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Title: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: webb315 on July 25, 2018, 07:49:21 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: talkbitcoin on July 25, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
at the end of the day bitcoin is still a global currency and is being traded mainly on exchanges all around the world not just in US or in SEC approved places through ETFs!
which means with or without ETF bitcoin will continue on its own path and with its increasing adoption as a currency by merchants and customers the price of it will continue to rise.

in short ETF is just a short term hype that is disturbing that rise by making it faster now and possibly cause drops soon but it can not change the inevitable rise.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: avikz on July 25, 2018, 09:08:48 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

It is most unlikely that ETFs will make any negative impact. If a big corporate comes to the bitcoin market, it will make positive impact only and nothing else. However, we don't yet know what kind of ETFs will those be! There are mainly two types of ETFs,

1. Synthetic ETF - which doesn't hold any physical asset and plays on the price fluctuation of the attached asset.
2. Physical ETF - Actually holds physical asset

So if these ETFs are in question starts holding physical bitcoin, they will actually have to buy those from the open market and fresh funds will flow into the market. That is going to make positive impact for sure. However, if these ETFs are planning to introduce synthetic funds, then no fresh funds will flow into the market and no positive impact is likely to be shown.

Since we don't yet know what kind it is, it's better to wait and watch the outcome. THE rest of your questions can be answered once we have the details of these ETFs available with us.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: bontkoli01 on July 28, 2018, 06:35:32 AM
Not really. In fact if more companies, especially the giants get involved in the market, it will be a great thing indeed for the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Niggasdonttalktome on July 28, 2018, 06:50:53 AM
you right, btc have a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy, but it's still a day far away from now.
with ETF or without it, I think btc still the same.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: BraveHeadlight on July 28, 2018, 03:10:55 PM
Even if SEC's verdict goes the other way which is very unlikely to happen, it won't leave much impact on crypto market. Bitcoin and other ALTs have been there for a long time, with upcoming advancements of blockchain it is more likely to remain the same or even grow in numbers in the future. So, these coins will remain the same no matter what SEC approves of.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: NervousWolf on July 28, 2018, 08:26:26 PM
I don't think ETF sanction can make a negative impact on the recent market rather, Bitcoin ETF will be backed by Bitcoin as the underlying asset. If big investors join the market then it will be profitable for everyone as BTC will see increased demand which means the price will increase too.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Adeforever on July 28, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
Unpredictable by now because we have not yet known there decision either favourable or not, if its possible it will have great impact and when negative it will affect it.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: stefy77 on July 28, 2018, 08:56:21 PM
Of course yes. A new denial could once again bring bitcoin down.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: focacho1 on July 28, 2018, 09:22:19 PM
Of course yes. A new denial could once again bring bitcoin down.
I think that ETF desicion will be positive now. Government doesn't interested to block crypto at all. Many institutionals are going to use crypto. And government needs to control it, not refuse.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: cryptohopes on July 30, 2018, 10:33:11 AM
Now a days bitcoin hold a huge platform of cryptocurrency. So, if ETFs makes a negative impact that will be directly felt affect on crypto world. Then it’s will be  make contradiction to get accepted from SEC.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: LuckyHarriet on July 30, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
Actually, none can say what is going to happen in the future as applies to Crypto-market. ETF most probably is going to make a positive impact rather than it can make negative on its own in the market. ETF hype making market rising BTC prices and if got approved it may cause a large number of industries investing in BTC. More we can wait and see for now.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Naficopa on July 30, 2018, 01:11:15 PM
Of course yes. A new denial could once again bring bitcoin down.

The latest ETF decision remains virtually without a negative impact on the market. The price remains at a similar level before the decision was announced. Bitcoin is doing quite well without ETF.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: notyours on July 30, 2018, 02:08:18 PM
at the end of the day bitcoin is still a global currency and is being traded mainly on exchanges all around the world not just in US or in SEC approved places through ETFs!
which means with or without ETF bitcoin will continue on its own path and with its increasing adoption as a currency by merchants and customers the price of it will continue to rise.

in short ETF is just a short term hype that is disturbing that rise by making it faster now and possibly cause drops soon but it can not change the inevitable rise.
I agree with you, The ETF Decision may cause a hype on bitcoin and may be the result of the price increase but it will also fall when it is over. Rightly you said sir!


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: cryptoteen on July 30, 2018, 02:25:56 PM
ETF can make Bitcoin an even more scarce asset and would likely drive the price much higher. Therefore, those who use Bitcoin as a currency should be happy with the decision as removing such a large number of Bitcoin from circulation will make it even less stable and subject to being controlled and manipulated by instructional money.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kprawn on July 30, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
You cannot be more wrong! The ETFs will make volatility even worst, because a lot of these investors have Billions of Dollars to

influence the Supply & Demand. The institutional investors have access to large amounts of Fiat and they can dump as quickly

as they can buy in large quantities. The spikes might be much bigger and more frequent, than what it is now.  ::) This is why

I was one of the people that was glad in a way that the ETFs were not approved.  :P


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: BrewMaster on July 30, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
the approval of ETF can not have any negative impact, even the Futures markets didn't have a negative impact in my opinion despite what some people say.
it is all like an approval of bitcoin in first place and then it will attract more money into bitcoin. even if a small part of that money realizes the true nature of bitcoin (as a decentralized currency not just an investment) we can see a big growth in its future.

even its rejection wouldn't have a negative impact exactly. it would be a temporary drop in price only and nothing else. we never had ETF in the past 9+ years and if that doesn't change we wouldn't mind it one bit!


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: tegarp90 on July 30, 2018, 03:17:12 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

I think there's no negative impact from our side (Cryptocurrency owner)
It will be a "jumping stone" for bitcoin and world will know bitcoin more and think bitcoin more valuable than before


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: ETHxn4BTC on July 30, 2018, 03:50:14 PM
I believe that if Bitcoin approves EFT it will have a positive effect. By doing so, Bitcoin will improve the IC, the field will increase, the growth rate will increase. Investment security will be much higher than before. As a result, people will be interested to invest more than ever before.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TungayETH on July 30, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
The ETF decision will not have any negative impact on the bitcoin. I think it will have a more positive effect. Bitcoin fields will expand. People's interest will increase, they will increase the investment. Bitcoin will provide better services than before.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: niteroy on July 30, 2018, 04:29:19 PM
Many crypto enthusiasts are sure that the decision on ETF Bitcoin will only contribute to the growth of the Bitcoin price and the popularity of other cryptocurrencies. Negatively, only the refusal of SEC to accept ETF Bitcoin, but only slightly lowering the price of Bitcoin, can be reflected. In general, the growth of Bitcoin's popularity continues.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: lelilulu on July 30, 2018, 04:36:51 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.
Yes I believe some people will use this news for gain a profit. They will dump the market and then buy at low price. Very easy to make FOMO in the world of cryptocurrency. I suggest in this situation we follow the rules, but if you want to hodling that's not bad choice.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: markluis on July 31, 2018, 01:00:20 AM
In my opinion, SEC will definitely sanction Bitcoin ETF, and this sanction will not have any negative impact on the crypto market. Demand for BTC will keep growing because of the hype created by the recent news.  :'(


