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I have 2 Bitcoin and know we have great prices right now (even though we are over 7k) and I would like to buy into my favorite Alt coin however I'm nervous there will be some sort of drama  surrounding the September 30th decision regarding the ETF.

How would you guys buy in?  All in now?  Half now half later?  I'm stuck and not sure how to proceed. 

I think good idea is sell all coins on 29 of september first while waiting for decision of Bitcoin ETF, and then incase Bitcoin ETF will be approved we can buy back all coins. But if denied we can avoid loss because big probability the price will going down, and waiting for others deepest to buy back because in the long term Bitcoin still has potential to bullish.

It's hard to affirm this. The ETF Foundation may be the good support tool for the market and to create more trust for investors. Need a lot of stuff, to promote this market. Hopefully in the future, there will be a healthier and more developed market

I can feel that we Bitcoin lovers and hodlers are now again in a big crossroad...one that can be confusing on what to do...whether we let go or we continue to hold the coin. I actually hate this kind of thing because we are not in anyway on control as to what can be the decision and we can only speculate. Personally, am hoping that there can be the positive approval finally but knowing the kind of SEC people the agency has I might also be moving mine. Still, am very positive that maybe this coming decision is the one we are waiting for.

i would make sure to stay away from investing in any altcoin until the ETF decision becomes clear. of course you can always trade the pumping coins that are getting pumped every day even for the past 9 months of altcoin dumps but you have to find them on your own and on a daily basis.

in any case the reason for it is that there is no scenario that altcoins can go up in my opinion. if ETF is rejected and bitcoin has a drop then there will surely be a much bigger drop in altcoins which is the most possible scenario.
but even if ETF is accepted and bitcoin has a rise there can still be a big drop in altcoins since the money will move to bitcoin to FOMO buy it so you can again lose.

we don't know the decision that SEC will take regarding ETF later, but for now I'm only focusing on holding bitcoin and some other old altcoins like eth, ltc, xmr and doge.

At such moments it is better to divide your portfolio and probably stay keep 1/3 in bitcoin and some alts while the rest be in fiat, once after the period have elapsed, if the etf decision becomes positive you will have something at least to gain from what you have bought and if it goes the other way, you will have enough fiat to buy the drip, either way, you win

If i have 2 btc, i Will keep them. This is long term for me
ETF Will not be aproved on my opinion.
After that off course price can drop.
All depend at witch price you buy the BTC and how mutch you expect to earn.

at least 2 weeks after the ETF decision comes out. because i believe they are going to reject this ETF too just like the previous dozens of ETF that they have been rejecting all this time.
and when they reject the ETF bitcoin may drop back to $6500 again and that 5% drop can start another 20% to 30% dump in altcoins.

If i have 2 btc, i Will keep them and wait for a good time. if ETF approve than btc price grow up and i will sale my btc. it will make more profit. other hand ETF not approve than price can drop.

ETF decision can make a lot of surprizes. But we dont know which effect will have this decision - price will increase or falls again. Also we dont know what will be before this decision. Practice shows that all main moves happiens before.

Hopefully, ETF will bring a good news. In case they don't, we still can make profits in the long run. Just be sure, you're not investing in any shitcoin. I'd suggest keeping limiting in only Bitcoin and Ethereum. After ETF result comes out, you can decide what should you do. Till then, practice day trading for quick cash.

Nobody knows what is the ETF decision but in my opinion dont put your all money in crypto, just only the money you can afford, lets say 25%-35% of your saving thats good enough to buy cryptocurrency.

There was a dump today, most likely to keep the price low so institutional investors will jump in at a good price point. Once the ETF is granted we will see a very rapid rise as the whales move in. Best to keep at least 25% in btc and see where the market goes, alts might bleed out or pump together at a higher rate

I think it would be extremely risky to take a financial moving before the ETF decision. Yes, you will have a chance to make a really high profit, but you can lose a lot of money if it is announced in the decision.

it is best to wait for a decision on ETF. they will decide in what direction the market will go. and until this moment we will still go down to the bottom. as today. because many do not want to risk a negative verdict

If i have 2 btc, i Will hold them. when btc price grow up that time i will sale my btc and make profit for my investment. if ETF not approve than price can drop but its not sure.

