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Title: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: hyphymikey on January 28, 2014, 08:18:13 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BTCIndia on January 28, 2014, 08:21:42 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.
How this tragedy happened? And how many BTC you lost?  :(


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: hyphymikey on January 28, 2014, 08:31:52 AM
Over 80 physical coins stolen in October, and 15 lost margin trading in December.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: farfiman on January 28, 2014, 08:39:20 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Looking at your posts doesn't show you are in a suicidal situation.
Cut the b.s.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: hyphymikey on January 28, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Looking at your posts doesn't show you are in a suicidal situation.
Cut the b.s.


Go back further, you will notice the change. My last month of posts were me posting with a pay for signature, so yeah it may not seem like it. I was trying to get some btc back in my wallet. Wasn't worth it.

Think what you want though.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: btbrae on January 28, 2014, 08:56:23 AM
So you lost money trading and now you're suicidal?

Everybody loses at some point in life, it is how we learn.

Also most accounts of people saying they "can't afford to live" are actually "can't afford to live like i was doing". Sometimes you gotta make changes and do things you don't like to survive.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitcoinSteve on January 28, 2014, 09:00:26 AM
How did you lose the 80 physical? someone broke in and stole them?  Suicide is never an answer, it can always get better..


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Mobo on January 28, 2014, 09:18:12 AM
Dont do anything that you would regret and think about the people around you.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitcoinbboyce on January 28, 2014, 09:18:44 AM
I think the 1st suicide will be a dogecoiner.

such delusion, very overdose, wow, much self-destruction.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: greyhawk on January 28, 2014, 09:37:16 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: alkaz on January 28, 2014, 09:41:05 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

you are a coward !!!!...  >:( sorry to say
suicide is for pussy

i know life sometimes hard to us, but thats cannot be a reason to end your life
suicide is selfish, think of others around you.
face it like a man, what done is done, nothing you can do about it
what you can do now, is to learn from your mistake
and move on

hang on bro, be strong


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 28, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
OP, I really hope you're joking... If not - Please seek help or talk to someone in the real world. Don't try and find solace here. I don't think I need to tell you why.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Sydboy on January 28, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
So, Do not keep us in suspense,  When do we find out ?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 28, 2014, 10:22:08 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Looking at your posts doesn't show you are in a suicidal situation.
Cut the b.s.


I've seen people who actually went and killed themselves after someone responded precisely like that - suicide threats should always be taken seriously if you give a damn.

To the OP - seek help NOW! If you're serious, find a friend or relative or get yourself to a good psych, you can bounce back.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 28, 2014, 10:26:09 AM
Op 80k is nothing. This too shall pass.

I would like to know how your physical coins got stolen though.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: farfiman on January 28, 2014, 10:30:33 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Looking at your posts doesn't show you are in a suicidal situation.
Cut the b.s.


I've seen people who actually went and killed themselves after someone responded precisely like that - suicide threats should always be taken seriously if you give a damn.

To the OP - seek help NOW! If you're serious, find a friend or relative or get yourself to a good psych, you can bounce back.

Of course I give a damn but this just looks like trying to get coins from "people that care".


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 28, 2014, 10:37:15 AM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Looking at your posts doesn't show you are in a suicidal situation.
Cut the b.s.


I've seen people who actually went and killed themselves after someone responded precisely like that - suicide threats should always be taken seriously if you give a damn.

To the OP - seek help NOW! If you're serious, find a friend or relative or get yourself to a good psych, you can bounce back.

Of course I give a damn but this just looks like trying to get coins from "people that care".


Oh, I agree it could just be an attempt to get free coins and highly recommend nobody make "donations", but it could also be a real case


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 28, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
Your life is worth much more than a measly $80k


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: zulu860 on January 28, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
If you commit suicide you will never get to see Guardians of the Galaxy, the New Spiderman movie and all the cool stuff that this world has to offer.

Try being blacksheeped by family for 10 years leaving you in the streets with no money thats what happened to me.

I survived and came back with a successful vengeance Suicide is not the answer especially for money

Life is more valuable than materialistic things you can jump back into things just be more careful with your security

You cant see it as the end but the beginning of another chapter in your life.

Live and learn  


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: sebdude420 on January 28, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Hegemon on January 28, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Will I be the first?

wooo that's all you found to enter in History ?

that's an hasardous bet cause someone probably did it before you. ;)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 28, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: billyjoeallen on January 28, 2014, 11:05:21 AM
There is a certain freedom in having nothing left to lose. Think what a great story it would be if you were to come back from this. Get off this forum. Get away from bitcoin for a while. There's more to life than money. Go find it. We'll be here when you get back.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: uwbtc on January 28, 2014, 11:12:52 AM
Honestly, 80k is not that big an amount. You *could* just move to a different country and never come back. I don't think 80k is enough to warrant people actually coming after you. Alternatively, just declare bankruptcy.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 28, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
If I was suicidal, I was disappear in Mexico, do blow and hookers then decide. Suicide can wait and it's always an option.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitmutiny on January 28, 2014, 11:33:36 AM
thinking this sort of way leads me to think that you value physical possesions over experience, love, and life itself. So you took a risk and lost, or were dealt a little bad luck, but keep in mind that which you lost is essentially meaningless in our universe. The only thing that truly matters is you, your life, your experiences, and how you as a conscious being grow in the process called life.

Learn the lesson, keep on keepin' on. This too shall pass.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 28, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Your brain chemicals are just fucked up right now. Do some blow to get some motivation then go to the hospital. The blow is essential for a quick pick me up until you get treatment.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: arkintunde on January 28, 2014, 11:41:15 AM
Don't kill yourself bro. Get a part time job, cut down your expenses, recover. Don't let this get the best of you. There are much greater things awaiting you in life both good and bad. How can you appreciate the good things if you don't hit such lows throughout life? How will you face the bad things to come if you will cave so easily to something as superficial as money?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: techstorm2 on January 28, 2014, 12:08:25 PM
So you lost money trading and now you're suicidal?

Everybody loses at some point in life, it is how we learn.

Also most accounts of people saying they "can't afford to live" are actually "can't afford to live like i was doing". Sometimes you gotta make changes and do things you don't like to survive.

I bought a business in 2010 which failed after 2 years and lost me 120K and i just about managed to keep my house. not sure how old you are but sometimes in life you make choices which dont work out, as long as you learn a lesson then suicide is not the answer, i have a family and can work and mine bitcoin and look forward to a great future.

you need to start thinking in terms of glass half full and move on.




Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: jubalix on January 28, 2014, 12:10:52 PM



soooo, Gareth.... interesting day at the office?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on January 28, 2014, 12:29:17 PM
being alive & healthy is worth more than 21 mil bitcoin.... get your fucking head straight


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Meuh6879 on January 28, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
instead of killing yourself ... kill a bank ATM instead (with a big and strong sticker with "Bitcoin accepted"  ;D )


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: colour on January 28, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
If you are honestly considering suicide, may I propose a "different kind" of suicide instead? Don't kill your physical body, but kill the person you have been and leave him behind completely. Do something you would have never considered doing in your "old life". Something outrageous, interesting, fantastic, mind-blowing, crazy, funny, awesome, lolzy.

Maybe follow a jam band, like people did with the Grateful Dead back in the days. Or move to a tiny island in the middle of nowhere, like Palmerston (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25430383). Maybe spend the rest of your life exploring some freaky, inaccessible place, like Tsingy National Park (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126941/Life-edge-Inside-worlds-largest-STONE-forest-tropical-rain-eroded-rocks-300ft-razor-sharp-spikes.html). Or tour around the Amazon Rain Forest, drinking Ayahuasca and San Pedro with the indigenous Shamans. Become a deep sea welder and earn a shitload of money, while laughing the imminent risks of that kind of job in the face, because you are suicidal anyways. Go to a war torn nation like Afghanistan, learn the local language and teach kids how to do maths or how to program. Or do something else that excites you, these are just some examples I spontaneously came up with, there is much more to experience on this earth.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Duomo on January 28, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
A value of a life is priceless. Their is only one you and there won't be another. I hope you reconsider and get through this. Suicide is a permanent answer to a temporary problem. I know you know better than this.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on January 28, 2014, 12:57:26 PM

on another note i dont think will we have money in future, might not be in our lifetime but still.... not worth killing yourself over money ever


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: sebdude420 on January 28, 2014, 12:58:48 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

man im telling you he needs to call 911 and say he wants to kill himself. get a 72 hour hold in a psychward on a 5150. get some drugs to even out those chemical imbalances. stay on the phone with operator til they get there. if you are serious and cant talk to friends and family 3 days away from the real world its a free vacation 3 meals a day nice bed in a hospital.

trust me.

i have been there

schizophrenic

psychotic

bipolar.

i lost all my bitcoins i mined in 2011. i was mining 10  a day for 3 months. WHO GIVES A DAMN!

you do not want to end up having a psychotic episode.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: VforVictory on January 28, 2014, 01:12:47 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

The Voice of Satoshi is calling to you...and it says to jump off a bridge!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Frost000 on January 28, 2014, 01:19:16 PM
If I was suicidal, I was disappear in Mexico, do blow and hookers then decide. Suicide can wait and it's always an option.

