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Different reaction came out from different members about selection of new moderators. Main thread about User nominated names of possible moderators for forum. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.0) Original post has been locked. This voting only thought of members of forum. I believe those are in above list they are helping forum to keep spam free.

Final decision have to take by theymos. He know better than from us who is be best for moderation of forum. This poll is just for get attention of theymos for give priority to assign new moderators of forum. Although this voting isn't hold any weight, but it's true that we need more moderators for forum.

Waiting for theymos opinion.....  

I'd be a really bad mod. Thanks for suggesting me, but I'd be grateful if you could take me off the list.

Being a mod would stop me supporting the board in other ways I suspect.

One of the points that was made in the other thread is that becoming a moderator isn't a popularity contest--and it's true.  The other factor is that said popularity contest means nothing when Theymos is the one who has to decide if new mods are hired and who they'll be.  He could probably care less who gets nominated or who the most popular candidates are.

Also, I've said that I don't want to be a mod and I mean it.  Voting for me would be completely unnecessary.  Remember how Meta was back when actmyname and I were tagging shitposters?  If I were a mod and had some actual authority and autonomy, my moderated section would probably look like ground zero after a nuclear strike, and no doubt the nuke-ees would be starting endless threads and complaining about it.  It's not going to happen and I don't even want the job anyway.  

Kind of the same for me, though I just don't want to be a tyrant and I think it would diminish my enjoyment of bitcointalk.  There are other members here who would be much better at it than I would.  

Edit:  Despite what I said, I voted anyway.

Its not my thought anyway. Most of members want see you as well. I like to keep your name too.


Complain will never end. We don't know about theymos opinion but it's true he will assign future. Because huge members/spammers joining everyday.

Let the record state that I didn't vote for myself. But I had to vote to be able to see the results.

On the basis of this - I think I'll vote for you. :)

My vote for Jet cash for Beginners and Help Board as he is active there and  B and H is a beginning point of anybody. Leaving that section unchecked is only invitation to get the spam problem more worse.

I am noticing necro posting in B&H where newbies are replying on 6 month old posts without anything substantial to add.


For Moderators selection, I will say they need to be selected on their suitability to the particular section/sub section that need moderator  not by their overall popularity.

Although I am sure that this vote will not produce results[1], I will vote for the following:

 - LoyceV for Bitcoin Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0): [2] [3]
 - marlboroza for Altcoin Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0): Active member in identifying scam projects.
 - suchmoon or ibminer for Trading Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0)/Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0): [4] [5]
 - Vod for Off-topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=9.0)
I apologize for adding a new name to your list.

[1] [Unofficial] New Global Moderator Election - [Voting] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1685557.0)
[2] Examples of Spam Megathreads: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.msg22355828#msg22355828)
[3] Mod, please check new plagiarism: Reporting copy/pasting, please permban (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0)
[4] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.msg34022229#msg34022229
[5] Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0)

Voted for Loyce & The Pharmacist

I don't think that this poll will matters but at least we can see what the community things about it.
Just for the record, my votes are for Vod, LoyceV, TP, JC, suchmoon.

I'd give you A+ for enthusiasm, but your direction seems a little misguided here.  Partly because this doesn't seem like the kind of decision that would be influenced by a poll.  But mostly because you're including people who have aleady stated unequivocally that they don't want the job.  So if you have done this in the full knowledge that the "vote" is pointless and the whole idea is just to pester theymos, this probably isn't the most constructive approach.

+1 for the nuke :D

I don't know why we need to preserve all the shitposts everywhere on the forum...
Maybe if we just nuke 50% of the forum at once, people will start to think about the situation, and only spammers would leave the place quickly... If we do nothing, spammers will stay but valuable members will leave slowly...

Simply voted for these guys:

-LoyceV
-Jet Cash
-The Pharmacist
-Vod
-marlboroza

A good sense of humour has a lot of things to do in moderating a section/board ;) I guess these guys should have the honor to do the tasks and also can be trusted in the mean time as long as they're alive giving a damn punishments to those shitty bastards that keeps on spamming every boards here on the forum ;D

As for Jet Cash, I think the IGNORE LISTS  of him will be flooded by many user accounts as well as The Pharmacist's ULTRA NEGA BOOSTER :D ( Getting excited of seeing RED Colors Everyday ;) even though he doesn't want the job... )

Mods are considered to be volunteers and are no way related to being to being the leaders of the community. They are just spam hunters in a legal way. Most of your poll members are popular enough to become a MOD. But being that isn't enough. They should have huge amount of reports in the particular board in which they are being appointed. The user should have gained trust from the community and theymos himself for being appointed. Do you remember rickbig? He isn't much popular but is a very active reporter who just deserved the position of global MOD.  When he was elected, there were very few members who know about him. This shows that just being popular isn't enough to get appointed.