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Siren on July 31, 2018, 01:47:05 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

I believe that there will be no negative effect when talking cryptocurrencies and ETF since this will boost the bitcoin price and as we all know that if bitcoin grows then the altcoin will benefits,maybe the effect for the alts will take long but it will still.and besides why need to look for negativity when all we aim is positive as this eas denied for more than half year now


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Phlaser on July 31, 2018, 04:56:57 AM
I think ETF will bring institutional investors which should facilitate adoption, if the big players are in those sitting on the fence will reconsider thier position.
Either ways, crypto needs both ETF and mainstream adoption. Whichever comes first is still a crypto win.





Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Juggy777 on July 31, 2018, 05:07:46 AM
No there won't be any negative impact as this bitcoins etf was always going to be rejected as it was not properly submitted there were many loopholes and the main etf is of cboe that'll be in March 2019, which is expected to pass and there won't be any issue to that and when it does pass it'll take prices of bitcoins to the roof so wait for it.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: gasparyu on July 31, 2018, 07:38:20 AM
It will have a positive iimpact. ETF approval can persuade more people to invest. But with or without etf bitcoin will continue to rise and nothing can change that.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: wizardcrypto on August 31, 2018, 11:26:21 AM
The decision can crash bitcoin if they make any negative decision against  bitcoin. they control the foreign exchange and  they have the abilty to crack down exchanges .Their act alone will scare investors away from trading in bitcoin . the negative impact  will not be good for us all.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: kzozenberg on August 31, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
I don't think ETFs will have a bad effect on the bitcoin price on the contrary I think it will cause more interest in It.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: JMD07 on August 31, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
bitcoin has the popularity and it's been trading all over the world. this will not need any approval from SEC or ETF as the investors will patronize this coins for better profits. With or without ETF this technology will continue.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Fretcy on August 31, 2018, 12:01:11 PM
          What ever happens Bitcoin will stay as usual as a global currency that means with or without ETF, Bitcoin will remain even ETF is approved or not . Bitcoin will continue its growth by merchants and customers and the value of Bitcoin will rise . In short ETF is a short time hype there are two types of ETF , the synthetical and physical ETF  . the synthetical ETF holds any physical asset and plays on the price fluctuation and physical actually holds physical assets .


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Sutters Mill on August 31, 2018, 12:07:13 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

So do you want volatility or stability? Sounds just like you want to profit from it in the short term just by trading which you can do with or without this, but I can't believe you're looking for negatives with the ETF decision. The ETF is great for bitcoin both in short and long-term. More adoption is better for everyone and bitcoin as a whole and this is what everyone should want, but it's not the be all and end of bitcoin adoption and there are bigger things than this down the road. Regardless of how short-lived or not the hype is it's something that is out of our control anyway, but it's certainly not a bad thing.  


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: chocolah29 on August 31, 2018, 12:17:41 PM
Of course yes. A new denial could once again bring bitcoin down.

The latest ETF decision remains virtually without a negative impact on the market. The price remains at a similar level before the decision was announced. Bitcoin is doing quite well without ETF.

Bitcoin in fact can survive without this ETF and it's actually just a new way of whales on how they manipulate the market. They're like using this issue to create fuds to people and every denied application means more people who will lose trust to bitcoin as so they'll dump. The delay on approval on ETF can push through any time this year, as long as the whales isn't done to accumulate.

And the moment we are used to this ETF issue and they see we're not that affected, they surely do something new.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Ayush rana on August 31, 2018, 12:22:16 PM
Obvious ETF decision make negative effects on crypto price. recently there was an event in which etf rejected for regulation.
This news made tension in the investors mind.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: RasenShuriken on August 31, 2018, 12:32:21 PM
Yes, most of the people got FUD because of the ETF deadline and I don't know why. Due to the ETF got rejected somedays ago, I hope ETF can't affect bitcoin again.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: quandrel on August 31, 2018, 12:38:17 PM
In the near future, crypto money will be the most common payment method. the volume is low for the moment. As the volume grows, the ups and downs will be slower. because buying and selling will take up less space in volume.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Olayinka225 on December 25, 2018, 07:31:27 PM
No I don't think it will have a negative impact but rather a catalyst that will decide the market in history, but still yet let us not forget that every good thing will always comes with some deficits


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Idoe on December 25, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
It seems that the ETF's decision does not have a bad effect on the growth of bitcoin, bitcoin is expanding and many people will be using bitcoin.
ETFs can still learn bitcoin to be able to make the best decisions.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Irdina on December 25, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
at the end of the day bitcoin is still a global currency and is being traded mainly on exchanges all around the world not just in US or in SEC approved places through ETFs!
which means with or without ETF bitcoin will continue on its own path and with its increasing adoption as a currency by merchants and customers the price of it will continue to rise.

in short ETF is just a short term hype that is disturbing that rise by making it faster now and possibly cause drops soon but it can not change the inevitable rise.
I agree with you, ETF are only bitcoin bullies, and I am sure that after ETF agree that the price of bitcoin will fly high ... a year of bitcoin has dropped and now is the time to rise slowly.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: bayu7adi on December 26, 2018, 12:12:21 AM
Yesterday's ETF did not have a negative impact on bitcoin, the refusal of yesterday's ETF did not significantly change the price of bitcoin
but the story will be different if the ETF some time ago passes and is accepted, maybe the BTC price will rise by 50% and now it might be in the range of 10k USD
so the reason why ETFs can cause bitcoin prices to improve is because more people will start to recognize cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kopyleft on December 26, 2018, 04:58:03 AM
so the reason why ETFs can cause bitcoin prices to improve is because more people will start to recognize cryptocurrency

No one needs ETF to recognize bitcoins, most who are interested are already familiar with the concept and the technology.
ETF is an avenue for investors to enter the cryptocurrency space, indirectly. They'd be holding traditional shares and stocks which would represent it's worth in bitcoin.
It is believes that it would attract institutional investors.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 26, 2018, 06:25:46 AM
Yesterday's ETF did not have a negative impact on bitcoin, the refusal of yesterday's ETF did not significantly change the price of bitcoin

lol, i didn't even know there was an ETF rejection yesterday. that is how the hype of ETFs are dead right now which is what i have been saying for a couple of months now. the hype was hot only about 6 months ago when people were still hopeful for their approval which is why it had negative effects but they all have given up that hope already.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kakmakr on December 26, 2018, 06:49:58 AM
The rumors are that ETF's will be bringing large amounts of investments into Bitcoin, but there are no guarantees for that. These investors are very cautious about their investments, not like Bitcoin supporters that will hodl when there are a 80% fall in the price.