This is actually the best advice so far... Just go have fun and see what happens. One day at a time. Etc.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bored on January 28, 2014, 01:26:50 PM
There is so much more to life than money. While it is nice to have, once you lose it you can really discover who you are. I speak from LOTS of experience. Never invest more than you can afford (ie: your life savings). Learn from it and move forward. We all end up having to start over and we ALL leave this life with nothing. Relax, think about how fortunate you are and appreciate something like the sun on your face or being able to dial a telephone number, even a walk to the store. One day you may not have that option.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: gizmoh on January 28, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Money comes and goes, that's the last reason to end one's life.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: oOoOo on January 28, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
@OP:
See this as an opportunity! Sell all your useless junk you have accumulated in life (you wouldn't have any use for them as a dead man anyway!), say goodbye to your friends and family and get a one-way ticket to anywhere you want. It doesn't really matter now since you might be just as well dead. So enjoy your time!

If I was suicidal, I was disappear in Mexico, do blow and hookers then decide. Suicide can wait and it's always an option.

^Something like that lol! :D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on January 28, 2014, 01:51:48 PM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Moon coin  :D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BTCisthefuture on January 28, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
Not sure if this is serious or not.... but if it's serious, DON'T DO IT.  Money comes and goes but life goes on. Whatever seems hard now typically passes as time goes on. Certainly being broke from theft is something that can and will get fixed as the days/weeks/months/years go on.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BTCisthefuture on January 28, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
hyphymikey - I lost over 7500 coins recently, don't sweat it... things may look bad now but EVERYTHING happens for a reason! Remember, YOU have the ability to turn this around from a negative into a positive, good luck and i hope everything works out.

J

7,500 coins???? ouch.  theft or an error or what?  might be a good lesson for others to learn from in there somewhere if you don't mind sharing.  Nice to see your positive attitude though!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: tinus42 on January 28, 2014, 02:35:30 PM
hyphymikey - I lost over 7500 coins recently, don't sweat it... things may look bad now but EVERYTHING happens for a reason! Remember, YOU have the ability to turn this around from a negative into a positive, good luck and i hope everything works out.

J

7,500 coins???? ouch.  theft or an error or what?  might be a good lesson for others to learn from in there somewhere if you don't mind sharing.  Nice to see your positive attitude though!

He threw away his hard drive containing the private keys to BTC7500. It was widely published in the mass media:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/29/man-throws-away-7500-bitcoins-now-worth-7-5-million
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2514580/Bitcoins-worth-4m-hard-drive-thrown-Newport-landfill-accident.html


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Trance on January 28, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Atlas is that you?!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: gentlemand on January 28, 2014, 02:42:58 PM
hyphymikey - I lost over 7500 coins recently, don't sweat it... things may look bad now but EVERYTHING happens for a reason! Remember, YOU have the ability to turn this around from a negative into a positive, good luck and i hope everything works out.

J

7,500 coins???? ouch.  theft or an error or what?  might be a good lesson for others to learn from in there somewhere if you don't mind sharing.  Nice to see your positive attitude though!

I believe this might be the famous Mr. Landfill.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site

If so he is a better man than me. Respect.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: eroxors on January 28, 2014, 02:59:12 PM
Don't do it! You'll make back more than you lost, it just will take some drive.

Also, don't come to bitcointalk when you're feeling down... probably the worst place to be.

Instead of blow, maybe LSD? Don't do drugs.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 2tights on January 28, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
If I was suicidal, I was disappear in Mexico, do blow and hookers then decide. Suicide can wait and it's always an option.

This is actually the best advice so far... Just go have fun and see what happens. One day at a time. Etc.

+1. There's actually a strong correlation to your brain chemistry, and nothing changes that faster than alittle blow. Maybe blow some steam off, then reassess your life. Try focusing on anything or any one you enjoy or like, or perhaps love?

definitely, like someone else said, a perm solution for a temp problem. Not a good idea...


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 2tights on January 28, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
Don't do it! You'll make back more than you lost, it just will take some drive.

Also, don't come to bitcointalk when you're feeling down... probably the worst place to be.

Instead of blow, maybe LSD?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. That's like handing a child a can of gasoline and a lit flare. The last thing you want to be when under the influence of LSD is to be struggling with any sort of emotional or psychological imbalance... holy crap why on earth would you suggest that?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 28, 2014, 05:51:57 PM
Don't do it! You'll make back more than you lost, it just will take some drive.

Also, don't come to bitcointalk when you're feeling down... probably the worst place to be.

Instead of blow, maybe LSD?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. That's like handing a child a can of gasoline and a lit flare. The last thing you want to be when under the influence of LSD is to be struggling with any sort of emotional or psychological imbalance... holy crap why on earth would you suggest that?

What he said, people with mental health problems need doctors, not recreational drugs.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: acoindr on January 28, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
OP don't take this directly but Americans/westerners (which I take it you are) are friggin spoiled, myself included. It's all about perspective. When I'm feeling down it's terrible to admit it but something that makes me feel better (human nature), or it's better to say not so bad, is remembering those so much worse off. For Americans there are a lot. There was that man in Greece who suffering from their financial pressure set himself on fire (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/16/greece-man-fire-debt_n_966956.html).

In North Korea, where there is no Internet, 80 people were recently executed (http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/11/12/80-north-koreans-put-to-death-for-porn-and-soap-operas-south-korean-paper-reports/) for infractions like watching porn and western movies. I remember stories before the financial crises of rampant food inflation causing exacerbated starvation globally, with people in some places making mud cakes - trying to get some nutrition from literally eating dirt.

In that context it's hard to feel sympathetic when you say you can't afford to live. Al Jazerra covered Sean's Outpost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci6V06-TLLU) finding 3 homeless guys that, using bitcoin, began doing online tasks and soon moved into a house. There is so much opportunity with Bitcoin it's unbelievable. The fact that you're an English speaking, I assume male, puts you ahead of so many out the gate. Being Internet savvy and especially involved with Bitcoin puts you in a further minority percent. So you fell down a bit, big deal. Do you know how many would literally die (and sometimes do (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/putting-a-name-to-those-who-died-crossing-the-border/)) to be in your shoes? It's all about perspective.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: ZephramC on January 28, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
This might help to get some perspective:
http://www.globalrichlist.com/


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: XBBlade on January 28, 2014, 06:10:19 PM
Before you commit suicide you should try heroin..  :-X


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: CoolIT on January 28, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
Dont do anything that you would regret and think about the people around you.

Pretty much this. I am sorry for your loss, but if this is a serious thread, don't do anything stupid.

Seriously, as quoted, think of your friends and family !
There are always ways around complicated situations.


Sorry, but
I think the 1st suicide will be a dogecoiner.

such delusion, very overdose, wow, much self-destruction.

This is hilarious !!!
+1 on that.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: CoolIT on January 28, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
I think a lot of us would be interested in your background, where you from, what you studied ...

BTW, if you know bitcoins, you are probably teksavvy and logical... those are character traits that can easily get you a job.

Also, you have not replied to your thread in a while, REPLY !!!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: shackleford on January 28, 2014, 06:57:22 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

For free ass kicking/tasing/bullet in the head call 911...


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gimpeline on January 28, 2014, 07:05:12 PM
Like post number 4 said. cutthe BS
Posting here instead of doing it tells me you want atention instead of suiside.
Sorry for you loss, but get over it


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: gortonc on January 28, 2014, 07:08:35 PM
"The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all your money."--Anonymous

I seriously doubt you are worth less than what you have lost.

Would love to hear from you...


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: kwest on January 28, 2014, 07:17:16 PM
I understand that it must sting like a motherfucker. And if you're anything like me, you may never get the chance to save up that much cash ever again.

But... would I kill myself because of that? Never. I have responsibilities.. people that depend on me, people that care that I stay alive. I have MEANING in my life. Cash doesn't give me meaning.. sure, it opens up more possibilities.. but meaning? No. Volunteer work is meaningful. Caring for my family is meaningful. And that's why I stay alive.

If you don't have a meaningful life.. maybe you should do something about that. And it doesn't require a single dime.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: pungopete468 on January 28, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
OP, don't even entertain the thought.

Take a walk. Walk across America or something! Do something besides sitting around and thinking about this temporary situation.

Regardless of how much value you place on your life right now you need to see the value of living.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: iheartubuntu on January 28, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
Please dont do anything drastic right now. I have been through the wringer myself.

