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Hi All,

One of my friends just asked me to research VisaCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097), as they were scammed out of a large amount of BTC. Here's what I've found:

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Obviously use due care and diligence when checking things out and starting proceedings, double check my work, especially personal links

Good work!

This guy deserves to be castrated for his sins...never expected him to live in australia

This guy has a problem now  ;D

 ;D

wow thats awesome. Really hope someone will get this guy now.

the address is probably correct, because on his facebook it says hes living in australia!

that's awesome! great work!

Nice, man...

Well done :) thanks

strange first post, but you're welcome.

Thank you very much InsanityDev.

Thanks Insanity  ;D

he's fucked

Anyone living near him?

 :o

Dear All,


I am no where related to VisaCoin. I have no where represented visa coin. I'm a respected person. Please dont think I'll scam people with my real name. I have job and family here. I'm also like you who tricked to register this website. I registered this website in return for foundation share and haven't received none. I have email proofs with the visa coin scammer.


He scammed me also. I have email proofs and I'm also searching for him please let me know when you get him.

Hi all,

He scammed me as well like you. I am a developer, and instead of foundation share, I asked him to consider me for if I do any development. I'm new to cryptos and came to know about cryptos last month only. Do you think I'll scam people by registering website on my servers? Do I look like idiot. I'm happy to meet anyone who is interested here. Get the scammer first and I'll be the first person to take legal action on him. Registering a website doesn't mean a scammer.

I never represented for him and so you dont have any right to ask me. I'm a contract developer and never received any payment from him. I'm a community person and thought visacoin will be next big project like you people, .

Raj,

I am removing your personal details temporarily whilst you address this with the community.

Hopefully the moderators will check your IP Addresses are different, at this time it does not look good that you both joined and disappeared at the same time. That your written english is the same, that you didn't respond earlier when VSC disappeared, and of course that every detail points to you, apart from you coming back and saying "not me".

You registered the domain privately assuming it would not be traceable backwards. You disappeared at the same time. If you "believed in" visacoin why is it not in your post history at all?

You're going to have to work hard to convince people, or just admit and do the right thing you could return the BTC and disappear, I'm sure people would leave it there.

Best

bring out the forks! and..you know

Visacoin lives in Chinese timezone

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201824;sa=statPanel

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=178544;sa=statPanel

they are both virtually the same, and you'll notice he's spent most of his time in scam accusations, nothing he says adds up.. believed in visacoin but didn't ever mention it? didn't come back to say he was scammed also? (if he believed in visacoin, he knew about it, and if his story was true, he'd have been straight here..), disappeared at the same time?

come on..

preface: last year I was scammed out of 200 BTC myself, one of my close friends was scammed a lot also, again he was scammed by "visacoin" .. this one is not being dropped, we have lost too much as a community.

I lost interest in bitcoin once I lost lot of money around 2000 dollars. So I never checked in whats going with visacoin, I got offer for Private registration from domain register for free,so I opted for it. I gone for dogecoin. If I scam people, why the domain was not deregistered , I lost interest because of that scam Its a big lesson to me. I'm not that crypto technical to scam people. I dont have any thing to convince people as I'm also a victim. Please believe me. I'm no scammer and nothing related to visacoin.

screenshot please not a copy of conversations , your post seems a lot like vsc, i exchange a lot of messages with him before he ran away.

Please see attached screenshot

Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required

here he considered me for foundation share

Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required

I'm active on dogecoin , you can see , I bought around 100000 devcoin , 50 mega coin, 100 altcoins and lost value. So I'm fed up with these coins and went to dogecoin, never interested in any coins.

and the rest.. the more info you can show the quicker we can catch him...

also, can we ask the mods to confirm you are different users with different ip addresses (raj+visacoin)

Return the BTC and no harm will come to you Raj, otherwise face the consequences.

I told you I'm no where related visa coin, Why you are asking me to return I have never represented him.  I'm just like u who tricked into scam,. I'm also searching for him.

tk808, this can be done more carefully.

Raj, there are easy ways to prove it is not you (at the minute it does not look good).

1) We'll ask the moderators to confirm your ip address on your account has not been the same as user visacoin
2) You can provide /more/ information, screenshots of all of those emails, how you found visacoin, or how he found you.. every bit of info you have
3) You can provide or let somebody access your hosting account temporarily to extract all log files from transfers and apache logs, as obviously they'll contain info on the culprit.

