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Title: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on December 17, 2013, 08:16:15 PM
Doge-Dice.com (https://Doge-Dice.com)

Check out the gambling site I made.  It's a dice game, with the following features:

* low 1% house edge
* near-instant rolls
* off-the blockchain, so no blockchain spam
* high limits - currently you can win 2 million DOGE per roll* - and the limits go up daily
* win up to 1 million times your bet
* pick your own odds of winning
* lively on-site chat room
* provably fair (of course)
* roll "high" or "low"
* keyboard shortcuts for quicker, easier play

The really neat thing about it though is that you can also "be the house", and invest any balance you're not using in the site's bankroll.  Then when other players lose, you win.

For investors, here's the feature list:

* massive 1% house edge ;)
* investing is easy and instant; click the 'invest' tab for details
* take your investment out instantly too
* site operator (that's me) is a long-standing forum member in good standing with the community
* invest as little as 0.001 DOGE; no upper limit
* net profit is split between the house and the investors as follows: house gets 10%, investors get 90%.

So now you can easily have your own share in a dice game without the hassle and expense of using stock exchanges, passthroughs, etc.  All investments received go instantly to the site's bankroll and increase the maximum bet size offered to players.

Doge-Dice.com (https://Doge-Dice.com)

* the maximum profit per roll is currently 0.5% of the bankroll of the site.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: prd on December 17, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
Reserved.

Loving this site!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: marcotheminer on December 17, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
Reserved.

THIS IS AWESOME!! I love it!

Any free doges?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: bitfromit on December 17, 2013, 08:17:46 PM
Fantastic!  ;D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: battlescars on December 17, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
So how is this site different from justdice? is it because it uses doge coins?

If so nice idea , and good luck with this site.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: marcotheminer on December 17, 2013, 08:21:06 PM
Oh and does 2FA work?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Boelens on December 17, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
W-b-why? ._. Guess it's... interesting?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: specgamer on December 17, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
reserve, thank you!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: monbux on December 17, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Looks very nice, will be my favorite doge coin gambling site :P
I am getting an error like some others have too, my dogecoin-QT wallet for windows does not sync.  waiting for 30 minutes, already have the dogecoin.conf file too.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Kyraishi on December 17, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
so the bankroll is actually, 170BTC 442million dogecoin


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: kylie.v on December 17, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Awesome, you've added DOGEcoin


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Boelens on December 17, 2013, 09:51:02 PM
Looks very nice, will be my favorite doge coin gambling site :P
I am getting an error like some others have too, my dogecoin-QT wallet for windows does not sync.  waiting for 30 minutes, already have the dogecoin.conf file too.

Guess too many people trying to download it and not enough full nodes. Would be nice if someone could put up a torrent of the dogechain.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: wayneyoyo on December 17, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
Is there any where you can exchange doge coin?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: gjbronco on December 17, 2013, 10:00:42 PM
Is there any where you can exchange doge coin?

https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=DOGE&base=BTC     40sat ;)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: seandaniel on December 17, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
Surely This will explode.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: wayneyoyo on December 17, 2013, 10:52:57 PM
i am having real fun there ;)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: inspiredinvestor on December 17, 2013, 11:03:03 PM
bravo Dooglus! i love the dog symbol in background.
I love a bit of fun! and just in time for christmas too!

there is some serious gambling going on!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: monbux on December 17, 2013, 11:56:01 PM
Looks very nice, will be my favorite doge coin gambling site :P
I am getting an error like some others have too, my dogecoin-QT wallet for windows does not sync.  waiting for 30 minutes, already have the dogecoin.conf file too.

Guess too many people trying to download it and not enough full nodes. Would be nice if someone could put up a torrent of the dogechain.

Would love that as for I've been running it on and off hoping for a miracle.  Still no connection, added .conf file and all that stuff.  redownloaded 4 times. :/ firewall is all off.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Boelens on December 18, 2013, 12:22:51 AM
Looks very nice, will be my favorite doge coin gambling site :P
I am getting an error like some others have too, my dogecoin-QT wallet for windows does not sync.  waiting for 30 minutes, already have the dogecoin.conf file too.

Guess too many people trying to download it and not enough full nodes. Would be nice if someone could put up a torrent of the dogechain.

Would love that as for I've been running it on and off hoping for a miracle.  Still no connection, added .conf file and all that stuff.  redownloaded 4 times. :/ firewall is all off.

I'll try to see if I can get a download, then run a full node and/or put up a torrent for it.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: monbux on December 18, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
Looks very nice, will be my favorite doge coin gambling site :P
I am getting an error like some others have too, my dogecoin-QT wallet for windows does not sync.  waiting for 30 minutes, already have the dogecoin.conf file too.

Guess too many people trying to download it and not enough full nodes. Would be nice if someone could put up a torrent of the dogechain.

Would love that as for I've been running it on and off hoping for a miracle.  Still no connection, added .conf file and all that stuff.  redownloaded 4 times. :/ firewall is all off.

I'll try to see if I can get a download, then run a full node and/or put up a torrent for it.

