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Title: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: seriouscoin on February 17, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
This is bad, Dogechain is officially forked. Pools operators are mining on different blockchains.

Do not send your dogecoins until the pools agree on one blockchain.

Last time when a fork happened to Feathercoin, the whole currency went down the toilet. :/ This is due to greed ppl. Stupid miners mine on one fcking large pool


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: yuriygeorge on February 17, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
So when should I withdraw coins from an exchange? Should I wait until it settles, or should I gamble taking some out now on my 1.5 client?


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Korean on February 17, 2014, 08:40:32 PM
51%?


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Nullu on February 17, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
This is bad, Dogechain is officially forked. Pools operators are mining on different blockchains.

Do not send your dogecoins until the pools agree on one blockchain.

Last time when a fork happened to Feathercoin, the whole currency went down the toilet. :/ This is due to greed ppl. Stupid miners mine on one fcking large pool


I don't blame the miners.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: WompRat on February 17, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
The 1.5 client is fine.  The issue is with the 1.4 client which some pools were using because of performance issues with 1.5.  The pools are now switching to 1.5 or implementing the fix.  All the exchanges are running 1.5 as far as I am aware, Cryptsy certainly is.

This wasn't a 51% attack.

Technical summary here:  http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1y5quc/serious_pool_owners_and_community_we_need_your/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1y5quc/serious_pool_owners_and_community_we_need_your/)

No need to panic, though I think it would be appropriate to try to get a version of 1.5 that solves the pool miner's issues out as soon as possible.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: flounderella on February 17, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
My God! Who in their right minds would fork Dogecoin. What monsters out there!!!


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Hazard on February 17, 2014, 10:00:24 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: PyroClasTix on February 17, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
Any update on this?


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: WompRat on February 17, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.

I think it is a bit early for blaming people Hazard.  From what I have seen there were no issues with the 1.4 version of dogecoin which was running the Luckycoin code.  When they upgraded to the Litecoin code in 1.5, it appears several mining pools encountered problems.  It is quite possible that these performance problems that caused the pools to revert to 1.4 exist in Litecoin too.  In retrospect perhaps they should have realized the potential problems of running 2 different databases (BerkeleyDB and LevelDB) and made the upgrade mandatory or issued a 1.4 fix then, especially given bitcoin had the same issue, but they probably weren't aware so many pools had reverted.

The devs are working on the reasons why 1.5 is slow for pools,  but otherwise I think we can consider this fixed.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: wasamata on February 17, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
wish the idiot dumping would get a life, or maybe find the highest window  ::)
what a bunch of doge pussies


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: achillez on February 17, 2014, 11:00:30 PM
so fork so fail so dogecoin


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: wasamata on February 17, 2014, 11:03:37 PM
such trolling
much failing


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: bramvnl on February 17, 2014, 11:20:09 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=471754.0

new wallet


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: iampingu on February 17, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.

I think it is a bit early for blaming people Hazard.  From what I have seen there were no issues with the 1.4 version of dogecoin which was running the Luckycoin code.  When they upgraded to the Litecoin code in 1.5, it appears several mining pools encountered problems.  It is quite possible that these performance problems that caused the pools to revert to 1.4 exist in Litecoin too.  In retrospect perhaps they should have realized the potential problems of running 2 different databases (BerkeleyDB and LevelDB) and made the upgrade mandatory or issued a 1.4 fix then, especially given bitcoin had the same issue, but they probably weren't aware so many pools had reverted.

The devs are working on the reasons why 1.5 is slow for pools,  but otherwise I think we can consider this fixed.

Hazard is usually correct


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Ximp on February 17, 2014, 11:31:40 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.

At least they don't shill for scam artists! I'll take incompetent over a corrupt writing hack any day!


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Hazard on February 17, 2014, 11:34:53 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.

I think it is a bit early for blaming people Hazard.  From what I have seen there were no issues with the 1.4 version of dogecoin which was running the Luckycoin code.  When they upgraded to the Litecoin code in 1.5, it appears several mining pools encountered problems.  It is quite possible that these performance problems that caused the pools to revert to 1.4 exist in Litecoin too.  In retrospect perhaps they should have realized the potential problems of running 2 different databases (BerkeleyDB and LevelDB) and made the upgrade mandatory or issued a 1.4 fix then, especially given bitcoin had the same issue, but they probably weren't aware so many pools had reverted.

The devs are working on the reasons why 1.5 is slow for pools,  but otherwise I think we can consider this fixed.
If you're at the helm of a coin with a $70m market cap, and you push out an update plagued by a well documented issue... Might be time to find a new hobby. I imagine some exchanges are going to get burned hard by this fork.

Ah, who am I kidding... The dogedevs probably weren't even around when bitcoin was struck by this issue.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Ximp on February 17, 2014, 11:39:56 PM
Hey Hazard, how's Stablecoin doing?  ::)


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Spoetnik on February 17, 2014, 11:47:57 PM
My God! Who in their right minds would fork Dogecoin. What monsters out there!!!

