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Title: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 11, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
I've been presented with evidence that Centra founders - or at least the developers behind it - have started another ICO that bears certain similarities with CTR and may or may not be a scam. The OP has requested that I present their evidence here and is willing to supply screenshots if necessary to back up their claim. Below is their original post

Hey everyone,

just sharing/warning people to stay clear of phantom.org as it will only make you lose money and time. I'd hate to see another group of people get tricked and over time get screwed hard.

Website: https://alpha.phantom.org/ (https://alpha.phantom.org/)
subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/)
Telegram: https://t.me/PhantomCore (https://t.me/PhantomCore)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomDotOrg


Background history:

Read:
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/ (https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/)
https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/ (https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/)

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THE CENTRA TECH FRAUD
Sorhab Sharma, Raymond Trapani, and Robert Farkas, the three co-founders of Centra Tech allegedly tried to defraud investors via a token sale. They were all arrested in April 2018 and charged with the same crimes. Commenting on the indictment, Deputy U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Robert Khuzami said that:

So why is this a scam?

Technically it isn't just yet. However you do the math. If founders of an ico that has been built on false statements and deception ran by people who had no prior blockchain exp and were basically just trying stuff out and not really knowing what they were doing was legal or better yet knew they were breaking rules but thought it was worth it... I wouldn't trust these guys to be able to make anything durable.

Can I read their side of the events?

Yea prior to launching this new venture of them they created this medium blog post sharing their side of the events: Dear Centra Community — Let the Truth be known (http://"https://medium.com/@Centra/dear-centra-community-let-the-truth-be-known-5241777b51d1")

Clearly it has been well formulated and from reading it you almost feel sorry for them. :p Words can be powerful tool.

So why you so certain?

The first ico I worked for was centra as a volunteer. I was not informed nor had I access to what the founders were up to or if what they shared of info was true or false. I was just "a guy" learning ico's and trying to do my job and gain exp. However I wasn't blind either. Without knowing for sure i did feel that the founders were a bit shady in their actions, communiction towards us mods and in how they conducted themselves in private in the mod room. I had no real proof to be fully convinced so I just did my job, quit and moved to the next ico project. Months later centra got hit with a SEC investigation and stuff went ballistic and I knew at that point all my suspicions were not wrong.

On top of that they are already lying to the people right now and deleting/censoring like they did on Centra.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/comments/951j9u/yes_phantom_is_launching_soon_ask_me_anything/
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Hi Markerone,

The team members are mainly the developers of the project from Centra and new developers, we are working to make a public announcement of whose going to be involved this week as the Foundation is not going to have a specific owner just board members since this is an open-source project.

We are contacting exchanges and in the process to figure out how to get the credits done appropriately.

Thank you.


Sam Sharma and Robert Farkas and most likely other founding members are actually involved on this and are (the real owners). The idea that a spin off group (the devs are owners aka board members) not controlled or in the pocket off the centra founders is 10%. Just ridiculous.

You could twist this into them being victims in this story of the us government; but if they did their jobs and token sale right then they wouldn't have had any issue that put them, investors  and centra into ruin.

Phantom Transparency Report

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Every week we plan to post our Phantom Transparency Report to go over the details of development and other updates we want to share with our community

The idea that they are really transparent and being honest to their supposed community is such a big joke. If they were really transparent they would not lie to their members or delete and censor like unprofessional mad people.

Follow the rest of the saga from the OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248839.0


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Scam?
Post by: swissgang on August 11, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Scam?
Post by: Pancheng on August 11, 2018, 07:05:16 PM
If a person was accused as scammed he or she should clear his or her name first that their project was like this and like that before they will be involve in a new one, this project of them is surely just to scam and try to gather money...


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Scam?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 11, 2018, 07:20:28 PM
Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.
This is in violation of several laws already. You can't be indicted for one crime and go off starting another operation that looks like the crime you're being indicted for - even if you have to pay legal fees...
That reminds me, which celebrity would they be getting on board now?


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: jeffthebaker on August 11, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
The saddest part about this is some loyal followers that never dumped their Centra scamtokens are going to support this to try to salvage their original investment. Pitiful all the way around.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: auroboros on August 11, 2018, 11:31:37 PM
I better look for another, because there are many other projects for investment, because as we all know, Centra is a scam project. and all those involved in it will be difficult to launch new projects because of their previous history. so is better to stay away


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Ultra777 on August 12, 2018, 06:58:41 AM
The more info and questions about possible scam project - the better! Please spread the word across the forums! I hate how Centra scammed all supporters and investors...