Thanks, do you mind PMing me after?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Ruzka on December 18, 2013, 06:55:40 AM
This is so ridiculous and I love it :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Mowcore on December 18, 2013, 09:07:56 AM
shame, I decided not to mine doge so I have none! good luck though!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: inflames666 on December 18, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
sorta takes the gamble out and brings the fun


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: FanEagle on December 19, 2013, 10:50:35 AM
It's booming! :P


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Hfleer on December 19, 2013, 11:27:47 AM
Interesting idea.  DogeCoin sure is popular for it's age.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: wiak2 on December 19, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
Site down?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: gjbronco on December 19, 2013, 04:12:15 PM
Interesting idea.  DogeCoin sure is popular for it's age.

It's grown so fast, it's like it's growing in doge years!  :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Frost000 on December 20, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
Super fun idea! I'm not ready to be an investor on the BTC version, but I threw a couple of DogeCoins to see how it goes... Should be fun!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Stunna on December 20, 2013, 07:00:12 AM
Doog never seizes to amaze me  :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: str4wm4n on December 20, 2013, 10:07:57 AM
this is exactly what I need in my life


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Shadovka on December 20, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
When i see this people playing for milions of doge im just getting so jealous ;/


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Umworpol on December 20, 2013, 11:37:48 AM
Doog is make a success for dogecoin !


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: koshgel on December 21, 2013, 06:21:11 AM
wow much fun using doge for this


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Dabs on December 21, 2013, 04:29:42 PM
doog, I thought you disliked alt coins. Can I get you to make a dice game for a different alt?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Timetwister on December 24, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
I can see this growing a lot just because of the difference between the minimum and maximum bet that you can make, which makes long martingales and similar systems possible.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: ajax3592 on December 24, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
It's great to see Dooglus you chose DOGE after BTC for your dice website.  :)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: wayneyoyo on December 28, 2013, 07:36:11 AM
Good job dooglus!!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: gollor2000 on December 30, 2013, 08:30:22 AM
doge-dice are the best !!!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: petrescuerz on December 31, 2013, 05:26:44 AM
Please see http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2013/12/doge-dice-withdrawals-and-deposits.html (http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2013/12/doge-dice-withdrawals-and-deposits.html) for updates on why deposits and withdrawals are not working at this time, and for updates as we continue to work to get things sorted out.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: scarface on December 31, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
lost 300k doge then made 400k doge on this site its legit

not going to gamble any more though lol


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Franconomasky on December 31, 2013, 10:48:19 AM
Hi, I have just invested about 400,000 Doge coin at Doge-Dice.com, is currently suffereing a 10% net loss. Is there a good chance that I might be able to come out in front? Thank you, my user name there is snakeeyes1234.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Franconomasky on December 31, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Hi, at the Doge Dice.com site there is: maximum profit 4711766, could someone explain to me what it means? Thank you.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on December 31, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
Hi, I have just invested about 400,000 Doge coin at Doge-Dice.com, is currently suffereing a 10% net loss. Is there a good chance that I might be able to come out in front? Thank you, my user name there is snakeeyes1234.

Your investment is used directly as the site's bankroll.  For you to have lost 10%, the whole bankroll will have suffered a similar loss.

There's currently around 900M in the bankroll.  To lose 10% someone would have had to win around 90M, and they haven't.  Not even close.

So I think you must be reading it wrong.

I checked your account.  You invested around 1.2M in total, and divested at a loss of about 1k.  That's a 0.1% loss, not 10%.

Incidentally, be carefully with your username.  Case matters when logging in.  Your username isn't all lower-case; it has capital letters too.

Hi, at the Doge Dice.com site there is: maximum profit 4711766, could someone explain to me what it means? Thank you.

Yes, that is the most that can be won on a single roll of the dice.  It is 0.5% of the site's total bankroll, updated dynamically.

It means people can win 4M per bet, but not 5M.  Here are some recent large bets:

02:07:42 *** golden (32700) [#27672651] bet 2 MDOGE at 50% and lost ***
02:08:19 *** golden (32700) [#27673616] bet 4 MDOGE at 50% and won 3.92 MDOGE ***
02:12:54 *** golden (32700) [#27679968] bet 4 MDOGE at 50% and won 3.92 MDOGE ***

Those last 2 probably explain why your investment was down - the biggest player won a couple of big bets and then stopped playing.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Franconomasky on January 01, 2014, 07:36:51 AM
Thank you user dooglus for your kind replay. JUst let you know I enjoy your casino very much, looking forward to play a bit more in your great casino.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: cof on January 02, 2014, 05:18:59 AM
cloudflare can be annoing


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: wayneyoyo on January 02, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
Time for people know about doge dice :)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: seuntjie on January 10, 2014, 10:44:56 AM
Hi everyone

I have written my own bot for just-dice. At the moment it uses a (very) flexible martingale betting system, with automatic withdrawal and invest. It also shows a lot of statistics, has sound and email alerts and it does NOT require a browser. It is dependent on the sites delays so it cannot cause the bet spamming that shut down the site recently.


For more info on the bot, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425

Download Link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/seuntjiejddb/
Source available at: https://sourceforge.net/p/seuntjiejddb/code/ci/master/tree/

http://seuntjie.com/dicebot/Update/dicebot-2.4.5.exe - update only, replace existing Dicebot2.x.x.exe with this one
http://seuntjie.com/DiceBot/Complete/DiceBot-2.4.5.zip - Full release

See Beginners guide! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391870

The bot requires .net 4

http://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/seuntjiejddb/screenshots/BotScreen4.PNG


I plan on implementing the Fibonacci system, as well as a few others in the weeks to come. I will post updates here.

