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http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/24/mining-asics-technologies-bv-mat-announces-6ths-titanium-asic-bitcoin-miner-and-scrypt-asic-miner/

I'd love to see the Bitcointalk community go to work in validating or invalidating this company.

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Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
Stationsplein 8-K
6221 BT Maastricht / Nederlands
Tel +31 (0) 43 7999-016
mailto: marketing@mining-asics-technologies.com

MA Technologies (MAT)
http://mining-asics-technologies.com

"The ASIC Experts"

if you click on the Excalibur miner you get the following:

http://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/protected/?comeFrom=%2Fshop%2Fasic-scrypt-litecoin-miner%2F

But what you see here isn't dutch it's german :)

Anyway I live in the Netherlands [Amsterdam] and if anyone is up for it, we can go pay a visit =)

Domain is also like 10 days old:

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His address is almost like walking distance from germany to netherlands, I can't use google street view to see around.

I looked up the BV on our local business database in NL [www.kvk.nl] but its a paid side to get info [who is legally responsible etc] a KvK number is supplied which indicates a registered company in NL.

http://officieel.openkvk.nl/xml/Mining%20Asics%20Technologies, shows some basic info [this is a opensource free version but is somewhat behind with information].

Anyway I live in the Netherlands [Amsterdam] and if anyone is up for it, we can go pay a visit =)

rgdz,
bhai

Exactly! Someone join this brave soul, please :).

http://www.sci-worx.com
http://www.dreamchip.de

is exactly the same site

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This company has been around for some time.

Then again, I have never heard of them. Their site also doesn't show any asic just FPGA: http://www.dreamchip.de/core-competence/fpga.html

The word ASIC is mentioned but that doesn't mean a sha256/scrypt asic chip.

Great saves me a ride of 2:45 hours :D

rgdz,
bhai

Mrrr, you are exactly what the Bitcoin community was looking for.  Thank you, kind sir.

Isn't that the same company that Black Arrow using for their chip development?

here we go again with the preorders, these thing will never ROI now with these prices. Shouldn't the cost of the miners go down if the market stabilizes at a lower price

From my communications with MAT, they have stated that the corroborating press releases from Dream Chip, Global Foundries, etc (which I explicitly cite in my article as a large piece of proof thus far missing) will be released later this week.
The people working for the company are also putting their identities on the line.


Not really sure what kind of office people expect start ups to have :P

Mrrr, I know this is stinking up your funk-o-meter but I think the community could still benefit from knowing what kind of physical presence they have at that office, and you are in a unique position to whiff cheese.

My thanks go out to you!

Pfft. I can promise a 12TH/s Bitcoin miner and a 400MH/s Scrypt miner.
Doesn't mean I'll actually deliver.

I'm glad this thread is getting more action.  For now I am with y'all, waiting to see how MAT verifies themselves to this community.  I urge everyone to wait until we receive a negative or a positive from Dream Chip, etc.

My post from LitecoinTalk.org ( https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=16195.msg132374#msg132374 ):


Hey Mrrr and the community,

I've been busy this morning and this evening trying to figure out a lot about them too (this took quite some hours work). I went a different direction than you did.
I can buy the chamber of commerce thing, I was really thinking about it and almost bought it. Please contact me to let me know if you're going to buy it or that I should do it :)

So here comes my long write-up... I hope you can follow my think and search pattern :)




I pulled the phonenumber and found that it was used by a German IT company ran by M Coumans (Marc Coumans). They have 'an HQ in The Netherlands'. They were founded 2008 (please look this up, I didn't check whether it was the German GmbH or the Dutch B.V.) and are called CONSALIT ( www.consalit.eu ). The phonenumber is used since 2010 and this can be confirmed by using the web archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20091121040006/http://www.consalit.eu/Kontakt.html
Now things are getting tricky...

This leads to the following information from June 2013:
Marc Coumans CONSALIT B.V. Tel: +31 (0)43 7999 – 016
marc.coumans@consalit.eu Stationsplein 8-K Handy: +49 (0)151 5606 2233
www.consalit.eu/clusa 6221 BT Maastricht Handy: +31 (0)6 406 757 90
(found here: http://www.consalit.eu/resources/CONSALIT+SMART+IT+Client+mit+CLUSA.pdf )

My interest in the building is really high now, so I searched and it's a business center where people can hire space. Actually, there's A WHOLE LIST of other companies REGISTERED UNDER THE SAME ADDRESS (8 K): http://www.goedkopekantoorruimte.nl/node/377/bedrijven
Why is this done? This address is a dummy address to register your company. I checked some of the companies and they are legit. Their problem is that these companies are small and often work from their homes, but need a business space to work/meet (sometimes) or mostly work at home but don't want to share their personal address (understandably, or because of legal issues). So this isn't something that's only done for scams. Although... there are some notes on the internet about fishy companies under that address...

So ok, so far CONSALIT B.V. seems to be the same company as MAT. Let's check domains WHOIS under "mcoumans@gmail.com" (found in the WHOIS of MAT.com).
- mat.com http://www.whois.com/whois/mining-asics-technologies.com pops up as "Mathias Coumans" over here: http://goo.gl/maps/D7tFu
- consalit.biz http://whois.domaintools.com/consalit.biz pops up as Mathias Coumans at the same address
- consalit-ag.com http://www.whois.com/whois/consalit-ag.com pops up as Mathias Coumans at the same address
- consalit.org consalit.biz consalit-ag.com consalit.eu pop up

They are all registered at http://www.1und1.de/ ... also ... the IT webpage is build by "WFX builder" (a very simple HTML builder) and MAT.com is made with software provided by 1&1.de (1&1 DIY Website Builder). So there's a good 'connection' on technical level as well (Mathias Coumans has both consalit.biz, consalit-ag.com and MAT.com).

Marc Coumans and his IT business look legit (they appear on the IBM website): http://www-01.ibm.com/software/success/cssdb.nsf/CS/SSAO-8YYNJK?OpenDocument&Site=default&cty=en_us
This is Marc Coumans' public LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marccoumans


Let's recap. This looks pretty legit in the following way: Marc Coumans is the owner of CONSALIT B.V. and their website and Dutch phone number exist since 2010-ish (at least, that's what web.archive.org shows). We know that this isn't some fake company because they've updated news over the past years ( check this webarchive link, some news dates back to 2008 (http://web.archive.org/web/20091121040019/http://www.consalit.eu/News.html)), but more importantly there's good evidence on the website of IBM.
So this whole IT business is legit under the registrants email "mcoumans@gmail.com". When we search this, we also get MAT.com, which links back to "Mathias Coumans"... but... this isn't the "Mark Coumans" from CONSALIT B.V. and there's no mention about the "Mathias" first name on his LinkedIn. So is this a relative?
Let's go further: consalit.biz is registered under the name "Mathias Coumans" AND the Facebook page of MAT reads the following: "Mathias Marc Coumans | CEO & Co-Founder". So is the conclusion that "Mark Coumans" also uses the name "Mathias" in some cases? Does this mean this ties everything up and everything is legit?

Well... I'm not sure because I didn't tell you yet that I've been digging in the sourcecode of www.consalit.eu : <meta name="author" content="MJJ Coumans"> ... MJJ Coumans. How on earth can a "J" become "Mathias"?
Only the MAT Facebook page says something about the "Mathias" name in combination with "Mark Coumans".


Let's go-go gadget the other way around......
Assumption: Marc Coumans and CONSALIT 'have been chosen' by MAT.com to be their "Scapegoat" and neither Marc Coumans nor CONSALIT agree or know anything about MAT.com.
How could this be done? The only thing they need is access to, is the mcoumans@gmail.com email address. I do not want to discriminate but I know that older people (yes I call Marc Coumans old) use simple passwords which they can remember more easy. Let's say they have gained access to that email and they made sure that if somebody checked the WHOIS data, everything fits, even the Hosting Provider and the way of setting up their website (with an easy HTML builder). Even the physical addresses match (not too hard, because there's many companies there).
So how likely is this? It would take quite some time to figure all these things out (easy Dutch registrant address from an IT company to which they have access to the owners' email). Or... Could this be a rogue employee?
This is all pretty likely as people will often go very far in their scams.

So what's up with the "Marc Coumans" and "Mathias Coumans" names?
"Mathias Coumans" is used in the consalit.biz domain. This domain has been updated last at 1st of April 2013 and that's quite some time before MAT.com. The chances of "Mathias Coumans" being a scapegoat name - to make things even more vague - instead of a real name (this was my first thought) become smaller...
Add to the fact that "Marc Coumans" could be married to somebody called " XXX Mathias" and that "Mathias Coumans" are two last names combined. This could explain why "Marc Coumans" is also called "Mathias Marc Coumans" without having the proper initials (MJJ Coumans).
On the other hand, why would you place a last name in front of a first name?


So my opinion: I'm pretty confused because it looks legit but stinks everywhere... I mean:
- I find MAT's FAQ's are too short, their English is not of great quality, they have some shitty HTML website (c'mon, the ASIC business is expensive, spend a little bit more money on this)
- why not tell us about CONSALIT B.V.
- and best of all: why would they use a Dutch company instead of a German company when they're German based? The answer is... it's easier, makes things vague (crossing borders) and most important, it costs a few hundred Euro's instead of the 25.000 Euro's investment which a German GmbH needs....... (LINK OVER HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschr%C3%A4nkter_Haftung))


How do we solve this? Well... we need to buy the Chamber of Commerce details from CONSALIT B.V. (Dutch) , CONSALIT GmbH (German) and MAT B.V. (Dutch). This costs around 20 euro's total, but will probably resolve questions as the owners of the companies are listed in the papers. I'd like to find answers without asking people questions. That happens after all the available (OBJECTIVE) information is gathered and analyzed.



If you would like to support me in my efforts unraveling "crypto mysteries" (I have done this before, once catching a scammer and I had been given a cut of the coins he returned), please send some:
BTC: 1FeHtYeNBK5Zv5Pcxpry9E9D5LePtSMAsG
LTC: LbxALxhwHP4aepvJhycS7ybHdYYTAoFqoe

I would like to join you then and even travel to Germany and visit CONSALIT GmbH like I posted above...

I just got word from Marc Coumans. He says we are thinking a bit to difficult here and he'll gladly explain everything. He will make a post later today.

Your thinking about how he uses his names is WAY OFF.
There is nothing wrong with his name.
Do you know that he has a Christian name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_name

I think they are legit, but they are way too ambitious.
Cointerra has the most capable team in the world of BTC and are doing all the design themself but fail.
Hashfast don't have a design team themself, but contracted one of the best design teams in the world to do the job for them, they also fail.
MAT has NOTHING.
No really impresive names, who earn their stripes already in this industry.

I don't work and have never work in the semiconductor industry before, but I can fix and modify anything that has a chip inside it.
From the technical specs on their website and the companies involved making their ASICS, I already see a lot of points of failures.
If anyone believe in choosing the wrong companies in the production chain will make a top product, then this is THE COMPANY you need to invest in.
This will be a BIG FAIL.

With the rising of BTC value, it also attracts a lot of clowns who are way to ambitious beside the scammers.
Greed is what made them step into this business.

Personally I don't like to talk so negative about my own countrymen, but all I see is the facts that they are not able to pull it off.
I am going to clean up the house first and then I am going to write a full report why I think it is a failure to me.

From Litecoin forums:


So yes, I was wrong and they are real after all. Sorry for that :) But the incredible amount of uncanny pre-sales/IPO's on these boards tend to make people a bit overcautious. Thanks for clearing things up a bit.

Hello Bitcoin Community,

As mentioned to Mrrr  and after reading this thread this afternoon, I want to comment on the guessing and give you a brief description where needed.

So why are we based out of Maastricht?

Because I have the European HQ for all my business in Maastricht for over many years already. The decision for Maastricht Stationsplein was taken years ago, because office space was available for growth of the company. This is the same case for Germany where we have several offices.
Next week we will open at the Stationsplein the new Office for Mining Asics Technologies on the ground floor of the building, so that it will be easy for visitors to find us. From next week our new telephone number will also be available, so there will be no confusion anymore between CONSALIT and Mining Asics Technologies. (owned companies in The Netherlands and Germany; Dubai to come shortly!)