Back in the early 90s I ended up living on the streets in the bay area. I got my act together, got a basic job at a pizza joint, bought a 10 yr old BMW, got a computer with AOL, met some wonderful women online (hey now!) and got into reggae music. I started my own record label, signed some top names, made lots of $$$ over the next 7 years, I dominated the MP3.com reggae charts for 3 years in a row, had the best GF in the world, traveled the world and then some, won some music awards too. It all came crashing down on me in 2001. My GF was raped by her doctor and I lost some friends in 9/11. I closed everything up. I hit rock bottom. I really dont think you could get lower then were I was. 80 coins is nothing man. Nothing in comparison with losing friends, nothing in comparison to hearing what happened to your GF over the phone and not being able to immediately do something about it or to comfort her. Please put those coins into context with mine and other peoples life tragedies.

I broke up with the GF. I started traveling on my own and have met wonderful lifelong friends. If youve never traveled it is an awesome experience. I met my future wife in Italy. She is beautiful inside and out. Ive been all around europe 20+ times. Ive met my relatives on my dads side for the first time last year (my dad is from europe). I got into Ubuntu linux operating system and enjoy it. Ive met great people at conventions and online. I got into bitcoins and have been to several conferences now and have met great people, lifelong friends now.

We are on this big massive rock filled with all sorts of animals and life and machines and inventions and we are circling a big huge sun along with 8 other planets doing the same thing and or solar system is just a dot in our milky way galaxy which is just a dot in the known universe. This existence is AWESOME and AMAZING! With all the good times and bad times I regret nothing and look forward to whatever is ahead of me. You will have new experiences and new bitcoins and new friends.

DO NOT GIVE UP. It gets better.

Please email me if you feel the need. Hang in there man!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: fat% on January 28, 2014, 07:47:23 PM
There was a time when I had 200+ Bitcoins. Could have bought way more back in February '13. 'bout half a year later I lost $650,000.

80 coins is nothing. Not worth your life. Shit happens and I am still around.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 28, 2014, 08:06:36 PM
Is you are serious, Page 52-80  of The Peacefull Pill e Handbook(2012), (http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7548164/Final_Exit_%282009%29__amp__Peaceful_Pill_eHandbook_%282012%29.rar)
That link/torrent also has many other useful methods/tips.
If you do attempt suicide, DO NOT FAIL.
Nothing more embarrassing then failing to fail,
on the other hand at least you would be alive to feel shame.

If you are not serious, stop crying like a little b.

The old saying put up or shut up applies here.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 28, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Anything you want to disclose before you depart?

Charlie,

I've used your service to buy ~10K USD in bitcoins over the last couple of months. I was just wondering if your process is going to change once Mt.Gox US goes to Coinlab? As in any reportings to Government/IRS. My question is aimed mostly towards cashing out, since I believe your service can move Mt.Gox cash/codes to Paypal. Which I can then pull out at an atm or use as fiat.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 28, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

Don't forget about this sicko!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83559.0


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: GigaCoin on January 28, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
Hey dude, we all lose money and you know what fuck it doesn't matter. I too lost a lot of BTC trading in my early days and i still haven't recovered due to the large amount of loss, i own less BTC as a result. but i don't regret one bit, what matters is that i'm making the most of the opportunities available in crypto now as much as i can afford to.

Not sure what happened to u but it seems u lost a lot of coins trading and some were stolen ? Maybe report stole physical gold to the cops see if they can do anything, if they can't then you need to find other ways to make money and live your life to the fullest of your capacity.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: devthedev on January 28, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
Will I be the first? Its been about a month since I lost all my coins, which was all my savings, and only income. I can no longer afford to live.

Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 28, 2014, 09:16:37 PM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Sonny on January 28, 2014, 09:31:42 PM
Sad to hear your loss, but please don't commit suicide.
Please think about your family before harming yourself.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: devthedev on January 28, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

How so? Come on man.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 28, 2014, 10:25:05 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins.
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: iheartubuntu on January 28, 2014, 10:28:20 PM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Sonny on January 28, 2014, 10:37:29 PM

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I am not really sure if this is a good idea :-\


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 28, 2014, 10:41:20 PM
I am not really sure if this is a good idea :-\

It's a risky idea if they have a gun.
Usually attempted(failed) suicides are pill related.
If he/she has not thoroughly researched suicide he/she will probably just swallow some pills and alcohol, pass out, vomit, wake up in a pool of his/her own puke.

If he/she is foolish in the pill he/she attempts to use for suicide, he/she may be left with some permanent damage.
If the OP does read this after waking up in vomit, seek medical attention.
They can purge your system if you act fast.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 28, 2014, 10:45:23 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins.
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

Belief in an afterlife can either promote OR discourage suicide - many religious traditions hold that suicide is a sin.

Letting someone attempt it is NEVER a good idea - not only is there the obvious risk of them succeeding but there are also plenty of common methods which may not be lethal but will cause lasting damage.

The way to help someone who is suicidal is to get them to a good psychiatrist.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitcoinSteve on January 28, 2014, 10:54:57 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins.
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

Belief in an afterlife can either promote OR discourage suicide - many religious traditions hold that suicide is a sin.

Letting someone attempt it is NEVER a good idea - not only is there the obvious risk of them succeeding but there are also plenty of common methods which may not be lethal but will cause lasting damage.

The way to help someone who is suicidal is to get them to a good psychiatrist.

Werent you arrested? BITINSTANT GUY?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Sonny on January 28, 2014, 11:00:08 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins.
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

Belief in an afterlife can either promote OR discourage suicide - many religious traditions hold that suicide is a sin.

Letting someone attempt it is NEVER a good idea - not only is there the obvious risk of them succeeding but there are also plenty of common methods which may not be lethal but will cause lasting damage.

The way to help someone who is suicidal is to get them to a good psychiatrist.

Werent you arrested? BITINSTANT GUY?

He is the Co-founder and CTO (from his profile) :D
Not everyone in BitInstant were arrested lol


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Z1# on January 28, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
I don't know if the suicide guy "hyphymikey" is reading any of this, but it is starting to make me feel better about the world.  :)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: MrScrotes on January 29, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bbit on January 29, 2014, 12:36:51 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bbit on January 29, 2014, 12:37:41 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

Don't forget about this sicko!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83559.0

Haha I remember that you sicko!  :P


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: drrussellshane on January 29, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

If so, I am really sorry to hear that.



Also, cheer up, OP.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitcoinSteve on January 29, 2014, 01:19:44 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

what really happened?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bbit on January 29, 2014, 01:38:23 AM
Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

what really happened?

Someone sent me pictures of him  pretty much dead but it was tough to tell what they really were sure seemed like him....


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: devthedev on January 29, 2014, 01:40:08 AM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

Yep! I like you (:


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: drrussellshane on January 29, 2014, 01:56:17 AM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

Yep! I like you (:

I like you all, and I know what you are talking about.

I think that, perhaps everyone will, in time.

It is generally futile to speak about things ineffable to those who haven't the ears to hear them.

The Universe is unfolding as it should; there is not a grain of sand out of place!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: IamCANADIAN013 on January 29, 2014, 01:59:26 AM
Suicide is never the answer.  Remember all the people you will hurt in the process.

My roommate hung himself over 11 years ago and I found him.  I can never get that image out of my head.

Just think of all the things that you will never be able to do again and get joy out of.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: devthedev on January 29, 2014, 02:15:52 AM
Glad you're okay man!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Sonny on January 29, 2014, 02:18:56 AM
I appreciate the support! I received some donations from a couple members, and although I am trying to stay away from bitcoin to clear my head, I felt they needed to know how much I appreciate it! It shows the love throughout the forums between our members.

I was using my bitcoin profits to pay for college but I  was unable to pay for this semester, and hopefully I can find work to continue  school in the summer. So my focus will remain on that and off my losses. The bad part was that I was addicted to these forums and addicted to Bitcoin, so it isn't easy.

But thanks for all the support. Hopefully I'll "survive" through this and be back on the forums with you guys soon!

Good to hear that :D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Nathonas on January 29, 2014, 02:45:38 AM
Oh man. I'm so glad I found this post. I just lost the majority of my coins that I was going to use to pay for last 2 years of university. And I lost them in the stupidest way possible - by gambling on a bitcoin dice site. It was only about 6 bitcoins but that along with student loan was just enough to get me by. I feel like a fucking moron.

But for OP it's much worse...I don't know what to tell you man, except to try and channel your anger and frustration into changing your life for the better and pushing yourself to rise above this loss.



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: whtchocla7e on January 29, 2014, 02:54:49 AM
This thread for real or just a cleaver way to get Bitcoins from strangers? I thought I'd seen it all..


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Pangia on January 29, 2014, 03:02:04 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: BitCoinsLOL on January 29, 2014, 03:15:46 AM
Had over 400 LTC stolen I was pissed for a while so I can sympathize with you. Keep your head up.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 03:16:11 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever.

Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: ihaveafuckinggun on January 29, 2014, 03:25:57 AM
That would be pretty crazy if you did that man. I hope you don't and I don't even know you. :o ???


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 29, 2014, 03:35:05 AM
We were all suicidal at one point or another.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Pangia on January 29, 2014, 03:39:24 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever.

Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community.