The bitcoin price is stable now. The price of it gradually increase. It best decision to hold the coin. ALT coin can give you enough facility like bitcoin. So I suuget you to but bitcoin and hold it. It will give you huge profit.

It is difficult to say what decision the SEC will take and how it will affect the market. I think the best option would be to postpone the purchase of altcoin until the final decision and only then buy something.

In my opinion bitcoin is better than ALTcoin. Although alt coin is performing well but it cana not provide facility like bitcoin. The profit of it is not same as bitcoin. So I think holding bitcoin is the best option.

I would hold on a while longer for to buy back my favorite altcoins as the market seem to have taken a new turn in the last 24 hours .the focus should be to preserve the worth of your total portfolio at the moment and then, when things are better, you pick your alts

if you hold the bitcoin that would be the best decesion. bitcoinis a long time investment. if you consider this as a long time investment then it's really not matter what sec will be announced about etf

September 30 is the end date. The decision is made in advance, perhaps a week earlier. It will be spontaneous

we still don't know what actually sec will be announced. maybe they will again postponed the decesion. who knows? better hold the btc.

I have always known that this ember months would be months of blessing, months where cryptocurrency would recover its lost glory. Let's wait and see.

i don't think etf will be accepted. maybe market will fall down again. for avoiding loss you can sell the coin but i will suggest hold the coin .market will come back . maybe it will take time.

If i were you, i won't use the bitcoin to invest in any altcoin at the moment, I will convert the btc to a stable coin and hold it until after the ETF is been decided, once it is decided, you can still buy into bitcoin and other altcoins again before the prices starts going up.

It is prohibited to use bad language, otherwise, I use the bad word about ETF! ETF is manipulating the crypto market. I really can't find any clue that why people are excited about ETF announcement, every time they rejected cryptocurrencies and I am pretty sure ETF will reject bitcoin on 30th September again. Though that will be a great moment to buy Bitcoin and altcoins in cheap rate. Bitcoin price is now under 7K USD, after 30th September, It can go under 6K USD! So, that will be the best time to buy.

I think price targets are best suited for this stage
Divide your money into three sections, for example
Each week you trade according to the direction of the market
If you are not a professional Hold it and wait .

Buy 20-25 September - then you can not have time to buy bitcoin at a low price. I think this will be the start of a new bitcoin growth

I think sec decision about etf will be delayed till 2019. I find that hard to believe they will approve it. So we could see another dump, if you want to buy/sell, use stop limit orders.

I will go half-now half-later, definitely we should be expecting market price to go a bit higher starting from 20th of this month,  but after now one knows what will happen next.
Half-Now Half-Later is the best option for me

I think that the decision will be postponed again, or it will leak out and the market will react according to it.
I would stick to BTC as it is dominating the market and investing to alts it is risky at the moment.

if in doubt, it is best to keep only bitcoin. altcoins are now unstable and their behavior is difficult to predict, I do. I have no free funds and I'm just waiting for this event to happen

ETFs wont be accepted dont even think about it, market is manipulated and this noting else is reason of not accepting btc ETF, it will not cane anytime soon.
Brace yourself for sad autumn where noting good happens.

I think 30 September will be rejected by the etf contracts for Bitcoin. But by the end of the year they will be approved and the price of bitcoin will grow

First, congrats for having that 2 BTC, protect it at all cost. Yes, there will be a lot of drama surrounding the decision. Others think that it could make or break this market. If I'm in your shoes, I will wait after the decision. Why in case of a rejection, the price could go down so that is a perfect buying point.


It's really up to you, in case the price go to bottom and you have the funds then I will go full 1 BTC hard. But if you don't have enough money, then maybe half now half later is a good strategy, its a win-win actually.

