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Warning! Ranting ahead!

I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?

Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.

What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.

From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.

If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.

Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.

I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.

You do not have to be depressed because of the crash in the market at present. Look on the bright side and enjoy this moment of stability with bitcoin price. For a long time we have not have this low and controlled volatility. Also, know that every business us controlled by the big monies. It is not with cryptocurrency alone.

saying a market should move based on emotion. is also bad
prics should move based on value rises where everyone who bought coins aove X wont sell lower than X meaning when they sell for X+1 eventually everyone values it at X+1

thinking the price should jump by 400% and stay up based on pure emotion and not based on values/costs is bad behavior

there is no real event that is currently happening to add real value to cause big rises.
however the markets are moving. just not causing a large spike some people want.

dont wait weeks months for 50%-400% spikes. instead take the small 1% changes and repeat. that way you will get your 50%-400% (cumulatively)

if you dont have the patience. then click the x at the corner of the price chart screen and watch some TV or plan out starting a business or other methods of making some money.

also remember the $20k was not a "value" price. it was a fluke of temporary emotional hype based on an event of november, which is not going to happen this november as the event that triggered it is not happening this year.

dont think the $20k is something that was suppose to have lasted. in short dont stand on a mountain looking down. stand at the ground level looking up

I get your point but being this irritated about the price will get you no where. use this as your advantage and be more practical in investing. Invest what you can handle to loss.

I have seen a lot of similar ranting while the price was going down. At each dip, I always found one or two such topics. However, this is somewhat new to me when I see someone ranting when the price of bitcoin is slowly stabilizing!

Also the argument is not really making sense to me because of the mention of some imaginary whale flooding the market with fake orders in order to keep the price stable! Really!!

I mean why would a millionaire trader keep on pumping and dumping at the same time to keep the market stable?? What's the reward that whale is going to fetch?? Think about all these factors! Bitcoin price stabilizing, is a good news for us! Only people who invested during late 2017, will not be happy!

as much as the majority of news is positive the extent of it is limited. There is a dearth of overwhelmingly positive news for the last 6 months or so, there are a lack of major technological breakthroughs and a lack of major market breakthroughs.

This whole thing is disheartly because, the market for quite sometime now has been found stable which no longer respond to the positive news either. This is very bad as it affect majority of investors who are currently holding a very large proportion of these coins.
If they will hold for a very long term they will smile home at last. "patience"

I agree with your statement OP but I think this will only be temporary.  I believe the wealthy individuals are manipulating the prices to stay low so they can buy coins at discount prices.  Markets always work in cycles and I firmly believe w will see much higher prices by the end of this year.

Unfortunately, many people like OP got used to the fictitious bonanza that the market experienced throughout 2017, when any minimal rumor about the bitcoin skyrocketed the price to new historical records. And as happens in our dream travels, waking up from a pleasant dream is usually painful because it confronts us with the harsh reality.

And the reality of bitcoin is that its price was artificially inflated last year, and its current price seems much closer to what its historical trajectory could make us project, than the price of $20k observed last year.

So, humble yourself and appreciate that the price is sustained around $6,000 these days, because in my opinion there seemed to be even more room for the fall to be prolonged below $3,000.

Ranting about the price/value currently is not advisable,if only you've been Investing in this system for someone time you should be conversant with the market trends,then if not please note...

 The price of bitcoin doesn't simply just rise,numerous factors give rise to a pump...

Why have we been experiencing the bull all through the year,factors that could lead to a pump,havent actually taken place,that being said the price/value isn't at its worst stage except of course you were expecting too much..

  You can still invest in this market and maximize large profits,and note that the market remains what it is and that's decentralized,unpredictable and highly volatile

In my own mind, I do not beef people who invested in the future they thought about and it worked out for them. They are business people and will decide how it will benefit their business first before any other thing is done.

We all still have the opportunity to own large unit of coin but we are still staring. No body will invest for us if we don't get up to take our decision.

The cryptocurrency price position can really be frustrating, especially for the people who invested with the hope of making tangible profit within the shortest time. All you can do is to have courage and patience. Cryptocurrency market is going to be good in future and you will be glad you waited.

You need not to get tired or sick in crypto, the bearish and bullish state are both filled with opportunity,understand that this is just a phase that is sure to be overcome, better plan are ahead always as the market is sure to overcome its bearish period, always ensure you take profit for every season in order to to get the best out of the crypto space.

Agreed on this, when diving into cryoto you must set aside your emotions.

And why on earth people whining on a bearish market situation. It does make any sense. Cryptocurrency isn't a get rich quick scheme method. There is indeed some market manipulation but the market is purely speculative based on supply and demand. there is no need to complain about the market, just let the market flow. we just need to sit patiently.

If you doesnt have a lot of patience and too emotional on your investment, I think this is not the right place for you. Crypto market and other trading market as well has its bearish and bullish trend. Unfortunately , we are on a bearish for a long time now .

It is okay to be frustrated about the state of the market, however, there is also really nothing we can do much about it but just to wait until it gets back up again. It can be tiring and annoying to wait because the price is immovable at most, but our anger will also do nothing to change the price. Just be patient. Hopefully, the price will rise soon.

and where are the news that are so positive that can cause the price to increase immediately? Are you talking about ETF? This will only be possible next year. Are you talking about Bakkt? this will only take effect in a few months. as you can see, we do not have good news that could cause a great increase of immediate prices. Do not be so worried, relax and wait. this is a long-term investment.


in the case of OP is worrying, he said this: " Sick and tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit!!! "

  Wow, getting frustrated in this Crypto Currency Market is a losing statement, nothing or gain nothing from being frustrated, one should note that from the start if you were able to understand the Market Volatility, then you may have not enter or invest or put investment in any of the posted coin in the market.

Just put the following in your head. Markets are not rational.


The positive news can draw in newcomers that would exchange fiat for crypto and thusly raise the price.

But of all the new people we could draw, a lot have already joined us and a lot of others simply think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme or whatever.

I think that the market can gain steam again once we're solving problems and creating real value for people, having farmers sell their product for bitcoin and then being able to use that bitcoin to buy farming equipment would be powerful.  Creating second layer solutions to increase transaction throughput would be powerful. The market price itself rising creates illogical bull-runs.


Do you really wanna see 50k within the year even if it means another huge crash that brings us back to 10k? I think what we're trying to build here transcends short term prices.



Also if you truly believe in that conspiracy that would mean that there would be someone out there selling bitcoin below market value. If that was true they would just be throwing money away, and you could potentially pick that money up, either through investing in the exchange itself or even trading against them (being on the other end of their trades).

I don't believe that there is such a conspiracy.

Warning! the following is some ugly truths that you may not like it.

your first and biggest problem is being a newbie and "staying" a newbie without wanting to change. you keep watching Youtube videos from idiots who are targeting newbies who don't understand the market and want to be told what to do in it! and that is exactly what they are doing. and why? because they want to make profit from YOU. which is why they tell you to bag hold your altcoins, which is why they  tell you to buy the altcoins they  bought before the pumps so that they can sell it to you,....

the market is manipulated but nowhere near the way you think it is. there are pump and dumps happening in the altcoin market but as long as they are pumping it you close your eyes on the pumps but as soon as the dump began you start crying about manipulation. but the fact is, those altcoins you bought during the pumps are simply going back to their real value now that the pump is over which is why most of them are back to their initial price prior to the pumps.

the bitcoin is the same too with the difference that it has real utilities so its price will continue rising in the long run because not all of it is speculation and manipulation but also there is real adoption too. $20k was a bubble and it needed to burst, currently $6k is an inverse-bubble which needs to burst too. that is how the market works. sometimes it is too excitable and price shoots up to $20k and then it gets excited again and price drops down to lower than natural prices such as $6k.

try educating yourself about bitcoin or any other altcoin that you think is worth your time. check out the project itself, run the full nodes and try them out by sending transactions and using their features and then compare them. eventually you will figure out what is going on. and by extension you will have a better idea about the market too. so afterwards try watching the charts in the long run, see the changes that has been happening for years. the rises and falls, the volumes that go in and get out and move to some place else....

Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!

When you hang cryptocurrency only on a hope you will feel it. Rather than just hoping to better learn and understand and analyze the price movements of bitcoin because with that we can find out when the price of bitcoin will move. Change your mindset about bitcoin don't just expect the profit.

you don not need to sick or tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit because you must have knowledge about cryptocurrency before joining crypto world. There will be nothing much to think about bull shit. Let it be.

Blockchain technology is one of the best things that ever happened in my lifetime and the most revolutionary after the Internet and I am 52 years old. Yes the state of a manipulated market is not very welcoming, I know because my portfolio has suffered terrible losses, but to be fair with you, when everyone was going to the Occupy Wall St rallies, everyone complained about Wall St but didn't have any solutions for change. Now with Crypto we have many solutions to world problems, so eventually the more the technology behind Bitcoin and Crypto is adopted, the more stability and less manipulation should come with the markets. I am trying to hold on to see those times but yeah 2018 was a horrible year. I nearly capitulated but instead decided to start day trading a little of my dying portfolio and even getting those little percentages has helped my portfolio now stay on life support at least. I wish you good luck and anger won't solve anything unless you channel it into finding a solution that suits you best for the time being while we wait for better days ahead.  :)

I get your point and opinion. But this is how the market works. let's just be thankful that the market is stable right now and it isn't going down anymore. Maybe in a few months or even years, we could see some price jumps in Bitcoin. let's just be patient enough. This isn't a quick money scheme.

People nowadays always blame price without know what history of bitcoin price. Maybe they join when bitcoin on it's peak and now they end with loss. It is not good for community because something like bitcoin  need smart people to adopt it.

And I am sick of people ranting all the time. If you don't like it, move on. Also market has started to get stable. Lets be realistic, too much rise in price has to see low. So an average price would be the best. It can't just stay at 20k you know. This is not a shortcut to earn more profit overnight, its a better alternative for fiats and a beautiful technology!

In a few words, because there's no more free lunch in crypto

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These days are over, get used to it


I understand why you are so angry and upset, probably even depressed and frustrated. But this is how "normal" currencies should behave (I don't mean some shit like Zimbabwean dollar or Venezuelan bolivar, of course). If you are looking for volatility, which is what you apparently do, go for currency derivatives like futures and options, or even volatility indexes if you have titanium guts and balls of steel. Bitcoin is just becoming one that currency, and I'm thinking that's good. Go hunt elsewhere, maybe, in altcoins?

I guess we can not help with it if the market is not moving. Now there is no such thing as unity and doing the things altogether as if someone might just say here lets start out unity and pump the crypto market more and more. Thats complete rubbish thing, we cant move the market in that manner because there is no unity at all. There is always unbalanced group of people with panic sellers at one site and buyers at one site. Now we cant stop these panic sellers and thus buyers take the full advantage of this situation and keeps buying at lowest prices and thus the market sets out lower prices all the time.
This is what currently happening, and no one is to blame it but this is how it works I guess.

If you want to win the profits then you need to choose right spot and earn.

Stop watching Youtube mate, its not good for you.


Its a free market, anyone can do their thing. If you know that they're acting fraudulently, I advise you to be flexible and make some adjustments on you end.


Or maybe they are all just waiting from the outside before making any moves?


Everyone is getting smarter nowadays, What's let are speculators who know how to play the games. Those who have FOMO is out that's why you don't see any nice pump. Are you expecting that bitcoin would go on a parabolic rise? That's wrong, any speculative asset doesn't work that way. Just look at how altoins suffered, even worst than bitcoin, so just look at it that way.

wow, op has a big issue here, fit to a newbie, anyways, these ups and downs in the bitcoin prices are common and also a result of bitcoin being volatile, too bad that as of present, the price is not that high compared last year because of some major factors that affects the price like positive news, increase in users and dollar price in the market, but as they say, investing in bitcoin is risky, if you dont understand the risk, this will result in ranting like this. i have read a comment here that as of the moment, the best or acceptable thing to do is sell at at least 1% spike, slowly but surely, i think that is what most users  do, they hold when there is a dip then sell once the price spike even a bit, not healthy by the way, for the market. just be patient.

You should not invest into anything else if you are frustrated with the Crypto currency price stability. The price of Gold and Silver and Oil are just as frustrating, because it is even less volatile than the Bitcoin price.  ::)

I think most of your frustration is based on your expectations of what happened in 2017 and that is wrong. I know a lot of people bought at the ATH and they want the Bitcoin price to recover for them to exit the scene with a profit, but unfortunately that is not going to happen soon. <my own opinion>  ::)

People can still make a lot of money, with a $100 price swing, like we are seeing with the Bitcoin price recently.  ;)

That's how market fools naive traders

If you take any established market as an example, say, crude oil market, and analyze price dynamics over a sufficiently long period, you will see that most of the time prices are sticking around some base value with low or negligible volatility. In order to take advantage of it, you have to increase your positions dramatically. But when the price does change in the end, it changes abruptly in the range of a few or even a few dozen percentages. And no matter what end of the trade you are on, you will either lose the opportunity of earning big time by selling too much too early or will suffer losses and all your hard-earned profits will get instantly eaten away by this massive price move as you don't expect such a powerful change and get caught unprepared

OP investing in cryptocurrency for some months cannot make you earn huge returns in a short period of time if you think you can do it in short term then forget all about crypto you should skip into gambling money is more faster than youre expected but only when youre lucky enough In crypto we need patience dont give up bitcoin millionaires did not do it in 2 years wait for more years..  

