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Hello, we are opened for public.
Everybody knows bitcoin is not truly anonymous system. Once you buy/sell bitcoins or order goods to your home address, your anonymity disappear. Since this moment all your past and further transactions are trackable by third party. That is why we recommend using a quality mixing service.

We are trying to solve two main problems of mixing service:
- Problem of confidence: We generate digitally signed proof (Letter of Guarantee) for every order. So when you send us bitcoins to be mixed, you have a proof that incoming address has truly been generated by our server.
- Problem of large amounts: Our investors ready to fill up our reserve, we are expecting about 2,000-3,000 BTC to be available for instant mixing.
Yes, our service is instant. You don't need to wait for other users, we already have a big reserve instantly available for exchange.

Waiting for testers, feedback welcome, security bugs are paid.

Thank you!
And stay protected!

UPDATE:
Official TOR Mirror: bitmixer2whesjgj.onion (http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion)

Really love those colors that you have used. Very nice service. I personally dont need anything mixed but im sure others might.

See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0).


What's with the post count pumping?

Very nice to see new mixer service. But you should know, that without reputation (you are not backed by any known, trusted person), without history from previous projects, you may have no trust to run such service. Personally I would not send any coins to you, you may dissapear with them without any notice and I will be left with nothing.

People, please be aware before sending any coins to this new, unknown service.

Thanx for comments.
I know we need more time to build trust. Unfortunately this kind of business requires to guard privacy not only of our customers, but of founders too.

The good news is you don't need to trust us a huge amount at once - you can mix your coins step by step using small amounts. Your personal 'bitmixer code' guarantees that your previous coins will never be mixed with new ones! To learn more, please read our faq (https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html).

Thank to testers who helped to improve our service.
We look forward to serving you.

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steve15, where did you send your coins? To donation address (1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza), or to generater QR code address? Can you show up blockchain address, so we can check Letter of Guarantee link?

I'm sorry, but we didn't receive transaction for 0.9 BTC today. Could you give the blockchain link to your transaction? Did you save the Letter of Guarantee?

BTW, Letter of Guarantee is not public for security reason. It is accessible only for user who initiated exchange. You have to save the letter to your computer if you have any doubt.

Allright, a couple of things went wrong here.

1: I made a typo claiming i've send 0.9. This should be 0.09
2: All amount smaller then 0.1 are considered as 'donations', thus not being processed.

BITMIXER.IO claims they will process my payment, so if they do, i have to offer my public excuse to them.

Small advice to bitmixer.io: Make this more visible on your website BEFORE users send money.

This being said:

LEGIT SITE

Hey,
As promised, my signature keeps on working.
Thanks in advance for the payout last week.
I wish you a good sunday.

Any service which could potentially keep logs which deanonymize customers must be assumed to be doing so.

Sorry if I have not been so clear, as to how it works and what the benefits of bitmixer for customers?
Thanks you...

https://bitmixer.io/why.html

anybody sent 5+ btc to this site? and it cames back?  :D
I'm not sure, maybe somebody send a lot of money and he will lost it.

How can one verify that you truly mixed the coins? Blockchain.info's taint analysis, the only site I know, is not working anymore.

Are you planning on adding a feature for a blockchain analysis on your website?

I tried this service with an amount of 50 Euro.
I choose 10 hours and all went fine!

but i´m too afraid to send 2 BTC or somethin like this :D

Just want to notice our customers.
Please always use at least 2 outgoing addresses. If attacker knows our fee and sum you transferred, he can analyse blockchain and find outgoing transaction! That is why we strongly recommend to use several forward addresses and time delay.
Please also save the Letter of Guarantee before you send us coins. It is the only proof of our obligations.
Thank you.

I would just like to add, that mixing services are useless if you don't use them in combination with Tor as your IP is revealed to network when sending BTC.

And even Tor can be already spoiled if anyone(like some nazi US department like NSA, CIA, etc.) has many nodes in Tor network.

Blockchain’s SharedCoin Users Can Be Identified, Says Security Expert (http://www.coindesk.com/blockchains-sharedcoin-users-can-identified-says-security-expert/)
Be careful.

Hi,

I'm having an issue with your service releasing a payment that it's had over 48 hours.

I've sent you a PM here last night.

Could you please look at the message and reply.

I initially tried emailing you multiple times through your contact info on your website.

I keep receiving the error message:

"Sorry, there was a problem submitting your request. Please try again later."


I've had positive experiences with your service in the past and would like to resolve this ASAP.

Thank you

digilean please check PM, I did reply several hours ago.

Hello,

I really would like to get this resolved and have not heard back from you from my last two replies.

Be very careful of your dealings with bitmixer.io

"I don't take kindly to your accusations that I transferred the btcs.

I have no idea what your service is capable of - and exposing and utilizing ones private keys does not seem out the question now - considering how you handled this situation.
 
You have done nothing but make accusations since I inquired about the matter.

Instead of taking down facts and investigating you've only wanted to quickly point fingers at me.

I had to chase down the address where my btc are and even then I repeatedly had to ask you is that address connected to your service.

I will not stop investigating what happened to my coins nor alerting other people to you shoddy customer service and service in general."

Ok, if you want public discussion, let's see what happens. Again.

1. You have sent 0.33 BTC to the address generated by our service in order to be transferred to two your addresses: 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N and 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC.
2. As you can see in blockchain we did our obligations:

https://blockchain.info/tx/1fb8987e1b4588eb89ce0f7054d41d4acd29ce65b3166107745a24ba84dd2aed
https://blockchain.info/tx/da787fa99c22bab1a888113c0b34089dad82ee1f89c6f9cb4047e29ea0dd4491

0.1603915 BTC has been transferred to 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC 2014-06-14 13:50:04
0.1669585 BTC has been transferred to 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N 2014-06-14 13:51:03

What else? Seems you are trying to blame us for future flow of funds on your wallet :) You know, we can't manage your wallet.

i]"What else? Seems you are trying to blame us for future flow of funds on your wallet Smiley You know, we can't manage your wallet"[/i]

How and where am I asking about anything but the .33 btc I sent to your service?

Instead of dealing with facts, you seem to desperately attempt to shift the focus.

I am not trying to blame you for anything.

I requested information on a transaction I made using your services.

Instead of asking for information you immediately begin to shift blame instead of looking at and responding to the facts I had repeatedly sent you.

I initially let it pass as my only concern is where are my funds.

I will simply post all of the conversation as it speaks for its self.

As once again, instead of dealing with facts at hand, you attempt to shift focus to a blame game.

Interesting how now after almost 72 hours and all my btc have appeared.

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Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 05:19:53 PM »
   
I don't take kindly to your accusations that I transferred the btcs.

I have no idea what your service is capable of - and exposing and utilizing ones private keys does not seem out the question now - considering how you handled this situation.
 
You have done nothing but make accusations since I inquired about the matter.

Instead of taking down facts and investigating you've only wanted to quickly point fingers at me.

I had to chase down the address where my btc are and even then I repeatedly had to ask you is that address connected to your service.

I will not stop investigating what happened to my coins nor alerting other people to you shoddy customer service and service in general.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 05:04:09 PM »
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I'm sorry. But we transferred bitcoins to the addresses you entered. So we did all our obligations.
We couldn't make other transactions from your addresses, because only the private key owner can make it. It might be you.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 04:40:51 PM »
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Repeat,  I did not transfer the bitcoins.

I have been waiting for them to arrive in my account.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 04:38:10 PM »

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Ok. 1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY is no way connected to our service. Seems it is a addreess where you transferred bitcoins after mixing.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 04:00:57 PM »

   
Hi,

As I stated until I return home from work I can not access the 2nd btc address.

So I can not say it is 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC

I can say, when I return home this evening I will have the 2nd address for you.

What I can say is 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N was one address - and there was a 2nd address.

The total .33 btc to be mixed.

I sent it to the address 1Md76QTrE9r1oFJ4NqxdM2bTvVNe1Wj98a that your website generated.

I also entered the code ***** - from my previous transaction with you about a month ago.

Your website said to enter this code to prevent my coins from being mixed with the same address.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 03:50:19 PM »
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Analysing information you provided I guess the second address was 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC.

So let's see.

1. You started the order and entered two forward addresses:
 - 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N (51%)
 - 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC (49%)

2. You have transferred 0.33 BTC to the address generated by our server (1Md76QTrE9r1oFJ4NqxdM2bTvVNe1Wj98a).

All right at this point?



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 03:30:11 PM »

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Hello,

Are you responded to this message or waiting to I return home this evening with the 2nd address?

I'd like to know what's going on?

Repeat, I am not on the computer that I do my btc transactions on and will not be until I return home in the evening

I sent you one of the two addresses I have on me, 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N that a total of .33 btc was to be sent to.

And I sent you a trail of where the 0.1669585 btc, of the .33 btc, was sent from - 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 on 2014-06-14 13:51:03 - which obviously is one of your addresses.

And I also sent you the address of where my 0.1669585 btc is now sitting, 1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY, with various other payments.

Repeat, is the addresses where my 0.1669585 btc is now sitting, 1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY, connected to you?

Thank you.




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 02:54:52 PM »
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Repeat, I am not on the computer that I do my btc transactions on and will not be until I return home in the evening

I sent you one of the addresses I have on me and a trail of where the 0.1669585 btc was sent from - 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 on 2014-06-14 13:51:03 - which obviously is one of your addresses.

And I sent you the address of where it is sitting now with various other payments.

Repeat, is the addresses connected to you, where my  0.1669585 btc is sitting?



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 02:39:57 PM »
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I sent you an address where part of my coins originated from you and where part of my coins are now sitting.

Are any of these addressees associated with you?

I have made no transactions from that address and need to find out how my coins where moved.

REPEATING:

I am not on the computer where the letter would be.

I have the addresses the funds where to be forwarded to.

.33 total was supposed to be forwarded to two addresses.

Only address 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N has 0.1669585 btc sent to it from one of your addresses 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 on 2014-06-14 13:51:03.

It was 1 part of a two part transaction from 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56

1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 (124.38151665 BTC - Output)
 
      1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N - (Spent) 0.1669585 BTC - one of my addresses
15PtV5sN3wVkU4WhXNPa17r3f7ku66yLKa - (Spent) 124.21445815 BTC


Then on  2014-06-14 18:40:02, the 0.1669585 btc was sent to 1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY - where it is still sitting now along with other funds totaling 2.1 btc.

Is that addresses associated with you?

1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY - (Unspent) 2.1 BTC

19tB8HxQQp8EomQVcTAaHriSjs6XLi9Edy (0.46 BTC - Output)
1CCL5zA66ztmcaz24vqtiWm7EcjPgvos5B (0.45737575 BTC - Output)
1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N (0.1669585 BTC - Output) - my address which I have not sent any funds from
1LBGeXkkwhGkJq3q8niPmZRx8RQ827PduJ (0.175 BTC - Output)
1CGTPzANsM2531aMdbNvghHK2rpnS8tTtF (0.406642 BTC - Output)
1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC (0.1603915 BTC - Output)
1PQb14FVYM5vSKKdehR6PTZsPD5nhiKhEW (0.163951 BTC - Output)
16T5j1muxoSQ42i2cimZ3hrSj9ZxftW2ih (0.01008125 BTC - Output)
1HJ8ZtJknrPqUibtNNPQWehYYosheuUXta (0.1 BTC - Output)
     

digilean



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 02:39:57 PM »

So the first forward address was 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N
What the second one?




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 02:24:49 PM »
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I am not on the computer where the letter would be.

I have the addresses the funds where to be forwarded to.

.33 total was supposed to be forwarded to two addresses.

Only address 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N has 0.1669585 btc sent to it from 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 on 2014-06-14 13:51:03.