I would appreciate some constructive input and ideas for the bot, as well as bug reports and donations :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on January 14, 2014, 09:15:59 PM
Hi everyone

I have written my own bot for just-dice.

I have a few questions:

Does it work for Doge-Dice too?

Is that a different download?

Or how do you tell it which site to play on?

Does it require Windows to work?

Do you provide build instructions for people who don't want to download random .exe files?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Dabs on January 15, 2014, 06:24:43 AM
doog, I thought you disliked alt coins. Can I get you to make a dice game for a different alt?

Hey dooglus, there you are! Sorry, I've been lost in a bunch of other alt-coins. I was wondering if you'd help me make a dice site for just one particular one. (Or you make it, I'll just be an investor or something.)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: seuntjie on January 16, 2014, 09:03:41 AM
Hi everyone

I have written my own bot for just-dice.

I have a few questions:

Does it work for Doge-Dice too?

Is that a different download?

Or how do you tell it which site to play on?

Does it require Windows to work?

Do you provide build instructions for people who don't want to download random .exe files?

Most of that is explained in the thread linked in my post, but in short:

yes it works for doge-dice

same download

at the secret url box at the top, just type doge-dice.com or your secret doge-dice url and press go. from there it will load doge-dice on start

It requires the .net framework, so it might work on wine with the mono framework

no-one has asked for build instructions, but simply loading the solution into visual studio and clicking build will do the trick


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: galbros on January 20, 2014, 12:44:23 AM
Hi Doog!

Would you please put the link to the blog with the investment amounts in the doge-dice FAQ?  Thanks!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: petrescuerz on February 02, 2014, 06:21:18 PM
Doge-Dice is down for servicing. Please check http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2014/02/doge-dice-is-down.html for more info!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: utens on February 08, 2014, 11:45:38 PM
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc ) 

Anyone?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on February 25, 2014, 12:26:00 AM
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc ) 

Anyone?

Yes the site is working 100% :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on February 27, 2014, 05:30:03 AM
Hi Doog!

Would you please put the link to the blog with the investment amounts in the doge-dice FAQ?  Thanks!

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

It's already there:

Quote
As an investor, you can check this is not the case by looking at the list of investor balances (http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/search/label/bankroll) which is updated each Sunday.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 03, 2014, 01:36:40 AM
this game is a fucking scam!!! you owe me doog!!!(check your email!) >>>


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Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 03, 2014, 01:37:55 AM
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc ) 

Anyone?

Yes the site is working 100% :D


yes you owe me bitcoins figured i'd see you here scamming again! =(


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 03, 2014, 01:39:33 AM
Hi everyone

I have written my own bot for just-dice.

I have a few questions:

Does it work for Doge-Dice too?

Is that a different download?

Or how do you tell it which site to play on?

Does it require Windows to work?

Do you provide build instructions for people who don't want to download random .exe files?


HOW DO I GET MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMED ME!!!!=(


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 03, 2014, 02:28:10 AM
this game is a fucking scam!!! you owe me doog!!!(check your email!) >>>


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>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
+6164.81279570
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:43
 betid:
287965004
 lucky:
80.1868
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
+6164.81279570
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:41
 betid:
287964926
 lucky:
04.1260
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:39
 betid:
287964861
 lucky:
04.6071
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:32
 betid:
287964628
 lucky:
06.3926
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
11111.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-11111.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:27
 betid:
287964553
 lucky:
06.1111
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1111.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1111.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:22
 betid:
287964350
 lucky:
02.5132
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:22
 betid:
287964321
 lucky:
02.9696
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:21
 betid:
287964302
 lucky:
17.1074
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000

I think from the style (not making your point in a way I can act on, pasting far too much data in an un-digestible format) that you're probably the "jus rob" guy who was spamming the ticket system until I blocked his email address.

If so, I won't have received your email.

Do you have a point to make?  If it's "I picked hi/lo wrongly too much" then I'm sorry, but that's just bad luck.  The site is provably fair as I continue to point out.  There's no way I can affect your rolls to make you lose.

If it's something else, please state it more clearly.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 03, 2014, 02:29:34 AM
HOW DO I GET MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMED ME!!!!=(

YOU DON'T I DIDN'T!!!!

Edit: out of curiosity I reformatted the bets into a format I could read:

Quote
time      betid      lucky    target    stake           profit
----     -----        -----    ------   -----      ------
17:23:52  287965370  01.3481  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:50  287965299  00.7005  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:48  287965203  09.3557  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:46  287965141  87.8834  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:44  287965063  25.3691  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:43  287965004  80.1868  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:41  287964926  04.1260  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:39  287964861  04.6071  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:32  287964628  06.3926  >22.4999  11111.00000000  -11111.00000000
17:23:27  287964553  06.1111  >22.4999  1111.00000000   -1111.00000000
17:23:22  287964350  02.5132  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000
17:23:22  287964321  02.9696  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000
17:23:21  287964302  17.1074  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000

It does look like some pretty bad luck.  Would have been better to bet 'lo' on those rolls...