I think that you should not count on a positive decision on September 30. the recognition bitcoin-ETF will take "quite a long time" for the reason that the crypto-currencies themselves are very young. Example: the last asset that was approved by the SEC was copper, "that was on earth for 10,000 years."

I suggest later after the result decision of the ETF approval, i think if ETF failed wil fall down again because of some bad speculation and negative news came from fuddled.

In my analysis after week I really strongly believe bitcoin raised again their price the bull run start until end of this year. That only my opinion and own analysis

Stay in bitcoin. I believe that a cash-redeemed bitcoin investment instrument like an ETF is the lever that will finally open the bitcoin market to large scale entry, particularly by institutional investors who have not yet made the jump. A bitcoin ETF theoretically could help bitcoin and the wider crypto market achieve a valuation that only mass adoption could otherwise achieve.

It will become a bad news and i guess that will give a very bad trend to the bitcoin. The altcoin will get a huge impact caused by that. There was no a lot of protection in the cryptocurrency. you can see that first and second ETF has already rejected and the last ETF will be the same as it. I bet the best time to enter cyrpto will have come after last ETF announcement.

Many bitoin holder are confused about the market and they don't know what to do now. But hope bitcoin ETF will get possitive approval from SEC and then bull run will be shown by bitcoin.

better w8 6300-6500 then buy

dude if i have such coin at the moment, i am not taking any chance at all, I sell of the bitcoin and hold the money in USDT or maybe fiat and wait to see the market reaction and the direction the market is going to, I won't really invest in anything at the moment, until the ETF decision.

I think the ETF is not a factor in judging the growth of bitcoin. assuming data in 2017, bitcoin still maintains its growth and market capitalization is always filled. it still boom. However, bitcoin ETF can bring in freshness in the trend and popularity faster. Post-ETF responses can be leverage.

If SEC approve bitcoin ETF then bitcoin will be rise tremendiously. So it's up to SEC approval and that's why many bitcoin holder and who are now interested about bitcoin are confused about bitcoin.

To be honest, it is very difficult to choose the right path because it is not yet known about the SEC decision but I will buy bitcoin and Ethereum today. Let's see what happens !

On September 29, contracts for bitcoin futures expire. And on the 30th of September there will be positive news with ETF contracts for bitcoins. When and there will be growth

keep holding your BTC, because we don't know the outcome of the ETF decision later, whether it is accepted or not. if it is received, it may be that the BTC will experience a high increase, but if the opposite is not the only BTC that can fall, alt will also experience a bad fall.

Are you from SEC? Astonishing confidence in positive desicion about ETF. Nobody know and i prefer to wait and buy btc only after decision not before.

Sec will certainly not approve for ETF, because the crypto market is very much affected by the slightest bad news. Lost $ 40 billion in value for the last 24 hours and no valid reason. Sec doesn't approve of such a ridiculous market.

You need to buy on September 20. Then you will not miss the beginning of bitcoin growth. If you buy 30 centerby - the price may be 20-30% more expensive

Just know that if ETF eventually didn't not get SEC approval on 30th there shall be a free fall both bitcoin and altolcoins, if you are sceptical convert all your coins to fiat and wait for the drama which will happen beige and after 30th sept.

Interesting where you get that idea, moving back from last year scenario, after ETF got rejected the value pumped high and most of those people who worried and fell into panic after that rejections are still regretting, what if they hold and wait till December for sure they really gone to well, if you wanted to invest make sure that you are investing to something that you fully understand and never to listen with someone's opinion do your research and trust your own knowledge.

So to be honest it is very hard to help if you do not tell us your financial situation. You said that you already own 2 bitcoin which is a pretty huge amount of money that you have already invested in my opinion. I would go for half now and the other half after the ETF decision.

