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Hi guys,

** Understand some people may think this is another scam, It Is NOT. Good news, Voskcoin and philipma1957 have accepted doing a review for us! sample boards have been sent them for verification. please wait for their review!

** Please anticipate our little survey for pre-order! thanks for your time
https://s.surveyplanet.com/qgKGVspdD

I am glad to announce that  Agilmine A1 prototype boards have been assembled and tested fully functional in our lab!
We have currently implemented FPGA bitstreams and cross-platform host application to support XDAG, Keccak, KeccakC, Pascal and Skein mining algorithms. In the future we plan to support Tribus and other algorithms based on demand.
Some sample performance spec are listed below. Please be noted the numbers are not final, we are still in the process of optimizing the algorithm implementation. In addition they are measured at normal clock frequency and operating voltage. By methods of overclocking and increasing core voltage the hashing performance can bump up by least 10-20%. In the future we plan to support Tribus or other altcoin algorithms based on demand.

XDAG - 500Mhs at 20W
Keccak and KeccakC - 1Ghs at 25W
Pascal - 500MH/s at 20W

Key features:
1. GPU equivalent mining performance at 1/10 power consumption
2. Multiple algorithm support, active development, NO DEV fee
3. Small, Portable, Quite, Low heat and basement mining friendly
4. Single USB connection for both FPGA programming and mining communication
5. Flexible and low cost host selection - Win, Mac, Linux any OS would work as long as there is USB port. My host device is a $10 Raspberry Pi Zero. And you can connect as many miners as you want!

Also, this would be a perfect platform for developers who want to work on their own mining algorithm. We have a solid design in power supply circuity to ensure stable fpga performance for long time mining operation.

Due to the trade dispute between US and China, we have decided to move the production to US. So this fpga miner will be 100% made in USA :)
At the moment we are trying to figure out how many people are interested in ordering this fpga miner. Note that the one showed in the pictures are the prototype design, there will be a few improvement in the final design. We have already lined up the suppliers and manufactures and within three months we shall be able to get them shipped. We will go ahead to make a batch if we can receive more 500 orders, it is probably the minimal quantity below which we would lose money making any...

The price is
$345 (USD)

If you are interested or have any questions please send email to
dev@agilmine.com

Or join us in our discord channel!
https://discord.gg/R36gzXM

If you consider pre-ordering please provide your bitcointalk id and quantity interested in ordering.

Thanks.

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===Previously updated on June 19===
Hi guys, some of you may know that I posted my original thread in March, since then we have NEVER stopped a single day working on this exiting project to bring you an affordable, portable, low power yet powerful fpga miner on a usb stick.  ;) ;) ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073933.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073933.0)

Today, I am happy to announce that after months of hardworking our hardware design is finalized and sent to board manufacturer for test board production.

see the pic yourself, it shows a real work designed by real engineers. you should stay with the real stuff and run away from scams.

https://i.imgur.com/G7x9BWt.png

our website is still under construction (none of us is good web developer) and we DO NOT accept pre-order until this design is fully tested work! ;D ;D

Cheers

Never stopped, NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY, wooow really? Please tell me how you eat or poop while coding? :o

I've gone over your old thread and you seem to be linking a website back there. And your device looks like a simple Arduino board. How do you expect to compete with even a GPU with that? There are no technical specifications, no indications of algorithm or profit, nothing. So many red flags and I would highly advise everyone to be careful and better yet, stay away from this, at least until more details are revealed.

 ::) ;) I totally agree with you, people here should be more cautious (especially in the world of crypto) and watch what others do than what they say.
you can't judge by its size, actually it is the design goal to make a small and portable miner. on the algo we have tested with, the hash performance is equal or better than a GPU at 20w power consumption.

Can you reveal mining algorithm that your design is aimed at working with?

Instead of trying to be a smart ass why don't you simply give us an estimated hash rate or at least an estimated profitability-power ratio?

IF, thats a big IF, this is actually a real hardware product, you are acting very unprofessionally and defensively. Real companies and teams do not have time to act all childish the way you are doing. If you think this is a good marketing strategy then you are severely mistaken. All you are doing is looking like one big SCAM.

I am not sure what you mean by the childish act.. because all i did was to post some exciting progress that my team felt happy & proud about. you are right we have no marketing skills, because we are all hardworking engineers, cryto hobbits trying to work on a fun side project - a gpu equivalent fpga miner on a stick  8). now that we expect the first batch prototype boards be ready in late june, and by early july we should be able to finish all testing and decide whether or not it is production ready. and we will release full spec and hashrate info in that time frame, so please be patient if you are interested, we are just not that ready yet. thanks.

Freudian slip or what!

lol my bad. corrected

SO, at the end have you decided to go with the cheaper option less powerful ?

I hope so.

Please remember that its a FPGA not an asic. So, please release it with at least a couple of bitstreams :)

Please a little more details about algos, devfees, power...

When you have a working, verifiable product, please contact one of the Hero or Senior members here and let them do a review of the product.  If they say it performs the way it’s advertised, you will be able to sell thousands of them.

Until that point, probably best if you refrain from posting any further.

valuable comment! thanks a lot. we will definitely send out samples for testing and review once available!

