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http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html (http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html)

Is this for real?

No.

Erm...

It is an American magazine, but do Newsweek not have a reputation for writing bullshit stories that nobody is meant to believe is real?

with headlines like Hitler was transvestite from Mars, or Freddie Starr ate my Hamster (from a UK equivalent junk tabloid)

Edit: Although this lines right up with my own personal conspiracy theory on Bitcoin:


Twas an NSA project all along and now they control it.

Despite the lack of proper evidence, my feeling is yes it is for real.

And that makes Newsweek pretty low for putting this man's life in danger.

You're thinking of the Enquirer.

Holy shit. Yeah, you are right.

In that case, it could be true, and I would draw everyone's attention to this extract from the article:


Been saying it for months. Bitcoin aint against The Man, it came from The Man.

Heh - I've just been saying in the wall thread that there's enough in that article to fuel the fires for conspiracy theorists.

He is going to come under immense pressure from his family now to spend the coins,  if only so they can go into hiding.  

My favorite comment about the article:

Could we get this thread deleted.

Why?

You want to delete this thread, all the threads that are already on this subject and all the threads that will be written on this subject from now on?

You also have to get Newsweek to delete the article - but it has already been pasted many places so that would not do any good anyway.

Could be him, I guess. The description, slightly nutty, but brilliant anti-government private researcher certainly fits.

But that's hardly enough evidence. Reading the article it sounds to me the evidence that it's him is basically that the writer of the article says "he implicitly admitted to be the creator of Bitcoin"... Is that sufficient evidence in your eyes?

A newsweek thread? Probably no.


Only to have 5 others appear?

At what point does conspiracy theory become more like common sense and the orthodox accepted version of events sound like bullshit?

i.e. Who is more likely to have created Bitcoin.

A team of high salaried life long committed cryptology professionals, pooled together under one roof with access to, for all intents and purposes, unlimited resources?

A lone hacker geek sitting in some Japanese attic with his Manga collection?

Personally, I think it's flimsy grounds to run such as potentially harmful (to the subject) article. But overall, I'm inclined to believe she might have found the real deal.

(Having said that, I once worked with a journo who ran an 'anonymous street artist Banksy unmasked!' interview only to find that he'd been pranked. Turns out Banksy actually isn't actually a forty-year-old housewife with some crayons.)

And what about the name? Someone who cares so much about privacy uses his real name on the internet? Sounds unbelievable to me.

This is all pretty surreal.

So the man that thousands of people have been searching for years was using his, er, real name the whole time?

Didn't even click the link before posting that. Didn't need to. Having read it now, I second my motion to get rid of this thread.

It doesn't matter if that's the guy. If it isn't, someone is going to get harassed just for having the name he has. If it is, we all owe him. And as for the article itself, he should turn it into a book and sell it. It's certainly long enough and with the right Dan Brown style to make it big. Also invasion of privacy. Something at least some of us are pretty big on, yes?

He is not a Manga geek , he is a model train geek.

Could have been a lapse. The white paper was kind of academic in style and setting. Sthg a researcher wouldn't mind putting his real name on. But  then it blew up, became real, really fast. At the point when he  realized his real name was associated with a global phenomenon, he dropped out.

Sounds at least possible to me.

who you trust (the idea - the creator or the project)

Only actually works in Ayn Rand novels.

its completely shit and fake story because Satoshi was not human he was a alien and its fact  ;)

Well, I'm not one to class all alternative theories as lunatic. I wouldn't rule your theory out entirely.

But your rhetoric shows you're already convinced towards one side. The comments in the article could just as easily be interpreted as a person who, having worked in and around gov agencies, understands why he needed to work well out of the spotlight. Based on this article, he comes across as more disgruntled idealist than agency spook.

As for the likelihood of a lone person coming up with bitcoin...well, it's just an idea, right? Not some Hadron Collider chiselled into the heart of a volcano. History is full of lone people coming up with great ideas. Sometimes, that's the only way they can happen.

"He's a brilliant man. I'm just a humble engineer. He's very focused and eclectic in his way of thinking. Smart, intelligent, mathematics, engineering, computers. You name it, he can do it."

But he also had a warning.

