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Title: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Armadeus on September 08, 2018, 01:37:28 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: richminded on September 08, 2018, 02:07:03 PM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Yana_O1993 on September 08, 2018, 02:25:47 PM

if the project is not fraudulent, it does not mean that the investment will be successful)


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: bkrobottc1 on September 08, 2018, 02:41:27 PM
The best way is don't invest  :). This year is a difficult year for ICO after the explosion of ICO in 2017.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: GucciGangClub on September 08, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
it seems to me that there are no full guarantees that you will not get on scam. I try to carefully select projects, taking into account the documentation and checking the team ..


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: kewlc3s on September 08, 2018, 03:41:09 PM
Do not invest in ICO. By the way, if you are not HUGE investor, it is much more cheaper and more confident to buy later coins from exchanges.

As additional bonus, you can avoid KYC, will avoid scam, and will save about 50-90% of money because of cheaper price.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: ABYANSYARIF on September 08, 2018, 03:44:14 PM
the only way to avoid 100% scam ICO, is not joining ICO,but you will lost chance to get profit from good ICO


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Ludmila72 on September 08, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
all ico is longterms, first check roadmap and next invest.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: bozo333 on September 08, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
The only way is stay away in ICO investment and concentrate in coin and tokens investment. Nowadays most of the ICOs are scam so peoples are panic to participate in in these platforms. My only suggestion is better move to trading and mining platform.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: yojodojo21 on September 08, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

Escrows are rarely used by ICO's and could still lead to lose of funds if the escrow decides to take off to bahamas.  ;D There are still good ICO's out there with good viable working products already. You just need to search thoroughly.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: mitrajkt on September 08, 2018, 04:15:29 PM
Yes, I agree with you Yojodojo21, there are a lot of scams on ico, but there are still many who are serious and successful with their ICO, so we just have to be careful when choosing an ICO project and we will get money from the project.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: mamesso on September 08, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
The best way is don't invest  :). This year is a difficult year for ICO after the explosion of ICO in 2017.
I feel it, maybe this is a sign that the ICO will die slowly. too much cheating and fraud, I just became a small part in it. I have never invested unless my time to become a bounty hunter in 2017 is the best year for ICO and this year I have not found a real ICO, 60% ICO failed or extended.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 09, 2018, 12:39:55 AM
Give an example of the escrow that ICO would hire?

There are ICOs that are even portraying and aiming their project to become an escrow and there's no assurance about it.

The best way is don't invest  :). This year is a difficult year for ICO after the explosion of ICO in 2017.
I agree, it's better not to invest in ICOs anymore. I didn't invest to any ICO before but last year was the year of ICOs where most of them became the top coins now. It's hard to determine the scam ICOs now but just to be sure, stop investing to ICOs and focus on trading.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Mazzary on September 09, 2018, 01:16:23 AM
ICO project fraud is feared for investors and bounty hunters, because all those participating want to getting profit, now many ICO projects have failed to reach the softcap or failed pump coin prices, but there are still good ICO projects and profit, so we have to choose good ICO project before we decide on investment


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AlekseyCrypto on September 09, 2018, 10:59:25 AM
the only way to avoid 100% scam ICO, is not joining ICO,but you will lost chance to get profit from good ICO

In my opinion, there are no profitable ICOs this year. I followed many projects and the price of their tokens fell after the release of the exchange. Can you tell me what have been successful ICO this year?


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: kagtaviy_mo on September 09, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
There is one reliable method. To stop participation in ICO voobshe. Accordingly, your time and nerves will be in order. And the time that can be freed, you can spend on another craft.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Aniadec on September 09, 2018, 11:18:01 AM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.

Escrow means that a third party (trusted by investors and ICO) takes all funds raised during a token sale and then release these funds to ICO team when next achievements reached (due to project's roadmap).


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Koadharber on September 09, 2018, 11:40:39 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
Easy to say but nowadays its rare to see for a certain team to let escrows handle the money had been accumulated on the sale.Either they do have doubts to the escrow itself even no matter how trustable it is when it comes on handling millions of USD you cant assure if those trustable escrows wont able to be tempted to steal off that's why we don't really see such thing. So in either both sides theres no guarantee but I agree on the fact that  having a product would really be more appealing to invest on.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: biofuel on September 09, 2018, 12:01:11 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
Easy to say but nowadays its rare to see for a certain team to let escrows handle the money had been accumulated on the sale.Either they do have doubts to the escrow itself even no matter how trustable it is when it comes on handling millions of USD you cant assure if those trustable escrows wont able to be tempted to steal off that's why we don't really see such thing. So in either both sides theres no guarantee but I agree on the fact that  having a product would really be more appealing to invest on.

I remember when ICO trend was starting. Almost every startup was using Escrow. But then the hype was so huge that ICOs decided dont use it and it was a fault. Now investors dont believe even to good projects.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: curylebron on September 09, 2018, 12:27:12 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
the best way to avoid a scam ICOs is don't invest in ICO. But in exchange, you will be lost a lot of chance to get a profit from good ICO. The ICO market has exploded in 2017, but not this year. This year is a very difficult year for ICO


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Koadharber on September 09, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
Easy to say but nowadays its rare to see for a certain team to let escrows handle the money had been accumulated on the sale.Either they do have doubts to the escrow itself even no matter how trustable it is when it comes on handling millions of USD you cant assure if those trustable escrows wont able to be tempted to steal off that's why we don't really see such thing. So in either both sides theres no guarantee but I agree on the fact that  having a product would really be more appealing to invest on.