It was 1 part of a two part transaction from 1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56

1F9b7JZwh1yNDATyTJfzM8J7t7L5irZD56 (124.38151665 BTC - Output)
 
      1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N - (Spent) 0.1669585 BTC
15PtV5sN3wVkU4WhXNPa17r3f7ku66yLKa - (Spent) 124.21445815 BTC


Then on  2014-06-14 18:40:02, the 0.1669585 btc was sent to 1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY - where it is still sitting now along with other funds totaling 2.1 btc.

Are these addresses associated with you?

1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY - (Unspent) 2.1 BTC

19tB8HxQQp8EomQVcTAaHriSjs6XLi9Edy (0.46 BTC - Output)
1CCL5zA66ztmcaz24vqtiWm7EcjPgvos5B (0.45737575 BTC - Output)
1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N (0.1669585 BTC - Output) - my address which I have not sent any funds from
1LBGeXkkwhGkJq3q8niPmZRx8RQ827PduJ (0.175 BTC - Output)
1CGTPzANsM2531aMdbNvghHK2rpnS8tTtF (0.406642 BTC - Output)
1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC (0.1603915 BTC - Output)
1PQb14FVYM5vSKKdehR6PTZsPD5nhiKhEW (0.163951 BTC - Output)
16T5j1muxoSQ42i2cimZ3hrSj9ZxftW2ih (0.01008125 BTC - Output)
1HJ8ZtJknrPqUibtNNPQWehYYosheuUXta (0.1 BTC - Output)
     
1LWiU1uaQkdrf4x1ziDuW7RvJKRhE2RStY - (Unspent) 2.1 BTC

digilean



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 02:00:33 PM »

We provide the Letter of Guarantee for every order and recommend to save it before you send us coins (especially if you have leaky memory and don't remember addresses you entered). The Letter of Guarantee is digitally signed by our main account 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza.

Anyone can verify the validity of the Letter using any bitcoin wallet (File->Verify Message). Nobody can forge this Letter. Just because we completely delete all order information after 12 hours, the Letter of Guarantee is the only proof of our obligations. The Letter of Guarantee includes income generated address, forward addresses and time while order is valid.

You did received your coins to addresses you entered. We do not have any balance discrepancy. What forward addresses you entered?




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 01:50:14 PM »
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What is the letter of Guarantee?

And of yet, I have not received my coins.
digilean




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 01:41:39 PM »
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It is absolutely impossible, our service works like a Swiss watch. We didn't receive any errors, so I guess you have received your coins. Could you please paste here the Letter of Guarantee?


Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 01:27:07 PM »
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I have not received the funds in the two address I specified.

When were they sent?
digilean




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 12:45:51 PM »
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The bitcoins are still on our address because we paid you from another address, from our reserve. It is the feature.
We do not have any uncompleted orders, so I guess your order has been completed. I do not have more information, we completely delete all order's data after 12 hours. So please check the Letter of Guarantee if you saved it.



Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: digilean on: Today at 06:17:10 AM »
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What kind of error did you receive on our page?
About your order. We do not send you your coins, that is why your coins are still at 1Md76QTrE9r1oFJ4NqxdM2bTvVNe1Wj98a
We sent you coins from our reserve. So all associations with your previous coins was destroyed.




Re: 48 hours Later & My Funds Hoave Not Moved from you
« Sent to: BITMIXER.IO on: Today at 12:10:29 PM »
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Hi,

Thank you for your response. (responding to the initial note I left on his public page)

I received an error when trying to contact you via your page.

It kept saying try again the message can not be submitted.

The Key issue I'm trying to resolve is, I requested my Bitcoins to be mixed immediately with less than a 12 hour time delay.

It's now been over 48 hours and the coins are still sitting in your address - 1Md76QTrE9r1oFJ4NqxdM2bTvVNe1Wj98a.

Actually, I'm pretty certain I requested no time delay at all.

I had an important purchase to pay for on the 14TH.

I contacted you because I need to know when are the coins going to be released?

Why the delay?

Is there issues with the addresses I gave you to forward the funds to?

48 hours is not a time frame I specified nor can work with.

Like I said, I've had great experiences with you in the past.

I need to know when will my funds be forwarded to the two addresses specified and why is this transaction taking so long?

Thanks
digilean

I'm sorry. You are trying to investigate what happens with your bitcoins after we transferred it to your addresses. It is not our issue. Once again, we have transferred bitcoins to your addresses.

This is the proof:
https://blockchain.info/tx/1fb8987e1b4588eb89ce0f7054d41d4acd29ce65b3166107745a24ba84dd2aed
https://blockchain.info/tx/da787fa99c22bab1a888113c0b34089dad82ee1f89c6f9cb4047e29ea0dd4491

0.1603915 BTC has been transferred to 1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC 2014-06-14 13:50:04
0.1669585 BTC has been transferred to 1NWiooW3Y3Xgavj49iRHCUJcWv6QdF5f7N 2014-06-14 13:51:03

That's all. I'm sorry, if somebody steal your coins or you transferred it to another wallet and forgot. We can't access your wallet, can't send money from it! It impossible without access to private keys. Check your computer for malware. See the history of transaction in your wallet. I hope you will find the cause.

Regards,

Perhaps English is not your 1st language and these adjectives you so freely throw out without due process you fail to grasp their deeper meanings.

I did not "lose access to a wallet".   Somehow unknowingly transfer funds I've been waiting on for over 76 hours.

When I inquired what was going on, never did I accuse you of  stealing.

I gave you the facts: the day, time, addresses involved and asked was there an issue or delay on your end? 

I came totally prepared to investigate every aspect - never accusing you of stealing - but trying to figure out the logic of events.

You are the one instead of doing due process wanted to point fingers.

If i made any errors I have no issue taking responsibility.

I told you repeatedly The 2nd address I could only access when I returned home if you needed that for  a full investigation.

Yet, for someones whose records are destroyed at 12 hrs you insisted, more than 48 hrs after he transaction some  address was mine.

And again I informed you I cant say it is without going home and looking at the 2nd address.

Then you outright suggested I am complicit in deceit.

If that is the way you handle business and a "through" investigation, I had no issue going public with this facts.

As stated, Im trying to find out what happened to .33 sent through your service.

All I asked of you was due process.

Were the addressees yours.

I'm more interested in finding out exactly what happened.

Knowing I can trust a mixer service. 

Knowing I have no malware or keylogger on my system is key to me.

You started throwing out accusations, without having the full facts.

Something I did not appreciate nor which helps get to the bottom of the issue.

I can explain how I guess the second address - it's easy. You have provided this info:
your initial sum was 0.33 BTC, you have received 0.1669585 BTC to one address. So it must be 0.1603915 BTC to be transferred to another one. We see exact output:  1Fe4vfkVszfJ1VXU7DHVDEN653kZtJE9fC (0.1603915 BTC - Output) in your info.
(0.1669585 + 0.0005 + 0.1603915 + 0.0005)/0.995 = 0.33. It is very simple calculations.

That is why we recommend to use several forward addresses and time delay. Attacker can analyse the blockchain anf find outgoing transaction if he knows our fees.

You started the public discussion, not me. If you don't want it please delete all your messages here, I will delete my ones.

0.33 bitcoins was added to our reserve. Then we paid you from another addresses. This is the essence of our service - you receive another coins, not the same you have transferred to us.
Here the proof that we really transferred coins to you:
https://blockchain.info/tx/1fb8987e1b4588eb89ce0f7054d41d4acd29ce65b3166107745a24ba84dd2aed
https://blockchain.info/tx/da787fa99c22bab1a888113c0b34089dad82ee1f89c6f9cb4047e29ea0dd4491
So you have received promised coins, right?
Sorry, I can't add something else.

Hello
I'm intresting in investing, but contact form doesn't work, when i try submit message it back to me "Sorry, there was a problem submitting your request. Please try again later." near week already. Please fix it.

Please check PM. The contact form should work if you enabled javascript and cookies.

Hello
I try deposit 0.01btc to 1CXDBgjZGoZrgqNtqeKt6Bswdw6Xa7eWBm but it says:
0.0098 BTC accepted as donation.
Minimum for mixing: 0.01 BTC.
Please retunr my btc address: 1FvfNpnoNm1fxzByT8WU6mUm718MUm2g94
and I will try again
Thanks

You actually sent 0.0098 BTC, it is below our minimum. Please check here https://blockchain.info/address/1CXDBgjZGoZrgqNtqeKt6Bswdw6Xa7eWBm
I've processed your order manually.
Regards,

So you have stole our design and want to sell it now???

I just tried your service.. works wonderfully but I got klee's hacked bitcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686275.0). Should I be worried about using them on exchanges?

It's actually a big problem, if you are just mixing for privacy, what if you get bitcoins that were used to pay for assassination?

You got coins from us, not from hacker. It is like a cash you got selling something. Banknotes could be used by criminals before, but it is not your guilt... Well, we are thinking about mixing coins in public exchange before sending to our customers.

Not exactly like cash. More like a bank, because it is traceable. You can receive regular payments to your bank account for innocently delivering pizzas to a drug cartel. But getting money from a drug cartel will raise suspicion. Of course you can prove you were just delivering pizza, but the aim is not even to have to prove it.

With cash it indeed doesn't matter who you receive it from. But if with it didn't matter then you could just create a new address, send the coin to that address and claim you bought those coins - no need for mixing, right? But people still use mixers so..


Two things you should add to your service:

If you choose 2 forwarding addresses and the difference is 1 hour, it will be exactly 3600 seconds. You should make a feature so that the time is random within a certain range.

For a larger fee you could give out freshly mined coins. You could probably buy new coins from miners.

We transfer mixed coins after we receive numbers of needed confirmations (plus time delay) - it is a random time.
I'm not sure that miners will buy our coins, but we may exchange its to "fresh" coins using public exchange. We already did it, it works for several hundred bitcoins daily. I think we will develop automatic engine this autumn.

Ahhh, I got the idea. Yeah, on exchanges there are already tons of newly mined coins and clean coins.

No, the time between the two transfers to my forward addresses was exactly 3600 seconds.. That could help tracing them down... Or maybe it doesn't matter, you have likely spent more time thinking about this. What is your opinion on this?

I think the time between transactions has no matter. It goes to different addresses and usually from various sources. But we can adjust this. The main current problem - fixed fee. If attacker knows that you use our service, he potentially can analyze blockchain for the next 24 hours and find correspond outgoing transactions. We will add the possibility to set custom fee further.
   

Hi, i'm waiting a transaction for about 30h(i didn't set time delay!), i sent 3 emails to support email of bitmixer and i sent pm to BITMIXER.IO with no reply for 30h, where are my coins? please reply via PM

Thanks

Anyway, can you let me know when you have ran out of klee's coins?

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I have mentioned on other threads that I have used bitmixer.io (http://bitmixer.io)'s service several times, I am now up to about 10 times (including once today) that I have used the service.

Every single time everything went smoothly.  I sent BTC to FOUR wallets in one of my transactions with them.

While I am not able to comment on exactly how stealthy the service is (based on time delay, using just one "to" wallet address, etc.), the outputs of the transactions (I look at blockchain.info) seem like bitmixer.io does a good job covering the trail (none of the sending wallets in the bulk match my actual sending wallet).  Taint seems relatively low as well, another plus.

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I do have to acknowledge that sharedcoin.com (http://sharedcoin.com) has also worked well for me.  My understanding of their security flaw (allowing skilled hackers to follow mixed transactions) is that "they are working on it".  I would have confidence in sharedcoin.com (they are affiliated or owned by blockchain.info) as well.

Especially if you use both mixing services, one right after the other, to REALLY HIDE your trail...    

They don't cost much...

:)   ;)

still no reply and no coins after almost 2 days... please at least reply to PMs

Someone know the user running this website so i can contact via PM? i sent 4 emails to support team without response for 2 days and i also sent some PMs to the "BITMIXER.IO" profile without reply

Thank you

Still no reply and no coin after 3 days

BITMIXER.IO profile didn't login in last 4 days (Last Active:    July 15, 2014, 03:07:24 PM). Can you explain what's going on?

