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Post by: BitcoinEXpress on February 25, 2014, 02:14:33 AM
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Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 02:16:48 AM
As was expected with 1GH having 70% of nethash, a fork has occurred.

Looks like we have one at chain 52465 and 11.8 THS and another 5 THs and block 52404.

I just had a wallet's coins vaporize on resync between the two LOL....

The other chain is why the hashrate has instantly dropped from 16 THS to 11 THS in less than 10 minutes.

I highly suspect that 1GH is on a different chain from all other pools.

Have fun as this is going to be hilarious to watch unfold and people's MAX just vaporize..


~BCX~

I won't lie...I've been rooting for that coin to fail since its joke of a launch.  

This won't kill it, but it'll still be fun to watch :P


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Post by: mayne on February 25, 2014, 02:54:52 AM
nope


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Post by: chinabreak123 on February 25, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
maxcoin?
just a joke


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Post by: pedrog on February 25, 2014, 02:58:44 AM
So, what happens to the exchanges?


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Post by: pedrog on February 25, 2014, 03:10:17 AM
So, what happens to the exchanges?


Depends on which fork they are on.

If the one you use is not on the 1GH fork, your coins will evaporate when the chains merge.

If you are smart, dump your MAX into BTC and sit on it or transfer to your own wallet.


~BCX~

Well, I have none, but if this precipitates a massive dump, maybe I should by some very cheap, but at the risk of buying non-existing coins.  :D


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Post by: greentea on February 25, 2014, 03:21:56 AM
explain to someone how looking at the blockchain you can tell if a coin has forked?


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Post by: coinerjoe on February 25, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
Hahaha fork you Max!!!


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Post by: flounderella on February 25, 2014, 04:54:40 AM
Maxcoin devs were so amateur. Do they even know what to do in a fork?


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Post by: fcode on February 25, 2014, 04:56:07 AM
If true 1gh should be considered the degenerate chain. They and the people that continue to mine there should suffer the consequences of their hubris.


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Post by: fcode on February 25, 2014, 05:01:05 AM
That's not how this works, biggest chain IS the official chain.

1GH for all effective purposes owns Maxcoin.

This chain is terminal unless the devs do something soon.

Oh I know how it works but that doesn't change what I think should happen. ;)


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Post by: reorder on February 25, 2014, 07:45:52 AM
That's not how this works, biggest chain IS the official chain.

1GH for all effective purposes owns Maxcoin.

This chain is terminal unless the devs do something soon.

Oh I know how it works but that doesn't change what I think should happen. ;)


Agreed.


~BCX~
So which services actually are on the wrong fork? Ot was it just your misconfigured wallet?


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Post by: Snail2 on February 25, 2014, 09:55:29 AM
This going to be interesting.


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Post by: qznc on February 25, 2014, 10:04:15 AM
Let's see if Maxcoin devs can provide more fail.  ;D


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Post by: mav3141 on February 25, 2014, 10:59:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/6M2nSUD.png

Looks like FUD, thanks bitcoinxpres


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Post by: thekekk on February 25, 2014, 11:58:27 AM
keep the FUD up like the 51% attack by the p2p pool with over 10 wallets

We love the way you lie


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Post by: xocel on February 25, 2014, 12:14:30 PM
I've seen no evidence of a fork. All services appear to be running the same blockchain. The block he says the fork happened can be seen below.

52464: http://maxchain.info/api/getblock?hash=00000000000009cead296eebba8f4b243a2d7d512440a9a6e7443de59ac2208c
52465: http://maxchain.info/api/getblock?hash=0000000000002e9d6dae2c809b9f00aa30e405d6caddd623f0c6f9f0a64fb35d
52466: http://maxchain.info/api/getblock?hash=000000000000beb0533254601cace24a17549bdfde2c60a207587eb87b0cc52c





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Post by: El Dude on February 25, 2014, 01:11:16 PM
what a horrible coin , dump this crap and get btc & ltc while it's on sale


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Post by: Del137 on February 25, 2014, 01:21:54 PM
Lol who bothers about it? Its was pumped scam from begining and unprofessional from its start till now....