It's s unfortunate bro. These are thesame people who go about ruining Nations and their economies.
Poverty is certainly deliberate. I am  certain about this because I have see undeniable evidence of poverty being deliberately spread by people (sometimes I wonder if they are really humans) like you and I.  They fought so hard, maim, kill, destroy, bomb, slaughter, assassinate, just to  keep people dependent on them.
They hate to see people independent.
  They tactically mock and dehumanize vulnerable people continuously. It is as if their existence is dependent on seeing others in misery and misfortune.

It is because big people see in the market that there are still people like you left and they want you out before they want to start a new bull trend.

Exactly, those people wanted to see the market condition in a bull trend since experience for long in a bloody market. Almost of us has a high hopes about the market to be increasing of price. And I believe we will see a new moves of price that will benefit the users.

Hearing and seeing market events will only make you sick, I have experienced it for a long time, but for now and until the next day I will no longer listen to what they say and do not care about a market that continues to churn. I know it is nonsense about hodling, but with patience and believe that if the crypto market has a good chance in the future to rise, then you will remain calm and do not have to trust the news that will make you a benchmark in your trade.

Markets themselves are rational but people aren't. Markets simply operate of supply and demand. You're so right in what you say however, we don't need another big speculative bubble, slow and steady growth is what we need. These large pumps and then harsh bubble explosions are bad for development and adoption and long-term only hurt bitcoin.

We all would like to make a ton of money but it takes time. Now you can buy stuff when prices are low and then wait the market to hit bull. Invest in good projects and wait ;)

I'm assuming you're talking about the altcoin market and not the bitcoin one, because bitcoin is doing just fine right now.  It might not be moving much, but it's still way higher than it was when I first got into it.

If you are talking about tokens and altcoins, maybe people have started to become a bit skeptical about them and aren't seeing the utility in 99.999% of them.  Frankly, the vast majority aren't worth touching.  In any case, I'll have to take your word for it that the markets are "pissing blood" since I don't really follow the shitcoin markets.  I will say that if this is the case, it's happened many times before and I'm fairly sure the market will recover.  Is it rational that prices will rebound?  Probably not, because of the point I made above--but shitcoin investors tend to be more irrational than they think.

I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend.

If he is not seeing an opportunity on ground to invest in the long run, then I really wonder what he has been doing here in this space in the first place.

Sorry to say that but this problem is applicable to anyone, not just newbies

There is an adage (sort of) which says that people rarely make the same mistake twice. It is thrice and more times. We all follow our mental patterns deeply engraved in the chemistry of our brains, which make us repeat the same mistakes over and over again. In retrospect, you often can not even believe that it was you. So it is not just about newbies or only about trading as it takes a lot of in-depth introspection and analysis (and sometimes even the help of a mental health professional) to get rid of our dangerous habits. It is said that we learn only the hard way, but in fact most people don't learn at all. In trading, such people eventually lose all and then go home in tears or rage feeling deceived, humiliated, worthless

Having more expectations about something isn't good for your health. You spent money for invest in by hanging on someone else, cause all you did was take on every suggestion that everyone said, even though you don't know the choices you have chosen. You like a possessed person, I mean your body was used by other people without you knowing it. FOMO on your mind was acute so you have to treat it slowly.

Trying every time you receive an information you must know the truth first, digest it carefully and think with the common sense you have, use the prediction that you had before, it would be better to respond everything. Cryptocurrency price movements are very mysterious, many things are not understood by an ordinary person's reason, this concerns money so as everyone will use anti-mainstream methods to respond it.

Bitcoin price was stable which means you can judge which one will give you a profit or choose an altcoin that still has a lot of pump and dump, and I guess you've been fooled by the altcoin, be careful.

Let them keep blaming whoever or whatever they want to blame and probably that would keep them happy. Wisdom is profitable and at this stage, someone without it is bound to rant, whine, get sick and tired and even shit on the market because they are too greedily dumb to realize that what they should be investing in is the future of payment and not just because they are looking for a quick means to get rich in the short term.

That mindset has affected so many people's judgment and mentality in this space that they just keep seeing negativity when they should be seeing opportunity. If he is not seeing an opportunity in this bear market already, then I have nothing else to say to him.

Bots will not be able to fundamentally change the price behavior in the market. After all, bots are programmed by people who lay down their vision in them.

When we can already see the frustration of the people then that would be the time that market will become better. Just like OP, some are just sick and tired of what is happening in the market and if you can't be patient in this kind of environment then better find someone else that would provide a profit that would not discourage you. Just think of ways then on how you can take advantage of the opportunity of the movements because cryptocurrency movements is more volatile compared to stocks.

We are all tired of what is happening its been a long time since market is very high and have a very good performance. But all we can do is just to wait a little more. Have more patience. Instead of being sick and tired, just do something meaningful and useful to earn and save as many good coin as you can. You will not that market is at good condition again.

There's something I've advised a few people to do during this bears season, and it's simply staying away from the market especially for those who do not wield trading skill set. Take the time off to learn and read more about the space and the blockchain technology, that will serve as the needed distraction.

Not seizing the opportunity of the bearish state was the mistake most inexperience cryptonier usually make and it because they dont have the require knowledge, they put all their hope on cryptocurrency, they expect too much from the market and ignore the probabilities involve.

I won't call it a mistake, if it is repeated then it is termed as blunder. Most of the time most of us makes blunders not because we don't have the ability to understand things but due to the fact that we don't learn a learn a lesson from our mistakes.

Indeed, this year's decline has been detrimental because of very low price reductions, but I don't need to give up on the current losses, and I prefer to keep holding and be patient, because in the future crypto will be able to rise and the price can recover.

This year I will say is what will determine the future of bitcoins because it has been able to stabilize after a long drop. This I believe is and should be the value of bitcoins for a while so that it can becomes less volatile and more stable.

I agree, the more you look at charts the longer it will feel it takes, just zoom out, spend more time doing other things than crypto or at least spend time doing analysis but not about charts, unless you‘re a day trader. I reduced my time to spend with crypto and I am less nervous now. The more you want something the the longer you have to wait, just tune out for a while.

Crypto is not a scheme to get rich quick and there is no guarantee that everyone who enters crypto can get rich. Crypto is risky and full of price manipulation, and if you think that crypto will bring wealth, it will frustrate you with the current conditions.

I understood how you feel in the whole situation of this current market now I my self felt the same way back when I came in, which if you look back in the history of bitcoin you will get to know this same situation has occurred before this year is even better to that of the previous. So all you just need to do is seat and enjoy the ride don't feel depressed.

I think you don't need to become hesitate or even tired of crypto because it won't help you to gain and to meet your dreams. Market situation is normal,everything will change,there is no constant and stable in crypto that's why as time goes by i know price and everything in crypto will change. Just make this current situation as an opportunity to buy more and invest it for the future.

If he likes, he can get sick, tired or even puke on us all, it is his call. At this stage, if people are still investing out of greed and not because they see something in the future, then they are just full of shit  and bollocks as far as I am concerned.

Patience is one thing people like this can never have because they never got in because they believed in the future and they only saw an avenue to quickly make money, hear all the bullshits they want to hear, invest into FOMO while waiting for the moon and then we see them being pushed out by the whales who know people like them exist.

It is their call at this stage if they do not want to get wise. Like they usually say common sense is not generally common anyway.

Er... I beg to disagree

What are markets if not just an aggregate of people trading there? Markets are reflecting the sentiment of the crowd there and can be just as irrational. As my favorite saying goes (ascribed to John Keynes), markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. It means basically two things. First, that the markets can be irrational (which is kinda obvious), and, second, that they can stay that way indefinitely long. And it makes perfect sense since if they were in fact as rational as you claim, making money there would be a pushover (which it is not). Just because you have an equation as in supply equaling demand at a certain price doesn't mean that the parts of the equation are as straightforward, logical, and determined

Honestly I do not think the market is pissing blood. The market is sometimes red but sometimes it is green as well. People are sad and angry about bitcoin and other coins not being at their ATH levels anymore but if you take away late november and december of last year out you can clearly see that crypto is at its highest levels right now.

Except for one month at the end of 2017 right now we are seeing the biggest prices we can hope. Also for months bitcoin has been going up and down, it is not going down only, it sometimes goes up too. Just last week we have seen ripple going 60%+ and others followed a bit too.

right, learning from mistakes is the best teacher to achieve goals. often we are disturbed psychologically because we regret mistakes made, so that in making a decision it will always be wrong

I feel you sir, sometimes crypto is frustrating because of expectation and reality doesn't coincide all the time but all that circumstances are just normal in world of crypto currency because of the intangibles aspects that we are not full control of. Cryptocurrency is not for short-term venture but it's for long-term investments that needed time, effort and patience in order to enjoy the fruit of holding your assets as much as possible.

Yes sometimes cryto will not meet our expectations that's why we feel down. But we must not think it negatively just continue what we we started. We must learn it and improve it for the future.

We can't blame the guy that maybe in reality they invested huge and lose it or maybe they expected to earn easy money without considering that investing in Crypto currency is very risky because the price is really unpredictable. Lets see if they change their mind if the crypto currency bullshit will bounce back before this year will end or we shall join them that we will leave this investment in dismay too by next year.

A lot of people are feeling down because they were busy expecting what they could not get and all they care about most of the time is just how to get rich quickly and that affected their greedy minds and ended up doing things that are uncalled for when it comes to going all in while buying the peaks, thinking the market will just keep moving up. At the end of the day, these are the category of people that would end up becoming weak hands.

Yeah, I can understand that downtrends can be boring sometimes, but how boring it gets is based on what you are looking at, as you can make it less boring by looking forward to more dips to even buy more for the long run, and that is even if you understand there is future potential anyway.

It's okay to rant and complain about what is happening now in the crypto World. But, learn from the experts as well. You will notice that most of them are just patient because they know that this kind of situation is happening all the time. there's nothing new with it. Just be patient.

100%. And yet, everyone needs to diversify their risks. Now there are a lot of tools that allow us to earn even during the fall of the market. We should not be lazy and constantly learn.

If you saw something on youtube on how excited they are, is it because they were doing their vlogs and being excited is part of it. There's no positive news today and if you think you saw some positive news it might not be enough to make the market pump a bit.
The market today was down because of the FUD again and i think bitcoin will going to stop at $6000 this month.

There is no such thing as always prices should be green. You can see it in all trading sectors, maybe crypto is a little more volatile, but first lesson you need to learn when you started crypto trading should be ''risk''. If you haven't learned this before, learning in this way is your own mistake.

The market really made many investors tired because they put a lot of trust in the market but the results are very bad. The trend of the cryptocurrency market has not yet been determined in this phase so investors should allocate capital to minimize their risk. Do not be greedy at this stage as it will be very dangerous.

I also love that especially to those small time farmers. The only bitcoin cannot give to them is the security of their store value. We know how bitcoin price works and for small time farmers that isn't good. The hardest thing bitcoin should solve is its price vulnerability.



More people are taking advantage of this situation I can't personally blame them but when a newbie will come and was introduced to this scheme then their mindset will also be like this

Cryptocurrency price not depending on youtube. Price is depending on peoples supply and demand. Recent market condition is not good because people panic with fake news and some people think its good opportunity to collecting more coin with cheap price.
I think we should keep optimism on our portfolio because cryptomarket is not one day market.

Agree with you. It is no use being depressed about cryptocurrency bullshit. Istead of that, I think we should spend time to learn more about crypto and gain experience about it

Thats right, there are conditions where the market situation recurs like a price drop, if you fall and make a mistake in that condition again, I don't call it a mistake, you're right it's a blunder. the mistakes you make can be learned, because conditions on the market can be understood because they keep repeating

It is not possible to eliminate price manipulation happening in the crypto-currencies trading market, I believe even in the stock trading market, there would also be a group of traders who are trying to manipulate the price of some stocks, as long as they are earning profits, they would just continue to do it, and the best way to fight against price manipulation on the trading market would be to hold on to all your crypto-currencies even when there is a huge price dip happening on the trading market.

This is normal if we are disappointed of what we want. Remember that not all of us will become successful in this technology. If you not make it here maybe on other investment you will succeed. Relax and enjoy life to the fullest.

Well said, I agree on you. Big groups or probably those big whales are now continuing their works as long as they have a profit to have. One thing that we can help to contribute in the market price movement just keep on holding we know that it is a part of volatile probably those whales are getting tired of they are doing now. In fact, this is a great opportunity for us to ride the market while it is down and wait when our profit was there.