"My brother is an asshole. What you don't know about him is that he's worked on classified stuff. His life was a complete blank for a while. You're not going to be able to get to him. He'll deny everything. He'll never admit to starting Bitcoin."

I only created this thread because the wall thread moves too fast for me is too cliquey.  I only apologize to Bitcoinsrus that I didn't add a poll.

Wouldn't the NSA prefer a more easily controlled centralized crypto currency? I would see them be behind Ripple more than behind Bitcoin. Or Ethereum, which will probably become the next target for conspiracy theorists if that breaks through. Anyway I think it's too easy to create a conspiracy theory about everything that becomes big.

Just after graduating college, Nakamoto went to work on defense and electronics communications for Hughes Aircraft in southern California. "That was just the beginning," says Arthur, who also worked at Hughes. "He is the only person I have ever known to show up for a job interview and tell the interviewer he's an idiot - and then prove it."

....
A libertarian, Nakamoto encouraged his daughter to be independent, start her own business and "not be under the government's thumb," she says. "He was very wary of the government, taxes and people in charge."

I can't believe that a man who  was hiding for 5 years has been found. What's going to happen to his private life after this article in Newsweek ?! :o I am sure he is upset about being found

I have also thought that maybe bitcoin was originally created to track and map a part of the black market. When cash is actually hard to track, then create a digital currency that is "safe and untraceable" for all kinds of illegal activities. Honeypots like these wouldn't be created to actually convict criminals, but to map their activity so you can create strategies according to that information. Same thing could be used to fund certain things that's funding needs to be more under the radar.
I don't know if "The Man" created bitcoin, but I know that they surely would have good use for it.

If The Man had a controlling stake in the asset from the very off, what difference does it make if it is 'decentralised' or not? Was gold ever centralised? Did JP Morgan, the master of pump n dump not have a great big hard on for the Gold Standard?

A cornered market is a controlled market and possibly Bitcoins purpose is not to become a currency that challenges the USD, but to provide a vehicle for capital flight out of the economies of 'enemy nations' (banned in China and Russia) into the USD and western assets?

For this purpose, a liquid Bitcoin market needs to spring up. Whether it be black market trade, small time money cleaning, libertarian minded speculators etc.

Real or Not, this is an example of totally irresponsible journalism ....  >:(

She was never going to just sit on possibly the biggest story of her career.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/ATILATX3PEXZ4/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp

Looks to me like this is just a made up sensationalist piece made in the hopes of getting a promotion or public fame or something similar. She seems the type, the Dan Brown style supports it, and she writes for fiat magazines.

If something bad happens to that bloke, the same should happen to her ...

I might be wrong but big (..)organizations will not/never resort to BTC, they do pay in cash for those kinda services.
BTC is for individuals. so if the man is behind it then he is tracking you. which i'am still not 100% buying

This is reminiscent of Osama bin Laden being found a few blocks away from a major Pakistani military academy.  ;D

I also support the motion to delete or at least move this thread. No one is speculating on how this might affect the bitcoin exchange price.

I agree that big criminal organizations deal in more refined ways then BTC, but it's harder to track the little guys. You can track and map the dealings with HSBC, but with bitcoin, you could also map those who are lower in the food-chain. The more information you have, the better it is to plan your strategies.
Anyway, it's just a theory, but it makes sense to me.

I really prefer give attention to my own conspiracy theory ... witch is every time I type "satoshi" on search engine I get email from mit sloan/MFin ...

Even if he got it wrong and used his real name on the beginning, after going underground he would surely change his name in last year or so.

told ya

so it's by design for the lower in the food chain aka you/any Joe

/ thread

Dont we have a section for loser journalist here..

If it is created for tracking and mapping then yeah.

... on that shit article (publishing home address, car license plate, etc... just makes me sick ... complete unethical ) the only thing ok ( invented or not) is the train thing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AtE54HpXBM

Aye, I don't buy this bullshit made up story as well.  NSA' fucking social experiment all along....

even if it was like you say by design,
unless all exchanges, trade platforms, mixers are under the triangle eye (plus new alts starting with litecoin - they where not in the plan) that isn't 100% accurately possible. but it might give broader view for the overall analysis also considering the limitation of purchasable goods through the process.