Why are we producing in Germany?

Because there are the Best of Breed companies that we know for a Long time and do Business with. The majority of our people come from Germany also.

Why was there a call from a number in Dubai towards Mrrr?

Because I and my associate where for the mining Business in Dubai the last few days to investigate our new logistic Center for UAE and APAC. That's why a Dubai number showed up after calling back!

And now the most easy one to answer.....

Who is Marc and who is Mathias?

They are the SAME!

But why using those 2 names?

I have no other choice! My given Name at birth was: MARC
My registered Name(s) were Mathias Johannes Joseph. (Christian Names; Thanks Easy2Mine...you were 1st..)

So my life was fine, until I moved to Germany to live there! That's where only the FIRST registered Name can be used: MATHIAS!!!

So all of a sudden I hád 2 names...making it difficult to book flights, order Domain names, making payments etc.....

After moving back to The Netherlands, I got stuck with These 2 names and drives me crazy sometimes....!!

So I hope you now know why you see 2 persons being 1!!

Are we SCAM?

NO, we are a serious Business and anyone who has skills that we can use for our Expansion in the future are more then welcome to help us with our Vision!!

With warmest Regards,

Marc Coumans (for Germany: Mathias Coumans)
CEO
Mining ASICs Technologies B.V.

Read his explanation, there actually is something wrong with it  ;D
But thanks for pointing out :)


Thanks for helping out on this ;) . Well it's not really negative, all you did was summarize the facts and conclude MAT is 'behind'.
Looking forward to your report!

Hi Marc!

You mentioned you're looking for someone to help you expand Vision? Is that also including customer service psychologically-strategic oriented tasks on how to target as many customer/clients as it gets?

+1 yeah Marc... I need a job too, miner wiz, great location with lots of professional technical support and sales experience ;)

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. starts Pre-Orders for Bitcoin Asic Miner, Scrypt ASIC Miner and Scrypt FPGA Miner on the 12th, March

The Netherlands based company Mining Asics Technologies B.V. (MAT) who announced in February it would be one of the first companies to bring several new Bitcoin Asic miners and Scrypt ASIC miners for Dogecoin, Auroracoin, Feathercoin, Litecoin and other scrypt cryptocurrencies  into the market, today announced it would begin taking pre-orders for their miners with only 35% deposit payment.

The following miners are available at https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

TITANIUM 1 – 28 nm BITCOIN ASIC MINER 6 TH/s
€ 6.999,00. 35% Deposit – € 2.449,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 6 TH/s
Shipments are planned to start in September of Year 2014.

TITANIUM 2 – 28 nm BITCOIN ASIC MINER 3 TH/s
€ 3.999,00. 35% Deposit – € 1.399,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 3 TH/s
Shipments are planned to start in September of Year 2014.

PLATINUM 1 – FPGA SCRYPT MINER 10 MH/s
€ 2.999,00. 35% Deposit – € 1.049,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 10 MH/s
Shipments are planned to start in August of Year 2014.

PLATINUM 2 – FPGA SCRYPT MINER 30 MH/s
€ 5.999,00. 35% Deposit – € 2.099,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 30 MH/s.
Shipments are planned to start in August of Year 2014.

EXCALIBUR 1 – ASIC SCRYPT MINER 50 MH/s
€ 4.999,00. 35% Deposit- € 1.749,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 50 MH/s
Shipments are planned to start Q3/Q4 of Year 2014.

EXCALIBUR 2 – ASIC SCRYPT MINER 100 MH/s
€ 7.999,00. 35% Deposit- € 2.799,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 100 MH/s
Shipments are planned to start Q3/Q4 of Year 2014.

EXCALIBUR 3 – ASIC SCRYPT MINER 200 MH/s
€ 14.999,00. 35% Deposit- € 5.249,65.
Hashrate minimum guarantee 200 MH/s
Shipments are planned to start Q3/Q4 of Year 2014.

All Asic miners from Mining Asics Technologies B.V. (MAT) are standalone miners, with no need for a host PC. Our miners are designed to work on and come preinstalled with Linux and we will only be providing support for Linux platforms running CGminer. They can be configured with WebGUI via a desktop or mobile device.

Mining Asics Technologies B.V (MAT) said both the hashing rates and delivery times quoted were deliberately conservative estimates
Payments for orders at https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com can be made by Bank Transfer and Bitcoins via BitPay.

The Scrypt Asic miners could be used to mine any other cryptocurrencies using the same scrypt algorithm that were gaining popularity, such as Litecoin, Novacoin, Auroracoin, Feathercoin, Dogecoin and others.

For the development and production of the Bitcoin Asic miners, Scrypt Asic miners and Scrypt FPGA miners Mining Asics Technologies B.V. (MAT) has partnered with German engineering firm Dream Chip Technologies GmbH (DCT). Dream Chip Technologies GmbH (DCT) engineering team consist about 40 highly qualified and skilled resources in hardware, software and mechanical engineering capabilities. A state of the art design center is located at the headquarters to undertake hardware, software and programmable logic design work. Dream Chip Technologies GmbH (DCT) is led by a team of highly experienced professionals in its area of specialization. The Dream Chip Technologies GmbH (DCT) design team have worked on several state of the art designs in the areas of software, systems architecture, involving ASICs and FPGAs.
Some companies in the Bitcoin Asic mining business realm struggled with credibility issues in 2013 bringing cutting-edge equipment to market on time and on price.
This is the reason why Mining Asics Technologies B.V. (MAT) will be accepting only 35% deposits on all orders for their Asic Bitcoin miners and Asic Scrypt miners, with the remaining 65% required 3 months before shipping.

The network’s hashing power for coins like Litecoin, Feathercoin, Dogecoin, Auroracoin and other Scrypt cryptocurrencies would remain GPU-based mining for the first half of 2014, and would not see any significant rises during that time. The difficulty in example 6 months of course will increase, but all that difficulty is not majority based on ASIC hardware like in the Bitcoin network. The whole Litecoin or other Scrypt cryptocurrencies difficulty in 6 months time will be made up only of GPU’s. When we ship our FPGA Scrypt miners or ASIC Scrypt miners it will be more advantageous than any GPU rig, it will be more cost efficient, and much more power efficient.

Our shop opened Wednesday 12th, March. Time 6 p.m. The Netherlands time. https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

Hi Marc/Matthias


Let us now when you have pictures and videos of working hardware and then we can take a look at possibly placing orders with you.

J

So the company only requires a 35% deposit.  But then says "the remaining 65% required 3 months before shipping."  So, really, all 100% is paid up front and what's the magic number many credit card companies go by for filing disputes?  That's right, 90 days (AKA 3 months). 

I don't know.  Gridseed scrypt miners are real and in hand by several users right now.  Looking forward to this tech developing and I wouldn't want to miss out.  But... the psyche out/head fake on describing the deposit sort of made me laugh.

Well it's now march 18th and, office open yet? I see on dutch website Funda in Business that the proposed address is still available:


hate to burst the bubble but it all, ALL sounds too fishy to me. If batch gets sent out (on time) I'll be in first inbatch two, promiss you.

Hi Forum members,

see this post. YES, we are already in the new Office space since March 1st.
Today even a Litecoin Member visited us! Received a nice Cup of coffee, we had a nice conversation and he will order his Excalibur as he told us.

To clarify why you find Office Space in Funda and even more places....it's 18 Story building and I must admit that we are not able to fill these 18 stories. We will do our best and you never know how big we grow in the future.

Marc Coumans
CEO
MAT BV

O...and before I Forget, since I am in the Forum right now....

NEWS

DCT develops and delivers Bitcoin and Litecoin Mining ASIC

NEWS from Dream Chip Technologies: www.dreamchip.de

DCT develops and delivers Bitcoin and Litecoin Mining ASIC

We are happy to announce that we have signed an Agreement with Mining Asics Technologies B.V. in the Netherlands for the development of SHA 256 Bitcoin and Scrypt Hashing products!

For further information, please contact marketing@mining-asics-technologies.com or visit https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

Marc

Some people love a post-coffee pre-order......but I will wait for some actual products personally.

Best of luck!

J

Following this with some interest.

I'd like to offer some advice to you, if you truly are a newbie on this forum. (good advice even if the account is all that's new :D )

This place will get brutal, even if you're 100 percent legit. Not might, will. Do NOT react to this by insulting the trolls/freaks/concerned denizens. You can't tell them apart when emotions get hot.

If you have even a hint of delay, say so about a second after you know about it. This will raise your credibility in this very ugly market tenfold while costing you only time.
If someone wants a refund, give it, regardless of TOS. The positive feedback will give you more credibility, leading to more sales.

DO NOT VANISH!!!

Absolutely the worst thing you can do is stop communicating. Silence is not only not golden, it is the breeding ground of FUD. It will KILL your company. If something is wrong, tell us. We are aware that this is bleeding edge tech. If something unexpectedly goes right, Tell us! Everyone likes good news.

Don't lie. Even if the news is bad/ugly/fatal. You will be found out. Some of the company hunters here don't have any other goal in life. If you're legit, they are your best friend. But they will find EVERYTHING related to you, your company, you ancestry, your prefernces... once pissed off they are like robotic bloodhounds. They don't stop. So if you're legit, they'll help you. If you're not... well, you were warned.

Since the above comes off as a bit unfriendly, let me say that my tone is from having gotten too involved in one of your competitor's threads, and getting my own rep a bit tarnished by association. I personally came out good, but because of me I think some people bought a machine that is unlikely to ever be delivered. Inadvertent on my part, but a shame to me nevertheless. I actually wish you well, given attention to the above.

Kevin Biomech

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/product/titanium-asic-bitcoin-miner-universal-sha/#additional_information

We already have 1W/GH. No need to wait 6 more months for that.

so
at the end
can we trust this company or not

If you have to ask, then dont send your money.

Beside, at these price points, why would any one want to buy mining gear just to hope breaking even?

Buy BTC and you will have greater chance of making profits not just breaking even.

Bitcoin Asic Miner 3 TH/s Prototype is running well.
High Quality - Made in Germany.
More informations you can find on our website:
More Informations you can find at:
https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBfheXMVOeg

No link to your SHA256 miners on the website. What chips are you using?

Serial #1 running!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=609277.0

I would not touch this company with a hundred foot long pole personally.

Typical scammer behaviour, doesn't answer the questions directly and posts bits and pieces of information here and there.

Shows some piece of server like hardware running - who knows what that machine in the Youtube video really is, could be anything.

Only needs one or two suckers to make cash out of such a scam.

SCAM! Stay away from it!

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

News: Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

First conference introducing Bitcoin to Central Europe!

Invitation:

We have the greatest pleasure to invite you to the first Bitcoin related conference to be held in the heart of Europe – CEBE (Central Europe Bitcoin Expo). We look forward to meeting you at the Austria Center Vienna!

CEBE acronym means Bitcoin business entry into the region of Central Europe. This region is represented by the following countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. It will be the first and biggest conference of its kind ever held in this area. It is the opportunity to introduce the potential of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies to countries that are not really aware of its vast potential. Financial capitals such as Vienna, Bratislava, Berlin, Budapest, Frankfurt, Ljubljana, Munich, Prague, Warsaw or Zürich offer many opportunities to expand bitcoin business.

Buy your tickets now or sign up for a free ticket!    http://cebexpo.net/#ticket

We hope to see you there!

Marc Coumans

CEO

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.

SCAM without a shadow of doubt... won't feel sorry for anyone who falls for their "dream" chips...  :D

This is easily the best advice and should be a sticky by itself for all companies. One more word CONSISTENCY is a key factor in all of the above. Do right by the people on here and they will do right by you and will essentially advertise for you. Word of mouth (good) advertising is the holy grail of marketing. I am taking a wait and see approach here as I have already been burned twice. It would be beneficial for you guys to get some sample systems out to a few well known community members to teardown and review. Its a huge start in credibility. I have noticed that the companies sending sample units are the ones doing the best right now.