Lutpin might be the top reporter in reporters table based on last year's stats given by theymos. LoyceV has proved themselves to be really trustworthy and is evident from the 10 month altcoin investment and campaigns he conducted during these days. Moreover he is one of the most active reporters who can be considered as a MOD. I don't think we need to put much pressure on JC by appointing him as a MOD as he is already busy with his fit to talk and other projects in educating the newbies and teaching English to non-English people. Vod has been a great asset to the community right from the early days of the forum who can be considered a MOD

P.S This poll may not be considered, but it helps to get a view on what members think about these people.

I think additional moderator would help a lot on this community. I feel so sad that jetcash didn't want to be a moderator because it really fits him. The rest of the nominees are really active and contributing members they really fit being a moderator.

Voted for LoyceV, The Pharmacist, Vod and theyoungmillionaire. If there is one vote I will vote for LoyceV.

This thread has given me an idea. Instead of ignoring posters, I might appoint myself a "warner", and I'll pm members and ask them to stop certain practices. These could include.

- All caps titles
- Full quotes in replies
- large redundant images
- necro-bumping

I'm not sure if it will have any effect, but maybe a few will take some notice.

As much as I appreciate the endorcement, your reasoning is incorrect:
[2] I didn't create the Spam Megathread list after visiting Bitcoin Discussion, I created it from the post history of a few applicants who were accepted in a new (at that time high paying) signature campaign.
[3] Although some of the plagiarism reports are in Bitcoin Discussion, it's never been my main area to read. That can change once the spam is gone, and I would be willing to take on that "job", but as long as the board is in it's current state, I'll mostly ignore it.

I love marlboroza's very detailed analyses of scammers, but since scams aren't moderated, he wouldn't be able to do anything more with Mod powers.

If you report those, they get their warning in the form of a deleted post.

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More full disclosure: I voted too, to see the results :D I didn't select more than 5 options in total, but the "Total Voters" is now one higher than it should have been.
LoyceMobile voted for marlboroza and suchmoon.
LoyceV voted for The Pharmacist. I did this because he doesn't want to be a Mod anyway, which made it a safe pick to be able to see the results on this account.

I'm sure it will have an effect. Because I still remember when I have joined the forum I also did the full quotes in replies, but with the time I have learned it shouldn't do even its not violated any forum rules. So I have learned so many things from you but I still didn't agree with you regarding the posting images in a thread. I would agree with you if those images are large redundant images as you stated, but not with other scenarios where sometimes a picture can explain what 1000 words cannot.

Anyway sending a PM before you add the user to your ignore list would be great and anybody here doesn't want to be included in your ignore list.

Strongly agree. I did it with few user. If ignore that means you just avoid. There is low chance to correction for user who did mistake. If you send PM to someone with mistake point , it's pretty sure he will try to correction himself (IMO).

Jet Aid - first aid for posters

I am an alt of Jet Cash, and my aim is to help in the sanitisation of the forum. I am an alternative to the big sticks of the moderators, and I offer carrots to the responsible new members who just need a bit of advice. I've got the Jet Cash merit bank to help me encourage good posting habits. My reaction to a big stick threat is to try to find a bigger stick, but carrots make me reflect and try to improve myself. I'll put together some support pages, and have a look at the beginners forum today.

Bots and TwitBook spammers are not going to be helped if I detect them.

Moderator for what? A patroller? Probably some of the best choices for staff likely aren't even on this shortlist and is why popularity isn't the best quantifier. Sure, those who are very active and helpful within the community should be taken into consideration, but it's the accurate reporting showing you're aware of the rules that is usually the better identifier of suitability. As we've seen, some of the most popular amongst the community aren't even interested in the position either. Choosing mods for sub boards should obviously be chosen from the users who are most active in reporting within there and only theymos has access to that info.


rickbig is a perfect example. He wasn't much of an active poster at all, but he was reporting an insane amount of posts. Every morning when I woke up there was often dozens upon dozens of reports by him on spambots and often times they had been in the queue for hours and could be still there for many more if I didn't get round to them or was out that morning. That's why it made perfect sense to have him on board. He frees up time from current mods and doesn't have to waste time reporting bots when he could just nuke them himself. He then rose rapidly to Global because he was still very active in reporting and it made sense for him to be a Global (and still despite being very active in actually posting). He's now probably amongst the top handlers of reports (though I can't be certain and only theymos will have access to those stats and that's why he is the best one suited to choosing new staff members). Maybe one day he might even become an admin. Who knows.

Honestly, I don't know how you find the patience for this. After reading spam comment after spam comment, my only two options are to report everything or just unwatch the thread and never return. Props once again.

You've got a typo in your personal message.

Thanks for pointing out that f'in message. :)

To make sure it's better to leave a feedback from you original ( Jet Cash ) account to Jet Aid. So who whoever visit this profile they can easily understand who is that. Anyway you are doing good job.

I can be a noisy bugger, and I expect most people will know soon enough. Anyway Jet Aid is getting a directory all to himself on the Jet Cash website.

https://jetcash.com/ - watch for the link to appear soon. I've got too many domains, so I didn't even look to see if Jet Aid is available. Actually Jet Aid is a bit historic. It's the first Internet sobriquet that I've used when I don't own the domain name.

I wanted something that started with "jet" to make things obvious.