I remember when ICO trend was starting. Almost every startup was using Escrow. But then the hype was so huge that ICOs decided dont use it and it was a fault. Now investors dont believe even to good projects.
Yeah, I remember those days too where most of them being held of on escrow because this do give out trust to the public since the funds accumulated is being held by escrow and the trend goes big and coming to a point where ICO is already being used to make scams of millions of dollars and in effect it do really affect even the legit and good projects which they didn't even reach out their cap and that's the sad reality as of now.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Jamota459 on September 09, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
This is very difficult to know and find out if the ICO is a scam. Mostly they were responsive to messages. And all others things. At the end you only find out it was a scam


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Muzika on September 09, 2018, 03:00:04 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

I have seen that kind of ICO that every fund that they earn there will be an allocation for funding the bounty campaign and the idea is very nice so hopefully it will happen in the future so that the people wont have any doubt joining bounty campaign.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: BTC-BTC-BTC on September 09, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
An escrow ICO is a must in couple years. When no one is willing invest traditional ICO. We are not there yet but, we will definitely get there. There is no problem for legit team and project. It targets scam mostly.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: amir lusik on September 09, 2018, 05:07:47 PM
It is difficult to identify  scam projects . many projects lack transparency, so we hope there will be a mechanism to neutralize fraud in the future.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Marcel666 on September 09, 2018, 05:28:20 PM
I don't think escrows apply to investors in an ICO.
Do your due research, on the project, team, product, process.
There is no 100% guarantee that you would pick up on all scam projects. You would be less prone to getting duped.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Indick123 on September 09, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
It is not easy to recognized scam since some of ICO project are not visible to all the participants, the only way I think to avoid scam is to build software that signify .


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Flayme on September 10, 2018, 01:02:16 AM
The best way is don't invest  :). This year is a difficult year for ICO after the explosion of ICO in 2017.

Investment is really risky but if we have a knowledge on how to avoid it we will not take risk our money to much.  But if we invest without knowing if the project is good or not.. We are just like wasting our money and our efforts will be go in vain.  That's why before we participate in investing we need to make we are knowledgeable enough..


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: ABYANSYARIF on September 10, 2018, 04:41:29 PM
the only way to avoid 100% scam ICO, is not joining ICO,but you will lost chance to get profit from good ICO

In my opinion, there are no profitable ICOs this year. I followed many projects and the price of their tokens fell after the release of the exchange. Can you tell me what have been successful ICO this year?

you might want to read this, https://cryptovest.com/features/5-most-profitable-icos-of-2018-so-far/
i dont know whether it's true or not, you can always crosscheck
 


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: alrose on September 10, 2018, 04:59:30 PM
There are absolutely no guarantees to avoid scammers when investing in ICO. Even if you do not fall for scammers, there is still no guarantee that you will make a profit, the project just might fail. From this no one is immune.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: kewlc3s on September 10, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
It is difficult to identify  scam projects . many projects lack transparency, so we hope there will be a mechanism to neutralize fraud in the future.

I would say it is almost impossible. Good example - Centra Tech.
Good team, very strong support team and advisors - Floyd Mayweather, DJ Khaled and much more.
After ICO, price was going up, cards were sent. But, it all was a scam. All fake. Pity


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AxeWin on September 10, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
I think this year for the ICO was not successful, many projects that went to the stock exchange in a couple of months were a trifle.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: trextoken on September 10, 2018, 07:44:45 PM
NOT ALL ARE SCAM


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: RobinGood on September 10, 2018, 07:46:13 PM
in any way! it's impossible! 100% definitely not


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: bkrobottc1 on September 11, 2018, 03:16:33 AM
It is difficult to identify  scam projects . many projects lack transparency, so we hope there will be a mechanism to neutralize fraud in the future.

I would say it is almost impossible. Good example - Centra Tech.
Good team, very strong support team and advisors - Floyd Mayweather, DJ Khaled and much more.
After ICO, price was going up, cards were sent. But, it all was a scam. All fake. Pity
I think ICO is one of reason make price of ETH down. All scam project receive many ETH then sell them with low price.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: hunnykaushal on September 11, 2018, 05:58:41 AM
What we can do is proper research before any investment.

I most find very high rated project on ICOdrops and invest on them.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Ayston on September 11, 2018, 07:32:40 AM
There is no guaranty to know if a an ICO is scam or not... Since if the project is not a scam some project don't make it to the soft cap hence the project tends to fail so to make it successful you should also encourage others to make their social media more enthusiast to magnet the eye of possible investors..


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: cryptokingmaker on September 11, 2018, 07:43:38 AM
An escrow ICO is a must in couple years. When no one is willing invest traditional ICO. We are not there yet but, we will definitely get there. There is no problem for legit team and project. It targets scam mostly.

You are right, it is possible only through with the Escrow but how long he should the funds in order to distribute the fund to the company, i think governments should control the escrow activity because they will release the amount to the company one the basis of the developments they do.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Jekbolt on September 11, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
It is not easy to recognized scam since some of ICO project are not visible to all the participants, the only way I think to avoid scam is to build software that signify .

What do you mean saying a software that signify?

What signify? Are you talking about KYC for co-founders and other team members of ICO startups? Hm..most of ICOs are passing KYC on many trackers (ICO listing websites) with no positive effect.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: mr.nby on September 11, 2018, 02:16:18 PM
What we can do is proper research before any investment.

I most find very high rated project on ICOdrops and invest on them.

It is virtually impossible to completely avoid ICO scam. Even a very thorough research do not give 100% guarantee the project will not turn into a scam. Often, even highly rated ICOs may prove to be a failure.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: BitindaHouse on September 11, 2018, 02:50:13 PM
ICO for today have a damp base, many create ICO to catch a scam, but I think we need to wait when it will not be settled by some people)))


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Upercusa on September 11, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
 I realized one truth after a year - it's almost impossible. Many scammers mask everything very professionally, so you will never guess  >:(


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: jacmaniac on September 11, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
if the project is not fraudulent, it does not mean that the investment will be successful


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Oilacris on September 11, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
No product progress = No money?

How they would make such development if the funds accumulated supposed to be or intended on such development is on hold? Escrowed funds is good but it would be essential for
further project development.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Master of Shitcoins on September 11, 2018, 10:47:35 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
That's a very good idea. By doing so we can avoid negative scamming ICOs because who won't use it will look like a scammer and is instantly identified. I hope your suggestion will be implemented.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Ribbitforum on September 11, 2018, 10:49:22 PM
i can suggest if the project have an trusted escrow i could say its nots scam,


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Hanazawa on September 11, 2018, 11:32:29 PM
The emerging of all new ICO's are unable to control that's why the percentages of having scam projects are increasing. Avoiding scam projects can do by understanding the purpose and the platforms of particular ICO projects. Having more knowledge and experience can be helps us to distinguish the difference between legit projects to scam projects.