You lack patience. You must understand that the crypto market is unstable and risky. You don't need to worry about current market conditions, and don't sell low.

If you were ever made yourself more clear about crypto currencies' moment, you will never get frustrated like this. I do understand the pain behind waiting for a hike holding coins, but you need to convince  yourself of crypto's nature. 2017's spike made everyone fall on a sick hoping to have a huge hike as like 2017. Just compare 2018's 1st,2nd and 3rd quarters with previous years. You will not be annoyed seeing the growth trend. The crypto is travelling as normal but we are not. Our expectation is totally high where we need to have less expectation. Too many predictions, news and articles written by individuals impacted this fever.

Cryptocurrency can not constantly grow in value. It must always be remembered. The current situation occurred mainly due to the fact that Bitcoin strongly raised up in price. It should not be so fast. If this happens further, the situation with a fall and a long stagnation will also be repeated. However, if this has already happened, you just need to wait out this difficult period. After some time, the cryptocurrency market will be restored vseravno.

Stop treating Bitcoin like some get rich scheme or a rainbow with gold on its end. It's not meant to give you anything but financial freedom. Too many people come here hoping to get rich, asking when lambo and complaining about falling markets. You should be happy that you have the chance to try out a system that relies on your actions and not the actions of your government, a clerk in the bank, the court or anybody else. The growing price is just an icing on the cake and you should treat it like a bonus.

Indeed! Probably OP thinks that participating in cryptocurrency can make him rich that easy.  But sadly those who have a deep understanding of the market are the only one who can make themselves rich prior to less error on their decision regarding what to trade when to buy and sell etc.  Those who have been in the market for a very long time know the manipulation that exists and they tend to ride it in order for them to have profited from those events.

This what we really need to deal with, cryptocurrency is still like a normal market or system conditions on stocks or in the economy, there were times the economy of a country fails and they find ways to survive, same with crypto it's not always bright but we need to get moving.

I sincerely know how frustrated you are right now seeing market in red for long period. However,  I believe you know the rule before you join. You know how volatile this market is and how quickly the market react positively or negatively to any major news. So please do have patience and hold your coins well. Better days still lies ahead.

The market is really struggling in the past few months. But don't let this ruin you. Because it will lead you to some bad decisions that you will regret in the future. Remember every market will experience this downfall season. So cheer up and compose yourself. The markwt will recover in due time.

Cryptocurrency is not living good times now, and a lot of fire will burn the bad projects in the next few months.
However i have the feeling that good projects will pass this hard times and became stronger.

There is no bullshit about cryptocurrency, you who only expect high prices and expect rich from crypto, then you are indeed a person who cannot take advantage of the good opportunities of cryptocurrency, because whatever happens in crypto will definitely have a good impact in the end, crypto starts from the lowest and now you can feel the pleasure of a much better profit compared to a few years ago. So stop complaining and continue to be patient so you can feel the pleasure of getting good profits in the future.

I don't think that you should be sick and tired because this is natural thing in the Cryptocurrency market , already this condition came in past two times with big dump % .
You need to be positive right now , I mean you should be positive to have thinking that soon in the future market Will get up and also with that if you will have investment right now then surely with uptrend in market you will be able to make money in bulk Amount .

I read a lot of topics, lots of people complained about the price of bitcoin at the moment, even they wrote this sign that bitcoin will die or end, all sounds very prustative, complains and emits emotions, and they blame the pope for its roots. But is that true? is this market controlled?
I do not know everything but I know that people who complain a lot because he hopes a lot of things that are impossible or too high, like expecting high fluctuations for the current price of bitcoin, you forget the main purpose of bitcoin is for the transaction tool not for investment is not it (that's what I know and I read) so the price stability now means that the purpose of bitcoin will be achieved, because with the stable price of many people or companies who dare to accept bitcoin as a means of payment. positive only

Maybe you just don't get what you wanted that's why you can't on the market performance. Just be patient my friend and someday you will see your investment prosper.

Being in a depressive state because of the market will not even solve anyone's problem at the moment and it would only get to worsen things for such an individual eventually. There is so much to the opportunities every trend in the market brings and because people mindset is already clouded with the idea of getting rich fast, the ability to think straight and be wise will deteriorate. He may call it cryptocurrency bullshit now because of his own lapses, and rather than finding where he has made a mistake and amend some things, he is out there blaming the world.

I hope in the long run when he sees the market grown hugely; he won't come back telling us stories of how he missed the train now because of his own wrong decisions.

Cryptocurrency will be frustrating for you if you want it to be frustrating and the whole choice at the end of the day is always going to be in your hands. People tend not to realize they are the ones making the decisions and the whole ball is in their court, and since they are so ignorant of the decisions they are making, they ended up making the wrong ones and now blaming the cryptocurrency space for their predicaments.

Sit back, reflect on what you did wrong, make amendments and learn from it, which is how to be better at what you do and investing properly in the long run, only losers get frustrated about something.

Who knows, maybe he really lost everything and now feels frustrated. As for me, I can say that this year was not the best one but I do not give up. I will be patient enough to hold the cryptos I have longer.

OK, the guy is blaming but does it change anything? It is senseless! If somebody feels really sick and tired of the crypto, I suppose he should simply quit it - it will be honest.

the ones that can stay and keep calm are going to be the winners. it is for sure. i dont know how long they are going to wait but this market is going to recover sooner or later, and volumes are going to increase.

We all know about crypto market so don't get frustrated of holding coins for long time. This is normally happens in the crypto market holding with patience will give you more benefits.

If you are sick and tired already of crypto, then maybe you lack patience on it. There are things that will not go on as planned and go as what we expected. You have to control your emotions because it might lead you to frustrations and will push you to quit crypto.

Absolutely, losses will come to you once you were controlled by your emotions.  You can't think any positive insights cause you we're block by your negative thoughts.
That's why,  before engaging crypto you better understand the risk inside and not think of easy life in here.

Yes.You're right.Do no expect too much goodness in crypto because everything here should still be work out.If you want to make profit,then take the risks.You should work for it and do not be carried away with your emotions if ever you see negative prices.Cryto has also its own ups and downs just like any other investments.

That is the market. When you join, you have to understand the rules of the game. crypto will not be valid when he knows it and will sideway if it does not have the new information value.

Right.We already knew from the start that crypto investment is not all about making profit.Sometimes you have to deal also with losses particularly if you sell your coins with low prices.So be more patient so you will be able to survive in this crypto investment.

Some people selling their coin because they want to trade and making profits from it. I think its natural because everybody want make profits from this market. We should take an opportunity from this condition, many people panic and we can buying more good coin with cheaper price and hold it untill market recovery. I am believe market will recovery soon

Market recovery can't be overnight, recovery will take a long time and be patient to wait for it. Take a break and don't think too much about the bloody market, because that will make you more frustrated.

Right.The more you monitor the market often,the more stress and pressures you will have.So have a break and treat yourself sometime.It's not bad to stay away from crypto sometimes especially if you feel tired and exhausted.Come back only when you know you are fine already.Crypto investments will surely have its own ups and downs,you just have to deal with it for you to survive.

We are all frustrated, but it is not the first time that the bitcoin is declared dead, and then resurrect in a spectacular way.
After the explosion of last year, a correction was inevitable.
Rather, it is more worrying the fall of the altcoins, which does not have much reason to exist: many products are good, we hope they can do it.

I know living in this crypto world will give you pressures most of the time because of its price up and down.And since the market is really in a downward trend  this past few days,many of us here are now losing hope.But since i have strong faith in bitcoin,i will never lost hope.I still have high hopes that it will bounce again and return to its peak price one of these days.

Being a crypto investor is tiring and can make you sick with stress and pressure. In such periods of decline, it is useful to think a little more comfortably and focus on daily activities. Sometimes it is better not to look at crypto market data at all.

Just be patient. Time will tell if the value of cryptocurrency will rise again. Some loses because they sell their cryptos at a low value compare its cost because they were panic when they see their cryptos drops down.

Psychological attacks make people panic and like their thoughts are disrupted, so decisions are not appropriate. for that, keep calm and hold the assets that they have, so that conditions are not getting worse

I don't know about that but the silver lining is this, all crypto currencies are dirt cheap this year. I mean this year was the first time i could ever afford a whole Bitcoin and that is something. I won't need to worry about crypto currency being all red almost all year this year. The important thing is that this bear market will not last forever.

People like you always get tired with bitcoin. When btc decreasing you guys start abusing bitcoin stop other people to invest.

Watch your words before saying such thing. Stop giving wrong advice to people. If you lose your money its not our fault stop blaming bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. You should learn before invest the main thing is patient which you were unable to apply.

I feel your sentiments but we cant just manipulate the market in our desires. This what makes trading very interesting. There should always be balance involved in the market. This balance will create the winner on the other hand, there also its counterpart that who will lose. Its your own strategy how to earn and not just put all the blame in cryptos with your wrong decision. The world is experiencing a hard moment in the economy, even the first world country is experiencing it. This is why it is taking effect to the trading industry.

Don't let your emotions take the best of you. If we are into cryptocurrency. We should ready ourselves on what will happen. We should understand that every market has its downfall season. So don't get easily frustrated.

I think you should endure the hard times within the crypto market. Crypto really needs time to recover. Moreover, there is time for everything. A time to enjoy and a time to feel frustrated. Last year, the market was good so we were enjoying(except those who entered crypto later this year). I think now that the market has been bad, we should endure and rather think about ways of making crypto great and strong and then hope that, the market will return to normal.

If it makes you so nervous and frustrates you, then just leave it be and focus on something else and more productive in your life.

Everyone wants only the bull market forgetting that everything that goes up will come down and even share market behaves similarly. Yes in crypto it is highly volatile and its being long when the bull run has not happened but patience is the key here.

I think you are trying too seriously to treat this market, because in this way you can hardly earn a lot of money. keep it simple and diversify

This is the optimistic view we should all have.  Instead of being mad about the cheap prices we should  be using this opportunity to buy cheap coins.  All the big whales are using this period to accumulate cheap coins.  A lot of these new investors severely lack patience and they threw their money in crypto expecting to get rich quickly.

Truth is said.

So what is happening by now.
We get to hold it for a long time instead of doing a lot of trades.
Traders become holders and they hate it so much. It will be better sold with a 2 percent loss rather than keeping it for a long time.
A lot may have been with the same shoe.

Since you are very much aware that hold for a period is the only best way to make the value of Bitcoin and other altcoins in a bullish direction, just keep holding and encourage people to hold for i believe same way. Whoever sell at this point is contributing to the downward movement of all the crypto currency market fall.

The market is very chaotic and investors are really in a difficult period when the market fluctuates continuously. Things are going very complicated and this time it is time for investors to make their investment decisions quickly to be able to preserve capital.

Just relax and remain calm! Cryptocurrency takes time before you will become profitable. This is not a salary in your job where you will get it monthly or weekly. Crypto is an investment where you can get the profits in the future. Don't be silly because things will going to its way when you have patience to wait from it.

It maybe true that the market right now is pretty much red. But think about it this way, comapared to last year, almost every crypto currency has increased significantly. Besides, this could be a great opportunity for you to beef up your portfolio and buy more coins and wait for the bull run to begin. I think last quarter or beginning of the 2019 quarter.

It was simple, there was not much usage and it would take a lot of time before the recovery can be complete. People like you had so much to say about disappointments over cryptocurrency but to no avail because there was nothing really we can do without having to change the way we do business with this coins. We need real usage and not just holders because anytime they could just sell what they keep.

any news on social media only affects the market a little. because the most important influence is the investor himself. currently many investors are withdrawing their investments so that the market really falls. to make it go up? of course by buying it back. you don't need to worry, crypto market is still very much in demand by many people so the potential to rise is still high.

i think the news actually has an important role to influence a person's psychology and finally they decide an action. for those who are experienced, of course such moments they use to make maximum profit

And when it increase you start supporting it. I am pretty sure when btc start increase you will join it again. Bitcoin is volatile you should wait instead of blaming and abusing it.

In fact, getting sick and tired at this point, when everyone should be trying to raise their spirit when it comes to accumulating is one pathetic thing to be doing. The market condition is a normal thing.

For instance we are beginning to see a downtrend market for stocks at the moment, and apparently, this is not something that would kill the investors will it? One thing about a market is that there will always be a downtrend and an uptrend no matter how long they last whenever they come, and as long as people refuse to keep it at the back of their head that cryptocurrency market is no different from any other market before they start beginning to reason like proper humans.

Well, before entering in cryptocurrency we should know what are we trying to do with. That is the normal movement of cryptocurrency, just wait and enjoy, don't make your self stress.

Bitcoin can only gives you profit if you work hard and consecrate on your coins. I advice you to go learn how bitcoin work and come back here and lock the topic.

You do not need to be so angry, try to take it more calmly, because one way or another the situation in the market will get better and the market will grow again!