I think all of them are great moderators on the bitcointalk forums.
I choose TMan because he censors the best quality and awards merit to encourage their efforts.
https://i.imgur.com/Mf5CWRc.png

TMan was promoted to legend on April 23, Just behind the founders bitcointalk forum is satoshi
Increase the article reference rank: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4850225.0

I agree that TMAN should be a Legendary, but at the moment he is still a Hero. Becoming a Legendary is a lottery for some reason.

Why not Jetcoin  ;)   or Jetforum  :)

Yeah, this seems more of a popularity contest. A few members up here I haven't even seen a report from. Plus, there's a few other members who aren't vocal about their reporting, but report a lot. I think in these circumstances without data of the top reporters in the specific sections we can't really nominate anyone because of the lack of insight.

The emphasis should be on help and encouragement. If one is commenting on a post structure, then one is unlikely to award it with merits.

Jet Aid provides Bandaids for posts, mods provide them for the posters' mouths.

At first I thought this was just a somekind of fan of JET CASH, because I think TalkMerit is enough to do another job. Oh well, sorry for judging your username in a wrong way of thinking. I really thought that this was just an alt of some shitty bastard that wants to earn Merits by licking the ass of Jet Cash.

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So you're saying that the user account's on Jet Cash's Ignore list will have its second chance like marlboroza did on giving red trust?...
Hope that it will also work...

Jet Aid was an impulse registration as a result of this thread. As I mentioned, most of the mod actions are punishments, and even the merit sytem was designed to create a barrier to ranking. Many members are helpful, but as far as I know, no member has tried an active policy of helping new members to maximise their experience here. There are numerous guides and helpful posts for various aspects of membership, but I don't believe that anyone has taken a holistic approach to forum membership.

Come on chipmixer campaigners, now is the time to prove your shilling skills. Prove that you're better than QS(at shilling) and abuse this vote, and make all the 5 chipmixer shills in the nominees, a mod, lol.

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Jokes all aside, I have the least number of reports in comparison to everyone else in the "nominees". If I ever become a mod, I'd be a living hell for the shitposters in that board. I'll mostly go on a nuking spree, and delete the unnecessary posts. I don't really report because it's double work. But when there are better reporters, I think they deserve to be a mod more than me.

A few members are missing out, especially Krishanapramod, mdayonliner, ,xtraelv, Lafu, iasenko(These people more than 1000 reports IIRC).

I have to ask what's probably a stupid question, but how can I tell how many reports other members have made?  Is there a way to do that?  I know how to view my own number, but I've never seen a link to any statistics on anybody else.  

Thanks, that's what I thought but I've been known to miss important things here before.

No, pugman assumes that he has the least number of reports but you cannot check that, if the data is not publicly announced as theymos has done a few times before.  As far as I know there are no up-to-date lists of the top reporters.

It would be cool if there is a sound alarm to the nuke feature like this for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XpImo80neo

I would have thought that I had the fewest.

and I don't agree that the bad ones were bad either. :)

That's what get for ignoring so many users! Even I have more:

I want to publish the list, and use my appeals process, but I keep starting new projects.

Fit to Talk English needs a bit of a booster as well. I've got to many unawarded merits at the moment.

I’d say that the ball is really still on the "where" and "when" area, rather than the "who". The former two questions are the important ones, alongside with the determination to go through with them. The “who” should be easily derivable from inner reporting stats, and voting on a poll should be amusing but probably render small no null results as outcome.

A moderator in certain context such as a debate is a nice position to have, and has a certain ring to it. Moderating a forum is a different thing, and on a forum such as this one, with all the spam, the attributions are less rewarding and more demanding in terms of stamina, stealth, criteria, and being able to deal with a cesspit of posts on a daily basis. Moderating here is a necessary task, albeit I gather not too rewarding.

I would presume that those people with a lengthy, accurate and stable track of reporting are better suited. That is not my case, since I report only what I encounter and that I’m pretty sure on. I do filter topics I read by number of posts in the thread, generally excluding any thread with more than 30 or so posts, or that has a non-appealing title, so I probably miss-out a fare share of spam that is easily detectable but that I do not encounter.

Perhaps quite a bit can be still done to aid reporting/mods in terms of automation and setting barriers to incessant spam in the first place, being more proactive than reactive. The latter is being pursued by @hilariousetc with resilience, and some of the proposals would certainly pull the plug and allow the pool to be drained to some extent, easing the task of the moderators. 

I think it is also useful to focus on the positive as well as the negative. Converting a problem poster into an asset is another way to reduce the load on the mods.

I know it won't work with the bots and the TwitBook spammers, but there are others that could be encouraged into better posting.

Dogs that bark do not bite.... And you are right. It's not about "popularity". And it is not about fame. I think mods have to be hard workers. And it is important that they "don't" do business here. Because this could lead to a trust problem.

Plenty of past, and present staff members have done business though. John K for example had a pretty popular escrow service. Maybe, its a good idea. But, at the end of the day if they can't be trusted in business deals then can they be trusted on forum moderation? So, honestly I don't see the point of putting restrictions on staff members doing business on the forum.