As soon as there are the slightest bad news in the media, these investors will pull their investments from these Bitcoin ETFs and we will see mass panic situations a lot more.

I would much rather have investors that are knowledgeable about Bitcoin than a bunch of trigger happy profit hunters.  ::)


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: rudox on December 26, 2018, 07:04:53 AM
It is a new aspect of crypto/stock combination which will be in trial from next year first quarter. I personally do not know much about how it will impact on the crypto market but I am feeling that it will positively impact on the crypto market. It has been what all crypto enthusiasts have been waiting for to aid the rally the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Dreamace7 on December 26, 2018, 07:34:42 AM
Obviously the ETF decision can make a huge negative affect on bitcoin if things doesn't go well and also huge positive impact if all things go well so it's like a two way path thing


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 26, 2018, 07:51:38 AM
Obviously the ETF decision can make a huge negative affect on bitcoin if things doesn't go well and also huge positive impact if all things go well so it's like a two way path thing
However I feel the path is already chosen. There are big whales manipulating the market, unregulated trading of crypto and the traditional investors are aware of this. So if an ETF was accepted it would not become a popular thing among them to invest in.

It might cause an immediate pump due to some over enthusiastic bagholders of crypto (not traditional investors) and then gradually dump and bleed out. Unless there are more clear regulations put on crypto or legal systems being used to enforce trades there wont be any good effect of the ETF.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Callanta787 on December 26, 2018, 07:58:49 AM
With or without ETF things will work out for cryptocurrency on the long run but actually if ETF do come in place things with work out faster for cryptocurrency in general ,same thing goes to bakkt too this will have positive impact on cryptocurrency adoption


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Akpuv on December 26, 2018, 09:26:14 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.
Depending of the outcome of the ETF around early 2019, it could have a positive impact on cryptocurrency market if Bitcoin application is accepted. Those currently sitting on the fence regarding crypto will finally jump in to invest in crypto. That means more adoption.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: alex_gr_cc on December 26, 2018, 11:14:37 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.
Depending of the outcome of the ETF around early 2019, it could have a positive impact on cryptocurrency market if Bitcoin application is accepted. Those currently sitting on the fence regarding crypto will finally jump in to invest in crypto. That means more adoption.



It is likely that after the adoption of the ETF market will go up. But I would not be so sure. Institutional investors are interested in stabilizing the market. Therefore, prices may remain unchanged.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: petrcoin on December 26, 2018, 01:47:38 PM
No to etf decision would make a limited negative impact. But it is not permanent because there is no etf right now. But yes to etf could bring lots of value to bitcoin because it means a big market is entering into bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: SistaFista on December 28, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

I guess the SEC decision about ETF will affecting the price of cryptocurrency in the market.
There is a chance that the price will skyrocketing, but there is a possibility for the price to falling if the ETF rejected.
Anyway, although there are several factors that can affecting the crypto price, the SEC decision is the one of the factors.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: gesdan on December 28, 2018, 03:18:49 AM
not only for ETF, but all big instance can also make the negative or positive impact for bitcoin if they tell about something new about bitcoin it will very affect the bitcoin condition. fake news and real news always affect the bitcoin


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: bitfocus on December 28, 2018, 02:03:16 PM
nope, it would rather boost up investing.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: CryptoToxicAvenger on December 28, 2018, 04:44:23 PM
I don't think ETFs can cause negative consequences. After all, its adoption will allow all major investors to trade bitcoins freely under the control of the regulator. This should have a positive impact on the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: miropp on December 28, 2018, 08:28:43 PM
I think the ETF may not have a negative impact. After all, its adoption is on the contrary good news for investors. Perhaps it will not bring rapid growth of cryptocurrency, but it will definitely change the market for the better, I believe.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 29, 2018, 09:46:11 AM
not only for ETF, but all big instance can also make the negative or positive impact for bitcoin if they tell about something new about bitcoin it will very affect the bitcoin condition. fake news and real news always affect the bitcoin
The market is affected by news but the weight-age of that news is also important. Some news will manage to move the market by a greater extent  than other news. Its what the effect of psychological impact the news has on people's minds for those who are into the market. Its better to let the ETF be as it is. If it gets accepted well and good, if it does not well nothing to worry.

nope, it would rather boost up investing.
Better get up with knowing the news on the market before commenting my friend. Previous ETF denials affected the market badly as per popular demand. To what extent they were influenced by those specific news is still a matter of debate.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Ayush rana on January 02, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
Yes ETF decision can impact negatively on price of cryptocurrency, because it will lead to generate negative perception in the people mind and we have seen how panic selling took place recently when negative news came. any BAD decision can ruin the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Vaculin on January 03, 2019, 08:18:22 AM
Yes ETF decision can impact negatively on price of cryptocurrency, because it will lead to generate negative perception in the people mind and we have seen how panic selling took place recently when negative news came. any BAD decision can ruin the price of bitcoin.
What if it's about approval, I guess it would go the other way.
ETH has been a hot topic last year, we got disapproved, the decision was postponed, but this year I have a feeling that it will be approve.
SEC already had given a lot of time to review, and this year they will make a decision, their positive answer will result to a positive market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: incomefromcoins on January 03, 2019, 09:52:58 AM
In Feb 2019 they are more than 20 ETFs awaiting for approval we can see the market react positively and turn to bull run thereafter


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 04, 2019, 09:35:17 AM
Yes ETF decision can impact negatively on price of cryptocurrency, because it will lead to generate negative perception in the people mind and we have seen how panic selling took place recently when negative news came. any BAD decision can ruin the price of bitcoin.
The effect of the news may not be directly related to the market movement. People say so but how much weight-age a news has on a price is still debatable. An ETF being delayed did seem to move the market temporarily or it could be manipulated by whales who were tipped off about the news. Dont take everything to be connected here, even though it may seem so.