I did get really tired and pissed off some few months ago when the expected bullish run didn't happen as anticipated. It now feels and look like the bullish run isn't going to happen anytime this year again; like alot of persons are now involved in the bitcoin and any chance at of the bullrun means millions of people will automatically become millionaires in dollars and also in their country's respective fiats.

That is the whole point. People would come here having that mentality(to get easy bucks, or bitcoin is an easy money investment. Hold and sell) which is just a pure expectations. Yet when they are already here looking at the price for example $1000 during their purchase but suddenly a few months later they saw the price is now down to around $800. Most of them then gets pretty frustrated.




Exactly, instead of treating the problem most  of this people are just contributing to the problem.

It is always funny that when people are complaining about a red market, I have always loved every part of a market, whether red or green. Red is just a chance to buy a lot back lower as far as I am concerned, and no one should ever expect that a market would just keep growing nonstop without at least having some corrective moments.

Left for some, they would always want to keep seeing moons over and over again. People who are always sick, tired and depressed in situations like this are people who I feel do not even have any long term goals or plans for life, because if they do, they should know better to focus on the long term and buy the dip than whine for reasons only best known to them.

Everybody should not be disappointed about the crash in the market at present. Everyone should look at the bright side of the cryptocurrency and just go with the flow as price goes down and up. The volatility can be controlled if negative feed backs about cryptocurrencies lessens. Focus on the improvements and just keep a positive spirit on our business. Later on, we'll have a good profit.

Before you enter the market, you must realize that here, the situation can change several times a day. You need to have really strong nerves. If you are ready for it, go one, if not, do not even start.

The news will always have an impact generally if you want it to. A lot of people have been bamboozled by the news they see and hear, and they let that affect their judgment simply because they never had the mindset of doing things right in the first place.

I believe anyone with goals which I believe a goal in this space should be more of a long term as long as you are an investor, then they should know better than to be feeling sick and tired of cryptocurrency or call it a bullshit when of course their own level of thinking is the bullshit.

The idea is to scare people like this away anyway, so it is no body's fault if anyone got greedy without understanding the space they are in. Rather than whine and complain, people should learn to buy the dips.

I perfectly understand the state of mind, especially if you see your money disappear.
I can be detached because I have invested only the proceeds of the bounties, which I never considered as "money"; then, seeing that they diminish disturbs me less.
Of course, I'd rather see them grow up ....

seeing bitcoin prices at this time will be boring today compared to the end of 2017, but if you look at the bitcoin prices are still stable for the past 2 months with a slight decline, lots of innovations and ideas on big coins and new arrivals and this will give positive news pads bitcoin and crypto

Right.Crypto investment is really risky because sometimes your expectations will not be met due to its constant changing of its price.But this is normal since crypto is highly volatile from the start.That is why invest only what you can afford to lose so that if time comes that the market price will continue to dump,you won't be much affected.

There's no need to rant or say something bad because of what you have experienced in cryptocurrency investment. The market is just down and it takes time to recover it. Hold your crypto for your future profit's sake and i advise you to invest some during the market crash.

What makes bitcoin users or investors earn money? It should be the movements of the coin and its usage. So many people are getting disappointed about bitcoin and how it had just stayed very long enough at around 6,000$ and worst case the market is very volatile sometimes that it could drop values anytime and as fast as possible and unexpected. Many are angry about this same as you did. Yet you can still do something if you may. Use bitcoin to do business. Earn from it as if you are doing business with fiat. Too many are really waiting and holding not realizing that there is nothing to come not unless bitcoin is really put to actual use. The situation we have now in this bad market is more like a bad ratio between producers and consumers. The holders are like consumers waiting for the gains that producers will be creating but there are too many awaiting and less was producing. How can there be improvements? This is why we can never move from this point in time going up again. Instead of ranting if you really want to change things let your hands do it and not your mouth because it will do nothing.

You have tired with bitcoin and altcoin price always on drop, but you have keep waiting and looking best time for getting bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be on the top price, everything will be possible at bitcoin and cryptocurrency price.

I always say the impatient and emotional people cannot survive in cryptocurrency. For crypto investment patience and courage is mandatory so that you can wait for long and when you lose your money due to fall in the price, you bear that situation easily and cool to hold your coins for long till the price grow again. Panic is something that leads to disappointment.

Those who always complain are those who can not be successful with crypto. Volatility is a part of life on this ecosystem. If you can not be patient when the market is adjusting and recovering. You will only see other people succeed or will continue to admire them.

I think, you have to be more patient and deepen your knowledge about crypto currencies, so you won't complain if the market conditions are unstable or the crypto market experiences a very deep price decline. if you decide to invest in this currency, you must understand all the risks that will occur. crypto prices can be influenced by various things. although there is good news about crypto. not necessarily the price of crypto will rise and vice versa.

Yes, this is what we need to do until the price can increase higher. This year will be difficult to make a big profit, but we could still wait for the crypto market to recover the price. Don't worry and don't panic because you will get the profit again soon, always check the price at the market so you can analyze and see if the price is starting to rise. Never cut loss your coins if you still believe with the cryptocurrency because I am sure that the situations will change and we can recover our losses.

Many peoples get panic and selling their coin with cheap price. I am always believe that cryptomarket will recovery again and most coin price will increasing. We should be patient with our investment because cryptocurrency is long term investment

Maybe you don't fully understand yet if how the cryptomarket really behaves. You have to consider the volatility of the cryptocurrencies listed on it. Expect it to drop like crazy anytime but if you know how to handle situations like that, there's no reason to feel sick and tired of doing cryptos.

Lol don't waste our time to this guy. He didn't knew how this market works perhaps he'll regret for not having enough balls to withstand everything.
It may be better if they just leave the crypto for good so unnecessary dump will lessen.

Yeah I agree with you, this bearish situation of crypto market will never last for long. Soon good days will come again and those that lost their money due to huge dip in the price will recover their deficits. We should be optimistic and positive about the future of crypto. You need to wait for more time. Your tiredness and weakness will automatically change in freshness and healthiness.

I admit, there are also times that i feel the same as you feel and that's just a normal part of growing up in cryptoeconomy.
But instead of prolonging what i feel, i fight back and keep believing that better days are coming that is why i kept on hodling.

We should really sympathize, instead of criticizing impatience and not understanding crypto because even with experienced people and understanding of the market, they have also begun to feel tired of this situation. The market is almost fighting with all, the timing of this opposition has become too long, it goes beyond one's limits, fatigue and complaints are unavoidable emotions but I believe that after he expresses this emotion, he will become comfortable and trust in a good future.

I`m also very tired of this kind of market already and my wallet is already exhausted. I hope the market will go back to it`s track soon.

What you are saying does not make a lot of sense, someone doing that will need to be willing to lose money to implement that strategy, I know that you do not like it but the most simple explanation is that the market is not growing because people are afraid to invest in the market after what happened at the beginning of the year, and to be honest it makes sense if you think about it.

Probably, the guy simply needs to change his activities. If he is still in crypto and feels awful, he is doing the wrong things. This business needs more patient people.

I can relate clearly.
I was at this junction, I know exactly that feeling.
One thing we should understand is that it is in the nature of cryptocurrency to be volatile.
One need to understand how the market works so as to mitigate risks associated with investing in cryptocurrencies.

This will become another "if I would just hold it" moments in Dec.

 It is in the adjustment stage and you should not lose patience and make things mess up. Successful people are those who control the emotions best and analyze the best or the worst. You know, not only Cryptocurrency goes down, stock markets and Forex are still going down. That means we are on a common ground. think more buddy  ;)

Most investors are really pissed off, especially those who have lost a lot of money due to the bear market. I guess they have the right to, however, as an investor, you should be aware that this kind of situation is inevitable in crypto market. That is why you should always be prepared.

Don’t be mate! It is time when all of us should show that how much patience we have and how efficient we are to keep our investment with us for long time, rise and fall are part of life it does not mean one should think negative only because the market is not on the track, bitcoin anonymous and if today the price of bitcoin is down soon it will be high, same as you I am holding and waiting for the market to be normal once again.

Cryptocurrency have a disadvantages and advantages in our life,these crash have given us an opportunity to take advantage on investing,as a matter of fact bitcoins price have never goes so deep lets just have more patience because in the near future we can be successful if we truly believe on bitcoins potential.

Well even though the current market sucks, there isn’t anything that you can do about because from the manner OP is talking, he has lost a lot of money and just want to see his losses reduce but with the price st this moment we can say that it’s stabilized and from the stability we are going to see growth very soon.

Working with cryptocurrencies isn't the shortest way to make "fast" and "easy" money, as so many people think.
You have to study the markets carefully firstly, and you need to get a good knowledge about cryptocurrencies, trading, and blockchain technology to help you choose the most profitable ways of earning money with crypto.
And finally, you should be patient a bit, because earning requires time usually.

I agree with this, you need to take advantage of whatever opportunity the market gives you, in the previous year we had a bull market and we could take advantage of this, and now we have low prices, while many seem to be mad about this, this is a great opportunity because as we know in the future there is going to be another bull market and when that happens if you took the opportunity to accumulate coins at this price then your profits at that time will be amazing.

You’re the one that is making yourself go crazy. I know that you’re still a newbie or maybe you’re not, but you really need to understand that Bitcoin is all about patience. Didn’t you see how much the price of Bitcoin was able to reach in last year? So do you expect the price keep on going up every time? There are also times when the price will fall and when the right time comes, it will also rise again.

So you don’t have to complain, you were the one that got yourself pissed by listening to the rubbish that YouTubers are saying and reading news that are all about guessing what price might be the next moment.

It is strange that people do not realize it. I mean that they think that the cryptocurrencies can make you a rich man very fast. In reality, it is not like this - you have to work too much.

I agree. We can apply here one of the principle ik business in which you are going to change you weakness and make it as an opportunity. Cryptocurrency's weakness is when the price declines then grab this as an opportunity and be smart enough in investing. With this you will not feel bad.

before starting investing, investors must understand and understand all the risks that will be gained in investing in crypto currencies if only seeing the price chart in a few months has experienced a decline, but see the graph from a few years back, the price will increase.

You don't have to force it not to sell everything dude, use your strategy, you can sell it partially to pay for your daily needs and fill your wallet for supplies, and the rest you can hold or grow. sometimes losses must be borne by the trader, because that is a risk in trading,

To make money on cryptocurrency you need to be able to wait, be patient, soon you will see growth:)

But that is the issue, many do not really understand the true nature of cryptocurrencies and prefer to think that the only possible outcome for them is to earn money, when anyone that has some knowledge about investments knows that it is impossible for anyone to win all the time or for the market to always go up, I can accept that fact and I do not know why some other people can't.

i hope that moment come back soon.

I believe that everyone has its own sentiments about cryptoccurrencies whether it is a happy or sad experience. If you will not experience such things, you will not grow as a crypto investor or enthusiast. You better hold on of your cryptos and wait for a chance to have them grow.

right, that good or bad experience should be a correction. so that in future it is expected that good experiences will occur continuously, that means we achieve consistent profits

I am agree with you. If we are patience with our investment, i am believe we will gain profits. Bitcoin is not short term investment and we should not listening on negative news. Better keep positive with our own investment and i am believe long term is good option when we invest on bitcoin

we all just learn and see previous experience, I'm also sure the price of all crypto will increase. this is my experience last year in early 2017, I know BTC prices are very cheap but now it's over $ 6000, how stupid I was last year not to buy more and this year sell it, now I'm sure the next year 2019 we no longer see btc prices $ 6500 I guarantee that.

Perhaps this is already the cycle ecosystem of this business industry, were the market was manipulated by the whale investors. And we as an ordinary traders won't do anything about it to make our way to get profit thru doing trade in the market, where most often the players in every exchange are still come what may accepting the fact. But of course we shouldn't be stop why we are here.

I guess that is something we won't stop seeing in this space. Getting pissed for the state of the market, when you should be looking for opportunities in the state of the market is the main reason why a lot of people have ended up screwing up big time and then looking for someone to blame for their screw ups.

If he is sick and tired, I believe he knows the way out than whining and in the long run, maybe in the next few years, they are the sort of people that keep coming back to give us the stories of the life on how they missed buying lower and now have to buy at a much higher price. Patience is a virtue, and that is why not everybody can have such attribute.

Once after investing, we have to consider both the upward trend and the downward trend because when the price is in downtrend people will start thinking negative about the market which it is impossible to guess when it will start increasing again. This makes many people sick about the market.

I think the number of panic sellers are increasing because they're not ready to wait. I know may peoples are disappointing with bitcoins value and its rate. Instead of increasing its decreasing but it doesn't mean bitcoin is destroying.

The whole cryptocurrency thing became somewhat stale from around May/June; this was about the last time I made use of the exchange site to sell any of my tokens for Ethereum. It has really being boring for me while anticipating the break of the bullrun!
Another thing that comes to mind is the fact stated in your fifth paragraph of a barrier being put in place to truncate the rate at which people were getting rich through the cryptocurrency. This, if true, has been well achieved for now.