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Post by: AzzX on February 25, 2014, 01:41:34 PM
Max appears to be the least scammy coin launched in recent times.  The pump at the beginning was due to people being unable to use the command line in order to generate currency.  The only option was to buy even though the self mining process was about as easy as you could get.


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Post by: frobley on February 25, 2014, 01:46:50 PM
Max appears to be the least scammy coin launched in recent times.  The pump at the beginning was due to people being unable to use the command line in order to generate currency.  The only option was to buy even though the self mining process was about as easy as you could get.

I hope you're joking


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Post by: AzzX on February 25, 2014, 01:51:08 PM

I hope you're joking

I self mined on release using a gtx670 and sold high due to demand - unless I am missing something obvious but the process was very simple.

Anyway is this Fork talk Real or just Fud?


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Post by: Snail2 on February 25, 2014, 01:56:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6M2nSUD.png

Looks like FUD, thanks bitcoinxpres

What you linked isn't a proof, just another rumors. We'll see soon if it's really forked.


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Post by: mav3141 on February 25, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
https://twitter.com/maxcoinproject

'MaxCoin ‏@maxcoinproject  10m
Don't listen to the FUD. MaxCoin is working! keep calm and carry on maxcoining.'



Can we end the FUD campaign now?

Would anyone like to apologize for spreading lies?

I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


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Post by: davidpbrown on February 25, 2014, 04:52:57 PM
So, what happens to the exchanges?
Depends on which fork they are on.

Interesting given what's happened at MtGox; I guess that would look the same to those who suffered an exchange following through on a fork like this.

Glad to see it's MaxCoin that's suffering this first. Sometimes you just have to watch others piss on the electric fence.  ;D


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Post by: reorder on February 25, 2014, 04:58:46 PM


I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


Yes it's called sleep moron. Some of us don't mine to support out crystal meth habit.


There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.


1GH is the issue and it will happen again at some point when they have more than 51% and another pool or entity starts gaining in hash rate.


~BCX~
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become. You know, not every time you fail to configure your own wallet properly it is a fork.


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Post by: SimkoMiner on February 25, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
Hi AKC team,

The original DEV started to develop it's own BTC/AKC exchange and posted some picture on Tweeter. Are you going to finish development on this or you will rely on having AKC listed on some existing exchanges? Here is the tweet: https://twitter.com/AntiKeiser/status/434129687711711232/photo/1. Was it some kind of OpenSource exchange system which AKC dev tried to adopt for AKC or was this development from scratch?

To all AKC followers:

have you voted today? I see the votes are increasing very slowly on Mintpal and AllCrypt. I noticed on pools cca 10 stable miners alltogether so on Mintpal we should be able to make at least cca 300 votes everyday (5 hours x 6 votes x 10 miners = 300) but total votes on sites are increasing much slower. I personally try to make at least 60 votes everyday on Mintpal.

Whoever of you already wasted couple of KiloWat mining few AKC milions, don't be lazy and go vote. Nobody else will ever make this coin valuable and exchangeable other than its community.

What is positive is that we are keeping ahead of MAX on both sites. I am clicking like insane whenever I have time...  ;D

Once again the links:
https://www.mintpal.com/voting
http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php



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Post by: mav3141 on February 25, 2014, 05:50:22 PM


I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


Yes it's called sleep moron. Some of us don't mine to support out crystal meth habit.


There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.


1GH is the issue and it will happen again at some point when they have more than 51% and another pool or entity starts gaining in hash rate.


~BCX~
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become. You know, not every time you fail to configure your own wallet properly it is a fork.

What a surprise that the bitcoinFUDexpress cannot admit to being wrong and instead resorts to name calling. An apology for the lies would have been nice but the FUD train just rolls on.


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Post by: yaboymarvo on February 25, 2014, 06:00:07 PM


I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


Yes it's called sleep moron. Some of us don't mine to support out crystal meth habit.


There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.


1GH is the issue and it will happen again at some point when they have more than 51% and another pool or entity starts gaining in hash rate.