My coins were not forwarded to my bitcoin address because of a bug from the bitmixer.io site

if you are the owner of the site please PM me for other details

Thanks

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On an unrelated matter (no loss of money or BTC), I have not received a reply to my PM to them either.

4 days no coin and no reply....

Where are they?? Is this related to klee?

I don't know but i hope i get my btc back
5 days no coin and no reply...

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I used bitmixer.io (http://bitmixer.io) again today.  A fairly small amount.  Everything went fine, the money arrived in about an hour, with a confirmation.

They issue a "Letter of Guarantee" (look for it during the process), which confirms that they will be sending BTC from the address they give you to the address you want them to send it to.  They recommend that you SAVE the letter as a document with you browser.  The BTC address they give you is good for 12 hours, so if you want to use the service, I would recommend allocating an hour or so of time right away when mixing coins.

I am now doing that in case of a problem if it ever happens in the future.  I would recommend that everyone else do the same.

I am not involved with this service in any way (other than using it), but it has worked just fine for me about 11 times now.  11 times seems like they have their act together re their services.

Well, i was only unlucky to get this bug, but the fact is i didn't received a reply to PM or support email from 6 days, i'm still waiting the coins and a reply!!

How much did you mix? is it above the minimum? "I recall him saying that if it's below minimum it's considered a donation".

No, i sent around 0.05 BTC

7 days and I'm in the same situation, this website have a terrible support service, I also needed it fast because i buy and sell stuff for btc and everyday passing is like i lose money

Last Active: Today at 11:26:24 AM
But no reply...
8 days and counting...

9 Days, no coin and no reply

Last Active: Today at 06:24:26 AM

I don't know why he don't reply to my PMs, he went online today and other 2 days....
10 Days and still waiting
Last Active: Today at 05:19:31 AM

11 Days and still waiting
I got a reply via email:
"Please use this support system, What happens?"
i replied and i got no reply, Are you joking? after 6+ emails and 4 PM you ask what happened? I'm still waiting my BTC, in the next days i will open a new thread to the Scam Accusation section because i'm tired to write here, and maybe if i write to the scam accusation he will reply to me

How long is the time delay, typically? I've been waiting for a couple of hours, but it seems that it can take anywhere up to a few days.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #vabzIs7z9ersqEsH

Never mind, just got it. I guess the service can take a while.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #79mvegVjRGAx3nq1

Hum..
I'm glad I checked before using. If they are having delay issues I'll need to skip. Maybe I'll give them a go once everything is fine.

Site was down for few days earlier, but now its up and working again.

Tested with 1 btc and works just fine for me at least. Taint analysis shows also that coins are well mixed.

It's been well over 3 days now that the address created by the website received the money but it hasn't been forwarded to my wallet.

I suspect random scam...

No response after using the contact form on website.

On this week sent few times 1-3 bitcoins and no problems at all.

Surely you guys use genuine bitmixer.io? Do NOT use scamsite bitmixer.info!

Edit: "bitmixer.info is a scam... warning": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601496.msg6625849#msg6625849 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601496.msg6625849#msg6625849)

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I have used bitmixer.io (http://bitmixer.io) some 15 times now, with no problems at all.  I have used a couple of their options (once I ran them with a four hour delay, and twice I have sent them to multiple wallets).  

EDIT: Do as they suggest, save the "Letter of Guarantee page"!  That gives you some evidence to present them if something gets messed-up.

Each time I get BTC I run them through bitmixer (first) as well as blockchain.info (http://blockchain.info)'s SharedCoin service.  Running both services in sequence like that costs more, but your BTC gets well-hidden with very low taint.

"YMMV"

Just used bitmixer.io and I really like the service.  Thinking about investing.

so is this service working or no? Why starter of this thread doesn't reply to his users messages?

I started reading, thought it's just another scam and then last post says all fine??

I have just used it to mix a lot of BTC with no issues at all.  Not one.  AFAICT it is not a scam and never was.  They might have very bad/slow customer service in case something were to go wrong (I have never had anything go wrong so I would not know) but that is par for the course in Bitcoinland.

Very fast, you just:  setup,  send BTC,  wait for the required number of confirmations, get new BTC minus the fee.


Pro tip 1:

When you setup the mixing you can enter the amount you want to get out instead of the amount you want to put it.  That way it gives you the exact fee that will be required.  The exact fee is never exactly 5% by design.  So I send the amount they calculate with the randomized fee and get out exactly the amount I want.

Pro tip 2:

Be sure to save a copy of the guarantee letter until you get your BTC back from the mixer.   If you close the browser before you save the letter the information about the mixing transaction (input addresses and output addresses) is gone forever by design (you don't want this information kept anywhere so they don't keep it).  Since the mixing is so fast I just keep the letter open in the browser until I get my BTC.  That way if something were to go wrong I could send a copy of it to the customer service.  When I get my BTC I just close the browser and the information is deleted.

Pro tip 3:

Do not send less than the minimum amount of BTC!  Most of the complaints I have seen about this service were from people who sent less than the minimum even though it says, right in the FAQ:

Bitmixer.io is fast,secure and the mixing is done professional! Thanks for giving bitcoin community such service. :)

Bitmixer.io is the first Bitcoin mixer I have ever used and it worked great. Thank you for this amazing service.

After reading all those positive reviews and trying bitmixer out I must say I was quite disappointed - my coins never came back.

Yes, I was using bitmixer.io and not .info. Yes, I sent more than the minimum amount. No, I did not send them to the donations address... I selected 2 hours delay and now after around 10 hours (and counting) I got nothing.

The contact form on the site says "Sorry, there was a problem submitting your request. Please try again later." The OP of this thread (bitmixer.io) has not been online since July 29. It all begins to smell like just another scam...   :(

Anyways, this is expected in the bitcoin world, where everything feels like it's still in the Wild West... so no hard feelings. This message is just to warn others who, like me, "researched" the company before sending money. Alas, I got tricked by the positive reviews.

One additional thing that bothers me - the fees are totally deterministic, so anyone could pretty much figure out who sent what amount from which address. Anonymity - gone... just like my coins!  >:(

Well, it really worked for me and I'm sorry that it didn't for you. Are you sure you used your own address? That you added enough fee's? That the transaction was confirmed? Just trying to help out.

Yes, I used my own address. I sent much more than the minimum, so there were enough fees, the transaction was confirmed.

It worked for you, but have you tried amounts larger than 0.5?

This coin mixing thing seems to be a prevalent problem in all mixers I checked. Small amounts go through, but as soon as you transfer a larger amount, it gets sucked in. Are there any reliable services out there?

Have mixed hundreds of coins at a time, got back every single BTC (minus the fees, of course).

The only thing I can suggest is to contact their support email address.  I contacted them through their email for an issue not related to lost coins (since they have never lost any of my coins) and got a response within 48 hours.  Do you have a copy of the gaurantee letter to send to them?

Maybe there was an issue with the 2 hour delay?  Even if you do not have the gaurantee letter you just need their address, the one that you sent BTC in to and your address, the address you wanted them to be sent back to when done.  With those two addresses they should be able to track down what happened and fix it.  You might also send them the fee amount as that might also help them track it down.

No e-mail address is listed on their site and the contact form does not work ("Sorry there was a problem..."). I do have the guarantee letter, but I have no idea where to send it to. I will be happy if you could PM me their e-mail address. Thanks!

Hello,
I inspected the forward address you've provided me in PM. According to blockchain.info, you've received your coins.

Used their service many times +++

Good service until you have a problem then the support form doesn't work and no reply by PM.

Issue resolved. Reliable service.

Service not working?

mix my coins button does not seem to work..

Did you enter the forward address (the address you want the new coins sent to)?

Yes I did that and added 2 adresses. Time delay I can't seem to confirm though, so the 'mix my coins' button does not work.

Maybe try another browser?  Not sure, it seems to be working for me (Chrome).

Great service! Used it yesterday for the first time to send clean coins to my cold wallet.

Everything was easy to use and understand, will for sure use it again.

I highly recommend bitmixer.io if you want to secure your privacy!

used it a few days ago to tumble nearly 10 BTC, smaller transactions went fine, but I am still missing about 10 BTC. Support isnt replying to mails!

Still doesnt answer to mails and still no coins! Unless he doesnt come forward, ill call SCAM

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It's very important to save the Letter of Guarantee that they suggest that you do.   <=== Muy importante!!!

I had an issue with bitmixer.io, but after some back & forth, it was resolved just fine.

I have used them about 20 times now, about five times since my "issue".

I never got the feeling that I was being scammed.

ive given it a shot since so many people recomend it. thing is when I wanted to save the letter of guarantee, it showed an error. the money still went to a bitmixer address, no matter if I have this thing or not... Hope to get an answer soon, bitmixer replied to my first message, but hasnt answered since..

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Drop off a comment at my blog (even an old post): http://tinyurl.com/9hlvzdx, then delete your comment if you are "concerned about privacy".  I will STILL get an email from Blogger.  Put in your email addy in the comment, then just delete it.  I'll get back to you.

Prove who you say you are!  Maybe there is a way to resolve your issue, but you have to have the right info available, and be nice, professional & courteous...  And patient!

Remember, the Infrastructure of Bitcoinistan™ is clunky, "stuff happens".......  Mix less than, say, 2 BTC at a time.

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Despite my moniker (name) in CAPS I am not affiliated with bitmixer.io, other than being a happy customer.  Good luck.

If you can't download and verify the Letter of Guarantee, you probably use fishing site. There are several hacker's tor exit nodes which redirect users to fishing site.

Please always check our address https://bitmixer.io in your browser. It should be with SSL encryption. Be sure your browser doesn't show any certificate warnings. Also please always save (and verify using your wallet) the Letter of Guarantee before you send us coins. It is the only proof of our obligations

We do not have any errors. Please check the Letter of Guarantee and check destination addresses using https://blockchain.info

well I certainly didnt use a phishing link (i type it by hand, bitmixer.io not hard to remember). Via mail you suggested it may be a malicious tor exit node.. I find that hard to believe, since two transactions on different days where affected, and smaller transactions went through fine..

So youre saying this is not a Bitmixer Address? : 1NkeGTBDmyQ7REumThq1byK3jiWwJBdvzP

 https://blockchain.info/address/1NkeGTBDmyQ7REumThq1byK3jiWwJBdvzP (https://blockchain.info/address/1NkeGTBDmyQ7REumThq1byK3jiWwJBdvzP)

There are lots of transactions, I can only imagine other bitmixer deposits.. Anybody else on the forum who coincidently had this address as bitmixer deposit address?

TOR + BTC = trouble, everybody knows it

We generate unique address for every transaction, but this one has been used many times. Please never send coins if you can't download and verify Letter of Guarantee.

We open official  TOR mirror
Dear TOR users! If you use TOR with https://bitmixer.io, the hacker's exit node can intercept your traffic and return false page. So please always use our official TOR version:

bitmixer2whesjgj.onion (http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion)

Don't connect to https://bitmixer.io with TOR browser! And please never send us coins if you can't download and verify the Letter of Guarantee. The Letter of Guarantee should be signed by our main account 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza.
Thank you.

If I send to a website (betting website, exchange) then from this website I withdraw to an other address, I have mixed my coins, haven't I?

The Bitmixer code idea is good :  Using the BitMixer code means that a user’s previous coins will not be used in further mixing operations. Our problem is solved – every user continues to remain anonymous and private.

I sent you 3000 $ and they are stuck. I didn't receive anything !! Already 24h past !
I wrote you in pm yesteray, please reply !!  ???

How did you get the bitcoin address with 'Bitmixer'-text in it? (1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza)
That is cool.

It's a vanity address,check this link for more info https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanitygen (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanitygen).

Thank you! I will try for a personalized address too.

i havent even see this thread so far, but the idea itself was good.

site does not seem to be working for me. Will let me enter one receiving address, but, the buttons to enter more addresses or to "mix my coins" are not functioning. Any one else having this problem?
 