I can't say either way whether this poster is scamming or not. But what if he isn't. Our concern as a community shouldn't be that he'll have an "incident report" to follow him around. Our primary concern should be that someone went to his door and asked if he was okay and wanted to speak in person. The "incident report" actually WOULD NOT follow him around, since he's not committing any crime. In NYC, the "incident report" is known as an "Aided Card". One would be prepared if you fell and broke your arm on the sidewalk or as in the case of the OP, if you had suicidal thoughts. He's not committing any crime and therefore would not be treated, categorized or reported as a criminal. And the Aided Card is not public information, yes like most other documents that the government possesses it can be FOIL-ed, but you'd have to already know that the incident took place and you'd have to have some really specific information (name, dob, address, etc) to even attempt to obtain a copy of it. And if you already knew that why would you FOIL it.

Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 29, 2014, 04:22:14 AM
Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.

That is nonsense, people who commit suicide rarely tell others they are going to.

Telling others you are going to commit suicide before doing it,
is like calling the bank and letting em know you are coming to rob them.

Saying "I'm going to commit suicide." is the same as "Please give me attention, I feel my life is somehow bad."

If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP,
day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers.

EDIT: I would feel no sympathy/sadness/empathy for any individual who chose suicide due to monetary/greed reasons.
I have seen/given money to homeless people who seemed happy.
A person can survive with a lot less than people think.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: just_me on January 29, 2014, 04:25:49 AM

Luke 15:11-32

New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Lost Son

11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.

13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.

“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’

22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.

25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’

28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’

31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever.

Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community.

I can't say either way whether this poster is scamming or not. But what if he isn't. Our concern as a community shouldn't be that he'll have an "incident report" to follow him around. Our primary concern should be that someone went to his door and asked if he was okay and wanted to speak in person. The "incident report" actually WOULD NOT follow him around, since he's not committing any crime. In NYC, the "incident report" is known as an "Aided Card". One would be prepared if you fell and broke your arm on the sidewalk or as in the case of the OP, if you had suicidal thoughts. He's not committing any crime and therefore would not be treated, categorized or reported as a criminal. And the Aided Card is not public information, yes like most other documents that the government possesses it can be FOIL-ed, but you'd have to already know that the incident took place and you'd have to have some really specific information (name, dob, address, etc) to even attempt to obtain a copy of it. And if you already knew that why would you FOIL it.

Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.

No need to apologize... it's still informative nonetheless :) It's no one concern that OP would have a report (no matter what it's called) follow him around, it was an attempt to show you that sometimes the right thing to do isn't always the right thing to do in some cases. Just because a report was written about you doesn't make you a criminal. There's no crime in thinking or attempting to take your life, but it is a crime (literally) against society if you succeed. For further thought, not necessarily discussion....

Should we begin making inquiries like this when we see these types of comments pasted on boards on the internet? Would about the youtube comments, or CNN? At what point do you use better judgement to determine whether someone is serious or not? Actually I'm not sure I had to go there because it's pretty evident that's something most in this community lack.

And about the report following one around... they do. I take it you've never had a serious inquiry into your background before - believe me, they find everything! Not that it's a real baddie... but what if he didn't want 'they' to know he engages in bitcoin activities?

Again, I actually agree with your position, just trying to give a different perspective is all.

OP, so sorry for high jacking your thread. But at least you know there are those of us who care :)  


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.

That is nonsense, people who commit suicide rarely tell others they are going to.

Telling others you are going to commit suicide before doing it,
is like calling the bank and letting em know you are coming to rob them.

Saying "I'm going to commit suicide." is the same as "Please give me attention, I feel my life is somehow bad."

If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP,
day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers.


So uninformed. Here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm (http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm) If you'd like, I can pull a few scholarly articles but I have the sense that you wouldn't have the sense to understand it. I'm sure wikipedia has this info too.

Please STFU with your nonsense opinions bully.





Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: last2come222 on January 29, 2014, 04:32:28 AM
You can always find things around you worth living for.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on January 29, 2014, 04:39:54 AM
So uninformed. Here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm (http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm) If you'd like, I can pull a few scholarly articles but I have the sense that you wouldn't have the sense to understand it. I'm sure wikipedia has this info too.

Please STFU with your nonsense opinions bully.

From your own article
Quote
Most people who commit suicide don't want to die—they just want to stop hurting.

He never really wanted death.
He is just being a whiny little b.
Everybody has a lot of hardship, OP needs to just deal with it.

Lastly I'm ignoring you, I resent being called a bully.



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: iheartubuntu on January 29, 2014, 04:41:50 AM

If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP,
day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers.

EDIT: I would feel no sympathy/sadness/empathy for any individual who chose suicide due to monetary/greed reasons.
I have seen/given money to homeless people who seemed happy.
A person can survive with a lot less than people think.


Do you have no heart man? No heart at all? I was in line the other day at In-N-Out getting myself a delicious burger. I was waiting 14 cars deep. I was there 45 minutes in the line. I was bored and tired and not hungry after all of that. But I knew my wife would still want a burger so I proceeded to wait. When I pulled up to the window I asked how much and they said it was free! So ... why? Why free? They said the person in front of me paid for my bill. WOW. It was a revelation moment that there is some little bit of good in the world. So I paid it forward by paying the persons bill in the car behind me. I hope it kept going after that. Talk about awesome!

Next time youre in line someplace... just f**king randomly pay for the person behind you. See how the world reacts. Thing about positive thoughts always. If you are not into paying the guy behind you.... do it with a $10 dollar bill. Hold it in your hands, think about the world and the universe and ask the universe how you can help out with that little $10. Think about it all day. The universe will answer back to you, I promise. It might be an old lady without a home needing a meal, or a man on the side of the road who needs $10 for gasoline, or even a woman who gives kisses for $10. Ha! It could be anything, but it will be something and you will feel connected to everyone including me and Chris and Gareth and Dev.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
So uninformed. Here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm (http://www.helpguide.org/mental/suicide_prevention.htm) If you'd like, I can pull a few scholarly articles but I have the sense that you wouldn't have the sense to understand it. I'm sure wikipedia has this info too.

Please STFU with your nonsense opinions bully.

From your own article
Quote
Most people who commit suicide don't want to die—they just want to stop hurting.

He never really wanted death.
He is just being a whiny little b.
Everybody has a lot of hardship, OP needs to just deal with it.

Lastly I'm ignoring you, I resent being called a bully.


Of course most don't WANT to commit suicide idiot, they just feel as if it's the only way out, relief. Like I said, you wouldn't comprehend, no surprise.

And please ignore me. Hopefully I won't have to endure reading the trash that you put out.

LOOK everyone!!! I'm being ignored by someone who can't take what they dish out! Boo hoo!

A bully who feels he has the need to put people down when they're already feeling down.

You know 7Priest7... this says a lot about your character.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 06:30:02 AM

If he made 80 BTC day trading I feel no sympathy for the OP,
day trading is against the ideals of BTC, and his 80 BTC loss was karma taking back what's hers.

EDIT: I would feel no sympathy/sadness/empathy for any individual who chose suicide due to monetary/greed reasons.
I have seen/given money to homeless people who seemed happy.
A person can survive with a lot less than people think.


Do you have no heart man? No heart at all? I was in line the other day at In-N-Out getting myself a delicious burger. I was waiting 14 cars deep. I was there 45 minutes in the line. I was bored and tired and not hungry after all of that. But I knew my wife would still want a burger so I proceeded to wait. When I pulled up to the window I asked how much and they said it was free! So ... why? Why free? They said the person in front of me paid for my bill. WOW. It was a revelation moment that there is some little bit of good in the world. So I paid it forward by paying the persons bill in the car behind me. I hope it kept going after that. Talk about awesome!

Next time youre in line someplace... just f**king randomly pay for the person behind you. See how the world reacts. Thing about positive thoughts always. If you are not into paying the guy behind you.... do it with a $10 dollar bill. Hold it in your hands, think about the world and the universe and ask the universe how you can help out with that little $10. Think about it all day. The universe will answer back to you, I promise. It might be an old lady without a home needing a meal, or a man on the side of the road who needs $10 for gasoline, or even a woman who gives kisses for $10. Ha! It could be anything, but it will be something and you will feel connected to everyone including me and Chris and Gareth and Dev.

Thanks. My ill feelings toward the heartless is gone after reading this. Sometimes I forget there's no end without a beginning, no bad without good, no rich without the poor. Equilibrium.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: phazon307 on January 29, 2014, 06:33:09 AM
When thinking about suicide always remember this just because today is bad doesn't mean tomorrow will be the same. If you got that man once you can do it again you just may have to try harder this time around. how you lose trading? I start out with small amount work my way up don't get greedy that is how people lose is they get greedy. Best way is to take what you know you can't live without set it aside and leave it alone then gamble with the rest.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: devthedev on January 29, 2014, 02:29:04 PM

Luke 15:11-32

New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Lost Son

11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.

13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.

“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’

22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.

25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’

28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’

31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”



One of my favorite!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 29, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
What's the moral?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: iheartubuntu on January 29, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
What's the moral?