THanks for believing me


I heard about visacoin on bitcoin forums only , initially thought of giving some btc to foundation. Also thought of other coin foundations. I bought 2 btc to pay for visacoin. but at the last minute, I bought other some alt coins so not much money left to be part of visacoin. Same day contacted vsccoin instead of btc, is it possible to assist in development.

I have proofs made two orders on btrade on Jan 3 and same day I contacted visacoin regarding my share.

Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required

Mods, please send me a private message, I'll give access to servers. So you can trace him.


 

rajbandi, how often do you visit this forum? It looks like your post shows 4 hrs after the thread was created. I think we need to ask the mod to monitor your forum activity and it will be really suspicious if you posted such a fast responce in this thread after a long break.

I got emails regarding scam, to return, in one of the email there is a link to this forum. I want to prove my self so thats y responding in forums, I'm late to office now although I'm responding


My other gmail screenshot for anyone wants to have a look
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Here is my other gmail screenshot

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I think we just need the mods to confirm your account and visacoin account have not shared an ip address at any time, if one of them can do that.

Pouvez-vous parler français?

Please mods, help me, please provide ip addresses . I can give my servers access for u. I'm unnecessarly dragged into this. A lesson is learned. I can give other proofs where I spent my 2 btc in what altcoins, and I sold all my altcoins bought doge at when 30 satohso around 4 million and lost interest in all other alt coins because of frequent scams and active in dogecoin.

I have done a taint analysis on the bitcoins you ordered, they are not linked in any way to the btc pot for visa coin.

I'm very tempted to believe you here Raj.

Please help the community out here and grab all log files from visacoin.info in to a zip for us to analyse, the odds are the scammers ip address will be in there, and traceable somehow online (didn't take long to find you!)

Best, and of course apologies for any stress involved.

Thanks for believing. I'll upload log files within 2 hours, and I want to get that ba***rd who tricked me this. I'll also analyse log files this week.

care to share the admin password, or the email password you have created for him?

Please provide all you can to catch him.

I sent password in ur pm

I accessed my server logs unfortunately it cant store more than 5 days of log files and maintained by hosting provider not me. I have contacted hosting provider to get 1 month back log files, but its not possible .

Please find log files
Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required , Log files will expose other member ip addresses
Also, I have dropped email message headers from that f*cker if anyone interested.

Server log files
Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required


I have dropped nameservers from this domain.


Some asked Why I registered as private registration. Its not very hard to know any private registration, This domain cost me $2 and private registration is free as part of some promotion.  I missed NXT shares initially. I was interested not only in VisaCoin also other crowdfunding coins. I bought 2 btc, thought to provide 0.5 btc to visacoin and remaining to other coins. Tempted and Ended up in buying some altcoins like datacoin(at $1, price dropped to 0.5 within weeks), bought some alt coins on ebay initially at higher price and came to know about these forums and exchanges. At last before bobsled event, I bought dogecoins as my lost hope and converted all my alt coins and btc around 0.5  to dogecoins.

here is the invoice

Hidden due to privacy concerns, will provide to anyone in PM box if required

I'm active on reddit not much active on bitcoinforums after buying dogecoins,

There's nothing in there which can be identifiable.

1) Did "visacoin" upload anything to the domain?
2) If not, do you have the logs from the first day? It stands to reason that the first person who was not you to see the domain was "visacoin", thus their ip will be the first not-you ip in the logs from the 3rd/4th january.

The logs from a month after the scam, email headers form gmail which shows no ip, really do not help. All you have showed here is continued evidence of you buying, creating, and providing everything to do with visacoin.

If you don't have the time or info to collect this information, feel free to send me the admin details for that hosting, I'll be quick and discreet and get the info if it's there (I've hosted websites for 15 years on a variety of boxes)

Sincerely trying to help you and the community here, need something more to go on.

I sent you hosting account details PM

1) Did "visacoin" upload anything to the domain?
No I never given admin passwords to him, Just like he will provide the content of website and I will upload.

2) If not, do you have the logs from the first day? It stands to reason that the first person who was not you to see the domain was "visacoin", thus their ip will be the first not-you ip in the logs from the 3rd/4th january.

I have contacted hosting provider, they said its not possible. By default when u create a domain visitor stats are disabled.

I have provided you hosting details, can you please request them.

