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Who cares about your stupid world record. Are you 7 years old or what?

The only important thing for a customer who wants to buy mining equipment is by what date you can deliver the equipment, at what cost and at what power consumption

For example the HashFast BabyJet was very competitive IF it would have been delivered on time early November 2013. But by shipping your  flagship Golden Nonce 3 months late,

http://visionman-btc.com/blogs/news/11274809-hashfast-now-offering-the-long-pole-and-the-short-end-of-the-stick (http://visionman-btc.com/blogs/news/11274809-hashfast-now-offering-the-long-pole-and-the-short-end-of-the-stick)

it means it's completely obsolete, even compared to near competitors who did ship inferior equipment, slower, higher power consumption but ON TIME.

If you don't understand any of these facts, why are you trolling for HashFast because even you make them look worse than they are.

Shouldn't you be in the back office trying to fix or printer or so?

As a Batch #1 HashFast customer (product delivered 3 months late, 1/4 defective), an Upgrade customer (not delivered at all, now 4 months late), a Batch #2 Sierra customer (not delivered at all, now 4 months late), a Batch #1 MPP customer (not delivered at all, now useless), I can only point out to anybody even considering t order future equipment from HashFast: Don't. Past performance has proven HashFast sells overpriced products that don't reach their promised performance and in general, the equipment is delivered so late (or not at all) that it's impossible to make any money of your initial investment back.

Please don't order from HashFast, you'll regret it

Just read the stupid drivel of their Community Liaison...

Spend your money on a company that has an actual working product, where customers don't need to prefund its development and debug/co-develop  broken firmware. And that has product on stock, not a 3 months lead time which will go over deadline, rendering the product useless.

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I finally got a round to viewing this, and I must ask:  WHAT IS THIS GARBAGE?  Did you hack this up in 4 minutes on your phone while taking a shit?  If you're going to make up a bunch of bullshit to try and feed us at least make it plausible.  In what fucking world does a "snapshot of economy"  (whatever the eff' that is) contain solely whole numbers?

$2,000,000.00 ON THE DOT for HF hardware?  BULLSHIT.   What are the real numbers?  Further, if you're going to insist that these are them then I want some transparency.  I want a copy of the sales order posted to prove that this isn't a bunch of shit you pulled out of your ass, which I'm quite sure it is.  Feel free to redact any personal information. 

How is it that i never received a refund check?

:D

How about contacting your current Sierra customers and offering them a refund? You'll never be able to delivery any of the equipment they ordered. Same thing for the upgrade orders.

Admit your failure and refund customers

How about proper conduct for an ASIC vendor: Stop screwing over your initial loyal customers who pay your wages and funded all your development!

Without us, you would not be having a job. You'd be sitting in your moms basement trying to get your printer to work

How about getting thing fixed, by shipping out the Upgrade kits people paid for a December 2013 delivery. You are now 3 months late.
How about shipping out the Sierras people paid for a December 2013 delivery. You are now 3 months late.
How about shipping out the MPP for the BBJets people paid in Batch #1. The MPP calculation started on the 1st of November 2013 so by the 1st of Feb 2014, the MPP should have shipped. You are now 1 month late, at least. You could have shipped out the MPP together with the BBJets Bach #1 that were shipped out about 3 months late

Why are you taking preorders for another vaporware product you'll never be able to deliver to customers on time?

How about some real business conduct?

Let's discuss how awesome it would be for customers who paid in September in 2013 to get their equipment. Which we didn't.

How about that?

People: Don't buy from HashFast. You'll never get your equipment on time. It will not perform at 800 GH/s. The current firmware is version 0.4, it does not address any of the fundamental problems the early adopters are suffering from

Don't buy this crap product from this useless company

Bullshit

The bad feedback is from customers like me who invested loads of BTC (BTC 430 in my case) and never received the equipment (Sierra, upgrade boards, MPP) you were supposed to ship last year. We are now 3 months into 2014 and there is not even a hint on when (or if) you  are going to deliver on your promises.

In the mean time, you are free to delete my posts but I'll keep posting them again and again in this thread and other threads

He is having a laugh at our expense: he gets paid with OUR preorder money. He is probably very aware of the disgruntled customer base but he prefers to laugh in our face by just taunting us just like BFL Josh shows up at conferences and keeps recruiting new punters.