I like this parable and parables in general, but Ive personally seen people use this particular parable to their advantage on their elderly parents. So I have mixed feelings about it.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on January 29, 2014, 02:56:46 PM
What's the moral?

I like this parable and parables in general, but Ive personally seen people use this particular parable to their advantage on their elderly parents. So I have mixed feelings about it.

How's that side expressed?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: wmr42393 on January 29, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
I think the 1st suicide will be a dogecoiner.

such delusion, very overdose, wow, much self-destruction.

+1 hahah


but to the original poster.  were you not insured, house insurance for example?

I hope you are able to recover from this loss. remember some people live on less then a dollar a day! You can bounce back, however distant that feels now.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 29, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

How so? Come on man.

One of many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 29, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins. <opted to not change the glow from red to yellow>
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

You've heard of suicide-by-cop, so is this the first suicide-by-Romans (or is it suicide-by-Jews, for I'm not that versed on the verses?)?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 29, 2014, 03:57:26 PM
Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

If I were a Supreme Being, I would have created a more complex system oppose to using an easy one for all-things-considered to develop.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTV_uEHT2gOLHVmtLV5TCTTZhM-6wJ0cEjwUDjJ2MW1yeroedx5Jw

"I am God! Look at me!"

"Whatever, Dude!"


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 29, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
I am not really sure if this is a good idea :-\

It's a risky idea if they have a gun.
Usually attempted(failed) suicides are pill related.
If he/she has not thoroughly researched suicide he/she will probably just swallow some pills and alcohol, pass out, vomit, wake up in a pool of his/her own puke.

If he/she is foolish in the pill he/she attempts to use for suicide, he/she may be left with some permanent damage.
If the OP does read this after waking up in vomit, seek medical attention.
They can purge your system if you act fast.

Been there, done that--TWICE! Damn, I miss their pussies! Luckily, for me, I've yet to meet a goat worth killing myself over, albeit one came pretty damn close once.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/kazziuz/goat.jpg


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 04:06:08 PM
How so? Come on man.
The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins. <opted to not change the glow from red to yellow>
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

You've heard of suicide-by-cop, so is this the first suicide-by-Romans (or is it suicide-by-Jews, for I'm not that versed on the verses?)?

Dear lord. I'm not a Christian, but grew up around many and I respect their beliefs - all religions. This Priest character is a character. I'm not sure what Jesus' sacrificial death has to do with suicide, anybody? And I thought Christians believe that suicide is a sin that will cast their ass straight to hell? You're actually promoting that people attempt suicide? Jesus Christ.

Thank God I'm on Priest's ignore list... lest I might have to read an even more ignorant response to this.  


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 29, 2014, 04:38:02 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

If there's no actual plan in place or no attempt then police will in fact not usually be of a lot of use - I have direct personal experience in this area and know what i'm talking about. In my experience (and i've had to handle way too many cases of suicidal people to count) law enforcement will respond if someone is RIGHT THERE AND THEN making an attempt, but otherwise will not respond to pure suicidal ideation.

The way to help people is to get them to see a psychiatrist.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

If there's no actual plan in place or no attempt then police will in fact not usually be of a lot of use - I have direct personal experience in this area and know what i'm talking about. In my experience (and i've had to handle way too many cases of suicidal people to count) law enforcement will respond if someone is RIGHT THERE AND THEN making an attempt, but otherwise will not respond to pure suicidal ideation.

The way to help people is to get them to see a psychiatrist.

huh? Where are you located, the US? My local PD would respond (and I believe most accredited departments have to). There may not be any action taken e.g., escort to hospital for psych eval, but they WILL respond. LE's job doesn't all revolve around criminal activity. Their purpose is to protect and serve; meaning provide service to their citizenship. That service comes in the form of changing flat tires, escorting funeral processions, giving the elderly a ride to the grocery store, performing lifesaving CPR on a bloody baby a mother pushed out on her living room floor, and the list goes on. This is the type of service they swear to uphold. No, it's not in the job description, but protecting the lives and serving the people is what they do. And they do because they care, not because of the lousy ass paycheck.

I'd like to know which departments won't respond to conduct a welfare check if someone is having suicidal thoughts. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I have direct personal experience with LE. I know what I'm talking about... and I'd be willing to put some coins on it. I'm that confident.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 29, 2014, 05:15:56 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 05:48:24 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 29, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 06:45:24 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.

Ah! That brings another beast into the equation... perhaps a slightly different beast? This piece is out of my league; way too many variables for me to even pretend I know what I'd be talking about. So I guess in this situation, the mentally ill person making the threats has immediate supervision (therefore no opportunity), don't have the ability to act, so their life isn't in jeopardy? Just can't imagine a non response in situations where opportunity, ability, and jeopardy exists.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 29, 2014, 06:58:24 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.

Ah! That brings another beast into the equation... perhaps a slightly different beast? This piece is out of my league; way too many variables for me to even pretend I know what I'd be talking about. So I guess in this situation, the mentally ill person making the threats has immediate supervision (therefore no opportunity), don't have the ability to act, so their life isn't in jeopardy? Just can't imagine a non response in situations where opportunity, ability, and jeopardy exists.

Unfortunately not quite - most people with mental health issues are NOT under constant supervision (and in fact should not be unless it's absolutely necessary).

Neither do they not have the ability to act. Do not read "mental illness" as the hollywood depiction of someone shouting at invisible voices in their head, it's far more complex than that and suicidal depression in itself is a mental illness which manifests purely as regular old depression combined with suicidal ideation.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 07:41:06 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.

Ah! That brings another beast into the equation... perhaps a slightly different beast? This piece is out of my league; way too many variables for me to even pretend I know what I'd be talking about. So I guess in this situation, the mentally ill person making the threats has immediate supervision (therefore no opportunity), don't have the ability to act, so their life isn't in jeopardy? Just can't imagine a non response in situations where opportunity, ability, and jeopardy exists.

Unfortunately not quite - most people with mental health issues are NOT under constant supervision (and in fact should not be unless it's absolutely necessary).

Neither do they not have the ability to act. Do not read "mental illness" as the hollywood depiction of someone shouting at invisible voices in their head, it's far more complex than that and suicidal depression in itself is a mental illness which manifests purely as regular old depression combined with suicidal ideation.

I won't pretend to know where to begin to with this one; too many variables outside of my scope to consider. Obviously the hollywood versions mandate a response (high potential for violence), and so do cases where a person is clinically depressed (more likely to act). Mentally ill or not, I can't think of one reason why LE won't respond, but evidently they exist. Pure speculation at this point but it could be because it's third party info, the person might not be threatening only thoughts with no desire to act, IDK to be honest. But the last thing I want to do is rent out space in head to thinking about it; that space is already reserved :P  I'll have to get back with you if one comes to mind.

Boy, haven't we highjacked this thread? Good stuff though - I hope others found it informative.

And why can't the the majority of communication exchanges on this forum debate with tact like us? Another thread I suppose :P We should do this again.

 


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: tsoPANos on January 29, 2014, 07:45:21 PM
Please don't suicide.
Life is not just money.
ALso, you can make a good re-start and be more cautious.
Security should be high priority


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on January 29, 2014, 07:56:36 PM
Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right? :)  Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.

Ah! That brings another beast into the equation... perhaps a slightly different beast? This piece is out of my league; way too many variables for me to even pretend I know what I'd be talking about. So I guess in this situation, the mentally ill person making the threats has immediate supervision (therefore no opportunity), don't have the ability to act, so their life isn't in jeopardy? Just can't imagine a non response in situations where opportunity, ability, and jeopardy exists.

Unfortunately not quite - most people with mental health issues are NOT under constant supervision (and in fact should not be unless it's absolutely necessary).

Neither do they not have the ability to act. Do not read "mental illness" as the hollywood depiction of someone shouting at invisible voices in their head, it's far more complex than that and suicidal depression in itself is a mental illness which manifests purely as regular old depression combined with suicidal ideation.

I won't pretend to know where to begin to with this one; too many variables outside of my scope to consider. Obviously the hollywood versions mandate a response (high potential for violence), and so do cases where a person is clinically depressed (more likely to act). Mentally ill or not, I can't think of one reason why LE won't respond, but evidently they exist. Pure speculation at this point but it could be because it's third party info, the person might not be threatening only thoughts with no desire to act, IDK to be honest. But the last thing I want to do is rent out space in head to thinking about it; that space is already reserved :P  I'll have to get back with you if one comes to mind.

Boy, haven't we highjacked this thread? Good stuff though - I hope others found it informative.

And why can't the the majority of communication exchanges on this forum debate with tact like us? Another thread I suppose :P We should do this again.

 

We have indeed hijacked this thread a tad, i've PMed the OP asking if he's alright and offering to help him contact local services if he needs it.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 29, 2014, 08:25:17 PM
We have indeed hijacked this thread a tad, i've PMed the OP asking if he's alright and offering to help him contact local services if he needs it.