Right they don't appear to have done anything to prove themselves otherwise at this point. But biomechs advice is rock solid. They SHOULD be doing that in order to have some success. But they aren't so likely they are just going to fade away.

well I do not work for the company, but I do have two scrypt miners on order and Marc told me they would be at the Vienna BTC Show next weekend showing off this new machine and he told me it would be mining there so people will be making videos of the unit hard at work and marc told me they would too very soon.

Not hard for a scammer to tell you they will be at some Bitcoin conference or other. It proves nothing at all.

In fact I have seen another scammer use exactly this technique: "I will be at so and so Bitcoin conference next week where you can see my hardware mining". Turned out to be a scam.

Why would anyone pay without first having proof??
 

not only will they be there - but be there exhibiting their unit and of course you are welcome to stop by their offices in Denmark - others have.

people will have pay first after having done what they consider to be adequate due diligence and be first in line to receive the most cost effective miner made to date.

:)

Yea, good luck with that.

You won't win with pre orders, no matter what you tell yourself.

Terms and conditions, what's that?  Delays?  What, you didn't read the fine print where it says pre order don't guarantee a delivery date.  Q2/Q3 of year 2014 you say?  Might as well be 2015

You snooze...you lose.

I would say the fact that you were the forum member who started the other thread advertising this manufacturer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=609277.0) is unusual to say the least...

Are you associated with this company?

no

How come you're the only one hyping them up then?

So far they only have one pre order customer(you).  No one else in the forum has ordered.

how do you know that no one else on the forum has ordered? do you work for them?

I'm not hyping them - I'm merely posting what I know to be facts at his point in time. The pictures are a fact - the video is a fact.

they're attending a show next week with their miner - that's a fact.

I have two scrypt miner on order from them - that's the extent of my relationship with this company aside from doing my due diligence on the individual involved and their backgrounds before ordering.

I figured I'd just share the news with all of you - although it seems there are some that really don't appreciate me sharing it and have been down right hostile and accusatory - and I can't figure out why - because I've never done anything to any of these people.

I wonder why they feel so threatened by the existence of a new piece of mining hardware - perhaps they have some sort of hidden agenda?

Doesn't their hostility make you wonder too?

If you want to believe I have some sort of ulterior motive - that's certainly your right, but I invite you to come visit me in my office in Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania and look for mining hardware or any indication that I work for this company. Far from it, I'm just an IT guy with a regular job who likes to mine and like computer hardware and happens to like the company I chose to provide me two pretty fast scrypt miners soon.

what's wrong with endorsing a company you believe in and have faith in - believe me - after being jerked around by a number of chinese scrypt miners - these guys are a breath of fresh air and it's refreshing to know real business people are involved in the industry who understand how to treat their customers., instead of a bunch of shysters.

Trust me - I was really holding my breath the day I wire transferred off my deposit to Denmark but over the past several weeks I've come to have faith they'll deliver - hey - if they don't shame on me and there will be no worse critic than myself - but for right now - I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I also say really nice things about Simon at Hashra - I've bought several items from him and have one of his new 24 MHS units on order which I hope to have by the end of the month. I endorse him also because he's been straight up with me, honest, communicative and not beyond answering some tough question I've had for him.

:)

What is your expected delivery date for your scrypt miners from MAT?

between 7/21 & 8/15

Wow, thought it'd be sooner.  Quite a ways off.  Usually a good rule of thumb is if it doesn't ship within a couple weeks, stay far away.

Well, good luck with that order and hopefully they come through in that time frame.

that is what they've been quoting right from the start - better to be realistic than lie like so many of these companies do then incur the wrath of the public.

for $44/mhs (scrypt) I don't mind the wait and plugged it into my calculations when making the decision to buy or not. To be honest I don't mine LTC or Doge so I could care less about their difficulty levels 10 weeks from now, I mine mostly new coins that have large upsides.

the scrypt  miners are slowly inching down toward the $100/mhs mark so it will take a quantum leap before they get to $44/mhs but may by the time these units arrive - regardless - time will tell.

It won't take a quantum leap in order to jump from 100$/mhs to 44$/mhs. You are comparing GPU-s to ASICs, not ASICs to ASICs. Last year in bitcoin mining we had a very rapid decline in prices. I'm expecting that too when it comes to scrypt since more companies will release their own chips very soon.

by who?

give me one example please.


and I'm not comparing gpu's to asic - I'm comparing asics to asics....

you can't even begin to compare gpu's to asics - it's like comparing goats to cheetahs

I'm not good with scrypt asics since my main focus is SHA256 asics, but you should know more than me. I know that Alpha Technology provides a Viper miner which is 90Mh/s for $9100  and the Zeus Miner which provides 72Mh/s for $9999. Also don't forget about KnC with their Titan and Mini Titan which is already better than 44$/mh/s?

I am sure that there are more, but I don't know them. Even if they have the same pricing expect a reduction in prices from everyone in order to get more sales.

72mh for $9999 is $138/mh

Viper - 90 mh for $9,100 is $101/mh

the Mining Asics Units at $44/mh is less than half the effective price of the other units and they're saying 125MH/machine is the MINIMUM and will probably be higher.

But no mention of KnC Titan and Mini Titan which are better than 44$/mhs?

And while you are praising their BTC miner you need to know that they are double the price/GH compared to Spondoolies Tech's SP30 miner.

you are confusing their scrypt miners and bitcoin miners

if we're talking bitcoin - their 6ths unit is $9,999 therefore it's $1,666/Ths

how much is spoontoolies per/ths $cost?

Actually from the spondoolies group buy, it was under 1,000 per th. Essentially it was really cheap and they said it was possible to overclock up to 6.5 TH. It is actually a much better deal, but I'm into scrypt now.

I love scrypt - so many coins to pick from - lots of opportunities to make $$$

they group buy didn't look like such a great deal though - at least the one in the bottom of that guys signature...that's he's promoting all the time.

yeah!

It's because he's promoting a different group buy from the one he had last time with the SP 30 which was 4,500 if you had a previous purchase with another ASIC company. If I can't get the scrypt within a certain time limit, I'm not buying anything. Probably just gonna get a few of the lightning ASIC 90 MH miners because they're shipping now and they are legitimate,

You are either really ignorant, bad intended or just too focused on the MAT company which I find a bit strange.

First of all KnC has some scrypt miners which obviously are not known to you. Let me help you: https://www.kncminer.com/categories/litecoin-mining-hardware

Secondly SP-Tech had a GB organized by me which offered 700$/Ths. Let me help you again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0


The current Group Buy that I'm organizing is for in stock miners and it's the best $/Ghs available right now of 2.20$/Ghs right after the S2 GB which is limited to 100 units only and has a better price/Ghs. I hope you do understand why in-stock miners are more expensive than pre-ordered miners and let me know if you can find a better offer if you say that it's not a great deal.

Seems Mining ASICs Technologies is in the news  :)

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/blog/mining-asics-technologies-toont-hun-3-terrahash-bitcoin-miner

Video can be found here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN69h9VTjs)

Yea I think they posted that video before.

Until someone in this forum has a unit in their possession hashing away, I'd stay very cautious with this outfit.

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

First conference introducing Bitcoin to Central Europe!

Invitation:
We have the greatest pleasure to invite you to the first Bitcoin related conference to be held in the heart of Europe – CEBE (Central Europe Bitcoin Expo). We look forward to meeting you at the Austria Center Vienna!

CEBE acronym means Bitcoin business entry into the region of Central Europe. This region is represented by the following countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. It will be the first and biggest conference of its kind ever held in this area. It is the opportunity to introduce the potential of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies to countries that are not really aware of its vast potential. Financial capitals such as Vienna, Bratislava, Berlin, Budapest, Frankfurt, Ljubljana, Munich, Prague, Warsaw or Zürich offer many opportunities to expand bitcoin business.

Buy your tickets now or sign up for a free ticket!    http://cebexpo.net/#ticket

We present there our Bitcoin Asic Miner prototype too

We hope to see you there!

Marc Coumans

CEO

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

Has any human being actually been to see this company in person? Would like to hear a real consumer feedback before placing an order

I have tried to contact them for my blog and youtube channels, almost no response.
They send me a message back they will call me, but non call contact until now. Other starting mining company already contacted me them selfs.

There office is for rent on a Big dutch real estate website for €750 a month here (http://www.fundainbusiness.nl/kantoor/maastricht/object-47401682-stationsplein-8-k/fotos/#groot&foto-7),  here (http://www.regus.nl/locations/office-space/maastricht-city-centre) and here (http://www.officetime.nl/panden/586/23/Maastricht-Stationsplein-8K/)

A other Firm is on the exact same address (http://www.trackbyte.nl/adres+en+bedrijfsgegevens/) called trackbyte.nl

Other Firms on the Exact same address
http://www.b9.nl/detail.htm?pid=417237
http://www.cylex-bedrijvengids.nl/reviews/viewcompanywebsite.aspx?firmaName=rbz-recherche&companyId=10731166
http://www.chauffeurscentrale.nl/contact/maastricht/maastricht.htm
And a Model Agency here: http://maastricht.yalwa.nl/ID_103832859/Models-in-Motion.html and they scammed someone here: http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1475861

It must be verry crowded to work and concentrate whit beautifully Models walking around, some secret agents walking around, Taxi drivers coming in for there lunchbrake...and you employé of Mining ASICs Technologies trying to concentrating creating the perfect Asic miners.
http://x4.fjcdn.com/comments/Oh.+Oh+my+_c3109dc8a42439cdb396f343861a0273.jpg
 

Bit weird the the bankruptcy of a firm on there address not so long ago (25 of February) Offical report Found here (http://www.oozo.nl/insolventies/maastricht/centrum/wyck/faillissement/807036/mosa-mobiliteit-services-bv)  

A Duch report (http://kassa.vara.nl/vraag-beantwoord/vraag/vadetail/is-wetalktelecom-wel-betrouwbaar/) form 2013 on the same address is a bit alarming, However this can be a totally other company rented the place before them.
A other scam report on that address from 2010 here (https://forum.www.trosradar.nl/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=73664&start=180)

Seems not to be a luckily address  :(

Official Things I found
On the Mining ASICs Technologies website we found there address to be  Stationsplein 8-K, I have checked that address, whit the Official Dutch (KvK) Kamer van KoopHandel* ( *Chamber of Commerce). they (KvK) told me there address is Stationsplein 8 and not 8-k. I think 8-K they named them selfs or the company who owns the whole building. Its common in Holland you create your own addresses like 8-a, 8-b,-8-c etc..
Report can be found here (https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/bestel-overzicht/?kvknummer=600044870000&product=In+het+kort) I have the paid full report to, I will not (jet) post that here. I you want i can email it to you.

Is there any good news?
Yes there is!!!!!
Here is a Video whit proof of there SHA-256 miner running really loud, like a new born child :-)
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcN69h9VTjs
Seems there are 7 Mining boards running at =/-430GigaHases each.
 

@Mining ASICs Technologies
Dear Mining ASICs Technologies, I want to visited your place, See for my self, talk to you to let people know its legit!
I want to see prototypes, to post pictures on my blog and here in this same topic.
Lets take the doubt away, let me tell people here what I think after meeting u guys.
Perfect PR, How about that!?


This are the pictures of there Office:
http://assets.regus.com/images/1338/officespace/1_454x340.jpg
Really nice building, they have a small place there

http://www.officetime.nl/uploads/images/Gallery/Maastricht-Stationsplein-8k/stationsplein-8k-03.jpg
Inside (thank you captain obvious)

http://www.newofficeeurope.com/images/serviced-offices/http:www.instantoffices.comphotos1381113811-48018.jpg_1_800_534_s.jpg
Kitchen and Bitcoin Price monitor?

Why do all those pictures look fake as f#ck?   ???