The last 3 years I have been engaged in mining. I will be glad to test your product.
When do you plan to release a ready-made solution to the market?

yes my friend, cheaper and smaller is better, and cuter  ;D
it is a mighty little one, don't underestimate its power!
we will have at least 2 bitstreams ready to be launched along with the hw platform, more to be supported in future, and 3rd party developed bitstream shall be supported as well.
thanks for your continuous interest

thank you, this batch is mainly for internal design validation. if no critical issues found we may assemble more for sampling.
we try to shoot for August for production, but we need to line up with all suppliers and manufacturers, a lot of work ahead. fun stuff.

It's nice to see that this FPGA field has started to be competitive and a lot of people is starting to work on FPGA boards :)

Can you give us an update on predicted/tested hashing speeds, price & power consumption?

Any details on it would be greatly appreciated.

I hope you will have an adequate solution for price and performance. The FPGA market is just beginning to develop while there are very few decent and competitive products. As soon as decent solutions appear, large producers of asics will quickly begin to lower prices for their products. I'm even very curious who will win this battle.

On what process technology(nm) do you plan to release your chips for boards?

This FPGA chip is 28nm process, which we think it is the most balanced solution for an affordable mining device. and it is large enough to hold a big RTL design which is required by most of algo implementation.
we should be able to sell this product at a very affordable price if there is enough order, which we can leverage to negotiate a better deal with suppliers and manufacturer..

So I guess this fpga mining is becoming a thing again huh? well... I guess nobody can really do anything about it, but I'll tell you all straight that this is no different than trying to acquire asics!

because of AVAILABILITY!!!!!!!!

cpu/gpu mining will always be the best and the only real decentralized mining option in the crypto world.
and the sooner you all realize that the better!

I mean I wouldn't have anything against asics nor fpgas if they were as available as any other cpus or gpus, but I'm afraid I can already tell that this guy arm_race(and of course the competition) will similarly follow in the footsteps of some of the today's biggest asic manufacturing companies, of course, if these fpgas prove to be successful and profitable products in the first place.

Think about what I just said before jumping on the fpga hypetrain...

P.S. no offense arm_race, just my honest opinion, I actually wish you and your team well in your developing endeavors...

hey, some organic discussion is always welcomed here. thanks for the input.
ironically, Availability is the issue we want to solve in the first place, as we see the GPU mining is not a preferred option to everyone, due to its size, heat, noise, high-price and not being available from time to time. we are trying to present a generic mining platform for developers and miners, being small & portable that everyone can set up a "rig" on his desk, and comfortably live with it.

Nice introduction.

I await your further elaboration on specs and other use details.


I always knew FPGA devices would be prominent at some point;  but most people don't understand the linearity of a FPGA vs. a common CPU/GPU.


Will the bitstreams be open-source as to allow community additions and enhancements?

Trust me;  if you manufacture and sell the hardware;  people would rather buy it than remanufacture the hardware themselves.  It's a no-brainer.

Encrypting and locking down bitstreams with hard coded fees are a HUGE turn off in my eyes.  Mining was never intended to be that way.

at this point, we are more pro open than close, i would just feel so wrong by forcing a dev fee on the miners, which i really hate personally being a miner myself. but we also need to figure out a way to protect the copy right, these bitfiles worth months of hardwork, it would also be wrong if someone just steal it and use on some cheaper clones..

As long as hardware costs aren't unrealistic, I would be in to purchase one this being the case.

People on this site can be animals, on either side of the coin.  so as long as you approach the sales and claims in a realistic manner... things should go well for you in that regard.

I don't mind a devfee. I pay JCE CN miner 1,5% devfee and it's normal.
I pay SRB 0,85% devfee and it's normal.
I pay phoenix miner 0,65% devfee.
Up to 2% is reasonnable, especially with "exotic" algos, although I won't pay more than 2% for ETASH.

hi, please have in mind people that not live in USA or europa ($ 400 is like a little more of the half of the monthly salary for example). i really love try this in argentina but normally no shippings or they are expensive ones, bad politics (50% tax in anything that cost more than 25usd) and really bad currency exchange rate haha.

i dont know why im very curious on the way that FPGA works and what can do.

please keep us updated with this.
Great work.

true. we will have to look into how to best serve you guys internationally.
for the price, unofficially, I have confidence to bring it down below $400 if we receive enough order, which i can use to negotiate better deal with the suppliers/manufacturers, but i don't want it to sound like some scam to some people so i will keep quite for now, and share more info later when we have a viable product for sale.  ;) :)
it is still not cheap, but you are looking at a mining device that is equivalent to gpu miner performance (on some algo) at 20w power consumption. setting up a gpu rig requires motherboard, cpu, ssd, etc, the overall expense would be much higher than our fpga solution.

the fpga board is expensive to make, i feel like i would be lucky if i don't lose too much money working on this project  :(
but it is fun ;D

Why is Your name of the thread so similar to other one running FPGA sales? Do You REALLY need to emphasize that it is REAL product? I mean, every buyer expects real product.

