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Watching!!!

I didn't understand,  what is the target for soft cap? 20000000 Euro?  Very little information about this platform in ann.....

New idea. Im waiting for more info.

Hi Zossia! As we are a true utility token under German regulations and already have a working basic product our future development is based on we do not require a softcap. The 20M EUR is our target which allows us to execute our whole roadmap as planned.

Does that answer your question?

You have long been looking for something like this, then I can advise you only just it :'( :'(

 I already found your project a bit fishy. (Scam Detection?) Thanks to the collaboration with the untrustworthy Amateurs from Savedroid, you have set yourself aside. I do not even want your token as a gift.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

anything to do with Savedroid is dodgy.......I will pass on this one for sure!

coinanalyst.tech = savedroid.com

Do not participate in coinanalyst ICO.  It's the same of SVD. We all lost our money in SVD.  4 Months passed and still there is not any exchange.  STAY AWAY FROM COY.


Made in Germany, Same pattern, Same token supply, Same price, Same team, ....

They just want more money.

Look at their website.  Also check the price chart   ;D ;D  They are so stupid. All things are same.

Stay away from COY and SVD



For  COY followers,  read this topic (at least  last 15 pages):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2578161.3360

To international investors:
I strongly recommend to not participate in this ICO. The whitepaper is in parts a plagarism of the Savedroid whitepaper and the project cooperates with Savedroid. That alone should be a warning. Everyone should know what has happened with Savedroid recently. If you do not want to lose money, stay away from it.

Besides of the obvious plagiarism of the Savedroi-Whitepaper - while already that is bad btw, there is an additional strong sign that these "AI-experts" don't give a shit about logical consistency.

Let's take a look at the Incentive-model. The first part is a copy paste of Savedroid, including the famous "vitalik-says-so-line".

Then comes the "Additionally (...)":

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Whitepaper:

Value and strategy

Our users will be required to purchase all used crypto services within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem using COY. Our token has a built-in deflation mechanism as suggested by Vitalik Buterin (https://vitalik.ca/general/2017/10/17/moe.html). Once a CoinAnalyst token has been used for a purchase within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem, we will collect his CoinAnalyst tokens and burn a certain percentage of these tokens to support the future value of the tokens. CoinAnalyst will inform about the current burn rate on its website. Additionally, we will support the tokens’ value by repurchasing tokens (buyback) with 20% of CoinAnalyst’s profits until we have 1,000,000,000 COY in our Wallet. In other words, a percentage of the CoinAnalyst crypto service fees will automatically be removed from the pool of available COYs by every single purchase. Below the line, this will support the future value of the CoinAnalyst token.

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First: That idea is from Binance ("Every quarter, we will use 20% of our profits to buy back BNB and destroy them (...)").
That's not the problem. The problem is: Binance collects fees and makes profit in all kinds of assets. But CoinAnalyst will collect fees only in COY:

"(...) all used crypto services within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem using COY"


Then they say that they will additionally use that profit to buy back COY.
Will they first sell all what they've collcted to have real profit and take 20% of that profit to buy back COY? Why not simply keep 20% and burn that? Ah damn, that's already included - since they say, like Savedroid, they would simply burn "a certain percentage".

Practically it wouldn't make any sense what they say there, because they don't get the difference between an ecosystem like Binance and their own. But they wanted an additional incentive to blind unexperienced Investors without even thinking about it for 5 minutes.


What do we have here:

1) They copied a lot of a project that is shady as fuck, including the fact that they don't say how much of the collected fees they will burn but "a certain percentage"
2) They add a few lines that make zero sense, but clearly show what this is about - to blind unexperienced Investors, to tell them "this will have value!"


The partnership with Savedroid is a perfect match. Both projects: Smoke and Mirrors.

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Just btw: Even the document one can download, their "revenue-model", is from Savedroid. They didn't even change the "hospital-green":



https://i.imgur.com/ks18yP6.png

I am not fan of ICOs
but I am watching this one !

It can have real use case,
not like most of the other 'crypto products'

https://newsletter.coinanalyst.tech/resources/bitcointalk/180623-1/180623-1-official-statement_2x.jpg



Hi everyone!

Here is our statement on the various points of criticism. (We are looking forward to constructive feedback.)

Please read it and make your assumptions based on these facts and get into a discussion with us.

CoinAnalyst is a spin-off of Cogia GmbH from Frankfurt, Germany. Cogia GmbH exists since 2010, with a track record of more than 7 years of intensive development, numerous awards and Fortune 500 customers.

We are familiar with crowdfunding and the like: At the beginning of 2017, we successfully completed a crowd investing via the well-established Companisto crowd investing platform (companisto.com) with almost 1000 investors who have been watching us very closely ever since. Lots of its investors now also support CoinAnalyst already!


savedroid

We know savedroid. We believe in the future of their products – and we don't let plain PR stunts distract us.

The solutions of CoinAnalyst and savedroid complement each other extremely well and has great synergies. This can only be in the interests of all investors! If you want to make "Cryptocurrencies for everyone" possible, you also need "Understanding Cryptocurrencies".

Every savedroid customer needs CoinAnalyst. And every CoinAnalyst receives an easy way to get crypto coins with savedroid. The synergy of the products is obvious – that's why a product partnership like this makes sense. If you don't think so, please let us know why.


Whitepaper

Our whitepaper is almost 30 pages long. Yes, we took some of the paragraphs from Savedroid, because they just make sense. We asked Savedroid for permission. We thought about how we could create more value for our supporters and COY traders – and we looked for the best practices for the COY.

Besides Savedroid as a source of inspiration we also learned from Binance. We got some feedback about the combination of the burning model and the buyback program, but we make it clear how this model works for us. CoinAnalyst is a profit-oriented company – so as soon as we make profits from the sale of our product, the traders also profit from it.

Finally, we chose Token Hodl Discounts, which were also not used by savedroid.


COY and CoinAnalyst in focus

We would be pleased if you continue to follow our development and take a deep look at anything we do! We will continue to respond transparently and adjust if there is justified feedback.

We hope you support our mission to make cryptocurrencies more transparent and trading more secure, by using artificial intelligence and our big data analysis technologies.

Your team of CoinAnalyst

coinanalyst.tech = LEGIT PROJECT

Do your own research!


All I can see does not sound like a scam project, Ulrikehans. Just because they do a product partnership with soondroid, it doesn't have to be bad or even a scam.

And from what I see CoinAnalyst is indeed independent. You can take a look at the commercial register, the videos on Facebook, google for Cogia / cogia intelligence etc., also check out all the twitter channel where its founder is quite active. Please do differenciated research! :)

What do you think, Ulrikehans?

He he he...
Thanks for your joke.  I just wonder, How many accounts you have in bitcointalk?
CoinAnalystTech, tabson2, savedroid, hankir1 hankir2 hankir99,... and some new accounts like "Luzieluzie"
And same for reddit.

lol this is another ico scam from savedroid scamer
don't invest in it

Savedroid = coinanalyst.tech
Savedroid = scam
that mean coinanalyst.tech = scam

At least Savedroid gives it all to hype this:

SECURE YOUR 30% #COY #BONUS #TOKEN NOW 👉http://bit.ly/SecureCOYBonusNow … 💰
#CoinAnalystICO #PreSale already >50% sold out‼️🔚🚀

💪#savedroid & @CoinAnalystTech join forces to enhance #AI-based #crypto #ecosystem http://bit.ly/SVDandCOYjoinForces …
 
#savedroidICO #SVD #cryptocurrency #TokenSale
https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1010890039746859008

Savedroid also use The maildresses from ICO as Plattform to advertise The CoinAnalyst ICO (with ref-link)

That's really bad and I don't just mean "it looks bad" but it's not right in an objective way. Even if we would assume that both are legit projects (my opinion is not that tbh) it would not be right out of several reasons:

It's not wrong of course that projects go into partnerships and announce that. But the Savedroid-team goes much further, uses direkt contacts and all social platforms to promote the CoinAnalyst ICO and gives Investment-advices to their own Community. And even if we would say that it's not a problem in a legal way - what I'm unsure about because Savedroid is no PR-firm and no Investment-Advisory: How can that be right? How can they be sure that it's good for their own community to buy into Coinanalyst (while their own Investors are still waiting to get their SVD-tokens unlocked and traded on exchange)?

Savedroid obviously didn't ask the following questions:

1. What justifies the high total COY-value of 37.5 million Euro (= $44 million)? Otherwise, why would they think about it since they wanted and got even more?

2. What does it say about the Coinanalyst-team that they copy whole sections of another Whitepaper (Savedroids)?

3. What does it say about a team that copies a whole ICO-concept, from a price-prediction-chart to a spreadsheet, the "made-in-germany-brand" like Savedroid etc.?

4. What does it say about a project that also tries to include the "Binance-model" while obviously not understanding that Binance is different? Binance can buy own tokens back and burn them with profit because they make a shitload of profit in all kinds of different assets. Coinanalyst can not do that because they'll make profit (if they will) only in COY - how will they use those COY to buy back COY? First sell to have BTC and then buy back? Doesn't make any sense. It's just an additional incentive to blind people. Just that is in fact a red flag and it's a big one, because if a team doesn't really think about their own economical model...................


There is more but the point is: Savedroid gives it all to push their own Investors into this while they can not be sure that Coinanalyst will turn out as a good project. And they not only know that Coinanalyst copied a lot of stuff from Savedroid. They try to sell that as strength! And they do all this marketing for "another" project while not delivering on own promises. Their own token is still locked, they still didn't come up with the infamous top5-exchange that was announced back in March and they still didn't manage to get out of the "Scammer-corner" they've put themselves into with their stupid PR-Stunt.


I really don't get the stupidity of these two projects. Coinanalyst should have known that it can not be a good idea to copy stuff from Savedroid. It can not be a good idea to copy stuff from any project, and they don't even think about it all. And Savedroid should've known that it can not be right to promote the ICO of another project. Scammers do that and I would make a bet that Savedroid gets a percentage of the ICO-money or whatever their deal might be. Both projects have a lot in common: They place tons of superficial incentives to lure mostly unexperienced ppl into giving them money. Under the line and in a weird way it's a perfect fit for them. I just doubt that they'll ever be able to build win-win-situations for their Investors.

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Edit and just btw: Two weeks ago or so I was kicked out of the german Savedroid-Channel because I pointed on the fact that they've never told their own Investors how much of the fees they'll burn. They just say "a certain percentage" (Coinanalyst copied also that). I didn't insult anybody, I wasn't personal, I discussed on topic and even replied on an Admin.

Yesterday I was kicked out of the official/english Savedroid-channel because I posted the Whitepaper-comparison and discussed with Tobias (from Savedroid) and asked some questions.

What I want to say is: For Savedroid it's enough to have and ask questions. Once they feel that somebody will not let them get away with their bs they censor.

My last post as a reply on a post of Tobias who said "Actually a lot of whitepapers are written after the ico is planned ;)" was this:

"right. a lot of shady projects do it that way. quality projects often have different whitepaper-versions that are improved many months or even years before they ask for money. and just btw: what do you believe will a legit exchange think about it if they see 1) that coinanalyst copied whole sections of the savedroid-paper and 2) savedroid promotes exactly that? good luck with that"

Result: Delete and Exit ;-)

Agreed!

Result: DELETE and Exit :-*

lots of savedroid worry.... what does partnership actually mean for this project?

what are you gaining

Through this project there are a big hope from every investors.
Hopefully there will be no more scam occur after being filtered by this kind of project.

are watching this project day by day. do not know it well no people

Hello Hugs,

The products of CoinAnalyst and savedroid complement each other extremely well. The goal is to allow every CoinAnalyst user an easy way to get crypto coins with savedroid and every savedroid user gains the analysis insight of CoinAnalyst.

We announced our partnership because we believe in the future of their product, as did 35,000+ people a few months ago.

You only give recommendations or what happens if one of your analyses is completely wrong and people lose money on a scam?

Lol so many scam icos today you are partners with savedroid that has a bad reputation in the community? Where in this world you can find this kind of project where its almost months have passed and still no exchange? well only in savedroid and Im sure your coin also will have same strategy collect more money and delay exchanges within 1 year, what a shame on this people.