Yeah I don't understand how people even enter this market if they are not aware about the harsh conditions that will arise up front. Its really funny how they argue about it later on when things are getting messy. When I first entered the market then also I lost huge money out of my pocket but I did not argue about it but I was just surprised how bad this could go. So then onwards I always consider X % loss will come to my share no matter what I do. This is just natural cycle of the crypto currencies to enter the bear market and bull market. So why to argue about it if we know the consequences of investing into it.

What do you mean by the statement that prices are not moving up when they should be, is there any particular time for prices to move up? That’s why we tell you that Bitcoin and altcoins are volatile. Cryptocurrencies are volatile so you can’t predict them.

You should stop believing what YouTubers have to say, they are just people like you seeking for ways to earn and what they do is make video and get people to click on their videos and watch Google ads, that way they will make money. So never trust them, they know nothing about this.

Patience is the characteristic that all great investors have, it is very easy to try to blame the whales or anyone else for our mistakes, but it does not matter the size of the investor, we are all looking for the same thing and that is to make money, trying to blame the whales only shows that a person does not seem to have the necessary skills to make money in the market and it is trying to shift the blame to someone else, not realizing that doing such a thing does not enable you to learn the necessary lessons to become a better investor.

people think negatively because people do not believe that prices will rise and are afraid if they lose later because of the panic and immediately sell it. but the down price has become commonplace for all of us, rest assured that prices will soon rise and the market will stabilize again. it may take 2-3 years to reach high prices.

Don't be pressured or stressed about crypto currency as the organization said that it is just a temporary down of all market value. Just HODL and be PATIENT.

If you are impatient in cryptocurrency then you will absorbed the pressure in cryptos and you will be sick and tired and want to quit crypto, we can avoid this pressure by relaxing , do not be overload just work hard the normal way and be patient for all your activities , and do not be panic ,always have confidence and trust that you will complete all your tasks.

This is just due to people's mindset, when you get to dig into it can be pathetic sometimes. Take a look around today, and all you will see are people who are so bound on getting rich as quick as they can and then looking for every means around to do so, without wanting to ask questions or learn. I see people like this as a paper being driven back and forth in a wind, and could just land anywhere.

No knowledge, no focus, no long term goals, no plans for the future, and I wonder how people like this really want to thrive in the long run and not just fail, and start ranting on why the whole space suck when they actually are the ones that suck.

Crypto are highly volatile and due to which the fall and rise are very steep. One has to have the patience and take steps accordingly so that you can make money by investing smartly and do end up in a loss. Have the strategy which will help for short , medium and long term.

The world is considering groups that want to see a decline in the cryptocurrency market. Some groups do not want cryptocurrency to depreciate. This is a game. This is by no means nonsense. This is the effect of cryptocurrency. There will be more cryptocurrency remarks in your life in the future.

You are too pessimistic. Suppress your emotions and understand that the market is alive and exists in real time and by its own rules. Traditional markets are also developing in the same way. You can search the Internet for graphics and you should understand that everything will be fine. you have 1 bitcoin in your wallet, rejoice and wait for your time, which will definitely come. The market is developing, new functions and technologies are being introduced. This will simply have a positive impact on the market. And bots have nothing to do with it.

I don't feel tired of holding any coins in my wallet because I am not yet reached my goals. It makes me think that I still strong to hold the coin although it will need a long time to see the price increase. I am sure that this is going to end and the price will increase higher again, and in that time, I will make a big profit because I have many coins in my wallet. I still want to buy more amount for every coin I have because I see that once the price moves to the higher price, I will double my profit.

do the analysis first with a cool head don't use emotion if you want to trade because in my opinion it is very dangerous. and can be what you are experiencing right now, learning to be patient in the face of the market do not be greedy and rushed

You should not just look at the Cryptocurrency market. You should have a broader view of the world economy. The good news that kept the Crypto market as good as now. If you read news on the stock market, Dowjone stock market fell more than 4.6% in the past Monday. The stock market has evaporated for several billion dollars. You should read more news.

To be honest, he was pessimistic and tired when he faced the whole market was right, the market this year is really bad compared to the development in other years, explosion in emotion is inevitable, even if you are a person who has a lot of experience in this market, you will still feel like him. Although we all know that everything and information around us can give us hope and positive but the actual scene is so different, the red is still covering the market while the hope is too much, I sympathize for this feeling and hope he will be more comfortable when he has revealed his feelings

Now, if you look at these conditions an investor gets panic and tired in such situations are due to few things we are missing. If we make another source of income outside crypto that is for other needs while crypto investment though huge profitable but sometimes it takes a long time to recover its price  and you will be panic definitely. Diversification of amount in multiple places will enable you to wait long as well as you will reach at your destination.

Crypto trading is high risk which can mean high reward but can equally mean getting totally loss!  There are plenty of stories on nvestors making stupid mistakes and losing everything. People are still making money.

They are easily sick and tired, usually they are people who are very sensitive easily influenced by negative news and FUD. These problems are prone to occur in those who are still beginners. HOLD is the best method we have to do when we face the conditions of the market which is increasingly uncertain.

The current market does make you tired and you will become depressed if you keep thinking about it. Well, if you want profit then you must have patience and without patience, the panic will feel.

Price is $6,300 which is still high for me as compare to 1$ isn't ?. Just give sometime to bitcoin and wait it will brings a lots profits.

This cryptocurrency business is a very volatile market and one should not expect back quick millions because of the market phases that can take the market in any direction. So if you have lost and cannot wait for the boom again, better leave and invest in a market with daily income flow. The ultimate reason behind the investment is to earn money right? You can earn it in any business. But to be honest, crypto is a magical thing.

Maybe you're tired because you were unable to show patient but its not our fault you can blame other but not bitcoin and at least please stop saying such thing against bitcoins. You're just disturbing the newbies.

Well, I am pretty sure that is what a lot of people get to think about when coming in to this space. They heard bitcoin was mooning and going to $1million and then thought it is something that would happen overnight.

Of course, it is not a crime to want to get rich, but it is stupidity for anyone to think that for no reason, a market will just be moving up for no reason when it is just speculative driven and then thinking that would be sustainable. People need to understand the space they are in, the risks involved and the best ways to be making decisions for the long term, than just thinking of some quick means to get rich.

I have a question where were you when bitcoin was just $100?. You're just caught by panic and nothing. Bitcoin is stil high and giving profit to there users we can't control the bitcoin price we have to patient when it fall.

It means that you are impatient and it is not good for cryptocurrency investor. You should remain cool and if possible forget about your holding for some time. I am sure this bearish market will end soon and good days will return. You should be optimistic about the future of cryptocurrency and don’t be panic about the current situation of the market. Soon you will get big money against your holdings.

People are now days against bitcoins. Just because bitcoin price is falling and not giving profit to them. They should wait and give some times to cryptocurrencies because not only bitcoin but all cryptocurrencies are falling down.

You're wrong. You should not depressed with current situation. You're not alone there was a time when i think the same that bitcoin is bullshit and nothing. I suggest you to do the same thing give chance to bitcoin and hold them.

I am also disappointed and want to end this but then I have no power to stop the people to sell because I myself really shaken in this market. It makes me stop and just like quiting but I realized that the world is circle it will never be in down there will be time for ups.

I see you're trying to hypnotize the charts so they start to grow. I think you're doing something wrong instead of just waiting.

Take a suggest, buy some bitcoin and forget about them better to hold them for some years. I know it would be hard for you but that's why bitcoin work.

I don't think you're right. You're hurting yourself by paying too much attention to crypto, it may ruin your health. Crypto doesn't necessarily need to grow constantly, you have to accept that.

I think you are being too emotional because of the current market situation. If you are not prepared for this kind of situation, I think you will most likely lose money in cryptocurrency. Some traders or investors are being wise during this bear market, instead of being stressed and ranting they take the most of it by buying cheap and holding.

Actually we had had great market and enough booms in the Bitcoin in recent years and those who were aware of the benefits invested and cashed millions. If you are the new investor who came to know about it after the boom, better keep waiting because we will have a green market in future.

It would not be wise to quote a time for the boom but it would be definitely a wise move to invest now as the coins are available at low cost compared to the prices in boom. Besides, you are to act rationally and this means that there can be so many ups and downs in the market but that would not be forever so better stay motivated.

Yeah you are right and that why they lose their money. I think if the market is bad and there is no positive trend in the market you should wait for more otherwise you will lose your money. It is better to hold your coins for more time instead of losing it. If in the future the price grows and you have no holdings then what will you do? Be energetic and strong to earn big profits in the future.

This is due to a bearish trend for almost the year and those investors that can't wait for the bounce back are now in panic to find any option to sell their coins at cheaper price. If this trend will continue for next year, I don't know if we can't attract new buyers in crypto.

new comer or experience one?
its about how to patient. if you just holding, buying, follow the flow, you cant be rich like expert. you know, trading can give your more coin. you can take chance when the market low, trade as much as possible to multiple your money.
sometime people just said about negative thing than they share positive thing

Had this being the other way round like market kept on rising this people would have appreciate it and said all good things. Only thing it is down people are getting negative about it and forgetting that it gonna be volatile. Some time it will fall and other time it will rise.

Well there are less panic sellers and weak hands in thr market right now to drag us all down, hence the quite steady price. Plain and simple, if you think it's bs and you can't cope with the crazy movements, then it's probably not for someone like you in the first place.

I think I will rather be very blunt here. If you feel you are tired and sick of cryptocurrency, please and please, kindly use the exit door. I mean leave now! But in 5 years time or more, when you attempt returning, you would be able to estimate how much time or money you may have lost as a result of your ill decision today.

Cryptocurrency is long term investment and i am believe its profitable if we hold it for long term. Most peoples just want quick profits without considering the project. If the project is good, i am believe our patience well payed

Yes, almost all the investors are worried about their investments as we have been noticing the downfalls and now the value does not proceed forward. The value fluctuates a little bit between 6k dollar and 6.5k dollar but situations are still better than price movement in the previous years.

You have noticed that lowest values in the past were below 4k dollar and it seems minimum value is 6k dollar this year so we should be optimistic about the future and should wait for some more time.

I know many peoples are frustrated with bitcoin price. Market is keep decreasing and many people are losing their interest. Please stop saying such thing and be patient.

I think you're one of them who do already panic sell and open this topic to make newbie mind to stay away. Well you do panic you're not aware that its volatile anything can be happen tomorrow.

High risk in crypto market does not mean that we leave it completely. Trading involves a lot of experience and only those who are used to it can survive this market.

You are not a rational investor. You should learn encryption knowledge and should not take the opinions of others. Investment needs to be done by yourself.

You have to be patient with a falling market, don't let yourself be frustrated and think by choosing low sales. strengthen yourself, and if you have reached the limit of your fatigue, rest for some time to come.

The prices of bitcoin are stabilizing, the people who invested earlier in 2017 are happy with their investment. But those who invested in last month of 2018 and not aware of cryptocurrency market nature when cryptocurrency market was bullish, they have a valid reason to worry. I consider them not to worry about the current situation and consider it as a long-term investment. The Bitcoin and crypto market is currently in stabilizing mode which is good news for investors.

Each one had negative emotions when he understood that he failed. I do not think that it is the right decision to share this depression mood with all of us. Stay more positive.

in this case it seems like an evolution, for those who are patient and never give up, of course they will get big profits later. even we can achieve financial freedom from trading results

I think you don't have to be sick and tired of cryptocurrency bullshit, it will waste your time. Instead of that, you should spend more time to learn about cryptocurrency and accept the crash at this time. Good luck.

I think many people feel like you. I myself have sometimes become saturated with this situation. but I am not too much like you. depending on each person in dealing with situations like this. and I prefer to look for other income and not think too much about the state of the market. indeed patience is indispensable for now, and I feel that looking for other jobs such as participating in various campaigns might be a bit of a relief when faced with the current conditions.

When you trade or invest all you need is patience and is ready to wait so that what you have can benefit you, don't be easily affected by the many bad news circulating.

Why should the prices be moving up now? What are the positive news you are talking about? Any breakthrough project has just presented its breakthrough product? They are just promising that they will create their main net in bla-bla quarter 2019. The road maps are shifted to several months, almost all long-awaited ICOs are moved to 2019. So I really don't understand why this stable downtrend pisses you off so much - it is natural and, in fact, should have been predicted by crypto followers.

We can't do anything with the bear right now but to embrace it.

Learning while being here would give you advantage and idea on what you should do when we will approach the same bear in the future. But at least now, those who are tired of the market are showing their true natures. They are for the profit which is the major reason why everyone is here but it comes with patience.

Very predictable. People who heard about bitcoin and decided to make money on it, in most cases, are deeply convinced that everything is very simple. And earnings on cryptocurrency they compare with freebies. But no! It is the same intellectual work. Currently, nothing is given so easily. And in the crypto-currency market it is necessary to work very hard and constantly learn in order to increase your financial condition.