ME ;)

i will ensure your scam coin is dead..

see my sig too :)


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: wasamata on February 18, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
My God! Who in their right minds would fork Dogecoin. What monsters out there!!!

ME ;)

i will ensure your scam coin is dead..

see my sig too :)

How nice of you, you sound like such a lovely person!

How about you try this: Go Fork Yourself!


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: jubalix on February 18, 2014, 12:56:26 AM
its ok, BTC got through this, and went on stronger just a cheap coins event.

FTC was forked for a different reason.

The devs may want to think about how LTC has attracted real talent, e.g. wogtami.

I am sure Doge can raise a massive dev fund, 1doge's for a dev fund that will attract some quality talent.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Spoetnik on February 18, 2014, 06:42:34 AM
Fork me ? no SPORK yoooooou ;)

but seriously though guys this is one of the issues i have harped about for a year almost..
what do you do when a coin has huge problems and the guy who put it out simply copied and pasted someone else's code ?
now lets hear all, the stupid little reasons why that is ok....
even though any coder on planet earth KNOWS damn well you should not use code you do not understand.

but but i made some btc !
and and your ugly and your mother dresses you funny..
and and and i don't like you..
and and your just jealous..
and your just mad..

did i miss one ?

lets hear the usual change the subject and attack people personally fanboyism routine while you defend the utterly ridiculous..

never mind.. i can get a higher quality conversation from what i left in the toilet earlier :/


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: WompRat on February 18, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Spoetnik,

I think if you view all crypto currencies as experiments you would be less angry about dogecoin or any other pure clone.  Most coins have something to contribute, whether that be in the investigation of the proof of stake method, programmable block chains or in dogecoin's case - an experiment in marketing,  social usage and rapid coin mining.

Dogecoin wasn't supposed to be anything more than a fun project, but it is still allowing us insights into how the market reacts to coin inflation, halvings and in about a year, if it is still going, will show us whether miners will support a fully mined out coin.  I think these are important things to understand if crypto is going to have a future.  A coin can be useful even if it doesn't add anything new to the code base and I don't agree that it detracts from bitcoin, litecoin or the others.

It would be nice if every open source project could have a full time development team, but it is just never going to happen.  Bugs are always going to be there and we need to rely on the goodwill of developers and testers who contribute in their spare time, but have full time jobs and families to look after too.  It was ever thus with open source.  If a developer like Satoshi gets bored and leaves you have to hope that there is someone with the competence to take it forward.  


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Predseda4D on February 19, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
Bravo, dogecoin devs! Incompetent as always.

I think it is a bit early for blaming people Hazard.  From what I have seen there were no issues with the 1.4 version of dogecoin which was running the Luckycoin code.  When they upgraded to the Litecoin code in 1.5, it appears several mining pools encountered problems.  It is quite possible that these performance problems that caused the pools to revert to 1.4 exist in Litecoin too.  In retrospect perhaps they should have realized the potential problems of running 2 different databases (BerkeleyDB and LevelDB) and made the upgrade mandatory or issued a 1.4 fix then, especially given bitcoin had the same issue, but they probably weren't aware so many pools had reverted.

The devs are working on the reasons why 1.5 is slow for pools,  but otherwise I think we can consider this fixed.
If you're at the helm of a coin with a $70m market cap, and you push out an update plagued by a well documented issue... Might be time to find a new hobby. I imagine some exchanges are going to get burned hard by this fork.

Ah, who am I kidding... The dogedevs probably weren't even around when bitcoin was struck by this issue.

Stop spreading FUD, please.

No one here understand that this fork was caused by pools that were using old 1.4.x version?
Old version vs new version was 1/4th vs 3/4th.   ::)
Because some pool operators fucked up so this is mistake of Dogecoin devs?!? Common!!!

I understand that hating Dogecoin is sport here but please dont spread FUD, thank you.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: quone17 on February 19, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
What do the devs care now?  They just wanted a new coin to pump and if it fails, they already made their thousands (of fiat I'm sure).

The pool operators chose to remain with 1.4 because 1.5 stunk.  That's the way it works, they have to make 1.5 better or else this will happen again.


Title: Re: DOGECOIN IS FORKED!!!! Check dogechain and its already hardforked
Post by: Predseda4D on February 19, 2014, 04:45:46 PM
What do the devs care now?  They just wanted a new coin to pump and if it fails, they already made their thousands (of fiat I'm sure).

The pool operators chose to remain with 1.4 because 1.5 stunk.  That's the way it works, they have to make 1.5 better or else this will happen again.

Next FUD about devs dont care? Look at github!
Next FUD about devs wanted pump and make their thousands? Look at decission about inflation!

Not all pool operators choose to remain with 1.4. Majority of pools were and are with 1.5 without any problems!!!