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I have a worthy cause of fostering Pitbulls and Pitbull mixes and I can't even bring myself to ask for donations.   If I ever do I know where to go first.

Not sure we need a specific coin, but it sounds like I should get serious.  I do have a name  AC PitStop, that's a start.

You should also add Bitland, Neon and Shares to this thread.

Hopefully the next batch of people will think twice before investing in the next scams

haha now how did I miss them! Thank you very much for poiniting them out :) currently Visacoin is the biggest heist! :D

I added the amounts scammed also

I'd be glad with helping out with the developments. :)

IF people are so stupid to send 135.63009876 to an unknown person who have create a topic for "an incredible revolutionary currency" where is the problem?
The problem is inside people's head. Too stupid to be active part of CCWorld. Too Greedy to understand differences between scam and good project.

"Sell you coin, go out of here, return to Fiat Money. This is no place for you." This is what i would say to one of this scam-coin investor.  ;D

I have a few posts and I am here for 9 months. Would I sacrifice this account(with reputation) for a few Bitcoins? Yes, I would. I am thinking to start a thread and see, how many I can get :)

Looks like eMunie is a scam too , courtesy of research by our beloved member who requested to be anonymous for his extensive outlook and service to this community! :)

Cheers and thank you very much mate.

eMunie has the potential to be the biggest bitcoin theft ever, very interesting news.

Second

Daniel claims to have raised over 600 BTC from beta testers alone.  Yet eMunie's threads on Bitcointalk are small, only a small handful of testers post and the download page barely has any downloads.

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/files/category/1-emunie-releases/
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1094-emunie-pre-launch-sale-dutch-auction/

Daniel restricted the beta testers to $8K USD investment each.  How is this possible for such few beta testers to raise that much?  Why did so many decide to go in?  Where are these beta testers?  Because they don't seem to be posting or downloading the client very much (if I was putting in $8K of my money, I would take this more seriously).

yet then Why he says that he took off 600 BTC+ from Beta Testers alone? if it was free? :S

sorry what was free?

Thank you for your kind reply mate , according to sources Beta testers had to invest to get into the circle and it was said that the developer had accumulated around 600+ BTC in funds , with all due respect are you implying that you did not have to pay to get in? If then what Daniel has said is completely false.

Thank you very much for your time with regards to this matter.

Cheers,
Soopy

Is anyone in the eMunie beta test? I was going to invest about 5btc into it, now thanks to that information i'm doubting it all.

PS: Looks like eMunie is a scam too and here why it looks like courtesy of member who requested to be anonymous and from his own words (Thank you very much mate!)

Thank you for your kind reply mate , according to sources Beta testers had to invest to get into the circle and it was said that the developer had accumulated around 600+ BTC in funds , with all due respect are you implying that you did not have to pay to get in? If then what Daniel has said is completely false.

Thank you very much for your time with regards to this matter.

Cheers,
Soopy

Thank you for your kind reply mate , according to sources Beta testers had to invest to get into the circle and it was said that the developer had accumulated around 600+ BTC in funds , with all due respect are you implying that you did not have to pay to get in? If then what Daniel has said is completely false.

Thank you very much for your time with regards to this matter.

Cheers,
Soopy

Daniel claims to have raised over 600 BTC from beta testers alone.  Yet eMunie's threads on Bitcointalk are small, only a small handful of testers post and the download page barely has any downloads.

I have a very hard time believing eMunie is a scam.

I'd like some clarification on eMunie too... There are literally thousands of posts in the official forum.

If it was a scam, it would be of epic proportions.

I'd like some clarification on eMunie too... There are literally thousands of posts in the official forum.

If it was a scam, it would be of epic proportions.

soopy452000
   
[PRE-ANN 2]SHERLOCK COIN (SHC) - Donator Relations/Giveaway Discussion
January 07, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
   
My Dear Fellow Alt-coiners,

As we see so many ALT-coins coming out of their shells everyday , I wanted to come up with one that would be somewhat unique , somewhat rare and would cater to the targeted enthusiasts and people who are new to the Crypto world , while not making this coin a Pump and Dump coin I wanted to make it a more special one , the coin is highly for enthusiasts who believe in what I believe , it is something deep and I believe you would understand.