Sometimes I feel tired of waiting especially when the market takes months before its rise. But I keep myself to be more optimistic all the time because having a tired feeling it won't help you and possible make you decide that you might regret. So everytime time I feel tired, I focused myself in other things not in market situation. So to all don't give up easily just always think the times you earn a lot in crypto, and think it will happe again .

You are in a negative state and you can not see the overall situation of the economy. How can Cryptocurrency grow while the world's economy is slowly degrading? If you answered this question, I think you will have to think differently. do not be too negative. Optimistic thinking will make you easy to get rich.

Im still quite agree with the OP with the bearish market. The current state condition of the market is not good. Eveb if you are that optimistic still it will not guarantee that market will gone to good. We should know the real reason for this long bearish time of cryptocurrency. I could not imagine also why this things happen but so far market is now stabilized. Hope to see good market in the near future because if not, then I better withdraw all my investments.

Cryptocurrency is looking for stability as it is one of the conditions to go mainstream. For more than a month, here is the stability cryptocurrency is waiting for. However, the sad part here is that stability happens at a low price. You don't have to get disappointed with current situation, what is important here is how the technology included in this cryptocurrency will revolutionize financial transaction.

Yes everyone is sick and tired of crypto crashes,it takes too long.but we still hope for The pump in the future.That all our frustrations now will successful soon because of rising prices is soon to be made.

Crypto currency is new for me but cryptography is old as i am MS in computers.
Believe me bullshit is just as young as 8 years now , more tantrums coming soon.

I am agree with your opinion, rather than cursing market condition better we looking an opportunity. Most coin and token in market having red and the price getting lower but i am believe cryptocurrency market will always runs. Better buying more token or coin with good prospect and hold it until market recover again

This is what we call the curse of anonymity, deregularization and volatility-- all in one package. I for one am also observing these kind of things in the cryptosphere, and I am not liking it at all. BUt what can I do?-- absolutely nothing. If one will get affected, then crypto will get the best out of you. Just don't be carried away and just ride against the current. That is if all people will tell you to sell, then might as well not sell at all. This is something that I am in the process of practising so that crypto stress will not get to me.

Kick against crypto today and regret later. Cryptocurrecny require patience sometimes because the market movement has never been a smooth one since its inception. It is required that all investors study the history of the trend of the market before investing - this will reduce the frequent panic whenever the price go down. The market will recover as usual, let's be patient.

Don't put your emotions specially in crypto because it will take you nowhere, this stabilize movement in bitcoin price is a good sign that something big will happen and we just need to be patient because there's a lot of improvement going on the crypto world.

Mistakes are done by people and it’s the people who do mistakes first and then learn from it. Crypto Trading is also no different and we need same patience as required in other walks of life.

everyone experiences that feeling man. they are sad because the price does not recover yet. but if you intend to invest long term.
why are you still worried? all you have to do is be optimistic and hold it back. Do not be afraid

Don't mind the people selling their holdings and focus on your own holdings by actually beefing it up by buying coins you can afford now that is a bear market and simply hold on to them and keep your ears to the ground for any news of. I myself have bought a whole BTC among others to boost up my portfolio and i suggest you do the same.

It is the time when market is low ideally all the big players buy during low but people do exactly opposite of it  . They buy when it is rising and not when it is at low. This results in losses for them as market crashes after reaching high and this results in the losses for many as they do not know when to sell.. I also believe in same thing to keep buying whenever market falls and keep it.

when you are tired of cryptocurrency then you should be able to get out of cryptocurrency and try to do or look for other activities that can give you more profit and you should not return to cryptocurrency anymore, because cryptocurrency requires very high patience.

I agree to several altcoins, but bitcoin and a lot of crypto cannot change because there are only a few sentiments, all move normally without the intervention of certain parties, and under any market conditions, complaining will only make you more left behind and more people will still thinking optimistically and buying your assets that you sell too hastily.

Does it seem to me, or is there some problem with this?

The cue ball is now used only by trades. The only meaning of its presence today is the hope that tomorrow it will be possible to sell more than yesterday. Only Monero has a real economy, which without him poploheet.

too much complaining will reduce our confidence, so that the psychological disturbance, and ultimately self-harm. indeed need a large amount of stimulus to move prices. and i think many are waiting for that to happen, and that is their reason for surviving

I agree with you, the best thing to do is to extend our patience more longer and avoid complaining because this will only affects our positive mind, we need believe that all of that's happening now is just temporary and all will rise again soon.

At some point, I was depressed too but it won't change a thing. I believe the market will recover but when, no one knows. I'll only admonish you to take position on some coins you believe because this space can improve your financial status if you can wait. I think it's a circle and the process would repeat itself again just wait for it and keep being an enthusiast like myself.

Its true. As long term investor, we should see an opportunity when market drop. We can buying more coin with lower price because people panic. Cryptocurrency is long term investment and i am believe market will recover again because many big finance institutional already said crypto is digital asset

indeed we must always think forward because there is no success achieved by humans suddenly, all must go through a long process if you want to get the best, crypto currency is indeed less stable for now but this is only a process of transition from a currency revolution the world, we must be patient not to give up easily ...

if your sick and tired of crypto's then you'd better quit permanently but i dont understand why are you still here posting ?


cryptocurency isnt about long term investment  but actually it is also suitable for short term because there are coin's that only built for it , bitcoin or example is good for shorter term because its value can manage to pump hard in just a short time frame and altcoins such as etherium are the best for long term because their value are more stable and slowly increasing in a long period of time .

most importanty , cryptocurrency is not only for investment purposes because they can also be used for payment or currency use  .

There have been many users depressed about the situation of cryptocurrency. Price has not progressive in the market for long now. However, I believe this is not the end market value would become profitable by any means.

I agree. Being depress can do nothing for the progress of the market but can only contribute on the fall on the market. I believe by all means potential coins can recover on the market and our wait can worth much longer. I am not being tired of crypto because I take chances to buy more at this moment.

Exactly, its a great time to increase positions, OP try read some books on psychology and financial trading, theres a really good book called trading in the zone by Mark Douglas.

He will give you some pointers on how to understand the bigger picture of what is happening right now, how markets are just wealth redistribution engines and why they are important for price finding and price regulation.

The Mania Cycles like we saw in Jun-Dec 2017 were merely a reward mechanism for early speculators and a way to finance future development of the technology as a whole.

Do not think much about cryptocurrency bullshit, I think you should spend more time to learn about crypto world and how to deal with its low time.

Correct, there's no room here for that kind of attitude, that doesn't qualify. One of the traits of being a crypto holder is patient, has the willingness to wait and always persevere.

Well if you think your tired of crypto then go youll be free after all no one keep you still if your sick of it,if you fail here and dont take a deep patience well this crypto is not for you i guess,.but not all here fails because i am just one of those beleivers and got here with lots of blessings.

Quitting at this time is not a good idea. Slow and steady wins the race. The state of the market today might not be the same tomorrow. Crypto will rise again.

If that is your attitude towards investment you will never earn a good income. Be positive and increase more patience because if you will be too emotional you will lost all of your investment. Take advantage on the downfall of the market and analyze the market really well to be able to strategize well. Always put in mind that you should only invest what you can afford to loose.

You honestly have the right to feel that way but unfortunately, the feelings will not change the facts on ground. Those people you accused of manipulating the market have been in the market from time immemorial so they won't stop doing it. People have also benefitted from this manipulations one way or another. Rather than getting frustrated, I suggest you stay focused and make the most of the market.

Start to consider cryptos as a commodity not as a currency  :)

Honestly, I am feeling the same thing sometimes where I feel really unfortunate and disappointed here in crypto world. However, I am still hopeful about the better possibilities that might happen. Things will get better soon and I believe that good days are coming.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories in general, and this one, in particular, is not an exception. Since the weakness of the arguments was already shown by previous posters I would rather express my theory on what's going on on the market and why the price is stable despite of the good news.

Yes, after seeing the news more people start buying BTC and other established cryptos, but the amount they are buying, combined, is not that big to start a bullish trend, considering that there are still holders with dozens of thousands BTC who want to exchange it for fiat. But since those holders have a lot of BTC they don't want to be a cause of a bearish trend, so they stop selling immediately when the price starts going down. What's going on can be called redistribution, coins migrate from a few wallets of whales to thousands and thousands wallets of new adopters. Obviously, this process can't last forever, and the price will start rising when the whales will have nothing to sell anymore.

The world of crypto loves only very positive people, and it lets them make good money. When a man is thinking about the cryptocurrency negatively, he should better stay away from it.

People wait for 3 years or more, to get returns from their investment in the stock market. In case of bullion, this time period can be even longer, like 5 years or 10 years. Then why can't you wait for one or two years with crypto?

You have canceled and pause for invest your money at crypto or bitcoin, you have faced many drama on this years where bitcoin price always dump. You can try other way for getting profit like you can take for get your own ico coin for selling to investor.

Why so many people don't want to soberly assess the situation？ After the crazy growth of bitcoin last year, it was naive to believe that this would last forever. This falling prices was predictable. Based on this logic, we can assume that its fall will not be eternal. So stay healthy and just wait.

Actually, I want to know first on how long have you been here? You should be ashamed acting like that if you just started to enter this market a year ago and then rant like that. Some of the people here started in 2013 or 2014 but I hardly read some of their statements that goes like that.

Relaxing friends don't worry about cryptocurrency, the important thing is to stay focused on life goals, crypto was born in 2009,
Don't complain, keep trying and trying someday crypto will definitely side with you. The important thing is to give the best for the community both forum and crypto. enjoi ...

I think you invested your money this year maybe since january and so on just be positive because your not the only one that are eperiencing that kind of sickness and tiredness in waiting. Just keep on your mind that anytime in this coming months it will start increasing it's value.

not even a few people who leave the cryptocurrency because of depression face a market situation that is always decreasing, but for me, people who leave the cryptocurrency are only users who have just been involved in this field so they have not fully understood market price movements

I have worked with several cryptocurrency bots and none of them is making profit now. To make money on the market, we need more significant fluctuations. I doubt that it is profitable for someone to use bots now. And if you work with a big shoulder, now it's dangerous. The fact is that the market has reached the point where no one can figure out what to do — buy or sell. All - in standby mode. Therefore, the volumes in the market are falling.

when you are tired of cryptocurrency and you are very disappointed with cryptocurrency actually it is your fault because in the world of cryptocurrency this very important thing is from the patience that you have and from the way you trade, if you want to always benefit then the best way is to understand the place of exchange and as much as possible to remain calm.

To many emotions and having little to no patience will be a very bad thing to have when investing in any market, definitely new and emmersing markets like Crypto.

If you are getting that much frustrated, then it may not be a bad idea to take a small break of some two or three months. Forget about crypto and try investing in mutual funds or real estate. If everything goes as per the plan, then you can come back and try your luck with crypto again after sometime.

There are no funds on the market, they are concentrated in a narrow circle of owners. Weak left the market. Who else hold on and will not give up.Who else keeps he will not give up already.

Patience to hold crypto is important, be patient for your initial purpose of entering crypto, and if you give up then you will lose your profits. Cryptocurrency still has a future and you will be able to benefit by holding it.

Please there is no point ranting. By now, you should know that the crypto market space have different categories of people. Those truly for crypto, some who are just spectators, and others who are trying to pull it down. All this forces are always at play, that is one you may never see your own expected prices. Even as you see the hypes, some persons are not cool with it. Some even which the price crashes so that they can buy cheap and join the crypto train. So you see, everyone cannot like the high prices at the same time.

We still need to cover up a huge volume of investors who are desperate to invest in the crypto market and I believe that there is no doubt in the fact that Bitcoin will expand the circle even further.

After the 2017 boom, huge amount of people showed interest in this new way of making money and this time, when the boom is high, further expansion will lead to a more huge market cap, a more advanced technology and more benefits. The governments across the world would also think about recognizing the technology.

Your mistake may lie in you who cannot control your emotions and your patience is very difficult to control, when you trade you must be patient and as much as possible not to be affected by bad news or panic fast. because it will make you lose like this.

Actually if you are tired about the cryptocurrency you can simply quit and leave its not like that, you say un nice words and opinions about the crypto. I understand where you came from but hope that what you experiencing right now will end and you finally found peace in your heart. I know you enjoy cryptoin the past,  if your not happy  then you are free to go.

Aren't you being too harsh on him? He had a rough time with crypto currencies. This does not necessarily means that you will start bashing him and encourage to leave the community. Instead, you should be consolidate him and encourage him to stay. You should be enlightening him and sharing your own experience to make him feel better. Right now we can not afford to lose people from the community. The more we have, the strong the currency will be.

in my opinion not only those of you who feel saturated see the current market movements. already tired enough to wait for prices to rise and stabilize upwards. but I think, I myself must remain patient in facing this kind of situation if I want to benefit. and I try to do various things that can eliminate current boredom. for example I am looking for a job that can make money for my daily needs. and that slightly relieves the pain when I see prices that don't recover soon enough.