That would have to be determined on an individual basis I guess.

I am not aware of any restrictions on mods business activities on the forum.  Why can't a mod do business on here?

I bought quite a number of things now from the forum and I am also involved in an ICO, does this mean I shouldn't be a mod?

please read carefully. i wrote this COULD lead to a trust problem. if a mod has a service x and deletes post of service y that offers a similar product. then this may be a problem. it could be a problem even if erasing is justified. because servcie y made a "mistake". the position of the mod could be questioned. and that could lead to all decisions of the mods being questioned so that only unnecessary discussion will arise. => ∞

Moderators are regularly questioned anyway. Its just the normal thing to do when people are butt hurt. If a moderator removes a service in a space which they are competing in then theymos could look into it, and see if they had a reason to remove it. But, at the end of the day the mod offering the service could leave it for another mod to deal with to avoid any conflict of interest.

Nah.. no way.

I am probably with the second least reports:

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In all honesty, kudos to all the users who have reported more than 300 posts. Like, dedicating time to something that has no return personally,and yet doing it,is not something everybody does.

OP, how long is the voting for? Not that it matters, but just curious.

Right but you also said

It's important you don't eat food because it could lead to choking.

mdayonliner ? Is this a joke ?
Don't you have to know just a little bit about crypto to be a mod on a crypto forum ?
The guy thinks EOS is an ERC20 token :




He also has to ask why ETH prices have been falling lately :


Keen to understand the market ? You got a long way to go mate.
Everyone knows projects have been dumping their ETHs.

The guy's a joke who's only good at kissing asses in meta. And yeah, giving mod powers to a guy everybody hates would be a great idea lol.  ::)

No one nominated them. Someone mentioned iasenko is much busy he can't spend much time so I exclude him. Btw it's look like theymos will not reply here.

Whether mod powers are given or not to the @mdayonliner is another debate, but that guy is not an everybody hates. Don't generalize or taking decisions regarding a user by just quoting only two posts. Because I have seen that he has helped a lot of newbies/Jr.members and created good informative threads. It's quite obvious and takes only a few minutes to identify who is the one-liner here by looking at post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1714677) :D

I see that Lutpin is usually mentioned but I think he’s been too busy lately and I don’t know if he wanted to be a moderator either.

Not everybody wants to be a mod:


Is Lutpin reporting as much as before?

I simply voted vod based on  my following criteria.

- knowledge
- experience
- Entertaining
- for his decision making
- Fairness

Tho one thing that does not satisfy my interest is that
 If he is interested

There are multiple user's who wouldn't like me to be the mod or even patroller. I am good with being a volunteer. Not good with technicality, that leaves me with two boards, discussion and economics to express my opinion. I am just reporting so I can express. And Loyce V, haven't seen the guy get involved in forum politics, like welsh and really helpful with a stable/sensible head. He deserves it.

Well, I voted for young, pharmacist, Loyce, Vod and suchmoon.

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As for Theyoungmillionaire, as I know he/she's a Filipino/a, He could really be a big addition to the team of Mods especially in Philippines local board. Given the criteria above, I personally think that he/she really met all of those. Also, In addition, Given the situation that some of the concern in Philippine local board are not being address accordingly, I'm not saying that current mods aren't doing their jobs but hence I think that there are a lot of a much bigger issues that they needed to attend to, An additional mod could help out in the distribution of work, and he/she might focus on some of the concerns of Filipino members.

For The Pharmacists and Vod, Given that they are two of the most knowledgeable and intriguing members of the forum which also fits or over qualified in the criteria provided (A lot would probably react on the fairness section, but these two can really defend there judgement). They are both good addition to the team, I must say they could really have a big impact to the community, A bastards that don't really give a shit to what others think of them as long as they know that it's for the betterment of the forum. *sorry for the term, I used*

For LoyceV and Suchmoon, Same as the above, though a less tough one. Both have different approach in handling cases and they are really knowledgeable and experienced in this industry. Which really fits the criteria.

I voted for theyoungmillionaire (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180530), We know that he deserves it and somehow he/she can do such things like moderating a forum. Well, we call him/her Silent hero because of his unbelievable works behind the scenes and it's really obvious that he can do it.  I don't think if he/she wanted to be a Moderator because I remember that he/she is okay of being a "Silent Hero" but maybe he/she will accept position (If he/she is accepted by theymos but as of now, theymos didn't notice the existing thread) because the improvement and development of the local is his/her top priority.

If our higher-ups didn't notice my suggestions for the improvement of the Local board then maybe someone will help us and I hope that "someone" will come soon.  ???


Yeah, additional moderator would fit in but each board only consists 2 moderators only except for Mining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.0) that is moderated by gmaxwell (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11425), -ck (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19971) and frodocooper (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=988740) since mining is also an international section so it's okay to have a 3 mods there. It's either to remove one of our local mods or having an additional of one moderator in our local (It looks like our local board can't handled by 2 people). One of our local moderator is also an Global Mod so it's really complicated to add or to remove.