~BCX~
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become. You know, not every time you fail to configure your own wallet properly it is a fork.

What a surprise that the bitcoinFUDexpress cannot admit to being wrong and instead resorts to name calling. An apology for the lies would have been nice but the FUD train just rolls on.
But everyone should worship him and his botnet farm. He is so cool that he can bring down new coins just because he can and to teach the coin dev a "lesson".


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Post by: Bluestreet on February 25, 2014, 06:24:02 PM
one day in many months from now everyone will be wondering why they didn't get into iCoin sooner BUT until that day comes keep on buying up these coins that have no hope of ever making into mainstream .


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Post by: lasciv on February 25, 2014, 06:31:42 PM

But everyone should worship him and his botnet farm. He is so cool that he can bring down new coins just because he can and to teach the coin dev a "lesson".

much puppet, so wow..


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Post by: reorder on February 25, 2014, 06:43:16 PM


I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


Yes it's called sleep moron. Some of us don't mine to support out crystal meth habit.


There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.


1GH is the issue and it will happen again at some point when they have more than 51% and another pool or entity starts gaining in hash rate.


~BCX~
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become. You know, not every time you fail to configure your own wallet properly it is a fork.

What a surprise that the bitcoinFUDexpress cannot admit to being wrong and instead resorts to name calling. An apology for the lies would have been nice but the FUD train just rolls on.
But everyone should worship him and his botnet farm. He is so cool that he can bring down new coins just because he can and to teach the coin dev a "lesson".



@Herp


How many sock puppets do you have?

You're shit was forked.

Even the great RS of mcxNOW seen it.

Maxcointicker and Rocket Pool certainly did go offline due to the fork.

1GH was DDoS'd for a short while to knock them back.

All of that said, glad you guys recovered.

If I wanted your chain dead, I can assure it would be dead.


~BCX~
Ah, so you admit you have commited crime doing DDoS activities?


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Post by: thekekk on February 25, 2014, 07:40:10 PM
is true Maxcoin forked the moon


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Post by: yaboymarvo on February 25, 2014, 07:41:54 PM


I notice the bitcoinFUDexpress has gone silent, what a surprise.


Yes it's called sleep moron. Some of us don't mine to support out crystal meth habit.


There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.


1GH is the issue and it will happen again at some point when they have more than 51% and another pool or entity starts gaining in hash rate.


~BCX~
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become. You know, not every time you fail to configure your own wallet properly it is a fork.

What a surprise that the bitcoinFUDexpress cannot admit to being wrong and instead resorts to name calling. An apology for the lies would have been nice but the FUD train just rolls on.
But everyone should worship him and his botnet farm. He is so cool that he can bring down new coins just because he can and to teach the coin dev a "lesson".



@Herp


How many sock puppets do you have?

You're shit was forked.

Even the great RS of mcxNOW seen it.

Maxcointicker and Rocket Pool certainly did go offline due to the fork.

1GH was DDoS'd for a short while to knock them back.

All of that said, glad you guys recovered.

If I wanted your chain dead, I can assure it would be dead.


~BCX~
Ah, so you admit you have commited crime doing DDoS activities?
He killed or tried to kill gamecoin just to prove a point. BTW i do not hold or even mine maxcoin,but i have seen you troll other threads bitcoinxpress claiming that you have a huge farm(botnet more than likely) and you can fork any new coin you want to.


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Post by: cudjex on February 25, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
I wish it was forked.


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Post by: broken_pixel on February 26, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
This is funny shit. . . . . . .

http://www.change.org/petitions/bitcoinexpress-have-him-arrested


Reached 10 signatures, LULZ!


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Post by: reorder on February 26, 2014, 11:06:03 AM
This is funny shit. . . . . . .

http://www.change.org/petitions/bitcoinexpress-have-him-arrested


Reached 10 signatures, LULZ!
Filing a case IRL seems to be more effective.