I don't question their existence or them being actually manufacturing miners, but when you see things like the above it definitely raises some question marks.

Hi Zeta0S

This is Marc, CEO of Mining Asics Technologies. Thanks for the great Pictures, but they are from the 7th floor and we are on the ground floor....but no worries, our Office is even nicer....I would like to invite you to our Office and I will Show you personally our bitcoin miners, so you can update the Forum afterwards.

We will attend the Bitcoin Event in Vienna this Weekend, so we can make an appointment somewhere next week. Please let me know when you will come so we can schedule some time!

Please send an email to info@mining-asics-technologies.com, mention that we have agreed on an appointment next week, so my Team can schedule it for us.

With kind regards,

Marc Coumans
CEO
MAT

@ma@mat

I asked in another thread but received no answer, so will ask again here:

You supposedly go to the trouble of developing bitcoin asics yet only provide one short, relatively useless, video as proof.

Why not spend an extra 10 minutes to make some better videos including some screens of cgminer or something that actually shows hashrate and not just some random piece of hardware?

I just cannot understand why you would not make this small effort to prove you are a legitimate asic company.

And why not answer peoples questions and concerns here on the forum?

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

First conference introducing Bitcoin to Central Europe!

Invitation:
We have the greatest pleasure to invite you to the first Bitcoin related conference to be held in the heart of Europe – CEBE (Central Europe Bitcoin Expo). We look forward to meeting you at the Austria Center Vienna!

CEBE acronym means Bitcoin business entry into the region of Central Europe. This region is represented by the following countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. It will be the first and biggest conference of its kind ever held in this area. It is the opportunity to introduce the potential of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies to countries that are not really aware of its vast potential. Financial capitals such as Vienna, Bratislava, Berlin, Budapest, Frankfurt, Ljubljana, Munich, Prague, Warsaw or Zürich offer many opportunities to expand bitcoin business.

Buy your tickets now or sign up for a free ticket!    http://cebexpo.net/#ticket

We present there our Bitcoin Asic Miner prototype too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBfheXMVOeg

We hope to see you there!

Marc Coumans

CEO

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

Im in vienna,

I will go and take a look, and let you know guys :)

hmmm the ticket is 120EUR :-/

i ll try to go in, let you know people....

so...... i was there. it was in fact a stand from them with a "bit coin miner prototype" it was not on and you cannot test it, of course they didn't have any script prototype and to be honest the guy there didn't seem to know much about the product. he said the first batch will be delivered on july and still they don't have a machine to show or test..... and they have this  "offer" buy 1 and get 2 of the 250Mhz machines....

i don't know all looked fishy to me....

I agree - spend a bunch of money to get a booth at a show and dummy up some bx just to rip people off...

LOL

I'm not saying it's fake or real but operating under the assumption that people won't go through extraordinary effort to perpetrate a scam is ignorant.  

LOL

http://i58.tinypic.com/2ns6h55.jpg

Many Thanks Rimba for your report from CEBE.

I was planning to visit myself but couldn't make it.

Mining ASICS Technologies has made a very bold statement and what they offer falls squarely under the "too good to be true" category.

I find it really unbelievable that they went through all this trouble to show a box just standing there.

Didn't they show any ASICs from their partner, any brochures with technical details on their products, not even turning on the prototype?
To deliver something like this by July you can't possibly be at a stage where your prototypes don't even function!!

I'd love to hear more from Mining Tech - bold claims need bold followup!

what is ""too good to be true" ???

jjj, I've been looking around for prices.
The next best thing (in terms of prices of course - nobody has seen products to factor in quality) is the alpha technologies Viper miner selling at 5.540 GBP (about 6.700 EU).
This translates to 27 Euro / MHs for a single Viper unit at 250MHs.
I may be missing some new competitor, of course, but the Excalibur offer comes at 22 Euro/MHs with the added benefit of getting TWO units so you can split mine or lower the risk of a single unit malfunction.
This to me is "too good to be true" and the reason why I wanted to visit Mining ASICs at CEBE.

A little background. I've been following these guys closely since they first made their announcement.

After doing a lot of due diligence of the individuals involved in the company before I decided to get in early and pre order a 125 MH unit.

About two weeks after I made my pre-order KNC announced they would be doubling their hash rates.

Mining-asics responded with a 2 for 1 promotion.

for me it all boils down to hash/$ and at $44/MH with their 2 x 125 offer it's simply incredible.

I know prices will continue to fall but we have yet to break the $100/MH barrier so waiting till the end of July or beginning of August is something I can live with at those prices.

besides - I'm already working with 164/mh right now.

I've had numerous conversations with Marc from Mining Asics and he has shared development progress with me and also how long it takes for certain things to happen development and manufacturing wise. I'm not a spring chicken and over the years I think I've become a fairly astute judge of character and I'm confident they'll deliver a quality product. In summary he's been totally transparent except in certain instances where an NDA prohibited him.

So - now I'm getting two 125MH units for the price of one. As it relates to "too good to be true" I'm not sure what you refer to to... 125 MH in a box (easily attainable since the Chinese are already pushing 90mh with Insilicon chips - I know I own an 85 MH unit) or the two for one promotion?

regardless - I know that KNC is their primary competitor in this arean right now although there's a british company that says they'll have a 250 MH unit out in July.

Personally - I do NOT WANT a 250mh asic miner. a 250 MH unit limits you to either dodge or ltc - no other coins can handle that kind of hash. I like to mine to new releases and the last thing you want to do is cripple you own ability to mine by blowing up network hash and attracting a lot of attention from multi-pools.

the entire concept of men with proven business backgrounds going to lengths like this to scam people is preposterous in my mind...especially when I know they're working on their miners and will deliver in the time frame promised. I know their schedules and what's to be done - because they've shared it all with me in conversations.

but - hey - we all make our own decisions and the best we can do if get a comfort level we can live with. I think choosing Minin asics over KNC was the right choice for me personally.

Why are you talking about a scrypt miner on a SHA-256 miner topic and forum?

They have both

Because it says on the top: Re: Mining ASICs Technologies Promises 6TH/s Bitcoin Miner And 200 MH/s Scrypt Miner

because we have a right to free speech....LOL

don't be such a content nazi - LOL

Exactly like you say it, "for me it all boils down to hash/$ and at $44/MH with their 2 x 125 offer it's simply incredible." Which means difficult to believe in, too good to be true.
Don't get me wrong: I'm enthusiastic about their offer and I appreciate that Marc has offered a lot of info about himself and the company.
I also absolutely agree with you about the HUGE benefit of getting 2X125 MHs instead of a single 250 MHs unit for the reasons you describe.

But since 5.000 Euro is not a trivial amount for me and since in this industry timing is everything, I really expected Marc to show a working prototype at the exhibition / conference.

I work in a humble, down to earth Electronics Cash Register manufacturer and we have fully working prototypes of new models to test a full 3-4 months before production. And our units work with humble, off-the-self components like ARM Cortex 3 microcontrollers, nothing special or custom made. So not showing off a working prototype 1-2 months before delivery is a red flag.

You do realize they would only need to sell like 1 machine to cover the costs of a booth + an empty server case right?

Maybe you are the one who needs to get your head out of the sand.

It makes no sense that a they would spend millions to bring this asic to life yet are incapable of showing anyone a prototype that has been working for weeks now.

MAT persists in ignoring peoples queries, including mine above which I think is a very reasonable request.

This is a huge red flag for me and shows either they are a scam and are trying to string this along and catch a few orders or they just don't care about customers! Either way not the sort of company I will be gambling with - thanks.

good luck guys - I'll post my hashing stats once my miners arrive.

:)

How kind of you to share this picture of yourself.  Have any more where your head isn't in the sand, but up your ass?

LOL - many actually!


Skepticism is a philosophy that was originally thought out by an Ancient Greek called Pyrrhon, and it is essentially about refusing all dogmas and suspending one's judgements. With skepticism, doubt becomes an end in itself. It also has a reputation of perceiving Truth as something unattainable.

But pushed to the limit, skepticism is contradictory.

If everything is to be doubted, then I have to doubt that I am doubting.
I can't even affirm that everything is doubtful, because if it is, then it is doubtful that everything is doubtful.

This attitude autodestructs itself. Skepticism is a vicious circle that one gets lost in.

Whereas naivety gets you seriously broke.

LOL - I absolutely agree with you

but aren't we all calculated risk takers?

All it takes is for BTC go to back down to under $100 and all of our mining equipment plummets in value right along with it...along with our investments

:)

Do not worry my friends, Tomorrow i will visit Mining ASICs Technologies, I will see there prototypes and meet the people working there.

I got a lot of questions true PM. If any of you have a request what i can ask for you, please send me a pm.

Zeta.

Waiting on your review.

Zeta, you will be doing all of us a great favor!
Looking forward to hear from you.

any pictures ... i like seeing pictures of hardware.

or a bloody video ... a video will really boost consumer confidence!

pictures and video already posted

Finally the SCAM is exposed


It seems that they just removed the Dream Chip from their Partners list:

what does that have to do with Mining-asics-technologies.com - that's a different company you're referring to.

Mining-Asics-Technologies still a partner with Dream Chip.

I think you're confusing the companies

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/partners/

Well my mistake then. Too many Mining Technologies companies. I still don't understand how come you are the only official voice around here.

I'm not an official voice but a customer waiting for his gear.

and Marc from Mining Asics does post but by his own admission to me via skype he's simply been too busy working the designers, engineers, etc to spend an reasonable amount of time on here...

however the other forum is visiting their office today and will hopefully have some feedback for everyone.

:)

https://www.facebook.com/mining.asics.technologies

Party of 1! How does it feel to be their only customer?

well - I know that's not the case because I look at their order numbers but if it was true then I'm inline to get the very first unit and the thought of hashing at 250MH and mining $350/DAY of LTC or DOGE makes me smile!

Break even is a little over 30 days. :)

This was exactly the same Titanium Bitcoin Asic Miner prototype we have showed at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna (AUSTRIA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBfheXMVOeg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458652641039308&set=pcb.1458655874372318&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458655517705687&set=pcb.1458655874372318&type=1&theater



By the way!! We are not MiningTechnologies.com 
 
WE ARE:  https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

what about a video from your script machines? i want to see that 300Mhs machine running and of course some interface showing the speeds....

scrypt is still in development and they do not have a 300mh machine anyway nor do they appear to be planning one. 250mf is their advertised max at the present time.

Where are you zeta, are you still living lol..... ;D

Hello all, I have been a bit sick today, so not before tomorrow I will give a big update.

What I tell right now, its a real company, whit real equipment. Got a Preproduction Titanium out of his box yesterday (heavy)
The CEO Marc Coumans knows a thing or two about the whole cryptocurancy and mining hardware. The Visited is a really positive experience.

Update..soon (I need to get better first..)

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/uploads/3/3/0/6/330647/5706009_orig.jpg

ok -ok - I'm not going to say I told all you so ....

so I won't : LOL

Party of 2  ;)

our post crossed.

I'm glad you had a great visit. Marc has been a real pleasure to work with.

and ...the silence is deafening....  ;)

:)

told us so what? ok they are real, but that doesn't mean they can't screw things up...

I have still got the Flu, so it will be a brief report.

On the Bitcointalk forums people ask for a independent source to visit the Mining ASICs Technologies.
So After a long drive (250km) I arrived at Maastricht.
At the reception of Mining ASICs Technologies (MAT) a friendly girl asked me to take a seat.
5 minutes later i am shaking hands whit the CEO Marc Coumans.
We took a seat and his start talking about the MAT company that he and his two partners started February 2014. They want to create a cheap 28nm asic chips.

Of course i asked about the miners itself, mister Marc Coumans got a big box from behind, we unpacked the pre-production Titanium 3 Terra Hashes miner.
The Titanium Has 7 Mining boards od 340 Giga Hashes. Its a heavy machine, really well build.
In the Final product sall have 4 Mining boards of 1.5 Terra Hashes each, whit a updated asic chip.
The Miners (scrypt and sha-256) will be a Modulair desing, so you can order extra mining boards later or replace broken boards. This all can be hot swapped!
We of Bitcoinupdate got a lot of questions about DreamChips, MAT has a exclusive contract to create there Asics chips.
So no other company will be using DreamChip as there FPGA or ASICs hardware cource.
I think people can take there own conclusions from that.