So Satoshi Nakamoto's real identity is... Satoshi Nakamoto.

;) sounds like ...

Wrongfully Accused Leslie Nielsen in scene Login Password
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDCL8c_oii8

It's not a social experiment.

It's economic warfare

Well, in theory NSA can observe all of the internet traffic and filter out what is needed. Also, computer systems may have hardware integrated back doors. So, in theory, everything was already in place before, to track every movement of an currency that attracts people who in turn are attracted by the anonymous aspects in bitcoin. A way to lure out people who think that they have something to hide.
But well, it's all in theory and I have absolutely no idea what is really going on.

After big-bang everything is history ...

If I was a manager at NSA I would order my team find Satoshi, and I would find him. You are never anonymous online.

So either NSA has found Satoshi and don't tell us about it.
Or they invented Bitcoin and used Satoshi as a pseudonym to give bitcoin a good start.
It would be a marketing disaster for bitcoin if it was officially released by NSA instead of the mystical idealist Satoshi.

Yep.

And not against the USD and her allies, but against the upstart nations who are building up their economies and threatening the dollar hegemony, by looking for ways out of it. A liquid BTC market provides moderately wealthy individuals/middle classes with a 'I'm alright Jack' way of getting their funds out of a crisis hit economy, which in turn throws the economy into yet more crisis. The one day Ukraine panic showed exactly the ways in which Bitcoin would be used when the curtains seem like they might come down on a nations economy.

The USD will collapse, but not before every other currency economy has collapsed underneath that. Bitcoin is a way of helping BRICS and other small nations currencies collapse. A facilitator if you like. The instigation will come from other pressures.

Bitcoin is a tool of evil, not of liberty. Even if Satoshi is a libertarian and he believed in the altruistic ideals behind Bitcoin, it isn't really that hard for nefarious organisations to use well meaning individuals who operate under their umbrella as tools in a game they may not understand.

Aand none of it matters. Still. It still doesn't matter. Sound economies are not going to collapse because of bitcoin, and the ones that would break anyway would... ready for it? break anyway.

Typical fkn ignorant American.

Definitely not. Poor man.

you name droppin' me brah?! ;)
[needs a poll here :(]

I'm a dane. You typical fucking (<- that would be the word you were looking for) ignorant american.

hahaha this poor guy. Two words: Plausible deniability.

But they are getting closer. They found the guy the real bitcoin founder(s) set up. Now you have to go back through this guy's life and find who he worked with. Good luck.

The level of paranoia - ULTRA PRO  ;D

This poor guy is gonna get tortured and murdered. Great job newsweek, you can be proud.

I just saw a live feed of the front of this guys house with reporters and cops.. He evidently called the cops and asked them to deal with the people outside..

CNBC knocked on his door and said: Hey this CNBC can we ask a few questions?


He replied " i dont know any CNBC " !!            That was pretty funny LOL,

 seriously tho.. that journalist and newsweek just bought themselves some bad karma.. Its one thing to say i think i know who it is... but its another to post pictures of his car and address and kids and just make a target out of that family! Whether it's really him or not is not really the accent of this story. Will they show up at his relatives funeral, or go after his kids at their school?  What just happened here..

If this is the usual MSM tactic, then the guy is completely made up - probably even photoshopped.

Once it was published he could have simply mentioned his age, dropped his real name and written all the software under a psuedonym, claiming to be a 20-year-old hacker following the instructions laid out in the whitepaper while slugging JOLT cola and pulling all-nighters.

I have done this myself.

If I could think up something like this, I'm sure Satoshi could have.

we will have dozens of satohis threads again  :D

what we need is a proof. no proof, no satoshi.

yep, its more than stupid, its criminal. you can harm someones life with this shit.

While I do think that the article is terribly written and researched, I'm not going to blame someone's problems of being associated with bitcoin on the media. The guy's name is Satoshi Nakamoto - it's hardly surprising that someone would investigate and report on the matter. No one freaked out when this was published with people's names a year ago:

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

Either this guy isn't Satoshi and he should deny it or he is and he should have thought up a better pseudonym.

Cypherpunks National Bureau for Cryptocrime.  ;)

Hollywood outcome?

Got any link to the video?

Isn't this entire story? Hell, bitcoin as a whole?