You If you enter correct bitcoin address, the button should be enabled. You need javascript and cookie enabled in your browser.

Please always check our address https://bitmixer.io in your browser. It should be SSL encrypted. Please NEVER use TOR with our clearnet address https://bitmixer.io. The hacker's exit node can intercept your traffic and send you false page. Please bookmark our TOR mirror http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion. Also please always save (and verify using your wallet) the Letter of Guarantee before you send us coins. It is the only proof of our obligations and evidence that you have not been scammed by fishing site.

cookies enabled, java enabled. Still having the same problem. I have used service before with no issues. any other idea?

so I restarted my computer and now I can enter in multiple addresses, but the "mix my coins" button is not activated. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Never has these problems before.

The service works as usual, we don't receive other reports. Try erase cache and cookies. Or use another browser. 

For the record everyone. Problem was on my end. Fixed it and everything worked like a charm.

Bitmixer.io does not work with Bitcoin addresses starting with 35xxxxxxxxxxxxx...?

I'm sorry, we currently support only addresses started with 1xxx.

Has anyone been able to independently verify that the coins are truly mixed?

The mixing is ensured by our algorithm. After we receive your transfer, we send you absolutely new coins from our reserve, not associated with your ones.
Your coins will be marked by special 'bitcode' in our reserve. Therefore even if you use the service several times you never will receive your previous coins.

There is a very small chance that somebody put coins previously related with your address.

The fee calculator is giving me incorrect results. When entering a desired receive amount, the indicated send amount is too low.

Also, a suggestion: when using bitmixer via tor hidden service, any links to blockchain.info should be to their hidden service address.

It is a good service, I see you can mix instantly up to 2000 BTC!?

Nobody answered to the question I asked last page :

If I send to a website (betting website, exchange) then I withdraw to an other address, I have mixed my coins, haven't I? The website I used know the relation between the 2 addresses but it's very hard for an outside observer to link the 2 addresses.

Exactly.

Most of public exchanges and e-wallets are monitored and it is simple enough to discover what service do you use and send request to administration in order to obtain your destination address. And there are no guarantee that you don't receive the same coins your deposited. But you are right, it is simple method when you don't need a quality privacy protection.

OK. If you need a high quality privacy protection, your service is very good but I was surprised that you send the BTC to the forward address as one transaction so if someone is looking for my 500 BTC transaction and he thinks I am using bitmixer he will look for any 500 BTC - transaction fee that appears in the next 24H.

Allowing to change the fee and delay the transaction are very nice though.

Also, what is your politics for requests by the bitcoin foundation, bitcoin businesses or the authorities about your customers?

You may also use several outgoing addresses. Combining with custom fee and time delay it makes transactions practically untraceable.
It is very difficult to find out and prove that you use bitmixer.io. We use tor for broadcast transactions. We automatically delete all user's data including webserver logs and empty wallets after 12 hours.
You transfer coins to the generated address, but nobody knows that this address linked with our service. You receive your new coins almost instantly. After 12 hours all information about your order is automatically deleted. When your initial coins start moving and hypothetically would be used for prove that it is our coins, we don't have information about your order on the server. We even don't control wallets from where you have received your new coins.
btw, we never received any official requests.

I didn't see the option of using several outgoing addresses for a single transaction going to bitmixer, I will check that.

It seems you would not be able to answer to any requests and you are anonymous so you can't be found easily.

Hi BITMIXER.IO
In recent weeks I have seen several senior members with Bitmixer.io in their signatures.
Are you paying for it?

Yes, please check our signature campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.0

Thanks!

Ok,

I have been around in the bitcoin world for sometime but the whole mixing thing is completely lost on me. Is there like a "Bitcoin Mixing for Dummies"  guide that i could use to understand the whole concept better?  ;D
These are typically the questions i have:

1) Can i send from an Exchange directly to Bitmixer.IO and have the coins mixed and sent to my online wallet?
2) If the above it true, then the identity of the sender (Exchange) will be masked in my online wallet or what will it show me?
3) Is it safe mixing a bigger amount of BTC on here (im thinking 4).
4) If i want to mix the coins already existing in my wallet atm, will that cause the senders to be masked too?
5) In case regulators, in future try and find out where the BTC came from, and cannot find it due to highly effective mixing, where does that leave me? Will i be branded a criminal?

Thanks!

1) Can i send from an Exchange directly to Bitmixer.IO and have the coins mixed and sent to my online wallet?
The generated address is valid only for 12 hours. So we do not recommend to use an exchange in case of delayed payments. If your exchange guarantees instant transfer, you can.

2) If the above it true, then the identity of the sender (Exchange) will be masked in my online wallet or what will it show me?
Yes, you will receive coins never linked with source address.

3) Is it safe mixing a bigger amount of BTC on here (im thinking 4).
If you have any doubts you may mix step by step with smaller sums, just use the same bitcode. We can mix up to 2000 BTC at once.

4) If i want to mix the coins already existing in my wallet atm, will that cause the senders to be masked too?
I'm not sure that I understood your question, please read https://bitmixer.io/how.html in order to understand how our mixer works.

5) In case regulators, in future try and find out where the BTC came from, and cannot find it due to highly effective mixing, where does that leave me? Will i be branded a criminal?
Ask your government, I don't know. We believe all we have the right to privacy.

 - Please read FAQs before mixing.
 - Please always save the Letter of Guarantee before send us coins.
 - Please be sure you don't use fishing site. We operate strongly from https://bitmixer.io and TOR mirror http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion/

I'm looking for support bitmixer.io
I was write in contact form but message hasn't sent and i see error "Sorry, there was a problem submitting your request. Please try again later"
17 of april i sent to mixed 11,99033438 BTC but i have got nothing to my eWallet and contact form doesn't work.  Really company had closed ?

We completely erase all logs and order's info. I can't help you without a Letter of Guarantee. BTW, we don't have errors or balance discrepancy, so I guess your order has been completed.

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Unpaid post as a public service!

===>   Follow their instructions!   <===



EDIT: I am not affiliated with them other than as a happy customer and in their signature campaign.

nice work, what if i want to invest on u, whats minnimum invest and how much profit i will get in how much time,

bitmixer.io doesn't pay anymore for signature, removing.

Enter your bitcointalk uid number: 370533

Are you sure they are not paying anymore for signatures? I'm not seeing anyone complaining about it.

Yes, they didn't paid me twice, and i didn't even touch my signature. So i removed it.

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They paid me yesterday. 

IMPECCABLE  :) 

whats up?
mixing works  :)
fast reply via email

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HI GUYS I WAS USING THIS SERVICE BUT TODAY I WAS SCAMMED BY BITMIXER.IO I SEND THE MONEY AS EVER BUT I DONT RECIEVE MY BITCOINS
I TRY TO USE THE CONTACT FORM BUT DOESNT WORKS
IT IS REALLY SAD TO LOSE UR MONEY IN 1 MINUTE WITH THIS KIND OF SCAM PAGES

I THINK I LOST MY MONEY
 DONT USE BITMIXER.IO SCAM SITE

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Hey there. I accidentaly sent the amount of 1,02251714 to the adress 15ByUUR4EYL7uqo61S4PnzrrqenVPUQ1T3 after the 12-hour-limit was off already. Is there any way I can get my coins back (have letter of guarantee)?

i dont mind to be identified im not a anon or hacker i do legal services and all my tax money goes to my country governement and besides that i even like to be identified in sites conecting my wallets soo no porb of security for me i do like you bitmixer

This is a unique service..I really like what they say on their site "I am not a criminal, why should i mix"

hey im forgot to cover the 0.0001 fee ,
i have transfered 0.01 to the address on your service to be mixing
but i have forgot to cover 0.0001 fees so the rest of my money snt to you is just 0.0099
can you fix this?
if yes i would be happy to use your service again in the future

also i have sent you my letter of guarantee via pm

Thanks

The problem is after 12 hours we completely delete all links between source and destination accounts. So we don't know if your order has been completed or no, all Incoming coins are added to our reserve without linking to destination accounts. They are only marked by your bitcode to prevent receiving it by you in the future. But we don't have info about your orders.

Even if we compensate your payment, you then probably can present the Letter of Guarantee and claim a new payment. Before using our service you've accepted two terms in popup window:
- I understand that incoming address is valid only for 12 hours. All further payments to the given address will be ignored.
- I understand I must save and verify the Letter of Guarantee before I send coins to bitmixer.io
Isn't it?

Well, please contact support. Use e-mail if contact form doesn't work in TOR version. We can resolve the problem if you can sign the confirmation using wallet you used to transfer coins.

Will it be possible to insert manually set fees with your numpad instead of dragging a brick with your mouse in order to find the perfect custom set fee?

Currently it's very hard to nearly impossible to set the fee for example at precise 0.9% or 1.10% or something in that range.

Care to explain the reason behind this? Maybe you should add this to the FAQ?

You may use API request to set exact custom fee

Fixed. Please refresh main page to use addresses started with 3xxxx...

Hello, im new and i have a problem with the service about the domain:
http://bitmixegkuerln7q.onion

i have used the domain in the past without any problems.
But now, i transfered 2.30167106 BTC and set the time delay to 0h.

But nothing went to my forwarded BTC.

I have send on 2 pages mails about this issue.
I maybe think its scam, because the BTC Address are the same, a friend tested it.

in hope to resolve the problem in any ways :(

It probably is a scam, considering that is not the official bitmixer onion address.
scam: bitmixegkuerln7q
real: bitmixer2whesjgj

We operate only from https://bitmixer.io and TOR mirror http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion
All other sites like bitmixer.eu, bitmixer.co, bitmixegkuerln7q.onion are fake!

sometimes mix my BTC with your good service. i like it)))

coins not received, respond to my PM. I already sent a support request and still have not heard back.

Please check your e-mail. I see the support ticket was updated.

Hello,

its taking for more than 18 Hours to confirm my Transaction to the generated Bitmixer Wallet, since the generated Wallet is only valid 12 Hours, what happens now???

I never recieved any mixed coins on my foward adress.

We can restore expired order if you saved the Letter of Guarantee. The incoming address will be under our control several days.

We have temporary increased timeframe to 36 hours.

I have transferred 9.xxx bitcoin to you. I was supposed to receive the coins 4 hours ago, but until now I didn't get anything.

I also opened a ticket on your website but no reply yet. Please check when I can get the coins.

The ticket updated, check your e-mail.

Thanks for quick reply.

About stuck transactions
We don't delete order if we received unconfirmed transaction. So don't worry, all stuck transaction are processed as soon as we receive required number of confirmations. Even after 3 days.

Hi,
It's been 10 hours and my 7 coins have never came, I am sending you a PM With Guarantee letter please check and respond, what is happening?

No one is responding to my Ticket in support, Last reply I got was this

"Your request (1181) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email.
----------------------------------------------

BitMixer Support Agent, Jul 14, 19:58

Hello,

I have verified your letter and will look into the issue and get it resolved asap.

Best,

Josh"


I am not sure why it's taking that long? Can you reply atleast???

Hi I send my btc to ir service 12 hours año and Still my money is not in my wallet, help please?? My btc are Still in bitmixer.io wallet as you can see

-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that BITMIXER.IO has generated the address 16VtpJWuQKQnXgSygjVADzf61NXCWNdqSn in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses:

100% to 13ZjDytr2SJrdVZ1gV1d3UbwyHY1AiRACs

This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from July 14, 2015, 4:02 to July 14, 2015, 16:02 GMT with minimum amount of 0.01 BTC. Our fee is 0.9018% + 0.0005 BTC for every forward address.
This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza. Stay protected and thank you for your services.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
Gz8ymvP4IAoZVjd6DdyhvS5rTx6S/PHF58UU9Dl+YaEoDnpFxkhexzWvRZFdqrwQeXmD2bsVbxpyyEkEN29kADA=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----

My coins Have landed safely, But Still No Reply From Support. Issues is resolved though. ;D

Just got a ticket response saying the issue was resolved and they are giving me an extra 20% to compensate for the issue

1 day ago and i dont recieve my bitcoins,and the contact form in bitmixer.io does not works,what is hapenning, how many days or i Will scam?  Check the bitmixer wallet my btc are Still there.

