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March 05, 2020, 08:27:19 AM
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Edit: oh and about nullius, as I saw his name in this topic also - he is above and beyond this system Smiley nullius has not just a Merit vs. Activity ratio > 1; he has a Merits vs. Posts ratio >1 Smiley

I am at .78 right now. Working on improving this figure!

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You got me here, reviving this thread … I read it a couple of hour ago (still in the crack of dawn) and I didn’t check the date/time in the OP (nor on the answers). At first, I thought you were playing the irony card, alongside a show of (fake) ingenuity to lead others into some kind of plotted trap. As I kept on reading, it seemed pretty weird that people were playing along, and it wasn´t until I was half way through the thread that I spotted the dates …

Nah, I am a simple person. I like lateral humor, but I don't (usually) like planning traps to fellow forum members.


On the note of Merit/Activity ratio, in order to be fair, it would need a delimited timeframe to cut out or reduce the effect produced by activity generated before the Merit System kicked-off.

IF there's someone able to achiveve this result, that person is you, Sir.


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March 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
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It is hard to believe there would be many users with this ratio bigger than 5
There are a few users with low Activity (and only a few posts) and more than 5 Merit per Activity. Some of them deserved, some because they deleted all posts, and some because of Merit abuse (or mistakes).
My ratio is limited by the airdropped Merit and Activity I had already at that point.

On the note of Merit/Activity ratio, in order to be fair, it would need a delimited timeframe to cut out or reduce the effect produced by activity generated before the Merit System kicked-off.
Even better: correct it for Merit per post instead of Merit per Activity. I made a topic for that a long time ago.

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March 05, 2020, 09:03:08 AM
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<...>Even better: correct it for Merit per post instead of Merit per Activity<...>
Infact, I did that a couple of days ago, for all profiles (with a few restrictions) although I diluted it into somebody else’s thread, as it was an answer to @DooMAD’s question on the matter. I did delimit the window frame to the last running year, to get a recent reading of the ratio merit/post (see: re: I received 1 merit for exactly 10 posts on average). @fillippone complemented the information with a nice chart on that same thread (see: re: I received 1 merit for exactly 10 posts on average).
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March 05, 2020, 09:58:22 AM
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I accidentally bumped in a user with over 1k posts and almost the same merit.
Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?
Time is even scarcer than bitcoin, so I want to effectively use my time to learn from user that posted quality stuff using effectively their time!


If a account holder like you with 1:4::Activity:Merit ratio is looking up to make the contribution efficient then, I need to work harder to be effective. I am ashamed of my way of using time after reading this.

Hats off.

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March 05, 2020, 03:46:44 PM
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I figure that anybody with a higher Merit to Activity ratio must be a pretty good poster. Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

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March 05, 2020, 04:32:09 PM
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But seeing your OP now (I didn't know about its existence before), it would be interesting to see a new metric, based on Merits vs. Activity ratio.

Even better: correct it for Merit per post instead of Merit per Activity. I made a topic for that a long time ago.

I don't agree with adding merit per post/activity.
Assume that someone asks a simple question. Almost no one will answer that question. Because answering such question doesn't deserve merit and it decreases merit/post (merit/activity).

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March 05, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
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Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

Uhm... not totally. Although I claimed that merits can be earned easily if you are a decent forum member, and other members (such as nullius) thought the same, I wouldn't go that far, to think that who doesn't have at least 1:1 Merits vs. Activity ratio after 6 month is a shit poster.

Merits can be earned easy, but not that easy. But a ratio of at least 0.5 should be enough, in my oppinion, in order to differentiate a good poster from a shit poster.

Of course, this wouldn't apply to everyone, but to some (most?) of the posters.

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March 07, 2020, 08:25:33 AM
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I figure that anybody with a higher Merit to Activity ratio must be a pretty good poster. Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

No, I don't agree. It doesn't mean that if they have fewer merits, they are posting a shit post. Maybe they are posting good contents and it is not noticed or it is already posted by someone else(already discussed that point in a thread). Not every post in a thread can get merits. Some deserve merits and some do not deserve it.

Also, the users who got more merits, they would have got maximum merits on a single thread. The threads which are too good, would have got more merits. Not every post will get merits.

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March 07, 2020, 08:55:27 AM
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Interesting statistics, i've just crossed the 2:1, merit:activity. On the way to cross the 2:1 post:merit, which is not that bad taking in consideration that many posts were just lists with users Smiley
Receiving 1 in every second post and only 2 posts in WO (i actually have 2 posts there but no merit).
Maybe i should start hunting for merit to improve those stats...

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March 07, 2020, 09:22:06 AM
Last edit: March 07, 2020, 11:30:21 AM by Rengga Jati
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Receiving 1 in every second post and only 2 posts in WO
Awesome. You deserve to call as a Merit Star.

@fillippone, you also a Merit Star as well.  Smiley

Maybe i should start hunting for merit to improve those stats...
I think you don't need it. Merits will come to your posts themselves because you always created quality and useful posts.
Got 1717 merits with the activity still 854, it is more than enough to describe your post quality and your contribution to the forum.

Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.
OMG. Don't say that, buddy. I doubt I'm one of them (shit posters).  Cheesy
I've registered in 2017. Total posts 804, my activity 448, and merit 206. Am I a shit poster? At previous, I can say yes, but now I'm trying to be a good one.

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March 07, 2020, 09:24:49 AM
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Interesting statistics, i've just crossed the 2:1, merit:activity. On the way to cross the 2:1 post:merit, which is not that bad taking in consideration that many posts were just lists with users Smiley
Receiving 1 in every second post and only 2 posts in WO (i actually have 2 posts there but no merit).
Maybe i should start hunting for merit to improve those stats...
Funnily enough I thought doing lists of users WAS merit hunting! Who’s not giving a merit to a list with your name in?
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I get the sense of what you are saying, but bear in mind that “merit hunting” is a very loose concept. What you think is a worth and honest post, can be labelled as merit hunting by other users (happened to me in the past).