There are so many suggestions for the local that has been posted there but people don't show any care, they keep posting in the thread but some of them are just pretentious, they are there because of the post counts. If those topics are being noticed by the highers maybe our local is a good section to start a day (I'm not saying our local is bad, it's really hard to start a post when there are so many shitposters, do you feel it?).

What "users" think mostly won't matter, because they just aren't happy because things might not have turned that way. There's not much technicality in this forum, in terms of modding, you'll probably get the gist of it when/if you become a staff member. Obviously Loyce and Welsh deserve/d to be a mod, and they have had my support for quite a while now. 1 or 2 mods, won't curb down the entire spam. If mods are given more (paid)incentives, and reporters get more of non-paid incentives, then the spam is gonna go down. Otherwise, people would just moderating for formality purposes, if that makes sense?

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No. I was suggesting people who have more than 1000 reports, and I have seen them publicly revealing that. I forgot to nominate foxpup too.  :-\

FTFY.

Not necessarily though. You think all mods have a diverse knowledge of how bitcoin and crypto works,equivalent to the level of knowledge that achow101/gmaxwell/nullius/theymos/other geeks possess? It depends on which board they moderate,and it depends on how their judgement is based.

Idk about hate, I don't give a shit about it, and I am not somebody who gives people power. Who do you think I am? Odin?  :o

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Ref 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.msg45391692#msg45391692

Its alright though, you might have missed it, I am not blaming you.

But I don't know if anyone is taking this poll seriously, for I was "nominated".  :-[

That is a big bold claim LOL. Honestly speaking, I had no idea that deleting a post from a self moderated thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025937.0)  could bring this much hate!  :P

Earning hate is much more easier then earning love (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025152.msg45518588#msg45518588) now a days, I get it Ms. Karisma (guessing the gander¹ gender from the name of-course). Thank you vphasitha01 and other well wishers.

¹ Reminds me LoyceV  ;D

:o Is it a complement?

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You are correct mate.

https://i.imgur.com/43hGe86.png
Thanks for the mention. I am no nearer than some of the legends here. (I hope this does not generalize an asskissing LOL) I am happy being a side dish LOL

But didn't you delete my post after I posted here ? So who's hating ? ;D
Sorry little man, I don't know you and don't care about you. I'm just stating facts. Everybody (well the ones who care) knows you're a tool.
Why is ETH's price falling lol ? Seriously ?



I dare you to find one, just one instructive post about crypto on his part.
All he does is post in meta, kissing up to the big guys.

Which makes me wonder, what kind of fucked up people give 268 merits to a guy that never posts anything... related to what this place is about ?

You guys should get out of meta, you would notice a few things:
-Theymos doesn't give a flying fuck about you. He doesn't know who iasenko, vaphashita, mdayonliner or dmdrdr are.
-He isn't the only one. Who gives you the right to chose who could or could not be a mod. 99% of the members here never come to meta and they don't know any of the names mentioned here (63 votes ? Wow !). Why ? Because they're here to talk about crypto !
-There are many knowledgeable people here... who don't post on meta. Stop masturbating each others, sending merits to each others and participate to this god damn place. Stop thinking you're the saviors of this place, your contribution is close to zero !


Don't worry about me phaphashita, I'm here to read, learn and have a little fun (mostly reading guys like you), not to get taps on my back (you call that merits am I right ?) from people like you.

I am not going to argue here since you are not acting right however I want to clear this...

I am not sure when did I delete your post (after or before you post it here, I deleted your post from my self mod topic along with many other posts when I noticed them and I responded you when I found out this post here as well using the search which I do very often to see if anyone mentioned me) but I can assure you one thing that I have no Hate for you.

Good luck. Have a nice journey here.

PS: Life is very beautiful and you have it for once. Try to enjoy it a bit.

Thanks

Agree fully with Hillarious.

You need some special skills to be a moderator. One of them is reporting because this is a perfect measure but not only.
If member report dozen of abusers in his spare time without any incentive and is doing a great job with very high accuracy then this is really good indicator that he would be a great moderator but still, he should start from patrol rank or even be supervised for some time by established moderator who will check his actions in first weeks of his work to avoid abuse and stupid mistakes which can bring more harm than good for BTT members.

I see this lists wich OP put together and I know that all these members are well recognized and very popular because they are involved in almost all the most important threads regarding this forum but that does not mean that they will be good moderators and that they have the necessary qualifications and time for this job.

Actually, I have almost 2,5k posts reported with 100% accuracy and only 14 bad (which I get at the start). I would be glad to help to clean this forum as a volunteer or patroller but from what I see there is no way to apply for this task only you have to be chosen by staff members.

I think there should be a thread where members can apply for such tasks. This would be fairer.
There are a lot of members like me which are here a few years long, know a lot about crypto, post quality content, fight spam and abuse but don't have friends between forum staff members and don't post in every thread on meta, reputation or scam section to be recognized or just to butter up.