If you give me your email and the exact message I can send a message to them about it

All ok good service!

I chose bitmixer.io when the problems with bitcoinfog started. This service was good - low %, several parameters to choose.
That was so until this morning. I added the forward address, set time delay, and tried to download letter of guarantee - result - empty window with words - Address not found. I've tried several times with .io site and .onion mirror. Always same result. May be that was kind of a glitch and i sent tester - 1btc  ...  poor bitcoin got lost in a black hole :(

support says "Sadly without the letter of guarantee I can not help. You should always download the letter first before sending any funds. "
So  +225$ to your piggy bank guys! Now I move to send-shared! Have a good day!

You were not on the real bitmixer.

Im assuming this is a malicious exit node changing the redirect from the homepage to a malicious .onion link instead of the real address. This is not the only thing they could change. Never trust clearnet sites when using tor. Even to redirect to a .onion url

I visited bitmixer.io and clicked the pop up link to redirect me to the onion url. But did not end up at the real bitmixer onion url

Real .onion address:
bitmixer2whesjgj.onion

Fake .onion address:
bitmix6zfuz7zmnv.onion

Everything appeared legitimate until you go to download the letter of guarantee. At which point you are presented with the following error

"Address not found."

I double checked the url to notice it wasnt correct

http://s23.postimg.org/g9qpfjti3/blah.png

http://s29.postimg.org/t4f18hcnb/blah2.png

They did not get any of my precious coins thankfully

Article about Bitmixer:

http://themerkle.com/news/interview-with-the-owner-of-bitmixer-io-a-high-volume-bitcoin-mixer/

themerkle

That is a great article on bitmixer.io.  I can certainly confirm my own positive experiences with bitmixer.

They mixed some 65,000 BTC last month.  Wow..., that works out to a nice profit!  But, I am willing to pay my way because of their service, which I liked enough to sign up for their signature campaign.  Someone who comes up with a nice service ought to make whatever money his service is worth to customers, and it looks like bitmixer.io hit the "Sweet Spot": makes big money providing a great service that is executed well.

They seem to be a reliable site but the only thing I would add that they don´t appear to be using is a certificate like all the major exchanges do. It gives an extra layer of security above ssl, especialy when you are transmitting signatures (letters of guarantee)

Warning! Just another fishing site - bitmixer.is
Please note we operate strongly from https://bitmixer.io and TOR version http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion

You mean phishing? Fishing sounds funny though. :D

sure, phishing

I just want to say I feel at least scammed by BITMIXER.IO

Why?

The site tells you to download the Letter of Guarantee and confirm it before sending any coins to mix.

When I anciently didn't the site did NOT send the coins.

Any times i did download it does.

So this might not be a scam yet WHY DOES IT NOT SEND THE COINS IF YOU DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE LETTER?

I mean it could just send the coins even if you do not download the letter but it does not. Really shifty practice. This is in the code!

I do not trust this site. FIX THAT OR YOU ARE AND WILL BE IN THE REALM OF SHIFTY DN GARBAGE!

The site is designed to steel from people who ware dumb-asses like me who sometimes don't pay attention.

I lost a big amount of money.

Support could not help.

So all I say to you "JOSH": Karma Will Strike You!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yklrd/accidentally_sent_btc_to_bitmixer_donation/

How about paying the 30 BTC back Josh ? this is not going away, you will be forever known as a scammer if you don't resolve this ASAP.

All this could be avoided if anonymity were top priority within bitcoin development, so that we could have an implementation inside the main client...

I guess we'll have to wait for some sidechain miracle (if it arrives)...

Meanwhile JoinMarket is still too Alpha for general use...

It will have no effect on their business. They clearly has not scam anyone because it is a user's fault and by accident he send it to the donation address, they have made it very clear that anything sent to that address will be keep as a donation

There is no sign of a lack of integrity in the actual mixer operation, just one isolated incident of which someone sent coins to a donation address where the owner decided not to give it back.

This doesn't damage their reputation in their main program, but just their community-based support. Oh well.

Sorry for the delay, we've sent back all coins and compensation.

And THAT is very decent of bitmixer, and why I am in their campaign.  I messed up once, and they took care of me.

Even if posts here on this thread do not count in their campaign... 

:)

You are probably a victim of tor hacker redirect or phishing site. If you can't download and verify the Letter of Guarantee, you are on the phishing site. If you are using TOR, please do not use clearnet bitmixer address, always use only http://bitmixer2whesjgj.onion.

From his post it seems that he just does not want to download the letter, not that he can't.

We don't have any errors or uncompleted orders, so I guess he was at the wrong site. We accept many request like "I didn't receive my coins" - most of them are victim of phishing sites. That is why we suggest to download the Letter of Guarantee. That is why before mixing you have to accept term "I understand I must save and verify the Letter of Guarantee before I send coins to bitmixer.io". Nobody can forge the Letter of Guarantee. Also it is provable guarantee of our obligations.

How do you know the private key of address 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza has not leaked?  Hint:  you don't.  You obviously have to keep it online to sign letters of guarantee.  The more days it remains online, the more likely it has somehow leaked.

I can see it's not all that important to users (a thief could forge a letter of guarantee and embarass you here), but it just gives the impression of sloppiness.

You would probably want to keep the current bitmixer API and webpages unchanged, but add a link to a new version which fixes this and maybe other problems.

You should generate a new 1BitmixerNew... address on an offline machine, certify it as unexpiring with the old key, use it to sign a large quantity of keys (each document specifying the date(s) the key is valid), and immediately destroy the 1BitmixerNew... private key.  The signed keys should be placed on some physical medium and stored in a safe deposit box.

Then you bring out say a week's worth of keys at a time, and import the next key to the server as needed.

The revised letter of guarantee includes the certificate giving the 1BitmixerNew... key signed by the 1BitmixerEiyyp... key, the currently valid guarantee signing key signed by the 1BitmixerNew... key, and the guarantee signed by the guarantee signing key.

And maybe you could consider using gpg keys instead or in addition?  This stuff is fairly well automated in gpg.
You could just run the letter of guarantee through gpg, appending a signature made with the currently valid signing key.  Also, you could provide a gpg keyring text document giving say a year's worth of document signing keys and the keysigning gpg key.  This document could be signed by the 1BitmixerEiyyp... and the 1BitmixerNew... bitcoin keys.

We know. The leaking of private key of 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza means leaking of all our private keys (currently 2,000 BTC in reserve). Moreover thief will be able to sign tons of Letters of Guarantee to claim huge sum. That is why our servers are very very secured. Don't worry, we'll change signing address in case of compromising.

gpg? most of our users can't even verify Letter of Guarantee using bitcoin client. gpg is still too complicated for most of people.

Avoid unnecessary trust.  You don't need to derive other private keys from the ...Eiyyp... key, making all of your private keys vulnerable to a single leak.  If I were you, I'd make fixing that a top priority.

I found it was not easy to find out how to verify signatures using a bitcoin wallet.  The documentation is much less widespread.  And it involves three separate copy and paste steps.

Regarding gpg, using tails (the amnesic incognito live system, tails.boum.org), booted from USB stick with encrypted persistent storage (so you import keys once), checking a gpg signature is done by copying the document to clipboard, clicking on the icon in the upper right that looks like a good old brown masonite and steel clipboard and selecting "Decrypt/Verify clipboard".  (When the clipboard contains a signed or encrypted document, the clipboard icon has a red hexagon in the center).  A dialog comes up with results.  It gives the key ID that is needed (or was used) to verify the document.

If the key is missing, select "manage keys" from that clipboard icon menu.  A window comes up titled Passwords and Keys.  Select "Find remote keys" from the "Remote" menu, and paste the key ID into the dialog. Or, if the keys are available on the https website, you can download them from there and select Import from the File menu of the Passwords and Keys window.

For one thing, the electrum wallet software sends all of the addresses in a wallet to the same server.  Some servers try or claim to not keep logs.  Others don't even say.  Tails comes with electrum.  :-(  So if your threat model calls for disconnection of output addresses, you better be careful where you get balance information.

And if you put the input and output bitmixer addresses into the same wallet (or even separate wallet files), your friendly electrum server, or block explorer, can associate the input and output addresses.

I'd say the only safe way to follow balances of addresses you want to keep completely isolated from one another is to run your own full bitcoin node and keep your watching wallet there.  But that's not very easy to do while using tails.

A second way that output addresses can be associated is by searching for other transactions where the amount of satoshis have common factors.  This happens because bitmixer first subtracts the random fee, and only afterward divides the outputs, and because the division coefficients have to be multiples of 0.01 (1%).

So I sent in 1**,***,*** satoshis, with fee 0.****% + 0.0005 BTC / output * 8 outputs, and  received  1**,***,***.  So the fee totaled 1,***,***, or 1,***,***+400,000, as it should have.  Each output of x% was exactly (input - fee) * x% - 50,000.

Two outputs were specified as 10%, and both received exactly 12,***,*** satoshis.  I seriously doubt there were many other transactions that day with that exact amount.  Another pair were 11%, and both received exactly 14,***,***.

When multiple output addresses are given, the 50,000 satoshi per address fee should be randomly divided among them, instead of deducting exactly 50,000 from each total.

The transactions did not all arrive at the same number of minutes after the hour, but they all arrived in the same half hour (5 minutes after the hour to 38 after, and six of them arrived between 11 after and 23 after).

We don't use electrum :) We use custom (full node) software making all efforts to isolate every transaction. You usually receive a small part from a big source or exact sum from several inputs, or you may receive two transactions, or... several another ways. Anyway there are no links to you original coins. We are improving mixing algorithm everytime.
We can't use random fee for several outputs just because some users need very exact sum for every output (pay bills, automated services using our API etc). I think a custom fee 0.5%-3.5% and time delay is enough to make transaction untraceable.

When you transfer coins to bitmixer there are no way to detect that you did it. Attacker don't know that you transferred coins to our server and received coins from another sources. Unlike other services.
For example when you transfer coins to bitcoinfog, after 1-2 days you may find your transaction here: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/BitcoinFog and then trace another sources up to all their reserve from begin.

Time delay as you pointed out is not fixed, you may receive coins during one full hour after.

Thanks for the reply. 

Adequate security is defined in terms of your threat model.  I'm talking about users who expect that significant compute power (thousands of dollars worth) will be applied to the blockchain in order to follow their transactions.  A few simple optional adjustments to your service could increase the cost of following the transactions significantly, or even make it actually impossible (given absence of other security mistakes by the user).

I mentioned electrum because your customers might use it or a block explorer to watch the address they sent coin to, and also at the same time all of their receiving addresses.  If the threat model assumes those servers might be compromised, then the action of watching all addresses at once links the addresses.  Thus, customers should be warned that their coin could be followed by sufficiently powerful adversaries unless they run their own full bitcoin node to watch the addresses.

One point is pretty unacceptable:  if you specify the same percentage for two outputs, then both outputs are exactly the same.  There aren't enough transactions per day on the blockchain to hide this.  Also, once the duplicate amounts are noticed, the other output transactions will be identifiable because there is no randomness applied after the fee is deducted, and because there are no fractional percents allowed.

But using random assignments of the per output fee is unnecessary.  All you need is to let the users specify parts per ten thousand instead of parts per hundred.  (That is, allow two decimals in the percentage:  x.yz%)

And while you are at it, you should allow one decimal in the hour, which is to say, delays are specified in units of six minutes instead of sixty minutes.  And delays up to 48 hours.

The default percentages and delays should be assigned randomly.  You should have text boxes to enter exact percentages or delays, and a checkbox to lock the value.

To make it easier to make specific payment amounts, you could provide a text box for the expected input total, and display output amounts beside the percentage.