Edit2:

I just checked the server logs to see whether the bets you reported really happened:

Quote
2014-03-03 01:23:04 bet #287963926: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:280447 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:05 bet #287963968: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:989377 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964016: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:441042 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964054: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:837305 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:08 bet #287964105: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:411128 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:09 bet #287964136: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:290225 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:13 bet #287964166: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:492052 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964182: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:24417 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964209: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:682994 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:15 bet #287964259: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:768741 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:20 bet #287964302: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:171074 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:21 bet #287964321: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:29696 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:22 bet #287964350: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:25132 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:26 bet #287964553: 1111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:61111 profit:-1111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:32 bet #287964628: 11111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:63926 profit:-11111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:38 bet #287964861: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:46071 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:40 bet #287964926: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:41260 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:42 bet #287965004: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:801868 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:44 bet #287965063: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:253691 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:46 bet #287965141: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:878834 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:47 bet #287965203: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:93557 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:50 bet #287965299: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:7005 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:51 bet #287965370: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:13481 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:27:12 bet #287971572: 18186.75783446 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:532879 profit:5045.35853704
2014-03-03 01:47:59 chat: <DOGETHER> SCAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It looks like you were betting 1 DOGE over and over until you hit a losing streak, and then increased your bet size.  You wasted all the winning bets by only playing for 1 DOGE, then increased your stake for the losing streak.  And then somehow say that's our fault, not yours.

Edit 3: I ran a query to find out how many times people have won and lost at 77.5% on doge-dice since it started.

It turns out they've won 876 times and lost 252 times.

>>> 876 * 100.0 / (252 + 876)
77.65957446808511

That's a win rate of 77.66%, a little higher than expected.

Would you like me to track down the people who have won more than expected and tell them that they owe you some dogecoins?

Edit 4: and for the record, you won 58 times and lost 28 times at 77.5% on that account.

>>> 58 * 100.0 / (28 + 58)
67.44186046511628

That's a win rate of 67.44%, quite a bit lower than expected, but that's not unusual on such a small sample size.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: bitfromit on March 04, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Quote
...deflected annoying noise from "EEPICYOO"...

Such detail. Well done Doog.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: galbros on March 04, 2014, 01:48:15 PM
Glad to see this thread got bumped, I love doge-dice.  Doog did a great service to the altcoin community when he made it - Thanks!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 06, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
this game is a fucking scam!!! you owe me doog!!!(check your email!) >>>


DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:52
 betid:
287965370
 lucky:
01.3481
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:50
 betid:
287965299
 lucky:
00.7005
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:48
 betid:
287965203
 lucky:
09.3557
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:46
 betid:
287965141
 lucky:
87.8834
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
+6164.81279570
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:44
 betid:
287965063
 lucky:
25.3691
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
+6164.81279570
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:43
 betid:
287965004
 lucky:
80.1868
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
+6164.81279570
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:41
 betid:
287964926
 lucky:
04.1260
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:39
 betid:
287964861
 lucky:
04.6071
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
22222.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-22222.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:32
 betid:
287964628
 lucky:
06.3926
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
11111.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-11111.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:27
 betid:
287964553
 lucky:
06.1111
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1111.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1111.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:22
 betid:
287964350
 lucky:
02.5132
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:22
 betid:
287964321
 lucky:
02.9696
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000
 user:
DOGETHER (156645)
 date:
2014-03-02 17:23:21
 betid:
287964302
 lucky:
17.1074
 target:
>22.4999
 bet:
1.00000000
 payout:
1.27741935x
 profit:
-1.00000000

I think from the style (not making your point in a way I can act on, pasting far too much data in an un-digestible format) that you're probably the "jus rob" guy who was spamming the ticket system until I blocked his email address.

If so, I won't have received your email.

Do you have a point to make?  If it's "I picked hi/lo wrongly too much" then I'm sorry, but that's just bad luck.  The site is provably fair as I continue to point out.  There's no way I can affect your rolls to make you lose.

If it's something else, please state it more clearly.





did you even bother to look at these rolls in comparison to the % stated? lol

>>my bullshit detector is flaring on your site!


* Getting peeps to "invest" in your scam is over the top and will prolly get you the most problems.

>>> Money laundering is more likely what get you tho'!

jmho


=)

i want my coins back you scammer!!!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 06, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
HOW DO I GET MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMED ME!!!!=(

YOU DON'T I DIDN'T!!!!

Edit: out of curiosity I reformatted the bets into a format I could read:

Quote
time      betid      lucky    target    stake           profit
----     -----        -----    ------   -----      ------
17:23:52  287965370  01.3481  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:50  287965299  00.7005  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:48  287965203  09.3557  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:46  287965141  87.8834  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:44  287965063  25.3691  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:43  287965004  80.1868  >22.4999  22222.00000000  +6164.81279570
17:23:41  287964926  04.1260  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:39  287964861  04.6071  >22.4999  22222.00000000  -22222.00000000
17:23:32  287964628  06.3926  >22.4999  11111.00000000  -11111.00000000
17:23:27  287964553  06.1111  >22.4999  1111.00000000   -1111.00000000
17:23:22  287964350  02.5132  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000
17:23:22  287964321  02.9696  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000
17:23:21  287964302  17.1074  >22.4999  1.00000000      -1.00000000

It does look like some pretty bad luck.  Would have been better to bet 'lo' on those rolls...