Yes. Also they accept Paypal.  So paypal investors can not get their token till 6 months. He he..

This is a very questionable event to copy the materials of another project, especially with a dubious reputation. Guys apparently you still have some time to think on it.

Team members have extensive prior experience in relevant industries like business development and artificial intelligence and big data. These skills are scarce and highly valued when developing something like CoinAnalyst.

In a later step you can select if you want that we send the COY to your myetherwallet or if you want to pay with them our Software. We will inform you by e-mail when the time will come.

Your ICO is now listed on www.betaico.com


http://betaico.com/coinanalyst


Please feel free to visit this page and discuss.

Cool, Thank you  ;)

I read that i need to adjust myetherwallet to display the tokens there. Is this true or will they appear with the lapse of time?

You can adjust them manually or you can wait when MyEtherWallet make it automatically.
Not every Token will listed automatically on MEW, but most of them ;D  

6 months? Why will tokens for people who pay with PayPal be locked for 6 months?

Thank you ; We're always give our best to bring this project to success  ;)

Dont touch this scammer project

Coinanalyst+savedroid = SCAM

Same scammer team different project name

Sorry, Unfortunately I have to tell you that neither Savedroid nor CoinAnalyst are a scam.


!!! PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH !!!

- CoinAnalyst Team -

Token which were paid with PayPal are NOT locked for 6 Months.

This is a fake information  ;)


- CoinAnalyst team -

Congrats for completing the Pre-ICO! Am I right that the 2000 ETH investment coming from ShareRing is counted in? 
How do you finance the 2000 ETH? Will this be money from your investors forwarded to ShareRing? What are you doing if you are not raising 2000 ETH in total? (or do you have already 2000 ETH raised?)

Hi ; Thank you  :D

CoinAnalyst and ShareRing swap tokens worth 2000 ETH.
They invested in us token worth 2000 ETH and we invested in them token worth 2000 ETH.

Hope this helps you to understand the last update :)


- CoinAnalyst team -

There is indeed many low quality or even scam coins available in the market, selecting them between all those coins can be frustrating.
With the help of  CoinAnalyst that should be easier to choose which is the best coins of all.

No, not really. Considering you sold 187.5 Mio COYs in the Pre-Sale including 30% bonus, means you sold tokens worth approx. 1.7mUSD or 1.4mEUR, right? (please correct me if I misscalculated the bonus thing). Tokens worth 2000 ETH account for approx 90 Mio COYs or 122 Mio COYs including bonus of 30%, right? My question is now: where do these tokens come from? According your token distribution model on your website you don't have such large pools to fund that?

I would really appreciate more transparency about this funding.

I love this project because besides being unique, the team is very transparent and details the progress week after week congratulations!

I'm wondering how long it takes the team to provide an answer regarding my question.  ???

Not so long. In the moment we are very busy in every way. Sorry for that ...

We reserved 5% of all tokens for the presale.
That means all bonuses plus investments total are the 5%.

- CoinAnalyst team -

This is really a great project. And it's surely going you take over the world of cryptocurrency.

This is going to depend on how many participants join in the airdrop. Rewards are going to be calculated based on points at the end of the campaign.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams


According to the study, total funding of coins and tokens in 2017 amounted to $11.9 billion. $1.34 billion (11 percent) of ICO funding went to scams, the vast majority went to three large scammy projects; Pincoin ($660 million), Arisebank ($600 million), and Savedroid ($50 million), which together equal $1.31 billion. This suggests that while a large number of ICOs were scams, they received very little funding when compared with the industry as a whole.


CoinAnalyst = Savedroid

As someone who has been dealing in the crypto field for over six years and has invested in many ICOs, I can say that Coinalayst has many signs of a scam. The 2000 ETH swap is just to increase pre-sale success. Were the 2000 ETH actually transferred to each other or it just means: I reserve you 2000 ETH and you me, kinda like an inactive partner?

Ok I thought it could be as people can cancel a transaction still when the deal has been done can't they?

Are u sure?  ;D

You can cancel a PayPal trasaction thats right ... under certain circumstances ...

We removed PayPal payments and implemented bank transfer (wire transfer) for all European countries+ Switzerland !

- CoinAnalyst team -

CoinAnalyst ≠ Savedroid




!!! Do not believe in what others say. Please do your own research. Thank you !!!



- coinanalyst.tech (http://coinanalyst.tech) -

For sure we transfer / swap the token and of course we are not a scam.

- coinanalyst.tech (http://coinanalyst.tech) -

I had a look at the facebookpage of https://www.facebook.com/CoinAnalyst.tech (https://www.facebook.com/CoinAnalyst.tech). What i found strange is that the fan-page has a little below 1.000 Fans, however one of the last posts about the being covered by a big german news paper "FAZ"  has 625 likes, 740 shares and 170 comments.

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCoinAnalyst.tech%2Fposts%2F243533023114195&width=500"

Reading through the comments i find three things to be very strange:
1. Although the article is in German there is not one German comment below.
2. The tenor of all comments is excessively positive. I work a lot with social media and this user interaction is not common on facebook, where negative users are usually more engaging and willing to comment than positive users.
3. I had a look at about 30 users, which commented below the facebook post. Nearly all of the them are at the friends-max level of 5000, but they have uploaded pictures and post even though they usually have no interaction on their post.

For me this looks very strange and dubious. Could anyone of the CoinAnalyst team or anyone else explain this to me. Are these real profiles? How come that the tenor of these comments is exclusively and excessively positve? Did CoinAnalyst pay somene to receive these interactions?

I would like to understand this better. Thanks for help.
   
 

Are there any admins available to talk about the marketing for this project?

The project appeals to me, the platform provides unique analytical materials, crypto-related information channels and a constantly updated database for all crypto-currencies.The main thing that they realized it... And then they will be successful!

Hi ; please contact any admin via Telegram  ;)

https://t.me/CoinAnalyst (https://t.me/CoinAnalyst)

Thank you.


- CoinAnalyst Team -

Hi ; I think this helped you already :

https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinAnalyst/comments/90p8kt/dubious_interaction_on_coinanalyst_facebook_posts/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinAnalyst/comments/90p8kt/dubious_interaction_on_coinanalyst_facebook_posts/)

 ;)

- CoinAnalyst Team -

Thank you ; we really appreciate your support  :D

- CoinAnalyst Team -

Your project looks interesting and has good technical characteristics.

CoinAnalyst is a software system that enables any trader in the crypto asset sector and other industries to access a dashboard which monitors and analyses real-time data from the crypto and ICO market

CoinAnalyst is based on the patented Cogia technology which uses semantic indexing and structuring of online data using pattern recognition and artificial intelligence.

Hey CoinAnalyst team. I am representing one of the biggest YouTube channels(3.2M) in Russia. We are interested in collaboration with your project. We provide any proofs. Is there anyone I can discuss the details with? Thanks

On what exchanges will the dadi token be tradable after the ico? What is your strategy on this party. Thanks

Please contact @seimen007 on telegram and visit our telegram channel (https://t.me/CoinAnalyst).

Thank you.


- CoinAnalyst team -

Of course COY will be listed on exchanges after the ICO.
We will announce our partners officially on our social media like twitter (https://twitter.com/CoinAnalystTech)
Stay tuned  ;)


-CoinAnalyst team -

I also found the project attractive, if everything goes according to the plans as described in the road map,the CoinAnalyst team has all the chances to win success and enter the leading position in the market.I wish You success.

Hey CoinAnalyst team. I am representing one of the biggest YouTube channels(3.2M) in Russia. We are interested in collaboration with your project. We provide any proofs. Is there anyone I can discuss the details with? Thanks

Hi, you can discuss with "onemillionusd99" here on bitcointalk.org  :-*

- coinanalyst.tech (http://coinanalyst.tech) -

Thank you, we really appreciate that. Stay tuned  ;)

- CoinAnalyst team -

Alpha registration is live now !

https://www.coinanalyst.tech/pages/testing/first-round/ (https://www.coinanalyst.tech/pages/testing/first-round/)

In all honesty, I believe that it is hard to find a project such as this one – maximized trading profits, built-in scam protection, the whole nine yards
If you're skeptical, don't be – I feel that CoinAnalyst is going to make us some serious money down the road

Modeling revenue streams and token price growth in a detailed manner is a fantastic way of showing your potential investors how the business will likely develop. :o

Partnership with Savedroid is harmful to this project, I think you guys made a big mistake by doing so

I agree.The platform really is a good helper in solving many problems of any crypto trader.I believe that this project will be in demand,because it is a really necessary idea in the blockchain technology.

Can anyone explain what the goal of this project is and if they have the potential of reaching that goal. And what will be the starting price of this ico?

Hi ;
I would recommend you to read the whitepaper first, because there is written down everything around and about the project ;
If you have questions after reading this you can ask the community and the admins in our offcial Telegram group ;)
The current price is 0,01€ and 5% bonus in September.

- coinanalyst.tech (http://coinanalyst.tech) -

the more days the Coinanalyst project continues to grow expanding its popularity in the crypto world which is full of competition. I want to congratulate Coinanalyst for having made a collaboration with trade.io which also includes a crypto project that we must follow and have good potential development in the future.
here is the article that I read on Linkedin

Trade.io in partnership With Coinanalyst (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6442671955631013888)

the concept of the project is interesting and very useful for traders, but crypto analysis projects like this seem to have already appeared a lot. Hopefully carrying innovation and more advanced technology will attract the attention of many investors to support the CoinAnalyst project.

The company has 7 years experience in developing Big Data Analytics technologies, with Fortune 500 clients so they have proven themselves in the past.

Big data, AI and trading have become synonymous in the last couple of years, and it makes sense for a company with a large, established presence in some or all of these markets to enter the crypto trading world.

This project has merit, and with a strong, established an cohesive team, backed by some critical thinkers as advisors, they have the recipe on paper.

So what exactly is the definition of a scam? for me if your token is not registered in a big market, it has become a scam category, because it is very detrimental to investors  :)

Pivoting from conventional tech to Blockchain is a great strategy for a company in this stage of their journey, and I look forward to seeing the roll-out.

The team from germany gives good credibility to the project. Vision is also detailed how it is going to benefit to their targeted customers. The product seems promising. Good luck guys.

Thank you for the positive vibes, guys !  :D

- coinanalyst.tech (http://coinanalyst.tech) -

I love to much AI and big data analysis, this is Everything crypto market is need. I like that jurisdiction of the project is based in Germany. This is another good point for investors.

Meet CoinAnalyst and Cogia at HUAWEI CONNECT 2018 !

https://i.redd.it/ykpgvg622lo11.jpg


Event : https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/events/huaweiconnect2018

Fresh interview with ICO TV

-->  https://youtu.be/KUKtQzFW05I (https://youtu.be/KUKtQzFW05I)  <--


Check it out  ;)



- CoinAnalyst Team -

CoinAnalyst is the everything what is need in crypto world. Besides an existing company on big data - you will get a product almost ready, existing customer base and a wide range of partnership-opporuntied in a crypto space ie retail investors, funds etc.

Meet CoinAnalyst in Zürich at CRYPTO SUMMIT 2018 !

https://cryptosummit.smartvalor.com/home (https://cryptosummit.smartvalor.com/home)

https://i.redd.it/ermt05sf6mu11.jpg

#ico #crypto #summit #summer #2018

CoinAnalyst partnered with leading #Chinese #Trading Platform and #Blockchain Academy Xin Xin Finance
Sean our advisor and VP Bus Dev APAC went for us to sign this partnership with the
leading Chinese Blockchain academy and trading platform Xin Xin Finance :

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VUarubg7NJk4uzwYqpDyIA (https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VUarubg7NJk4uzwYqpDyIA)


- CoinAnalyst Team -

Meet CoinAnalyst and Cogia at DIGITAL2018 !


Event : https://www.digital18.de/
 (https://www.digital18.de/?lang=de)

Hey Coinanalyst, I'm surprised that you didn't announce your new relationship with Nexus Global here! Why?