I must say i have really good impression of Mining ASICs Technologies.
Its a real frim, in a really building, and i have seen even some real people ;-)
It seems more then legit to me.
I hope my effort helped the mining community, and a thinks are more clear now.
If there are any questions, please ask them.

As reviewer my report also can be found here: http://cryptomining-blog.com/2641-a-visit-at-the-office-of-mining-asics-technologies/
http://cryptomining-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mining-asics-technologies-prototype-580x326.jpg

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/uploads/3/3/0/6/330647/4315470.jpg

More pictures can be found here (http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl)

Great post Zeta!  You really sold us on MAT.  Thank God you posted a pic of the internals and a CGminer reading....oh, you didn't?

Useless.

thank you so much - now people will stop questioning my sanity....well - at least the people here on the forum - my friends question my sanity all the time :)

Has the thread laid physical eyes on these systems? Legit or dodgy?

Am I missing the proof here? They showed a miner (probably a relabeled miner from a 3rd party) that has nothing to do with the product they are taking orders for.

And somehow this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are legit? Oh right, they have a real office with a friendly receptionist and a Rockminer with a MAT sticker covering the original one. This just HAS to be real, lol.

There is no real way of gathering such info to prove a company is legit or not until they have produced and dispatched enough miners to the point that peoples cognitive dissonance causes implosion. Youtube videos can be faked, mining stats can be jacked up, even independent witnesses could be paid off to say whatever...

The lesson miners have learnt is that preordering IS investing in high risk business ventures. Many took the gamble and many of those got stung when high risk business ventures turned out to actually be high risk.

There are enough functioning miners around now in the terrahash range that noone needs to preorder anymore. If you do, no matter how legit the business looks or even PROVES to be, even if the companies name is Spoondoleys or whatever, preordering = high risk business investment, its still a high risk idea NO MATTER WHAT.

Preorder at your own peril or if you have money to throw away.

Hello,

This is what i have seen, there is not more or less.  MAT knew i was coming, and this is what they has shown.
There were questions about they having a real office (including me), That`s been the case.
The Miner I hold is been the real thing, but still a pre production. There were no scrypt miners so no real proof there.
In have talked about 1.5 hours whit there CEO, and i had a good impression, that's what i report here for u guys (no thanks)

I cannot proof it they will make business mistakes, nor did i financial investigation on there
bookkeeping (someone ask true pm today). What i can do is make a visit and tell you guys what i have seen and my feeling about them.

The questions were Will there be a office? yes there is.  Is the CEO really there? Yes he was and he knows a thing or two about mining. Have you seen any products? I have seen one real sha256 miner.

Hope this will clear things up.

Zeta.
 

sorry - you are one of the bad guys now - don't you realize you are not permitted to say anything nice about any companies - unless of course is spoonfoolies... (sic?)

you will be pounced on...chided...second guessed, called a traitor...drawn and quartered and then hung from the gallows until you are silent...

welcome to the dark side LUKE!

 ;D ;D ;D

10 grand for 6 TH/s: https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/product/titanium-2-asic-bitcoin-miner-6-ths-super-low-power/

or

5 grand for 6 TH/s: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-1

I think the choice is clear.

or

$1300 for 1.2TH shipping in a few weeks. http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=35

Thank you Zeta for the report.

It really settles the question about existence of real offices and people at Mining ASICs Tech.
This by itself plus contract with DreamChips about ASIC development makes the whole operation very real and trustworthy.

The products, however, remain to be seen in operation.

So, as a would be buyer, I think I'll do what I usually do when buying laptops or digital cameras:

I will wait until I see an in depth review of a real product in real operation, complete with benchmarks and open case photos.

But still, very grateful for Zeta's report!

Hi,

has someone tried to verify the reliability of the second co-founder Sascha Buhr? In his profile on Linked (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/sascha-buhr/0/24/38a)  there is no mention of MAT and so far does not seem to be never appeared in photos together with Marc Coumans or whatever. In addition, between contacts Buhr, always on Linked, there is neither MAT nor Marc Coumans. There is no mention at all! Strange to be two co-founders of the same thing. From their profiles even seem to know each other!
There is another thing that I feel strange: doing a name search, it seems that Sascha Buhr is also co-founder of ArabCoin (http://www.arab-coin.ae/). Also in this case there is no mention of ArabCoin on the linked  profile of Buhr.
Has anyone done more research like this? I tried to contact him through his Facebook profile, but I'm not sure it's really his. I can not, but I hope someone can contact him through linked.
I agree with the position of some of you that it does not take much to change a asic third party. It is also the only model so far seen, not even a screen shot of his power.

We can not yet fully trust!

Im think the only thing wi can do is only buying if is there are stock en never pre order  ;D
The compagnys fucked us all the time  >:(

But they have desks.....

And it's wearing a cute little fez in the second picture.

+1 You sold us! HashFail had offices and a CEO and now they are in bankruptcy. I call your trip a fail trip. 0 solid proof just box of fans. Waste of gas.

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Did anybody already get his asic miner from MAT?

I dont see any people selling it on ebay,...so i think they didnt start to deliver until now?

Nope, no one has a miner in the wild.  Only pictures of their office carpet, desks, and metal box, but no live video of the internals of the asic chips or a video of CGminer hashing away.

Fantasy land so far, though it appears they have a "partnership" with Mimocloud:

https://mimocloud.net/

But they must be legit right? They go to Bitcoin conferences  ::)

Mimocloud contract:


Section 12, they can cancel the contract at any time without refund.
Section 9, you have two weeks from date of purchase to request a refund.  Since the contract doesn't start in October, by the time you realize it is a shitty deal you can't refund.
Section 6a, they can change the terms of the contract at any time, without you having any recourse.

They act all nice in this forum, but believe me, they will not deliver anything. I believed some good posts in facebook, that's why I bought miners. Its my biggest mistake now. Just drive at their mentioned address and see yourself. Pidarasi jobnutije. ))))

They claimed there was no need for independent verification because they were shipping to customers and customers would prove the miners. The last 4 times this has happened, its not ended well.

Dogie, you didnt receive unit? I think it expplains all, close the thread and ppl will not be scammed anymore.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485237.msg7126737#msg7126737
This is a LEGIT Person and he is a valued Full Member since serveral month

Which proved nothing, no machine shown hashing, just a "prototype" of a case.

I don't get it, you guys aren't stupid, you know that you would get a boatload of orders if you just showed a working machine but you just refuse to do it.

Which means you are either really really stupid businessmen and don't deserve our custom, or you are charlatans who don't have a product and are trying to rip off the unwary.

They dont have real products and dont have real business address as well.

gadtng3  are  you paid by a competitor ? You are telling no truth at all! after 12 hours you didnt sent a mail with your order ID so we understand all what you are telling is a lie and you are no customer from us.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458655837705655&set=pb.1424626227775283.-2207520000.1402998211.&type=1&theater
Picture of the miner. This miner we will show at the Inside Bitcoin in Hong Kong. Every interested customer can visit us there.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485237.msg7126737#msg7126737
This is a LEGIT Person and he is a valued Full Member since serveral month
He already visited our Office in Maastricht, The Netherlands

 ::)

@Mining-Asics-Technologies

Why don't you just show us the inside of the miner (not just the outside case), a link to the miner hashing away at Eligius or BTCGuild, and a video of CGMiner hashing away?  

It's not that hard.

They are a scam, stay away from them. I feel sorry for those who have already lost their money. Thank goodness I did not let cheat by these rascals. I am happy to have bought a miner from ZEUS, at least I'm sure that they are really shipped.

Its not about receiving a unit, its the attitude which doesn't make sense. Every single post for 15 pages across their 4 threads has been about 'we dont think you're real', yet they don't believe they need verification. It doesn't make sense unless they have nothing.

Don't worry, you can always go to their booth at Inside Bitcoins in Hong Kong to check them out!   ::)

Show us a working miner with real world proof.  Nope.  But advertise their presence at a major Bitcoin conference, and they're all over it.  They'll never pass up an opportunity for self-promotion, that's for sure.

This was exactly the same Titanium Bitcoin Asic Miner prototype we have showed at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna (AUSTRIA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBfheXMVOeg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458652641039308&set=pcb.1458655874372318&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458655517705687&set=pcb.1458655874372318&type=1&theater

Yet it wasn't mining nor did the staff at the stand know anything technical about it.

i gotta email yesterday saying i have 5 days to pay the full amount [65%] for my order otherwise i would be moved to another batch

i have checked the T&C and this is a breach of contract, also considering i would be picking up the product from Holland in person and triple checking the machines

i have yet seen proof of any scrypt based machines and getting a little cold with my deposit

I advise you to not send any money until you see at least a live demo of any miner.

sure thing brother!

I only see a box with fans
If they are legit and have have working units, they can send a unit to a trusted Heromember....

yes im think its not so difficult comaan MAT

yeah... i also received email...

well... i go to batch2 that they said is about 1 month after BATCH1...

They said will send in end of this year...  ???

Why do you send money to someone without a real and solid proof of a working miner?

My thoughts precisely.

They certainly are acting like scammers. Avoiding the real questions, providing no proof and insisting that they are legit and we are all just paranoid for asking for proof.  ::)

What the hell are they playing at

Mining Asics Technologies offers in cooperation with Genesis Mining:

Scrypt Cloud Mining – Investor 400 MH/s – START MINING TODAY!

How can they do this before delivering existing orders

Via Sim Mining. It's Sim Mining 101. It's not a Ponzi because real simulated miners are used.

Well check this post.

It seems some shenanigans is happening.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657647.msg7708630#msg7708630

I wonder if Genesis Mining is a part of this scam or just a tool.

Update on my post!!

Had a reply form MAT today seems I read the advert wrong, Genesis are using their own equipment for this offer and will start using MATs when delivered in August.

so there's still nothing out there that's clearly against them -- so far, so good...

With the August delivery dates moving closer, we're going to get wiser on this one, too.

http://youtu.be/-_FO3O5CWG8

3:58

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

See the differences between spondoolinse and shit MAT. The first show real asic, the second show only a fucking face.

yes, I do see the difference, I am not that much of a moron or something -- and it's a big difference, indeed, as far as the overall approach shines through. The Israeli guy is professional, cool, relatively seasoned in Bitcoin terms, and he know what he's talking about. Still, it proves nothing as far as allegations go of MAT being a scam. They are newcomers, and it shows. Maybe, they'll move up the scale soon once they have real products out and released on the market. Also, the krauts (or rather cheese-heads) rarely look very good, and they usually are appaulingly bad public speakers, you have to give all those Dutch or German characters out there a little credit. It's the best they can do :) , always has been that way.

I mean, you guys aren't really basing your good (or bad) opinion of something on superficial stuff like this?! This will get you nowhere. Seriously, I am looking for a bit more than just hearsay...

Anyone??

Could someone, please, paste the script of this nonsense he is talking?

Please!

 :o

That "crowdy audience yesterday" Coumans mentions could be either of

-a rowdy audience,
-a Krauty audience (which I'm sure the Maastricht kid would have been happy with...)

or maybe

-a cloudy audience (in case Hong Kong is subject to those global Chemtrailing crimes against humanity or "weather engineering" as well)...

Pretty sure he didn't mean crowded, for then he just could have said so *)

Anyway, just forget about it, he's talking garbage and doesn't even mention any of their products or what they're doing. That whole bit is exhibition smalltalk and "how great" that bloody expo is supposed to have been (pretty sure it was the lamest-ever, glad I didn't bother going there, you can read about it in all blogs and forums anyway); totally immaterial when it comes to mining hardware. So, again, we have absolutely nothing yet on MAT's ability (or inability) to deliver -- and deliver more or less on time :(

---

*) not really a native English speaker myself, but one ought to, at least, try and learn one's stuff before going out there to try and make a killing. Ouch.