I don't know about the other thread you are referring to. Agilmine means an "agile" miner, which can evolve and adapt to different algo. inspired by Agilent actually  ;D
buyers all expect real products, but what they get in the end? there are just so many scammers nowadays.

Is a devfee a problem for you?
People will still find ways how not to pay developers.

The most important is the profit and payback of this equipment. Dev, for example, increase the devfee and reduce the cost.

perpetual never ending fees, are not the answer. 

Relying on a devfee to cover the hardware costs is an insane idea to be frank... not a winning strategy for the dev or the hardware.

OP, do you have any tech spec from your hardware design?
At least also provide us your spec, so we can really judge the performance of your fpga miner. Is it really worth to invest or not.
I myself play around already with legit and top of the line fpga development board, therefore able to give you hints at least on the performance wise based on your fpga chips and algorithm.

Updated! Cheers  ;D

Nope !

if you can please share your thoughts, i hope this be a grassroots movement that we can continuously learn and improve our product. thanks.

for those who think this is a scam. we are ready to send demo boards to reputable forum member for verification and review soon.  ;)

Send it to Vosk, he will give you an in-depth unbiased YouTube review and he has tons of followers

vosk or phillipma are my suggestions from this end =)

So which chip are you using?
You mention 28nm so I'm guessing Xilinx 7-series?
Perhaps the Artix7-200T?
The hashrates seems reasonable for that at least.

Is USB the only communication interface with the host?
Seems a bit limiting to only have that as interface.

No, we are using Microchip Polarfire series flash based fpga chips, new product this year.
This is only our first prototype, we can add a tiny PCIe to the final product. but it will add a small design risk for the change, and i'd like to know how many customers may ask for it? and for what usage? thanks.

I agree with you, send to one of this users or better, sent do both

thanks for the info! we will contact them soon!

sorry I should have spent more time on this forum.. but would you mind sending me links to these guys' profile pages? i have only 6 of those test boards, don't want to send to wrong people .. Thanks! ;D

Phil - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507

vosk - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=987465

DwarfMiner! Welcome back... another day another scam

Don't think so

He's willing to prove the device to our trusted member with Bro phil and Vosk

its a major requirement to trust your product

Unlike Dwarfs sh*TTy reasons on not doing review

Let see how this hardware will go

 

Definitely both Vosk and Phil as they are as trusted as it gets.

I hope you guys will really send out samples

I PMed them, hope they will accept  ;)

Why not sell miners for example via Ebay? Ebay has a time-tested escrow structure. No problems with trust and charges of fraud. Or the developers have no money for the release of the first batch?

The market place like ebay would charge 10% for listing, the cost will be added the price.. we are trying to keep the price low as possible so ppl can afford it.
also, we completely bootstrapped this project using our own money, with no extra fund. those fpga chips are expensive, we can't afford building the a batch of hundreds of units without some pre-order money...

Ok, but maybe 10% is reasonable price for trust? People are tired of fraud. You need to understand this.

agree, and also ebay, amazon would open the world wide market to you.. definitely worth the price once you have the inventory built ready to sell.. but still we don't have any inventory, and if people want us to do this, we need money to buy parts and pay for production. let me look into this, i totally understand you guys frustration ..
i am open to any suggestion, grantedly we are all engineers with little experience on this topic  8)

send it to me I will run it and test and video it on you tube.

Shoot me a pm again I will give a shipping  address.

I will also help with escrow if it is good.

great i will have one shipped in two days! thanks!

Put it also on bittube please

No answer is an answer.
I think this FPGA miner is like SoftRAM / ACORN ... probably SCAM .

Wasn't the bittube guy the one that was in on the Dwarfminer scam? Probably not the best idea to send him one if you're looking for a trustworthy review! :D

philipma1957 will post a video on youtube. I'am asking him to put the video on bittube too. Can't you get it ?!

what is bittube?? ???

sorry for you to think that way.. but fpga itself is a potent technology that can be applied to altcoin mining.
i am enthusiastic about re-energizing the industry

Looking forward to the test results, let us know when you get the demo boards guys.

Blockchain CN based video platform (algo is CN saber). Uploaders and viewers get rewards.

https://bit.tube

just now i shipped one board to  philipma1957
VoskCoin accepted doing a test run for us as well, will send one to him tomorrow  ;)

Sorry - I was tired :D
Ideally he should fake an Austrian accent too in the process.

I'm eager to see the result(s).

Would you care to elaborate on why you are lumping Acorn in with “scams?”

Acorn is a very real product with a massive amount of work behind it...

Hi there, I can assure you that with a little bit of research it is easy to see that FPGA mining projects like this are very real. In the case of the Acorn, we have been very transparent with the community, there is a extensive Discord dedicated to the technical discussion, and third parties have demonstrated the mining potential of Xilinx FPGA chips. The proof is out there for anyone curious enough to do some digging on the topic.

Very interesting project OP, can't wait to see how it develops!

Even though his comment was idiotic, props to that poster for giving everyone a good dose of nostalgia when referencing SoftRAM   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.dansdata.com/images/gz142/softram.png

I have a tracking number will post when I get it.

@ gpuhoarder looking forward to your acorn 215+ and nest2g adapter.