And also I believe that no progress is equal to no money


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: benhill on September 12, 2018, 12:30:48 AM
ICO could have not turn to scam if the developer of a certain project have enough funds to finance their project, instead  of sourcing the funds from the public.I am not a party to not invest in ICO but i advise any investor to make research before invest their money because there are good ones out there. One thing i will like the investors and bounty hunters to note in their research is that they should make sure that any company planning to go to ICO might have generated about 80% of there funds internally  before looking for the rest in ICO. Such a project will not die on the way and shall be successful. Ruby-x bounty is the typical example,they generated enough funds from their sister company before going to ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: SPdiginomads on September 12, 2018, 01:50:53 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.


The better way to handle this to buy it later on exchange where 100% sure less than ICO after the inital listings. You can save your time and trade more effectively.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: quality.crypto on September 12, 2018, 03:22:16 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.


The better way to handle this to buy it later on the exchange where 100% sure less than ICO after the initial listings. You can save your time and trade more effectively.

Exactly, if we find potential in the project always try to buy them after listing in the exchanges because the price will suddenly drop to a lower value. When the price is decreased you can start investing in the exchange and holding it for more than 6 months.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: antsam on September 12, 2018, 05:12:03 AM
The idea is that I don't think it's suitable, how can an ICO use escrow? while they make the ICO have the funds to start their work projects.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Quattr0 on September 12, 2018, 05:27:14 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
Generally I do not think that 80-90% scam, too much percentage of scam, better choose the company's bounty, study them and their product.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Rhosadah on September 12, 2018, 05:42:59 AM
You have to know one of their teams, from which country and have friend connections in the country that is holding ico, but now crypto is in the lowering of prices in the market only bitcoin is still stable


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: krm4700 on September 12, 2018, 06:20:09 AM
This is a very difficult friend. but it is not clear. sometimes you can bring nice money even if you do not trust an ico. yes there are a lot of cheaters on the market but not everyone. there is a benefit to be careful


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: tot-o on September 12, 2018, 07:06:56 AM
You are right!!  Investing tokens that are already in listed with exchange whether small or big will eradicate scam project, and losing your money 100 percent... At least in exchange they will sti have value even drop happens... You just have to focus on how will you get them back


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AlaEhBTC on September 12, 2018, 08:50:11 AM
It is really hard to avoid scam ICOs because we will not know at first if that ICO is a scam. We should know about the ICO that we are entering, know about the company and whose people behind it. For sure if we feel something a little different on a specific ICO then we have a choice to stop.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Manuel05 on September 12, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
The rate at which scammers are getting smart is beyond me, its very difficult to avoid scam even though one have done proper research. What i do mostly is to buy after it have heen listen on exchange that way i 100% avoid alot; kyc, scam etc.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Evaporation 123 on September 12, 2018, 10:24:44 AM
Its very difficult to detect scam ICO at the beginning or in the middle of a project we must be vigilante go through there website and I believed we must know scam out of legit


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: perijahat on September 12, 2018, 10:46:31 AM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.
I think TS says how to avoid ICO scams, not how to avoid loss. do you really understand the difference between a scam and a loss


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: alexv10av on September 12, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
there is no 100% guarantee that ICO will be successful, even if it is not SCAM, there are no guarantees that the price will grow and you will earn more than invested


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Fritz93 on September 12, 2018, 12:54:44 PM
I believe that this is absolutely impossible, at least for the time being. You are always at risk by investing in ICO. However, I want to say that only those who do nothing do not make mistakes. It is necessary with all responsibility and caution to approach the choice of the project for investment.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Indick123 on September 12, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
I think we are in scam world now it is very difficult to know scam ICO at early stage of campaign or in the middle but to avoid scam we need to pay attention to their websites whether they have already in exchange before starting invest I think this method will avoid scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Panda.Panna on September 12, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
I think the mistaken opinion that 90% of scam, then in general, payments would not have been for the year, I think that it's just necessary to better choose a bounty company, and monitor it.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Torontello on September 12, 2018, 04:26:45 PM
What does it mean "scam".  Is it a definition of not- honest team that got money and run away after ICO?

Or it means a project that could not raise soft cap during its ICO?


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AlexKr on September 12, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
Even with the most careful selection of ICO, it is impossible to be 100 percent sure of this. Too much of this does not depend on you.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Clif4d on September 13, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
You must check out the following.. When looking out for the best Bounty's..
Their white paper
2,check out for their token Price's


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: bhadz on September 13, 2018, 09:19:39 AM
Even with the most careful selection of ICO, it is impossible to be 100 percent sure of this. Too much of this does not depend on you.
Correct. Sometimes the best are even hiding in curtains that you can't reveal at the beginning. How about not completely investing to ICOs so you can have 100% assurance of avoiding it.
What does it mean "scam".  Is it a definition of not- honest team that got money and run away after ICO?

Or it means a project that could not raise soft cap during its ICO?
You said it the first one, running away with investors funds and has no real project to operate. ICOs that won't reach soft caps are usually stopped and funds are returned to the investors.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Esofdemon on September 13, 2018, 01:47:55 PM
You can not avoid scam ICOs for 100%, because nobody knows what will happen in future. You can analyze ICOs and be sure in your investment for 90%, not more.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: EdenHazard on September 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.
The bounty program on this forum on average does not use escrow to pay for bounty hunters when the ICO project ends. The token will be distributed by the ICO developer so that the campign bounty manager just counts the number of tokens that must be sent by the developer to the participant. Unless an ICO project has a signature campaign and is paid with BTC instead of a token, there are several and almost all projects need escrow to pay for each participant.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: vladdracula06660 on September 13, 2018, 03:05:36 PM
From it nobody is insured I think it would be useful to listen to the estimates of professionals the level if you do not razbiraetes I think it will reduce the level of losing money !