News: CoinAnalyst ICO with exclusive benefits for Nexus Global members!
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@nexus.global/news-coinanalyst-ico-with-exclusive-benefits-for-nexus-global-members


And in this interesting video your CEO presents Coinanalyst for Nexus-Global:

NeXus Global Mega ICO CoinAnalyst English
https://youtu.be/-szZyNJHPOc

German version:
NeXus Global Mega ICO CoinAnalyst Deutsch
https://youtu.be/NSzyhOJ0Tgw

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Why don't you show this to the Crypto-Community?


What I think is quiet concerning:

1) The guy, Justino Soares, who posted the Nexus-Coinanalyst-Videos above, also promoted OneCoin. Just one of several examples:

ONELIFE ONECOIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22BWLYrL3RU


2) The CEO of Nexus Global, and he also shows up in the Coinanalyst-Videos above, is Christian Michel Scheibener.

Is it true that Christian Michel Scheibener also was or is involved in One-Life and OneCoin?


I ask because several pics on his Instagram-Page seem to indicate that:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLeqSU7DNvC/

And yes, it really turns out, he was a speaker on a OneLife-Conference:

Featured Speakers:
Christian Michel Scheibener and Andreas Szakacs, Jens Nocke and Uwe Rosin, Gerhard Schuster and Marcel Moyé, Sabine Gerl
https://www.onelifeevents.eu/en/events/onelife-event-berlin-germany


For those who may not know about OneCoin:


OneCoin is considered a Ponzi scheme, both due to its organisational structure and because of many of the people who are central to OneCoin have previously been involved in other similar Ponzi schemes.[5][6]

(...)

On 3 May 2018 the Central Bank of Samoa (CBS) banned all foreign exchange transactions related to OneCoin and OneLife.[14] The bank had earlier in March issued a warning about OneCoin.[15] CBS describes OneCoin as a very high risk pyramid scheme.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneCoin




3) As if that wouldn't be interesting enough:

Many may remember the weird headlines about Boris Beckers fake Passport last summer:

Boris Becker's diplomatic passport is a fake, says CAR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/19/boris-beckers-diplomatic-passport-is-a-fake-says-car


One guy who seemed to be involved: Stephan Welk

"A name appears again and again throughout Pass Posse around Becker: Prof. Dr. med. Stephan Welk An entrepreneur from Korbach, Hessen, Germany

(...)

According to information from BILD, Becker and Welk are known from London. Whether he has established contact between ZAR and Becker is not clear. One thing is certain: two months after the inauguration of Welk, Becker announced his new diplomatic work. Welk wrote to the joint photograph in front of the embassy in Brussels on Twitter: "Welcome to your new diplomatic office."
https://tech2.org/germany/wrath-for-a-diplomatic-card-what-does-er-have-to-do-with-beckers-passport-people/


(There is much more to find about him and Becker on German News-Sites).


Is it true that Stephan Welk also seems to be behind Nexus Global?


These articles seem to indicate that:

GLOBAL NEXUS, DR. STEPHAN WELK AND THE GERMAN RIGHT WING CONNECTION
https://fintelegram.news/global-nexus-dr-stephan-welk-and-the-german-right-wing-connection/

THE UNCOVERED NETWORK BEHIND NEXUS GLOBAL, ONECOIN, AND OPTIOMENT?
https://fintelegram.news/the-uncovered-network-behind-nexus-global-onecoin-and-optioment/


I wasn't sure if that is true, but this Nexus Global - Broschure also seems to verify that Mr Welk is or at least was involved  (clear picture on Page 6):
https://renatainvestorslounge.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/nexus_pracc88sentation_deutsch03_2018_kleiner-min.pdf



Who wants to read german sources:

INVESTORENWARNUNG: COINANALYST – DER ANGEBLICHE MEGA-ICO VON NEXUS GLOBAL
https://de.fintelegram.com/investorenwarnung-coinanalyst-der-angebliche-mega-ico-von-nexus-global/

IST DAS NEXUS GLOBAL KRYPTO-MLM-SYSTEM TATSÄCHLICH EIN NETZWERK AUS GANOVEN, HOCHSTAPLERN UND BERUFSVERBRECHERN?
https://de.fintelegram.com/ist-das-nexus-global-krypto-mlm-system-tatsaechlich-ein-netzwerk-aus-ganoven-hochstaplern-und-berufsverbrechern/

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My main question is:

Do you really believe it's smart to partner with these folks? Why? Your Savedroid-partnership isn't shady enough?

Who wants to be kicked out of the Coinanalyst Channel on Telegram: Just try to talk about what I mentioned above. It will work, I promise!  :D



Btw, what is really ironic and actually very funny:

In the english video for NEXUS the Coinanalyst-CEO describes how their system would detect Scams and give out a Scam-Alert. If I get it right it's actually quiet simple: It would search for social-network-activity, how folks are talking about a project, and if there would be an exceeding number of Scam-implications/accusations the system would give out Scam-Alerts. Right?


Now, let's think about Coinanalyst:

1) They started with a whitepaper and several parts are copied from the Savedroid-Whitepaper:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461332.msg40713572#msg40713572

Guys like me would consider plagiarism as a major red flag.


2) They also overtake the spread-sheet from Savedroid, just changed the fantasy-numbers:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461332.msg40713572#msg40713572

Not just that again they didn't care much about doing their homework themselves, also the numbers are weird. Not sure if the doc is still to find on their website, but I've downloaded it last summer. And just btw: They didn't even try to answer on questions about it.


3) Like Savedroid, they also included a "Demo-Chart" - and just btw, Savedroid is >90% below their Hype-Predictions. In any way it's very stupid to do something like that because whenever a Utility Token is promoted as "for-profit-Investment" it's actually not a Utility Token anymore, at least not if it's about US-law. And exchanges don't like to see projects hyping their tokens like that.


4) Now Coinanalyst partners with weird folks who are or were involved in the OneCoin-Scheme and maybe even worse.

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But, I have some serious questions that I actually wanted to ask on Telegram, but since you kicked me it seems you prefer me doing this more publicly, so let's try:

• Why did you start a partnership with Nexus-Global, what do you expect how they could be helpful?
• Did you know that several personalities of Nexus are or were involved in OneLife and OneCoin - Promotion?
• If yes, don't you think that could damage also your reputation?
• If no, how is it possible that you want to build a scam-alert-system while being unaware about stuff like OneCoin?
• Do you believe serious exchanges will list your token if you give a shit about reputation or do you believe stuff like mentioned above doesn't matter to them?
• If you check the clicks on the Coinanalyst-Nexus-Videos - it doesn't even seem to work out, right? The english version: 9 clicks - what do you expect from your Nexus-Partnership?
• Will you be transparent about the numbers, how much was sold to Nexus-Global and/or explain how that will work?

 

You saw everything right @tempus mate. I'm also confused by the numbers they write.
If this algorithm were real, some kind of exchange or rating agency would have bought them back long ago. But there are simply no such figures and I do not think that someone will be able to set up such an artificial intellect in the near future.

The more I think about this project, the more I start to believe that there is not much to find what is real. My theory is: This ICO is not really about Coinanalyst but the company behind: Cogia. The team is pretty much the same and Pascal Lauria is CEO of both. Cogia also did a crowdfunding in 2016 and got about 365k Euro and they were not profitable - Quote:

Bei der COIN ANALYST UG handelt es sich lt. White Paper des Projektes um ein Spin-off der Cogia GmbH. Einer Gesellschaft, die schon durchaus Erfahrung mit Crowdinvesting hat, wurde doch erst 2016 ein erfolgreiches Crowdinvesting auf der Plattform Companisto durchgeführt. Das Unternehmen hat sich dort € 365.310,- an nachrangigen Darlehen geholt. Lt. damaligen Pitchdeck wurde das Geld für Marktaktivitäten benötigt, detto wie jetzt. Aus dem Pitchdeck, erstellt für das damalige Crowdfunding, ergibt sich das 2015 und 2016 ein Umsatz von jeweils € 600.000 erzielt wurde mit Kosten von ein wenig mehr als € 600.000,- also mit einem negativen Ergebnis. (...)
https://de.fintelegram.com/investorenwarnung-coinanalyst-der-angebliche-mega-ico-von-nexus-global/
 


They try to sell their ICO with pointing on Cogia as successful company but what if the opposite is true? What if they try to get money in Crypto because Cogia is not just not successful but on it's way to bankruptcy?


My theory is: They've seen that their friends from Savedroid, also a not successful startup, got tons of money due to their Crowdfunding, so they decided:
"Let's do that as well, let's get millions from stupid Crypto-Kids who buy everything!"

And because they've never thought about Crypto before, why put much work into it?

• They've started a partnership with Savedroid
• Copied whole parts out of the Savedroid-Whitepaper
• Made a website with the "Made in Germany - brand", exactly like Savedroid
• Even took the Spreadsheet from Savedroid, randomly changed the numbers
• Showed a Demo-Price-Chart, like Savedroid
• Used a lot of Buzz-Words like Savedroid - "AI" and so on...
• And Savedroid promoted Coinanalyst in their own Community

 
But: Because Savedroid already had burned their own Credibility with their PR-Stunts and all their lies (where is the Top5-exchange btw?) and because the market had changed by a lot, it was much harder to get money.

Initially they planned to finish their Crowdfunding end of October 2018. That's still to find in the first post of this thread. And they also said that they don't need a soft-cap what actually means: "We'll take what we get and it's fine." But, since nearly nobody wanted to give them money after the Savedroid-debacle, they extended the ICO to end of December.

But: Obviously also more time didn't help much, so they decided to sell tokens to the MLM-Guys and former OneCoin-Promoter from Nexus Global. Probably they also hoped that they would be good in marketing, but funny enough: It also does not help. The Nexus-Global-Coinanalyst-videos on YouTube have a hard time to get any views:


https://i.imgur.com/cy2AgMI.png


The interesting part is: To really deliver they would have to be experts when it's about social networking. The whole project is about that! But they are not able to get attention. But wait... is that true? Yes and no because also when it's about social activity nothing seems to fit together.


A look at the numbers:

Telegram: They have > 30k members.
That's actually very good compared to many project channels I know. It's just odd that I never saw much activity there before I was kicked. Even the most controversial topics barely get any reaction.

Twitter: 2469 Follower
https://twitter.com/CoinAnalystTech
Surprsing actually.. They have 30k Members on Telegram but not even 1/10th of that on Twitter?

But wait, at least they constantly get hundreds of retweets, a random example:

https://i.imgur.com/7k9Keoh.png


That's actually pretty weird. Let's take a look at a random tweet from...

NEO - they have >300k Followers:
https://twitter.com/NEO_Blockchain/status/1068449041871069184 --> Only 62 Retweets!

Ethereum - they have > 400k Follower:
https://twitter.com/ethereum/status/1060893944886804483 --> 62 Retweets



A similar picture on Facebook: They get so much attention there! So many likes and comments! And they've tried to explain that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinAnalyst/comments/90p8kt/dubious_interaction_on_coinanalyst_facebook_posts/

In short: They say that are bounty-hunters. But wait: Wouldn't bounty hunters also be active here for example?


Bitcointalk: This thread was started on June 12, 2018. It has 6 pages and only 2615 views. Where are the bounty hunters, where is the community? Only on Facebook?

Reddit: It's a total desert. Where are the bounty hunters, where is the Community?

YouTube: 55 Abo's and after 1 months their most actual video only has 81 views:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCReijhnYhNFsvrJH5mtICZw


1) They have much less (!) Followers on Twitter than Ethereum but they get more Retweets?
2) They have more than 30k Members on Telegram but there is nearly no activity?
3) They have tons of Bounty-Hunters on Facebook but nowhere else?
4) They want to be a Crypto-project but this Thread and Reddit are deserts without any activity and they don't care to reply on posts like above at all?
5) And while their Tweets get hundreds on Retweets their Videos on YouTube don't get 50 views after 1 week?

How is that possible?

Nothing adds up here... It seems as if they bought a bunch of fake-posts on Facebook and fake-retweets on Twitter but forgot to do the same on YouTube. They claim to have many bounty hunters on Facebook - but only there and nobody wants to buy their token. There is no Community.

That's why they try to sell their Token to Nexus-Global because selling their ICO is everything they care about.

1) They don't care about reputation
2) They don't care if serious exchanges would list their token
3) They don't care about replying on posts like above or reacting on damaging articles.
4) If there are critical users on their Channel they use the "delete & exit - feature" and that's it.