See OP - there are people who actually care :) Just brush/laugh off the comments from those bullies. Take it one day at a time :)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 2tights on January 29, 2014, 08:44:14 PM
We have indeed hijacked this thread a tad, i've PMed the OP asking if he's alright and offering to help him contact local services if he needs it.

See OP - there are people who actually care :) Just brush/laugh off the comments from those bullies. Take it one day at a time :)

+1



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: iheartubuntu on January 31, 2014, 01:07:10 AM
I did receive a reply from him thru PM, he was alive as of yesterday. Today? IDK.

It would be super kind if the OP gave a status.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: ZephramC on February 04, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
Sometimes its the devil trying to kill people, when they are thinking of killing themselves.

You might consider getting help from a priest.

I remember how the devil tried to get me to throw myself off of a high bridge into a swift moving river one time,
many years ago. I just barely survived, and I did not jump off the bridge.

but I wound up going to a christian priest at the salvation army, that very day.

The priest did not really seem to know what to do.
But the priest asked me if I wanted to receive Jesus, and Jesus could help me.
I said ok.

Then the priest annointed my head with oil, and he prayed that Jesus would help me, and become
my lord and savior. He gave me a holy bible to read.

And I received Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I then got help from Jesus after that,
to help with rebuking the devil.

I used to read psalm 91 out loud repetitively, asking for Gods protection.




And sometimes its the God trying to kill people.
(For every element of empty set every proposition is true.)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Mythul on February 04, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Don't commit suicide over virtual money !


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: ZephramC on February 04, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
Don't commit suicide over virtual money !

Don't commit suicide over any money.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: startselect on February 05, 2014, 07:45:06 AM
I sometimes feel horrible because something always kept me from looking further into Bitcoin until recently, and it gets me thinking of all the things that I could have avoided in my life, and how much better my life would be. I keep thinking back to that moment that I just decided not to look deeper into it like I do with everything that I read about, with an open mind. So up my ally, I missed out on mining Litecoins when it was new, buying Bitcoins and Litecoins when they were worth .25 and dollars each. And how I don't have enough Bitcoins now to invest in many coins that I'm interested in. But there's still always new opportunity. Like NEM gave me some hope because of how cheap it is. If it reaches 4 cents per coin then perhaps you can make 80 thousand dollars. Assuming that a share is 1 million coin.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gareth Nelson on February 05, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Sometimes its the devil trying to kill people, when they are thinking of killing themselves.

You might consider getting help from a priest.

I remember how the devil tried to get me to throw myself off of a high bridge into a swift moving river one time,
many years ago. I just barely survived, and I did not jump off the bridge.

but I wound up going to a christian priest at the salvation army, that very day.

The priest did not really seem to know what to do.
But the priest asked me if I wanted to receive Jesus, and Jesus could help me.
I said ok.

Then the priest annointed my head with oil, and he prayed that Jesus would help me, and become
my lord and savior. He gave me a holy bible to read.

And I received Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I then got help from Jesus after that,
to help with rebuking the devil.

I used to read psalm 91 out loud repetitively, asking for Gods protection.




No offence, but the religious stuff is really not appropriate - it's not "the devil" who makes people take their lives or harm themselves - it's mental illness (specifically depression), and this is something that needs proper help from a medical professional.

A priest may be a supportive figure for a believer (and without knowing the OP you don't know what his religious beliefs are), but they can only be there to "lean on" and should not be the primary source of treatment.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 05, 2014, 03:56:47 PM
man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

If there's no actual plan in place or no attempt then police will in fact not usually be of a lot of use - I have direct personal experience in this area and know what i'm talking about. In my experience (and i've had to handle way too many cases of suicidal people to count) law enforcement will respond if someone is RIGHT THERE AND THEN making an attempt, but otherwise will not respond to pure suicidal ideation.

The way to help people is to get them to see a psychiatrist.

huh? Where are you located, the US? My local PD would respond (and I believe most accredited departments have to). There may not be any action taken e.g., escort to hospital for psych eval, but they WILL respond. LE's job doesn't all revolve around criminal activity. Their purpose is to protect and serve; meaning provide service to their citizenship. That service comes in the form of changing flat tires, escorting funeral processions, giving the elderly a ride to the grocery store, performing lifesaving CPR on a bloody baby a mother pushed out on her living room floor, and the list goes on. This is the type of service they swear to uphold. No, it's not in the job description, but protecting the lives and serving the people is what they do. And they do because they care, not because of the lousy ass paycheck.

I'd like to know which departments won't respond to conduct a welfare check if someone is having suicidal thoughts. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I have direct personal experience with LE. I know what I'm talking about... and I'd be willing to put some coins on it. I'm that confident.

You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 01:28:19 AM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 06, 2014, 05:36:54 AM
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 06, 2014, 05:56:03 AM
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 07:01:37 AM
Awwe man... sometimes the obvious avoids the hell out of me. You mean well-played, like a conscious decision to select the date? Forgive me - not being sarcastic, just a blonde sometimes :)

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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on February 06, 2014, 10:42:04 AM
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 06, 2014, 11:23:09 AM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 

Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was your thread, but I'll be sure to call the police to help change my tyre next time or to give my gran a lift to the shops, so thanks for your advice.  :)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 11:23:54 AM

I walked right into that one!, lol.

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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 11:32:27 AM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 
Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was your thread, but I'll be sure to call the police to help change my tyre next time or to give my gran a lift to the shops, so thanks for your advice.  :)

Seriously? Still don't understand what I said, I see. You missed the whole damn point, but think you're actually making one by taking something out of context. To those of us who have more than middle school education, you've officially just made yourself look like an idiot. Congrats!!!

And please don't pass up my offer on giving you free coins!!!!! I wasn't joking. But if you pass I understand. You'd only validate what the hell I said. Stupid.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on February 06, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
Dude get back into gaming
Financial stuff doesn't seem to be your strong suite
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 06, 2014, 11:44:49 AM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 
Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was your thread, but I'll be sure to call the police to help change my tyre next time or to give my gran a lift to the shops, so thanks for your advice.  :)

Seriously? Still don't understand what I said, I see. You missed the whole damn point, but think you're actually making one by taking something out of context. To those of us who have more than middle school education, you've officially just made yourself look like an idiot. Congrats!!!

And please don't pass up my offer on giving you free coins!!!!! I wasn't joking. But if you pass I understand. You'd only validate what the hell I said. Stupid.

You've got to be pretty dense to somehow assume you know what level of education I achieved. I have enough education to know that you don't need to put 3-5 exclamation points on the end of your sentences. Stupid.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on February 06, 2014, 11:46:08 AM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 
Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was your thread, but I'll be sure to call the police to help change my tyre next time or to give my gran a lift to the shops, so thanks for your advice.  :)

Seriously? Still don't understand what I said, I see. You missed the whole damn point, but think you're actually making one by taking something out of context. To those of us who have more than middle school education, you've officially just made yourself look like an idiot. Congrats!!!

And please don't pass up my offer on giving you free coins!!!!! I wasn't joking. But if you pass I understand. You'd only validate what the hell I said. Stupid.

I'll take the coins, thanks.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 11:59:13 AM
Dude get back into gaming
Financial stuff doesn't seem to be your thing
And get some pussy

Oh, I think you think I'm the OP? Ok, I called myself a blonde because I asked for clarification on what PG was hinting at... and now you're posting pics and and trash talking, to me? lol, too much! What I didn't want to assume is whether PG is telling us the OP created this thread on the anniversary of signing up here, and have since dropped off the radar. In other words... we don't know the outcome of OP's subject line. I know I think too damn much, which is why I asked. Didn't realize I was going to confuse anyone by asking that!? Jeez!

From my short existence on this board I realize most of you are simply not on my plain. I find myself having to explain in grave detail some of the most simple concepts that people still don't seem to comprehend. I know I was the smartest in class, but damn! It's not that hard. But you totally just gave me an idea! I'm going to offer a bounty for a sanity check :) This should be fun, lol. 


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 12:09:06 PM
You've got to be pretty dense to somehow assume you know what level of education I achieved. I have enough education to know that you don't need to put 3-5 exclamation points on the end of your sentences. Stupid.

LOL!!!!! <--- You can't be for real. It was for lots of emphasis, but without the yelling. OMG, you must still be in school? Makes sense. Regardless, you just proved my point again that you don't have much comprehension.

Are you stupid? You're turning down free coins!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 12:10:26 PM
You can't just ring the police and tell them to take somebody away. It doesn't work like that. They need to be an apparent danger to themselves or the public. A lawsuit waiting to happen would be getting kidnapped by the police just because somebody reported you as being depressed or dangerous.

Seriously? I don't think you comprehended what you read. Please tell WHERE I said anything that even hinted at this?!!!! I will throw a few coins your way if you can. <--- not a joke.