I have supported many upcoming coins and seen many die , the main reason for fail is the lack of support from the Developer and Updates , working to get it to an exchange and keep it spreading , with my experience with all of these seeing people fail , get up and work up their mistakes , I've thought to myself I will make the ultimate coin and guess what I will put 100% of my efforts into it and be on toes and make it succeed.

Currently my intention is to launch the coin by 12th of January 2014 , I'm working on the formalities , getting everything up by then and will announce on this thread about it all.

Currently I'm in need of hefty donations from interested parties to make this coin a success not at all just another coin , everyone who is willing to donate is kindly and gratefully asked to do so to the following BTC address and drop me a PM.

Donations: 1CDxR9DTrzMiC8qRceFQTkdvMPqHxBm4Kz

Coin Allocations for Donations:-

1 BTC Donations will get the stakeholder a maximum of 10,000 SHC

0.1 BTC Donations will get the stakeholder a maximum of 1,000 SHC

0.01 BTC Donations will get a maximum of 100 SHC

Holy shit you must be a rocket scientist fo sho. Tell me, what equation did you use to divide that 600 btc into BTT posts?

eMunie deserves (and gets) better trolls then this. You sir, can choke on a fuck stick and die.

xoxo

billotronic

Thank you for your kind reply mate , according to sources Beta testers had to invest to get into the circle and it was said that the developer had accumulated around 600+ BTC in funds , with all due respect are you implying that you did not have to pay to get in? If then what Daniel has said is completely false.

Thank you very much for your time with regards to this matter.

Cheers,
Soopy

Look I am not attacking eMunie with this post but I just want to point out that the main impression you guys give off who have just come over from the eMunie forums.

The posts and responses such as suck as: choke on a fuck stick and die, are not only overly defensive but pretty down right immature. While there was some clarification and reasoned responses from actual beta testers(which seemed more neutral) the community response from core community members such as billtronic Visin ect is downright appalling. A well reasoned mature response is the image that you want to be giving to accusations(which will always arise) to eMunie. Not an emotional spitting at people which are actually pointing to potential discrepancies within a system that is closed. You guys are the only ones with this information and are responsible for divulging it if you want any trust to be built as the system is not and will not for the time being be open to the community.

If you have a system of currency which is closed and there is no public access to information not only will accusations arise but consistent doubt and questioning will need to be answered in a mature way. Only the first inside community beta testers seem to have information to digress yet they are more interested in yelling and spitting the dummy at any accusation that arises. What does this show you about the current state of the community?

Don't get me wrong congratulations on having such a strong "community response" to accusations of a scam. It shows you that the community is a close knit community which will back each other up in a fight. But we aren't going out on a friday night looking for people to smash that look at us the wrong way. Instead people on this board are looking to be part of an exchange/trade system which is open honest and can revolutionise they way we interact with each other . This isn't built of an aggressive style pub mentality, its built of a mature, growing and open community. Maybe eMunie needs to learn this before people will ever decide to give their trust away to them.

Look I am not attacking eMunie with this post but I just want to point out that the main impression you guys give off who have just come over from the eMunie forums.

The posts and responses such as suck as: choke on a fuck stick and die, are not only overly defensive but pretty down right immature. While there was some clarification and reasoned responses from actual beta testers(which seemed more neutral) the community response from core community members such as billtronic Visin ect is downright appalling. A well reasoned mature response is the image that you want to be giving to accusations(which will always arise) to eMunie. Not an emotional spitting at people which are actually pointing to potential discrepancies within a system that is closed. You guys are the only ones with this information and are responsible for divulging it if you want any trust to be built as the system is not and will not for the time being be open to the community.

If you have a system of currency which is closed and there is no public access to information not only will accusations arise but consistent doubt and questioning will need to be answered in a mature way. Only the first inside community beta testers seem to have information to digress yet they are more interested in yelling and spitting the dummy at any accusation that arises. What does this show you about the current state of the community?