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 12, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
I better look for another, because there are many other projects for investment, because as we all know, Centra is a scam project. and all those involved in it will be difficult to launch new projects because of their previous history. so is better to stay away

What I find more galling is the fact that they are trying to raise another fund for something similar. They have to do right by the community - especially if their intention is honorable.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: coyote50 on August 12, 2018, 03:07:30 PM
Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Iyeman on August 12, 2018, 03:39:57 PM
Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it
It's an obvious scam and you can see the evidence through SEC report about centra was being alleged as a scam project. The CEO of centra has already arrested by US security and phantom just another scam project of centra scammer developers. I heard these scammers have been banning so many people from their telegram group.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: sorrros on August 13, 2018, 04:15:30 PM
It is more than obvious that it is a scam! They have spent all their stolen money already?
And on advisor board is again Floyd Mayweather? Biig fail.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: masterkiller on August 14, 2018, 12:29:54 PM
Centra already has a bad reputation for all crypto investors, even though they really want to make a particular project, it will be very difficult to build trust that was once damaged. I myself will choose to stay away from their project.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on August 14, 2018, 12:54:44 PM
Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it
It's an obvious scam and you can see the evidence through SEC report about centra was being alleged as a scam project. The CEO of centra has already arrested by US security and phantom just another scam project of centra scammer developers. I heard these scammers have been banning so many people from their telegram group.

I hope people will not be fooled for the second time. Even if they now have good intentions, which I do not believe, the crypto community should show that there is no place for cheaters. The best solution is not to get involved in this project.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: wongdeso on August 14, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
Centra already has a bad reputation for all crypto investors, even though they really want to make a particular project, it will be very difficult to build trust that was once damaged. I myself will choose to stay away from their project.

They need time to get that trust. It may not be a place for him in the hearts of investors, but if their goal is a novice investor, it may be easier to pursue.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Maks.fadeev1978 on August 14, 2018, 03:02:55 PM
I've heard about centra and I really thought that everyone knows that this is a scam and their founders are going to jail but I really surprised when I saw your topic.
Maybe if you're have such evidence you should post thread on scam accusation? That more people will know about their new "ICO".


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: milewilda on August 14, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
Good innovation but still the same concept like CENTRA which is a card and now they added up other things to make it more appealing but only fool people would fall twice for these obvious scams.

Phantom Core
Launch a full node right from your desktop

Phantom Smart Card
Decentralized NFC Payment Card

Phantom Merchant Unit
Start accepting cryptocurrencies at your business today.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 15, 2018, 09:41:21 PM
Good innovation but still the same concept like CENTRA which is a card and now they added up other things to make it more appealing but only fool people would fall twice for these obvious scams.

Phantom Core
Launch a full node right from your desktop

Phantom Smart Card
Decentralized NFC Payment Card

Phantom Merchant Unit
Start accepting cryptocurrencies at your business today.


It's amazing that all they just bothered to do was to reskin Centra and try to pass off the framework as another product. Hopefully, the SEC is gonna pick up on this too


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Luigi21 on August 15, 2018, 10:00:24 PM
I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: RoooooR on August 16, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Holy cow!, i guess it's really sketchy but i'll be trying to find out if this one's true. well if this team is from centra team i'll be staying away from it for sure. It will be a sure scam for sure. Thank you in advance for the good info if this one's legit hope there will be no incoming investment for this so no one will be scammed again.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: mehrdadb3 on August 16, 2018, 04:48:09 PM
Why centra team if they are free wont bring back the money of the investors? ???