I built a thread ripper 1920x build to test it.




at op  what mobo  do I need
and what os do I need win 10 or linux or does your software have an os and needs its own mobo?
and what ram do i need. 4gb 8gb 16gb 32 gb



I just preordered a rtx 2080 from amazon due sept 20th

I have interest in mixing gear.

would be nice to get acorns
 new gpus
this fpga all on the threadripper board.

Hi, win 10 is better supported at the time, linux should work as well, but you probably won't run fpga programming tool on it.
we have no specific hw requirement on mobo or RAM, as long as you can run win 10, and plug in one usb port, wait for the windows update finished, you should be able to use the host sw i am going to send you to start mining.
I will send you specific instructions. thanks.

Hi guys, we plan to launch pre-order soon, for those of you interested will you please do a quick survey? your input is very important! thanks.
https://s.surveyplanet.com/qgKGVspdD

They don't look powerful enough at the moment for me to make any investment sense I fear... Unless my math is off, you'd need to stack up a few of those to come close to a GPU's current profitability, effectively negating the power and price advantage.

Let me revise this. The hash per $ is not good enough. You do indeed gain in efficiency (so good if your power costs are high), but they are too weak for the money at current profitability levels, put it that way...

Sorry, my native language is not english.

I don´t want to say Acorn is Scam, but it´s like SoftRam. Acorn also don´t publish the specs. In my view the small FPGA with little blockram can only accelerate core intense algo´s(not ethash or cryptonight), whitch asic´s can do better.  ;)

This agilmine fpga is like the Acorn, maybe. Maybe it´s scam (this agilmier fpga, not the Acorn), because the agilmine´s website is whois protected, has no imprint and no link to the real world(adress, llc number,...). In my opinion agilmine looks like scam. I hope it´s not scam. We will see ...  :)

i am not going to argue that based on current overall altcoin price the profitability of investing into this fpga miner is not strong.
this project is trying to solve only 1 problem, which is

"there is lack of a decent & affordable fpga device that is good for altcoin mining"

early on, it probably took us only 2 weeks to develop the xdag algorithm bitstream on fpga, but we simply can't find a HW device to run it on, because crypto algo design requires too much power consumption than a typical fpga dev board can provide.
the fpga devices you can find in the market for mining purpose are 1. too expensive/low availability 2. too big (hence much longer development cycle). that's the reason why we started this project to design our own fpga board for mining algorithm implementation only.

Imagine at the early development stage if you can use this fpga device to mine coins, we would own ALL of them.

okok guy, the domain is whois protected because it is offered for free for 1 year when i purchased it! and i intend to keep it on ;D
we are a legally registered US based company, i will update with more info on our page. sorry i was busy with other issues.

From my point of view this device is way too expsnive.

For example: 500Mh/s on XDAG. With my 1070ti I can do exactly the double. 1000Mh/s.

I can buy an used 1070ti for 340usd and price is dropping.

The 1070ti uses more energy. But the 1070ti can do the DOUBLE of the hashrate and can mine ANY algo and costs a bit less (soon it will cost much less).

Sorry but this fpga is way overpriced. WAY overpriced. A more fair price would be around 160/180usd MAX. not more.

But on Keccak algo this FPGA would yield higher hashing performance than 1070ti, at only 1/10 of its power consumption, according to the thread below. we haven't even tried overclocking or increase the voltage to the core. look, every algorithm is inherently different, some may do better on gpu, and some may fit better on fpga. with a bigger programmer community we can build more efficient mining algorithms to serve the miners.
don't forget building a gpu rig also requires investment in mobo, ssd, expensive power supplier, and cooling method as well, and you are limited to the number of PCIe ports on the board, while FPGA needs none of that, you can plug in as many as you want as long as there are enough usb ports. and it takes little space on your table :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.20
1070TI founders
80% power
200+ core
600+ mem
Keccak .871GH/s

as to price, those mid-sized fpga are expensive, just do a search on digikey, the typical price for a fpga chip with 200+K logic cells cost at least $300 itself. besides we have a solid design in power supply circuit and a easy to use IO subsystem. believe me, our margin is extremely low, and taking risk of losing money. we are more interested in gaining experience, promoting crypto community, building a brand than making any profit.

Thank you for good comment.

ups says it comes on the 23rd.  if it does use 25 watts that is only 600 a day. which is only 18 kwatts a month at 10 cents that is 1.80 a month for power

the 1070ti is 150 watts or 21.60 a month for power. at 20 cents.

I pointed 2 1050ti's at nicehash to mine keccak  they do 600 mh  my rig pulls 188 watts  that means about 5 kwatts 

at 10 cents  = 50 cents on power   I earn 15 cents =  35 cents in the hole.

add  this 2 fpga  watts go to   238 = 6 kwatts maybe 7  hash is 2600  I earn 65 cents  with the two gpus and 2 fpgas

I spend about 60 cents  so I make a 5 cent profit.

 or better yet point them to cn7

the gpus alone use 50 cents power  and earn 34 cents mining loss of 16 cents

the 2 fpgas earn  50 cents
the 2 gpus earn    34 cents

you spend 60 cents at 10 cent power

you make 24 cents a day.

point the 2 1050tis at eth

the gpus alone use 50 cents  earn 49 cents  loss of 1 cent

2 fpgas earn  50 cents cost about 10 cents
2 gpus earn   49 cents cost about  50 cents

rig  makes 39 cents a day.  is it a lot no but a dead rig at 10 cent power becomes an earner.

do I think I want 100 fpgas no but a few yes  I do.