I mean, while clearly appreciating the "start-up nature" of everything Bitcoin out there, I am wondering why there are so few reasonable players involved here. Take a good look around (and check them out for verification): from Bips.me and CryptoRush.io exchanges to Miner.eu or MAT, it's just your average **second-rate unemployed bum** running those "businesses".

And that's too bad.

LOL

They didn't show anything because the miner was too loud ;)

so how is it going?

any machine delivered? any update?

Its a scam company, don't bump the thread.

still the same nonsense here and still based on HEARSAY only. Come on, guys...!

Yeah, "scam-scam-scam till her daddy took the T-Bird away". And you really have nothing more to show for all your chattering :)

I'll give you some: there's no sign of them (Mining ASICs Tech B. V.) being any "scam", but they seem to be as second-rate as most of the other mining manufacturers out there, not good at managing their projects, meeting deadlines, ridiculously poor quality customer communications, and not good at keeping anyone informed, not keeping promises and deadlines for updates etc etc...

BUT: they are inching forward baby-step by baby-step and should have their "Batch 1" stuff out soon. Cannot really tell myself (as I am unfortunately in "Batch 2"), but at least they are DOING SOMETHING.

"A scam" would be when someone or a group of people make shiny promises and collect the pre-payments without ever delivering anything nor the intention to deliver eventually. (Not sure if everyone out there really knows what they are talking about when throwing around "big words" like that)!

So, for all those big-mouthed strongmen out there, M. A. T. are apparently quite mediocre but NOT A SCAM.

did you "invest"?

--> yes, I did ("Batch 2" though, as said above), so this thing should show within the next four weeks or so, unless they want to rank even lower on *keeping* their promises. Currently the due date is officially "September"...

I guess, we'll know a lot more once it becomes clear whether or not "Batch 1" is delivered -- and when!

Seems only the "investomers" are singing their praises, since they have a stake in it and are "hoping" they finally ship.

M.A.T. is not a full on scam per se, but more a "long con" probably like Black Arrow.

You'll get your product eventually after enough complaints or lawsuits are brought up, but definitely after any profitability is out the window.

By your own description they can be stated as a scam until they deliver the units on spec. Since they have missed the original shipping date and haven't actually provided any actual hashing proof or provided dogie with a miner i would not advise ordering from them. I would also not advise ordering from anyone unless they can provide proof of a prototype or they are already shipping miners. I haven't seen them deliver an on spec miner yet so for now i wouldn't personally order from them or recommend ordering from them to others also the issue of them trying to pass of someone else's miners as their own is a bit suspicious. Also the fact that the miner that they claim to be a "prototype" of the miner is considerably lower spec then they are claiming.

Worse than that, the miner they claimed to be their prototype was actually the miner of a completely different company. The offices they claimed to be their own were only rented for a week or so for the pictures. The products their claimed to be making (and wanted reviewed) never existed. The website, emails and domains cancelled.

Its a scam, lawyer up and stop bumping this thread.

website is up for me.


Dont FUD.

But then again.


ASIC Bitcoin Miner

Hashrate minimum guarantee 6 TH/s (Super Low Power) – CALL US FOR LARGER MACHINES AND QUANTITIES!!

Batch 2: Shipments will start in September/October 2014


Batch 1 never appeared and neither will the rest.

you really don't get it, do you??

Also, for the record, I did not "recommend" that people order there as I am not so sure myself how my "singing praise" (where BTW??) will work out in the end.

To be fair though, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty, and you guys whining around in the forum and calling to lynch them on the basis of wholly unfounded claims are quite juvenile...

It's all a matter of behaviour (and style).

I wish I could send you back in time to late 2012 and force you to pre-order from every single ASIC company that has ever posted here.  You'd be broke as fuck and have maybe 4 miners out of the 25 you ordered.

There's a reason people here are so quick to jump on the "scam" bandwagon, and that reason is because 80% of the ASIC "companies" that have posted their shit here have been scams.

I'm with all the others that have seen this over and over, you probably got ripped off.  Sorry bout' that.

yeah, "probably" (what's that supposed to be good for??) or probably not -- who knows?

And you would go and include those "innocent 20%" in your lynching then? These are very dangerous world views. How extremist do we want to become, shall we all join Obama and his NSA thugs now in order to be even "more secure"? These days it seems that even Bitcoiners need a nanny, wow. Thanks, but I'll pass.

Yes, I have had my fair share of shenanigans played on me, and not only since 2012 and not only in Crypto land. So I think I know what I am talking about. Yes, I have been ripped off myself (elsewhere), but that doesn't mean that I treat everyone like sh*t as long as they don't deserve it...

There is still absolutely no substance in all these "scam" claims here, so it's not helpful at all, just a waste of time. It would be a different thing if just ONE person came forward to break out some proof and tell the world that they are not going to deliver on Batch 1. ONLY THEN there would be a story.

To stress it once again, M. A. T. B/V are quite ridiculous and their way of going after their business is idiotic and not business-like. So far, they do not appear to be fraudsters though. Be reasonable.

I agree with this.


You would actually be surprised the amount of experience people in this thread such as Dogie and Dropt have i would heed their advice in a situation like this. Also i do get it i have seen situations like this before. I would advise not going down the route of denial and act as quickly as you can. I did not say you recommended ordering from them that was a comment based on my opinion. I agree with your comment about innocent until proven guilty in general but for bitcoin hardware manufacturing it just isn't the best way to look at things. That is like saying if a company appeared today offering 1PH/s miner running of a single 8nm chip that until someone had proved them to be a scam they are safe to order from. The company in question here hasn't shipped batch on on time they also haven't shown the community a miner that conforms to the specifications that they claim can be reached. What information have i pointed out that isn't an unfound claim? It was proven that they tried to pass of someone else's miner as their own. They have also missed batch 1 shipping dates and haven't provided video that backs up their claims of a 6TH/s machine.

according to the last news they should ship batch 1 week 35/36

NVM, that was the other simiarly named scam.

This is the one that had no prototype and even though the first 10 pages of the thread were lined with customers saying "I will throw money at you if you can prove you have a prototype", they said "why would we do that, our customers will verify we are real when we ship". No company ever, ever, ever has been stupid enough to say that.

Anyway, please give them your money.

On their website it says they received chips at the start of this month and where optimising. For PR reasons if you had such an efficient chip on hand would you not be boasting about it all over the place showing everyone your marvellous feat of engineering? I will happily remove speculation if they can deliver something on time and on spec but i just done see it happening. They also state they will include a power supply from my interpretation "We are planning to deliver our ASIC bitcoin miner Titanium 2 WITH a power supply" that means a single power supply and i don't think that it would be achievable for a 6TH/s miner to be powered of any current single PSU on the market considering the likely power that will be required for the chips.

Ill pass, only real investments for me some taxable some not.

This bitcoin pack of card will collapse and some point.

Well well well.

so.... still nothing from them so far  ::)

oh contraire...

https://www.facebook.com/mining.asics.technologies

LOLOL!   :D

Hey triple J, you receive your Scrypt miner yet?

Have you received your 24MHS miner?

the answer is no because that is not what I have on order

What do you have on order? When do you expect delivery?

Hey mr spoondoolies salesman...how are you.

I have 2 300mhs scrypt units on order and I expect them by sept 15

How are those spoondoolies machines selling anyway?

From the chips photo it seems they were made week 34.


Well stone me if they deliver, but that's the scrypt.

What happened to the 6TH Bitcoin chips?

http://vimeo.com/104902360

Running and hashing without the power supply plugged in? That's a new one.

its not running its "runnig" probably to noisy too show it turned on.

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/category/news/

odd they haven't posted the 'NEWS' .

It turns out they never made a bitcoin miner/chips and just bought one from another company called "coinbau".

That would be fine except for the fact that the miner they bought (and claim to be selling) was 1.8TH instead of 6TH and 1w/gh instead of 0.37w/gh.

Well the scrypt miner runs on air as seen in the video.

I purchased 7Mh / s of scrypt Cloud Mining. It had to start 30/08/14, but nothing. I sent several e-mails but nothing ......... Has anyone bought the same service?

You have been warned...

Anyway, they sent me bills payment orders.

Do you know someone who has purchased from MAT the same service?

Use this address cw@mining-asics-technologies.com it is the CEOs

We are now at the end of week 36, anyone received anything yet?

Yeah the tooth fairy brought mine this morning.

What's the verdict? Legit or not?

V

same game other place
www.turingstations.com
i´m 100% sure they are scam , but side and everything looks really good >:(

You know the drill already.  If Dogie or another senior member doesn't have at least a review unit, they fugazi.

As the saying goes, "Proof is in the pudding".

They failed the drill on this one. "Why would we need to verify ourselves? Our customers will do that?" *facepalm*

No other company has ever come out with a one liner like that. And was when the first 6 pages were people saying "I have money, let me give you money please, just prove you have what you're saying you have."

They still haven't shipped a scrypt miner yet, but had had the chips for a month.

The SHA miner is vaporware where they even pretended a German outfits BTC miner was theirs.

LONG CON.

welcome to the cryptowest.

Hmm, interesting similarities in page source between the two website front pages.

For example both have:

<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast WordPress SEO plugin v1.5.2 - http://yoast.com/wordpress/seo/ -->

And various other coincidences.  ::)

Ok, appreciate it guys. Just wanted to confirm.

Hi there
i yesterday write to dream chip ( i´m from germany )
if there are supplying Asics Technologies with their chips.
If i will recieve an answer i will post

Hi
no answer
but i found this :


Hello jimmothy,

we sold two of our miners to Marc Coumans and MAT about 3 months ago in the context of negotiations with them.

However, the miners were developed and produced by us. As you can see on the picture there is our ASICrising logo on the board. Here is an image of the testboard which we used to test the first samples of our chips:

you will find pics and more here in talk under CoinBau

 ;)

and and??

no answer
but :

Mining Asic Technologies? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=719143.20)
answer:

Hello jimmothy,

we sold two of our miners to Marc Coumans and MAT(mining asics technologies) about 3 months ago in the context of negotiations with them.

However, the miners were developed and produced by us. As you can see on the picture there is our ASICrising logo on the board. Here is an image of the testboard which we used to test the first samples of our chips:

It´s from forum here where markus from coinbau shows pictures from miners build from Asicrising(will become coinbau)
and someone ask if there are from mining asics technologies,seems they claim that there are their miners.

Hi there get answer :


Sehr geehrter Herr Kuhn,
 
vielen Dank für Ihre e-mail. Als Stellungnahme kann ich zumindest sagen, dass wir augenblicklich keine Geschäftsbeziehung mit MAT haben!
 
 
Best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
Heiko Henkel
 
________________________________
Dream Chip Technologies GmbH
Director Business Development
Heiko Henkel
Steinriede 10
30827 Garbsen
Web: www.dreamchip.de
Email: mailto:heiko.henkel@dreamchip.de
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hannover, HRB 205068
Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Peter Schaper, Dr.-Ing. Jens Benndorf
UStid-Nr.: DE 268323600
Steuernummer: 27 200 19695

So at moment no cooperation between MAT and dream chip
Sorry to say that :'(
 

next answer from dream chips :

but only at the moment no cooperation

but we still communicate with them , so maybe no scam  :)

???

Can you ask dreamchip if they have already developed/produced/tested scrypt asics for MAT?

They claim to already have chips and working miners.

So i ask dreamchip ,
getting answer that they couln´t say something to this cause of secrecy agreement.

HaHa!  The old NDA defense to the Long Con.

Believe me, if they had working chips and miners, they wouldn't be so coy, they'd make sure demo/review units were all over the place, youtube videos, and plenty of marketing and actual photos and proof were produced.

Until they provide an actual miner to someone in this forum, they can't be anything other than a scam.

So one month on from the last news update and still nothing.

So uh....it's Sept 17th, any word on those Scrypt Miners on order?