Before coming to conclusion, please think twice. I never represented visacoin and I never asked anyone for their btc. Never vouched for him. Anyone create a website for a small pay it doesn't mean he is one of the scammers. I'm putting my hard earned money to coins. I lost touch with this forum because of my work and alternative interests on reddit. If I knew something is like that happening, I'm the first person to chase him. I lost money in this and fed up alt coins.

I'll request mods

1) To provide that f**cker IP address and My ip address
2) When was my last date/time visited scam accusations, I lost touch with forums.
3) When was my last date/time visited alternative currencies and what links I have clicked,
4) When was the last time he replied to this forum, and when was the last time I visited visacoin page. I event dont know when he stopped taking foundation shares. Before that only I lost touch with with altcoin and spent on dogecoin.  I'm in this forum before visacoin(I think in november, december), check my posts, I was chasing every alt coin new or old.
5) To check my history in alternative currencies, how many times I visited same thread and how many times different threads.

Why the website was running until today, If I knew it was scammed, I would have taken that down. Really I didn't it was scammed and will know only when I visited these forums.

I am ready to meet any one personally and provide everything you ask even my bank accounts for. Many scammers uses professionals services.

there no financial transactions happened through my website and I'm not responsible for that.

I'll give my reddit username, ask reddit moderators about my visits, daily 100 times I click links in dogecoin subreddit. Really I'm stressed and feel bad, because of some scammers I'm taking this sh*t. I never scammed anyone in my life and dont believe in easy money. If I scammed you Why I'm still working.

Okay, I've checked everything I possible. There is no conclusive anything, no logs, no anything.

The only one thing is this:

https://i.imgur.com/zYWPyJ5.jpg

The folder test was created at 02:48:29 2/26/2014 UTC, which sets the timezone as -08:00, USA.

Australia is UTC+8, which means that the files were uploaded around 12:20-12:35 on the 3rd January, which ties in with what raj has said, and the emails.

It is my opinion that Raj is telling the truth, and we have no way of telling who our scammer is :(

Thank you Raj for your time and patience. Please let the community know how much you are also owed, and we'll find a way to reimburse you, or ideally get funds from the scammer, should we find him.

Thank you. If anyone is interested, I'll meet anyone in person. I'll provide all the proofs anything you ask for.  I want to get that f**cker. Please let me know when you get him.

Being an outsider, I observed 1 interesting thing. I scanned through the previous posts of Raj in Bitcointalk covering the VISACOIN IPO scam period. Interestingly, I could not find even one single post related to VISACOIN IPO. I started to ask where and how Raj got in touch with Visacoin? There is strong evidence that Raj had been working with Visacoin in this IPO scam. The major question is whether this VISACOIN IPO scam has been done by 1 single person or a gang of scammers. Could Raj be one of their key members? or Could Raj be one of the victims? Everybody here can make his/her own judgement.  >:(

I started to ask where and how Raj got in touch with Visacoin?

Alternative currencies forum will list most active thread on the top (last updated). I haven't searched for visacoin.  Before visacoin I was active in forums chasing giveaways. everytime checking alternative currencies forum top posts and jumping on mining with pc to grab some coins when difficulty was lower.  


There is strong evidence that Raj had been working with Visacoin in this IPO scam.

Please place your arguments here. Did I ask any one personally in the forum? or Did I vouch that scammer to believe him? Did we share same IP address? By imagining things it won't work

 Could Raj be one of their key members?

Its funny how you were imagining me. I'm new to this crytocoins and came to know only in end of november after a bit coin article. Initially I purchased alt coins on ebay at premium price as I'm not aware of exchanges and this forum also. I can send those receipts to you.

I'm open to any legal investigation by anyone,and I'm no where related to that scammer. He has to pay me too.

I understand your feelings and you should understand mine.

I have just examined the screenshots of Raj's email box. It is really strange that the email history was truncated between 3 Jan 2014 and today... Could the emails be fake? Created by photoshop? Unfortunately, the pic quality is too poor for intensive pixel color analysis. Again, everybody here can make his/her own judgement.  >:(

Ok Believe or not,

I got it what u r saying, I searched my email box as visacoin. So it was showing all the emails with word visacoin. See an email sent by other member Pinarello today and confirm with him.