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: krassy on September 14, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
I want to share the signs of unscrupulous projects, these signs can be safely applied to almost 90% of the released projects. This will save your time and money:
- Projects that have collected more than one million dollars, because this is a sign that the project already has enough funds and the profitability ratio is reduced, try to look for a project with a smaller fee.
- Projects that ask for more than $ 5 million are suspicious because blockchain adoption requires much lower costs.
- Projects offering a token discount of more than 20% are also questionable because the price of the token after being placed on the exchange may fall much lower than the placement price.
- it is also not profitable to invest in projects with large marketing costs (more than 50 thousand dollars). Such projects become widely known, and it is more profitable to invest in a unknown but unique project.
Any of these points - the basis for refusal. Do not be fooled: a huge ICO of 500 million dollars is unlikely to grow ten times after entering the stock exchange. Although, of course, there are exceptions.
But, how to 100% avoid scam ICOs? - dont invest at all))))


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: drachman on September 15, 2018, 02:58:40 AM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.
It is very possible and there were many icos in the past that used escrows, and in a way I agree with the OP, if we really want to avoid most of the scam icos in the market you need to invest only on icos that use escrows that are independent from the developer team and that are trusted by the community, that way if something goes wrong the escrows are going to protect the investors.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Gershonxer on September 16, 2018, 04:59:48 PM
How to avoid SCAM ICO
1. do a deep background checkup on the teams background
2. Too many promises about moon! Lambos from the team members.
3. Check its github activity to see what they are up to.
4. Deep read into its whitepaper, whats the ICO, is it a security or utility token, is it a big money grab?


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Jatawneh on September 16, 2018, 09:22:21 PM

The best year of ICO was in 2017 and this year is a difficult for ICO but some ICO this year will make it and go on huge profit. 


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: active706 on September 17, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
It`s impossible to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs, but we can minimize chances by research work on project, idea, and team. Be wisely with your investments.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Indick123 on September 17, 2018, 11:57:24 AM
To avoid scam ico is not easy in crypto since is difficult to predict the future of currency.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: brooklynian on September 20, 2018, 06:26:49 PM
This is a very useful information but I still think it is not possible to eliminate scams totally in the ICOs unless there is an established body in place to check this projects from the unset and certify them good to invest in. Otherwise, all potential investors will run away from ICOs.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Oregano012 on September 20, 2018, 11:53:51 PM
no need for escrow, you just have to deeply research the project/ico before you jump in, blindly doing something will just hurt you . research for the team , how well is the community built and ofcourse what project&area it will tackle do that with due diligence and you will not just probably avoid scammy icos you might find a Really good and undervalued one. that just me tho goodluck hunting


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Tuturtinular on September 21, 2018, 01:00:30 AM
Avoiding an ICO scam is very difficult if you can't be careful, we just do a job without any results at all ... to reduce the risk of the ico project that is scam, I usually follow in the footsteps of the bounty manager who previously succeeded in the project they were working on.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: creeps on September 21, 2018, 01:22:00 AM
I believe that this is absolutely impossible, at least for the time being. You are always at risk by investing in ICO. However, I want to say that only those who do nothing do not make mistakes. It is necessary with all responsibility and caution to approach the choice of the project for investment.

The risk of investing with the ICO will always be there, but its good for us to have more things to consider before we invest. Escrow in an ICO is not possible, maybe in the bounty campaign yes but still its not guaranteed that the ICO will succeed, this will depend on the investors if they see big potential on that ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Faraha_JJJ on September 21, 2018, 03:05:33 AM
I ma not sure how to identify a scam 100%, but you can look for the basics like the team behind the project and thier credibility, company registration, aim of the project, thier investors , their whitepaper , look for MVP and source code in github if they have.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: wawanwawan96 on September 21, 2018, 03:22:34 AM
it depends on the team from the beginning they have a long goal whether they only get money from investors and just take personal benefits usually ICOs is good their performance looks real and their project runs and their team or dev work hard to market the project from the start until the ICOs develops and success.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: teosanru on September 21, 2018, 06:33:16 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.

Your guide is not fool proof.
There have been instances when even the non escrowed projects turn out to be legit and all the participants actually receive the money they deserve.
On the other hand, there have been times when even projects managed by good managers have turned out to be scams.
So there is definitely no foolproof guide to choose the right campaign.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: DonFacundo on September 21, 2018, 08:12:16 AM
It's difficult to know which ICOs are scam, some of them looks legit, but they will scam you in the end. Maybe you should look their activities in their social media I think it can help to know if they are legit ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Kristoph on September 21, 2018, 08:16:04 AM
Just read website, white paper, road map and verify team members. Be smart! Dont put money on something wituout value. I suggest to check out Nebula Network website. It's an example of great ICO!


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: maarx on September 21, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.

Your ideas do really help. Good work dude. Yes focus on it along with confirming the below points. Just check out if the company exists in market for minimum a year and have created reputation. A firm with good name in the market, will not cheat or be a scam. Along side, go through project details as well. Lot more to look at. Be more pro active.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: CandyIzDelicious on September 21, 2018, 01:45:47 PM
good info avoiding ico scam but now it's a difficult time to invest ico, as good as not to invest to wait, really the market recovers ...


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: goaldigger on September 21, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
The only way to avoid scam ICO a hundred percent is to not invest on the ICO in the first place. Every opportunity has its own level of riskyness and Scams are the one who is equivalent to ICO. You cannot avoid scams in full but you can reduce the percentage when you encounter them.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: mudyak99 on September 21, 2018, 03:35:24 PM
U can check that ico on topicolist or etc. But i will give you tips for scam ICO (maybe not 100% )
- Website Ico with free domain ex. ga/pl/
- Social Media not real (fake social media )
- No Team on project , No Whitepaper


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: jordanamg on September 21, 2018, 10:28:31 PM
Good Bounty Manager is a Good ICO


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: miningguru on September 22, 2018, 03:08:55 AM
Sometimes everything seems to be perfect which we cannot able to get into conclusion about the ICO company until they scam us. But we have to ask them if we get any doubts about the company, so we have to research ourselves before investing in any company.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: lienfaye on September 22, 2018, 03:27:41 AM
Good Bounty Manager is a Good ICO
You cant guarantee that because some ICO fails even how good the manager who managed their campaign.

Usually the ICOs that promising high profit is likely the scam project so beware and do a proper research before investing.

Nowadays its hard to determine a legit project thus investing in it is risky,  its better to buy tokens that is already listed in reputable exchanges to make sure you wont get scammed.



Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: nadezda@ on September 22, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Do not want to fall for the bait of scammers ,buy tokens after sales ,you can follow the project ,and on the drawdown of the token price to bribe ,sometimes with a more good discount that is offered on the ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AltEvangelist on September 22, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Not sure about escrow since the escrow service would have to be legit too. So 100% guarantees are a hard thing to come by.

But there's a few things that I look for:
1) Webite:
   a) Glaring typos,
   b) Emphasis on "guaranteed success"/"5x price gains"/"soon moon",
   c) Bad UI and font (this is not so major for me since a lot of unicorns started like this),
   d) Generic whitepaper that does not explain the solution/use-case/pain point well,
   e) No links to Media mentions
   f) No LinkedIn/GitHub Profile links for team members (at least Founder and a few Key Members should have profiles linked on website)
2) Social Media:
   a) LinkedIn Profile of team member started recently, has few connections, does not mention education or previous job details much, does not mention the project in their profile itself
   b) Twitter page of project has no noted followers (not a major issue since new projects take time to grow a following)
   c) Telegram group is only an Announcement/Broadcast channel
   d) No GitHub activity in past 3-6 months
Among others.

And most importantly, is having a coin/token absolutely necessary for this project and does it solve a pain point.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AltEvangelist on September 22, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
...sometimes with a more good discount that is offered on the ICO.
Can't agree more on this. Lately, majority of ICOs have seen price dumping action immediately after listing on an exchange. It actually offers better discounts that the discounts on offer during the ICO phases themselves. The FOMO is strong for good ICOs I am sure. But there's a high probability that price will fall after an ICO. Also, the ICO provides a good litmus test of the project; whether they are able to hit the hard cap and are able to prove that there is a demand for the token/coin. So investing after an ICO with more discounts is definitely a win-win.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: MackLewis on September 22, 2018, 12:26:34 PM
The surest way to avoid being scammed is to not invest in an ICO. Once you invest in an ICO, there is always a risk, but in return, there will be plenty of opportunities for you to make a profit from that ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Denton on September 22, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
You can never be 100% sure that the project will not be a fraud. Unfortunately, even if the project has a finished product, it does not mean that such a project will succeed. I would prefer to buy those coins that are already traded on exchanges. This also does not guarantee that it will be a successful investment, but it is still better than buying during the ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Ultimist on September 22, 2018, 08:53:58 PM
I agree with many, you can not be sure that the project will be successful. After some research, you will be able to weed out only frank scam, but what will become of the project in the end will be clear then.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: faza13 on September 22, 2018, 10:43:40 PM

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.


if in an ICO team member there is a member who has joined the ICO Scam, will that be a sign that the ICO is also a SCAM? or it just a sign that we just have to aware of it?


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: natsu01 on September 23, 2018, 03:11:32 AM
The best way is don't invest  :). This year is a difficult year for ICO after the explosion of ICO in 2017.
I agree with you man ! Some investors have their own factors they considered before investing some funds to the ICO projects because they are afraid to be scammed or can't make profits on it but in order to avoid scam ICOs totally , is not to invest on it.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: drachman on September 25, 2018, 09:21:55 PM
Avoiding an ICO scam is very difficult if you can't be careful, we just do a job without any results at all ... to reduce the risk of the ico project that is scam, I usually follow in the footsteps of the bounty manager who previously succeeded in the project they were working on.
Avoiding ico scams 100% of the time is relatively easy you just need to stop investing in icos and you will never be scammed by them again, what it's difficult is to avoid almost all the scams because that means that you are actively investing in them and with 80% of the projects over the past year being scams then it is likely that the icos of this year have a similar proportion of real projects and scam icos, so I will say that is an almost impossible mission to avoid all the scams in this market.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: shpack4 on September 26, 2018, 11:22:18 AM
I agree to the account of the product. If there is a finished product, this already says a lot. but the idea now no one wants to invest


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Resulbil on September 28, 2018, 03:58:46 PM
It's cheaper to get on the exchange. Why the market is in very poor condition, which is falling 10 times. Ico is always fake and unsafe. She needs to recover soon.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: 777Jolami on September 28, 2018, 05:00:00 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.
That is the present challenge. To limit the rate of damage to the value of crypto. https://bitdepositary.io/ (https://bitdepositary.io/) will set a new master form. Where the community is publicly reviewed for any irresponsible and irrelevant project for development. A creative and flexible compared to DAI. Great to have them on the same side of development in this ecosystem.



Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: maarx on September 28, 2018, 07:19:28 PM
Things to look at to avoid scams. Check out for,

Whitepapers
Project details
Team members profiles
Investment amount
It's existence in market
It's partnership with other best firms
It's products
It's reputation in place.

These would define you of scam and legit icos.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: sk hossin on September 28, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
This is very difficult to know and find out if the ICO is a scam. because this year many ico was get scame, before invest any ico you should check there website, whitepaper and there working plan, and also look there team member background & working experience & there trusted rated,


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Denton on September 28, 2018, 09:49:14 PM
Unfortunately, no criteria will help us to find out 100% whether the ICO will be successful or not. Because at any time the team can something go wrong and you will lose your money. But I still agree with your criteria. The main thing is never to miss the fact that you can lose your investment, so invest wisely.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: miropp on September 28, 2018, 09:54:25 PM
In general, I agree with the criteria that you have identified. The most important thing is to have a finished product and a good team. The team plays a big role. Even if the project does not have a product, but there is a cool idea and a strong team that has already proved what it is capable of, then such a project should be trusted.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: deus030518 on September 29, 2018, 02:06:02 AM
To avoid scam ICO is to check their project carefully. You should have a criteria in join the ICOs so that you can avoid the scam. Me I check carefully the ICOs before I join caused there are lots of people doing scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: coin_1122 on September 29, 2018, 03:00:17 AM
Sometimes it is impossible to trace the best ICO because nowadays every ICO seems to perfect but we cannot able to see whether the team has very good experience towards development. For ICO conducting some good companies should come forward to research their details.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Abu Shadow on September 29, 2018, 04:58:30 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups. But in order to avoid it, we just need to invest only in ICOs, which use Escrow. That's it.