Good luck with that and with Nexus-Global.
My prediction is: It won't help. Reputation and a real community are pretty important in Crypto.

Coinanalyst proves that its software or product doesn't work. Otherwise Coinanalyst would have to classify itself as a scam.  There are so many clues where every serious investor must turn on the warning lights.  If you want to lose money you should invest in this ICO, but if you are smart you prefer to invest in existing coins that are really cheap nowadays.

Yes, it really is astonishing and impossible to explain. Or, maybe they could explain it but just don't want it? The Coinanalyst-Account was online several times yesterday and also today. But probably it really is hard to explain that...

1) ...they promote their project as "Scam-Detection-System" as described above as Thread-Description
2) ...make business with Nexus Global (https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@nexus.global/news-coinanalyst-ico-with-exclusive-benefits-for-nexus-global-members)
3) ...and a video-chat with the CEO of Nexus Global (https://youtu.be/-szZyNJHPOc)
4) ...who also was a  speaker for OneLife/OneCoin (https://www.instagram.com/p/BLeqSU7DNvC/)
5) ...posted on the same YT-Channel also Ruja Ignatova was promoted  (https://youtu.be/n7AeNV_7PJ0) - the Mastermind behind OneCoin


If the guys from Coinanalyst don't even get something like an "internal alert" from whomever, or Google, once the term OneCoin (https://coinnounce.com/onecoin-scam-ponzi-scheme/) shows up, only two possibilities are left:

[] They are not even able to use Google for a short verification of new business-partners
[] They simply don't care

Just btw, the Bafin alerted in April 2017 (https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/DE/Verbrauchermitteilung/unerlaubte/2017/vm_170427_Onecoin_Ltd.html)

@Coinanalyst: Just add an X if you don't have the time to explain because selling your ICO outside Crypto is so time consuming.

Hey Coinanalyst, have you ever heard of "Bonofa" and "Alphapool"?


There is a whole german Wiki-article about it, just a few lines:

"Mehreren Angeklagten wird vorgeworfen, seit 2005 über Jahre hinweg in betrügerischer Absicht ein Geschäftsmodell aus kombinierten Methoden des Netzwerk-Marketings und Merkmalen eines „partiellen“ Schneeballsystems betrieben zu haben, um sich zum Schaden der Anleger persönlich zu bereichern. Die dabei nach außen wirkenden Firmenkonstrukte trugen die Namen „Alphapool“ und „BONOFA“.[6] Nur vorgeblich wurden die von Anlegern aus Altersvorsorge und Ersparnissen frei gestellten Gelder investiert, wobei jedoch stets im Unklaren blieb, woher die in Aussicht gestellten Gewinnausschüttungen überhaupt stammen sollten. Augenscheinlich sollte dies durch ein komplexes Bonussystem und selbst hergestellte Computersoftware verschleiert werden. Das Geschäftsmodell weist insofern ebenfalls Züge eines Ponzi-Schema auf. Es brach schließlich im Jahre 2016 zusammen, nachdem die Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht Unregelmäßigkeiten monierte.

Aufgrund der weltweit reichenden Verflechtungen der hier aufgebauten, multinationalen Vertriebsstruktur über das Internet erfährt das Verfahren ein deutlich überregionales Medienecho."
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphapool-Bonofa-Prozess


An article in english about Bonofa:

Bonofa Management Arrested In Germany For $100 Million Fraud
https://www.businessforhome.org/2016/05/bonofa-management-arrested-in-germany-for-100-million-fraud/

Focus on the date of the article above: MAY 25, 2016



One guy who heavily promoted it: Michael Thomale

"Was ist Bonofa? Warum ist Bonofa so interessant für jeden?Warum wird es funktionieren? Warum müssen Wir niemanden überzeugen? Warum haben wir extremes Wachstum? (...) "
https://www.facebook.com/gofusion.info/photos/a.655286464491170/682950765058073/?type=1&theater


Bonofa Host Michael Thomale:

Michael Thomale erwartet 100 internationale Gäste
https://www.diebewertung.de/wp-content/uploads/BONOFA-startet-mit-Top-Event-im-Gohliser-Schlösschen-ins-neue-Jahr-–-Gastgeber-Michael-Thomale-erwartet-300-internationale-Gäste.pdf



His next step was this - Jul. 18, 2016:

Welcome Michael Thomale!

Due to the fact that BONOFA AG has adjusted its business activities  -because of the recent situation in the last few weeks- the key distributors of the company have decided to join the currently fastest growing company in the industry. After a very careful consideration and analysis, we have decided for OneCoin – OneLife – OneAcademy family which is led by Dr. Ruja Ignatova.

(...)

Bonofa’s Top leader, Michael Thomale, has been a significant partner for negotiations with OneCoin.

(...)

In order for the former BONOFA business partners to do the transition into the amazing opportunity that OneCoin presents, One Dream Team has put together a special tour headed by Mr. Udo Deppisch and Mr. Pascal-Rene Andre. Now the new Bonofa Team has the opportunity to get to know and to use the amzing cryptocurrency education packages from the OneAcademy. This new fresh start of the BONOFA organization, which has a dominant position not only on the European market but also on the key markets like: Asia, Afica, South America, India, eastern Europe and the Caribbean; will enable OneLife/OneCoin to build and develop these markets even more strongly and widely.

And that is the reason why all involved parties are looking forward to a productive and long-term cooperation. We are extremely happy Michael is part of the One Dream Team and welcome him on behalf of all our partners!

http://www.onelifeima.com/2016/07/18/welcome-michael-thomale/

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Why that might be interesting for you?
 

A very short summary - to not overstrain your algo's:

• Until it's meltdown: Bonofa
• Right after: Onecoin
• Now: Look who is one of your new friends - just click on "team": https://nexus.global

Featured by: [ANN] CoinAnalyst – Maximize your trading profits w/ News, Scam Detection & more

Hey Coinanalyst, how is it going with a little help from your friends? Millions coming in now?

I've tried to get an overview and my impression is that Nexus Global is maybe not as helpful as you believed it would be? Or maybe I'm wrong and it all works very well? Any numbers available?

Some educational material:

John Oliver - #ThisIsAPyramidScheme
https://youtu.be/KPp_A0FQn1A

Good for you teasing them like that. Although probably with a sense of humor, they are not all right once silenced and do not respond.

Hey Coinanalyst, here you have an example that can serve as explanation why it's not smart to get involved with MLM, especially with guys who promoted Scams before. While reading, imagine the feedback in case your project would get a lot of attention:

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$80 Million ICO TenX Founder Linked to Pyramid Scheme: Report

(...) a video has emerged that appears to show Hosp presenting an online tutoring session used to enable viewers to recruit new participants in the pyramid scheme.  (...)  The emergence of the video, if authentic, is particularly damaging not only because of the reputational harm that TenX stands to suffer, but also because the contents of the video point to a damning lack of integrity and a willingness to promote dishonest and underhanded tactics in pursuit of profit.

(...)

Apart from reputational damage however, this is unlikely to bother Hosp too much because multi-level marketing schemes are not a regulatory priority in the U.S. What will bother him a whole lot more however is the SEC’s current affinity for prosecuting ICOs that sold unregistered securities during the height of the ICO boom last year, one of whom is TenX.

https://www.ccn.com/80-million-ico-tenx-founder-linked-to-pyramid-scheme-report/

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Edit: Just watched the video that is included in the article. It's very interesting how he explains to his followers how to promote the company, how to recruit people, how to especially target friends and family. A comment on youtube, about 50 minutes ago:

"he basically teaches people how to scam their friends and family. now he doin the same with tenx"
 

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Of course this case is different from yours - no one of your team was involved in such a Scheme. But you've decided to link your project to people who previously promoted Onecoin and Bonofa and maybe even more. I doubt that anybody would not consider those as a clear Scams and now you have partnered with them to promote your ICO.

And see, you may believe them if they say that they distance themselves from what they've done before. I personally would not take that risk and even if I may believe one person who says that, I would not believe in a company with two or even more involved having the leadership-positions of the company and were involved in such Schemes.

But let's say you believe them and let's even say they are honest and want to do legal und clean business with their Nexus Global now. What does it say about their competence that they got involved in something like Onecoin? I know NOBODY who bought that shit. Crypto laughed about it. But these guys who actually should be experts in Crypto, if you look at what they want to do with Nexus Global, believed in it? Or they did not but knowingly promoted it, but want to come clean now?

See, whatever one individually may believe or not believe. In my opinion it shows a lack of competence on your side to take such a risk because you can not exclude of being used by them. Probably you believe Nexus Global chose your project because they've seen quality or whatever. But what if they chose you because they saw an opportunity in terms of token supply for example?  

What risks could there be?

1) Reputational risk is high and I believe it's already damaging and it's also clear that you are not able to defend your decision since you are, at least publicly, nearly  totally silent.

2) There may be risks regarding their Intentions - in case that they are not honest and may not act honest. Imagine a majority of supply under control of Nexus Global and what risks that may involve in terms of potential market manipulation

3) Exchanges - I have some doubts that bigger exchanges are eager to list your token, no matter what you or Nexus Global claim because they do background-checks and they don't like to take risks and they don't need it


Besides that: What the article above states about potential problems with the SEC... Coinanalyst and your token is different to TenX, but I would be surprised if the way you've promoted it and still promote it in the Nexus-video would still be in line with a Utility Token if it's about the SEC-perspective. What I mean regarding the past is especially the price prediction chart and the spread sheet. What I mean regarding the video is how is explained what was done to "ensure" a good performance and arguments like "Imagine we sell just xxx each months what that would do to the token price" etc.


All of that are reasons why experienced guys don't buy while you may have been able to get them interested if you would have made different decisions.

Just btw, will be interesting to see if this will really help:

We extend our ICO until March. This is good for all of us. Read here why: https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/we-extend-our-ico-until-march-b0c1e6821156 In addition, anyone who has already invested through our website until the end of November will receive another 5% bonus. #ICO #ERC20 #blockchain
https://twitter.com/CoinAnalystTech/status/1071078665033789440

I believe there is the additional risk that you've started a partnership with an MLM and it doesn't even paid out. How can you know how many members they really have? You guys claim to be experts in analyzing social media activity - where do you see just 100 of them?

1.
Das Wichtigste zuerst: CoinAnalyst ist keine Luftnummer und der ICO kein Scam. CoinAnalyst ist auch mehr als ein Projekt. Es ist ein reales Produkt, das in einer Beta-Version vorliegt, getestet werden kann (nach einer Registrierung) und in seinen bereits verfügbaren Features von der vielfach bewiesenen technologischen Kompetenz von Cogia Intelligence profitiert. (Cogia ist nicht nur mit dem STEP-Award der FAZ ausgezeichnet worden, sondern auch mit dem TechBoost-Award der Telekom und weist zahlreiche DAX-Unternehmen als Kunden auf.)
 
2.
Ein besonderes Vergnügen scheinen die Kommentatoren darin zu finden, CoinAnalyst aufzufordern, den „angeblich“ entwickelten Scam-Detektor auf sich selbst anzuwenden. Sehr lustig, aber wie so vieles andere auch von einer gehörigen Portion Arroganz und Unkenntnis getrübt, gerade angesichts der aktuellen Situation in den hochspekulativen Krypto-Märkten, die in der Tat Abzocker und Betrüger anlocken. Hier ist die Entwicklung eines Scam-Detektors ein absolutes Desiderat, und CoinAnalyst hat eine Menge Ressourcen investiert, um ein solches Feature zur Produktreife zu bringen. Dies geht allerdings nicht von heute auf morgen, da Verfahren aus dem Bereich der Künstlichen Intelligenz eingesetzt werden müssen (kann jeder Interessierte in einschlägigen Studien nachlesen), die langwieriges Training benötigen. Eine erste Version des Spam-Detektors ist gleichwohl bereits umgesetzt.
 
3.
Immer wieder, immer noch Savedroid. Dazu ist eigentlich bereits alles Nötige von unserer Seite aus gesagt worden und kann im Thread nachgelesen werden. Leute, es bringt nichts, auf ein totes Pferd einzuprügeln. Wenn Ihr es doch macht, liegt die Vermutung nahe, dass Ihr nur einen Vorwand sucht, um Eure Ressentiments zu pflegen.
 