I used to hold bitcoin and hope that bitcoin ETF will be approved this time.If it's not happen then it will not felt very bad effect on bitcoin I think. Let's see what happen.

in my opinion for now ETF is the last chance to make the market increase, because if Bitcoin is received then I'm sure market will increase.

And when it touch 30 sep, it will postponed again.. :D
Market is played by news and FUD, so the price is not always stable and it's really fast.

A good price will be when we see 5500, then the big players are likely to open futures. It is necessary to catch the time of opening strong long positions and not to panic.

If you are afraid of the effects of the ETF, it is best to wait until 30 Sept to make a decision. No one will know what the future of the market trend. In mu opinion, if i have 2 BTCs like you, i will use only 1 BTC to buy altcoin.

We can wait some time to avoid loss there are many investors so its better to take some time and then buy it will be good. The market price may be going down. So need to tack some time .

This is some kind of game on the feelings of the holders. ...postponing of the decision, the gradually narrowing of consolidation on the level of 6K$. Something important will happen, but how will this affect the market?

We don't know where this will be going after the decision about ETF as for me with or without the approval of ETF this technology will still survive.

 Whatever verdict may come out on the deadline date, I think it will not give a big impact on the market, besides I believe that SEC will again reject the proposal just like what they did with the other previous proposals and the same reaction of the past crypto still manage to withstand the storm so no worries about this.

time to buy has passed ... now you can jump into the last car - now there will be a rapid growth. Good luck brothers.

Its hard to take a decision so fast.But, you will be better to sell all of your coins befoer 30th decesion. And feel freshed. againg buy after this program understanding the market.

It is best to hold up until the point settle on 30 Sept after that you go for the decision. The market cost might go down. We can hold up some an opportunity to maintain a strategic distance from misfortune there are numerous financial specialists so its better to take some time and after that get it will be great. trust that bitcoin ETF will be affirmed this time. in the event that it is gotten, it might be that the BTC will encounter a high increase.

Many people are waiting for this momentous event, as read that after futures market must respond to bullish and the price will go up most of the projects,and the capitalization itself is very much in the price will shoot, waiting and hope that the 30 number will please us

This is a very confusing time right now. Prices are up but sep 30th ETF decision can change everything. You need to think before you invest all of it.

Is this the best time for exchanging? Because the coming september event may cause some issues and differ the market prices.

You will remember how many times bitcoin was waiting for important news, and whatever the outcome it still did not break. Except for the temporary one.

I don’t know buying into ATC will be a good idea or not. But if you don’t want to take risk for upcoming decision of 30th September regarding BTC ETF then you should sell out to fiat.

It is hard to determine the prices in this market. I personally feel that prices will rise nearer to ETF decision. I would buy now since the prices have dipped and won’t buy nearer to 30 Sep.

The ETF decision for BTC will have impacts on the price of BTC as well as the altcoins. If more ETF gets approved then people will be more into BTC that ATC. But if ETF does not get approve, all the crypto might lose price.

If you buy, just buy bitcoin only, not alt coins. All alt coins investment is really very risks at moment. Bitcoin only remained the stable coin in last 6-7 months and alt coins are much lower in price if we compared to BTC price in recent months.

Close to the end of September may actually be a good time to start considering to buy. Although I am still very sceptical with the ETF decision affecting the market if it turns out negative, but at least a positive one would be a good one for the market.

The best thing though is to just monitor the news and most especially monitor the trend and when a huge volume will hit the market. In that case, you will be sure not to miss the right time to buy.

There are no guarantee that upcoming ETF decision will be positive. SEC has time until the end of February 2019 to decide, which companies will be accepted to offer these kind of services. I hope to see the bull run after that, because I remember the same situation with the gold in the beginning of 90s. So, SEC is so powerful at this moment.

I think I should buy it now. Because the price of Bitcoin is very low and as of September 30th, there will be some fomo effect to increase the price of bitcoin. Buy it now and sell it before September 30

In my opinion, news does not affect the market, as we used to think. Every day in the field of cryptocurrencies there are many events. But only when there are sharp price movements people start paying attention to news trying to explain the price movement. But in fact, news is extremely rare indeed affect the price of the asset.