Edit2:

I just checked the server logs to see whether the bets you reported really happened:

Quote
2014-03-03 01:23:04 bet #287963926: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:280447 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:05 bet #287963968: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:989377 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964016: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:441042 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:06 bet #287964054: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:837305 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:08 bet #287964105: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:411128 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:09 bet #287964136: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:290225 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:13 bet #287964166: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:492052 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964182: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:24417 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:14 bet #287964209: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:682994 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:15 bet #287964259: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:768741 profit:0.27741935
2014-03-03 01:23:20 bet #287964302: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:171074 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:21 bet #287964321: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:29696 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:22 bet #287964350: 1 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:25132 profit:-1.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:26 bet #287964553: 1111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:61111 profit:-1111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:32 bet #287964628: 11111 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:63926 profit:-11111.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:38 bet #287964861: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:46071 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:40 bet #287964926: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:41260 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:42 bet #287965004: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:801868 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:44 bet #287965063: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:253691 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:46 bet #287965141: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:878834 profit:6164.81279570
2014-03-03 01:23:47 bet #287965203: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:93557 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:50 bet #287965299: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:7005 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:23:51 bet #287965370: 22222 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:13481 profit:-22222.00000000
2014-03-03 01:27:12 bet #287971572: 18186.75783446 DOGE @ 77.5% hi: lucky:532879 profit:5045.35853704
2014-03-03 01:47:59 chat: <DOGETHER> SCAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It looks like you were betting 1 DOGE over and over until you hit a losing streak, and then increased your bet size.  You wasted all the winning bets by only playing for 1 DOGE, then increased your stake for the losing streak.  And then somehow say that's our fault, not yours.

Edit 3: I ran a query to find out how many times people have won and lost at 77.5% on doge-dice since it started.

It turns out they've won 876 times and lost 252 times.

>>> 876 * 100.0 / (252 + 876)
77.65957446808511

That's a win rate of 77.66%, a little higher than expected.

Would you like me to track down the people who have won more than expected and tell them that they owe you some dogecoins?

Edit 4: and for the record, you won 58 times and lost 28 times at 77.5% on that account.

>>> 58 * 100.0 / (28 + 58)
67.44186046511628

That's a win rate of 67.44%, quite a bit lower than expected, but that's not unusual on such a small sample size.



i'm just stupid to keep playing after all, already figured your game out it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio...

=SCAM!!!!


*i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 07, 2014, 05:03:51 AM
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio

How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab.  All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.

Nice words though.  I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio".  That nearly sounded like it meant something!

i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol

Congratulations!  Except there's no time element in the roll generation.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: ondratra on March 07, 2014, 06:28:36 AM
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio

How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab.  All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.

Nice words though.  I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio".  That nearly sounded like it meant something!

i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol

Congratulations!  Except there's no time element in the roll generation.

Epic :D i like people arguing about probability they don't understand even a bit just after huge loss :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 07, 2014, 05:05:29 PM
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio

How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab.  All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.

Nice words though.  I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio".  That nearly sounded like it meant something!

i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol

Congratulations!  Except there's no time element in the roll generation.


^you fucking liar it says it right on your site!

>>yes I have found that it demonstrates how stated % is not exclusive to all bet placed but rather BET SIZE ,so perhaps in in your mind it's somehow justified? How this is achieved by monitoring or automation or what combination of these i'm not entirely clear. You do have someone monitoring the site at all times ...right?... GOTCHA!!! ;-) *just flip the "lose" switch? = odds will change


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 07, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio

How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab.  All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.

Nice words though.  I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio".  That nearly sounded like it meant something!

i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol

Congratulations!  Except there's no time element in the roll generation.

Epic :D i like people arguing about probability they don't understand even a bit just after huge loss :D


probability of seeing "out of normal" pattern of losses increase when suddenly your bet increases! = THIS IS A FACT!!! :-)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 07, 2014, 05:24:48 PM
Is the site working for u guys? It starts loading then it stops ( can't see the numbers, invested ecc ) 

Anyone?

Yes the site is working 100% :D



you would know~see you are a fucking liar!!You are still developing the doge-road drug site?

Sounds like a court case in your future?

;-)

LMFAO!!!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 07, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
there's no time element in the roll generation.

^you fucking liar it says it right on your site!

Are you referring to this?

https://i.imgur.com/zGnidYV.png

I expect so.  Can you understand the difference between HOW the rolls are generated and WHEN they are displayed?  The delays described above simply DELAY the roll, they don't AFFECT it.  Also, they only affect tiny bets.  People typically don't care about such small bets.  The bets you pasted were all above the threshold for delays.

>>yes I have found that it demonstrates how stated % is not exclusive to all bet placed but rather BET SIZE ,so perhaps in in your mind it's somehow justified? How this is achieved by monitoring or automation or what combination of these i'm not entirely clear. You do have someone monitoring the site at all times ...right?... GOTCHA!!! ;-) *just flip the "lose" switch? = odds will change

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.  Do you have a friend who can help you with your posts?

If you're saying that big bets lose more often than small bets, that's just wrong.  The rolled numbers are predetermined as soon as you pick your client seed, before you pick your chance or stake.  No amount of monitoring or automation is able to change the predetermined sequence of rolls.

I don't have anyone monitoring the site most of the time.  I leave myself logged in most of the time, but don't watch it.  The server keeps logs of all bets though, so you can call that monitoring if you like.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Willisius on March 07, 2014, 06:22:39 PM
Humans are extremely skilled at finding patterns. So much that we find them where they don't exist.