So I am will to help out.

Thank you for offering help! yes i still own you some instructions i will do that right now.
do you intend to test our miner against nicehash? if so we need to change on the host software. the one i sent you had programmed with KeccakC algo for CREA coin. it is essentially the same but the host side software requires a little change.

Good job guys, adding more algos in the future definitely will attract more attention to the project as alternative to the more expensive solutions for mining. Yeah bringing cheap FPGA solution to the community is not an easy task.

Also have you researched the possibility for example of interlinking two of these chips for mining more demanding algos

Thanks so much for the recommendation / support guys - they arm_race sent me an email and stated he will be sending me a unit to review shortly, I'll deliver it as promptly as possible

thanks for the support my friend :D I'll get the review up within a couple days of receiving

Thanks good point, actually you made me think, but in order to do that efficiently i need a lot of io pins in parallel, i am not sure if this fpga chip
 has sufficient number of high speed IOs to support that.
i need to look into that.

Thanks! we were doing some minor hw rework on the board, will send you tomorrow!

I am excited about this

 ;D if you haven't already, please take a little survey, it is our top priority to understand what the community wants.

We have been discussing about reducing the price drastically, perhaps down to $2xx price range. but in order to do so, i need a big volume of about 5000 orders, so i can negotiate a better deal with fpga chip supplier. initially i tried not be ambitious and just happy to make a small batch of 500 for the community members who appreciate it. but if there is high demand for this product, and want it be cheaper, we can work on that as well...

looks interesting for sure. USB and extra power supply.

It arrived about 2 minutes ago.

I am not home wife grabbed off porch.

I will get back with info in 2 or 3 hours.

ok cool let me know if any questions. i will be on email and discord (rapidminer my id there)
be gentle with the fan i glued to the fpga chip pls. ;D ;D

we are all here waiting your review my friend!!! gooo pheegaa  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Arbeit Philip, Arbeit !! ;D

got home fired it up and I have a driver issue.  my win 10 build says it can not find a driver.

It is the size of a pack of cigarettes.

I need to step out for about 1 hour.

at op how do I load the driver?

they have a setup exe for driver installation, this is probably easy to use
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM21228_Setup.zip

if you want bare driver, here is all you need for x64 win10
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM%20v2.12.28%20WHQL%20Certified.zip

otherwise, on the webpage, they have drivers for bunch of other OS
page:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

keep us updated bro!!

drivers won't load I am getting really frustrated.

tired maybe vosk can figure his out.

maybe it is a ryzen issue I will try it on an intel tomorrow.

sorry for the trouble I will uninstall driver on my PC and try reinstalling it, will get back to you later tonight

so i just plugged in the miner to a PC which I had never tried it on, the device is recognized in seconds by windows automatically.. without manual installation of driver..
do you have the 12V power supply plugged in when testing?
do you see the two green LEDs, one front, one back, both ON when 12V and USB connected?
otherwise, would you mind trying it on another windows computer? it should work on any...

also, i tried uninstalling the device driver from device manager, and after power cycle the device came back on automatically.
my guess is maybe you didn't plug in the 12v power?

Thanks

Something is wrong

I see  the device and it shows as this

It shows 4 of them not one of them

other device

embedded flashpro5
embedded flashpro5
embedded flashpro5
embedded flashpro5

it says  there is no driver and it does it on 2 different win 10 units/pc's  one is intel one is amd

https://i.imgur.com/DxFWTmT.png

I am baffled.. so you have only one USB connected right? either the big USB or the micro one, and two green LEDs are on, one front one back?
have you tried installing the driver setup file?

hold on , i suspect some other driver files are missing for the fpga chip. since i always test it on PC with fpga development kit installed.
I will upload the file to share drive and share a link with you. sorry for trouble setting it up! i didn't realize would be that hard, will figure out a way to straight out the process

Tip: You should install a fresh copy of windows and start a setup guide from there, noting every thing you install/did to get your board running. It will help a lot of others once they purchase your board. Or else, you will have tons of questions from people.

yes will try to replicate the issue on a "clean" PC tomorrow.  ;)

 I was going to tell him send me a working clone of win 10.

I have more then a dozen mobos I can use a working clone of win on.


Does not need to be activated win 10.

It also will let me break down. What the exact files to load are.  I could build a usb stick. Maybe 8 gb is all that is needed .  And load all software to it as a setup package.

ok, let me try something tomorrow. it really shouldn't be that hard.. must be something simple missing.

I will be busy  for the next 8-9 hours.

Op and I have exchange emails and we think we found the missing driver.

If you look at my screenshot above there isn't any port section in the device manager. I hope to square this away by 10 pm east coast time.

Sorry for delay, but I have to do some real world business.


  Oh a 12 volt brick  was provided and on idle  the unit uses 3-4 watts on a kwatt meter.