No product progress = no money.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.
Can you give us names on those ICO that uses escrow on there project as I never heard about this. I think the best way to get away from scam ICO is not going to invest on them. Mostly ICO price will get dumps once it get listed on exchanges then why invest if you can buy it at exchanges with lower price.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Maymun_lavigne on September 29, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
Escrow on ICO's? I don't think that is impossible, if you are talking about the ico. signature campaign, it is not easy to avoid ICO fraud because even though they have carried out a prize campaign, they still fail in their projects, so your money will be lost forever. currently there is still no guarantee of profit when you invest in ICO, I better to buy tokens after listing on exchanges where tokens are cheaper than when ICO prices are.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Leah38 on September 29, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
On my opinion a good ICO not only offers a working product but also their tokens can already be traded on exchanges even before ICO ends. There are various ICOs out there promising to be added on reputable exchange but just become promises not fulfilled and some ends up scam. You can check SCAVO as an example of an ICO that has tokens that are already traded on exchange.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: andigentho on September 29, 2018, 08:04:26 PM

- Add other parameters what do you think guaranty the success of ICO project.

I want to add a little, hopefully, it can help in choosing ICO or BOUNTY:
- Registered in ICObench: ICOs are rated by experts
- Choose here the high ICO score http://bounty.slavyansk.biz/


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: DR_Vladislav on September 29, 2018, 09:19:41 PM
absolutely you are correct bro.
for me I do my study based first on the team

1. Team : it is very important for any successful project to have a strong team so team will be Committed to road map.
2. Product : IF their is no product ready or halfway ready then the project maybe face problems.
3. Team Team Team a good team can develop, marketing the project, and bring investors into project.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Vieni on September 29, 2018, 10:47:46 PM
Nowadays there are so many ICO's that turned out to be scam. And this is so frustrating especially if you have bought these tokens. So to avoid being scammed, we must consider some points. Check out the whitepaper. If this project has its purpose to solve a system, its technology.  If it has a vision- long term or short term. The team members, their background and dedication.  And last your emotion. If you fear of missing out or you feel excitement of its technology and solution.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Mame89 on September 30, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.
For capital owners, they would prefer to buy coins after being registered in exchange because what usually happens after being listed on the stock exchange price will drop to far below ico's price. However, it is different from the gift hunters who have to spend their time and mind to do the tasks of the prize campaign they follow, so they should be able to select as much detail as possible to avoid the ico project that is a scam before they take it.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: drachman on October 03, 2018, 01:22:32 AM
Things to look at to avoid scams. Check out for,

Whitepapers
Project details
Team members profiles
Investment amount
It's existence in market
It's partnership with other best firms
It's products
It's reputation in place.

These would define you of scam and legit icos.
And even if you do all of that the only thing that you are going to accomplish is to avoid investing in an ico that is a scam, but there are also many coins in the market that eventually fail and that are not scams, do not forget that there are projects that just fail, some projects fail simply because the developers did not had the capabilities of making their vision a reality.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: loayyemen on October 03, 2018, 01:42:45 AM
These terms are available in a w12 project this link project

https://tokensale.w12.io

whitepaper

https://tokensale.w12.io/W12-en.pdf

i think best project and treatmet scam project


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: monkeyking03 on October 03, 2018, 02:01:00 AM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: slaman29 on October 03, 2018, 05:07:07 AM
Escrow is a good idea, but it's not 100% safety for your funds. Why?

1. Escrow could also collude with the developers. Don't just choose an escrow, choose arbitrators who decide whether or not milestones are properly met, and choose smart contract escrow, instead of 3rd party escrow.
2. If products are delivered, but not marketed, or not working as expected then what? You release full funds, as developers deliver product, but who is supposed to continue making it a success?

I know this because I participated in an ICO with escrow. I still lost 50% of my investment, because supposedly products were delivered. I can use it... but for nothing.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: pakupayung on October 03, 2018, 06:53:49 AM
Another parameter is to have an agreement with Exchange - Yes, this is what we often do not find from most previous ICO projects, so that contributors will have little worry about the prospect of the ICO project going forward. We can check it on various ICO review sites or on their White Paper, whether they have pocketed it.
Besides that, it shows the project address or company, their platform organization on their ICO site in a transparent manner, such as: complete or clear address, telephone number that can be contacted, email and so on, ico who intends to scam will not include it.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on October 03, 2018, 05:34:00 PM
To avoid scam ICO is to check their project carefully. You should have a criteria in join the ICOs so that you can avoid the scam. Me I check carefully the ICOs before I join caused there are lots of people doing scam.

It is not possible to secure yourself 100% against scam. Even the observance of all the rules regarding project research will not give such confidence. There can always be a situation that will affect the ICO proves to be a scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: AlekseyCrypto on October 03, 2018, 09:28:39 PM
A lot of projects with strong teams and working prototypes or even a product have become a failed investment this year. The course of all the coins have fallen greatly. I think about the success of the project can be judged in 1-1,5 years after the end of the ICO.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: drachman on October 12, 2018, 02:44:49 AM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Oilacris on October 12, 2018, 03:49:59 AM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.
Successful projects/owners dont really easily achieve that state because it would really need to convince the community to have that kind of support.Achieving success wont really happen just overtime but it would really need lots of factors to be seen until it would able to get such support. You are right that there are serious project owners that do really strive to succeed but difficulties would be faced wont really be that easy.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: doanlang on October 12, 2018, 04:44:14 AM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.
Successful projects/owners dont really easily achieve that state because it would really need to convince the community to have that kind of support.Achieving success wont really happen just overtime but it would really need lots of factors to be seen until it would able to get such support. You are right that there are serious project owners that do really strive to succeed but difficulties would be faced wont really be that easy.
As I know, in theory we will be able to filter out scam ICOS, but later on the more developed the world, the more sophisticated the scams are, so investors will be more cautious.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: MuffinMaster on October 12, 2018, 04:54:18 AM
Escrow is a good idea, but it's not 100% safety for your funds. Why?

1. Escrow could also collude with the developers. Don't just choose an escrow, choose arbitrators who decide whether or not milestones are properly met, and choose smart contract escrow, instead of 3rd party escrow.
2. If products are delivered, but not marketed, or not working as expected then what? You release full funds, as developers deliver product, but who is supposed to continue making it a success?

I know this because I participated in an ICO with escrow. I still lost 50% of my investment, because supposedly products were delivered. I can use it... but for nothing.