4.
Ernst nehmen wir hingegen die Vorwürfe hinsichtlich Nexus. Ja, Nexus arbeitet mit einem Strukturvertrieb – und so etwas hat keinen guten Ruf. Aber: unsere Zusammenarbeit mit Nexus hat einen genau definierten Zweck. Es geht nicht darum, Leuten hochspekulative Tokens anzudrehen, sondern darum, Kunden und also Nutzer für CoinAnalyst zu gewinnen. Die verkauften Tokens sind Utility-Tokens, die dazu dienen, einen Zugang zu der Anwendung zu erhalten. Selbstverständlich wollen wir damit Geld verdienen, schließlich haben wir für deren Entwicklung bereits Hunderttausende von Euros investiert.
 
5.
Ernst nehmen wir auch den Artikel im Fintelegram. Allerdings deshalb, weil dieser Artikel eine Menge Halbwahrheiten und Unterstellungen enthält, die die Grenze zur Böswilligkeit streifen. Um nur die wichtigsten Behauptungen aufzugreifen…

- Weder seien ein Soft Cap noch ein Hard Cap für den ICO von CoinAnalyst angegeben. Ein Blick ins White Paper widerlegt dies sofort. Explizit ist hier der Hard Cap mit 20 Mio Euro beziffert.
- Es wird behauptet, dass mit dem Einstieg von Nexus die COY-Preise manipuliert werden. Das ist nicht nur Nonsense, sondern eine üble Unterstellung. Nexus-Kunden kaufen sich nicht mit Extra-Boni ein und erhalten zu günstigen Preisen Tokens, um dann die Preise zu treiben. Nexus-Kunden erhalten als Gratifikation einen längeren Zeitraum für die Nutzung unserer Anwendung! Unser Interesse ist nicht die Marktmanipulation, sondern die Ausweitung der Kunden-Basis für CoinAnalyst.
- Behauptet wird, dass durch Nexus der Telegram-Channel von CoinAnalyst mehr als 33.000 Mitglieder habe. Dies ist falsch: es waren schon über 33.000 Mitglieder, als Nexus kam.
- CoinAnalyst hat niemals Werbung gemacht mit dem Bafin-Schreiben. Dies ist untersagt – und dies haben wir stets respektiert.

Der Artikel zieht den Schluss, dass „das Projekt zu spät auf den Markt“ komme. Der ICO-Hype sei vorbei, viele „Shit Coins“ und „Dead Coins“ würden vom Markt verschwinden, eine Regulierung der Krypto-Börsen sei zu erwarten. Somit halte sich die Attraktivität des CoinAnalyst-ICOs in engen Grenzen; hier von einer „Mega-Möglichkeit“ zu sprechen, sei eine „Irreführung von potenziellen Investoren“.
Was der Autor nicht verstanden zu haben scheint, ist, dass die Anwendung CoinAnalyst gerade in dieser Situation (die durchaus korrekt beschrieben ist) ihre Möglichkeiten ausspielen kann und wird. Da eben die Krypto-Märkte derart volatil und unsicher sind, kommt es mehr denn je darauf an, hier Transparenz zu schaffen, durch den Einsatz von geeigneten Tools. Das Projekt kann gar nicht zu spät auf den Markt kommen, solange der Markt derartige Turbulenzen zeitigt wie aktuell. Es ist sicherlich so, dass in der momentanen Lage ICOs mit gravierenden Problemen konfrontiert sind. Doch dies ist kein Argument gegen die Nützlichkeit einer Anwendung wie CoinAnalyst!

@Coinanalyst: Schön, dass Ihr Euch zu öffentlicher Kommunikation durchringen konntet! But why are we talking german now?


Ich denke nicht dass Ihr ein Scam-Projekt seid. Gleichzeitig kann man die Grenzen zwischen Scams und seriösen Projekten als durchaus fließend bezeichnen und auch ein Projekt ohne betrügerische Absicht kann Entscheidungen treffen die man klar falsch oder sogar grenzwertig findet. Und was ich mich oft gefragt habe ist: Wenn Ihr doch mit Cogia so erfolgreich seid, warum weitet Ihr das nicht einfach auf Crypto aus ohne einen Token zu verkaufen? Das Ding macht doch alles komplexer und dann müsst Ihr auch noch Profit verbrennen. Warum nicht einfach ein gutes Produkt anbieten und für Euro verkaufen oder wegen mir auch Crypto annehmen, ohne eigenen Token?

Und selbst wenn Ihr offensichtlich Geld braucht, dann ist ja die Frage warum erstens so viel und warum Ihr Euch zwar einerseits keine Soft Cap gebt, dann das ICO aber beständig ausweitet weil Euch die bisherigen Einnahmen offenbar nicht reichen.

An irgendeiner Stelle muss da also was schief gelaufen sein und/oder nicht stimmen. Ich vermute fast, dass Ihr relativ immun dagegen seid Gründe mal bei Euch und Euren eigenen Entscheidungen zu suchen, aber vielleicht wäre genau das mal angebracht.

 

Gehen wir das mal nüchtern und ohne Vergnügen durch:

Stellt Euch mal bitte vor dass Euer Scam-Detector wirklich gut funktioniert und wie auch immer das im Einzelnen technisch passiert, es werden alle möglichen Informationen bezüglich eines Projekts das gerade im ICO ist durchsucht. Dabei entdeckt der Scam-Detector:

• Im Whitepaper sind einige Absätze zu finden die 1:1 aus dem Whitepaper eines anderen Projekts kopiert wurden.
• Das Projekt ging eine Partnerschaft mit eben jenem Projekt ein aus dem die Whitepaper-Parts kopiert wurden, und jenes Projekt hat in deren eigener Community bzw. unter deren eigenen Investoren eine Vielzahl an Scam-Vorwürfen bekommen, etwa weil sich jenes Projekt mittels PR-Stunt selbst in diese Ecke gestellt und damit der eigenen Reputation schweren Schaden zugefügt hat, was logischerweise kaum ohne Einfluss auf den Wert des Tokens bleiben konnte. Aber auch wegen nicht eingelöster Versprechungen mit denen das ICO gehyped wurde, z.B. bezüglich garantiertem Börsenlisting usw.
• Das Projekt ging eine Partnerschaft zu einer MLM-Firma ein deren Gründer vorher für Bonofa und Onecoin gearbeitet haben.

Wenn Ihr für den Moment mal vergesst dass es hier um Euer Projekt geht:

Sollte/würde ein funktionierender Scam-Detector diese Punkte tatsächlich ignorieren?



Es geht bei der Analyse eines Projekts vor allem um die Frage inwiefern ein Team fähig ist eher gute und für alle konstruktive Entscheidungen zu treffen oder nicht. Um das einschätzen zu können ist Kontext bedeutend und was Euch betrifft gehört Savedroid nun mal dazu. Ich persönlich würde Euch nicht vorwerfen dass Ihr vor deren ICO, mindestens aber vor dem PR-Stunt, eine Partnerschaft mit Savedroid eingegangen seid. Was mich aber an Eurer Kompetenz hat zweifeln lassen:

• Die übernommenen Parts aus deren Whitepaper wären so unglaublich einfach zu vermeiden gewesen. Sowas wirkt faul auf mich, als ob ein Team möglichst viel Geld einsammeln möchte ohne zuviel Zeit und Energie auf die Erklärung des eigenen Konzepts zu verschwenden. Abgesehen davon verstehe ich nicht warum man so ein Risiko eingeht. Ist doch klar wie das auf viele wirkt wenn es raus kommt, v.a. wenn man auch noch von einem Projekt kopiert das die eigenen Investoren behandelt hat wie Savedroid es tat.
• Das gesamte ICO-Konzept wirkt wie 1:1 von Savedroid übernommen und das ist doch auch der Fall. Der Spreadsheet, der Preis-Chart, der "Made in Germany Brand" usw. Selbes Problem wie unter Erstens.
• Obwohl jedem, der etwas Erfahrung in diesem Bereich und das Feedback auf den PR-Stunt und die weitere Entwicklung von Savedroid beobachtet hat klar war, dass die ihrem eigenen Projekt und damit den eigenen Investoren großen Schaden zugefügt haben, habt Ihr dennoch zugelassen bzw. offenbar selbst so entschieden, dass Savedroid Euer ICO promoted hat.

Würdet Ihr nicht zumindest im Rückblick zustimmen, dass das keine besonders klugen Entscheidungen waren? Glaubt Ihr tatsächlich dass Ihr nur deshalb bisher so wenig Geld bekommen habt weil der Gesamtmarkt schlecht aussieht? Das ist ganz sicher ein Aspekt. Aber Savedroid ist mit Sicherheit auch einer und es gibt ja noch weitere.


Im Übrigen würde ich Savedroid nicht mehr thematisieren und Coinanalyst vermutlich nur nebenbei beobachten, wenn nicht das hier wäre, womit ihr m.A.n. Fehler nicht nur wiederholt sondern noch intensiviert:


Nexus betreffend gibt es m.A.n. wirklich viele Aspekte zu bedenken:  

Onecoin & Bonofa
Nexus ist nicht nur irgendeine MLM-Firma. War Euch bewusst, dass zwei der Gründer vorher für Onecoin und Bonofa gearbeitet haben? Warum ich diese Frage stelle ist: Wenn Ihr davon wusstet, warum habt Ihr das nicht als zu großes Risiko gesehen, etwa Reputation betreffend? Und wie könnt Ihr Personen nicht nur persönlich vertrauen die eine solche Vergangenheit haben, sondern als Projekt/Firma eine Partnerschaft mit ihnen eingehen?

Meine Ansicht ist: Wenn eine Person einer Firma z.B. für Onecoin gearbeitet hätte und mir erklären würde, dass sie mit so etwas nie wieder was zu tun haben möchte, möglicherweise tatsächlich daran glaubte, dann könnte es sein dass ich persönlich bereit bin dieser Person zu glauben. Würde ich ein Projekt leiten würde ich das Risiko dennoch nicht eingehen. Das wäre nicht persönlich gemeint, sondern m.A.n. einfach eine professionelle Entscheidung. Abgesehen davon: Selbst wenn ich dieser Person glauben oder gar vertrauen würde hätte ich ja mehr als nur begründete Zweifel an deren Kompetenz falls derjenige mal an Onecoin glaubte. Hier geht es aber doch nicht mal nur um eine Person sondern um mindestens zwei Personen und das sind dann auch noch die Gründer von Nexus Global. Und selbst derjenige der Eure Nexus-Promo-Mega-ICO-Videos auf YouTube hochgeladen hat, hat im selben Channel eine Vielzahl an Onecoin-Promotion-Videos verbreitet.

MLM-Konzept
Und selbst wenn mit Nexus alles sauber laufen sollte, ist das immer noch eine MLM-Firma. Und auch jene die legal arbeiten haben oft deshalb einen schlechten Ruf weil deren Mitglieder nicht nur für irgendein Produkt werben, sondern sie kombinieren das oft genug mit dem Versuch immer neue Leute zu rekrutieren. Die gesetzten Anreize sind dabei keinesfalls Kompetenz-fördernd, sondern sogar im Gegenteil. Firmen-Mitarbeiter wenden sich ja nicht selten sogar zuerst an Freunde und Familien-Angehörige und nutzen ein Produkt um Mitglieder zu gewinnen. Und in diesem Fall wird es Euer Token und Eure Software sein womit Nexus-Mitglieder dann möglichst viele Verkaufs-Abschlüsse erzielen und möglichst viele neue Mitglieder rekrutieren möchten um möglichst viele Prozente zu bekommen.

Ist das wirklich ein Gedanke der Euch gefällt? Irgendwelche Typen die zum Teil oder sogar mehrheitlich wahrscheinlich keine große Ahnung haben versuchen ihre eigenen Freunde von Eurem ICO und Eurer Software zu überzeugen um Prozente zu kriegen und neue Mitglieder für Nexus zu werben? Schaut Euch doch Eure eigenen Nexus Videos an. Da deutet sich nämlich mehr als nur an wie das gemacht wird.


