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Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.

I accidentally bumped in a user with over 1k posts and almost the same merit.
Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?
Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!

Thanks,
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There are a few people who could do this but the data would not be accurate. The person you saw with 1000 activity and 1000 merit was probably just given that because they were a legendary when the merit system started. It doesn't provide accurate data because the initial merit people start off with wasn't earned through the merit system but was granted for free.

Unfortunately you are the only manager of your time. So wise to say, manage your time by your own terms.

Any way some hints: You can start from reading the stickies of each boards and reading what others to say instead of creating topics like this for the next few weeks. After all creating threads like this consumes some of your times, right?

Oh! By the way, search for nullius  ;D
Make sure you do not leave a tail for Lauda  :P

Given your high merit/activity ratio I will take very seriously your suggestion.
I genuinely thought that a ranking with that ratio would have provided an interesting way of learning fast, but I will stick to more traditional ways.

Oh, by the way, I think I answered you on a different thread, but I still haven’t discovered how to be warned when someone quote you on the board!

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I keep an eye on this ratio too.
1 activity=1day posting on the forum, basically.

If you have activity=merit, so you get one merit daily. Except for those users who received free merits..

This is what I am doing:

Try to comment topics with less than 5 replies
Answer all questions the best you can (if they have not been answered already)
Make good posts and wait, merits will come
Study about blockchain and bitcoin


I told my strategy here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3306385.0;topicseen

If you can make infographic for ratio of Merit and Activity, it would received a lot of Merit. Btw, infographic about merit system always interesting and you need pay your attention, a lot of work to finish it. I would like to see who have the highest ratio of Merit and activity, how they can get it and i can learn some tips to contribute more.

By keeping the data on 1:1 post to merit ratio you could get the difference on how one could likely get a merit for every post they make. Start off with top merited users of all time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat) that would be a good start to check those users.

Time would be a great factor but just as what funsponge said

What would you like to to do with that data ? Members with such stats can be counted on fingers.

Could you link the user?

The thing with merit is that if the user is a legendary they could in theory have become legendary anywhere between 775 and 1030 activity.

So if they had 1000 posts between January 2014 ( i think) and January 2018 before the merit started it would seem extraordinary if you don't understand how the roll out happened.

If you were legendary when the merit dropped you then had 1000 merit from day one.

This is a useless metric IMO because there's so much subjectivity in getting merits, and the fact that you can receive up to 50 per member per post.  Yes, in some cases it's useful in demonstrating who's a good writer (like nullius), but there are just too many nonsense variables to even pay attention to.  I think probably a lot of people feel that way, since I've seen this mentioned before and no one seems to think merit:activity is significant.

I appreciate the intellectual honesty, from the first person I see having this ratio >1.
Yes, I am newbie and you are the second experienced user telling me this is a shitty metric: yet I have to find a relevant one.

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Top-merited users, all-time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat)
Top-merited users, recent merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusers)
All users who received 1 or more Merit (http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/all_users_who_earned_Merit_2018-06-22_Fri_08.17h.txt) (this shows only earned Merit, excluding the initial "airdrop".

Forget about this ratio, it's heavily biased by the airdrop. "Merit earned" is what you're looking for.

I'm nearly at 1000/1000, but as has been pointed out, that'a a pretty useless ratio for analysis. I had a lot of activity when the merit system started, and I received an initial reward of 500 as a hero. If you want to check my merit history, then LoyceV created a list for me -
http://talkmerit.com/projects/merit-history.html

Please don't create a stupid, useless infographic about it, I put people on ignore for cluttering up threads with stuff like that.

err what? Why do you even bother about the merit system? Start posting meaningful content in the forum and soon merit will come after you. Then you wont have to chase after merits. :D

There were default merits to every user at the time of introduction of merit system. So a Legenedary member here on introduction of merit system receives 1000 Merits. So I guess that was what you saw.

No idea. But what is the need?

If it was from the default merit distribution at the start of merit system - then that person may have been a shitposter. :P

Safe to say - per 30 days. Hope you don't mind point the correct one?  :)

There is no such a option called merit and activity ratio. One single post can get 100 merits but you can get 14 activity by 14 posts and activity will update after 14 days.

The interesting tool you building here. I bet nullius will be on top. But for majority of users here (sadly including me) ratio would be close to 0. I think only 20 users or so can score ratio above 1. This doesn't mean merit system failed, just we need to try harder.

Me from the past: surprised to see someone with merit/activity>1.
Me from the present:merit/activity>4

Congrats fillippone! That's impressive!

Now imagine what ratio you could achieve if you were accepted officially in the Merit Cycling Club =))) Just kidding.

But seeing your OP now (I didn't know about its existence before), it would be interesting to see a new metric, based on Merits vs. Activity ratio. Eventually, it could be something (no matter its name - let's call it just "New Metric") based on certain intervals. I imagine something like this:

- Rank 0: [0 ... 0.25] ratio (remember, this is for Merits vs. Activity, not for Activity vs. Merits)
- Rank 1: [0.26 ... 0.75]
- Rank 2: [0.76 ... 0.175]
- Rank 3: [0.176 ... 3]
- Rank 4: [3.01 ... 5]
- Rank 5: >5.