Finally, you should support browers with disabled javascript.  There have been zero-day vulnerabilities in javascript.  This page would just have text boxes to type in the desired percents and delays, and a "proceed" button that displays a confirmation page, with any errors pointed out.

Thanks for the advice.
We are thinking about fractional percentage. Long time delays allowed if you use api. You may use it right in your browser. It is also javascript-free method. Example:

[Don't use bitmixer.io clearnet address with TOR]

Thank you for considering it, and for the advice about using the API for long delays.  BTW if you arrive on your site with javascript disabled, it's not obvious how to proceed.

(im not saying that its bitmixers fault neither i call a scam! not saving the letter is my fault obviously but the money is stored and i hope i can get it)


Hello Community,
i registred cause im in the seek of help since im having a problem with bitmixer.io and i saw that they are active on this board.
id be more than thankfull to receive some support here! I will even pay for it.


My english is not the best so please excuse for mistakes, i try to explain the situation as good as possible.
I mix my coins alot on bitmixer.io and never had any problems until yesterday.


So Ysterday i sent 2 Payments threw their onion site, one with about 1600$ and one with 500$ +- and added 3 forward adresses.
Its 14+ hours now and i still didnt receive any BTC on my wallets.
The wallets i payed too also show NO OUTGOING PAYMENTS and they are stored payments from 1 month ago or so.

MY PC TURNED OFF FOR WHATEVER REASON; AND IT DIDNT SAVE MY TXT WITH THE LETTERS OF GUARANTEE!
I can however verify that im the owner of the wallet the coins are coming from, and everybody can also see that the coins are stored at the wallet.

Hashs:
https://blockchain.info/address/1NVMDXDHNjmNSGznYucgariU8ARoTC2dfM
https://blockchain.info/address/15eAcj7JMgS3be2txTHXBsW4RLsdGhLDpL

i dont know what to do, support isnt answering and im really in need the money! cant be true that 2,1k or even a bit more are lost in space...
since it didnt go anywhere there should be a chance for me to receive them right?

I will even pay a huge fee if someone can help me with that!
please respond asap id be really really thankfull!

(im not a victing of a phishing site, the money is lying on the wallet and i always doublecheck domains, i just got the directlink saved for your onion site anyways)

What the onion address you have used? You are probably a victim of a phishing site. We do not use old addresses, we generate the new address for every new mix. So it couldn't be our service.

Please never send coins if you can't download and verify the Letter of Guarantee!

bitmixer2whesjgj.onion

Yes im wondering too, the coins are lying on the wallets ! i doubt any fishing site would store the coins on the generated wallets, some coins are even there for a month.

please dont tell me my money is lost now ill go nuts :( i saved so long for it

i always use DIRECTLINKS and i never had any problems ever with your service!

I'm sorry, it is not our wallets you've sent coins too. May be you've mistaken while copy/pasting, may be you have malware replacing wallets or websites. But I'm sure its not our wallet, our server never generated those addresses.

This service works like a charm.

It is an amazing system and all the logic behind it. Congrats to everyone who is involved with it.

 ;D

Thank you for appreciating our service. We are trying to improve mixing algorithms every time.

Don't know exactly, about 500 orders per day.

We are not interested in new investors now, sorry. We have over 2,000 btc in reserve. It is enough even for high volume clients.

Which is too bad, actually.

Investing on the terms at Bitmixer's website looks like it would be one of the very few legitimate ways to make money for passive BTC investors.

Agree with above comments re excellent mixing service, highly recommended.

You write that on you site "Please send your bitcoins (min 0.01, max 2007.286 BTC) to..."

How is it possible to "hide" transaction with 2000BTC amount? How are you going to do that is someone will want to use your service with big amount?

We don't "hide" transactions. We pay you from our reserve (to several different addresses with a time delay if you set), so there are no relations with your old and new coins. When attacker tracks your coins, he just see that you transferred coins to address, which then works like a webwallet. But he can't imagine that you have already received another not linked with you coins.

This is kind of untrackable transaction, I understood that and used "hide" word to describe, sorry for confuse :)

You guarantee that no one can track my transactions is I mix 0.01-2000 BTC, right?

There are no 100% guarantee. We just guarantee that you'll receive another not linked with you coins.
But if you use custom fee, time delay and several output addresses - there are many many chances to be untraceable. Usually attacker doesn't know that you use our service (unlike others).

Please don't forget to download and verify Letter of Guarantee BEFORE send us coins. Don't use TOR with our clearnet address.

So, you get my coins to newly generated address #1 and send other coins to me from other address #2 (this address alresdy has coins). Latter some guy sent his coins to your newly generated address #3 and you sent him my old coins from address #1. Is that correct or you have more complicated method?

Broadly speaking it is correct. But not so simply. We do all our best to give quality mixed coins to our clients. For example small volume users usually receive a part from a big source, high volume clients receive transfers from several small "quality" sources (was used several times before) etc. With a big reserve we can find suitable sources almost for all transactions.

Clear :) By the way why your customers have to pay 0.0005BTC for each forward address? I used your service and all fees was mush less then 0.0005 (2 times less?).

P.S. Don't be offended it is curiosity about service I interested in.

Just a fee  ;) It covers other spendings, internal transactions, sometimes we send several transactions for one client etc.

A question about the bitmixer code. If you use the bitmixer code as a way to not get your own coins back in future transactions, does that not mean that you save logs for the bitmixer code? And is that not a way to track coins? (if now a goverment agency forces you to hand those logs over)

1. Bitmixer code is used just for mark coins you send us, until they went out from our reserve. The code doesn't contain  information about your orders or outgoing transactions we made on your behalf.
2. It is very very hard to find out, that you sent coins to bitmixer. You send coins to the new address, but who knows that this address is under bitmixer's control? Our transactions seems like a common web-wallet. Unlike other services, our addresses are not discoverable by walletexplorer.com or similar services.

it is like using colors for mark every reserve item. For example, we mark your coins as 'yellow' in our database. Next time when you use our service, we send you coins from range of others colors, like 'brown', 'red', 'white'... but not from 'yellow' to be sure that you do not receive part of your previous coins.

Ok, but does that not mean that tracing is a hell of a lot easier? I mean if you know that person x has the color yellow, then you can just search after yellow and will find all the bitcoins he has sent in? Or is it something that i have misunderstood maybe?

What will happen if your local authority comes up to you and tells you to tell you what coins the outputs were of a certain input? Would you comply or pull an "Apple"?


No one can see what a coin is marked as besides bitmixer. No need to worry. In fact, the "marking of coin's" was simply an analogy.

I understood it was an analogy. But the question was more if somebody else then bitmixer get an hold of that information, for example any authority with a warrant.

We completely delete all order's information after 24 hours from our database (that is why you have to save the Letter of Guarantee).

A few minutes ago I tried to send 0.20 BTC (39f4e42176d7d3438222f9438c16371ce7e468dc9b6abcfb8c034bf3659c8c92)
through the mixer and used bitmixr.io instead of bitmixer.io.
Now, I suffer financial loss because bitmixr.io appearently is a fraud. Not only will I report this incident to the national fraud reporting centre but I will also avoid using this service in the future. It is just too easy to mistake the con for the real site.

Mistakes a in using Bitcoin happen more than they should.  Once you send it, it's gone!  That is so with every transaction.

EXTREME CARE should be used, and EVERYONE should follow all directions exactly in all BTC transactions.  

Download the Letter of Guarantee from bitmixer.io (http://bitmixer.io), examine it and verify it.  

Follow instructions..., and you should be fine.

but how is it then possible to use the same bitmixerCODE if you delete all data?

We delete information about your order, like  your destination addresses, custom, fees, amount you received, etc. The bitcode is used to mark your coins (and remains after next transactions) in our reserve. Until all your coins went out from our pool. Bitcode doesn't content any useful information, it is only a range of letters. Next time you use our service you are protected from receiving your previous coins, only because they are marked by bitcode.

First of all, I would like to thank Bitmixer.IO for providing us with such a reliable service for bitcoin privacy. I have successfully transferred over $30,000 in 20 separate transactions and all of them have gone through. Each time I save and verify the "Letter of Guarantee" as well as double check my addresses as well as the bitmixer.io web address to make sure I am not on a phishing site.

I have a question for Bitmixer.IO in the below paragraph, but here's the background for my question. I know that some notable bitcoin exchanges are monitoring my transactions and do blockchain analysis to make sure their funds are not being used for anything against their TOS. I have monitored my transactions from the bitcoin exchange and Bitmixer.IO seems to take my funds then break them down into smaller chunks first to simulate payments. Then the main chunk of my funds are eventually combined with an address that contains a very large amount of bitcoins. This address must be the combination of funds from new inputs from different customers. Then that address is slowly giving out funds to other addresses.

So my question is, since the most popular USA bitcoin exchange monitors customer transactions, what if my funds sent from my exchange ends up in one of these addresses which combine a lot of customer transferred funds? Let's say one of the customer transactions was linked with a Darknet marketplace such as AlphaBay. Then wouldn't my funds also be linked with AlphaBay? If so, then my account would be closed which is what I'm trying to avoid at all costs.

It is difficult to prove that the address where you transferred funds is your. More difficult to prove that second address is belong to you. Third and subsequents - impossible. Unlike darknet markets or another mixers, our generated addresses are not traceable. Coinbase may trace where you send coins to only from your coinbase account, but not all next movements, because it is silly. Anyway we operate like a web-wallet, or like a thousands independent wallets. btw you are wrong about our mixing algorithm.

first time i've ever forgotten to save the letter of guarantee, and 1 of 2 payment didn't come through. Is there any wya to contact you?

I send a transaction 24 hours ago and a transaction from mixer to forward address still remains at 0 confirmations. have I been scammed? I have letter of guarantee which was verified as bitmixer. help? lot of money to me.

bitmixer will not help you if you have any issues. forget it

I have saw another crypto mixing services who show their proof of bitcoin to another users bitcointalk, do you can do same? And it will make your services more trusted by costumers.

What proof do you mean? We generate Letter of Guarantee signed by our account 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza for every mix. It is a digitally signed proof of our obligations. In case of cheating anyone may show this Letter to public. We have outstanding reputation since Jan 2014, currently we process over 80,000 btc monthly. I think no additional proofs needed.

Oh, I understand now. Do you mean the mixer who copypasted our service including FAQs and other text from our website? Well, if service starts from a theft of intellectual property, people probably need some kind of proofs ;). As I see they proved it's 'cold' storage. It is ridiculous and stupid. We don't have cold storage, we don't collect all bitcoins at one wallet. Our current 2,500 btc are distributed to thousands independent wallets. During next 24 hours all those coins will be transferred independently to thousands of our clients. If we public the list of wallets, all our clients for the next 24 hours could be potentially tracked (as well as clients who sent us those coins, and who already received part of this pool).

btw, if you don't trust us, you don't need to send us 2500 btc ot once, you may start with a smaller sum and mix step by step.

Our support team works 24x7. The typical time of response to the new ticket is 5-20 min.

Bollocks, you selectively scam. I will continue to use your service but it's clear that you have some method to detect whether the user saves the letter of guarantee, and scam some of those who do not.

I have put tens of thousands through your service and will do so but on the one occasion I forgot to save the letter I was scammed. Not a coincidence.

Its clever, I give you that.

Oh, really? Do you think we can risk our reputation? Nope, thousands clients trust us. Tell me your ticket number, I'll see your issue.
Btw, we don't have unprocessed orders. You probably sent coins to the old (deleted) address or used a phishing site. For the moment there are many scams copied our website, like bitmixr.io or btmixer.io. Be careful.

I am using BITMIXER for quite some time now and while I know it's not smart, I have never saved the letter of guarantee when mixing coins.

And all times I used BITMIXER to mix my coins nothing happened as all clean coins came through without any problems.