I have the ability to feed  the unit from a modded atx  my guess is that will drop power use a lot as bricks suck for efficiency.

So if op is accurate about 25 watts  with a brick I should drop that to 21 watts with an atx plat.

driver problem solved? awesome! sorry for the troubleshooting, i typically tested it on a linux machine, which naturally supports this device.. so i thought it would be easier to go with a win10.
that brick adapter i sent you definitely is not the power efficient one. i measured the power using a lab DC power supply , which should be fairly accurate, so you may see 28-30W there with that adapter. btw, the cheap fan i glued on the fpga would also draw 1W...

for sure you can use PC power supply for better efficiency. fyi, there are molex adapters like in the pic below. one can drive 2 miners no problme.

Thanks for the effort!

https://www.batteryspace.com/images/products/display/9762.png

Very interesting. It would be also interesting to compare price/profit/powerusage-cost with the bcu1525

Useless thing in terms of ROI.
Nowadays is mainly only hardware manufacturers earn money in crypto mining sphere

If mining on these devices was profitable, then you would mine privately yourself using them, instead of trying to find customers who aren't a very familiar with math. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

there are already many people doing that, secretly, believe me, but my purpose is to build an affordable product that everyone has access to. besides, it is quite a hassle to build a farm, i enjoy more building a product.

if everyone just keep everything to him/herself (or a small group), what is the whole point of cryptocurrency?

I do not know about roi.

But I know one thing  drivers are loaded and I should get test done soon ;D

now on the low end brick  I am mining crea coin pulling 33.6 watts

awesome you got it working.
yes that's possible, i haven't measured power from that adapter..
the hash rate should stay at 1Gh/s
anything else you want to test with?

I am going to make an address for crea and mine to it for 24 hours then try another algo .


pm me what algos you have available.



this is a new address for crea


CUuANV58HNTcjHgu6LhiRSqvt5GTbRTs6Q

http://creapool.club/workers


the address can be looked up at link

the pool calculator says I would earn about 50 cents a day.
  this gear on the brick uses  35 watt x 24 hours = 840 or .84 kwatts   that is 8.4 cents  and you earn 50 cents so you clear 50 -9 = 41 cents  that is 145 a year not the best for roi.  but not a power hog.

I will take photos  etc very soon.

https://i.imgur.com/4lWevab.png

https://i.imgur.com/OZnpP8I.png

great, i will send you some instructions on how to re-program the fpga, hopefully there is no driver issue this time, i want to make sure first.
next time we can try XDAG.

okay send them to me and I will try to setup on sat

Did a 9 minute video on you tube

will post link soon.





Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/Yle13b1kgWo


should be ready in 10 minutes.


i EARNED ABOUT 4 crea

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crea/address.dws?CUuANV58HNTcjHgu6LhiRSqvt5GTbRTs6Q.htm

i WILL DO NEXT ALGO shortly.

Thank you for the good video!  :D
Let me know if you have trouble programming the fpga for other algo!

I will have it running soon. Maybe tonight surely Sun morning.

nice nicee!! please do not forget people from other countries  ;D

Thanks for the video Phil, I'll be keeping an eye on the development and testing if this nifty little bugger. :)

I am working on next algo will post sometime later today..

I am installing flashpro polarfire

this should let me program a different algo to the fpga

I thought I bricked it,but it is working on old algo.

Some how  the install of  flashpro polarfire did not work.

I will delete it and install it again.

 ??? ::) ::) I think it is not that easy to brick
can the device be recognized by the programmer as showed in the screenshot i sent you? and does the "ping" test work? we can chat offline to figure this out. let me know what i can help

still works on old algo.

when I load flashpro second time it came up  but your screens do not match the screens it shows me.  I will  be busy until  six  or 7 pm est time but after 7pm eastern time we can talk on the phone.  I will email a phone number to you.

sure thing, we will figure it out. Thanks!

Okay after some struggle I got it set up with op's help  and running on this pool


http://corpopool.com/

http://xdagger.corpopool.com/



https://xdag.io/

This is more crude and need more development.  op has said he is working on it.

It was nice talking to you. glad that we have worked out the configuration issue.
yes. xdag miner software is just a hackup version of the PC wallet, eventually our plan to merge them all to an integrated PC/Linux host software, and release for open source.

thanks.

So till now it's capable of KeccakC and doubleSHA256. Is mining setup fixed per coin or per algorithm? Not clear because of mentioning patched wallet for xdag.
What is the most complex algo this FPGA capable of?

so I earned this overnight


https://explorer.xdag.io/block/RKBRh91Prqtz4Heqc9zt+3UDWws9rhV0

21.8

coins


this says I should earn  20.8 in 24 hours  my hash rate is 501mhs

https://explorer.xdag.io/mining-calculator

and this algo appears to use a lot less power then CREA

maybe 21 watts

while CREA was maybe 30 watts

I need to check meters on this  not sure about it.

on this exchange  xdag  is worth 2 cents

https://bbx.com/#/


I need to see what this continues to do.  since I earned  43 cents in under 12 hours.  

If this earns  86 cents a day  and uses only 21 watts  it could be a good algo.