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: knuckey on August 16, 2018, 05:03:20 PM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: ssmith3160 on August 16, 2018, 06:14:06 PM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

They have people who didn't sell in time, so that immediately gives them an audience who will maybe try to support it in hopes of recouping their investment. People overseas not familiar with it can be BS'd into it.  No one in the USA would likely put anything into this as a simple Google search will blow away all credibility, but people overseas aren't likely to search for or find American headlines and crypto is a global game.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: landslide on August 16, 2018, 06:26:23 PM
No ICO is attractive in this market conditions. I think it's much more risky at this time that a plug is much more important.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: tycsols on August 16, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
That sucks, if any of the fraudsters are coming up with a new project then this is really a disappointing thing for crypto community, such culprits should be brought to justice and put behind the bars, new projects mean that they are free to scam more people, i hope no one will get trapped again.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Pali on August 16, 2018, 09:41:26 PM
Centra can't return the money to investors as the SEC confiscated it and is now in control of the funds. That is publicly available in court documents. Secondly, speaking of scammers, lets take a look at the trust level of the person who first started this, Pali. It says a lot about what he has done to people and projects in the past. So you may want to consider where you get your information from.  Be careful as he works for another other project, Bitmillex. You definitely don't want to be involved with any projects who are supported by known scammers.

- SpaceMan
2016-05-01
0.40399960

I helped him play on bustabit by paying his bits in return for him to pay me through his bank the amount I paid but never got any payments. He's a total lying cunt and all lies and fake scum.
TripScripts
2016-11-04
0.00000000

Do not trust. Is a user with a huge amount of alts used for the sole purposes of evading and restarting his name to loan from others and scam others.

https://maidbot.finlaydag33k.nl/index.php?username=lsd
Yelpdood
2017-11-08
0.01200000
Reference
DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. He's a scammer. Scammed me out of 1.25 LTC.
RaidBossOath
2017-12-23
0.00000000

scammer, stole 3500 usd from the made2burst project.
Nerobasta
2018-05-24
0.00000000

Possible alt of Cazkys user who's been scamming. See the merit amount received (50) on a shit post. Its just too easy. Idiot.
baba0000000000
2018-06-20
0.00000000

Abuses feedback system and gave me a fake feedback that is not valid.

How exactly does the above proof I'm a scammer?  That's feedback I SEND to people who scammed me.

https://i.gyazo.com/15afd85ea43490874f2194988e84e343.png

New account just joined today like

I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

You are a fake account trying to discredit me. Good luck though. You won't find shit. 


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 16, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Centra can't return the money to investors as the SEC confiscated it and is now in control of the funds. That is publicly available in court documents. Secondly, speaking of scammers, lets take a look at the trust level of the person who first started this, Pali. It says a lot about what he has done to people and projects in the past. So you may want to consider where you get your information from.  Be careful as he works for another other project, Bitmillex. You definitely don't want to be involved with any projects who are supported by known scammers.

- SpaceMan
2016-05-01
0.40399960

I helped him play on bustabit by paying his bits in return for him to pay me through his bank the amount I paid but never got any payments. He's a total lying cunt and all lies and fake scum.
TripScripts
2016-11-04
0.00000000

Do not trust. Is a user with a huge amount of alts used for the sole purposes of evading and restarting his name to loan from others and scam others.

https://maidbot.finlaydag33k.nl/index.php?username=lsd
Yelpdood
2017-11-08
0.01200000
Reference
DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. He's a scammer. Scammed me out of 1.25 LTC.
RaidBossOath
2017-12-23
0.00000000

scammer, stole 3500 usd from the made2burst project.
Nerobasta
2018-05-24
0.00000000

Possible alt of Cazkys user who's been scamming. See the merit amount received (50) on a shit post. Its just too easy. Idiot.
baba0000000000
2018-06-20
0.00000000

Abuses feedback system and gave me a fake feedback that is not valid.

Very detailed and thorough investigation for a newbie account... just three posts and all of them were made in this thread... if I didn't know better, I'd have said Pali's stepped on some cosmic toes... but I do... or do I?


Pali! You are a loser and scammer!

So, you said the following elsewhere
good project! just found out  8)checking white paper now

PS my other account got hacked :((

Who were you before you became Matthew?


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: ssmith3160 on August 17, 2018, 12:07:27 AM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

If there is no ICO where is the funding coming from? How can a group who had their funding seized and currently in 3 legal battles possibly be trusted?


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Cryptomilz on August 17, 2018, 01:34:26 AM
Whether or not it's a scam or the same guys coming back to milk the industry some more, I'm staying far from whatever phantom thing they got going. Lost a lot of money to centra and I'm not about to lose another with my eyes wide open


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Cryptomilz on August 17, 2018, 01:38:18 AM
Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it
It's an obvious scam and you can see the evidence through SEC report about centra was being alleged as a scam project. The CEO of centra has already arrested by US security and phantom just another scam project of centra scammer developers. I heard these scammers have been banning so many people from their telegram group.