Would love to see these miners in action.

yeah show me those miners

26th september... are they sending those miners?

Two more weeks™

Sorry. I couldn't resist!  ;D

MAT Excalibur delivery starts 26.09.2014

Dear customers,

After a delay of a few weeks we can announce that shipping for our first customers will start on 26.09.2014!

We will ship in weekly or two weekly shipments for Batch 1 customers. All customers will get updates when their miners are being shipped. Tracking numbers will be send to your E-mail address. Goodwill will be offered and is being negotiated right now for this delay.

We will start with order numbers from 1 to 500, 501 to 1,000 and so on. Special contracts will be approached individually based on their agreement.

Cloud mining service has got the same delay so we will start our cloud mining October 1st. For all customers that ordered our cloud mining service we will have compensation for the lost time too.

We apologize for this delay and we will improve our business.

Best regards,

The MAT Team

September 19, 2014 / News

so I assume they are shipped already......

but are they? and exactly what re they shipping?

any in the wild?

They shipped!!!! .....an email:

Hi xxxxxx,

we started shipping, but found a manual intevention to do. We will fix that so we can resume the shipment again. We will post a message

With kind Regards

The MAT Team

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
Stationsplein 8-K
6221 BT Maastricht

Tel +31 (0) 43 7999-044

What are they shipping? SHA or scrypt miners?

Neither. Its all bullshit

Fairy dust algorithm:

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/025/f/4/fairy_dust_by_desperadofromhell-d382bh2.jpg

After all profitability goes out the window and you start threatening them with lawsuits, then they will magically ship.  It's magic!

Nice picture  ;D

If u guys want, i can call Marc Coumans?

yeah call him.

Oke, are there any question u guys wanna know?
Pm me your question or post them below.

If u guys want, i can call Marc Coumans?
[/quote]

Did you ring him???

Where is the SHA miner?
Whats the hold up with the script miner?

Hi guys. Does somebody asked them to show a video of their products?
I'm looking for 200-300 mhs scrypt miner, but I think video is the only one good proof of real product.

This is a scam until real hard proof is shown.

 :D
 ::)

We started shipping to our first few customers last week, end of Q3, as announced. We did find however, a software bug we need to resolve. We had to decide to stop further shipments, until we have fixed the bug. Right now our Software Team is working hard to get it fixed. We expect this to be finished by the end of this week, so we can resume our shipments again.

With best regards,

The MAT Team

October 8, 2014

Not one single person has one in the wild I expect.

LOL yeah right

So they started with a stop. Ok....

So triplej you gots them money making Scrypt miners yet?  Did Marc Coumans hook you up with the good shiz or what?

Thanks for reminding me to prod him in the other thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=609277.msg9145188#msg9145188

jj?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3587-what-is-going-on-with-mining-asics-technologies/

still no new from shilly JJ

the sound of silence.

I want to see a list of people who payed.

Order number, paid amount in bitcoin, the way you paid MAT. Do not forget to post the miner you ordered and date!

they are legit

Have any proof of that?

LOL

Fucking busted.

Let me guess meccoin4me is one of those accounts that was sold off to a noob just to join a signature campaign.

I mean Senior member, but with a recent post history like that.  Wow.   ::)

Quote from MAT tonight via Email

News us actually good. Fix done. Production started again. News on website this weekend.
MfG / Regards
Marc Coumans
CEO

Oh shit I believe now!!! I am all in....sign me up for a thousand orders!!!!! /sarcasm.

Saying it's legit without proof is like saying superman is real and showing nothing to prove it. Up to now this miner is as real as superman.

LOL
sad, sad tries, almost like minereu.com....

No, I actually saw Superman on tv/video.
So my conclusion is Superman is way more real than their miner! 
:D

Indeed. I would concur.

this weekend means which weekend exactly....

...every weekend. This has been going on for months now!

I,
I sent lots of mails to MAT since a few weeks. Regarding the difficulty of litcoin going up the shipment delays are hard to manage with.
No answers from them. When i called i can only speak to a secretary who doenst know anything about my orders...
I don't feel confident about getting any devices...
Is there any law help i can use ?
Thanks.

lol MAT....anagram for AMT. Maybe the same players. After all Joshua Zipkin did state he would start other entities. Its in the doxxed chats....who knows.

I just don't get why they still try to keep appearances but in a very sloppy way. They should either:

1) Take the money and run and not bother to communicate anymore.

or

2) Continue keeping customers hopeful perhaps to the point where they can actually deliver some worthless rebadged hardware and pocket the difference without officially running away with it.


What they are doing now is neither here nor there.

Aren't you glad to get such brilliant advice  ;D

Sooo Zeta0S...what happened with them being a real company with real equipment?

ZetaOS, please give full disclosure on your relationship with MAT and/or Marc Coumans... Announcing BFL is about to go bankrupt. Supporting MAT?

I am the owner of a Dutch Bitcoin news website, thats it.

After i got a lot pm`s/email, i suggested to create a list of people that are waiting from there miners, so i can see the scale of the problem.
Yesterday i have informed Marc Coumans about that list (by phone)

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/mat-production-shipments-started-october-20th/

Yeah right  ???

Still not a single solid proof. What a lame company...

the first of my two Mining-asics 250 MH/s Scrypt mining units will be delivered today.

I will post pics and screen snaps - I was one of the first orders and you can find my posts on here as jjj092353 but switched profile names since I took over these pools about 2 months ago and expanded the pool from 3 coins to about 20 coins and counting and it has consumed me.

I am little disappointed that the units is arriving 30 days later than promised, but they're arriving and Marc sent me screen snaps of the unit hashing at 280 MH/s instead of 250 Mh/s

Yea, I'm disappointed but Marc did stay in touch with me explaining the delays and kept me in the loop. I had a good feeling about Marc when I placed my pre-order - a much better feeling than I had with the KNC Guy even after meeting him face to face in NYC earlier this year - yea I'm a little disappointed but certainly not as disappointed as the people who pre-ordered from KNC or Alpha technologies


http://i60.tinypic.com/b504g2.png

:)

Triple J is back!!!!!

Resurrected as the sock puppet known as lifeforcepools.  Can't wait to see these make money money make money money Altcoin printing machines!

OH MY GOD!!!


this must be so painful for you guys are are now eating your words....

let me think - vaporware - scammers, when I have time I'll go back through the thread and repost all the accusations...

here's my new machine sitting in my office in West Chester, Pa.

psu's get hook up later around lunch time when I have some time and to the moon!

so solly charlie!

http://imgur.com/w7Zbnad

Is your name Jeff by any chance?

it's all ok guys - I understand the need to skepticism because I know that some of you have your hearts in the right place in terms of protecting people from scammers - but for those of you who have ulterior motives in attempting to discredit Marc's company - shame on you.

:)

I searched for similar images and this came up. Not today google.

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/T2eC16FHJGFFm1kJmRJBR1RSF60_3.jpg

check the exif header - my phone records lat & lon on all pics...

LOL

I wasn't talking to you, I was criticising google image search.

LOL

no need to be nasty - but of course I've come to expect it in this thread....

such venom from people who have no skin in the game...

You didn't answer my question, so I'm just going to assume that you're the same Jeff from MAT's facebook page - the only person there claiming to have received shipping information.

No need to get defensive, I'm just trying to gauge how many of these boxes they shipped. I count 1 so far.

Still no sign of the 6TH miner then?

Here it is, your 6 Th miner: https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/ (https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/)

 ;D

Hahaha good one Rabinovitch.

Moral of the story, you'll never win with pre-orders.  Never ROI, never succeed, you're just basically donating your money to these greedy long con ASIC manufacturers.

Uranus is fitting.  That's what's going to hurt the most as soon as you click Buy!

What is the hash rate of this machine? And can I pre-order it?

exactly -- that's what I've been saying here all the time!!

Myself less-than-thrilled about MAT, indeed, I tried to find out real word-on-the-street news and updates from ANYONE about MAT's delivering (or not delivering) any machines here. Response results: totally zero-nada-zilch-zip. Off-topics and unfounded "Scam" accusations (other than founded on hot air and hearsay, but I can do that myself): loads-n-loads, megatons of garbage, but not one single usable bit of information on the actual situation and on whether or not anyone got a box delivered back around the end-of-Q3 deadline!

Everyone out here has accused my of "singing MAT's praise" and similar, just for critically investigating the situation and trying to get some REAL answers. Well-well.

Yours is actually the FIRST USABLE report that I see on anything-MAT and on MAT boxes actually existing -- guess that I could have talked to you right inside your own pool message board, had I known that you're in on those MAT pre-orders ;)

Marc still deserves LOTS of discredit for their amateurish handling the entire situation, for not responding to e-mails, for sitting on pre-order money and stonewalling buyers, and for trying to "sit out" as much of these delays as possible, and then some, which are faults in their own sphere (not mine).

This is  not the way to do business, and they will have to improve on that or shut down their ridiculous two-person weekend operation altogether. They have NOT DELIVERED as promised, and those full-mouthed promises were B-I-G. This is their mistake, and legally it is misrepresentation. Very disappointed to see that this "unregulated" (which should actually be a good thing!) business attracts so many sore losers, con-artists, unemployed who want to get rich quick, as well as unprofessional moonlighters not delivering anything useful.

Yes, these are "experimental" products -- but, then again, why are Zeus miners all over the place, delivered on time, running nicely etc? And why not, AT THE VERY LEAST, alleviate the other troubles and hiccups by reliable and reasonable customer communications?!

This would go a long way in preventing these unnecessary "scammer" accusations. Also, their pathetic attempt to "secure" themselves by the kind of General Terms they are using (KnC-style) is quite telling. "Unfair contract terms" at it's best :))

BTW, was yours a "Batch-1" delivery? (I "am" in Batch 2 myself :( but at least things seem to be moving a bit at MAT now)...

I see a rackmount server case with fans, stickers and no lights on the front.  Does it hash or is it just another box of fans?

Calling this proof this mob isnt a scam is laughable.

Proof is a running miner showing a hash rate not the outside of a box.

P.S  Any "unregulated" business will be full of scammers and con artists.  They go hand in hand.  Why expect anything less than people not doing the right thing to be involved in something where no one forces them to do the right thing?

Just see the banksters for proof how well a lack of regulation works

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837673.0

Looks a bit like a Alchemist 256Mhs

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/uploads/3/3/0/6/330647/1002830_orig.jpg

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/uploads/3/3/0/6/330647/3896983_orig.jpg

kind of - but without the big gaping holes that compromise the ability to cool the cards(s)...

That`s becorse its a picture from the alcheminer 96mh/s

This is the 256, looks like a exact copy, however it`s a working miner, if the customers get a comparable item, juridical i see not problems
https://www.alcheminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/new_miner.png

Ok, so it was option 2 then, just without proper communication. I'm sure customers who paid 10k EUR or whatever the price was months in advance will be thrilled to receive a $3000 box.

I am sure they are really happy (not)

Can someone tell me how many time its to late?  I read delivery in Q3 right? So 30 September has been the deadline?  (It`s a pre-order so delays are expected)
Whit a huge delay a compensation can be in-place/needed.  If i am right whit 30 September deadline, the question can be is 4, 5 or 6 weeks a huge delay? Also the miner seems a bit faster then 250 MH/s right?

Looks ALOT like an Alchemist 256MH/s to me.. Good find.

I do. Lots of them, in fact.

Well, if it been a car, and you ordered a polo for 10.000 and you get a Toyota Yaris whit a VW loge whit the same price tag and specs i do see a lot of issues.
But whit a miner were looks ain`t one of the primary points, i see lesser problems.  However a settlement still can be in order due to delays.

Guy`s, it`s still only one miner that`s received right?

I don't think the price for the MAT miner was anywhere near the price for the Alchemist. So it's not just delays. But to be honest I didn't buy it so why should I care. If they only have one customer and he's happy - I'm fine with that.