Don't get me wrong congratulations on having such a strong "community response" to accusations of a scam. It shows you that the community is a close knit community which will back each other up in a fight. But we aren't going out on a friday night looking for people to smash that look at us the wrong way. Instead people on this board are looking to be part of an exchange/trade system which is open honest and can revolutionise they way we interact with each other . This isn't built of an aggressive style pub mentality, its built of a mature, growing and open community. Maybe eMunie needs to learn this before people will ever decide to give their trust away to them.

It's easy to Judge - But wait until your judged? yeah than come to me with your high horse!
Let's be honest... The only reason you're calling Emunie a scam is because you were expecting to get rich quick!
Well... BOO, HOO, HOO. If any coin should be labeled a scam it's bitcoin itself! That's what you're missing here folks:
The Point... bitcoin is only for the rich elite who can afford expensive hardware(asics) - Emunie (which is an honest
crypto-currency, and received TRUE dedicated hard work!) is for... EVERYONE! so before you judge - please get your
facts strait! You owe the Emunie community a HUGE apology!

Indeed , for everyone?
Even for the 2 billion peoples that can't afford a computer? =)))

There were low download counts and a high claim of 600 BTC invested.

When a child throws a turd at a parent is it really the best way to deal with it to throw the turd back at a kid? At the end of the day I was just pointing out that the founding community members of eMunie shouldn't turn into two kids throwing turds at other kids. There are claims and there will always be claims that don't add up and this arises because eMunie is a closed system. The public has no access to any information other than snippets on the forum.

Because some guy on there attempted to scam me out of $2k even though he had been paid.  It wasnt even anything to do with BHW, yet he posted a thread.  I kicked up a fuss about it, stating it was nothing to do with BHW, it wasnt for a service or product listed on there as it was personal business and refused to yield to his threats.

For some reason the BHW mods decided to poke their noses in even though it was nothing to do with them, by this point I was trying to keep my good name yet they sided with him even though I had proof I'd paid him.  The BHW mods are as crooked as the members quite frankly and I wouldn't visit that place again if I was paid to.

Hopefully that is a sufficient explanation regarding a crooked websites actions.

OP has his own agenda ... calling these IPO coins a scam and look what he does:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920)
seems he's a bit upset no one donated to his IPO coin

OP has his own agenda ... calling these IPO coins a scam and look what he does:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920)

seems he's a bit upset no one donated to his IPO coin

OP has his own agenda ... calling these IPO coins a scam and look what he does:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400920)

seems he's a bit upset no one donated to his IPO coin

TL/DR: I really like eMunie.

 

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I was invited to the beta test group a few days ago.  I'm currently running several test instances of the user-client and hatcher-client across multiple servers spread out geographically.  

 

In no way ever have I been requested to contribute financially to the project.  I have, however, done so willingly based upon my initial testing results.

 

Initial first impression of the client:

This application will most likely be a game-changer.  I have to constantly temper my enthusiasm for how beautifully and elegantly the current beta version operates and thankfully my wife is always there to keep my "feet on the ground."   ;)     Regardless, in its current version I find it to be elegant, simple, easy-to-use and understand.  Those are high bars to leap over in the crypto-currency environment if "we" (the less than 1% of the world involved in the electronic money ecosystem) ever hope to achieve any significant adoption by the masses who don't care for complicated systems.

 

Fundamentally, my main reasons for why I believe in emunie are based on its economic model since it is founded upon "The Quantity Theory of Money" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity_theory_of_money

 

The basic premise behind this theory is that the "supply" of a currency should equal "demand" for its use and nothing more.   This theory is the ONLY theory that ALL competing economic theorists can fundamentally agree on (read up on Keynesians vs. Monetarists vs. Austrians vs. Milton Friedman).  As such, if you can find ANY theory that all of these guys can agree on as being an accurate representation for how trade and commerce should operate efficiently then you know you've stumbled upon something revolutionary.