Why dont you come to goto meeting, or use team viewer. You can personally view my emails. They are all personal accounts, and I dont want you all to read other personal emails which were not related to visacoin.

Willyou agree? Come with any screen sharing program, I'll show you my emails live. Imaging things it wont work.

Send me PM with screen sharing program or I'll happy to send to you.

Ok here the proof, in the above images, can you see a text box above menu left side top, see what the word typed? Be intelligent.

Thanks for clarifying that you have used a search function. Please accept my apology for making this mistake. However, you have also given me a hint that all the emails shown are related to this VISACOIN event.

Having a detective mind, I can't stop examining the pics again. I found that there were two emails captioned "Meetup" that was sent to you by Pinarrello at 4:15AM and 4:32AM today. Seem like your friend Pinarrello is calling for a meeting up in relation to the "discovery" of the identity of the VISACOIN scammer.  ???

Is Pinarrelo also a member of the VISACOIN IPO team? Again everybody can make his/her own judgement.

By the way, the use of a search function does not provide a piece of direct evidence that the emails on 3 Jan 2014 are real. Furthermore, even the emails are real. Does it provide a direct evidence to disprove the possibility that VISACOIN IPO is a well planned scam with good implementation of traces to prove the people of team are also victims in case the identities of the people involved are being discovered.

Ok imagine whate ever you like. I can also imagine you in IPO scam. Never ends. See the scammer is intelligent.

1) When the first visacoin page published.
2) When was the time I created this email. When I was creating this website I can see 100+ foundation shares already submitted. If I'm part of the scam How can I create website after 50+ foundation shares? Apply the logic. I think you can see in the above email, I'm asking him foundation share in 1-50 or 50-200.

I dont know about pinarrelo, you can see he is full member. He contacted me for the first time and today only. He contact me through my blog contact page, and meetup member contact page.  Its not like we were meeting :). Any one can send a message. I can send you that email if you want.

This is weird... As you have used the search function with the term "visacoin", the email from Pinarrelo should not be shown up if there is nothing related to Visacoin.  ???
Last but not least, Pinarello sent you an email 7 minutes (4:15 AM) after InsanityDev had started this VISACOIN Identity thread (4:08 AM). What a coincident!  

I told you I'm happy to show you my emails live if you have screen sharing program, it will clear all your doubts. I dont know about those timings better ask them.


Either hotmail search is dumber or ?

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see the image now?

Thanks for providing us more evidence.. Thanks for clarifying Pinarello is NOT related to this VISACOIN SCAM.

Unfortunately, this is just pulling you down into the black hole even deeper. First of all, why didn't you admit earlier that Pinarello was talking to you about proof of "visacoin".  

You have deleted most part of the email. From the rest of the visible words "people with your visacoin debacle I have proof.", it appears that Pinarello has some sort of evidence, which is either supporting you are Visacoin or supporting you are NOT.  >:(
Everybody please make your own judgement!

See I dont know anyone, Do imagine what ever you like. Why don't ask him directly about the proof., Why you r discussing with me.  I think he is refererring to initial website identity.  See I told you already it contains some unrelated information, I'll post PM to you with clear image.  

believe or not I dont care. Meet me on skype and will share screen share, ask your questions there,

 ??? I sent u pm

what proof about ask him

I dont care dont discuss with me. Discussing with that member, and then come to me. EIther you are dumber to understand what I'm saying or something else I dont care.

I am a responsible member. Therefore, I am willing to share any information that I have received from Raj. I have just got a PM from Raj with clear pictures of the two emails from Pinarello. Because of privacy, I won't disclose the details.

The emails are not related to anything about meeting up in relation to VISACOIN scam. Please accept my deep apology for wrong deduction from the minimal amount of evidence.

I would be interested to know..... What are the other proof that Pinarello has. Pinarello may wish to provide additional evidence to the Bitcointalk community.  

Post that with email headers enabled. That will be more convincing. Too many scam IPOs have involved forged imagery.

I have already posted headers with log files. If u want screen shot of those I LL do in short time as in travelling

Quickly cleared up by posting the emails with email headers. Much harder to forge.

Sorry but this just doesn't add up to me. You don't close an investigation in a day. Further investigation is needed,

All,

I went in to great technical depth to find Raj in the first instance. After finding him and being very sceptical at first, I've consulted all information provided, I've even had unattended access to his full server which houses his own websites and visacoin.info.