I found this (https://www.problemgambling.ca/en/resourcesforprofessionals/pages/whyweseepatternsinsequencesofrandomevents.aspx) very interesting, I'd recommend it for anyone who'd like to read about this.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: CryptoKilla on March 07, 2014, 07:08:05 PM
Is this site still legit?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on March 07, 2014, 10:47:10 PM
Is this site still legit?

Yep!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: VolanicEruptor on March 07, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
If the house has such an advantage, why don't you bet on them instead of yourself.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on March 07, 2014, 11:27:42 PM
If the house has such an advantage, why don't you bet on them instead of yourself.

1% house edge isn't much of a advantage (as seen with players from www.Just-dice.com.)  You can invest into Doge-dice and be the house if you want, but mind you it isn't "for sure" coins. People do win.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: VolanicEruptor on March 07, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
According to this guy though, the house has much more than a 1% advantage.  That's the topic right now isn't it..?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2014, 12:28:10 AM
I found this (https://www.problemgambling.ca/en/resourcesforprofessionals/pages/whyweseepatternsinsequencesofrandomevents.aspx) very interesting, I'd recommend it for anyone who'd like to read about this.

Thanks for the link.  I hadn't see it before, and you're right, it is interesting.

I hadn't realised this:

Quote
Another reason for errors in our understanding of randomness may be confusion between the way the word random is used in everyday speech and the way it is used in statistics and mathematics. According to the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, the most common meaning of the adjective random is “lacking a definite plan, purpose, or pattern.”  It also lists “haphazard” as a synonym

And so "H H H H H H" is thought to be "less random" than "H H T H T T", even though both have the same chance of happening at random.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: VolanicEruptor on March 08, 2014, 01:13:34 AM
http://www.random.org/analysis/dilbert.jpg


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 08, 2014, 03:37:24 AM
there's no time element in the roll generation.

^you fucking liar it says it right on your site!

Are you referring to this?

https://i.imgur.com/zGnidYV.png

I expect so.  Can you understand the difference between HOW the rolls are generated and WHEN they are displayed?  The delays described above simply DELAY the roll, they don't AFFECT it.  Also, they only affect tiny bets.  People typically don't care about such small bets.  The bets you pasted were all above the threshold for delays.

>>yes I have found that it demonstrates how stated % is not exclusive to all bet placed but rather BET SIZE ,so perhaps in in your mind it's somehow justified? How this is achieved by monitoring or automation or what combination of these i'm not entirely clear. You do have someone monitoring the site at all times ...right?... GOTCHA!!! ;-) *just flip the "lose" switch? = odds will change

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.  Do you have a friend who can help you with your posts?

If you're saying that big bets lose more often than small bets, that's just wrong.  The rolled numbers are predetermined as soon as you pick your client seed, before you pick your chance or stake.  No amount of monitoring or automation is able to change the predetermined sequence of rolls.

I don't have anyone monitoring the site most of the time.  I leave myself logged in most of the time, but don't watch it.  The server keeps logs of all bets though, so you can call that monitoring if you like.


after playing DOGE-DICE for +10hours straight that day i got the feeling of what to expect as using consistant size bets will produce smaller red streaks than when you try to "beat the game" and go from small bets to "whale" bets. I've gone beyond trying to prove to myself this happens~ to HOW it happens. So by recognizing your time delay feature i deduct this is how the % ratio equation works. So as long as you know what the fields are programmed you could better predict the likely outcome of rolls. I've seen you do some tricky stuff picking "good seeds" and whatnot. So you are saying it's purely hard programmed to fuck you?

...regardless when you get 10 out of 13 loss to win that isn't %77!!!!(DO THE MATH!!!)





Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: CryptoKilla on March 08, 2014, 04:00:50 AM
This site is amazing thank you Doog!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 08, 2014, 04:53:52 AM
it works off "fields" so if you try to beat the streak it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio

How it works is documented on the 'Fair?' tab.  All rolls are predetermined based on a pair of seeds, one of which the server provides and one of which the user provides.

Nice words though.  I particularly liked the bit where you said "it equates the higher bracket into the % ratio".  That nearly sounded like it meant something!

i figured it out by reading about the time adjustments for different size bets..lol

Congratulations!  Except there's no time element in the roll generation.


monitoring /observing changes the outcome ..you have heard of quantum dynamics right?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on March 08, 2014, 04:56:28 AM
According to this guy though, the house has much more than a 1% advantage.  That's the topic right now isn't it..?


Answers

What is this place?

Doge-Dice.com is a Dogecoin casino where you can play a fast paced dice game with a low 1% house edge and gamble with your DOGE. Pick your chance to win and how much to bet, then select "hi or lo" to roll the dice and get an instant result, win or lose. There is also a live chat where you can interact with other players on the site. They will probably try to convince you to bet more. :)

Alternatively you can invest in the site's bankroll, and share in the site's profits (or losses), while helping us offer bigger maximum bets to the players. This is why the players in the chat are trying to convince you to bet more - they win when you lose...


Reference: https://doge-dice.com/#q1
Pretty sure poor EEPICYO got dropped on his head at a young age (or thrown.)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: seuntjie on March 08, 2014, 08:28:29 AM
an early version of Just-Dice Custom API (works for doge dice as well) has been uploaded to GitHub. This api will eventually allow you to do everything you can do on the site.