After searching moderators on each board, I found out Xal0lex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1068464) is a moderator of the russian board and he/she becomes a Sr. Member last august 12.

So it's really possible for theyoungmillionaire (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180530) to be a moderator also of our Local board(Philippines) deym.

I became a mod at Senior I think, and rank isn't that relevant, but the longer you've been here the better, especially if you're very, very active but the number of reports you're making should be the biggest factor. The Philippines board already has two mods and Rickbig is very active here so not sure if it desperately needs another, but we do need more patrollers and dedicated sub board mods. 

If the selection really happens, then Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion boards would require more mods, and Economics section definitely needs a mod or two. These are the most annoyingly crowded boards on the forum which probably require a lot of attention and clean up. Other than that, Beginners & Help can use one more mod along with Flying Hellfish (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79608) too.

Apparently they aren't very active in their board, so I have been told. That board doesn't have enough merit sources too ,it seems.

We need mods for a lot of boards, but is there any use for us to complain and just complain?

We also need more people reporting in the Altcoin Discussion section. Most of my reports come from newbie posts in various different sections(patroller), and then the announcement, and tokens sections. The rest of the sub sections don't really have that many reports.

@Welsh

PM the sub sections i take a look for it if i got the time !  

But i cant be everywhere lol   :P    :D   ;D

Reports in the Philippines isn't that big that it needs another mod, besides,Dabs is still active... Some of the posters there are probably just talking to themselves, or  a group of people from facebook bringing in their conversations here...

Regarding merits, I don't think that you have to give each one of them posting "guides" when they see someone posting and you merit the OP... Otherwise everyone would just create their own "guides" and "tips" to earn merit...


It is because it is easier to spot a bot...

We need more reports from boards where you are not reporting right now...  ::)

Good Day Mr. rickbig41
How can you be so sure that Filipinos are just talking to themselves and bringing their own conversation from social media into the the forum?

I do understand that 2 active moderators are enough in moderating our local section, but I think that moderating, moving threads and deleting posts is still not enough to improve our little section. We need cooperation and interactions from our own moderators.

Merit for Jr. Member and additional merit source has been implemented. I think it's time to add more moderator. Theymos should consider about it since some of moderators inactive and few board have no moderators.

Bump, I will locked voting and thread tomorrow and I will present result for theymos. Perhaps he could select some of them.

Just leave it same as now. May be it will help admin to choose moderators if need any.

I think now, after the change and the new restriction the situation is much better. I don't really think new moderators /in the English section at least/ are needed. I think we need more time to see if is still needed.

Wow - just became aware of this thread and I am honored that I am ranked second behind LoyceV!  

I feel I am already an unpaid moderator.  I leave damning remarks, hand out coveted merit, and get harassed via PM and email for removal or donation of the same, all for no compensation.

I would welcome a promotion to Moderator, simply because I have spent five years here helping out for free.  :)

(I doubt this poll will have any effect on new moderators...)

What? How so? Nothing much has changed other than shitposters now need one merit and once they get that it's business as usual (and it's really not hard to get at all whether you buy it or not). Bitcoin Discussion is still a spam fest and people are still shitting up it up 24/7 and that's not going to change anytime soon or until signature campaigns are punished for paying for spam. In the meantime we can add some mods to help clean the place up.


I thought you'd previously said you didn't want to be a mod? I think some of the long-time users who are reporting loads probably should be made mods as certain people have obviously put in the work and would be beneficial as staff members. More staff members have left than have been added over the years and the forum only continues to grow so we need to meet demand and workload is never ending.

I didn't vote for you, because I felt like you can handle yourself just fine leaving red tags. But if you want to be Mod, you have my vote (which I can't change anymore).

Humans are noble creatures, to be moderators, especially for themselves and become a monderator for others, especially in the Meta Forum. Being a mod means being someone who is full of more responsibility in running the rules of the bitcointalk forum.

I say everything has a good chance?


I assume that a monderator can be said to be an individual with a professional soul and is able to judge other individuals for good purposes for bitcointalk forums that are unidirectional and aligned. A mod must be able to involve himself in the element of diversity of the members whose full responsibility.

Now in the case of choosing a monderator, this is certainly very much needed and knows and possesses the nature and character of a professional.

For example:
1. Intelligence:
(Intelligence is a basic factor to determine how well a step is taken by a monderator when dealing with a problem on the bitcointalk forum).

2. Initiative:
(initiative means brave when there is a problem in acting, Initiative: self is needed by monderator to achieve tranfaran and professional benefits).

3. Responsible:
(meaning it is ready to accept the risk of what is decided that comes from the consequences of the action that has been applied.

4. Character:
(the character of this thing certainly comes from how much success the monderator produces in arranging forum members in taking policies and decisions in the forum.

Conclusion:
Able to sacrifice and willing to plunge into the interests / problems of the Bitcointalk Forum compared to personal goals.
I think anyone can choose a new monderator with the character I mentioned above is an idea from me. Maybe there is a better suggestion for another idea to determine the monderator.

Greetings compact.