Please ALWAYS save (and verify) Letter of Guarantee before send us coins! If something goes wrong, we can't help you without a Letter of Guarantee. The support team doesn't have access to mixing transactions, the database is encrypted, moreover we delete all order's info after 24 hours. We keep the private key of the generated address for several days, so if you sent coins after 24 hour we still can process your order ONLY if you have the Letter of Guarantee.

Nope, was correct site, was correct address and 1 of the 2 payments came through. Your support simply claims they can't help so it's worthless.

Clever selective scamming.

It's been several weeks since, so you won't be able to help if you do truly delete all data.

btw You guys have a nice little get out every time anyone claims an issue, "oh you must have been on the wrong site" or used a phishing site, yada yada yada.

I'll continue using your service, if I was running an anonymous bitcoin mixer I'd probably be sneaky enough to selective scam a small minority as well ( after who will ever believe them if you only do it to 1% of people) but I'll be sure to always save the letter in future.

There's no way a phishing site sent me 1/2 the payment, I was on the correct site.

I guess it was your error, late payment or wrong site. Anyway please always save the Letter of Guarantee (just to check further who was wrongful). And please PM me your ticket number, I'll see what the issue.

I will surely do so from now on. Better safe than sorry.

You order has been completed at time. Please use https://blockchain.info to check your destination address.

hello bitmixer , why i got this pop up when i want to confirm and accept the terms?
i can't see the "accept" button by the way

that could probably an issue with your browser, i am using Google Chrome and the pop up shows right in the center of my screen so i don't have any problem on checking the boxes and clicking the accept button

Bitmixer, check your inbox sir.

Be careful when you google for bitmixer. There's a scam page advertising with google adsense since 20 nov 2016.
The correct domain is bitmixer.IO not bitmixer .IN.

The first result is google ads result:

https://i.imgur.com/wQZWN5y.png

If possible report to google ads.

Pls how much does it cost to use coin mixer,for example if you deposit 25 dollars worth of bitcoin how much do you charge for your service

The default fee for Bitmixer are 0.5% service fee + 0.0005 BTC for each forward address you put into your order.
The service fee are adjustable by you with the minimum of 0.5% and 3.5% as the maximum.

Let's say you have deposited 25 dollars worth of bitcoin which is 0.033 as the time of this post.
With the minimum service fee of 0.5% and one forward address, Bitmixer will take around 0.000665 BTC as a fee :)

Don't forget to download the Letter of Guarantee after creating an order at Bitmixer ;)

Any plans on lowering the fees?

I wanted to mix some of my coin some few weeks from know,ivhave been searching for a reliable mixer,pls kindly explain in details how to deposits the coin in your site and to get the certificate of guarantee because I saw your site but I could not understand how it is done,is their no PGE to sign up into the site and have an account thanks

Yes you can trust bitmixer.io for mixing.

Step 1: Click on add forward address (this should be your bitcoin address where you like to receive mixed bitcoin).

Step 2: set service fee you can set fee as low as 0.50% and than click on mix my coins than one message pops up, mark both message and click accept.

Step 3: Now just click on Download Letter of Guarantee message on top and save it safely than send bitcoin to bitcoin address that is shown in the page and you can get mixed bitcoin after your deposit get network confirmation.

Hope this have helped you.

Bitcoin newbie here. Providing some feedback plus I have a question.

Just writing to say I  used bitmixer.io for the first time today. All 3 of my transactions went through, although the last one gave me a bit of a heart attack as it took 9 hours to clear. However, the problem was on my sending end, not at bitmixer's end. (Apparently I didn't set fees high enough and for some reason the transfer was more bytes than normal so low priority I guess.) Once the transaction to bitmixer is confirmed, bitmixer sends BTC back within minutes. If you send more than you said you would, you get the full amount, less fees of course.

I saved the letters of guarantee each time after reading through this thread, checked the addresses and verified all the signatures. All good.

Please could someone explain to me how increasing the number of forwarding addresses works? If I add two addresses does that mean that the transaction is split into two and sent to both of my addresses simultaneously or what?

many thanks

If you set more than one forward address your mixed coin will be split and will be send into your forward addresses with a percentage of distribution ( can be set by the user )

For example :
You have send $100 into Bitmixer generated address with two forward addresses and 50-50 distribution.
This mean that Bitmixer system will mix and send $50 into your first forward address and $50 for the second one.

Another example, If you have set 40-60 distribution, then Bitmixer will send $40 and $60 into your first and second forward addresses.

Bitmixer will process your order once the transaction has one confirmation, and yes both will be send simultaneously (Unless you have set a certain time delay on your order)

Thanks teddy!  :)

decided to use this site because I saw it on a top5 "BTC services" blog. Without probably thinking enough I put through a double digit number of coins

then I googled and saw all of the Scam headings etc, started getting worried that I had been scammed, or that the site was fake (think there is a btcmixer that is fake)



first transaction came through bang on time, waiting on more will update when they do too.


Was worrying to see all the negative links, stories etc. So even tho I am a complete newbie on this site, just wanted to write and say it worked for me.

Just used this mixer for the first time in a while. I really liked this service but little note for bitmixer.io , I think you should work on your website design and make it a bit more modern. I know you'r probably not even thinking about it but It would enchase user experience a bit

Anyone that is considering to use the services of bitmixer should be aware that they are employing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1657397.0) the services of an extortionist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0) to run their signature campaign.

If they are willing to employ an extortionist to run their signature campaign, then who knows what kind of people they are willing to run for other parts of their business, and who knows what this kind of person might do with sensitive information about your mixing transactions.

Very classic, bravo. are you telling me that they are giving the signature manager access to non existent information which is the mixing information of clients? or you just ought to destroy their reputation and business?
Did the manager physically harm anyone involved in Bitmixer.io signature campaign?
Are you aware of the fact that everything is handled automatically and manager just supervises the contents of posts submitted by forum members and doesn't have any access to anything happening between users and the service? they never keep any record of transactions anyways for anyone to have access.

Please be logical, don't let anger and revenge cloud your judgment, have the courtesy and act like an adult.

Convenient service! Repeatedly I used it.

Anyone know where I can get support??

their email doesnt repsond - support@bitmixer.zendesk.com

Keep trying.  You might want to try PM'ing them from this forum as well.  Be polite and explain the problem as best you can.

The only issue (years ago) I ever had was resolved just fine, after some give-and-take with them.

[I am not associated with them, they have given me great service though]

That is bad that they are inactive at their support center. They have to hire a separate person for to deal at their support center so that people feel satisfied with their service. The important tool for a business to make satisfied is to make a good and active support for the customers.

I made this account for the sole purpose of giving this review.

I am a longtime user of this service and have never had a issue of any sort. My transactions range from 500$-20k$ at a time. My coins have always moved very quickly and without issue.

I recently made a transaction (10,000$+) and find that my btc has made it to bitmixer but from bitmixer to my forwarding address the transaction isn't confirming.

This is the first time I have had a need to use there support. After  submitting a ticket, I received what appears to be a automated email back giving me a number and that they will look into it.

I will post here and inform everyone of my experience as it happens. 

Here, try ViaBTC's acceleration service:

https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

When anyone (you or anyone else) sends BTC with a fee of BTC0.0001 or greater, ViaBTC's service will help move things along.  After using several times, only once has a trx taken more than 2 hours (after) to confirm for me.  I have used it with bitmixer payments to me.

Hint: use the ViaBTC service right after the top of the hour (say: 9:01 or so).

YMMV

Also, if bitmixer got back to you, you will probably get your problem resolved.  Keep patiently working with them.  That's what I did when I had my issue (years ago).

Thank you for your advice. I tried the accelerator, but it said its past its limit. I will try again later.


As a update I haven't received a response yet from bitmixer but it has not been very long either.

Current thought: If all of this is caused by a simple low fee then please bitmixer increase your fee or give a option for the customer to pay a small added fee so that transaction's process faster.

UPDATE

Response time from support ticket being opened until live response, 3 hours. Very pleased with this.


Below is a copy and past of response

Bitmixer Support Agent 2,

Hi,
Unfortunately there's nothing I can do regarding confirmation as it was done by
Blockchain Network.

Please be patient and wait for your transaction to receive at least one confirmation
from Blockchain.

Best Regards,
Bitmixer Support


So it appears this issue may indeed be fee related. Currently I am at 6 hours with no confirmation.

I was able to get my transaction into the accelerator (Thanks again ORBTC)(Right at the top of the hour;)

Current thoughts: Depending on time transaction takes to clear, unacceptable. My understanding of btc is not very deep but, higher fee faster transaction.  Again I love the time delay feature on your site but please consider, increasing your outgoing fee or providing a option for customer to pay for a larger trans fee.

Lastly how can I check what fee bitmixer has provided for this transaction? I would like to be able to check if it is just the network being slow or if the fee was inadequate.
   

...

blockchain.info (http://blockchain.info) will show you any transaction's fees.  Just enter the trx number in the little "Search" box at their home page.

*  *  *

I have NO IDEA if this would work (I have not tried, nor of course asked them), but maybe if you choose a slightly higher fee to pay them (instead of, say 0.6% try 0.85%, whatever), that might or might not help.

Still your idea is good, pay a bit more to get a speedier confirmation time.  PM them.  PM me, and I'll say I like the idea too.  I like the idea of faster confirmations when using BTC, and almost always pay for a quicker confirmation (which is not exactly this case, but still).

UPDATE

My coins processed sometime during the night but they did arrive at their destination.


Final thoughts.

-Customer service was Very responsive. They didn't really tell me what I wanted to hear but I did feel better knowing that they are acknowledging that they do have my btc and that I just need to wait longer.

-I given the things talked about here I hope bitmixer will explain:
           What transaction fee they apply
           If the fee the user sets has anything to do with with the trans fee
           If user fee does not, will enable a "priority fee button"


I did use the accelerator and my transaction to 6+ hours (not sure when confirms started coming in, I was asleep. It makes me wonder how long it would have taken had I not used the accelerator.

Just to be clear I understand that even with a kings bounty for a transaction fee their is still no guarantee when the transaction will be processed but I do know it increases the odds, given that there  are no ongoing problems within the network.

I will continue to use the service but I hope bitmixer will hear at least two of its old customer's and will continue to expand there services features or at the very least explain the fee's and the role they play.  

I guess you should consider that the there are also  lot of stocked transactions on the network that's why you have to wait for more longer (one day at least) see current status on the network https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions so you can know.

You are 100% right, however when I am completing multiple transactions in the same day, at the same time, going to different places and I am only have a issue with with one transaction........process of elimination tells me where the problem is.

Still a GREAT service, my gripe is just about making it a little better.

i was trying to mix some coins for the fun of it but i noticed something odd via a google search that BITMIXER.IO came in second from the suspicious site ::)

https://i.imgur.com/WJxWnBh.png

i noticed there is a similar site http://bitmixir.io with an "i" and does not support ssl and functions as good as the main site...is this a sister site of BITMIXER.IO ???

I also found that in the google search and that is in the first line because they are advertising with google. Google have to look into that what are they advertising and after that they have to take the action.

I think they are another company for bitcoin mixer and they have used the name same as bitmixer so that to get the visitors to their site and with that they want to attract even the clients of bitmixer by keeping the same name.

If you open both the sites/links you will find that they have everything copied from bitmixer and it looks like they are mirror of bitmixer even the name on the browser is also copied from bitmixer and the only change of the name is their url. They are scammers. People have to stay away from that mirror site.

Yes I also noticed that. The site is exact photocopy of the original Bitmixer.io . The developers of bitmixer have to announce that on their site with their clients to remain them safe and they need to report that site to google.

this is taking scamming to a whole new level which also poorly done if this is another company because the are literally sharing all bitmixer(s) information including the official contact details
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________


Basically not everything..i have have discovered that they have not copied the signature handle https://bitmixer.io/signature.html of which theirs[http://bitmixir.io/signature.html] points to an Object not found!

https://i.imgur.com/jZkdmp9.png

Yes they will not copy that feature as they are not here to pay any person but they only have copied the mixing system so that when a person come to mix their bitcoin then they will escape away with the money of that person and then people will think that it is the real bitmixer which steal their money.