A bad news does negatively affect the market but there may be other factors as well. Do no listen to what the news always says because they are heavily incentivised to tell those news.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: manfredmann on January 04, 2019, 09:39:15 AM
Yes this can influence investors decision making as this is a talk of legality about bitcoin or cryptocurrency. If bitcoin will not be adapted by the government then for sure it could no longer work on for good and people will dump bitcoin anyway because it has no real value and only users or people can dictate the certain market price of bitcoin with their demand and the supply of bitcoin or any of the crypto.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: FedorIzmailov on January 04, 2019, 11:42:33 AM
of course it can. I don’t understand why everyone decided that it would have a positive impact on the market because there’s nothing good in it


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: petrcoin on January 04, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
If etf get approved there is not a single reason it can make a negative impact. If dismissal still, it can be approved in the future so very limited negative impact.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Marbelli on January 04, 2019, 12:28:42 PM
If there is positive news about futures, then this can in no way have a negative impact on the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: incomefromcoins on January 04, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
Etf decision can be a sensitive reaction for cryptocurrency traders the most important market decision from last many months hopefully this first quarter etf decision turn positive and mark a bull rally for investors


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: CryptoBry on January 04, 2019, 04:15:15 PM


In my own humble opinion, I would say that nobody knows for sure the long-term effect of ETF to Bitcoin. On the short-term basis, there is a big possibility that the price of Bitcoin can go up wildly but it can be because of the excitement in the market that the approval can generate. Well, we are all hoping that it can be the start of the big bull run but there is no guarantee for that as things will eventually boil down to supply and demand which means that if ETF can be the medium for more demand then we can it can be really helpful and can be the game-changing factor we might be looking for Bitcoin. However, if institutional money will not reacting that much or if the level of reaction could not be sustained then it can just be short-lived kind of thing.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: virasog on January 04, 2019, 04:58:06 PM
Yes this can influence investors decision making as this is a talk of legality about bitcoin or cryptocurrency. If bitcoin will not be adapted by the government then for sure it could no longer work on for good and people will dump bitcoin anyway because it has no real value and only users or people can dictate the certain market price of bitcoin with their demand and the supply of bitcoin or any of the crypto.


ETF Decision will make a big impact on bitcoin adaption and price. It will determine the future of bitcoin and digital currencies. People are waiting for the ETF decision from last six months and everyone is believing that ETF positive news will result in more adaption and it will increase more volume of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: UmerIdrees on January 04, 2019, 04:59:13 PM


In my own humble opinion, I would say that nobody knows for sure the long-term effect of ETF to Bitcoin. On the short-term basis, there is a big possibility that the price of Bitcoin can go up wildly but it can be because of the excitement in the market that the approval can generate. Well, we are all hoping that it can be the start of the big bull run but there is no guarantee for that as things will eventually boil down to supply and demand which means that if ETF can be the medium for more demand then we can it can be really helpful and can be the game-changing factor we might be looking for Bitcoin. However, if institutional money will not reacting that much or if the level of reaction could not be sustained then it can just be short-lived kind of thing.

If the bitcoin etf  is not approved it will really be bad news for bitcoins and price may dump hard as everyone is expecting that etf will be approved and any negative news may not be easily digestible and may bring market more down.



Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: maldini on January 04, 2019, 06:10:39 PM
Of course, many people are hoping for bitcoin and when the ETF decision is not what they expect, it could make them die of bitcoin and surely people will flock to sell their assets before the market gets worse. If the FUD can affect the market then what about the ETF's decision, of course it will have an effect


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Bitbtc8 on January 04, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
At first I want to say bitcoin will survive without ETF approval but since we never saw any better price shoting up last year December I'm actually starting to think bitcoin does needs ETF ,halving is still months away and bakkt has been postponed again but bakkt did drop huge millions and wall street do the same so we are actually progressive ,with ETF there will be huge changes for cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: blackhawkeye1912 on January 04, 2019, 09:07:01 PM
The approval of Bitcoin ETF by SEC will sure bring a positive impact on the bitcoin price. Investirs would feel more confident with the status of bitcoin being recognize by the government. While a disapproval will somehow bring a negative feelings again from investors, though the negative effect may cooled down in a short time.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: shoreno on January 04, 2019, 10:35:58 PM

Yes it does  .  people tend to  assume about the etf approval but if they know that etf didnt approve bitcoin , many people will felt so sad and depressed  but it cant affect the price because the price will still remain on what they are now . 

Now if etf got approved bitcoin   , i think it can bring positive effects to the price because the price can probably rise up  and this can also result for other people to invest more coins  .


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Eildosa on January 05, 2019, 12:04:25 AM
I think that this decision will definitely not lead to negative consequences. There will be either positive consequences or nothing will happen. I think that everything will be fine and this decision will be a turning point for the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: mangsitin on January 05, 2019, 01:35:04 AM
I think that this decision will definitely not lead to negative consequences. There will be either positive consequences or nothing will happen. I think that everything will be fine and this decision will be a turning point for the market.
I think ETFs are very important for the continuity of current bitcoin prices, because if Bitcoin is approved by the SEC then Bitcoin officially becomes a legitimate trade on American exchanges. So if it is approved, I hope that it will cause Investors to come to buy Bitcoin, but if it is not approved, the price is likely to fall again.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: jessyj48 on January 05, 2019, 05:53:12 AM
The price will shoot up if ETF get approved but that doesn't mean it can't ever fall down again ,up and down is what makes cryptocurrency stable ,profits when high and buying at cheaper rates when low .


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: jcarlo on January 05, 2019, 07:59:33 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

I think if SEC approve bitcoin ETF, the price will rising and daily transaction volume will growing bigger. ETF trading will leads big investor to cryptocurrency market and makes bitcoin holder more optimistic about bitcoin future. Good news will leads price increasing


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: MidKnight on January 05, 2019, 12:06:18 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

I think if SEC approve bitcoin ETF, the price will rising and daily transaction volume will growing bigger. ETF trading will leads big investor to cryptocurrency market and makes bitcoin holder more optimistic about bitcoin future. Good news will leads price increasing

I'm also expecting that but we all know that SEC is very hard to please and it feels like they are very allergic to cryptos. Just imagine that there are big ETFs last year that are all denied then I can't really imagine them approving at least one in this year.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Jating on January 05, 2019, 12:33:44 PM

Yes it does  .  people tend to  assume about the etf approval but if they know that etf didnt approve bitcoin , many people will felt so sad and depressed  but it cant affect the price because the price will still remain on what they are now . 

I don't know if you have witnessed the rejection of the first Winklevoss Bitcoin ETF proposal in 2017. The market suffered after the news of rejection surface so obviously there are negative effects.

Now if etf got approved bitcoin   , i think it can bring positive effects to the price because the price can probably rise up  and this can also result for other people to invest more coins  .