It is hard to believe there would be many users with this ratio bigger than 5, thus I stopped there the interval. I imagined the interval bigeer from a rank to a superior one, similar to the difficulty of the merits / activity system, which requires way more merits / activity for upper ranks (example: for becoming Junior you need 1 merit, but for becoming Member you need 10, which means 1000% more merits; for Full Member you need 100, which also means 1000% more than the requirement for Member and so on).

And, of course, it would be even more accurate if such a metric would count just the earned merits, not the airdropped ones.

Edit: oh and about nullius, as I saw his name in this topic also - he is above and beyond this system :) nullius has not just a Merit vs. Activity ratio > 1; he has a Merits vs. Posts ratio >1 :)

You got me here, reviving this thread … I read it a couple of hour ago (still in the crack of dawn) and I didn’t check the date/time in the OP (nor on the answers). At first, I thought you were playing the irony card, alongside a show of (fake) ingenuity to lead others into some kind of plotted trap. As I kept on reading, it seemed pretty weird that people were playing along, and it wasn´t until I was half way through the thread that I spotted the dates …

On the note of Merit/Activity ratio, in order to be fair, it would need a delimited timeframe to cut out or reduce the effect produced by activity generated before the Merit System kicked-off.

Side note: It could be inconsequential but entertaining to have a thread on "Best Noob comments from when I was a Newbie" (i.e. <= Member). I will refrain though.

I am at .78 right now. Working on improving this figure!


Nah, I am a simple person. I like lateral humor, but I don't (usually) like planning traps to fellow forum members.



IF there's someone able to achiveve this result, that person is you, Sir.

There are a few users with low Activity (and only a few posts) and more than 5 Merit per Activity. Some of them deserved, some because they deleted all posts, and some because of Merit abuse (or mistakes).
My ratio is limited by the airdropped Merit and Activity I had already at that point.

Even better: correct it for Merit per post instead of Merit per Activity. I made a topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5051725.0) for that a long time ago.

Infact, I did that a couple of days ago, for all profiles (with a few restrictions) although I diluted it into somebody else’s thread, as it was an answer to @DooMAD’s question on the matter. I did delimit the window frame to the last running year, to get a recent reading of the ratio merit/post (see: re: I received 1 merit for exactly 10 posts on average (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229611.msg53949448#msg53949448)). @fillippone complemented the information with a nice chart on that same thread (see: re: I received 1 merit for exactly 10 posts on average (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229611.msg53952049#msg53952049)).

If a account holder like you with 1:4::Activity:Merit ratio is looking up to make the contribution efficient then, I need to work harder to be effective. I am ashamed of my way of using time after reading this.

Hats off.

I figure that anybody with a higher Merit to Activity ratio must be a pretty good poster. Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

I don't agree with adding merit per post/activity.
Assume that someone asks a simple question. Almost no one will answer that question. Because answering such question doesn't deserve merit and it decreases merit/post (merit/activity).

Uhm... not totally. Although I claimed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220580.msg53696188#msg53696188) that merits can be earned easily if you are a decent forum member, and other members (such as nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3114287.msg32178708#msg32178708)) thought the same, I wouldn't go that far, to think that who doesn't have at least 1:1 Merits vs. Activity ratio after 6 month is a shit poster.

Merits can be earned easy, but not that easy. But a ratio of at least 0.5 should be enough, in my oppinion, in order to differentiate a good poster from a shit poster.

Of course, this wouldn't apply to everyone, but to some (most?) of the posters.

No, I don't agree. It doesn't mean that if they have fewer merits, they are posting a shit post. Maybe they are posting good contents and it is not noticed or it is already posted by someone else(already discussed that point in a thread). Not every post in a thread can get merits. Some deserve merits and some do not deserve it.

Also, the users who got more merits, they would have got maximum merits on a single thread. The threads which are too good, would have got more merits. Not every post will get merits.

Interesting statistics, i've just crossed the 2:1, merit:activity. On the way to cross the 2:1 post:merit, which is not that bad taking in consideration that many posts were just lists with users :)
Receiving 1 in every second post and only 2 posts in WO (i actually have 2 posts there but no merit).
Maybe i should start hunting for merit to improve those stats...

Awesome. You deserve to call as a Merit Star.

@fillippone, you also a Merit Star as well.  :)

I think you don't need it. Merits will come to your posts themselves because you always created quality and useful posts.
Got 1717 merits with the activity still 854, it is more than enough to describe your post quality and your contribution to the forum.

OMG. Don't say that, buddy. I doubt I'm one of them (shit posters).  :D
I've registered in 2017. Total posts 804, my activity 448, and merit 206. Am I a shit poster? At previous, I can say yes, but now I'm trying to be a good one.