Most of it is already there, except the Google Auth stuff. I have not tested anything, like login with GA either.

https://github.com/seuntie900/jdcapi

The api will be ported to mono so you can use it on mac and linux as well


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2014, 09:14:26 AM
monitoring /observing changes the outcome ..you have heard of quantum dynamics right?

If you monitor someone adding 2 and 2, does it change the outcome?

In the same way, the dice rolls are entirely deterministic and not subject to quantum effects.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2014, 09:22:06 AM
So you are saying it's purely hard programmed to fuck you?

After all my attempts to explain how the site works, this is the best you can do?

No, I am not saying that it is hard programmed to fuck you.

It doesn't know about our care about you. It's a sequence of pseudorandom numbers you're paying against. The numbers have no desire to fuck or be fucked, they are simply the result of running a particular published algorithm over and over.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: VolanicEruptor on March 08, 2014, 03:02:43 PM
According to this guy though, the house has much more than a 1% advantage.  That's the topic right now isn't it..?


Answers

What is this place?

Doge-Dice.com is a Dogecoin casino where you can play a fast paced dice game with a low 1% house edge and gamble with your DOGE. Pick your chance to win and how much to bet, then select "hi or lo" to roll the dice and get an instant result, win or lose. There is also a live chat where you can interact with other players on the site. They will probably try to convince you to bet more. :)

Alternatively you can invest in the site's bankroll, and share in the site's profits (or losses), while helping us offer bigger maximum bets to the players. This is why the players in the chat are trying to convince you to bet more - they win when you lose...


Reference: https://doge-dice.com/#q1
Pretty sure poor EEPICYO got dropped on his head at a young age (or thrown.)

If the house is manipulating the odds of individual bets, that makes it a lot more than 1%.  I think you need to read the last couple pages before you post.  I was responding to the idiot who was accusing dooglus of scamming, and now you're flailing your arms around over nothing.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Sheridan on March 08, 2014, 03:26:09 PM
hey
i like it


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 08, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: CryptoKilla on March 08, 2014, 10:43:10 PM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)

Lmao

So what is the maximum I can invest?


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: seuntjie on March 08, 2014, 10:55:10 PM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)

Lmao

So what is the maximum I can invest?

Your life savings and whatever you can get in a loan


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 09, 2014, 12:12:48 AM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)

Lmao

So what is the maximum I can invest?

There's no maximum.  The biggest investment at the moment is 231,043,429 DOGE.  Recently investments have been doing very well, averaging about 0.2% growth per day - but of course sometimes players win too, and so investors lose.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on March 09, 2014, 02:03:16 AM
If the house is manipulating the odds of individual bets, that makes it a lot more than 1%.  I think you need to read the last couple pages before you post.  I was responding to the idiot who was accusing dooglus of scamming, and now you're flailing your arms around over nothing.

I see what you are saying and I assure you my arms aren't flailing! :D I thought their was actual confusion.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 09, 2014, 06:11:17 AM
The biggest investment at the moment is 231,043,429 DOGE.

And now, without him doing anything, it's 231,355,233 DOGE.  Up roughly 0.1% in a few hours.

It's just a shame the price of DOGE went down by more than 0.1% in the same period, but you can't have everything!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 01:55:45 AM
According to this guy though, the house has much more than a 1% advantage.  That's the topic right now isn't it..?


Answers

What is this place?

Doge-Dice.com is a Dogecoin casino where you can play a fast paced dice game with a low 1% house edge and gamble with your DOGE. Pick your chance to win and how much to bet, then select "hi or lo" to roll the dice and get an instant result, win or lose. There is also a live chat where you can interact with other players on the site. They will probably try to convince you to bet more. :)

Alternatively you can invest in the site's bankroll, and share in the site's profits (or losses), while helping us offer bigger maximum bets to the players. This is why the players in the chat are trying to convince you to bet more - they win when you lose...


Reference: https://doge-dice.com/#q1

Pretty sure poor HAIGHT STREET got dropped acid on his head at a young age (or thrown.)


keep yappin' fuck head ~ when you get to prison be sure to tell them how you got there!

*must read* ====> http://trilema.com/2014/why-dogecoin-is-a-scam-why-the-people-pushing-it-are-assholes-why-business-insider-is-a-contemptible-piece-of-shit-why-anyone-who-ever-worked-for-it-will-be-dancing-in-the-street-for-nickels-and-wh/



Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 01:59:36 AM
monitoring /observing changes the outcome ..you have heard of quantum dynamics right?

If you monitor someone adding 2 and 2, does it change the outcome?

In the same way, the dice rolls are entirely deterministic and not subject to quantum effects.

it depends what "2" represents!

....ok now you are REALLY talking stupid ! I thought you were smarter than that!!! ?=(


I WANT MY $$$ YOU STOLE IN BACK IN BITCOIN(rounded up) NOT DOGE!!!!


*must read*>>>>

http://trilema.com/2014/why-dogecoin-is-a-scam-why-the-people-pushing-it-are-assholes-why-business-insider-is-a-contemptible-piece-of-shit-why-anyone-who-ever-worked-for-it-will-be-dancing-in-the-street-for-nickels-and-wh/


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 02:06:08 AM
So you are saying it's purely hard programmed to fuck you?

After all my attempts to explain how the site works, this is the best you can do?

No, I am not saying that it is hard programmed to fuck you.