Börsen
Ebenfalls ein mögliches Reputations-Problem das durchaus deutliche Konsequenzen mit sich brächte: Gerade die guten und seriösen Börsen, die jedes Projekt anstreben sollte das einen Token hat weil Börsen die echten PR-Maschinen sind, machen Background-Checks. Das Thema MLM finde ich da schon riskant, aber freiwillig eine Verbindung zu Ex-Onecoin-Promotern einzugehen ist doch auch das Thema Börsen-Listing betreffend richtig riskant. Gibt es irgendwas in Crypto das toxischer ist als Onecoin? Onecoin gilt doch nicht nur als gigantischer Scam, sondern auch noch als lächerlich. Hatte das Ding überhaupt je eine Blockchain?

Dazu könnte kommen, dass die Art wie Ihr (und Nexus) Euren Token bewerbt, zumindest nach US-Recht dann möglicherweise nicht mehr vereinbar mit Utility-Token ist. Ihr solltet mal andere Projekt-Teams sehen wie unglaublich vorsichtig die sind. Die sagen nix über Preise, die hypen den Token nicht als potentielle Profit-Maschine und holen andere ins Boot die genau das tun. Nebenbei: Ich frage mich da ehrlich gesagt wie legal das ist. Denkt mal an all die YouTube-Influencer die ständig sagen "This is no financial advise" um nicht in Schwierigkeiten zu kommen. Aber Nexus-Leute sollen andere aktiv dazu überzeugen in Euer ICO zu investieren? Habt ihr mal nachgefragt ob das nicht zumindest für die ein rechtliches Problem sein könnte?

Nexus Global und deren Intention?
Habt Ihr Euch mal gefragt warum Nexus Global Euch wollte? Habt Ihr in Betracht gezogen, dass das vielleicht nicht mit irgendeiner Qualität zu tun hat die sie sehen, sondern vielleicht eher damit dass Euer ICO bisher schlecht lief? Ich behaupte nicht deren Intentionen zu kennen. Der Punkt ist: Ihr könnt deren Intentionen letztlich auch nicht kennen, nur darauf vertrauen was sie Euch sagen. Warum ein solches Risiko eingehen?


Kompetenz?
Es stellt sich da wirklich die Frage ob ihr all das nicht bedenkt und ob ihr keinen Background-Check gemacht habt, was absolut in Konflikt mit dem Use-Case wäre den ihr mit Eurem Projekt anstrebt. Denn gerade Ihr müsstet doch ein tiefes Verständnis des ganzen Marktes haben um zu liefern.




Ich fand den Artikel stellenweise auch nicht besonders gut geschrieben. Aber, um mal auf ein paar Punkte einzugehen:

Hard Cap & Soft Cap:
Ihr habt zwar eine Hard Cap, aber Ihr habt keine Soft Cap. Normalerweise bedeutet das, das ein Projekt innerhalb der angegebenen Zeit ein ICO durchzieht, und egal was reinkommt, das ist es dann. Gerade um zu vermeiden dass ein Projekt unterfinanziert startet geben sich die meisten ja eine Soft Cap. Ihr habt das nicht getan. Stattdessen verändert ihr die Regeln und verlängert Euer ICO zuerst um 2 Monate auf Ende Dezember und dann noch mal um 3 weitere. Jetzt geht es schon bis Ende März - obwohl Ihr Euch ja so schlagkräftige Verkäufer-Hilfe mit ins Boot geholt habt. Was bedeutet das für jene die im ersten angegebenen Zeitraum investiert haben? Deren Geld ist eingefroren. Weder können sie andere Gelegenheiten wahrnehmen, noch können sie auf Eure ziemlich extremen Entscheidungen reagieren. Ich kann nur für mich sagen: Hätte ich irgendwann bis Ende Oktober in Euer Projekt investiert würde ich mein Geld zurückverlangen. Und wenn Ihr das ablehnen würdet, wäre ich jemand der juristische Schritte mit einem Anwalt besprechen würde.

Manipulation:
Ich bin nicht sicher, ob in dem Artikel behauptet wird, dass mit dem Einstieg von Nexus-Global Preise manipuliert werden. Zuerst führen sie ein anderes Projekt an und behaupten das Nexus Global schon mal Preise manipuliert hat. Ich habe nicht versucht das zu recherchieren und sage daher nichts dazu. Über Euch schreiben sie dann:

"Die Gefahr für potenzielle Investoren des COINANALYST ist, dass die COY-Preise manipuliert sind. Es ist zu vermuten, dass sich die NEXUS GLOBAL-Leute bereits günstig in die COYs eingekauft haben und jetzt nach dem NASDACOIN-Muster ihre Mitglieder nutzen, um die Preise zu treiben und damit zu deren Lasten exorbitante Gewinne zu erzielen. Null Transparenz aber hundert Prozent Manipulation."

Der erste Teil behauptet es nicht als Fakt sondern bezeichnet es als Gefahr und Vermutung. Den letzten Satz wiederum könnte man durchaus als Behauptung interpretieren. Ich würde das so nicht formulieren, aber im letzten Satz gibt es einen interessanten Punkt: Null Transparenz. Da würde ich zustimmen, denn anders als fast alle anderen Projekte die ein ICO durchführen gebt Ihr eben nicht an wie viele Token Ihr bereits verkauft habt. Und das obwohl einer Eurer Leitsprüche doch "CoinAnalyst makes cryptocurrencies transparent." ist. Gilt offenbar nicht so ganz für Euch selbst?  

Was auch immer Eure Gründe sein mögen das nicht zu tun, alleine das sehe ich persönlich als kritischen Punkt und zwar sowieso. Noch mehr aber wenn Nexus Global mitspielt. Denn: Damit öffnet Ihr selbst doch die Tür für solche Vermutungen! Würde man z.B. erkennen können, dass Ihr lange Zeit sehr wenig verkauft habt, die Verkäufe aber mit dem Einstieg oder sogar kurz davor deutlich hoch gingen, dann sollte man das Thema Preismanipulation ganz sicher bedenken. Ein denkbares Risiko-Szenario wäre doch, dass sich Nexus-Leute ins ICO kaufen, den Token dann wiederum an eigene Mitglieder promoten und die wieder an andere wobei absolut nicht einschätzbar wäre wie viel Kontrolle Nexus als Firma (bzw. die führenden Köpfe) dann über den späteren Circulating Supply hätten. Das muss ja kein objektive Kontrolle über die Token sein. In einem solchen Szenario ginge es v.a. um psychologische Manipulation. Und noch mal: Ihr habt es hier mit MLM und Ex-Onecoin-Bonofa-Typen zu tun.

Letztlich läuft einfach vieles auf die Frage hinaus warum Ihr denen vertraut...


Telegram-Channel

Ich weiß, dass Ihr tatsächlich schon vorher über 30k Mitglieder hattet. Aber wisst Ihr was mich wundert? Warum da kaum jemand was sagt. Ich kenne Channels mit weniger als 3000 Mitgliedern die ständig am rattern sind. Ein ähnlich und doch anders schräges Bild auf Twitter. Ethereum hat 180 mal mehr Follower als ihr, gleichzeitig habt Ihr beständig etwa 5-6 mal mehr Retweets aber kaum je auch nur einen Kommentar unter einem Tweet. Und hier oder auf Reddit ist komplettes Schweigen im Walde, und kaum jemand klickt Eure YouTube-Videos an. Da stellt sich dann schon die Frage was bei Euch echt ist.


Bafin-Brief
Das Thema ist schon wirklich interessant. Schaut Euch doch mal diesen Teil an, die Zeit ist eingestellt:
https://youtu.be/NSzyhOJ0Tgw?t=748

Der Nexus-CEO fängt mit dem Thema an und Euer CEO greift es auf. Im Kontext des Videos, das ja Promotion ist, würde ich das durchaus als Werbung interpretieren, denn damit werden ja Anreize gesetzt und genau deshalb wird es doch zur Sprache gebracht. Pascal Lauria weist dann ziemlich spät darauf hin er dürfe damit keine Werbung machen, aber ist nicht genau das gerade davor gemacht worden - auch von ihm selbst?

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Und mal nebenbei: Ich habe mir beide Interviews, englisch und deutsch, angesehen - einfach auch weil mich interessierte wie MLM funktioniert v.a. die Art der Kommunikation. Und m.A.n. müsste jeder der ein bisschen Ahnung von Crypto und ICO's hat die Krise kriegen wenn er hört wie in den Videos gehyped wird. Da gehts ab und alles ist Meeegaaa,  da werden Sprüche geklopft wie "This company goes definitely through the roof" und Euer CEO pushed das alles ja auch durchaus ziemlich unsubtil, wenn er über den Token-Preis spricht - etwa erklärt es sei leichter von 1 Cent auf 1 Dollar zu kommen als von 1 Dollar auf 10 Dollar (wtf? von 1 cent auf 1 Dollar ist meiner Rechnung nach eine Verhundertfachung, während von 1 Dollar auf 10 Dollar "nur" eine Verzehnfachung wäre) und in Aussicht stellt was mit dem Token-Preis passiert wenn sie profitabel wären usw. Quelle: https://youtu.be/NSzyhOJ0Tgw?t=2020

Aber vermutlich gehts hier ja nicht um Fakten, sondern um Psychologie, oder? 1 cent wirkt weniger als 1 Dollar und wie viel es dann von dem Zeug gibt, so nebensächliche Zahlen wie Circulating Supply und Marketcap, Total Supply und Total Value, wen interessierts? Es braucht zwar schon ein bisschen mehr Geld um eine Marketcap zu verhundertfachen als „nur“ zu verzehnfachen, aber wenn kümmern Fakten wenn man ständig behauptet Fakten auf den Tisch zu legen.


Beispiel-Rechnung:

Binance macht dieses Jahr hunderte Millionen an Profit, vermutlich deutlich über eine halbe Milliarde Dollar.
Marketcap BNB momentan: $613 Millionen

Coinanalyst: Euer CEO erklärt im Video wie er auf ca. 2 Millionen Umsatz (nicht Profit) im nächsten Jahr kommen will, das dann pro Jahr steigern möchte und bringt das in Verbindung mit einem Token-Preis von $1.

1 Dollar pro Token wäre eine Verhundertfachung des ICO-Preises und eine Verhundertfachung der Marketcap.
Falls Ihr ausverkaufen würdet: 100 * 20 Millionen = $2 Milliarden
 
Zitat Coinanalyst CEO: "Stellt Euch vor es gibt nen ICO das Geld macht, profitabel ist und seinen Business-Plan schlägt. Was glaubt ihr wie das abgehen wird auf den Token?"


Falls Ihr dabei v.a. auf Hype setzt: Sicher, das wäre ein Faktor. Aber auch da... BNB wird (nicht nur) auf der größten Crypto-Börse gehandelt, Binance, sondern die entwickeln auch eine eigene Blockchain und geben dem Token damit zusätzliche Funktionalität. Plus: Der Token kann mittlerweile sogar eingesetzt werden für:  

"Im Rahmen der neuen Partnerschaft werden Inhaber der von Binance herausgegebenen Kryptowährung Binance Coin (BNB) damit direkt auf der Plattform Naga Trader angebotene Anlageprodukte kaufen können."
https://de.cointelegraph.com/news/hamburger-naga-group-und-krypto-borse-binance-starten-enge-kooperation

Bevor Ihr Eure $2 Millionen Umsatz auch nur in Reichweite habt, fantasiert Ihr über eine $2 Milliarden Marketcap, womit ihr Binances gegenwärtige Marketcap gleich dreifach überbieten würdet?

Und das ist dann auch noch die Argumentation mit der die Nexus-Leute losziehen sollen um andere, die möglicherweise noch nie mit Crypto zu tun hatten, in Euer ICO und Nexus Global selbst „hineinzuüberzeugen“.





Ich bin wirklich gespannt was am Ende des ICO's für Zahlen stehen werden. Ich glaube nämlich schon nicht dass Nexus Global 100k Mitglieder hat. Vielleicht irre ich mich, aber deutlich ist ja:

- Sehr wenige Klicks der Videos
- Auch sonst sieht man zumindest online keine höhere Aktivität
- Während viele andere Projekte ein ICO in 30 Tagen durchziehen, verlängert ihr zuerst um 2 Monate und selbst mit Nexus Global, und obwohl ihr ja über 30 Tage mit denen hättet, noch mal um drei Monate. Zahlen macht ihr natürlich nicht transparent - warum auch immer.