I am 99.9% sure that Raj is not the scammer, there is a small 0.1% chance he is, but judging by his transparency I'm quite sure that he is just another victim in all of this, and deserves to be treated as one. He's had a tough 24 hours, and there is nothing which points to what he is saying as being false. Are we suggesting that before purporting any scam he had a full email conversion with himself? that he didn't use any of his own bitcoin in the scam? that ..

Sadly though, that is as far as we can go down technical paths to do with the domain / website / hosting to try and track the scammer, the only people who have any chance of helping us are the bitcointalk mods.

OK Raj I now believe you are not the scammer.

The quest to find the real scammer continues.

If you are not a scammer, then I apologize for my earlier comment about you deserving to be castrated (I don't know what to believe so I will still put you as a possibility as a scammer). But I will rephrase that.

The scammer deserves to be castrated for his sins he committed against the crypto community.

Yess I agree scammer deserves that , Im the first person to do that. Some people like me had invested hard earned salary in cryptos without investing on family. I know how that feels working hard to earn money and losing in a second.

This guy deserves to be castrated for his sins



(I don't know what to believe so I will still put you as a possibility as a scammer).


Explicitly you are referring me. So thats y I advised you to think twice before saying anything.

I dont know what to say, its your imagination, you have right to imagine but imagination may not be true always.

Bitcoin mods please I request you to provide ipaddresses and history of my username and visacoin here.  still some people dont believe what I'm saying. After that everyone can say anything but without evidence you can't blame anyone and legally not correct.

With Website evidence if you are pointing to me,
1) no financial transactions with you all happened on my website, so I'm not responsible for that.
2) Never advised you to believe him,
3) Never taken payments on his behalf

The only part on the website displayed is a logo and coming soon text. I provide website maintenance services and any scammer can use godaddy service, its not like godaddy is also part of scam.

I have provided all information regarding that website for investigation , answered patiently and quickly for all your queries, doubts, detective manners and more than that I can't do nothing.

Clearly you can see I was asking for foundation share in return of website maintenance and he promised that too.  I invested as a service so I'm equally invested like you people. When he promised me for foundation share, what is the purpose of investing btc there( I used them for other altcoins).
 
Some people were saying  I haven't advised its a scam, If I knew anything like that definitively I could advised you and you would do the same, he tricked all of us. I have no idea like you this much of scam he will do with all of us. Again cryptos are risk business. You are all grownup's and have ability to think positives and negatives.

I had enough here, Do whatever it takes I'm open to any investigation. I can't take it anymore. I want to end this asap.

Can we sue that person by email address. Legally by court order google, ISP's, and other companies involved  has to provide everything with regards to that email address. Its address book, conversations, logged ips,  etc.

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be careful

Raj is helping me, providing as much information as he can. He is certainly doing more than any of the people who were scammed to be honest.

I am moving to compile information from multiple scams together, because I am quite sure there are one or two people behind most of them, they will have slipped up somewhere.

This is a community of technical excellence, with members in many fields and at many services who these scammers must be using. Hopefully we will find them, but you, the scammed, also need to get information too.. maybe you have an alternative name or contact email for a scammer, an ip address somewhere, maybe you got them to look at a link on your server, etc. Think hard.

I downloaded a copy of the so-called visacoin whitepaper before it was taken down. It's absolute gibberish, but if it's of any use I can host it somewhere.

please do!

Insanitydev I sent some info to PM box, please see

ALL,


He must have used some professional services to prepare logos. Can we shed some light on this person please. The logos can only be prepared by photoshop expert.

Can you please provide those mail headers, and all the emails to insanity dev?

public please, so everybody can check. I am a neutral party trying to help, and others may spot something I miss.

Can you explain clearly what should be careful. I noticed you have registered today only.  Just wondering how come you are able to reply to this thread. I think for any new user, it requires to post some replies in beginner help forums.

Why dont you explain urself, how visacoin scammed you? Never heard of u. Its weird username, So I think you created ur username after my recent post only. Does this mean I'm making a show here. It hurts when you make allegations on others without verifying facts. Use ur energy and time on finding the real scammer not these useless usernames and posts if really do care.

White Paper Of VisaCoin. (http://www.filedropper.com/whitepaperofvsc)

I'm not 100% certain if that is the final revision he posted, but I believe it was.

Very interesting

Good, waiting for it.