I voted for

 -LoyceV : He is active in gambling section and could be a good choice to be mod there.
(site owners making unlimited giveaways and it makes many problems there - new signups just pumping topics)

 -Jet Cash , Vod : They both handling helpful projects related to BT .

I cant be a mod, appreciate the votes but I cannot dedicate the time, I find it hard enough handing out all my merits right now due to all the shitposts.. Also I cant be politically correct so I wouldn't be suited to the role.

You're wrong here: theymos doesn't require Mods to be politically correct:

Is there anyway to identify the list of people who have reported most? Because those kind of people were deserved to be mods.

I too already voted for the five persons but still much people not interested in adding the new mods since we have very less votes on the pools.

I don`t think that we can talk about any qualitative changes yet. To get (or to buy, or to beg) 1 Merit isn`t difficult, so the number of spammers hasn`t decreased. I believe that new moderators are needed, especially in the English section, since it`s drowning in the waves of shitposts. The peculiarities of the bounty campaigns requirements provide for the majority of posts to be written in the English section, therefore the bulk of the spammers were and remain concentrated there.

Not until theymos releases that information to the public which he does seem to do now, and again. Having the most reports isn't the only factor to consider though. Timezones, and the quality of your reports matter too.

Why would you have to be politically correct? All you need to be able to do is follow and enforce the rules here as impartially as you can (which there aren't that many rules anyway). If you've got a high report count with a decent accuracy and are not a complete arse or troll then there's probably not much else that qualifies someone to be a mod or not.


Only theymos has access to those stats. He posts them occasionally but hasn't in a while. He sent me the top reporters in Bitcoin Discussion a few months ago after I requested them, but no further action was taken.

BD is desperately crying out for moderation. I've been reporting several spam mega threads a day for the past couple of weeks to be locked or trashed - they always are, but sometimes it is taking 48-72 hours for the reports to be acted upon. I'm not saying this in a derogatory way, but the global mods clearly have just too much to do without also being board mods for the majority of boards that don't have a dedicated mod.

I am definitely not good choice for altcoin moderator. I would probably trash half shitty scammy threads and very likely got myself kicked out of mod team ::)

he posts a list of the top whatever reporters every now and then. hopefully i'm still in the top 50 list with all the time i've taken off the forum. i feel we're due for another update pretty soon though.

yeah, it seems lately we've lost more staff than we've taken on, and there are big gaps of time when reports just aren't being handled quickly enough, which is problematic from time to time. for example, there was a spam newbie account that was posting thread after thread of nonsensical garbage, and even with the restriction on time between posts, they managed to fill just about the entire first page with spam threads before a patroller / moderator was able to see my reports and nuke the account.

I'm not sure if the staff are struggling to keep up with the current rate of reports (i would assume not) but i think it'd be a great idea to have some carefully chosen additions to the team so that we can have fewer gaps throughout the day where there (normally) would not be any moderators present.

well now that we have access to our own stats, it'd be possible to compile a community list in the case theymos for whatever reason isn't willing to compile another top 50 list in the future.

Locking a spam thread isn't really an urgent report. We have to actually go through the thread and make sure it has actually served its purpose. Sometimes I leave the reports because it's arguable about what a spam thread is. Sometimes the original post can be well written and well thought out, but if spammers can just answer the question in the title without reading the thread then it can quickly become unusable, but also sometimes people can still be making intelligent posts in there. This is why I think we should be cracking down on campaigns that pay for this crap rather than playing cat and mouse and locking good threads that have just turned to drivel because of spammers that are being paid for low quality contributions. Until that changes we're just wasting time and energy really.


You can compile as many lists as you want but it's futile if theymos isn't going to take any notice of it and the problem here is theymos just isn't acting on these things.

I just gonna quote LoyceV here>

I don't disagree, and I've voiced my support for increasing the merit requirements to display a signature and forcing bounty managers to stop paying for spam on other threads. However, I still think the community (the minority of it that aren't shitposters) should be taking in active role in trying to clean up the sub boards. I agree that deleting spam comments and locking mega threads aren't urgent or that important compared to other tasks demanding attention of Global Mods, which is why we need a dedicated board mod or two who can focus on these sorts of things.



This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. There have been a couple of times I've reported some completely worthless thread (e.g. "Is Bitcoin Good?" or similar), but by the time it is acted upon several days later the thread has already accumulated 4 or 5 pages of spammy replies.

I don't know why you added these two redundent big images in your post but not just mentioning the users you voted. Members shouldn't use images to just clog the threads.

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Sorry OP if I made a off-topic reply, but it has to be stated to avoid these actions.

Voted for suchmoon

Bump. It's long time. I think still admin hasn't assign any mod.

I totally agree.  It's an unfortunate fact that most online articles these days do the exact same thing--they put unnecessary pictures right in the middle of an article--not even advertisements--and it's annoying.

I don't think you need to bump this thread.  Even if Theymos was going to hire new moderators, the decision likely wouldn't come down to a poll like this, and bumping the thread isn't putting any pressure on him to do anything.  If Theymos decides more mods are necessary (and I happen to think they are), he'll act.