As this current situation, the market is really waiting for a significant news that can turn around the bearish sentiments, so for me it's possible that this Bitcoin ETF will be the catalyst if ever approved.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: iMark on January 05, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
If etf get approved there is not a single reason it can make a negative impact. If dismissal still, it can be approved in the future so very limited negative impact.
actually any news about crypto can have an influence on the market. including even ETFs, even though they can be approved at a later
time but rejection can certainly have a negative impact on the market. a lot of news that affects the market


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: jt byte on January 05, 2019, 01:30:28 PM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Maestro75 on January 05, 2019, 01:38:09 PM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.

Many people do not realize this when they talk about the ETF. They forget the good it will eventually do the crypto business once it is put in place. I know for sure it will stabilize the market and make more investors come into cryptos. More.money will find its way into this business just like it did with gold etf.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: H1N1 on January 07, 2019, 01:58:00 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

Im afraid yes. If there are many speculators in bitcoin, then they may already bought bitcoin to sell them once the price rising due ETH approval.
But if SEC reject it in the future, speculators may selling their accumulated bitcoin, not just selling but dumping in the market i guess.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: coin8coin8 on January 07, 2019, 07:34:50 AM
If the ETF is rejected by the SEC again this year, this may cause a new round of decline. I guess the possibility that the ETF will be rejected again is very high, we all know that most members of the SEC committee do not seem to support the Bitcoin ETF, it will take some time to convince the SEC members.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: reynald70 on January 07, 2019, 07:53:10 AM
If the ETF is rejected by the SEC again this year, this may cause a new round of decline. I guess the possibility that the ETF will be rejected again is very high, we all know that most members of the SEC committee do not seem to support the Bitcoin ETF, it will take some time to convince the SEC members.
Yes, it is terrible if the Bitcoin ETFs are rejected by the SEC, because so far all traders are looking forward to it, so it's likely that the influence of ETFs is very important for the continuity of Bitcoin prices, I hope the Bitcoin ETF can be approved by the SEC.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: ipanks on January 07, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
I don't know about that, and if we take a look back, when ETF was a delay, it does not give a big impact for the market and I think people now are not too care about ETF. All people want to see is only when the time for bitcoin price can increase back so they can sell bitcoin at the highest price as in 2017 ago. But it could happen if many people panic because they think that something will happen after that, so it triggered the traders to make a sell order.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Callanta787 on January 07, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
The chances of ETF having negative impact on cryptocurrency is huge ,cryptocurrency has been looking forward to its approval all 2018 and bakkt as well but this is still January and bitcoin has already recover back to 4000$ so its a good start,hope it get approved this February


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: virasog on January 07, 2019, 05:18:29 PM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.


ETF Decision will surely be accepted in the market as a good news and it will act as a fuel to pump the price as everyone wants ETF to be approved. I hope this time ETF is not delayed again, as it has been in the recent past where ETF Decision has been delayed twice last year.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: mutrang23 on January 07, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
The ETF makes any approval or non-approval decisions that affect the entire Cryptocurrency. But there is a lot of information given that ETF will not agree with this and I believe its adverse effects will create a lot of influence. But if it does accept, it will be a big push for us.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Schirer on January 07, 2019, 05:28:57 PM
No, it can do only good in the short term.
The long term is  something else, and I would say that , lets worry about the long term if and when we get there.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: youdacapt on January 07, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
If we talk about ETFs, there may be a lot of people waiting for decisions that will be made by ETFs, but so far there has always been a refusal of proposals submitted by Bitcoin and we see how it can impact market prices, because more people expect their assets and get bad results so many will sell these coins, but they are not solely because of ETFs because there is a lot of news that can affect the price of coins.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Koobtcgal on January 07, 2019, 10:39:28 PM
The decision of SEC over these ETF matters has a great negative impact on crypto. it is more visible when the ETF is rejected or postponed. We are all passionate about this ETF being accepted to stop a negative impact on crypto in general.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: samcrypto on January 07, 2019, 10:50:22 PM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.
Well, last year ETF gives negative impact in the market because its not approved by the SEC and makes a delay on giving the final decision, so the market reacts on that negatively. Hopefully this year, we can hear some good news about ETF from SEC so it can bring positive trend, and the market pumps high again.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: gentlemand on January 07, 2019, 11:07:19 PM
Yes, it is terrible if the Bitcoin ETFs are rejected by the SEC, because so far all traders are looking forward to it, so it's likely that the influence of ETFs is very important for the continuity of Bitcoin prices, I hope the Bitcoin ETF can be approved by the SEC.

I think the SEC have done their bit in letting people down gently. They've been vocal for a long time about why the likelihood of anything passing is low and absolutely nothing has changed regarding their main doubts. If anyone's betting Junior's college fund on a yes then they're incapable of processing information.

The final no may rock the price for a short while but most should know in their hearts it's a no go for a long time to come.



Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: flemmings02 on January 07, 2019, 11:30:59 PM
Yes, it can negatively impact bitcoin, But  I think either positive or negative whichever impact the ETF's decision has on bitcoin will only be a temporary one, Bitcoin will always survive with or without the SEC's intervention.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: peter0425 on January 07, 2019, 11:38:10 PM
The decision of SEC over these ETF matters has a great negative impact on crypto. it is more visible when the ETF is rejected or postponed. We are all passionate about this ETF being accepted to stop a negative impact on crypto in general.
Let's forgot about the approval, they won't simply allow it. Yes, in paper it looks like the proposal is really good and cover everything, however, they have rejected 9 ETF's already. So as long as the market is being manipulated by whales, we won't see any approvals no matter who submit it. So don't expect something big to happen so that you won't be disappointed.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Pattart on January 08, 2019, 01:11:16 AM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.
Of course its give impact. even speculation someone can influence the market. moreover ETFs are a benchmark for the confidence of a commodity and stock. Approved ETFs can be a positive thing because it will certainly widen the market and make many investors believe in bitcoin..


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Mr.grin on January 08, 2019, 03:53:58 AM
The decision of SEC over these ETF matters has a great negative impact on crypto. it is more visible when the ETF is rejected or postponed. We are all passionate about this ETF being accepted to stop a negative impact on crypto in general.
yeah. so far there has been so much impact that the SEC has given to the price of bitcoin. maybe throughout 2018, this really has a big negative effect. well, I heard that this year there will be more decisions about that. I hope it doesn't have the same impact.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on January 08, 2019, 08:53:02 AM
I don't think ETF authorize can have a negative effect on the current cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin and some altcoins have been there for few years, with up and coming headways of blockchain it is bound to continue as before or even develop in numbers later on. Si I think  ETF decision can make a negative impact on the crypto market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: shinharu10282016 on January 08, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
If we think about the price, then it will surely help to increase the price of Bitcoin and maybe also other altcoins will grow.
But it will bring more big investors, more whales to the market and market will become more centralized, I think.