How is it obvious? You used the word alleged, which means nothing has been proven. Innocent until proven guilty still means something in America. If they aren't asking for people to buy tokens, how can it be an ICO and illegal? Do all of you have law degrees when you sit here and state they are breaking the law?

Hi Centra Shill. Go ask Sam to give you a rebuttal for these questions that they will need to have one hell of an answer to in order to avoid going to jail and being fined to the tune of millions of dollars. If you can give passable answers it will go a long way with the court of public opinion.

1. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to their phony CEO Michael Edwards and why did Sam Sharma acknowledge his existence on two separate occasions in videos currently available on YouTube? Why should I trust anything this guy is involved in after that?

2. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to supposed partnerships with Visa, Mastercard and Bancorp being advertised during their ICO as well as videos available on YouTube by Sharma, when evidence shows that not only did those partnerships/agreements not exist, the company was being hit with cease and desists from all 3 companies yet Centra continued to advertise partnerships?

3. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to advertising an agreement for the card to operate in 38 states when court documents show that they didn’t have the license to operate in even 1 state and also the cost to get such licenses would have cost the company funds they never had access to pre ICO? There is also YouTube video of Sharma touting this ability.

4. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to coin price manipulation by Ray Trapani as shown by text message in court documents? Given this, what is to say that all Phantom represents is another opportunity to manipulate price to help liquidate Sam/Ray/Robert’s CTR?

Let’s see the “truth prevail”


Until they provide answers to all these and more, they're a persona non grata to me. Feel so sorry for those who're going to be scammed again despite reading all these


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: jamids on August 17, 2018, 01:40:53 AM
I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time

Yeah, it's such a discouragement when you spend time and effort promoting a project and then end up being scammed. Unfortunately, we cannot just easily get rid of this kind of scams because scammers also are being creative and they are one step ahead of us so a thread like this would at least help those potential investors who might be thinking in investing in this projects. Thanks to the members of this forum who have done their research to reveal such scheme.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Cryptomilz on August 17, 2018, 01:44:34 AM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

No ICO? Is that the selling point? I'm not buying it. For a team that's currently entangled in 3 legal battles with funds from the centra 'project' frozen up, how are they supposed to fund phantom whatever?


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: ssmith3160 on August 17, 2018, 03:01:45 AM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

No ICO? Is that the selling point? I'm not buying it. For a team that's currently entangled in 3 legal battles with funds from the centra 'project' frozen up, how are they supposed to fund phantom whatever?

Magic Centra dust that’s what it’s funded with...


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: CryptoBry on August 17, 2018, 03:16:28 AM
I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time

Yeah, it's such a discouragement when you spend time and effort promoting a project and then end up being scammed. Unfortunately, we cannot just easily get rid of this kind of scams because scammers also are being creative and they are one step ahead of us so a thread like this would at least help those potential investors who might be thinking in investing in this projects. Thanks to the members of this forum who have done their research to reveal such scheme.

Scammers, hackers, phishers and same-minded people are always good in using new technology in order to snatch money from their victims. some are doing it subtly and some are doing it openly just like what Centra people did and now they have the courage to pull another magic trick right before our own eyes. Maybe these people should be send to a remote place where they can never contact anyone so that they can not anymore plan of anything that can victimize people. Good thing that there are now also people who are concerned of this industry and will not allow something like to go unexposed.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: eagleman on August 17, 2018, 09:34:07 AM
Why are those people haven't arrested yet?
I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time
Don't worry about the bounty campaign, worry about those people that invested their hard earned money to that scam.
If I'm correct is this the one that has been advertised by Floyd right?


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 17, 2018, 10:25:06 AM
I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

No ICO? Is that the selling point? I'm not buying it. For a team that's currently entangled in 3 legal battles with funds from the centra 'project' frozen up, how are they supposed to fund phantom whatever?
The only way I see is if they cannibalize whatever they've developed so far with CTR, merge it into some code fork (they are forking ARK btw), present it to the community as a working platform and then a few months later start soliciting for "marketing funds". Don't forget the possibility of a pre-mine


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 17, 2018, 10:25:56 AM
Why are those people haven't arrested yet?
I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time
Don't worry about the bounty campaign, worry about those people that invested their hard earned money to that scam.
If I'm correct is this the one that has been advertised by Floyd right?
Floyd and DJ Khalid


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: eagleman on August 18, 2018, 08:48:05 PM
Floyd and DJ Khalid
What DJ Khalid as well?