In the future before you butt into other people's convo and put words in their mouths' - learn to understand what you read :) 
Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was your thread, but I'll be sure to call the police to help change my tyre next time or to give my gran a lift to the shops, so thanks for your advice.  :)

Seriously? Still don't understand what I said, I see. You missed the whole damn point, but think you're actually making one by taking something out of context. To those of us who have more than middle school education, you've officially just made yourself look like an idiot. Congrats!!!

And please don't pass up my offer on giving you free coins!!!!! I wasn't joking. But if you pass I understand. You'd only validate what the hell I said. Stupid.
I'll take the coins, thanks.

Bet. And drum roll waiting for your response....


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 06, 2014, 12:16:15 PM
You've got to be pretty dense to somehow assume you know what level of education I achieved. I have enough education to know that you don't need to put 3-5 exclamation points on the end of your sentences. Stupid.

LOL!!!!! <--- You can't be for real. It was for lots of emphasis, but without the yelling. OMG, you must still be in school? Makes sense. Regardless, you just proved my point again that you don't have much comprehension.

Are you stupid? You're turning down free coins!

Your immature behavior along with your overuse of exclamation marks makes you look like you're either stupid or in high school. Only a teenage girl would use "LOL!!!!!". And I'm comprehending you fine, but your attitude and the way you conduct yourself is baffling.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 06, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
You've got to be pretty dense to somehow assume you know what level of education I achieved. I have enough education to know that you don't need to put 3-5 exclamation points on the end of your sentences. Stupid.
LOL!!!!! <--- You can't be for real. It was for lots of emphasis, but without the yelling. OMG, you must still be in school? Makes sense. Regardless, you just proved my point again that you don't have much comprehension.

Are you stupid? You're turning down free coins!
Your immature behavior along with your overuse of exclamation marks makes you look like you're either stupid or in high school. Only a teenage girl would use "LOL!!!!!". And I'm comprehending you fine, but your attitude and the way you conduct yourself is baffling.

Oh my. The way I 'conduct' myself is baffling (impossible to understand; perplexing) to you is because your brain isn't mature enough to grasp how your rebuttals make no sense. Prove me wrong.

.03 btc will be awarded to you right now if you take me up on my challenge....... <---- look, ellipsis!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 06, 2014, 12:52:20 PM
You've got to be pretty dense to somehow assume you know what level of education I achieved. I have enough education to know that you don't need to put 3-5 exclamation points on the end of your sentences. Stupid.
LOL!!!!! <--- You can't be for real. It was for lots of emphasis, but without the yelling. OMG, you must still be in school? Makes sense. Regardless, you just proved my point again that you don't have much comprehension.

Are you stupid? You're turning down free coins!
Your immature behavior along with your overuse of exclamation marks makes you look like you're either stupid or in high school. Only a teenage girl would use "LOL!!!!!". And I'm comprehending you fine, but your attitude and the way you conduct yourself is baffling.

Oh my. The way I 'conduct' myself is baffling (impossible to understand; perplexing) to you is because your brain isn't mature enough to grasp how your rebuttals make no sense. Prove me wrong.

.03 btc will be awarded to you right now if you take me up on my challenge....... <---- look, ellipsis!

Congratulations on being able to google the definitions of words. My "rebuttals" must not make sense to you because of your underdeveloped mind. Your continued immaturity is rather baffling and is on display for all to see. And I'm not sure exactly what I'm rebutting here, but I have continually pointed out your petulant behavior and yet your response is to counteract that with more of the same, so well done.

And yet again you continue to show your ignorance and immaturity with the overuse of ellipses. You use grammar like an overexcited highschooler..... LOL!!!!!

http://thewritepractice.com/how-to-use-an-ellipsis-correctly/


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on February 06, 2014, 04:25:23 PM
And yet again you continue to show your ignorance and immaturity with the overuse of ellipses. You use grammar like an overexcited highschooler..... LOL!!!!!

http://thewritepractice.com/how-to-use-an-ellipsis-correctly/

I ignored lucky chris after reading his first reply to a comment by me.

Do the same.
Lucky Chris has issues.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 06, 2014, 11:10:29 PM
Quote
Summary - hyphymikey   Picture/Text
Name:   hyphymikey
Posts:   357
Activity:   336
Position:   Sr. Member
Date Registered:   February 01, 2013, 01:19:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 02:52:00 AM

Well-played!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 07, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
And yet again you continue to show your ignorance and immaturity with the overuse of ellipses. You use grammar like an overexcited highschooler..... LOL!!!!!
http://thewritepractice.com/how-to-use-an-ellipsis-correctly/
I ignored lucky chris after reading his first reply to a comment by me.
Do the same.
Lucky Chris has issues.
Hi Priest! You finally got something you think you can rag on me with, huh? I suppose I do have issues. Issue being: I'm now convinced we really are getting dumber. Over 500 posts with less than 20 examples of punctuation overuse, and the day I exaggerated its use (yes, the arrows were to tease), people just can't get enough of it.

Interesting how the mundane distracts from the message, isn't it? People would rather focus on the level/type of emphasis a person place on their words, rather than the content itself. Here we are - in a digital age where emoticons, memes and acronyms so long they're words by themselves, is okay. As long as whatever you convey remains flat (evidently it's a crime to express attitude in written words).   

And what an epic failure on both of you guys' posts. You're taunting me for expressing attitude in an otherwise toneless (written words) environment - citing grammar use articles when both of your posts contain at least two each! And different ones at that, not just punctuation! Now who looks stupid? Sigh. I can't even believe I'm still entertaining this, but I'll try one more time, give you an opportunity to understand...

Short, fun exercise for you two. But first a warning: It's going to provoke the firing of electricity in parts of your brain that probably hasn't been activated in a long time. It might feel a slight tingle, okay? Here we go!

Think of something - anything. Now, react to it using the word Seriously (it helps if you say it out loud). Allow for a moment to absorb what you said. With your knowledge of punctuation, try to incorporate the expression verbally. Remember, you're responding to something in this exercise.

Seriously.
Seriously?
Seriously!

Standard interpretation/reaction. Nothing about the response gives you anymore information than the obvious. Now, do the same here:

1) Seriously...
2) Seriously???
3) Seriously!!!

Did you hear/recognize the difference? I'll go first. Scenario I thought of: I opened an old archived bitcoin address and unexpectedly found 2.0078BTC.

My reaction/response to 1-3 above (remember the word has to be coupled with the expression). I won't tell you all, just enough so you can get the picture.

1) Hand up to my mouth in the 'thinking' position. I feel like I'm lost in thought for a second.
2) Wide 50 cent piece sized eyes, raised eyebrows, mouth wide open. I feel like this is unbelievable.
3) Jumped out of my chair with excitement. Laughing out loud. I feel like I just hit the lottery.

Now you try! You can even mix them up - have fun. What was your reaction to: Seriously?!?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on February 07, 2014, 04:50:18 AM
This user is currently ignored.

Like I said, The kid has issues.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 05:00:23 AM
this would be a nice example


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: gogxmagog on February 07, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
80 btc? pffft ...if you wanna lose some serious btc try the securities section.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Bit_Happy on February 07, 2014, 11:03:52 AM
You have internet access, so you are already better off than ~50% of the Billions of people on Earth.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on February 07, 2014, 05:01:57 PM
You have internet access, so you are already better off than ~50% of the Billions of people on Earth.

Let this kids pitiful thread die already.
He had a issue, he is past it.
This entire thread is probably embarrassing to him.

On a related note, we are lucky to have clean running water too.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on February 08, 2014, 02:05:20 PM
You're not expecting people to donate to 'save your life' now are you..?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: CrayjeksAjek on February 08, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
I killed myself once before and it sucks on the other side as well. Its better for this stuff to happen naturally so Im making the best out of this world even though Im the son of a mother whom recently murdered his only sister because she thought "Jehovah had to have her" and says the devil impregnated her with his seed and I was born as a result.

And here I am mining BTC and altcoins.

Do what you must, just make sure whatever you choose isnt for stupid, insignificant reasons.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on February 11, 2014, 10:38:49 PM
Living in misery sucks marginally less than dying in it.
We all have bad beats that we'll never forget.
Suck it up and get back on the fucking horse.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Taras on February 12, 2014, 01:09:24 AM
 Lock this, op, you will recover. Don't let yourself die over something as measly as money.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Dafar on February 12, 2014, 01:49:22 AM
Your life is worth much more than a measly $80k


That depends


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: angrynerd88 on February 12, 2014, 01:22:17 PM
if you kill yourself, tell that to the media, so they will talk about bitcoin in a negative way, price will go down and i will be able to buy something. Thanks. I will pray for you after your departure in the case. Bye bye or...adieu  :)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Mythul on February 12, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Don't do it. BTC is not worth it. Just buy one and move on with your life. Your life is much much much more that $100k.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Gogreen on February 13, 2014, 08:01:56 AM
how did u end up losses by trading btc?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: sickhouse on February 13, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
On your suicide thoughts; http://www.gabrielhummel.com/2011/03/11/feeling-suicidal-the-world-is-your-oyster/ do whatever the fuck you want wherever the fuck you want :)

I think you wouln't be the first, my guess is that several gox ppl already done it... or the guys who bought at $1k and then lost half their shit, paniced or w/e. It's not like it will say in the news "Bitcoin suicuide, it will just be say suicide".