Many people do not realize this when they talk about the ETF. They forget the good it will eventually do the crypto business once it is put in place. I know for sure it will stabilize the market and make more investors come into cryptos. More.money will find its way into this business just like it did with gold etf.

Well, as far as the market is concerned, it will be beneficial for everybody. But what more good will it bring after that?

We can only speculate, look at it and do nothing about it.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: conected on January 08, 2019, 11:40:08 AM
The decision of SEC over these ETF matters has a great negative impact on crypto. it is more visible when the ETF is rejected or postponed. We are all passionate about this ETF being accepted to stop a negative impact on crypto in general.
Let's forgot about the approval, they won't simply allow it. Yes, in paper it looks like the proposal is really good and cover everything, however, they have rejected 9 ETF's already. So as long as the market is being manipulated by whales, we won't see any approvals no matter who submit it. So don't expect something big to happen so that you won't be disappointed.
- I agree with you, all information about this issue always talks a lot about the positive and benefits that it can bring to bitcoin after it is accepted and approved but that is only in theory, there is no evidence to prove that will come true. We only see a fact that the rejected information always appears and it always comes at the sensitive times of the market, it is enough for us to understand whales are creating this game, ETF is just a tool for them to control the price of the market and make people see this movement is reasonable and without manipulation but in fact, ETF is just fake, whales are the ones that create influence on the market, negatively or positively, all come from them


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: messito on January 08, 2019, 12:18:53 PM
I think it is excluded. if they confirm futures, then this is unreliable positive news for the whole market


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: rodel caling on January 08, 2019, 01:04:31 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.


Actually volatile function movements up and down are opportunity to earn profits well risk if talking about buy and sell bitcoin traded of course need to expect the risk.
talking about ETF in my opinion there's nothing effect in bitcoin flows up or down bitcoin being decentralized crypto currency they own ability to moves itself as volitile virtual crypto currency.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: BeGoods on January 08, 2019, 02:06:42 PM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.


Actually volatile function movements up and down are opportunity to earn profits well risk if talking about buy and sell bitcoin traded of course need to expect the risk.
talking about ETF in my opinion there's nothing effect in bitcoin flows up or down bitcoin being decentralized crypto currency they own ability to moves itself as volitile virtual crypto currency.
Of course influential! price fluctuations are influenced by many things. as well as news about this ETF. when the ETF is rejected it will certainly make doubts and fears in the market and certainly make demand down. not only ETF but many things that affect up and down price..


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: qiwoman2 on January 08, 2019, 03:12:16 PM
It all depends on what the big whales want to do with the news outcome regarding the ETF decisions the SEC come out with. If they want to use the news as a way to pump or dump the market price of Bitcoin, then it will be so as we always know that the big powers that be use the Mass Media as a way to relay their message across and control and manipulate the market prices for their own benefit. As the market is very jittery and most of the herds react to the news, they are always at an advantage point regarding the price they want to reach at. Anyway I do believe it will have some bearing on the price and so the whales will use it to their utmost advantage.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kolikalex55 on January 08, 2019, 03:51:18 PM
I think that this will have a positive impact on the bit, but without ETF Bitcoin will be able to work in normal mode and trade on the exchanges, but if the SEC approves the ETF then it will come a lot of money and it will give rise to strong growth.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Gary Levanevskii on January 09, 2019, 08:52:05 PM
I think that the adoption of the ETF will say that Bitcoin has become more legalized. Therefore, I think that the ETF will positively affect Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 12, 2019, 09:49:12 AM
I think that this will have a positive impact on the bit, but without ETF Bitcoin will be able to work in normal mode and trade on the exchanges, but if the SEC approves the ETF then it will come a lot of money and it will give rise to strong growth.
Whether there is an ETF or not the functioning of bitcoin will not be altered. Its something that will increase the adoption of bitcoin for trading by institutional investors but not necessarily increase the price. Price rise is just secondary to this. Dont expect the SEC to approve it so easily. The public name of bitcoin has been related to ponzis, scams, drug dealing and so on. Not that fiat is away from that but still people will deny the inevitable because they dont care about it.

What we can do is speculate or let it be. Dont be bothered to much about ETFs.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Callanta787 on January 12, 2019, 10:17:48 AM
No one can say what the outcome will be ,as I'm viewing things it seem like ETF will have positive impact after all but the impact won't last long,that doesn't mean bear won't return


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: mangsitin on January 12, 2019, 10:38:23 AM
No one can say what the outcome will be ,as I'm viewing things it seem like ETF will have positive impact after all but the impact won't last long,that doesn't mean bear won't return
Yes right, every good news will definitely have an impact on prices in the market, and vice versa, if there is bad news, the price will be bad too, so both have opposite sides. But all that will happen just for a moment, and the price will return to track as usual.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: jabrix on January 15, 2019, 03:13:41 AM
I think that this will have a positive impact on the bit, but without ETF Bitcoin will be able to work in normal mode and trade on the exchanges, but if the SEC approves the ETF then it will come a lot of money and it will give rise to strong growth.
The decision of ETFs gives added value to bitcoin, namely increasing public confidence, because ETFs are traded like ordinary shares on the stock exchange. This trust will gradually change the way people perceive bitcoin, where bitcoin is part of the future digital financial system.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: BigBos on January 15, 2019, 03:36:44 AM
No one can say what the outcome will be ,as I'm viewing things it seem like ETF will have positive impact after all but the impact won't last long,that doesn't mean bear won't return
Yes right, every good news will definitely have an impact on prices in the market, and vice versa, if there is bad news, the price will be bad too, so both have opposite sides. But all that will happen just for a moment, and the price will return to track as usual.
but, if many people expect ETFs, I think that will certainly have a lot of impact. I think the delay that occurred in 2018 yesterday had a pretty severe impact on the price of bitcoin and altcoin. well, maybe right now it's very difficult to have an impact anymore, because many people have guessed the results. however, I think many are waiting for the opportunity to increase the price of bitcoin and altcoin because of this.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on January 15, 2019, 04:06:42 AM
I think that the adoption of the ETF will say that Bitcoin has become more legalized. Therefore, I think that the ETF will positively affect Bitcoin.
Each regulation can change every place of investment and will have a positive or negative impact depending on the decisions issued by the relevant agencies.

Each regulation can change every place of investment and will have a positive or negative impact depending on the decisions issued by the relevant agencies.