Well this is how marketing works, they just paid those popular people and advertise their project even without knowledge on what it is.

I guess they received millions of $$$ for advertising this scam.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Ultra777 on August 19, 2018, 08:03:28 AM
If you're tracking this scam, please be ready to save all the information about the project on your hard drive: site screenshots, yt videos, forum posts... They will delete all evidence!


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 19, 2018, 08:37:59 AM
Floyd and DJ Khalid
What DJ Khalid as well?

Well this is how marketing works, they just paid those popular people and advertise their project even without knowledge on what it is.

I guess they received millions of $$$ for advertising this scam.
Funny enough, those celebs could have been sold on how BTC went from cents to 10k and how their produce does BTC better. So, all they need is just some fiat to pair with their tokens because it's gonna be worth the moon in a few months compared to BTC's years. Bam!


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 21, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
If you're tracking this scam, please be ready to save all the information about the project on your hard drive: site screenshots, yt videos, forum posts... They will delete all evidence!
Yeah... it's amazing the lengths these guys will go to to clean up shop and trying to make you look dumb for knowing the truth


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Furious 7 on August 22, 2018, 02:29:26 AM
very funny, but this is dangerous because his actions harm others.
this will worsen investor confidence in the ICO. there must be regulation so that ico is getting better quality


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: haruna69 on August 22, 2018, 03:38:27 AM
my friend said Centra failed to get attention from their ico
yet i see another ico get a footballer along with them
ronaldinho now,
i get feelings it will same with centra


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Ultra777 on August 25, 2018, 12:55:47 PM
my friend said Centra failed to get attention from their ico
yet i see another ico get a footballer along with them
ronaldinho now,
i get feelings it will same with centra

Centra bought MyWeather instagram ads. Some celebrity with no crypto knowledge with a bunch of ads in his social media suddenly advertising a shady ICO should be a very big red flag to anyone!


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 30, 2018, 05:01:35 PM
my friend said Centra failed to get attention from their ico
yet i see another ico get a footballer along with them
ronaldinho now,
i get feelings it will same with centra

Centra bought MyWeather instagram ads. Some celebrity with no crypto knowledge with a bunch of ads in his social media suddenly advertising a shady ICO should be a very big red flag to anyone!
Guess the shocking part are those guys who are constantly waiting for someone to tell them what to buy, what not to buy, when and where. No wonder the market's a mess


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: eagleman on August 30, 2018, 11:12:09 PM
Floyd and DJ Khalid
What DJ Khalid as well?

Well this is how marketing works, they just paid those popular people and advertise their project even without knowledge on what it is.

I guess they received millions of $$$ for advertising this scam.
Funny enough, those celebs could have been sold on how BTC went from cents to 10k and how their produce does BTC better. So, all they need is just some fiat to pair with their tokens because it's gonna be worth the moon in a few months compared to BTC's years. Bam!
They don't even need that.

Why would they be keeping a token that's declared as a scam? they are out of it as long as they have received the payment for advertising that scam.


Title: Re: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core?
Post by: Ultra777 on September 02, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
Floyd and DJ Khalid
What DJ Khalid as well?

Well this is how marketing works, they just paid those popular people and advertise their project even without knowledge on what it is.

I guess they received millions of $$$ for advertising this scam.
Funny enough, those celebs could have been sold on how BTC went from cents to 10k and how their produce does BTC better. So, all they need is just some fiat to pair with their tokens because it's gonna be worth the moon in a few months compared to BTC's years. Bam!
They don't even need that.

Why would they be keeping a token that's declared as a scam? they are out of it as long as they have received the payment for advertising that scam.

I'm sure ppl who advertise some shitty ICO only accept fiat (maybe in form of BTC or ETH at the fixed rate) and such ads are not cheap. I try not to trust aggressive ads/marketing, especially some referral schemes, they scream scam... For me Ethereum is a good example of a project where mostly tech/code helped to increase value... Some of the "established" coins have also aggressive marketing but the usage is nowhere near Ethereum numbers.