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Post by: subSTRATA on February 26, 2014, 10:22:42 PM
Guys, do not bother with FUD by BitcoinEXpress. He is old member of this forum and he perfectly knows how cryptocoins work which means he
knows stuff he posted here is not all true. There can not be hard-fork if nodes on network use the same version! What happened (again) is 1GH
pool, people who were behind 51% attack on Bter, attempted and successfuly completed another 51% attack but this time revealing the origin
of it e.g. made it obvious it is they who are doing shits. Basically, what happened is large blockchain reorganization. At some point 1GH stopped
mining on legit blockchain, went off the network and used combined hashpower of miners (yes, you retards still mining there) to create second
version of blockchain which, due to them having way over 51% of total hashpower, became longer than legit blockchain (more work done). In the
meantime they made some transactions on legit blockchain, most likely sent MAX to exchanges to dump them, and once they dumped those coins
they withdrew BTC from exchanges and connected back to network. Since their node has version of blockchain longer (more work done) than all
other nodes, 1GH's version of blockchain started propagating through Maxcoin network, overwritting blocks and thus transactions that happened
on legit blockchain since 1GH went off network (that means transaction which moved 1GH's coins to exchange never happened and that means
exchange lost BTC). Due to size of new version of blockchain (in megabytes) and generaly very bussy MAX network (30 seconds blocktime is still
an overkill), what happened is that slower nodes switched to 1GH's version of blockchain with very noticable delay. Not everyone use super fast
Internet connection so 1GH's version of blockchain could not propagate to all nodes in a second! To put things for you into perspective, on Bitcoin
network which uses 10 minutes block time (much less traffic than with Maxcoin) it is observed that it can take up to 40 seconds for data to reach
all nodes. Now imagine Maxcoin where network activity is high by default due to 30 seconds block time then add megabytes more in an instant! Of
course, some nodes will almost halt, especially nodes run on slow computers. But after a while all nodes will have the same version of blockchain,
in this case 1GH's version. To sum it up, what happened is perfectly normal considering that Maxcoin uses 30 seconds block time. There is no need
for dev to add checkpoints. What is needed is that idiots still mining at 1GH move to some other pools.

TLDR - BitcoinEXpress wants to negatively affect MAX price or he is pissed off cause blocks he mined ended up orphaned by blocks mined by 1GH.

There were two forks and 1GH was aware of it. 1GH was DDoS'd for a while till they pulled back below 50% for a while to allow the chain to merge. The Maxcointicker and Rocketpool both went off line for about two hours.
Bullshit, you cannot merge the chain back in time. Besides, none of the pools shows the chain of orphans that a 'wrong' fork would become.

It is not called merging but overwritting. Unless there are checkpoints added at certain block heights, attacker can overwrite all blocks down to but
excluding genesis block. In other words, if there are no checkpoints, genesis block is the only block hard-coded in wallet and thus permanent for
that version of wallet. All other blocks can be overwritten and that is the reason why any decent cryptocoin dev occassionaly adds checkpoints. As
for the no orphans shown at other pools, since 1 GH has massive hashrate once they went off network other pools mined not so many blocks. Some
pools mined maybe a block or two. If those blocks are later labeled as orphans no one would notice something very unusual. Given that orphans are
not so uncommon with 30 second block times, you would not notice a long serie of orphans (long reorg) anywhere except in wallet's debug.log file.

This is funny shit. . . . . . .

http://www.change.org/petitions/bitcoinexpress-have-him-arrested

"He's currently DDoS'ing pools! And likes to impersonate Asian women!" by Simran

"I call for death penalty" by Satoshi

:D :D :D


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Post by: broken_pixel on February 27, 2014, 04:09:10 AM
I thought you would get a kick out that.  :P


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Post by: subSTRATA on February 28, 2014, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: subSTRATA

Guys, do not bother with FUD by BitcoinEXpress. He is old member of this forum and he perfectly knows how cryptocoins work which means he
knows stuff he posted here about MAX are bullshit. There can not be hard-fork if nodes on network use the same version! ...

Is it possible you could be any more wrong?

Ohh, so you actualy do not know how cryptocoins work, cool.


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Post by: rojuwah on March 04, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
guys any news about resolving the fork issue? where do u guys track the sizes of different maxchains BTW?