You are wrong.

The point of escrow is to be safe third part.

It looks like you need more education in this field, thats why i will give you this links:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.msg46748419#msg46748419

and personal profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18321

Don't even try to discuss that.. ;)

PS. Of course there are other possibilities, but why risk it with you, if there is someone like "Ognasty" ..? C'mon!?!
 


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: JMD07 on October 12, 2018, 01:24:43 PM
A lot of projects with strong teams and working prototypes or even a product have become a failed investment this year. The course of all the coins have fallen greatly. I think about the success of the project can be judged in 1-1,5 years after the end of the ICO.
Yes that's true, if we want to be profitable in ICO we should wait until the team finish the product which this will takes 1 -2 years and we can see a better price once the real product will be available at the target market.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Ninellechka on October 12, 2018, 09:48:38 PM
Nothing can guarantee a 100% success to ICOs. Nothing can help you to avoid scams. The only way not to lose is, as it's been mentioned above, not to invest. Anyway, if you have got good intuition, you might get a better chance to avoid scammers ;)


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: BigBrother on October 12, 2018, 10:06:37 PM
You were right. You can also add other less important criteria, pay attention to the project partners, for example. But in any case, it still can not guarantee us that the project will be successful. There is always a risk.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: felicity06 on October 13, 2018, 04:22:04 AM
Honestly we can't quite determine whether the ICO's are scam or legit if we are looking to their structural components such as white papers, roadmap, social gathering site and others. Because they can (scammers) make a fake ICO's to use for scam activities. However if we have enough knowledge to analyze and distinguish the legit to fake campaigns. Like knowing the all the backgrounds of developers that operates ICO or bounty campaign programs.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: RobinBarker on October 19, 2018, 01:17:30 PM
Check website of project, check roadmap of project, check support availability on telegram group..


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: owned1337 on October 19, 2018, 04:05:24 PM
Firstly check website , take a look on roadmap ,check icobench  , read whitepaper , check soft\hard cap, activity in social networks. U can avoid 90% Scam Icos by doing this simple things.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: CryptoPowerL on October 19, 2018, 04:57:16 PM
The most basic sign of how easy it is to calculate a scam is to check the project team. Often use photos of very different people, these people do not even suspect that their photo is used somewhere. Search by photo can be carried out in Google


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Lanatsa on October 19, 2018, 07:57:45 PM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.
Successful projects/owners dont really easily achieve that state because it would really need to convince the community to have that kind of support.Achieving success wont really happen just overtime but it would really need lots of factors to be seen until it would able to get such support. You are right that there are serious project owners that do really strive to succeed but difficulties would be faced wont really be that easy.
As I know, in theory we will be able to filter out scam ICOS, but later on the more developed the world, the more sophisticated the scams are, so investors will be more cautious.
When they are busted out then it would just create another one which is more convincing and looks real.The only solution on this problem is to have a regulation with these ICO's and filter out on having
a legit developer team behind it rather than on anonymous ones and with this way I'm rest assure it will really decrease out fraud projects.I don't see any other way.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: maarx on October 19, 2018, 07:58:09 PM
We cannot avoid hundred percent, before you investing in an ICO check the project details fully, study the road map, I white paper, team members, team manager.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Master1781 on October 19, 2018, 07:59:32 PM
In 2016, when ICO trend was starting. Almost every startup was using Escrow. But then the hype was so huge that ICOs decided dont use it and it was a fault. Now investors dont believe even to good projects.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Rune on October 19, 2018, 08:11:55 PM
There is no way to be 100% secure vs a scam if your looking to invest your money but you can help avoid some of the obvious ones.

I always like to make sure if I'm investing in something I have some way to talk to the developer I like to see the people I am investing in even if it is just a short text chat.

Don't invest in something if the so called dev did not even start making it yet in other words don't invest in ideas you need to see some kind of started project that you can actually see code or a app  not just some white paper with a idea.

If you see a track record of excellence then you can look at there roadmap then make sure your getting a good deal Low market cap means more returns if they do succeed in doing whats in there roadmap.
Also low market cap means you don't need to invest as much lowering your risk another good thing


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: DOH! on October 19, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
When you invest, you have to take risks, so 100% can not be avoided. To limit risk, investors must study and analyze carefully before making investment decisions. Every wrong decision leads to bad results.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Darthflux14 on October 20, 2018, 06:35:19 AM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.

Agreed with you, even some ICO's have escrowed their bounty campaign, we still didn't know if it would be a scam after they finish their ICO. And Some other ICO's still turned into a scam even their project is successfully ended. And some ICO's successfully ended but when listing on an exchanger their value is so low and not even met their ICO price.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Kriptosoul on October 20, 2018, 10:52:32 AM
You just need to study more information about the bounty, in particular their project and what the team is going to, otherwise you will not have a complete picture of what is happening.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: princehandsome on October 20, 2018, 11:44:08 AM
it's hard to know 100% ICO scams, because it that's all depends on the details of the project itself. sometimes the ICO project that we follow looks promising but suddenly stopped or there is someone gives information if that's the ICO is a scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Rannoch on October 20, 2018, 11:55:19 AM
Nigerian scammer who uses -  emilyjoe9090@gmail.com

 He sends fake PayPal receipts, known to try and scam on Gumtree, a real idiot  Cheesy


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: boranes on October 20, 2018, 12:00:11 PM
Escrow won't protect you and it is not guaranty that you will see all your money back. There are too many factors included in it. I don't think I have seen ICO's collecting money and using escrow, maybe only few of them, if you seek for team who is escrowing funds you will probably invest in 0.01% icos.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: bitcoin31 on October 20, 2018, 02:19:55 PM
There is no 100 sure that you can avoid scam ICO. Because most of ICO now are scam or not good to invest. You can prevent scam ICO by doing a research but not means that ICo is legit because possible also you can invested to ICO still scam because sometimes it's hard to find out what is legit or scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Rannoch on October 21, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
Nigerian scammer who uses -  emilyjoe9090@gmail.com

 He sends fake PayPal receipts, known to try and scam on Gumtree, a real idiot  Cheesy