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: jongameson on February 13, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
that's just what the BTCeastcoin wants you to do.  don't fall into the trap


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitkanu on February 13, 2014, 03:20:27 PM
that's just what the BTCeastcoin wants you to do.  don't fall into the trap

bitcoin makes some ppl freak here :P with daily up and down in prices.. :p


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Rawted on February 13, 2014, 04:10:01 PM
80 btc? pffft ...if you wanna lose some serious btc try the securities section.
LMAO, so true. Those poor guys ignore all the people telling them not to do it, then blindly stick up for the company for months until it's all crumbled. It's quite sad.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: josephliton on February 13, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
As suicide requires a willful attempt to die, some feel it therefore cannot be said to occur in non-human animals. ::)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 13, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
On your suicide thoughts; http://www.gabrielhummel.com/2011/03/11/feeling-suicidal-the-world-is-your-oyster/ do whatever the fuck you want wherever the fuck you want :)

Generally, I think seriously depressed people lose the will to do anything, so I don't know where they'll get the motivation to go crazy and yolo themselves.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: bitpop on February 13, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
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Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: sawani on February 20, 2014, 11:18:06 PM
"The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all your money."--Anonymous
I seriously doubt you are worth less than what you have lost.
Would love to hear from you...


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: koplea on February 21, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
On your suicide thoughts; http://www.gabrielhummel.com/2011/03/11/feeling-suicidal-the-world-is-your-oyster/ do whatever the fuck you want wherever the fuck you want :)

Generally, I think seriously depressed people lose the will to do anything, so I don't know where they'll get the motivation to go crazy and yolo themselves.

Yeah there's 0 motivation even sex. That's why a line of coke will give you a moment of motivation
agree


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Kaligulax on February 24, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
are you still live?
do you still have some BTC?
Money is nothing.... Not worth a human life


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Kiki112 on February 24, 2014, 11:26:52 AM
are you still live?
do you still have some BTC?
Money is nothing.... Not worth a human life

life > money

food = money

if (food=0; life=false)

life=money  :-\

you need money to live, people kill for money because they can't make a living, they can't feed their families or themselves and they need to eat  :-\


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: beegatewood on February 24, 2014, 03:56:00 PM
people kill for money. So money is important somehow..


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: UltraPleb on February 24, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
Recent posts wouldn't suggest so, Atlas is that you?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: serje on February 24, 2014, 05:30:34 PM
Are you still alive?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: RodeoX on February 24, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
You mentioned you can't afford to live anymore. You should check the price on what it costs to die these days.
But seriously suicide is almost never a sensible answer. You are guaranteeing that you will never have another good day.  Even in the worst of times you can expect that there is a chance of things turning around. If instead of having your money jacked it had gone to-da-moon, you would realize what little money can do compared with love, friendship, and the riches of the mind.
Hold those life coins!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: ZephramC on February 24, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
Give hyphymikey a break. He is online, posting and thus most probably alive.
Dont worry, just be happy that we have not lost a Bitcoiner. ;)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on February 25, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
Give hyphymikey a break. He is online, posting and thus most probably alive.
Dont worry, just be happy that we have not lost a Bitcoiner. ;)
Hah, I don't think anyone actually expected him to follow through with it,
the point of this thread was more to get sympathy I'd guess. :>


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: E.exchanger on March 19, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
If you live you cam make double of what you have lost again or maybe more so you better decide and suicide is what cowards do !! so never be one  :)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: jodybay on March 20, 2014, 04:22:42 PM
geezz man stand up and show that you got some balls to get on your feet again
life is not what you've always think you need to struggle sometimes in order to be strong and wise
suicide is for some hopeless person only however that is the last resort because even hopeless person still fight in order to live
be man enough

duhh


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on March 22, 2014, 09:54:47 AM
geezz man stand up and show that you got some balls to get on your feet again
life is not what you've always think you need to struggle sometimes in order to be strong and wise
suicide is for some hopeless person only however that is the last resort because even hopeless person still fight in order to live
be man enough

duhh
Check when post was created. Either OP killed himself or got his life back on track. Your post is late and useless.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on March 23, 2014, 12:43:33 AM
Get yourself taped while doing that i would be fun to watch a dickhead dyeing cuz looser commits suicide
Hey hey, keep it clean in here. No need for keyboard warriors to spew
out their own insecurities and sadness as human beings on this forum.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 2tights on March 26, 2014, 06:22:28 PM
Get yourself taped while doing that i would be fun to watch a dickhead dyeing cuz looser commits suicide
Hey hey, keep it clean in here. No need for keyboard warriors to spew
out their own insecurities and sadness as human beings on this forum.

And there it is, the scum of the earth at it again. Unfortunately, you can count on trolls popping up everywhere. These poor, unfortunate souls thinks it's everyone else who are the morons. LoL... Very sad.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on March 27, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Get yourself taped while doing that i would be fun to watch a dickhead dyeing cuz looser commits suicide
Hey hey, keep it clean in here. No need for keyboard warriors to spew
out their own insecurities and sadness as human beings on this forum.

And there it is, the scum of the earth at it again. Unfortunately, you can count on trolls popping up everywhere. These poor, unfortunate souls thinks it's everyone else who are the morons. LoL... Very sad.
You have to expect to see them on internet forums, though. Sadly.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on March 28, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The OP Posted this two months ago.
He was being a winey little bitch.
He was active on these forums today.

He is alive, Don't keep giving him the attention he so clearly wanted.

...
If you are not serious, stop crying like a little b.

The old saying put up or shut up applies here.


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: counter on March 28, 2014, 08:20:11 PM
Maybe you should post find out what you did wrong and make a blog about it?  someone might find you info useful and tip you or you might find you enjoy blogging and give you something to do other then feeling suicidal.

To the previous poster I read the topic so I'm gonna post on it, heh. 8)


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 7Priest7 on March 29, 2014, 04:46:58 AM
To the previous poster I read the topic so I'm gonna post on it, heh. 8)

STOP POSTING!!!

The people who think they have useful things to say keep a two month old post senselessly alive.
You guys are just beating a dead dog(or living cry baby in this case.) It's pointless.
Hopefully you guys will see this post and quit feeding this cry baby attention.

STOP POSTING!!!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on March 30, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
To the previous poster I read the topic so I'm gonna post on it, heh. 8)

STOP POSTING!!!

The people who think they have useful things to say keep a two month old post senselessly alive.
You guys are just beating a dead dog(or living cry baby in this case.) It's pointless.
Hopefully you guys will see this post and quit feeding this cry baby attention.

STOP POSTING!!!
What? Did he kill himself? Omg I'll send him some money, did he post his wallet address?
Is this topic still alive?


:D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Leogheo on March 30, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
hyphymikey , don't do this! Suicide is not the decision of the problems!
Despite every fails you should be strong and go on , and don't give up as there is always someone who needs you and there is something you can begin to do !
Just don't give up!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on March 30, 2014, 11:03:42 PM
Yeah don't do this! Suicide is never the answer, life goes on!
Seriously guys read the thread and stop this madness. :D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: 2tights on April 14, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
Hey man, just flow in the river of happiness and mental health, bro.

And post your Dogecoin wallet address so I can send you 100 DGC!!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Kiki112 on April 14, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Hey man, just flow in the river of happiness and mental health, bro.

And post your Dogecoin wallet address so I can send you 100 DGC!!

don't think 0.044$ will help him a lot :D


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
Hey man, just flow in the river of happiness and mental health, bro.

And post your Dogecoin wallet address so I can send you 100 DGC!!
Omg, I'll also take my life unless I get 100 Doge!
Too bad I don't have an address.

:(



Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: Taras on April 16, 2014, 01:43:12 AM
To the previous poster I read the topic so I'm gonna post on it, heh. 8)

STOP POSTING!!!

The people who think they have useful things to say keep a two month old post senselessly alive.
You guys are just beating a dead dog(or living cry baby in this case.) It's pointless.
Hopefully you guys will see this post and quit feeding this cry baby attention.

STOP POSTING!!!


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 16, 2014, 02:16:52 AM
Over 80 physical coins stolen in October, and 15 lost margin trading in December.

Margin trading bitcoin was foolish indeed given bitcoin's pattern of wild volatility. What in the world made you think that was a good idea?


Title: Re: First bitcoin related suicide?
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 04:53:31 PM
To the previous poster I read the topic so I'm gonna post on it, heh. 8)

STOP POSTING!!!

The people who think they have useful things to say keep a two month old post senselessly alive.
You guys are just beating a dead dog(or living cry baby in this case.) It's pointless.
Hopefully you guys will see this post and quit feeding this cry baby attention.

STOP POSTING!!!
Why have I never seen this gif before? It's absolutely hilarious. Oh, sorry for posting again, I couldn't resist.