Hi, My attorney sent the check back— via a certified letter, so I don't know what you're talking about checking a mailbox— because:

(1) The check came with a letter requiring me to agree to additional contractual terms— an NDA, a "disparagement agreement", and consent that accepting the funds satisfied HashFast's obligations— which were not part of our agreement. I do not accept these terms. We have an existing contract in place. You do not get to make additional demands, especially after you are already in default.

(2) Our contract was for a full refund of funds paid if you failed to deliver by your deadline, a fact that I— and others— clarified with your executive staff in excruciating detail— though it was clear in the contract and your communications— specifically because other mining vendors have ripped off other people by collecting funds and then selectively "refunding" in USD if the value of BTC goes up instead of delivering product or refunding the amount paid.  Instead the check for something like $6200 (I don't have it anymore so I don't recall the exact value) which is not even remotely adequate compensation. What you offered was a very small partial payment under onerous additional terms and an agreement that it settled the obligation.  I am not required to accept that and my failure to accept it does not relieve you of any obligation what so ever.

This isn't calvin ball. You cannot insist your customer forfeits their assets because they didn't hop on one leg when you demanded it totally out of the blue after failing to meet your commitments. That you would suggest any such thing is offensive. When people order the EVO mining boards in this thread and the price of BTC goes up will you then forcefully cancel their orders and send them checks that cover only a tiny fraction of the coins they spent and try to argue that they get nothing at all if they don't agree with your "settlement"?  I suppose you will since you are no longer promising full refunds, ... though since your promises are apparently worthless I guess it doesn't matter what you've promised in any case. Maybe it tripply doesn't matter: I can't believe that many people are foolish enough to purchase from you now, I certainly never would have without promises of a full refund making me believe that I was protected from precisely the kind of spectacular failure to deliver which your company has exhibited.

These matters have been pointed out to HashFast in my numerous emails and certified letters. Even in this point you appear to be feigning complete ignorance my numerous attempts to settle the matter in a mutually agreeable manner in accordance with the original contract that I purchased under.

It's interesting that ettinger didn't signed that document.
He probably wants to run as far away from the word "hashfast" as possible, given how it would mark his career.
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Yes, it's unbelievable that you are here giving legal advice to the same customers that you screwed.
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http://hashfast.org/Simon_Barber#Promised_Full_BTC_Refunds

http://hashfast.org/John_Skrodenis#Promised_Full_BTC_Refunds

Thanks for calling out the windfall seekers who wanted to be in a can't lose/free lunch situation at HashFast's expense.  "Silly" is one of the right words for their ridiculous expectations, but some other ones come to mind given the actions they've taken...

You mean the people who knew BTC was bound to rise and sought repeated assurances from you that you would hold the BTC and they would not be worse off in BTC terms if you failed to deliver on time?

From the 4 machines I received (3 months late), all of them had loose screws rattling around in the enclosures. Some of the BBJet boards were only attached with one screw, and hanging from the wiring harness

Quality assembly my ass

Loose screws is one thing, but one of the cases had one long black bolt in surplus, a clear mistake during the mounting of the water cooling


If Ciara is such a great leader in gettings quick out of the door, why have I not seen the Batch #1 MPP ship? Or the upgrade kits? Or the Sierras from Batch #2?

Surely Ciara can keep up with the parts you ship them?

Having a demo unit to show off at conference is not the same as having a mass produced product. So you sold out your EVO Batch #1, why is holding you back from shipping it to your eagerly awaiting customers? You have the parts....

To make sure other people don't make the same mistake I've made in the past: if you spend any money on Hashfast equipment, you are sure to get it too late (if it even ships), it will not perform as promised and their customer support is horrible

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ze69c/core_developer_gmaxwell_speaks_out_against/

Yes you nailed it, HashFast's track record of delivering equipment on time to customers is pathetic, there is no better word for it

This isn't the ASIC Olympics.

To HashFast that's all it is... (wow and my single post about my deleted mosts was deleted... thanks Chris!  8) )

Asshole keep deleting my posts, no worries, I will reposting the truth.

He asshole, when are you sending out the MPP?
And why so many people don't have their BJ yet?