This must be decided by yourself, be sure of yourself, if you are still not sure I suggest to hold it until the ETF's decision is delivereda and there is no guarantee ETF has a positive impact too, or mid-October so that there is nothing to blame because everything is beautiful if you are self-confident however risky it will be

I think in the short term I can not put forward a request that the SEC requires, although there are a lot of organizations applying for the Bitcoin ETF fund, but most of them do not fit the industry pattern that the SEC accepts. And another thing I see is not going to be very volatile if the SEC accepts the ETF

better wait for a solution, maybe if there is a negative then we will fall to the bottom

In my own opinion, I think you should convert and hold the money in a stable coins like USDT and wait for this whole market dream to end before you can make a major investment again.

I recommend to convert your bitcoin to ethereum, because the eth is too low at this time ( which is good to invest and have a high potential profit rate than others, add the firm foundation history of eth and its different uses around the crypto market ). But if  you are not sure and undecided yet, just keep your 2 bitcoin. Facing the risk doesn't mean you always lose at the end, sometimes you need to... to be more better in the future.

Coinbase is trying to create a crypto ETF. This is probably the hottest news for bitcoin at this time. But I wonder why bitcoin goes down from $ 7400 to $ 6400 too fast. Is this the last drop to start uptrend? Once the ETF is complete

I would advise you hold on to your bitcoin until after ETF decision, most of the traders have moved their altcoins into btc and stable coins, some have even cash out to fiat waiting for the decision, so it's a good idea for you to wait too.

This news is certainly good and I'm also interested in why the market did not react to it. It's strange that the market reacts to negative rumors immediately, and does not react to positive news at all.

actually, the big effect on this ETF is only the movement of bitcoin. when ETF reject bitcoin will go down and alltcoin will also go down. but when ETF are accept then bitcoin will rise, but not necessarily altcoin also rises

I think it will be a good idea if you can divide the your capital into two and invest half into crypto currency now because the prices are good at the moment, then you wait for etf decision, then you can decide where to put the remaining.

You don't have to expect that ETH effect that you are saying for bitcoin. With or without that, bitcoin will stay as it is. There will be a decrease factor if the ETH gets rejected but that's not the end of the world. If ever it will not be approved, you will see on how great bitcoin is by can stand alone even without those proposals that has been believed by most to create a bullish effect.

Most likely it will be rejected again but more ds coming up for sure.
Keep some dry powder for that

I think if we even get rejected, the price will not go even lower. This is already a bottom.
We can only see the price going up from now. I doubt that we would see it go any lower.

I think early September is good point to buy. Do you have in your mind what altcoins to buy?  Before the ETF decision at September 30th, the market will have strong fluctuations, you should keep your eyes at EOS, Ethereum and Bitcoin, fluctuation market is big chance to gain money.

At such minutes it is smarter to separate your portfolio and likely stay keep 1/3 in bitcoin and a few alts while the rest be in fiat, once after the period have passed, if the ETF choice ends up positive you will have something, at any rate, to pick up from what you have purchased.

I would make a point to avoid putting resources into any altcoin until the point when the ETF choice turns out to be clear. obviously, you can simply exchange the pumping coins that are getting pumped each day notwithstanding for as far back as 9 months of altcoin dumps however you need to discover them all alone and regularly.

The September 30 decision has a huge impact on how the investors and traders decide on their decision to sell or buy Bitcoin now and it seems panic selling is the one prevailing, so we'll see after the date who will win, I believe believers are the one who will eventually win even if the application is declined.

I think a smart thought is to offer all coins on 29 of September first while sitting tight for the choice of Bitcoin ETF, and afterward in case Bitcoin ETF will be endorsed we can purchase back all coins.  Be that as it may, if denied we can maintain a strategic distance from a misfortune in light of the fact that enormous likelihood the cost will go down.

