them, maybe in the future there will be someone who can specify all of the Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin addresses and for sure it will be great news to all of us because finally, we can able to track if Satoshi is moving his bitcoin into other's wallet, or anything like that.
Also, I don't think Satoshi own exactly 980,000 BTC's for sure in a matter of time it'll lessen.

How do we know if Satoshi has never moved any of the coins if we are unsure of exactly what wallets he controlled?
Are there people out there actively watching all his "supposed" wallets.

For the sake of community, I think it would be fair for any person out there who has done the leg work and compiled a list of address "most likely" to be Satoshi's should share it in a .txt or .csv file so the community can all freely analyse these addresses and place watches on them for any future movement of coins from them.

I think he'll help us to find Satoshi whereabouts. Maybe we'll start from there to get one of the address. OP I think you should ask the people that gave you the total amount of bitcoin that Satoshi holds (980,000) about the addresses cos we don't know

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If Bitcoin was solely Hal's creation, he actually made a post early on in the developer section of the sourceforge Bitcoin board where he talked about the price of bitcoin increasing relative to a potentially growing user base vs supply and demand in terms of the world population etc.,

If I recall correctly it ended with him saying that this was "something to think about" ? or something to that effect. I will dig it out and post it if I can find it perhaps.

:)

EDIT: Actually it's in the 2009 bitcoin-list ... herewith ...

- https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/21312757/

The people who owns bitcoin in the begging already became millionaires.

A lot of people say alot of dumb stuff, but its entertaining at least.

The addresses and bitcoins that belong to Nakamoto or the group associated with Nakamoto are estimated at 980,000 and the estimate is simply based on the theory that he likely mined the majority of coins that where mined at the start that never moved after being mined.  Its highly unlikely he was the miner and thus owner of 100% of the mined coins that never moved after being mined and thus he does not have access to all 980k but its logical that he was the miner of 90%+ of those addresses.  Hell a few of the addresses are mine, not that I will ever move them since I had formatted that hard drive at least a dozen times in the following few years and then donated the entire computer to the local library.

Most people in my situation stress out being depressed endlessly about how rich they would be if they had been smart enough or lucky enough to never format, sell, destroy their hard drive from the early mining days when we mined thousands  if bitcoins easily but the thing is that the logic is totally flawed.  If we made sure to keep the wallet intact then we would of sold the bitcoins a decade ago anyhow.  Hell as soon as they where worth a nickel each they likely would of been sold.

The main programmer behind Bitcoin is deceased. However, there are still members living from the original team.

SATOSHI AKA CSW ON THE MOVE !!!!!!!

Craig wright is a  bully, detestable liar, he is definitely not Satoshi

Honestly, it doesn't really prove or disprove anything. The nonce theory suggests which blocks were mined by a single computer, but Satoshi easily could have been mining on more than one computer.


I don't think that CW is Satoshi, but Satoshi could be a bully and a detestable liar, too.

its 970 pages... to big to post..

Another topic about the creator, Satoshi Nakamoto's whereabouts has been revived.

Truth is, no one actually knows the answer to that question and only the creator himself (if the creator is a male) can answer the exact coins and address that he's holding. Moreover, why is that people are really curious to know his whereabouts or if he's still alive. The man wanted peace, so he hid himself under the radar of modern technology and ever if he wanted to be known, by now, we already knew his true identity. We should just respect his decision because he doesn't want to be found and be thankful that he invented the bitcoin.

actually no one knows how many satoshi have bitcoin, I don't know where did you get this data ?
i personally don't know sathosi's btc address
so I'm waiting for more detailed data from you

It amazes me that some think to this day that Satoshi is 1 person,it's romantic to think this way,heroic,could even be a movie,but not only it's much more probable to be a group but IMO an army of coder/hackers of any certain government,kinda like Tor.

Just another whale. World's first, and biggest HODLER. Relax.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeplL5pWIAAj6wN?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

He's probably looking at this post right now. You can view any address, but you may not know who is behind the address. It could be me or you.

Always make use of a matching topic to the content not the thread created, how does this talks about Binance and taking currency out of centralized exchanges, i agree with you that centralized exchanges aren't the best way to have our bitcoin stored but this title couldn't have been used because the discussion isn't centered on Binance exchange, i don't expect anyone with huge amount of bitcoin in holding to go and have them with centralized exchanges, Satoshi wallet and coins could have been mixed and has always remain private, if we can engage in mixing our transactions addresses for privacy, how much more Satoshi, he has gone beyond you could think being the inventor of bitcoin.

Maybe, I think that everyone, at some point of of reflexion or reasoning, as novice users have through that stage of wondering; who or who were these guys who brought this idea up (Bitcoin).

But if one continues in the collateral or rather main process of understanding Bitcoin above the individual or group fact of focusing on seeking an answer in SN.

One as a user begins to understand that Bitcoin is above that important fact of seeking an answer to classic questions like who is he, is he dead or alive, his bitcoin addresses, etc.

Is it true that the wallets in which Satoshi mined to are known? So that if I would be Satoshi (and had the private key(s)), I could "proof" this, by moving BTC from Wallet A to any Wallet B. Correct? If so, how many of this "Satoshi-Wallets" can (more or less) certainly be allocated to Satoshi and what is their total value? Is there any statistics or website, which provides an overview?

Well, for a start, look back in this thread. Odds your answers are in here. Start with post #2 and post #25.

As for accessing said coins - yes that would be proof the mover is Satoshi.