Your anger doesn't make sense.
I can't explain (within the framework of cultural words) the logic on the basis of which such posts are written. Why do people complain all the time?
Recently, it has become increasingly difficult for me to reconcile with such complaints. Why do people think that someone doesn't exposes them to make money in the crypto market?
When Bitcoin was at $ 20,000, many complained that its price was high and they could not buy it. Now that the price is excellent for purchase, many complain that the price is too low and Bitcoin will die soon. Dear ones, no one bothers you to buy bitcoin cheaply and sell expensively, all the conditions have been created, you don't do it yourself.
You guys need to stop this. If you believe in crypto currency and want to earn money on it, then no one bothers you. Get the necessary knowledge, practice and earn. But if you do not believe in crypto currency, then you better leave this market and do something else. This place is not for you.

Everyone has their own circumstances. I spend some bitcoin every week on this or that. Others may only be interested in converting to fiat because they see no value in BTC, only fiat. I disagree, but so what. None of that matters to bitcoin. It is just money. It was not created as an "investment". It is a fair system for all because it cares for none of us.

i think it will lose if it sells at a low price, except for trading, because what is important for them is profit. i think today many people are panicking because until near the end of the year, prices are not in line with expectations

You need to overcome your frustration and cope with emotions. You can perfectly see that in the same situation as you, there is a very large number of people. Imagine, that such thoughts will appear in everyone, what's then? Now, on the contrary, you need to think positively and not be upset.

Let him be yet you cant change other persons attitude on the first place if he do have that view then telling him to be concerned on op would be useless but overall I do agree on the things you had said.
It shouldn't be bashed out too much yet we do experience similar emotions for sure when you are an investor seeing this situation would really put you into a point where you are
confused on whats going on with the price even if we do see positive and hypes out there but the price still keeps falling. Breaking out our expectations would really give out some reactions.

Bitcoin is volatile, investors should be ready to face both the good, bad and ugly of bitcoin. The price of bitcoin is currently unpredictable, but hopefully it will moon.

Well, positive reports are always there, everywhere. Sometimes I am thinking if these crypto enthusiasts are just entertaining and giving themselves a hope when everything that they see in the graph everyday is straight line. A lot of false hope are spreading and yet There is no glimpse of it coming.

It's really tiresome and boring to see the market down for so many months now especially when you need some funds for your personal needs because it's also hard if you are going to sell your cryptos at a losing price. Instead, you'll keep on holding and extend your short term plan into a long term plan.

You don't need to be sick and tired. all investments must have risks we must accept. and I think in all investments like the money market and stocks there must be big traders who can always manipulate the market. also in the cryptocurrency there are big whales who can manipulate the market they buy and sell coins in large quantities so that it has an impact on market conditions. and we cannot avoid this situation we must accept it. what is needed in crypto investment is not only capital but also patience in facing the market.

Please calm down. The negative response is unnecessaryy and will never be helpful. Bear in mind that cryptocurrency is not like our fiat currency that is easily influenced by how the world ec0nomics is behaving. Cryptocurrency is kbown yo be very volatile and unpredictable most of the times. But rest assured sir that these things will not be temporary as most coins are undergoing correction. For the mean time we should all be wise in our investments and calculate our moves.

Despite the good news and good news about Crypto, you should know that this is a decentralized market. The values of the altcoins are managed by the whales and this is a market of psychology. The news will not be able to affect investors if the whale does not act. That is what you should know about the nature of the market!

Of course more turnouts are on the way and a year of down prices cannot take the market away. We have had similar types of events back in the past and i believe that the market will grow with the passage of time onward as well. In addition, there is a huge number of people outside the circle who are still to demand for the coins so of course the market would observe big turn outs in future as we happen to have further advancements in the technology.

Do you think, the guy that has such emotions must do it? For him, the best way out is to quit. The crypto world is waiting for the new men that are ready to overcome all the difficulties and move forward.

I also experience getting sick and tired of waiting for something but in Cryptocurrency you must be positive because it can really make your investments grow when it started to increase the value in the market. Just keep your mind calm because your not the only one who's waiting to much for the increase of their investments.

why do you look so disappointed? Have you experienced a large loss from the current market price decline?
do not think too much about the negative, the current market situation is something that is common in cryptocurrency, we must be more patient again and continue to monitor price developments.

Failures are part in the world of cryptocurrency, it could be discouraging but dwelling on such feeling won't help you at all. If it doesn't work for you, find another strategy,change your plan but not the goal. Failure is the first step of success, it's a test of motivation, and determined. Don't lose hope, keep strength and positivity going. Never stop learning, don't be hesitant to ask help from experts, and most of all be persistent.

I am gorwing tired  not beause the market is in full bear mode with very few little sparks of life but because of the share number of unproffesional greedy people who manage to rise funds in ICOs , these kinds of people and their actions are annoying as hell.

I do not think that you must have such negative thoughts. If you stay positive, you will get more - this rule works all the time. I hope, next year will be the best time for the cryptocurrencies.

No one is out there to get you, it is true that from time to time some good news appear and the market doesn't move, that doesn't mean that the market is being manipulated that means that those that have the money to move the market do not really care about the news that appeared, they do not consider it important and it's obvious that the majority of people think the same way if the price doesn't move, instead of trying to find excuses or explanations for it just accept it.

That is the only healthy attitude that you can take when that happens, as a trader you cannot let your emotions take control of you and that seems like what it's happening to you, if you let `it you are surely going to lose money because you are going to try to be smarter than the market and you are going to try to prove it wrong when the market is never wrong.

right, positive thinking will bring positive energy too. therefore we must remain optimistic to stay strong so as not to create an increasingly bad atmosphere. everything starts from yourself

Now everyone has the same feelings as you, it is very difficult now to remain in the cryptocurrency world, seeing how the market is constantly falling and nothing good happens, but you should believe in the best and hope that everything will work out, try to overcome yourself.

Exactly. We need to understand the fact that bitcoin is slow source. You can’t just make profit in a day or two. This needs long time. plus, those who are waiting or been involved in this for long and long time, they are patient. So why these newbies are cramming like a kid. They want instant results but dudes, this is a patience game. If you have that one, do play otherwise leave.

It is just a situation the market is in. We just got to wait and see. There have been times in Bitcoin history where these bearish times happen and we just need to live through them.

Just keep calm and wait.

When we lost much money with crypto investment we always think crypto and bitcoin is bullshit, but if always got profit with bitcoin we say bitcoin is the best investment way for increase and get much profit, we have control and ready when some time we lost money with bitcoin or altcoin investment,

Well i think you are not prepared to invest in crypto currencies with the reaction that has brought to you. It is normal for newbies in the crypto market to feel that way. The best thing to do is to analyze first and you should be prepared to the risk that you are going to face. Never invest if you cannot accept the risk because you might loose all your investment specially during the down fall of the market.

- Positive thinking is always a double-edged sword, it can be a good thing when it brings a lot of positive energy to us, helps us escape the sad and bad atmosphere but in return, it is just a way for us to hide and not accept the reality. And if positive thoughts do not happen as we wish, the frustration will be bigger than normal, we will not be able to bear this emotion, even thinking of the death or have stupid actions, so I sincerely advise people not to always think too positively, we should live with reality, accept and share emotions, it will relieve the fatigue in the crypto, instead of trying to forget reality

The market situation gives all the conclusion to stop at the moment in cryptocurrency specially in investment. Definitely, we just want here to experience money making. Yes it is good but do not be depressed just because of market condition. For OP, why you make things more complicated? You see how market full of blood, then you may change your way on how to earn money. Don't only depend on market try to lool at alternative way of earning.

There is no point in getting angry with market conditions, because getting into crypto is your choice, you should be able to be patient to deal with this situation. Calm yourself and be patient, because the market needs time to recover.

The crypto space is so massive that it will not take effect if a group of people quit crypto altogether, that being said the price of bitcoin is always righteous because the activity is always met whether it is in blood bath or forest sight.

If your portfolio divide the price in half sorry that's only natural.

Here if you lose hope it means that you can never growth in the crypto now and if you have patience and you work in hard times in crypto so you will feel good and I think after hard times good time also comes so we have faced the hard times of the year 2018 but may be in the near future we can achieve our goal very easily so don't be hopeless and patience is the key to success. \present market need some attention of the investors for steady growth.

I think we are all getting tired of what is happening in the market, you just need to look at the markets to feel depressed about what is happening and despite all of that the only thing that we can do is to keep holding our coins because if you sell them then you are going to lose money and you are going to give up any chance of recovering that money in the future.

Indeed, it just normal to feel that way because all investors even the successful had experience this but you must learn from it, you must learn patience. If have no passion in investing in crypto then you shouldn't be here because you can't even wait. It is funny to think that when market is in good shape everyone is fired up and if it is in bad shape everyone is becoming sick of it which is wrong and we should avoid that.

in the business world many capital owners use various ways to be able to buy goods at low prices, of course this is something small traders cannot realize, they panic too quickly seeing unstable price movements they often sell their bitcoin if they know the price fall, things like this that are usually the goals of big traders always take advantage of price volatility, so being a trader doesn't make a decision too quickly because the decisions taken can be inappropriate ...

If you still don't understand the market then don't trade, you should know how the market works. Cryptocurrency market is very different with stock market, it so volatile. I suggest you to only invest in legit ICO. Or you better to buy gold.

This is priority of your mindset. The priorities you set in your mind related sources of earning will determine the behavior you would be showing when you lost once. Control yourself.

There can be loss in the value at one time and can be rise another time. In addition, the market rise and fall also matters a lot and I think you should be optimistic rather than staying pessimistic.

If you can't understand how a market correction works, then you don't belong here. It may be better for you to concentrate on more mainstream forms of investment, such as equities, mutual funds, real estate, bullion and treasury bonds.

Don't think too much about it. you only should wait patiently for a while, and the price of Bitcoin will rise again soon.

the estimated decline in assets that are so large coupled with market conditions that have never experienced a strong turning point greatly affects the mental and psychological of the user. I also experienced considerable stress this year. But I don't want to just go away. I know that the situation can still improve and I am only relying on scalping trade now until the intended situation is gradually positive.

This might happen, this might not. We don't know what may happen in the future, all we know is that there is a that possibility of Bitcoin leaping to great price heights. For me, Bitcoin will still pump, we don't need to get upset to it's every movement since as an investor of a volatile crypto currency, this is always a possibility so we really need to be careful.

In us, such people are called hamster. You just went into the world of cryptoglyphs too late and until the end they did not understand it gave their money nowhere, and now they are offended to the whole world. This will be a good lesson for you and profit for whales.

Following factors had made the market stagnant :

1) Whenever there is new coin released based on a new feature, we have 50 more coming with same feature in next few days. This saturates the market as spending capacity is limited.

2) There are a lot of shit coins being manipulated which attracts small investors also when price increase fastly.

Yeah, that's why be smart and don't let your emotion. Instead, work smarter and harder for you to come up with them. Some are lossing too but still they keep on going. If you are into crypto, you should have a longer patience because that's one of the key to become succesful. Expect the unexpected when it comes to crypto.

Then go away we don’t need you here lol
Not one forces you to stay in this community,why staying when you are not happy being here

And so what are you doing here?Same as OP what are still staying in crypto when you have no bringt outlook in this market?Lol you both must leave because you have no future here.mind your own business stupid

Because they know crypto at first only to get money quickly, therefore they will always be disappointed if the expectations do not materialize. If they come to Crypto intending to invest with confidence about the future of Crypto, I am sure they will not be disappointed if the market is falling, because how they will remain patient to wait for the market to be pumped again.

I agree with that, and tobe honest its kinda frustrating, for those people who doesn't have muxh money and totally relying themselves to eat because of the profit that they were earning here and we do have different perspectives toward this issue sonce we dont have the same intensity of experience, but hoping this will get better soon.

I really think that reaction is not limited to newbies in the market, especially if we take into consideration what it is happening right now, the market is in a terrible shape and it is not giving any kind of signals that it is going to recover and that is why it's making a lot of people very nervous about what is happening, they are thinking that if they do not sell their coins right now it is possible they are going to lose all the money that they invested in cryptocurrencies.

And while it is my opinion that as long as you invested in a good coin you are going to recover your money, it is entirely reasonable that they are worried about what is happening when bitcoin has lost 25% of its value in just a week and 75% of its value in less than a year.

I think, there is nothing to be mad about in what is happening in the market today, I think there is if you are just a new investor of cryptocurrency. Last year lots of people got really happy about what happened in the market, and most of the people here made a lot of money, but those late investors or new investors who just got in the cryptoworld have been faced in a difficult situation, but I think everyone can use this to study how to make profit on a down trend.

Impatient people will not succeed in this technology as they will lost their composure while waiting if the market will not be good enough for them. We should understand that this is a volatile investment and the market is unpredictable. Do not invest to the amount that you can't afford to lose.

If you are too emotional that is the tendency you will be sick and tired of the crypto currency. I guess you really don’t know the investment you made because of that reaction. Crypto Market is too volatile and most investors knows that you should atleast invest only the money that you can afford to loose otherwise it is too stressful.