Do not panic too much about the upcoming ETF. If everyone hodl their coin or stick to their normal crypto activities without panic irrespective of the ETF outcome (negative or positive), everything will be fine.
If there is any further drop in price, I would not attribute it to the planned ETF, rather it will be attributed to crypto enthusiasts selling their tokens out of panic.

Actually it depends on you. If you do not want to take risks then sell all before 30 but if you are moderately risky then sell half and if you want to take high risk then keep it. Nothing can be guaranteed here and so take decision based on your choice of risk level.

The unique thing about this market is in the end how we turn things around in our favour. If we are unsure then we should sell it. But if we do have the faith in our strategy and we do believe that we can beat the odds and make us come in our favour, then don't sell it. In the end, it is us who decides our fate.

I already bought all the coins that I need. At the moment, I have big losses. I hope that after this meeting prices will go up strongly and I can at least get my money back.

My tokens dropped almost 3 times. But I expect growth, even if I have to wait a few years. If I sell cryptocurrency very cheaply, and then it will grow, then I will not forgive myself.

It's a tough decision considering the direction the crypto market has been heading towards, no one really knows what will happen come 30th of September but we just be hopeful.

The effect of the bitcoin ETF decision on the value of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is highly suprising and exaggerated.
There has been series of denial and it's most likely to be rejected again.

I do not expect the adoption of SEC futures before the next year February because the price of most cryptocurrencies will fall or will be stagnating for another 3-4 month. These are very sad words, but unfortunately, I have to say them.

In September it will be too late to do something because now many people are already beginning to guess that many projects will have growth, because now crypto-currencies are at the cheapest price, it's true, those who believe in them will be very rich.

This is totally up to you what will you prefer. This related to you risk behavior. If you are risk take then wait for the future otherwise you can sell to avoid risks as future is really uncertain here. Moreover you can also sell half and keep half for future.

I recommend everyone to buy Bitcoin, Ethereum and other altcoins on September 29th because I think on September 30th there will be very good news about cryptocurrency from SEC.

This time is better for investment because for the ETF days remains about 3 weeks and here at this interval of time in the month September last of first week cryptocurrency market is going to dump about 10% Plus so here we can see that if we can make investment in present time at this time then we can make easy profit before the implementation of ETF system , and after that there are chances that investment result into 4 to 5 x profit easily .
Probably days dump in the present time are expected that it is doing by the big whales who are holdings big amount of money in their pockets and manipulating the market according to what they want and creating fair in the newcomers who are investing in this field and trying to stop them to make profit and by creating panic they want take advantage to buy the assets at low price before ETF implementation .
so take the decision in the present time to make investment otherwise you will regret yourself that why you did not made investment at that time when market was going under the dump and also ETF launch was very near .

I think this is a very good suggestion that can enable an investor to make a very  good discussion at this critical point

The SEC Commision noted that the decision will be made by September 30th, although the language does suggest
that it is possible an earlier decision as well. I would wait for the decision and decide accordingly as now it is a coin toss.

For me, I'll hold the coins until the price is right. The US SEC's decision to ETF is assumed rejected, with the things are going. With or without ETF, cryptocurrency will be here. I'm sure better options will be there for ths industry.

Yeah probably ETF will be declined again , there are many fakes news coming out so people are dumping their coins whales buy in to manipulate the markets thats the fact since august its just a FOMO buy

If you continue to hold Bitcoin without you spinning with other coins, I think the benefits you get are very slow. More interesting if you trade with Bitcoin that you have. Don't be afraid to lose your Bitcoin by trading.

Don't sold your token yet, because the market will grow again. Let's just buy good coins right now so we can have the chance of making higher profit soon. Don't depend on the decision of the SEC on ETF because this market can grow without it, just focus on the technology of cryptocurrency and you will see brighter future.

I think not buying everything is the best step, hopefully you have done that. get used to a little profit but sustainable than the ambition of wanting to get a big profit but the end of the loss. so in my opinion invest only half of it.