Funnily enough I thought doing lists of users WAS merit hunting! Who’s not giving a merit to a list with your name in?
/j
/s

I get the sense of what you are saying, but bear in mind that “merit hunting” is a very loose concept. What you think is a worth and honest post, can be labelled as merit hunting by other users (happened to me in the past).

Also regarding WO, unpopular opinion: there is a lot of noise, for sure, but a lot of signal can be found there: concealed in memes, lateral humor, inside jokes, often you can find true pearls of wisdom.

Hm, my earned merit is only 561 vs activity 1708, it then puts me in a category of shit posters by your categorization. Although I do not consider myself a top poster, the fact is that I have never received a single merit from some highly ranked and respected forum members.

However, I am comforted by the fact that I am in the top 100 members by number of merit earned (76 (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Lucius)) which probably means something.

Let's put it this way: you started collecting activity long before you were able to rack merits! This is why the ratio is skewed.

Although this data belongs in this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5051725.0), I'll post it here anyway:

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User Lucius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533583) (full history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/533583.html))

• Received a total of 558 Merit up to last Friday (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3078328.new#new).
• Received 3 Merit (0.53%) for 3 (0.14%) of 2113 posts created before the introduction of Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) (0.0014 Merit per old post).
• Received 543 Merit (97.31%) for 293 (7.56%) of 3875 posts created after the introduction of Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) (0.1401 Merit per new post).
• Received 12 Merit (2.15%) for posts that are now deleted (or off-limit (Staff/VIP Section)).

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Hehe, i was excited to reach the 1000 merit for sure, but i wasn't in hurry because the lack of activity. After i hit that milestone it's not so exciting anymore as you have no ndw goals to chase. To be honest i pushed a bit only to rank up to Full Member, because I wanted to have an avatar, so there were 2-3 merit giveaways i joined. That was it.
Now does not really matters if i have merit or not, same with the signature, im just pleased to be on one of the best campaigns in the forum, its more like reputation.
What i really miss is the fun reporting those homograph cheaters, it brings a lot of pleasure to hunt them, now there are just bumping bots...

Hey pal, don’t worry to much about this ratio.
I see you are now approaching a very high number!
This only means you are trying hard to provide the forum with good content!
Keep up the good work!

Sorry, I was browsing my first posts here on the forum and found this gem!

Hahaha, but you hit him now.
but it would be cool if I quote it for you. Lol

Maybe I will requote this thread again in 2026, and see how it goes!
The post from 2018 feels so distant to me!

Lol. I was just reading this thread, thinking that you either sold your account, or this was a troll thread of some sort.

I was about to be like "bro, you have over 10,000 merit" 😂🤣

Subtle :D So you've been planning to reach the top of the Top-merited users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat) list since 2018 :D Well done, such dedication :P

You better tell me when the moment will come when your intellect will mine a whole bitcoin block with just one published post?

Of course, not in my wildest dreams did I think that would have ever become possible.
But I distinctly recall posting my first guide (the one which gave me my 100th merit) and relevant thread to surpass the merits of a certain user (not going to disclose the name, not in the top 100 merited users btw): I thought it was insulting having fewer merits than him.
And yes, I have a click for a collection of merits, charts, stats etc. In my previous life, I had quite a successful run on www.trueachievements.com

Thats OP ( Over Powered Profile) Time makes you successful thats the Only fact over here 4 years back a new user now to the one of Top Ranked Profile. Thats what we call inspiration 😉. Keep it up to the No 1 Standing with you. Topic trends now Look back from where you are standing and thank your inspiration and get more confident that you did it now nothing can stop you.

I looked at the date on this op and discovered how determined he was on joining here and focused in making constructive posts to rank up. I love his determination and it paid off for him. I wish am like him. But not everybody has the same mental ability, I know. I will keep striving to improve myself.

Actually @OP in forum context means the original poster or the person who has created the thread not over powered profile so make it correct.

Yes he has effectively managed to rank up on the forum in such a short span of time and if you see he has all the merits earned at current 10158 which is great achievement for him while others like @o_e_l_e_o has got 100 merits airdropped and still they are constantly peddling up the merit cycle.He has been motivation to many members and you can also check  this  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333.0) thread for some more help.

You can also rank up and the way could be different but the key to it is growing your knowledge for the same and keep learning from different sources you can for help.When you are curious to find answers you will solve many problems and your mental ability will also enhance so be positive about it.

I just came across this thread and i must say its a source of motivation, seeing that the op, being among those that are highly regarded on this forum today, have some point in time wanted to know how the merit system works is one that spells hope to those of us who feel the top is to high and hard to reach  ;D.
I am highly intrigued by this level of achievement in such a short period of time, this is a push to those of us still struggling to climb the ladder, to acquire more knowledge, as it is the source of power and energy required to reach the top.

I do not know why i feel you should have mentioned this user ~ Maybe because a part of me really want to compare you both right now, to see who's achieved more on the forum as of today. ;D