The exchange  seems okay .

21 watts in power is .5kwatts a day  or 5 cents  if you have 10 power.  

if I continue to earn 86 cents - 5 = 81 cents a day profit better then CREA

Mind you I am mining  directly to a wallet created in the miner and I am not so sure how to run the wallet side of this.

Ie  how do I pull the coins out?

eventually we want to have an integrated cross platform host software that supports all algo, perhaps also supports programming the fpga board?
for now there is still some hacky code there..

we have compiled a list of all potential algo to be supported on this fpga, and the estimated hashrate, we will have that information updated soon.

I need to do a video

here is video

Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/_bet2aRAhvw


it needs time to down load and publish



it does about 501 mhs

you can see it earn 21.8 coins


my meter reads 262 watts  with it mining
my meter read  241  watts  with 12 v dc power removed  so 21 watts for this algo


xdag.exe -m 1 -d 142.44.143.234:777



https://i.imgur.com/IOeGNm0.png

going to try new software today.  I will post back.

Love the progress guys!    I've been actively watching in the corner =)

I may pick one of these up to play with myself eventually...

Very interesting post, i like this story :)

thank you for sharing

I loaded a new bitstream for keccka

it is up and running on this site

https://www.nlpool.nl/?address=mGnqrkX4tgKQtRVs6eQVWEPbUo5KFnE9EY

It gets easier to add a bitstream as I get used to doing them.


this is for max coin


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/maxcoin/

https://maxcoinproject.org/

https://explorer.maxcoinproject.net/

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/yobit/
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptohub/

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bittylicious/


nlpool is mining to a max coin wallet  the software package  came that way.

So my thoughts are it is nice gear
bitstreams are not real easy to load but  you can learn to do it.

So to switch from one bitstream to another will take about 5 minutes on a fast pc.

I have a thread ripper 1920x with 32gb ram and a nvme2 ssd for win 10 pro os.

So auto profit switching is not much good with it.
I was doing really good mining xdag  yesterday, but that coins network seems screwy today.

I can not get the xdag explorer to synch

https://explorer.xdag.io/block/RKBRh91Prqtz4Heqc9zt+3UDWws9rhV0


https://explorer.xdag.io


So switching to this new coin was a welcome break.

Thought this is a fun item I will want 1 or 2
It is not a get 200 of item.
A lot will depend on bitstream work from the developers of it.

I will run this for a day or 2

and if arm_race has more bitstreams I will test them out.

Thanks. we are running short on those demo boards now, if we are to go for production, we will make another pre-production batch, then i can have some more spare ones for people who are interested in testing  ;)

good job get it running! ::) yes this Maxcoin is Keccak, the other CREA tested earlier is KeccakC, theoretically all coins based on the two variants can be supported by the host SW.

Yeah  arm_race helped with first algo  a few days back
and we talked on cell phone to do the bitstream flash for second algo

today I was a big boy and loaded the newest bitstream flash all by myself and it is now working fairly well.

I will run it over night.

are you planning to add stratum getwork support to the miner app?   If so, yiimp pols and others would easily be able to be mined to.   This of course is assuming it is presently coded just to speak directly to a wallet.... if i'm not mistaken.

we do have an integrated host software that has Stratum, currently supports keccak, keccakC, pascal, skunk, etc.
the only one unique is xdag, which doesn't support stratus protocol, so that's why currently a hacked up version wallet sw if used instead, eventually we will figure out a way to integrate into the main host sw.

perfect!


When these are a final product;  as long as I have the extra to spend on one;  Ill at least be getting one.


I tried myself doing some research on the xevan algo flowcharts (a few coins I mine are xevan) and I really can't find anything;  and I don't have the patience to sift through the ccminer code to pick out exactly what its doing;  since it seems to have reference to many other algos as a part of itself.... one place online hinted that it would take ~2FPGA's working in unison to be able to do that algo.


Keep up the good work!  The multiple bitstreams already is a good sign!

it is up and running on this site

https://www.nlpool.nl/?address=mGnqrkX4tgKQtRVs6eQVWEPbUo5KFnE9EY

It gets easier to add a bitstream as I get used to doing them.


this is for max coin


I ran over night earned almost 5 coins

see below

https://i.imgur.com/zqZtBs8.png

So in about 14 hours 4.4 mature and just under 6 with coins not yet mature added.

These are nice  to mine shit coins and hold them

power cost is .5 to .7 kwatts a day.  at 20 cents a kwatt that is 10 cents to 14 cents a day.

With  the 3 bitstreams provided I mined 

7 or 8 crea
36   xdag
6 max

power cost under 40 cents

you can mine and hodl coins cheaply

for 4 dollars power

I would have mined for about 30 or 40 days  and be hodling

    80 crea
  360 xdag
    60 max

you put them on an exchange  at  10 cents  for first  ½  20 cents for next ¼  and 40 cents for last ¼

Phil you're doing awesome, mines been dropped off and hope to pick it up and get a review up, will take me about 10 days

awesome summary! i hope you enjoy mining with this little guy so far ;)
Thanks a lot for the effort i know you have spent a lot of time trying to set it up running smoothly!

great! let me know if you need any help, i am also available on discord and email. thanks!