Lookout for - paypaiservicesfund@gmail.com

Nigerian idiot who pretends to be a sick old lady lol


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: BintangBuleun on October 21, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups.
I disagree with this statement, because many ICOs are successful at this time.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.
Yes, I agree with this, because with the ICO product, the project can run smoothly. This means that there is a coin turnaround quickly.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Yana_O1993 on October 21, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
very often projects that did not offer hope collected large sums and made large bounty payments


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: DR_Vladislav on October 22, 2018, 12:23:25 AM
Thier is nothing like 100% is not scam.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: therhslv on October 22, 2018, 12:31:30 AM
There is no 100% chance to avoid them , but you can make it less risky by studying project more closely . Lets say check all the team profiles on google , google the company name . Check domain names on WHOIS and so on . Ofcourse there is no guarantee that they will not flee away after collecting ICO funds , but atleast thats how im doing it . Currently didn't burn myself so far . Got burned only by market situation , cus all my tokens/coins are way under ICO price lol


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: TheAndy500 on October 22, 2018, 12:31:35 AM
People we are all arguing that 80-90% of projects are scam startups.
I disagree with this statement, because many ICOs are successful at this time.

In addition to the Escrow usage there are some other signs of a good project:

- Working product (or a highly developed prototype) availability
  It proves that the team already invested its own time and resources in their idea.

- Reputable member in the team or advisors section.
  It must be a person whose previous projects were successful.
Yes, I agree with this, because with the ICO product, the project can run smoothly. This means that there is a coin turnaround quickly.

80-90% is scam..?! I don't think so. With the current market situation, many of them have failed to achieve the minimum to start (softcap) but if we add even those, it will not be 80%

The two things you mentioned are definitely the most important for the project to go well. However, I do not agree on the escrow. It could work, but only if the development team had the amount to secure the whole, but then they would not need ICO, right?

I think that hedge funds can be an interesting solution - for example: https://dehedge.com/


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: andylioe78 on October 22, 2018, 01:54:15 AM
To avoid fraud, I try to choose projects carefully, taking into account documentation and checking their teams


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: drachman on October 23, 2018, 03:07:13 AM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.
Successful projects/owners dont really easily achieve that state because it would really need to convince the community to have that kind of support.Achieving success wont really happen just overtime but it would really need lots of factors to be seen until it would able to get such support. You are right that there are serious project owners that do really strive to succeed but difficulties would be faced wont really be that easy.
This is especially true at a moment like this where the market of cryptocurrencies is not really growing and where it may seem like we are not going to see a bull market in a long time, so many developers are facing a terrible choice, do they try to start their project even when no one seems to want to invest in it or do they wait? But if they do wait then it is possible another project gets a first move advantage over them.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Hamphser on October 23, 2018, 08:12:44 PM
To make 100% to avoid scam is impossible because even the good project can turn into scam if one of their team member do,but you can prevent it by doing some research of the project you want to invest,escrow for an ICO i think it is not posible.
Also not all the projects that fail are scams, you just need to look at the world of businesses to know that most of them fail even if the owners had all the desire to become successful, and the same applies to the ico market, there are many good persons out there that are trying to develop something new but they are underestimating the difficulty and the costs that it will take and so the project will eventually fail.
Successful projects/owners dont really easily achieve that state because it would really need to convince the community to have that kind of support.Achieving success wont really happen just overtime but it would really need lots of factors to be seen until it would able to get such support. You are right that there are serious project owners that do really strive to succeed but difficulties would be faced wont really be that easy.
This is especially true at a moment like this where the market of cryptocurrencies is not really growing and where it may seem like we are not going to see a bull market in a long time, so many developers are facing a terrible choice, do they try to start their project even when no one seems to want to invest in it or do they wait? But if they do wait then it is possible another project gets a first move advantage over them.
Its just an option if the team or project would decide to pause or wait for the right time but as you said there would be a possibility that other projects that do have similar
feature on yours will cover you up and might get the interest to be funded which is really a disastrous thing.We have seen projects tends or decides to extend their ICO sale
and for the reason which market is really on bearish mode and most investors are hesitant and afraid.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: upsidedown75 on October 24, 2018, 12:25:55 PM
Escrow on ICO’s? I think its not possible not unless you are talking about signature/bounty campaign. It’s still hard to avoid scam ICO’s because even they have escrowed bounty campaign they still failed on their project after that, so your money will be loss for good. There is still no guaranteed profit when you invest on ICO, for me its better to buy token after listing on the exchange where token is more cheaper than the ICO price.

Agreed with you, even some ICO's have escrowed their bounty campaign, we still didn't know if it would be a scam after they finish their ICO. And Some other ICO's still turned into a scam even their project is successfully ended. And some ICO's successfully ended but when listing on an exchanger their value is so low and not even met their ICO price.
Anyone can just start a smart contract and have some tokens generated but that does not stop them from being scams, so it is not just about escrowing the tokens. One thing that is essential when it comes to ICOs is to just make sure you do a very good due diligence on the team, their competence, their past achievements and then look at the present moment and the possibility of them achieving what they are stating and above all, you really do not want to leave out the product availability as that is the main essential thing and not just some empty promises.

Even if I like the team and they are all just about empty promises, I would prefer to just chill, hit the exchange, keep monitoring their progress and when I see they have been able to come up with something realistic and tangible, then, they will earn my full trust.


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: Resulbil on October 24, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
Scams lot of time, more çoğalacaklar. Safe company quite difficult to find. I think a little chance to work in this work. Over time, everything is good and safe will be


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: jupppo on October 24, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
I don't agree with you. Escrow is usually fake. No normal project will give permission to somebody to control them. It's stupid. But for investors like you it seems a good sign so you will invest in this project


Title: Re: HOW to 100% avoid SCAM ICOs
Post by: gtglener on October 25, 2018, 12:23:23 PM
To avoid fraud, I try to choose projects carefully, taking into account documentation and checking their teams
That should always be the main step when it comes to choosing a project you want to invest in, which is a careful consideration on what the project entails in all, as well as their long term prospect based on the team and their ability to be able to come up with something strong and useful, as well as the minimum viable product they have been able to work on at the moment.

Documents are just thereby, they can be cloned, and they cannot be fully reliable even though they should us the business solutions, but what you really want to be looking at mostly is the team potential as well as the product potential.