It doesn't know about our care about you. It's a sequence of pseudorandom numbers you're paying against. The numbers have no desire to fuck or be fucked, they are simply the result of running a particular published algorithm over and over.



pseudorandom = FAKE random


*rolls eyes*


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 02:09:17 AM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)

Lmao

So what is the maximum I can invest?

There's no maximum.  The biggest investment at the moment is 231,043,429 DOGE.  Recently investments have been doing very well, averaging about 0.2% growth per day - but of course sometimes players win too, and so investors lose.



"investments" of what? ~ I'm getting the impression you are shooting for Federal time...right? :-) weeeee


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: SUNcoinDEVs on March 12, 2014, 02:13:30 AM
we would love to have such game for SUN


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 06:18:00 AM
monitoring /observing changes the outcome ..you have heard of quantum dynamics right?

If you monitor someone adding 2 and 2, does it change the outcome?

In the same way, the dice rolls are entirely deterministic and not subject to quantum effects.


*this one is for you sockgenius, maybe you need someone to help explain it to you?(prepare to be mindfucked) ====>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytGo85BZUww


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 12, 2014, 07:42:35 AM
[nothing of any value]

[nothing of any value]

[nothing of any value]

[nothing of any value]

[nothing of any value]

Troll harder.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: rn4j0r on March 12, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
hey
i like it

I'd count that as a "substantial post" for sure!  ;)

Lmao

So what is the maximum I can invest?

There's no maximum.  The biggest investment at the moment is 231,043,429 DOGE.  Recently investments have been doing very well, averaging about 0.2% growth per day - but of course sometimes players win too, and so investors lose.


"investments" of what? ~ I'm getting the impression you are shooting for Federal time...right? :-) weeeee

You are stupid as fuck lol. go troll another thread instead of this mans business.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 12, 2014, 06:48:49 PM



SEE YOU ARE A FUCKING SCAMMER!!!! AND YOU ARE HEADING TO PRISON!!!!=) WEEEEEE


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on March 12, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Lol

Generally, DOGE threads have to pay for bumps and "luckily" EEPICTARD provides them for free :D


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: EEPICYOO on March 13, 2014, 03:33:34 AM
Lol

Generally, DOGE threads have to pay for bumps and "luckily" EEPICTARD provides them for free :D










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Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: SLAPMODE on March 14, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
So you are saying it's purely hard programmed to fuck you?

After all my attempts to explain how the site works, this is the best you can do?

No, I am not saying that it is hard programmed to fuck you.

It doesn't know about our care about you. It's a sequence of pseudorandom numbers you're paying against. The numbers have no desire to fuck or be fucked, they are simply the result of running a particular published algorithm over and over.

it's either one or the other (~or both more likely probability) ...i thought it might have been my "bad luck" but no it's not it detects & calculates SIZE OF BETS to fuck you off...throw in a mod or two (BAYAREACOINS) and no worries for your ponzi "investors" lolololllll =) ~i got you figured out numbskull!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: SLAPMODE on March 14, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
Lol

Generally, DOGE threads have to pay for bumps and "luckily" EEPICTARD provides them for free :D




SHIT MAN = YOU GOT ME FUCKED UP CONFUSED WITH SOMEONE ELSE! ~ I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD TEAM OF LAWYERS LOLOLLLL =) I WILL KICK YOUR FUCKING GAY ASS UP AND DOWN THE STREET HAHA


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: SLAPMODE on March 14, 2014, 09:09:13 PM
(((pm:))) Give me your address or do you want me to find it on my own?


^WHAT NOW YOU COMING TO KILL ME? LOL!!! =) BWAAAHAHAHAA


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: ysbysb2000 on March 26, 2014, 05:19:37 AM
So how is this site different from justdice? is it because it uses doge coins?

If so nice idea , and good luck with this site.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: dooglus on March 26, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
So how is this site different from justdice? is it because it uses doge coins?

If so nice idea , and good luck with this site.

It's pretty much just a direct clone of just-dice.com, yes.

Thanks. :)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: petrescuerz on April 08, 2014, 04:20:56 AM
Both sites are currently down for maintenance. Feel free to check out the blog and work on your recipe or ask the Princess a question while you wait. As always, thank you for your patience.

http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/
 (http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/)
Deb

Edit: Back up


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: BayAreaCoins on April 08, 2014, 04:23:30 AM
Both sites are currently down for maintenance. Feel free to check out the blog and work on your recipe or ask the Princess a question while you wait. As always, thank you for your patience.

http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/
 (http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/)
Deb

phew! I was worried for you guys for a second!


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: petrescuerz on April 08, 2014, 04:32:32 AM
Bay you are so sweet! :) Email me if you like.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Dabs on April 08, 2014, 05:13:21 AM
So how is this site different from justdice? is it because it uses doge coins?

If so nice idea , and good luck with this site.

It's pretty much just a direct clone of just-dice.com, yes.

Thanks. :)

Can I get a clone for another alt? :)


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: gizzig on June 23, 2014, 07:18:42 PM

The web site say: "Betting is disabled. Please withdraw your balance."

That will be happening?

thanks


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: Willisius on June 23, 2014, 07:22:01 PM

The web site say: "Betting is disabled. Please withdraw your balance."

That will be happening?

thanks

http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html

Canada is putting new regulations in place.


Title: Re: Doge-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++
Post by: gizzig on June 26, 2014, 04:55:03 PM

Any news?
will move the site to another server?