Not an original thing.  There are many different Bitmixer copying scam sites using Google advertising or search engine optimization to appear legitimate - btcmixer is one of them.

Obviously they're going to exist for any Bitcoin related thing which has a high volume of Bitcoin passing through it each day.  Bitmixer is just one of them.

To be honest, if you put more than 1 Bitcoin or so into a site without checking the URL carefully, the chances are that you're an idiot.

We should double check the domain name first before depositing some money on them since their are some idiots making some similar name site just to fool and confuse those site users. And we must be aware since this copying event happens all the time.

I can't call those victim as idiot since im sure some of them are not aware of this kind of scheme or simply they are in rush and doesn't bother to look at the URL.

hi there ^_^

another script about bitmixer.io..
this fantastic mixer have API Rest https://bitmixer.io/api.html

and i write a mixer based on bitmixer.io api (for fun)

https://github.com/blackout314/bitmixer_mixer

anyone can make the personal mixer ^_^ based on bitmixer ... amazing!

the code is open and free for all

PAY ATTENTION AT LICENSE - is GPL 3 Affero

Why would anyone use your mixer? what does it even mean you made a mixer? personal mixer makes no sense, anyone trying to mix should only click on a signature to go to the main BitMixer.io site and no where else. couldn't you spend your time on something more useful?

I think he have created that mixer source code for the developers to create their own mixer site. Like the site of bitmixer if anyone want to start their mixing business.

Please explain about your below sentence what does it mean!

is an experiment, you understand experiment?
i post here for people want study or experiment too.. simple

i used bitmixer.io api for :D create a "personal" mixing service.. simple

i dont steal bitmixer job, i've extend it with this code :)


read licence (AGPL3.0) https://github.com/blackout314/bitmixer_mixer/blob/master/LICENSE.md

AGPL 3.0 mean, all code forks be released in AGPL 3.0 :) simple

Dear babo thank you very much for giving me that info. I went to the link and read more about the license and found the details which is provide under that license. For more explanation I went to google and found some more articles.

The confirmation takes a long time because of the fee
What happens if I go over 24 hours?
Is the Confirm problem okay after 24 hours?

I absentmindedly sent .005 btc thru the mixer instead of .05.  Didn't even notice the error message "0.005 BTC will be returned / minimum for mixing is .01".  However, it still generated an address to the money to.  In my haste, I sent out .005 to the address given.

Well, after 6 confirmations my coins didn't end up where I sent them, nor were they refunded.  It looks like they went to the forwarding address generated by the mixer.

Is there any hope for getting my coins back?  Even though it wasn't the minimum, I would really like to see them in my wallet where they belong.  All info sent to the mod by pm.

I doubt it, the FAQ clearly states amounts sent below 0.01 BTC will be considered as donations, and you sent 0.005 BTC, which is half the minimum.

https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html


If you downloaded your Letter of Guarantee you could try contacting support at support@bitmixer.zendesk.com, but they don't have to reply or offer a refund.

I sent support a message  and apparently, they DID try to issue a refund.  However, my wallet address had changed in between the time I sent the message and when they issued the refund.  So, I guess now it's just bouncing around the bitbucket in the sky -- my fault. 

Sent support another message & I'm crossing my fingers they'll be able to do something about this.   ???

I dont believe they will be able to, generally most places expect you to read the t.o.s.

Also thank you @bitmixer for giving everyone a convenient way to stay anonymous

I almost thought you were thanking yourself

And yes they definitely did help, theres a few alternatives now though.

wow. I just send a small amount of BTC to the mixer and was surprised about that I paid almost half of it on fees...  :o

last time I used bitmixer, it cost only 0.0005 BTC per transaction and now 0.001 BTC... :o

why did the fee explode like this?

for small amounts the mixer is now pretty useless unfortunately :(

The btc network is bogged down so the fees needed went up, so the mixer has to use more to mix and well it probably partially protects against double spends.

ok, thanks for the explanation. that's sad  :'(

The clogged nature of the BTC networks is indeed slowing things down, but bitmixer.io's service still works pretty well (I have used them many times).

I would suggest waiting to send somewhat larger amounts of BTC to them for mixing, at least for now, that way the fees (bitmixer's and miner's percentages) will not be so high, and your trx will likely go faster.  If you send very small amounts (say BTC0.1 or less for example), the miner's fee will be very high (on a percentage basis).

And here I was having made my own mixer from scratch. 
/sigh
Oh well let the mix-off begin.  Just kidding.

Yes, me too it is not very clear to me though. How does this works? How can it do to us?

<playin' devil's advocate; not critical of service but seek answers>

https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html


Day 1: I mixed U$100 worth of bitcoins and received a Bitmixer code so that when I mix subsequent coins I won't received what I previously mixed back. Fine!

48 Hours Later: I mixed another U$100 worth of bitcoins and received bitcoins back which none were of what I've mixed two days prior. Fine!

36 Hours Later: I mixed another U$100 worth of bitcoins and received bitcoins back which none were of what I've mixed two transactions prior. Fine!

Question: How were the last two transactions achieved given the following? ...

http://themerkle.com/news/interview-with-the-owner-of-bitmixer-io-a-high-volume-bitcoin-mixer/


Clearly, my Bitmixer code remains on file attached to bitcoin wallet addresses I've previously used, else there would be a strong possibility of me receiving some of the coins back that I may not want attached to me, but that would be an impossibility given that ALL order data is purged from your system within 24 hours, as stated above, resulting in the 3-LAs et al. finding nothing.

Further, I'll be paying you a fee to mix coins stemming from a nefarious act with the strong possibility that I'll be receiving coins stemming from a nefarious act tens of times worst than what I'm tryin' to hide. Surely, wouldn't that bring the feds to my door a knockin' a helluva lot quicker? It'll be pretty embarrassing for me to defend myself if accused of running a underage goat brothel when in fact I ONLY pimp out adult chickens and occasionally a matured goose (soon to pimp ducks - drakes and hens).

Humor aside, I look forward to your reply, devs.

Bruno

hi guys
i've created a little greasemonkey script (or tampermonkey for chrome)
this script call signature for calculate how post you write and how much great service bitmixer.io pay you

i dont know if useful or not, i've created it for fun :)

http://imgur.com/a/a4NBB

if is useful i upload it in github/other place

Is there any update to this?

From your actions I think that you were old FBA agent (lol) :D good man, keep it up bro.
It really makes some sense because as their customers won't receive old coins back but if they delete data in every 24 hour than how? How they guarantee that us? Hope owner will come here and answer us.
Also their revenue is great, 65 000 received bitcoins in one month where min 0.5% is their profit, amazing, I did't know if they had so much and serious customers but they deserve this, for example I got information about bitcoin mixing from them.

That was a fine observation on my part, eh? Sadly, nobody else caught it but me. To date, this is how the issue has been addressed - CRICKETS!

I don't know if this is how they do this, but if the "bitmixer code" is a hash of an address, because hashes are one-way, that should be able to provide the basis for a system where they're not storing your old "from" addresses, but can check when you ask in the future that they aren't re-using anything.

Day 1: I exchange bitcoins via Addy1. Attached to Addy1 is a b-code so that I don't get my nefariously-obtained BTC back.

24 hrs later: The transaction is purged from Bitmixer's servers.

Day 3: I exchange bitcoins via Addy2. Bitmixer gives me others' BTC with no chance of me getting coins from Addy1 thanks to the b-code attached to my account.

See the paradox? It's impossible for them to do my Day 3 transaction if my Day 1 transaction was purged from their platform as promised but fully capable of performing such due to some b-code. Ergo, if there's no record of the first transaction, then it's highly probable that one could obtain coins that they didn't want to be attached to. It can't be 100% possible to have it both ways.

I searched now (again on their website and see these:)
But everything is "put in" letter of guarantee because as they say, if there wents something wrong, only letter of guarantee can help customers.
Maybe is this what they use to get rid of old coins to be returned to customer?
There is no doubt they are saving some information, for example that signes. Don't know if it sounds good but this is what I tried.

I do see the paradox, yes.  I'd love to hear their answer.  I have the intuition that hashes could form the basis of a system which partially answers the question, but I don't have it all worked out.

Day 1: Bruno sends me coins from address 1, I hash "Bruno@mail.com" and "address1" (separately) and concatenate them to get the "bitmixer code"
Day 2: ...
Day 3: Bruno sends me coins from address 1.  I need to make sure I don't send him any coins that came from previous addresses from Bruno.  I hash "Bruno@mail.com" and get the first half of a "bitmixer code".  I choose an address to send him coins from by excluding any candidates which exist in my DB of bitmixer codes where the first half of the code is hash(Bruno@mail.com).

I agree that it seems that they have to be storing something, in my sloppily constructed example a list of bitmixer codes which are a hash of a username and an address.  I suppose that as long as they don't store the actual username they can claim they don't have a record.  Anyway, I hope they answer your question which was very well put.

Having never used their service, are you telling me that they require a username stored on their platform? If that's the case, this entity is looking more and more like a front organization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_organization) each passing day. Put another way, if Bitmixer isn't a CIA et al. operation, then they prove how inept they are, for there's no way in hell a 3-LA should've missed the boat by not setting up a like venture for the purpose of gleaning whatever the fuck it is they glean.

@CIA: I don't really live a van with four flat tires on the banks of the Colorado River. I live in Josh Zerlan's basement. Come and get me.  ;D ;D ;D

Lol.

Well they say they send you a PGP signed message so I suppose they have to send it somewhere.  Maybe that's a "username".  For the record, I've never used the service either.  Not saying I wouldn't use it.  Maybe I would.

To be clear, I'm not saying that they may go rogue someday, always a slight possibility, just that according to my findings still disproven, a nefarious actor obfuscating the source of their loot may not necessarily be protected on this site. On second thought, why the fuck do I even care? Surely, such a 3-LA-backed entity would bode well for the crypto space, eh?

I think the question is more 'are they lying about deleting customer information' verses 'are they going to go rogue'. Especially when dealing with a sensitive type of business like a mixer that kind of lie should mean they cannot be trusted.

If a North Korean dissenter is using their services and they are keeping records of transactions the dissenter's life along with their contacts life's may be in danger if someone friendly to Kim jun un can access this information.

That's a very valid concern, eclipsing my example(s).

Now we know why they closed up shop: Bruno's questions.

If my contention has validity, exactly how does a 3-LA administer government or legal pressure to itself? Disclosure: To borrow the phrase, it is only my opinion.

Thanks, Burt. I'm reading the rest of their new thread now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.0 (created three days ago; I missed it).

i agree with you man, you are right
i dont understand the close, if they are security proof.. is very strange

The CEO closed the site because his pastor said so.  ::) ::) ::) My pastor told me that steel buildings can collapse due to isolated fires, fires burning important docs not found anywhere else on Earth. My other pastor owns a pizza joint that has a basement where pizzas are served, with patrons killing the pizzas. Meanwhile, Arkancide is still a thing.

Don't even get me started on the Goldman Sachs / Satoshi connection. Hint: Robert Mercer & Steve Bannon.

Is it 100% safe or not?
Looking very good but i wanna know details.
And what is the benefits of being a member of it?
Thank you dear

Just goes to show that some people don't have a fuckin clue as to which way it up. I doubt if Rana even read more than the first paragraph of the OP, let alone going to the end of the thread to learnt MORE FUCKIN DETAILS!

Piece of shit signature spamming asshole.

Why exit scam? Do you really need it?
Will I ever get my $ 350 in BTC? ..that's not a little money for me.
Does anyone know who the former operator of bitmixer.io is?

~Stanni

Do you still have the signed message you got when you received the address to send money to?

Signed message? What do you mean exactly? I have the bitmixer code.

The letter of guarantee they ask you to download when you start mixing your coins.

BitMixer has been gone for a long time (they announced they were closing, so no exit scam). You probably didn't know that and fell for a fake version of the mixer.