Thanks. yes xevan probably a massive algorithm design requiring a bigger fpga chip, maybe like you said to have multiple ones linked to each other on a single pcb.
we are still working with chip suppliers trying to bring down the price.

This looks encouraging, know next to nothing about the mining process but it's so fascinating to read about and especially to follow the thread and follow the flow of information.

now the latest algo I loaded was pointed to a max coin address of the op.

today I made a max coin wallet and switched to mining for me. My address is below

https://www.nlpool.nl/?address=mZFiNE92BTaBtj1Nj4LgVZJzFd6hCHGirD

this change is easy I just put in a new address in the settings file no flashing

Hi, we are still in the process of communication with FPGA supplier on the exact delivery date and price . we want to make sure the 1st batch will be shipped on time before taking in any order.. sorry for the long waiting and thank you all for the patience.
at the same time, we are processing all the survey inputs, and will post some response to our discord channel!

Was interesting to follow the update process. Got anything new coming up?

it is still mining at this address

https://www.nlpool.nl/?address=mZFiNE92BTaBtj1Nj4LgVZJzFd6hCHGirD


I have earned about 180 coins

Thank you for your interest!
The FPGA chip used in our design is from Microsemi's new product line, just start rolling out in Sept. we have been working with microsemi factory trying to improve the product delivery date. keep quite for a while since we don't want to overpromise anything or spread inaccurate information that we couldn't deliver without a clear confirmation from the factory.

on the software side, we are prototyping the bitstream design for Tribus and 1SHA224 algorithms.

 ;D ;D ;)

Neat! Did not notice anything from Vosk though. He did receive a test unit, right?

Interesting topic, wondering if any progress to more algorithms such as ethash, cryptonight, etc?

I took a peak today and see a high reject rate of 25% are you having heating issues with the prototype?

keccak   1   0.1227%   544.3 Mh/s   25%

edit: just jumped to 44 while I was posting this.

keccak   1   0.0829%   339 Mh/s   44.4%

I do like this project, how many more to go before a run is made?

https://www.agilmine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/20180816_213121_mod-841x1024.jpg

Rejects flux  may be the pool  at the moment I am over 850mh.

room is hot with a lot of gear.

the prototype is not cooled well builder mentioned that to me so I have this fan blowing on it.


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106140

runs cool enough.

Builder has told me they  are looking for investors.  Ie they don't have much cash.  I told them after all the other fpga  problems  they should consider build a small batch and selling it off.

It is nice gear and does not burn much power.  But no one wants to lay out money and wait months for gear in this market.

I hope they do build a more polished batch and sell it on a  we have it in hand basis.   Maybe offer two ways to buy.

  pay x and wait  for batch 2 (bigger batch)
 Pay x + 50 usd and no waiting for batch 1. (small batch)

I have close to 270 coins .  which are worth  about 8 bucks..    cost to mine under 10 cents a day.  30 watts x 24 hours = 720 watts at 10 cents 7.2 cents a day   270 coins = 7.56 usd  for 48 days of mining.  so $3.60 in power earned $7.56 in coin.

which means it is worth a shot for 1 or 2  not 10 or 20.

Have to say  I am still waiting on my acorn gear from the real company  and I did opt for a refund.

BTW no one has an acorn miner in hand and the fpga's are also slow to arrive.

Thanks for such a detailed update Phil.

yeah after all these FPGA scams and delays these guys just tried to do this at the wrong time.

Still I wish them all the luck in the world, it looks like a fun little piece of kit.

Thanks to your continuous interest in testing our product!
Regarding the production, we are trying to acquire 50-100 of FPGA chips and build a small batch of pre-production boards for early bird customers ASAP. I have to say it is a frustrating process, as the fpga manufacturer is going through a merger with another company which significantly delayed their production plan of this new product line used in our design. Again, we'd rather not selling anything than taking in orders we don't know 100% it will be fulfilled on time.

In the meantime, we are working on another HW design, a performance beefed up version with bunch of features added based on the customer feedback received in the last few months. we will switch to work with a larger fpga manufacturer and currently discussing the design feasibility of features we plan to add to this product. In one or two weeks, we shall be able to release more information. we won't give up until a good product is made!

Thank you for your praise for our miner.
as i explained in Philip's post, we are working hard trying to get the first batch built for early customers,
at the same time, try to launch another enhanced version of fpga miner design in the near future.
I believe transparency and open is the key to success, our goal is to make a community owned project, accessible to every miner.

All good, make sure to keep us updated. even an update that says "nothing new ATM" is good communication. ;)

Can't wait to see the new design, based on the same chip?

No the new design will be based on 16nm Xilinx UltraScale+, the most advanced fpga product line in the world. significant performance gain (4-5x) expected, and diversified algo to be supported.
the price will be higher but we try to bring it down to gpu price range. we are still fighting the price with manufacturer..

Keep up the good fight!

If you bulk buy from them get a signed contract before you pay up front. ;)

Your site states you’ll do a batch when 500 orders are received.
Wondering where you’re at.  I’ll preorder if it’ll help.

Im rather interested as well, any updates on this?