Also regarding WO, unpopular opinion: there is a lot of noise, for sure, but a lot of signal can be found there: concealed in memes, lateral humor, inside jokes, often you can find true pearls of wisdom.

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March 07, 2020, 11:08:22 AM
Merited by fillippone (1)
 #32

I figure that anybody with a higher Merit to Activity ratio must be a pretty good poster. Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

Hm, my earned merit is only 561 vs activity 1708, it then puts me in a category of shit posters by your categorization. Although I do not consider myself a top poster, the fact is that I have never received a single merit from some highly ranked and respected forum members.

However, I am comforted by the fact that I am in the top 100 members by number of merit earned (76) which probably means something.

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March 07, 2020, 11:15:24 AM
 #33

I figure that anybody with a higher Merit to Activity ratio must be a pretty good poster. Having less Merit than Activity once you’ve been posting regularly & registered for 6 months or more hints towards being a little bit of a shit poster.

Anybody agree?

Hm, my earned merit is only 561 vs activity 1708, it then puts me in a category of shit posters by your categorization. Although I do not consider myself a top poster, the fact is that I have never received a single merit from some highly ranked and respected forum members.

However, I am comforted by the fact that I am in the top 100 members by number of merit earned (76) which probably means something.

Let's put it this way: you started collecting activity long before you were able to rack merits! This is why the ratio is skewed.

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March 07, 2020, 11:51:58 AM
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Hm, my earned merit is only 561 vs activity 1708, it then puts me in a category of shit posters by your categorization. Although I do not consider myself a top poster, the fact is that I have never received a single merit from some highly ranked and respected forum members.
Let's put it this way: you started collecting activity long before you were able to rack merits! This is why the ratio is skewed.
Although this data belongs in this topic, I'll post it here anyway:

User Lucius (full history)
  • Received a total of 558 Merit up to last Friday.
  • Received 3 Merit (0.53%) for 3 (0.14%) of 2113 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0014 Merit per old post).
  • Received 543 Merit (97.31%) for 293 (7.56%) of 3875 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1401 Merit per new post).
  • Received 12 Merit (2.15%) for posts that are now deleted (or off-limit (Staff/VIP Section)).


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March 07, 2020, 03:16:40 PM
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Interesting statistics, i've just crossed the 2:1, merit:activity. On the way to cross the 2:1 post:merit, which is not that bad taking in consideration that many posts were just lists with users Smiley
Receiving 1 in every second post and only 2 posts in WO (i actually have 2 posts there but no merit).
Maybe i should start hunting for merit to improve those stats...
Funnily enough I thought doing lists of users WAS merit hunting! Who’s not giving a merit to a list with your name in?
/j
/s

I get the sense of what you are saying, but bear in mind that “merit hunting” is a very loose concept. What you think is a worth and honest post, can be labelled as merit hunting by other users (happened to me in the past).

Also regarding WO, unpopular opinion: there is a lot of noise, for sure, but a lot of signal can be found there: concealed in memes, lateral humor, inside jokes, often you can find true pearls of wisdom.

Hehe, i was excited to reach the 1000 merit for sure, but i wasn't in hurry because the lack of activity. After i hit that milestone it's not so exciting anymore as you have no ndw goals to chase. To be honest i pushed a bit only to rank up to Full Member, because I wanted to have an avatar, so there were 2-3 merit giveaways i joined. That was it.
Now does not really matters if i have merit or not, same with the signature, im just pleased to be on one of the best campaigns in the forum, its more like reputation.
What i really miss is the fun reporting those homograph cheaters, it brings a lot of pleasure to hunt them, now there are just bumping bots...

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July 24, 2022, 03:49:35 PM
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Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.


Hey pal, don’t worry to much about this ratio.
I see you are now approaching a very high number!
This only means you are trying hard to provide the forum with good content!
Keep up the good work!

Sorry, I was browsing my first posts here on the forum and found this gem!




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Sorry, I was browsing my first posts here on the forum and found this gem!
Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.
Hahaha, but you hit him now.
but it would be cool if I quote it for you. Lol

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Hey pal, don’t worry to much about this ratio.
I see you are now approaching a very high number!
This only means you are trying hard to provide the forum with good content!
Keep up the good work!

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July 24, 2022, 04:59:02 PM
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Sorry, I was browsing my first posts here on the forum and found this gem!
Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.
Hahaha, but you hit him now.
but it would be cool if I quote it for you. Lol

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Hey pal, don’t worry to much about this ratio.
I see you are now approaching a very high number!
This only means you are trying hard to provide the forum with good content!
Keep up the good work!

Maybe I will requote this thread again in 2026, and see how it goes!
The post from 2018 feels so distant to me!

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July 24, 2022, 10:22:24 PM
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Hello,
I am quite new to this board, so I am trying to provide the best post I could as I find the merit system a good way to raise the signal/noise ratio.


Hey pal, don’t worry to much about this ratio.
I see you are now approaching a very high number!
This only means you are trying hard to provide the forum with good content!
Keep up the good work!
Lol. I was just reading this thread, thinking that you either sold your account, or this was a troll thread of some sort.

I was about to be like "bro, you have over 10,000 merit" 😂🤣
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July 25, 2022, 08:40:54 AM
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Is there a way to have a ranking of best user sorted with high ratio?
Subtle Cheesy So you've been planning to reach the top of the Top-merited users list since 2018 Cheesy Well done, such dedication Tongue

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