 

However, "ideas" are dime-a-dozen, the real test of an idea is in its "implementation" in a real world environment.  Accordingly, once it has been tried and subsequently fails there are many critics available that will quickly pounce upon the notion that the "theory" itself is flawed.  This is not entirely true.  As someone with a Six-Sigma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma) background for over 15 years + 20 years experience in Supply Chain Management (ie study of supply vs. demand in business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain_management) I would suggest that the fault "might" lie instead upon the technical "implementation" of the theory since the tools to efficiently implement it might not have existed at the time it was implemented.

 

For the past 5000 years the "implementation" of this theory has been tested countless times to be a successful method of promoting trade and commerce.  However, the failure of each of these "implementations" has NOT been been because of the theory itself, but rather a failure in how best to "control" the supply vs. the demand through the limited tools available at the time.

 

Prior to the internet, there was really no easy, systematic, or automated method to determine supply vs. demand.  As such, humans were needed to be in control centrally.  This was done by Kings, central planners and, most recently, by central banks through the study and analysis of a whole host of trailing and leading economic indicators.  Unfortunately (by design), this system is flawed in numerous ways since primarily the central body is operating in a "reactionary" environment in that they must constantly be tweaking the supply to match demand based on the latest data available.  When they miscalculate in their analysis we get a predictable set of circumstances that lead to either an inflationary or deflationary environment.  At these extremes we find hysteria and depression since these are the natural outcomes from mismanaging the supply/demand based on imperfect information.

 

In the world of emunie the above scenario is removed from the hands of a centrally managed group that uses imperfect information to control suppy/demand and is instead autonomously managed by the system itself.  As demand increases so does supply.  As supply increases, it is distributed equally among all users so that the impact of inflation is eliminated (i.e. a rising tide lifts all boats equally).  A rising supply at "just the right level" ensures trade and commerce.  The ability to adjust supply/demand in near real-time across a decentralized network is what sets this system miles above any competing "coin" based solutions.

 

At this point I've probably waxed on for far too long (as my wife will agree I have a tendency to do) so in closing I'd like to suggest for you to watch the following videos I have seen recently if you have the time (yes, they are a bit long, but worthwhile nonetheless).

 

While watching each video try to avoid the conspiracy theory conjecture and the "us vs. them" rhetoric that can easily be incited in such an emotionally charged topic as money often leads to.  Instead, try to keep a pragmatic/rational mindset and always continually ask "Why?"  By that, I mean you should keep asking yourself "why" each of these "implementations" has failed.

 

 

History of currency:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdSq5H7awi8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ

Comment:  Granted this guy is a promoter of gold/silver, but the history lesson is quite relevant.  Technically, (my view) gold and silver are nothing more than non-technological method for "trying" to control supply/demand in world of imperfect knowledge of supply/demand by pegging it to something that we know is limited.  As stated earlier, previously we didn't know of any other way to manage it (although emunie has found a way).

 

Note how at around 3 to 4 minutes into it we see "why" it was successful in that it was standard, universal, fairly stable unit of account (price) that  allowed for the coins to be successful.

 

Biggest Scam in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Comment:   This video does a solid job of explaining the current central bank process, but I provide it more so as an example of a flawed "implementation" of the theory to try and control supply/demand based on imperfect information.

 

Secret of Oz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27g

Comment:  This provides a view of an alternative "implementation" based on who should manage supply (government instead of central bank), but never discusses "how" it will be controlled by the government to ensure supply matches demand.  As such, regardless of whether a central bank or the government controls it are meaningless since both would be dependent upon imperfect information and self interests to manage the environment.  However, the video does show several examples for how allowing "supply"  to be adjusted dynamically to meet demand results in the promotion of increased trade and commerce.

It's quite hilarious that some of you people are really thrashing people who do not agree with your thoughts lol , my coin is not an IPO coin and nor I will not premine I will mine when launched and will giveaway all donators from my own mining when it's launched lol you see I'm not after profits as much as some of you who are thrashing on the thread are. Cheers! :)

You tried to scam people with your shitcoin and failed, then became jealous of other scammers (Visa/Aero) making money so you call them out. Let's face it, this thread wasn't born out of altruism.

Let the time decide mate. :) it's not that long for it to be launched , I invite you to mine as well and no it's not an IPO coin, it's a real crypto and even if I get donations or not I will release it end of story. :)