Und in einem Jahr bin ich dann gespannt, ob Ihr Eure ca. 9000 Käufer pro Monat gefunden habt um auf Eure ca. $2 Millionen Umsatz zu kommen und ob sich dann wirklich eine Verhundertfachung Eures Token-Preises zumindest schon mal andeutet, oder ob das Kurs-Szenario vielleicht auch eher dem von SVD ähnelt.

Während ich warte setze ich meine rosarote Sonnenbrille auf und jage Einhörner.

For me even a single person with a lot of knowledge will be so easy to create a workign product. I'm imagining when george hortz created its self driving car that has been used by various companies.

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Ok, SEC is coming.

I see there is no update on bounty spreadsheet yet, already ask on bounty telegram chat but no respons is it already over or we just continue to the end of month?

1.
First things first: CoinAnalyst is not an empty vessel and the ICO is not a scam. CoinAnalyst is also more than a project. It is a real product that is available in a beta version, can be tested (after registration) and benefits from Cogia Intelligence's proven technological expertise in its features. (Cogia has not only received the STEP Award of the FAZ, but also the TechBoost Award of the Deutsche Telekom and has numerous DAX companies as customers).

2.
The commentators seem to find a special pleasure in asking CoinAnalyst to apply the "allegedly" developed scam detector to themselves. Very funny, but like so much else also clouded by a good portion of arrogance and ignorance, especially in view of the current situation in the highly speculative crypto markets, which indeed attract rip-offs and fraudsters. Here the development of a scam detector is an absolute desideratum, and CoinAnalyst has invested a lot of resources to bring such a feature to product maturity. However, this is not possible overnight, because artificial intelligence methods have to be used (can be read in relevant studies), which require la long training. Nevertheless, a first version of the spam detector has already been implemented.

3.
Again and again, still Savedroid. All the necessary information has already been said from our side and can be read in the thread. Guys, there is no point in flogging a dead horse. If you do, you might think that you are just looking for an excuse to cultivate your resentments.

4.
We, on the other hand, take seriously the accusations regarding Nexus. Yes, Nexus works with a structural sales organisation - and something like that doesn't have a good reputation. But: our cooperation with Nexus has a precisely defined purpose. It's not about turning highly speculative tokens on people, but about winning customers and therefore users for CoinAnalyst. The tokens sold are utility tokens that are used to gain access to the application. Of course we want to make money with them, because we have already invested hundreds of thousands of euros in their development.

5.
We also take the article in the Fintelegram seriously. However, because this article contains a lot of half-truths and insinuations that stretch the boundaries of malevolence. To pick up only the most important assertions...
- Neither a soft cap nor a hard cap for the ICO of CoinAnalyst are indicated. A look at the white paper immediately disproves this. Explicitly the hard cap is here quantified with 20 Mio Euro.
- It is claimed that with the entry of Nexus the COY prices are manipulated. This is not only nonsense, but a bad assumption. Nexus customers do not buy themselves with extra bonuses and receive tokens at favourable prices in order to then drive the prices. Nexus customers receive a longer period of time to use our application as a bonus! We are not interested in market manipulation, but in expanding the customer base for CoinAnalyst.
- It is claimed that through Nexus the Telegram channel of CoinAnalyst has more than 33,000 members. This is wrong: there were already over 33,000 members when Nexus arrived.
- CoinAnalyst never advertised through the BaFin Circulars. This is forbidden - and we have always respected it.
The article concludes that "the project is coming to market too late". The ICO hype is over, many "Shit Coins" and "Dead Coins" are disappearing from the market, a regulation of the crypto exchanges is to be expected. Thus the attractiveness of the CoinAnalyst ICO is kept within narrow limits; to speak of a "mega opportunity" here is a "misleading of potential investors".

What the author does not seem to have understood is that the CoinAnalyst application can and will play out its potential precisely in this situation (which is described quite correctly). Since the crypto markets are so volatile and insecure, it is more important than ever to create transparency through the use of suitable tools. The project cannot come to the market too late, as long as the market is as turbulent as it is now. It is certainly the case that in the current situation ICOs are confronted with serious problems. But this is no argument against the usefulness of an application like CoinAnalyst!

We're just about to decide that.
We'll let you know as soon as possible. (Y)

Hi, I want to know everything is good with the project? Social networks are empty. There are no news in Twitter and Facebook for a long time. This is a little alarming.

Please read the last pages of this thread and you will know that less is okay with the project. Among others, user tempus has done great work to research how the project team is miserably acting on various fields and how they cooperating with proven imposters because they have not met their ICO earnings goal by far.

Hi,
It's December : We are currently testing the MVP and implementing the feedback.
In addition, we are in the process of concluding new partnerships.
Stay tuned  ;)

- CoinAnalyst Team -

Looking forward to use all services being provided by CoinAnalyst project. wish team more success in future. :-* :-*

- Important News -


Our first IEO (initial exchange offering) is being launched tomorrow 11AM GMT on ExMarkets.com.


Check the article : http://bit.ly/2twlD00 (http://bit.ly/2twlD00)



https://i.redd.it/h6eczuxylxh21.jpg

Congratulations! CoinAnalyst ICO rating (https://iconow.net/ico-2032/) by ICOnow 74/100.

https://iconow.net/icosource/logo/74.png (https://iconow.net/ico-2032/)
Business: 16/20
Product readiness: 2/5
White Paper: 9/10
Roadmap: 6/10
Legal: 2/5
Team: 17/20
ICO terms: 5/5
Token applying: 3/5
ICO Promotion: 14/20

hello sir, I have a little question about the sale of ico before on the CoinAnalyst project, how many funds have been collected from the previous ico results, is there a time that has been applied when the COY tokens can be traded

The funds raised are still not on display by a team that is clear that CoinAnalysist has confirmed from several exchanges that they can be traded there.

yes I saw it but how would the community believe that there is very little information I see on CoinAnalyst's latest social media about the development of this project, what about people's trust if this is not corrected?

Maybe the team will prepare it and to immediately answer about not public trust, we are just waiting for the announcement, maybe after Bounty ends.

I hope it will happen, because if they do not improve their social media, it will have a negative impact before the community, so it is immediately corrected so that trust will be stronger with the Coinanalyts project.

It must be as soon as the team immediately announces it on social media but it is certain that they certainly know the current situation and confront the anxious community.

I hope the incident will not get worse and make people feel uncomfortable, maybe the team needs to fix it quickly so that there is no doubt about the community towards the Coinanlyts project

Maybe the team is busy with what they are developing so the team will not respond before their work is complete, but which I hope the team must talk here.

Hey Coinanalyst, you see all the questions above? You are online nearly every day but you believe it's not necessary to reply?


I also have a few questions:

One month ago, on March 31, you guys posted that your ICO is over:

The CoinAnalyst ICO is over. Here is what’s next…
https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/the-coinanalyst-ico-is-over-here-is-whats-next-382aa5f2bafb


Quote:

Already now I can say that our ICO was a success despite the difficult market. We have spent between 1.2 billion and 1.8 billion tokens in the Pre and Main ICO. Since our token has also been sold through many external portals and marketing campaigns, we still have to determine the exact amount manually. I ask for your understanding that this will take some time. We still have to wait for some feedback.

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My questions are:

1. How is it possible that you still, 1 month later, don't know how much you've sold?  

2. Is it true that your ICO is in fact not over but that you keep on selling to Nexus-Global? I ask because of this - posted on April 16:

(...) We can still buy and stand a chance to have discounted rates for using the system (...)
https://www.facebook.com/MWGBC/posts/10157350519666410

3. Will you be transparent about the distribution of your token, about how much was sold to Nexus Global (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461332.msg48348838#msg48348838)?


Why I ask is: I've watched the outcome on Exmarkets-Launchpad... You've sold only a few of your Token for 0.28 BTC to the general public there. That are about 1500 USD in 5 weeks. With other words: If it's true that you've sold between 1.2. and 1.8 billion tokens I would think that a huge majority was sold to Nexus Global and I believe you should be transparent about the numbers and maybe also about the current status, if your ICO is in fact over or if you are still selling to Nexus Global or not.

Any new informations or still nothing?


 

the team should keep in touch with its users. This is especially true for investors. managers can do it too. it's not that hard. it is worth paying attention to this factor.

It's kind of fascinating that a team that has finished an ICO is so consistent when it's about not replying on any (not just mine) questions and not not giving any information out. I don't know if they are more transparent on their channel. I was kicked a long time ago, also because they didn't like questions. But it doesn't matter anyway...

Let's explore the Status Quo a bit:

The ICO has been finished since March 31 and as can be seen in the post above: They didn't know how much they sold.

Question would be, and of course they'll not reply:

1) Do they know now?
2) If yes, why wouldn't they make it public?
3) If no, how is that possible?


Etherescan can give some informations:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d#balances

1. Until now they have issued a total of 902,520,898 COY = about 9 Million Euro if calculated with the ICO-price
2. 100% of token are held by 45 addresses
3. The biggest addresses hold a lot while the smallest addresses hold tiny amounts (about 25 EUR)


There are basically three scenarios now:

1) That's it.. that's what they sold and only 45 addresses hold all Tokens. Of course that's not likely.
2) They'll issue more token and distribute those to more addresses. But: Even if, it wouldn't change much regarding the distribution
3) Some of the 45 addresses are addresses which they use to distribute. That's possible of course but since many of the 45 addresses show a balance of only 2500 token (about 25 EUR) it seems as if most of those addresses are Investor-addresses.


Here is what I believe is weird in any case: Coinanalyst had to extend the ICO again and again because they were not able to sell much. That also was their reason to partner with Nexus Global. But even with so experienced Salesmen (OneCoin-Promoters) they still had to extend their ICO. And not just that, they have tried to sell tokens on Exmarkets. How much did they sell? In about 5 weeks they've sold COY for only 0.2 BTC. I've never seen so little Interest in any ICO.

How is it possible that they have sold Tokens for at least about 12 Million Euro - that's what they claim in their Blog-Post:

(...) between 1.2 billion and 1.8 billion tokens in the Pre and Main ICO.


That's kind of hard to believe.


But, anyway... what I believe is: Some of the big addresses probably belong to Nexus-Global and Nexus-Global may distribute those COY to Nexus-Global-Members. But things become interesting here, because Nexus-Global is a MLM with Leaders who have a shady past. I've warned very early that they may plan a pump and dump



To manipulate a market would be easy if Nexus would control a huge majority of the supply. Now there are only 45 addresses and the Top 10 hold > 90% of the current total supply.


Regarding Exchanges:

Somebody told me that the Coinanalyst-team plans to launch on exchanges end of May. That would be in about 10 to 12 days. At least until then they should have figured out how much they sold to how much people. The confirmed exchanges are small and not likely to help this project any further:

trade.io
ExMarkets
Nebula Exchange
Source: https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/the-coinanalyst-ico-is-over-here-is-whats-next-382aa5f2bafb

More interesting as what they have confirmed is: Nearly all ERC20 get a listing on IDEX, but Coinanalyst didn't have confirmation when they wrote their Blog-Post. Why?


Summary:

1) More than 6 weeks after the end of their ICO they still don't know how much they've sold. Or: They just don't want to say it.
2) They don't reply on any question and all social media accounts are very quiet since a long time
3) The current distribution of the current total supply, about 9 Million EUR if calculated with the ICO-price, contains only 45 addresses
4) It seems that they can't find any interesting exchange, maybe not even IDEX
5) Even if the current status regarding token-issuance and distribution should not be final, the probability is high the Nexus Global holds a huge majority of the supply

On Telegram the team was made aware of several unanswered questions here. This is their reply:

"We're not really interested paying attention ans answering questions to the same people who talk badly about our project and spreading FUD. Maybe you can understand that."

Let me give you a short lesson about the basics of good communication - it's really simple.