ETFs are basically securities that are bought and sold through brokerage companies or stock exchanges. At least with the receipt of bitcoin ETF can make every investor have a convenience such as having relatively low costs, measurable risks and layered supervision. I guess this is what makes every cryptocurrency investor have more hope for ETF to be accepted.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: imstillthebest on January 15, 2019, 04:37:42 AM
No one can say what the outcome will be ,as I'm viewing things it seem like ETF will have positive impact after all but the impact won't last long,that doesn't mean bear won't return
Yes right, every good news will definitely have an impact on prices in the market, and vice versa, if there is bad news, the price will be bad too, so both have opposite sides. But all that will happen just for a moment, and the price will return to track as usual.
but, if many people expect ETFs, I think that will certainly have a lot of impact. I think the delay that occurred in 2018 yesterday had a pretty severe impact on the price of bitcoin and altcoin. well, maybe right now it's very difficult to have an impact anymore, because many people have guessed the results. however, I think many are waiting for the opportunity to increase the price of bitcoin and altcoin because of this.

expectations doesnt add anything on the price not unless they continue buying or selling depending on their mood  .

  the guy above was also correct because no one exactly knows on what will be their decision it maybe yes or no  but then again the price can still be the same though it is considered a good news if ever etf will approved btc  .

 if ever they declined it then theres no hard feelings at all because they arent the only one that can invest on btc  .

many potential investors out there that can enter btc anytime  of the day   .


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: killat on January 15, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
If ETF response will be negative we might see a new temporary price correction as market doesn't react well at negative news.

If you're in cryto for long-term, just hold your coins, ETF will be approved sooner or later.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Lexurdania on January 15, 2019, 07:08:49 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

Bitcoin price last year affected by negative news and i think if ETF approved by SEC, bitcoin price will start to bullish. Any good news and negative news give big impact on crypto price and i am believe many good news will come this year


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Vaculin on January 16, 2019, 03:45:32 AM
Once its like other stocks, we know that there is a huge chance that the prices will shoot up like crazy.  However, after that we will see a lot of stability and this will not be very volatile like now therefore huge up and downs wont be possible and profits will not be huge (Including risks)

Is it correct? can someone please explain how does this works? Is there going be a big commission as well on each trade? is there going to be a margin? I actually dont understand this if someone can shed some light in simple terms. Thanks.

Bitcoin price last year affected by negative news and i think if ETF approved by SEC, bitcoin price will start to bullish. Any good news and negative news give big impact on crypto price and i am believe many good news will come this year
That is one of the reasons why the price is down right now and it should also be the reason to rise.
SEC approval is a big thing that is why it has a significant effect on the market movement, last year was all about negative things, let's
hear some positive things this year.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: mangsitin on January 16, 2019, 04:47:50 AM
Yes, in my opinion the ETF is very influential to the progress of Bitcoin prices, so when the ETF is rejected again, it is likely that prices will decline again, because for now traders are waiting for the SEC's decision to be approved, so that the Bitcoin price will rise.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Caladonian on January 16, 2019, 04:52:52 AM
Yes, in my opinion the ETF is very influential to the progress of Bitcoin prices, so when the ETF is rejected again, it is likely that prices will decline again, because for now traders are waiting for the SEC's decision to be approved, so that the Bitcoin price will rise.
Maybe yes or maybe no, as we knew that bitcoin was been denied several times and still the movements still the same, fluctuations and manipulations will still be there, whatever directions bagholders wants this industry to go, same thing will still happen unless new investors will join and make the difference and start making the bull to run back after the ETF.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Bitbtc8 on January 16, 2019, 08:29:26 AM
So far this year 2019 hasn't show any good sign of greater future and can't wait to see what turns up ,it looks like nothing is going to happen and it won't look too different from 2018 ,I think the only way to turn things around is GOOD NEWS, just few of them will have a good impact of cryptocurrency ,ETF is a must if we want to atleast see a different improvement this year


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: gabmen on January 16, 2019, 01:40:08 PM
Yes, in my opinion the ETF is very influential to the progress of Bitcoin prices, so when the ETF is rejected again, it is likely that prices will decline again, because for now traders are waiting for the SEC's decision to be approved, so that the Bitcoin price will rise.
Maybe yes or maybe no, as we knew that bitcoin was been denied several times and still the movements still the same, fluctuations and manipulations will still be there, whatever directions bagholders wants this industry to go, same thing will still happen unless new investors will join and make the difference and start making the bull to run back after the ETF.

The effects would probably be minimal whether it's an approval or denial. Many don't even think bitcoin needs an etf approval aside from a short repreive from all the bad news we've had.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: bitfocus on January 18, 2019, 11:49:53 AM
yes, I am afraid, this will bring huge negative impact on crypto industry and market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Ava Duvall on January 18, 2019, 12:12:46 PM
Yes, in my opinion the ETF is very influential to the progress of Bitcoin prices, so when the ETF is rejected again, it is likely that prices will decline again, because for now traders are waiting for the SEC's decision to be approved, so that the Bitcoin price will rise.
I think most would agree that its very influential. But that's not the only thing that can make prices drop or decline. other factors play a role so I wouldn't say that if ETF is rejected prices will drop drastically


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 20, 2019, 08:41:24 AM
yes, I am afraid, this will bring huge negative impact on crypto industry and market.
It already did have a negative impact when the markets crashed previously though I still doubt it was only because of ETF denial/delay. This gave new strength to the bears and we saw what happened to the market as it crashed from 6k back to 3k and now roving around the 3.7k mark. How much people are enthusiastic about future seems to be less important to the people than the short term gains.

This is not what I expect from the hodler community and its sad to see things escalate like this. You all are supposed to be hodl through thick and thin without caring about ETF approval.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: bots1 on January 20, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
Only sick people make ETFs as bad news. No ETFs do not mean the end of the world. Even now there are hundreds of exchanges that trade in bitcoin and hundreds of companies that invest in bitcoin and hundreds of stores that accept bitcoin for payment transactions. If indeed the ETF is received by the SEC, that's good news. However, if rejected, it should return to the next year. :D


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Rooster101 on January 23, 2019, 10:00:29 AM
I read that bitcoin ETF will give the investors the opportunity to invest over the long term in bitcoin without the need to buy the coins directly. Because you're not the one to manage it, it eliminate the problems of managing your digital wallets.  The possible reaction in whatever SEC decision on bitcoin ETF will be up to the investors, if this turn out to be positive for the crypto community, the result will be a bullish market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: don_ricci on January 23, 2019, 10:31:16 AM
If the governments of the states do not take measures to regulate Bitcoin, then Bitcoin will not be volatile. However, now in any case there will be a rise in Bitcoin after its fall. Therefore, while there is an opportunity, you need to have time to take this movement. Personally, I buy Bitcoin and a few more currencies now.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: electron-coin on January 23, 2019, 09:23:15 PM
I think that immediately after making a positive decision, prices may grow temporary. On the one hand, this is a great opportunity for everyone to sell their Bitcoin at higher prices, on the other hand, such a decision should really attract new investors.
Since now none of us don’t know any details, it’s hard to even talk about how exactly Bitcoin ETF will affect the bidding process. So if such a decision will be made, then we will be able to find out all the details only after that.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 27, 2019, 05:00:33 PM
If the governments of the states do not take measures to regulate Bitcoin, then Bitcoin will not be volatile.
You understand the fact that what you are saying is not possible for a government and not any person to do. Bitcoin cannot be regulated. Thats it.