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Batch One EVOs sold out almost instantly, so exhibiting your grudge in public hasn't had any noticeable effect.  Better get a Batch Two before they're gone!

Do you actually own CT hardware or are you only presuming to speak for those who do?

Batch One EVOs sold out almost instantly, so exhibiting your grudge in public hasn't had any noticeable effect.  Better get a Batch Two before they're gone!

a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience

I think by far the complaints about Hashfast dwarf those about Cointerra

Like... why have you not shipped the MPP for Batch #1? Why have you not shipped the upgrade kits? Why have you not shipped the Sierras?

Care to give an answer to that?

Court? You are such an ignorant. The contract you forced us into says arbitration. It's Morici that will bring you in court and win.

Don't worry -  i will be there with kilograms of popcorns. Yeah, kilograms, you know what a kilogram is, right? It's one thousand grams.
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I accepted Bogart's bet, on his conditions (ckolivas doesn't count) and even offered to double the stakes.

He has yet to respond.  I wonder why?

Caras answer is very deceptive, if the USD/BTC exchange rate is taken in account, why did she state the equal amount of BTC will be refunded?

Just admit it, the equal BTC refund was just another one of your marketing ploys you back peddled on, deceiving your earliest customers.


How about Hashfast starts shipping the MPP they owe on Batch #1 BBJet orders? Or the Upgrade kits? Or the Sierras? Or the MPP on the Sierras?

... evo - evolution from what? ZERO?

It's very clear right there. Are you claming Cara was lying? The promise there has nothing to do with any sort of exchange rate.

HashShit_CL are you playing the GAY wife or the Gay man.
To FUCK or to be FUCKED

This message will be deleted in T-minus seconds by GAY PRIDE CL

You really are a piece of work.

* If HF would have delivered on time the machines would have produced roughly the amount of bitcoins they were sold for in the first place. This is why you have batch 1 customers.

* To guard against delays and difficulty rises there was the MPP. However HF has not delivered on this promise. Even if they do at some point in the future it is now a case of too little to late.

* As a last resort there was the promise to refund the original payment. Made here on the forum, in support emails, in person and in the ToS+order confirmation. HF has defaulted on all their earlier promises and shifted the risks and losses to their customers.

To even suggest that customers asking for a refund of the original payment in BTC are opportunists looking for a windfall is an insult.

I'd like to propose a new drinking game for the forum.

When Hashfast ships out the MPP they owe Batch #1 BBJet orders, you take a shot
When Hashfast ships out the Upgrade kits they sold with a December delivery date, you take another shot
When Hashfast ships out the Sierras that are now 4 months late, you take two more shots
When Hashfast ships out the MPP they owe Batch #2 Sierras orders, you take 3 shots
When Hashfast ships out their new vapourware 750 GH/s EVO boards on time and on spec, you get to drink all night

But don't worry, March will be a month where we'll stay very sober... none of the above is going to happen

Prove us wrong, Hashfast... I'd like to get a few shots. With the open issues above, you owe me 4 + 4 + 4 + 6 shots. I hope nobody is so naive to have bet anything on the EVOs after they read the relevant Hashfast threads 

Look at your trust rating.
You are just another pedophile who happens also to be GAY scamming the young and old.

I wonder how fast you will delete this post.
If you are that fast with shipping the MPP, I think a lot people will be happy inclusive me.
We will never mine the BTC back that we have lost because of your incompetence, but we can limit the damage a bit.

Please explain HashFast's promise here:

We built the machines we were paid for;

So, now since they've specifically stated that they would denominate refunds in USD and have specifically stated that a refund in the event of a shrunk BTC value would result in *MORE* bitcoins, that means that a refund could be initiated now by people who pre-ordered back at the $1200 or $1000 mark, for a *positive bitcoin* "windfall," which would guarantee them a positive bitcoin INCREASE in a way which is guaranteed to give a better BTC ROI than mining with any HashFast equipment ever will.

Seriously, people who pre-ordered at the higher value should be asking for a refund now that they're not delivering basically at all.

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FWIW, it looks to me like they're selectively locking the other thread when they're not at the computer and can't be vigilantly deleting messages. Kinda crazy.

This company is way way beyond "fishy". "Not classy" would be a significant upgrade.