A total of 0 people have received miners from this scammer company

I have received the following information via a PM and I was asked to publish it. While this is unverified it seems to be on par with what is happening with this SCAM ASS COMPANY

Mining ASICs Technologies B.V. Customers on FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/888654404518753/

join us and lets find a solution!!!!

we are a wealthy group of naive investors   ;D

I wish you good luck.

I guess MAT started to ship out. I have order number 1495 and I got my Excalibur 5 today. and it is running between 564 and 600 Mhash with a diff of 20.000.
I hope you guys will get your miners soon as well.
http://i58.tinypic.com/dljgc3.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/33xdbeu.jpg

 :o :o :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)  Nice!
Picture inside?

Unfortunately this still doesn't prove anything.
The orders apparently are not being shipped in numerical order, one after the other.
it looks like MAT is shipping out a couple of random orders in hope of stalling the lawsuits that are rolling in and keeping the community confused.
And last but not least, these machines look so much like rebranded alcheminers it's uncanny.
Oh, and then there's the fact that NO ONE has received a refund yet. Many people have applied for a refund half a year ago and have seen nothing so far...

More information:

So only 2 sock puppets got 2 MAT miners...YAY?   :-\

http://staging.hq.isafe.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/spn_names.png

Original post from Renton Bonaventura https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006321996927&fref=nf
https://www.facebook.com/groups/352627768251593/permalink/352752534905783/
The Alcheminer-MAT Game in greater detail:
 MAT agreed with alcheminer to a joint production venture with the figure something around 2M $ for the development. It was a shared deal 50% - 50%. But MAT does not have any rights in the IP (asic chip design). For the 2M $ there are included 50K Asic Chips with own MAT Logo - that's why the alcheminer chip and MAT chip are identical. The chip is the same as the Alcheminer Chip! With 50K Chips you can make 195 miners, each with 256 asics inside, but of course still there are additional costs for the whole miner manufacturing, case, boards, software, controller board... of about over 800$ each.

But now the latest news:
 MAT doesn't even have the 2M$, so MAT received around the end of September only 10K chips. Nothing more - because all money from preorders was invested only in the development of the asics, not in the miners itself.

Now after the GAW miner deal, MAT had some money to pay for the last 40K asics and to the manufacturer of the miners. Thats why MAT still doesn't have miners... because MAT shipped all miners to GAW (Marshall Long as commission for the GAW deal), another cloudmining company, and 3 or 4 customers.

 To ship or make refunds for all customers MAT needs to raise more than 1,3M$. But the margins of selling the miners now are too low to make a profit of 1,3M$.

I see you are using links to newly made accounts at FB, who is former employee at MAT Mr. Bjoern, who sofar has made more than 8 different accounts at FB, who is also providing confidential info to people like you.
Did you know, after he admitted yesterday, that he is the one who changed the Passwords on MAT`s facebook account + MAT`s homepage, so MAT cant update there customers !!!
Im just saying that you have to be careful who you provide info from....
By the way. Alcheminer runs max 250 Mhash and a MAT runs 282-300 Mhash ?? So even if they made a joint venture on the chip design, that is very commend in the ASIC world, there is still a huge difference in performance.

The only difference is the number of boards.

Most lies is coming from this former worker of MAT, trying to destroy a business with his Wild West approach, that's for sure.
No doubt that MAT should have done info much better and I hope they will in the future, but all this 50/50 confidential info/lies from this former worker is unbelievable, and if he was one of my former employee I would make sure he would be chased half around the globe...
I hate how Crypto has become, Wild West and people hiding behind aliases, like this guy Bjoern, who is also the founder of the MAT scam page on FB.
If you need more info on delivery schedule I have noticed another MAT Fan facebook page made by a guy called Jeff, were MAT puts on delivery schedule, since they cant update their homepage due to this Bjoern has changed the passwords...

What is the board amount in the Alcheminer then, just so I can check with my MAT machine.

same number of boards - chip IS different

https://www.facebook.com/matminers


and ps: in the interest of full disclosure since I do not create fake FB profile or hide behind alias name - I am the 'Jeff' Xircom referred to above and for the record: I love my MAT miners. LOL

This Bjoern, deleted his Scam page yesterday at FB, because he admitted to hack the MAT FB account and Homepage and changed the passwords so MAT cant use them. After he noticed what he just did in the FB scam page he deleted the whole group and has just opened another group with all his own posts and with Newbie accounts all over the place "his own accounts"
Best part is that I made a copy of what he admitted to me on that FB and I have sended this info to the MAT e-mail adr.

This is the FB text that Mr. Bjoern posted and deleted right after:

Martin, I can tell you that I am only behind this account..
and not any more acounts.
After Marc has paid my invoices we can talk about any passwords. And for the website Marc Coumans have all login and password alone!!!!!!!________________________________________

And here is the link to the deleted FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2F888654404518753%2Fpermalink%2F892997740751086%2F&aref

they make a 2 board and an 8 board machine  - in fact I've seen pictures of the two board piece of junk they ship - huge gaping holes where their should be fans -and with only a 90 day warranty I can understand....cause the boards are gonna burn up anyway since they've compromised the cooling of the 2 boards... LOL

MAT Miner front page:

http://i60.tinypic.com/154yek2.jpg

Before posting, you should check out the messenger.... Renton Bonaventura = Bjoern

well well sock puppets you say? I think people have to been a little bit patience before making any accusations about any company. Okay the communications was bad, but there have always answer my mail and phone call(a bit late but always an answer). patience is the key word my people.

Holy mackerel!  The amount of sock puppets keep growing in this thread...

http://mcdn.zulily.com/images/cache/event/334x1000/sokkiez_HP_2012_0707TB21341355195.jpg

Can't blame MAT for not trying...

First i am not from MAT and i dont know someone at MAT. I am just some one with a order. Just because you didn't got your miner yet doesnt mean there are a bad company. A lots of people aready got there miner and there dont what to share the info. If you call ever body some sock puppet of MAT that is insulting dude. I think you should think before you speak bro!

Why did you come to post here right now if you are not MAT? How come that you weren't present here before?

don't waste your time or your keystrokes - they're haters..ignorant and rude - I'm surprised they even have time to post since you'd think they'd be cleaning up mess from the spoonfoolies data center fire - probably don't have wives either and even their dogs ran away...

haters....

oh well - haters gonna hate!

meanwhile in maryland...

 :) :) :)

https://i.imgur.com/F2UAam3.gif


:)

LMFAO!  Newbie account with only 2 post history and 2 of them in this thread alone.   ;D

At least scam harder MAT, you won't get new customers(suckers) in this forum.  Way too many educated and informed people in the community to blow your con open.

To any "real" newbie miners reading this thread out there, this company has already failed the scam-o-meter here in Bitcointalk:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855046.0

Once CKolivas puts you in scam prison, yous don'ts gets outs ya hear!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aLwHu7El0os/TAuLzYy6PSI/AAAAAAAAA8Q/4Z2rqAY9c0w/s1600/scammer.jpg

eat your hearts out haters!

https://i.imgur.com/QEdHX4C.png

https://i.imgur.com/QCekhBs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ISKORQh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/w8gBmsC.png

I just joint the scrypt and MAT was my first investment in an miner so that is why i never been here before.
Still is not right just calling people puppets of MAT that is a insult dude!! You dont know me like i say i am just a customer so dont call me what i am not. That is just rude bro!!! Who do you think you are bro...ever body have to start somewhere. So i am a bit late to joint the scrypt that make me a puppet bro you are a sick dude!!!

And thanks lifeforcepools

haters - plain and simple - their Spoonfoolies guys - check their other posts - they sell spoonfoolies gear

So this how the scrypt world looks like.....haterssssssss
If you are new at this game you must be a puppet of some company nice to know that people!!! Thanks you guys for the insult!!!

they're bitcoin guys - it explains the arrogance....

Thank god there are still normal people lifeforcepools here  :) or are you also a puppet hahaha like me

And it will never break even or make a profit. Ever.

After about a year it will stop earning anything whilst still $2800 away from paying for itself.

Scrypt ASIC miners are worse than BTC ASIC miners for generating positive ROI, not that Bitcoin ASICs are much better  ::)

Maybe i will not ROI that is alright, sometime you win some and sometime you lose some...that is life

how many spoondoolies burned up in that fire?

you know the pages on their website of a beautiful data center didn't look anything like than ram shackled wooden lean too they had everyone's computers in...

a tinder box just waiting to go up in flames...

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0389/3233/t/12/assets/hosting.jpg?4411

http://gizmodo.com/a-huge-fire-took-out-a-bitcoin-mining-operation-1655981855

wow - sure doesn't look like that pretty data center pictures on their website in the photo above does it?

things that make you go hmmmmm.....

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vxmgcr2C--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/pepxlzrotfmujmjwjp0c.jpg


and this is what is SUPPOSEDLY looked like before the fire - OMG do they think we just fell out of the sky?

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ub0XDZC---/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/gy7tinvjyyrisqhcwwqq.jpg

That proves nothing. As it was already posted MAT paid for some third party chips to be painted with their logo. And yes they have delivered a few miners to a couple of "customers". That still doesn't prove they aren't a scam with so many sock-puppets accounts. This is AMT all over again.


How did you find out about MAT miners? Why haven't you joined this forum long before today? Why join today to defend MAT?

@to both of the above: Feel free to throw all your shit towards me. It only shows that you are avoiding legitimate and reasonable questions which is making this SCAM more and more obvious!

That was a customer, not Spondoolies own datacenter.

The funny thing is, even though their entire farm burned down, they probably still took a smaller loss (percentage wise) than anyone who was ripped off by MAT.

yes this is a scam - this machine does't actually exist

I'm so glad- and now it I won't any electric bills since it does not use electric.

of course I won't get any more of these either...

35 litecoins from the block I found the other day...

https://i.imgur.com/OtN323t.gif

scam all the way - I agree!!!


https://www.linkedin.com/pub/hornblower-ventures/92/882/506?trk=pub-pbmap

Getting ripped off is normally not something to be proud of.

If you really hate money but love months of delays/lies/shady dealing, I agree MAT is a good option.

Please eat more shit! Delivering a couple of miners means nothing. As the above quote says they have ~45 units. Of course they will show a couple to try to fool more idiots into sending them money without any plans to deliver products.


SCAM ALERT!

1666 Spondoolies unit  :'(

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/brand-bij-cowboyminer-laat-netwerk-hashrate-zakken

I find out about MAT on google and was reading a lots on coin forum. Why should someone always have to joint a forum if there want to start in scrypt or some coin. Is that a must?? And i am not defending MAT there make a lots of mistakes but that doesnt mean there are bad. I am also waiting for my miner like ever body els!!
Why start a war? There is a say: you are innocent until proven guilty. Is there a lawsuit yet? Maybe it is a scam that is my problem, so dont call me a puppet dude you dont know me. Why hate the newbie? Because he is late at this game? That makes no sens....So i have to proof to someone i dont know i am real yeah right what kind of world are we living in....

I am just not a fan of Cloud Mining...

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/uploads/3/3/0/6/330647/4519405_orig.jpg

why would the facility not be insured?

If you have nothing else to say on topic please consider attacking these other ASIC suppliers:

Bitmain
ASICMiner
Bitfury

I'm sure that would provide even more credibility for MAT.

oh - I have plenty to say - but it's already been said in the threads that have beaten those companies to death - at least MAT is delivering machines!

Yes because every regular miner decides to jump on a forum to defend a random company. Yes that makes much sense. It's too obvious that you are lying.

SCAM ALERT!


To how many customers they have delivered so far? 3? Or 5?

Come on jjj0923 you cant really accuse Bitmain of not shipping.

I don't think these could be more identical if they tried



AlcheMiner 250M Scrypt Miner Demo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7KHmSiAbQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7KHmSiAbQ)


https://www.anonimg.com/img/8c778a24451341282b1dbc5ffc8ee4fd.jpg

just picked up my miner at MAt office so no scam for me bro like I SAY just a customer or am I still a puppet?

Post a pic of the miner and write your forum name and date on a card.