For now crypto market is not stable at all, If I have such an amount now, I will sell it off and cash out the money into fiat and wait for the space to normalize or recover before re-investing the money again, the current market condition is just unpredictable and no one actually knows what will happen.

It's not easy to make a decision when all coin prices go down, but if I have as much money as you have, of course, I will buy Bitcoin. I am waiting for the results on 30 September.if the ETF is approved it is likely that the price of Bitcoin will rise and the price increase will be followed by other coins

After thinking about this subject and seeing this huge turn down we have had the past few days I get the vibe the ETF will be approved and this is the final shake out.  If I'm wrong I will simply drink this entire winter and check back in February to see if they approve then.  I'm all in on this last dip.  I also bought enough alcohol to last the winter so my bet is hedged.  Bring it whales/bankers. You tank it I get to drink for half a year.  Your raise it I get rich.  Make your play sucker.  

There are two things that will happen, first is the goodnews about ETF where bitcoin and all cryptocurrencies will jump so high or the badnews that will breakdown the trendline. I know that it is good to hold for today but I guess when the news comes in, we must be aware so that we can react easily in market movement.

If I were you, I wouldn't change anything. You can't say for sure, where BTC and altcoins will go. BTC has fallen less than altcoins cause it's still a king, and it's more stable. What's the point in looking for options, if you've already got a wonderful one?

if I were in your place, I would sell a half and hold money in USD and EUR. At another downfall of BTC (guess, it'll fall by $500-700) I'd purchase it again or buy some promising coins such as Cardano neo nex qkc vechain, etc

I would wait for a solution. because they can make a negative verdict and the market will fall again lower.

just keep it. if you really want to trade, you can buy now.

I guess the ETF on September 30 is likely to reject Bitcoin again, so don't pin your bullish hopes on the ETF. We should see Bitcoin's development in the future world, although Bitcoin is not may become a universal payment currency, but it has a good stored value function.As long as we can see this clearly, I don’t think we have to worry about the outcome of the ETF.

Look at Bitcoin to learn, many funds want to ETF for it but all are rejected. And why buy ETH when it can exploit forever, it is not like Bitcoin

The decision on the contracts for bitcoins can be made at any time. No one can say the best time to invest

The second scenario is more likely, as there is an opinion that the decision to approve the ETF will be postponed to January next year, after which the market will get another fall  :-[

I am not affected by anything, including ETF, WTF, WWF or whatever.
I believe that Bitcoin will raise the price when many people buy it, I'm a Bitcoin holder from the price of 1000 USD. LOL

This is not a good advice. selling all coins before the decision is a bad way to do.
What if the decision is positive, you can't buy back again.
You will be left with out any coins on your wallet while the rocket is going high.

I think that on September 30 ETF will not be accepted (again) and the price of bitcoin will fall again, so buy altcoins now. imho

somehow later on September 30th, everyone is waiting for the news.
if there are many who have 99% approve why is there no good movement? there should be a good movement of the coin

It is very unlikely that ETFs will be accepted on September 30th due to the very poor market conditions that have surrounded the ETF decisions in the past. The SEC don't want to approve anything that can be so extremely volatile as they are not looking to suffer the burden of causing so many people to enter a market where they could possibly lose their money. The volatility issue must be resolved before a BTC ETF will be approved IMO.

If the ETF is rejected again, I think the price of Bitcoin will fall because someone is panic selling, but I suggest not to make sell panic. Because the ETF is rejected it will not affect the price of Bitcoin for the future. Bitcoin will continue to move without rules from anyone. bitcoin is designed to be anonymous. because the person who created Bitcoin also no one knows its whereabouts.

It is kind of ironic that the original cryptocurrency that is completely built on the idea of being a decentralised currency beyond the control of any government or authority,  has its future value completely dependant on the decision of whether a government regulator will allow it be held in a centralised and regulated fund.

I would in your place just wait for the decision of the commission and only then would I make any deals