There are basically three kinds of negative informations coming from Crypto-Guys like me. But your reaction could always be the same:

• If somebody asks questions that may or may not imply that there is something wrong with your project ---> you reply with Facts
• If somebody intentionally spreads false Informations ---> you reply with Facts
• If somebody comes up with theories that are not true ---> you reply with Facts

If you read my posts... I ask a lot of questions and if you let them unanswered I come up with different scenarios. But, I'm not the typical guy who wants to spread FUD just to spread FUD, I'm not focused on the worst-possible scenario. I really want to know and I'm somebody who can differ between BS and facts. If you would come up with facts and I would see that I am wrong I would admit it. A reply like the above is bullshit...

It's very much like Trump does it every day and all day long. He doesn't want to show facts, so he tries everything to discredit those who ask. That's Childish. #SAD

Let me also tell you: In my opinion a good team has a responsibility not just to hype a project with the intention to sell as much as possible during an ICO, but  also to take care about their Investors after an ICO. What I mean by that is simple: A good team should reply on pretty much everything, at least everything that is relevant. Do you see anything irrelevant that I've talked about/asked?


1) Number of sold Tokens?
2) Distribution?
3) You friends from Nexus and how much they hold?
4) Exchanges?


Don't you think your Investors also have such questions?

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Edit:

In case you don't believe me (because you don't like me)  just two posts above somebody else said this:

Hi Coinanalyst,

I have zero doubts that you will continue with your zero-communication-policy on this platform but some questions can't hurt, right? ;-)



1) Today you've published a blogpost and you say this about the sold supply:

"Following the successful ICO campaign that began on 7th July 2018 and ended on 31st March 2019, CoinAnalyst’s token COY achieved impressive results: In main and pre-sale almost 2 billion COY were sold, which is almost 90% of the set Hard Cap."
https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/coinanalyst-starts-trading-on-exmarkets-and-trade-io-following-successful-ico-campaign-9da7e5af5c80

You sold "almost" 90% of the set Hard Cap? Any reason why you don't want to provide exact numbers? It's the first time I see something like that btw..


2) Etherscan shows the number of 3,750,000,000 COY as total supply. On your site you said about the basic distribution: 55% (Pre ICO and ICO) for the sale and 45% for the team (expenses etc.). With other words: The number of sold tokens also determined the number of the team-token. Since you've not generated those tokens before the ICO, but after and also over the last few days, the round number is weird. How is that possible? Do you plan a burning-session after you generated the token? Why isn't there any explanation about that?


3) 55% (Pre- and ICO) of the total supply would be: 2,062,500,000 COY. Is that the number you sold? Because if calculated with the ICO price of 0.01 EUR that would be more and not less than your Hard Cap (20 Million EUR)?  


4)  Really, you should provide exact numbers or this becomes a little bit weird, because at the moment your own numbers don't seem to add up!


5) Since you've partnered with the OneCoin-Guys from Nexus Global: Would you now be transparent about how much was sold to them? Stupid question since you don't even want to say how much you've sold as total, right?


6) Etherscan shows 2,493 addresses now. But the Top 20 hold more than 97% of the total supply. The Top 50 hold more than 98.5%. Any comment on that, especially when it's about question 5: Nexus Global?


7) How is it possible that your token was so wanted that you got so much money but when you tried to sell COY on Exmarkets you sold COY for only about 0.27 BTC over a time period of 5 weeks? At that time that was not even 1000 EUR in 5 weeks...


8 ) How is it possible that your token was so wanted during the ICO but now the highest  buy-order is at 0.00000020 BTC? That is 85% below ICO-price of 0.01 EUR!


9) Any reason why you don't even get a listing on IDEX after such a successful ICO?

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Oh, and...: Interesting is also that you got hundreds of retweets for random Tweets last year but your last tweets, your announcement of trading-start got... zero retweets? How so?

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Let me tell you what I believe: I believe that it would be very naive to believe in anything you say, even if you don't say much - your silence has a reason I guess?
I don't believe that you sold a round number and obviously you don't want to say how much you sold - since you don't do it you must have intention to hide exact numbers. I don't believe that your ICO was successful and that you really sold so much, but I believe that Nexus Global got a ton of COY. I don't believe that the number of addresses is equal to the number of Investors and I consider that as a reason why the distribution is so unbelievable fucked up. Top 20 > 97% of the total supply is..... let's call it "special".

I don't believe that you thought about the scenario that you see now, about the question how hard it would be to keep up a (fictional?) marketcap like that, especially if nobody wants to buy the token - as it already was obvious during the ICO. You start your article with "Following the successful ICO campaign that began on 7th July 2018 (...)" but we all know that you needed so much time because nearly nobody wanted to buy your COY. You partnered with Nexus already last year, but even after that you had to extend your ICO. And if that partnership was so successful, why the attempt to sell on Exmarkets where you sold Token for not even 1000 EUR over a 5 week period? This was one of the longest ICO's I've ever seen: 9 months!

What I believe is this, no matter how much exactly you hold and how much you sold: There are nearly no real Investors. You hold a ton of COY and Nexus Global holds a ton of token. There is nearly no trading, near to zero volume and especially: Near to zero buy orders and the few that are there want to buy about 90% below ICO-price to set the bought token as sell right after they've bought.

The few real Investors you have already sell below ICO-price and those who buy about 90% below on the exchange will undercut that right away. Now, let's think about the possibility that your buddies from Nexus Global try to game the market, try to orchestrate a little pump... They should think twice about it because it won't be easy to get buy orders, that's already obvious. If they set them themselves it could very well be that they will own just more COY - and they already have a shitload, right? ;-)

What I would like to know is if you trust the guys from Nexus and if they trust you. Because if not, there is absolutely no way that anyone of you will be able to get a higher price to sell your COY - each party has to be concerned about the possibility that the other one will sell into each pump attempt.

That's what I call a really bad market situation. Listing on small and unknown exchanges but a totally overblown marketcap I will never believe it to be real. But, over time it will go down...

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Btw: Have you seen that your partner Savedroid is sued now? You are on the safe side regarding the controversial question they seem to have problems with?  

Just one example/explanation what is happening on the market right now.


10,000,000 COY were transferred on this address on Feb 22
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0xfd64bbeab701f44e2cdf039c6074aa541daab49b
Calculated with ICO-price of 0.01 EUR: 100,000 EUR ---> just a big (real) Investor? Hmm... I don't think so.

Transaction: 4 hours ago to:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x66396b3c3d8446e364e805cb0e8c310dddff685e

That's an interesting address, because it is very active and holds a lot. More interesting: It then distributes to several other addresses. 3 examples:


https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x9a4ec7e6e93ef5e51263b0c2e11fa17cdc143219
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0xfa575e102909876134afb56e3c334a1192a12f3b
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x19475350e8a8812124a546648615bbdd1b8c149b

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Now, let's take a look where the COY went to:


https://i.imgur.com/sKJC21s.png

https://i.imgur.com/dU2uxpb.png

https://i.imgur.com/WGUGffT.png



 

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Now... let's think about it for a moment.

1) What we know for sure is that the first address got COY for 100,000 EUR on February 22
2) What we know for sure is that those COY are transacted on an address that also gets COY from several other addresses
3) What we know for sure is that THAT address then transacts COY on several other addresses


Does that look like as if it's just one guy who wants to sell?

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Scenarios:

1) One big and real Investor who simply likes it complicated. Is that impossible? Nothing is impossible. It's just highly unlikely
2) Nexus Global
3) Coinanalyst



Just btw: I didn't dig deep here... If I would do that for about an hour, I'm pretty sure I would find several examples like that.



@Coinanalyst... you don't want to say anything about that, right? But don't you think it would be a good idea simply to say how much you sold exactly? Have you ever seen an ICO where that is kept as a secret?

Another interesting address:


https://i.imgur.com/YcNVKZh.png
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x57240eadc0eb8cf728f196ff1543ad79908142fc


Pay attention to:

• This address got 50,000,000 COY. Calculated with ICO price: 500,000 EUR
• 9 hours and a few minutes ago two transaction to two different addresses
• Interesting coincidence: Both the same amount of 1,154,000 COY

Let's see where it went to:

https://i.imgur.com/PneqcLY.png

https://i.imgur.com/pF2MqYq.png




What does that mean? Is it possible that the first address that held COY for 500,000 EUR is just an address to distribute COY to normal/real Investors?

It is possible, but highly unlikely, because we have weird coincidences here:

• Two different addresses got the same amount of COY (calculated with ICO-price: 11,540 EUR each)
• Two different addresses send 100%, the exact same amount, to trade.io

Does that seem as if it's about different and real Investors who simply want to sell?

Who could that be? @Coinanalyst, any Idea?

Just minuges ago, a guy from Nexus on Twitter:



Dear NEXUS Family, you who have been with us since the early days or even lately, you guys see now the potential of our products.

Our first ICO, CoinAnalyst just hit 0,0335 Dollars, that more than tripple of the... https://www.facebook.com/599111409/posts/10157475100261410/ …

https://twitter.com/indoormunichnow/status/1134927424448344064




Reality:


https://i.imgur.com/jQ3sHaV.png

https://i.imgur.com/X7Cv8pL.png

Hi Coinanalyst, it's me again. Seems as if I'm your biggest fan! ;-)


Just saw that you have a new partnership! Congrats!

And the video about it really shows the huge salesman-talent of your CEO:

CoinAnalyst: Why the Kraken/AI partnership is a breakthrough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFBOo3Od5g

- a hot update
- totally excited
- huuuuge
- smartest guys in prediction
- big data & AI
- killer solution
- best product ever
- your satisfaction is our reward (that's what I like most - so new, so wow, never heard before!)
- if we rock, this product rocks, the token rocks, simple thing, win-win-win (also a nice line! Catchy!)


To get that many superlatives in a short video of 1:26 minutes... that's huge. You really killed it! ;-)


But, you claim that you've sold token for nearly 20 Million Euro. Why does nobody care about your new partnership?

Views: 30 after 1 day?
Twitter Storm: Not so much (I saw one Tweet)



Just btw.: And again one Nexus Guy on Twitter tries to give the impression the price would go up like hell. Besides the fact that it's not true, this attempt to keep the price up with 1-buys really is way too obvious:


https://i.imgur.com/2b4WCWo.png


On trade.io, additionally to the typical tradeio-washtrading, it's done the same but doesn't help much. Price still down - near to zero real volume.



Again I have to say: I don't believe that you really sold token for 20 Million Euro.

About your new partnership: Who is KrakenAI? Never heard of. Is it really that huuuge?

Somebody dumped and not just that, but also built a whole new Orderbook at "low" prices:


https://i.imgur.com/dIVqsRs.png
 

The current price of $0.0021 is 0.0018 EUR = - 82% to the ICO-price


Thing is: If we calculate the current price with the current Total Supply of 3.75 bn Token it would still be a Total Value of nearly  $8 Million. Who believes that the Coinanalyst-Economy is worth that much? My guess would be: There is room for lower prices. Plus: "Somebody" has a shit ton of Token to sell.

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Btw, another example from Twitter and how credible and plausible it is that Coinanalyst sold Token for nearly 20 Million EUR:


A random Tweet from last year - 329 Retweets!

https://i.imgur.com/R8nJFeZ.png



About 6 days ago they announced the Final ICO-Numbers... only 2 (!) Retweets:

https://i.imgur.com/yfAhW7p.png

The Final ICO Results don't get more attention? Shouldn't it be possible that at least your own people plus the Nexus Guys retweet your Tweets if you don't have any real Investors? Only two retweets looks pathetic.

@Coinanalyst: Maybe it is you dumping on the market, extending your ICO a fourth time, because in reality you didn't even sell close to what you claim?



Btw, it's not just me who believes you are dishonest about the numbers of your ICO if you check the German Thread:

Fortunately this token is still worth something on the trade.io and people are still buying it at $0.0044 price even after the huge dump while it has almost no volume on exmarkets. Had to withdraw my tokens as there was no open order there and only 1-2 tokens got sold after 3 days.

The volume comes from bots.


Wow, this release triggers a lot of cheers. People and investors are going crazy here  ;D

Sorry, but no one can validate if the software is really what you are promising (except buying a plan). The website has open placeholders what is not pretty professional.
Also the release was three weeks ago (according to your Medium blog post) and now you post it here? Pretty strange! No news on other media. Seems nobody cares.