I don't think a reminder via a bump hurts either. I think they only way things will get done here is if the community keeps asking for them and the best way for that is to keep threads active on pressing issues, otherwise the threads could just get buried and forgotten about. Remember, theymos seemed to be dead against the one merit-requirement for Juniors initially but eventually came round to it. I don't know how much that decision was based on the overwhelming demand from the community but letting him know it's something we want or support is a good way to make sure it's something he sees and lets him know that it's something that is actively wanted by many.

Some of these have proven they certainly are not good selections for being a mod.

You need people that are open minded and not afraid to revise their first decision if logical and reasonable consideration of observable events require it. Also need to be balanced and fair.

There is only 1 person so far that I have encountered that seemed to be sensible and reasonable.

What criteria was used to place these selections here.

For sure I do not say ALL would be unsuitable but for certain some would.

This selection is horrible really its just members which are popular here on the forums rather than people who report the most. Reporting posts in sections which are in need of moderators should be the highest thing when considering a member as a moderator. Then judging those that report the most against each other and taking in time zones in an account. theymos probably has his own system but amount of reports and time zone surely are the highest priority and of course whether they are trustworthy or not.

I agree and they are not even that popular only with each other.  Most are quite unsuitable for any position of power here.

Fairness is the number 1 thing I would look for.  Being a moderator is akin to being a judge. You need balance, logic and reason along with being objective and open minded.

Theymos is the only one that really knows who's suitable, and I think he hasn't made too many mistakes when selecting users. It must be so hard to actually get a consistent, and trustworthy bunch together when most of them are completely anonymous. I think reporting posts shows good intent as its largely a thankless job. Especially, in sections which are already heavily moderated.

And the patience to shift through hundreds of messages all complaining about the forum in someway. Whether its about some other user or themselves being treated "unfairly".

Well I agree that is why subjectivity must be removed as far as it is possible and strict criteria applied. However the human element of fairness and empathy must be strong in any position of power things are rarely black and white and the context is never the same. It is a difficult position and one that I feel is tough to get right all the time.  The decision and basis must always be transparent though which makes the job even more tough.

I think the moderation on this board is very good as it is. New mods must be selected very carefully.  I would say any person that is willing to do their best to find the optimal decision based on all information at hand is the man for the job.

The fact this board allows questioning and analysis of decisions makes moderator position even more demanding but is one of the best things about this board. It is really in the spirit of this entire arena.

I have to wonder why darkstar is not on this list. Perhaps he does not want to be but actually since I have taken a break from the alt board and discovered new users on the sub boards this person seems to be open minded and balanced. If he wishes not to be then that is completely understandable as it is a demanding and time consuming position.

I doubt Darkstar has the time to report with personal life, and his campaign management. There are a few users that report a lot that aren't on the list though. They just aren't "forum famous" enough to be included out of the blue. The only way we could have a genuine election would be if new updated report statistics were released. However, theymos seems to want to keep this away from the public eye at the moment as he sent Hilariousandco the top reporters in Bitcoin Discussion, but didn't release it publicly for whatever reason.

That's fair enough it is a demanding job and I imagine can be stressful too.

Dmdrdmdr seems to have a more balanced and logical mind I guess he would not be too bad for this.  I mean anyone who is reasonable and balanced, objective, and willing to revise a decision if observable events suggest it is needed should be considered if they have enough experience here.

Yeah, someone who is rational, and will hold their hand up, and admit fault, but not only that but improve too. However, someone as unbiased as possible. This is more difficult than it first appears, because I don't think anyone is truly unbiased whatever the circumstances. Users tend to appear neutral in several situations, but they'll always have a bias towards one side. There are a few suitable candidates out there I think. I'm not sure on how much Dmdrdmdr reports, and can only judge him based on his posts, and persona. Seems to be logical that's for sure. Honestly though, you could be completely clueless about Bitcoin, have no prospects, and no brains. However, if you knew the forum policies, and guidelines, and where able to use your own initiative when "enforcing" these guidelines then you'd be pretty damn good at the job. Rank is irrelevant.

Could not agree with your more.  Let's hope if we are to get more mods this is exactly the kind that are added.

I’ve only just found this thread and most of the options in the polls are horrible choices (imo).



People like the pharmacist, vod and jet cash are great people and do great things for the forum but I’m not sure whether theymos would consider them for the mod position. Skim reading the other posts here, Jet cash wouldn’t want to be a mod and I can understand why.

Vod is already doing a lot for the forum, I think making him a mod might just burn him out.

Loyce has often been suggested as one of the best for reporting (by theymosdireactly) and I think he’s a good user but it is difficult to determine who theymos will actually accept and they’ll be started off on the boards that matter less (off topic, p&s, speculation that sort of thing imo - or just sddd to the list of the Asltcoin section because it’s starting to seem the mods must each do 10hour shifts there in order to fully obliterate everything that’s spammy).

Also, didn’t tman leave?

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if this is a duplicate I’ll delete it but skimming the thread this doesn’t seem to have been discussed yet.