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However, now in any case there will be a rise in Bitcoin after its fall. Therefore, while there is an opportunity, you need to have time to take this movement. Personally, I buy Bitcoin and a few more currencies now.
Good thing to do. But dont tell this as financial advice though. Keep it non-biased non financial. ;D

So far, ETFs have always postponed their decisions about bitcoin, but the community is always trying to make bitcoin more valuable. Many argue that ETF decisions do not have a negative impact and hope to have a positive impact.
Thats the reasons people are getting so sensitive over the ETF postponement/delay. They were all hopeful of a bullrun this year beginning and now the ETFs got delayed. So those who were hoping to sell at the pump due to the ETF could not do so and sold off at a lower price. Thats what propagated the panic selling at 6k USD in my opinion.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: oceantiger on January 27, 2019, 05:12:09 PM
Definitely, there will be price jump in the market once the ETF is approved by SEC. The announcement will trigger off the bull rally that we have been expecting. This will be in an index form that is derivatives of the stock though based on crypto. It will still follow what is happening in another index trading with SEC. The bottom line is that it will make bitcoin more popular and increase in demand.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: trader34 on January 27, 2019, 06:59:47 PM
So far, ETFs have always postponed their decisions about bitcoin, but the community is always trying to make bitcoin more valuable. Many argue that ETF decisions do not have a negative impact and hope to have a positive impact.

Now the Bitcoin ETFs are definitely denied for the moment, but the price seems to remain stable at 3500 dollars like the last month. Probably we won't see a bitcoin ETF before 2020...


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 30, 2019, 07:25:20 AM
Definitely, there will be price jump in the market once the ETF is approved by SEC.
Amazed at seeing the amount of capitulation that has happeneed in the minds of the people. One day people did not even care about the traditional market and thought bitcoin to be a cultish currency for buying weed and now they are taking it up to SEC to get ETF approved. Get your informed first, ETFs are no going to get approved anyway for now.

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The announcement will trigger off the bull rally that we have been expecting.
Exactly the reason why people are panicing so much and having anxiety and bouts of depression. Good income for the psychiatrists though. ;D

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This will be in an index form that is derivatives of the stock though based on crypto. It will still follow what is happening in another index trading with SEC. The bottom line is that it will make bitcoin more popular and increase in demand.
We should focus more on organic growth promotion than trying to beat a dead horse.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: marcbitcoins on January 30, 2019, 09:20:13 AM
Last year rejection of ETF products did not cause any fall down of the market price in which i guess that the crypto currency users are not interested of ETF anymore but still i want to see if there is positive impact if ETF will be accepted this year that it might trigger the bullish market as i belived that it will invite millions of investments making Bitcoin to become ATH again.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Akoldi_ibk on January 31, 2019, 06:38:01 PM
Bitcoin has survived to this moment, before the Bitcoin ETFs or SEC event came on. What I do not understand is that why continuing putting too much hope on what seems will take forever before being approved. However, I pray for its approval as it will mean a great for the crypto community and the world at large. Just that we should be prepared for either outcome.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: sijonru on February 11, 2019, 06:42:17 AM
I read that bitcoin ETF will give the investors the opportunity to invest over the long term in bitcoin without the need to buy the coins directly. Because you're not the one to manage it, it eliminate the problems of managing your digital wallets.  The possible reaction in whatever SEC decision on bitcoin ETF will be up to the investors, if this turn out to be positive for the crypto community, the result will be a bullish market.
I think ETFs will have a positive impact on bitcoin investment because crypto investors do not need to manage their own ownership, but there are special companies that are engaged in trading or long-term investments so that they are more professional.
However, ETF approval has not been clear so that the possibility of being rejected for now is greater, perhaps for the future where digital finance has dominated this can be done.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Vaculin on February 12, 2019, 08:38:59 AM
Came back here to say that it has a positive effect and the positive speculation is once again alive.

This recent news "SEC Commissioner Says Bitcoin ETF Will Be Approved ‘Eventually’ makes everything looks green.
https://www.coindesk.com/sec-commissioner-says-bitcoin-etf-will-be-approved-eventually


Hopefully it will take place as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kelvinid on February 12, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
Came back here to say that it has a positive effect and the positive speculation is once again alive.

This recent news "SEC Commissioner Says Bitcoin ETF Will Be Approved ‘Eventually’ makes everything looks green.
https://www.coindesk.com/sec-commissioner-says-bitcoin-etf-will-be-approved-eventually


Hopefully it will take place as soon as possible.
Wow,  it give us hope and it may reborn the market.  It surely makes huge changes in the trend and could be way to bring back those people who left crypto behind from struggling and fighting dips. Though we can't expect for quick response from the market but it will make a way to win against the odds.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: ecnalubma on February 12, 2019, 02:18:43 PM
Even the negative impact is not that too bad some people will still use it to manipulate the market. ETF's are so overhyped and some whales use to take advantage, market is not making organic growth that way because we are only after the approvals and hype.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: arpon11 on February 12, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
Even the negative impact is not that too bad some people will still use it to manipulate the market. ETF's are so overhyped and some whales use to take advantage, market is not making organic growth that way because we are only after the approvals and hype.
Of a truth that is the beauty of this market.  It most be manipulated for those manipulators to make money from the market and since we know that the market will be maniputed the best thing to do is to understand what the whales are doing and invest along with that.  ETF rejection or approvals is going to affect the market as people and the whales will always like to take the advantage of the market.


Title: Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact?
Post by: Kelvinikke on February 12, 2019, 08:51:43 PM
Well i think the approval of Bitcoin ETF would rather be a positive impact on the crypto market other than a negative impact. Consider just recently when news about a possible approval of Bitcoin ETF was announced, bitcoin rose about $200 within some few minutes. The final approval of Bitcoin ETF would definitely bring great news to the crypto community.