Obviously! People who had invested during late 2017 have never been backed their capital till now. Because of greediness and expectation, many people trapped in the price of bitcoin. At this time, buying bitcoin is good. The current price of bitcoin makes buyer glad because they knew that the price will come back again.

yes, I also feel tired when I see the market situation. and today the market price is falling. I'm sure there must be many people who are sick and angry at the current price decline. and I still think, what should I do now. do I have to give up or stay with the situation like this. remain patient, maybe this feeling is also experienced by many people today.

Sometimes I also feel tired especially when it take longer to wait like what happen now, sometimes i feeling to give up because there's nothing happen and its price is continuously dropping. The only reason why im still here and believing in crypto because of I have holding coin that have potential, so that im still waiting for the rise in the market.

As the saying goes, "It's you go hard or you go home",  No one said you'd have it easy here and no business is always fair, not even in the real world, You can't always win or have things go your way or however you might have wanted it to go, Every market has it's manipulative factors or parties. Understanding what are you're venturing into is paramount, and you can use it flaws to your advantage.

I do not even know what to add about this. I am not very keen on your conspiracy theory, but there is some truth in it. It is that the rich remain rich and the poor remain poor. And unfortunately, the crypto does not change this rule. Manipulation of markets always takes place with the help of large capitals. Unfortunately, ordinary investors cannot influence market prices. This is only for very rich people.

At first ,when you are planning to join the cryptocurrency, you must have to study and gather more informations about cryptocurrency ,  so that at the end you will have no regrets, and the thing you must considered in joining cryptos is hardwork and more patience in dealing with this cryptocurrency world.

Depression mostly catches people who have invested more than they can lose and those wich do not understand the situation.
I suppose it's not easy for you, but my recommendation is that we should buy more cryptocurrencies now if you have money. Start investing every week equals and small amount. Depression could catch you and that's not you anymore

Most of the people who are affected now are those who join crypto at peak, they think price will continue to go up and it will make them rich easily.
But they are wrong, now we have major correction and it has emotionally affected us, and even those who are here when the price of BTC is lower than the current are also affected but at least they have been in though times too so they are stronger.

Thinking of quitting because of this will only prove that you are not putting a money you can afford to lose, what happen to the work HODL?

It is better to stay away from icos, who is investing in icos at the moment? Even the most powerful coins in the market are going down once again and now ethereum is barely above 120 and you think that any ico has any chance to become successful when even one of the best coins in the market is suffering such a huge crash? That doesn't seem very likely to me.

You should atleast chose the right coins to invest for you not to feel sick and tired. The market now is really on the downside but make sure that the money you in your investment is the money you can afford to loose better be wise in choosing the right coin. Do not invest if you cannot tolerate the risk.

if you feel like that. maybe you are a new user. very reasonable if this currency fluctuates and always experiences turmoil that is difficult to predict. this is the nature of a stock. This currency is like stocks in general that do not have a price determination. so you have to understand this.

The money to use should be willingly afford to lose just in case, most of those who didn't plan well are losing huge investment, so in order to avoid being stress and regrets your stay make sure that you are willing to take the risk and you are willing to handle situations, the power of will and the management
of your funds needs to be develop while waiting for any opportunities.

we realy need to get more new blood into the market and its kinda hard now when its been falling for about one year.
when bitcoin /crypto in general will start to go up for some time people will start
to buy in again and new blood will also follow.
but as of right now i dont know how we can turn this around , feels like its never ending but it has to end sometime :/
i would guess it will end when bakkt launches maybe but who am i to tell .
 seems like alot smarter people than be been guessing wrong all year long.

Yes, currently the price of cryptocurrency makes us tired at lower prices, but now it's better to survive even though it's very tiring, because when the market rises again, our fatigue will pay off.

I understand you but dont be affected by your emotions because it can make you a wrong decisions that you will regret at the end.
We need to be more patient and calm.yes it maybe tiring to wait for the price increase but we need to wait so that all your effort will gain a good result.

Your not the only one that feel that way but if you see other they still choose to believe that everything will be alright again instead of thinking bad things about crypto. Because bearish market is not forever it will change and move up again so be patience instead.

If your sick and tired sold what you have now because it means you don't have patience and believe to what you are doing in crypto market. Many people in crypto that stay even the market is bearish or bullish. Patience is the key in any business there's a ups and downs not all are ups.

Yes, patience is the key because the market will not always increase, for those who are sick and disappointed with the crypto market today are those who only think to get money in an easy and fast way, even though we know that achieving success means we have to struggle with many obstacles head off.

In this bearish market trend of cryptocurrency we should keep cool and patience in order to overcome the stressful crypto market condition. We need to keep an eye always to the market situation before making any investment to avoid great losses when doing it.

looking for the right time to invest is a must, but if we are not good at analyzing, we can buy from now on gradually, so that the risk becomes smaller, and remain confident in your main goals

 Do not worry too much about the price of any altcoin. The market will soon recover. The market will have time traders sell all. But then they will return when the price is low and the market will automatically increase. The thing to do is choose the lowest price to buy now. ;D

Well we all know that most of people here before were because of quick profit chance from ICOs and even just from the price change. The hype was really booming before, and news about bitcoin and all other crypcurrencies price surge were everywhere.

He is sick and tired and he is here less than a month. Crytpomarket fluctuate for years, but last year top and this bottom now is what made people to be nervous a lot. They invested money in wrong time and now they blame the market for that. Its the same post like I have read years ago, people who bought on 1,200$ and price dropped to 100$ after that, they complained a lot back in the days, now at this price they are quiet, I presume that this people who cry now will be satisfied in few years if they manage to keep their coins in their possession.

Everyone says cryptocurrency is currently nonsense in times like this, that it is certain that crypto will improve and the best, especially Bitcoin, negative will certainly be on everyone's mind at the current market situation, it has a better positive thinkingcrypto for the future.

In most cases, people lose money only because of their stupidity or constantly taking risks, trusting the news and not having any knowledge, or succumbing to panic sell everything during the fall of the market. Many years sit on the forum and ask for advice, but do not aim to explore the market deeper and more detailed. As a result, having a superficial knowledge go to trade and accordingly lose money. In addition, the fall in prices is absolutely expected. Read the history of bitcoin and see how it fell in price and not once. But this did not mean its collapse. Stop being so surprised by the price drop. In the stock market, prices are also falling, but this does not mean that large international companies will close because of this.

That is true to some ,cryptoholders that are tired and sick of this kind of investments , there are many reasons why they came to this point ,because in cryptocurrency you are really got to work hard for your investments and always be patient , because crypto investments is one of the risky digital investnents ,so you must be careful for every move you made , but working with crypto is still have a good motivation for all.

It is the roller coaster ride which we have being facing it and should not be really worrying about the fall unless some major new as comes form some countries like they have banned it etc which can be more harmful to the market. Present scenario is just a volatility and it will soon recover from it and will mark high too.

according to you should leave the crypto market if you can't stand the market conditions like this. the crypto market is like this going up and down without anyone controlling the crypto market very volatile. this year the market has decreased throughout the year. and most beginners panicked. actually there is no need to panic because bitcoin has experienced something like this a few years ago. in 2014 the value dropped to $ 300. but it is proven that bitcoin and the crypto market can pump again in 2017.

Now I am even tired of the entire cryptocurrency. There are countless scammers here. They are really damn groups. Please ask God to make scammers unable to enter heaven. The scammers persecuted the growth of the cryptocurrency market, and I lost confidence in the future of cryptocurrency.

indeed when there are a lot of scamer. but we must take the positive side of it. we must be smarter to choose and still to learn to be patient, so that we will become better human beings than at present

I guess, we just have to accept the reality that there is no sure in the world of crypto space. We need to understand that everything here are difficult and not easy to be earned. This is just like playing a gambling game where we can only win once and loss twice.

I also saw a lot of manipulation, where every positive news that was made was always beaten by Bitcoin dumps which caused prices to continue to fall and now prices have reached $ 3200. if this continues, the small number of coin holders will opt out and leave crypto. I hope that the big players also need to think about this, not only the benefits they want, if the small players leave then will the remaining whales fight each other, and will this be interesting for you?

Your not really investing if you simply discourage by the market crash. Sometimes prices don’t correlate with positive and negative news its the law of supply and demand that really matters, expectations and reality don’t simply happen in this space. Some might see this as an opportunity but some declare losses, thats why we need to set aside emotions when it comes to investment, strategy and patience is the key.

Many people is panic when they saw that the market price dropping down which is normal. If you are here for a long time you will understand the cycle of cryptocurrency and its volatility. As  bitcoin users sell if the current market price is enough for you and buy if you think that it could brings you more profit. It all depends on you how you will handle the cryptocurrency.

right, everyone might be different about the point of view to take a step. now the market is just sluggish, and many are afraid to invest, but some people actually use this to take advantage later. therefore enjoy market movements so that we can take advantage of both prices up or down

To "get angry" with the market is completely nonsensical: the market must be studied, analyzed, and - if you are capable - used to make a profit.
For a good trader it is indifferent that the market rises or falls as long as it moves.
For others, only hope remains. And anger.

Rant all you want, it does not help the fact that the market is down right now. If you lack on patience then it is better for you to quit crypto. It's not that your ranting will help resolve the market but it will worsen the issues.

Maybe just few people still beginner about crypto and bitcoin are tired, because they do not know detail how bitcoin and altcoin could be lower and higher price, many investor keep stay cool with how ever bitcoin and altcoin price.

leave then this crypto world. I am sick as well of people whimpering on the daily basis. Rule number one 1. you need to develop thick skin and invest only amount that you can afford to loose. Crypto is totally up and down, it's just a battle versus time (which is not easy but those persistent and patient enough will profit at some point). By the way Happy new year fellas

You can sell to cut losses if you are fed up with a declining market. The market can definitely restore its condition, and if conditions improve in the future you can return.

You see the tree and you are missing the forest. Over this 10 year period, the market has grown so much and made huge steps. More and more developers are getting involved in the blockchain industry, they try to bring new ideas and implement them in real applications. You have just seen the recent downturn and you lost your faith in the market. If you don't like you can sell your coins and leave. No one pushes you to stay.

The bearish market is giving a lot of people tough time to get acquainted with the resources and stuffs they have. It is so sad that the amount worth dollars I had are now worthless.

At this moment in time we need to be more stronger to face all this challenges that the market brings us. Don't get sick and tired. Still remain focus and ready on what will happen in this year. There still a high possibility that cryptocurrencies can still regain their value.

Such thinking is typical for people who invested in cryptocurrencies at the end of 2017 and during bear market in 2018. Disappointment is completely normal for anyone who loses money on investment. Unfortunately, this is a consequence of the fact that most of these people did not know what cryptocurrency is when investing in it.

- Agree, tiredness and boredom will not help us to have good ideas in this situation, it just pushes us into a darker and desperate world, what we should do is as you say, be positive and face this situation, accept that we have lost and now we need to find the best ways to reduce damage to low levels. If we have enough trading experience, we should proceed to buy low and sell high to compensate for losses, otherwise, we should still maintain a good and calm state, forget this market for a while and come back when the light of hope comes

Newbies usually have in mind that once they invest money that profit starts coming quickly, but this is not like that, there is no quick money coming from this.

Any business that claims to give quick money is a scam. A genuine business/investment doesn’t work like that, you invest and you have patience for as long as you can. And you should also know that there are risks, you can invest and the price still goes down and you lose.

Youtubers are either paid to shill from bounties or they are simply shilling what they have just purchased themselves. They are useful for listening about the latest updates about something you are interested in but the market won't move because of it

Lol, don’t take these YouTubers serious, they can say a lot of shit. It would be best for you to carry out your own research. Sometimes, people usually overhype things like this, they keep on saying things that are not even true. I already knew that there wouldn’t be any bull last year, but trust me, this 2019 is going to be different from the previous year. There is definitely going to be a Bull run this year.

Fully agreed, they can be bias because they are paid.
Make your own prediction based on your research, that's the most important thing to do if you want to have the success here in crypto.
They ride on the situation, just believe on the opposite of that they said.

I understand you. Let us put this in a simple idea  "Take time to rest and get back again if you find cryptocurrency in a good place in your life." Sometimes things happened unexpectedly without your consents. But somehow, it is a challenge to say never say never.

You newbie/novice are too easy to get disappoint or frustrate in terms of when the market are always in dump stage. You always never learn ever since when you came here in this industry of crypto or bitcoin. As a traders in this field of industry we should be patience and have a wide understanding about the situation of the market.

Ignore the FUD buy Bitcoin.

Only in case of urgent money people should be selling it or if some one is making profits then only should sell . I think market is going to swing upwards only from here in some time. It is patience which will lead to wealth creation from here.  Keep buying and holding it for the right time.

You should be patient with your investment in cryptocurrency. Crypto is long term investment and i think we can not expect quick profits. The price will growing as long the project keep running. Patient will bring us to big profits if we hold a good coin

Why not the opposite happens? I remember when I first came to crypto, I wasn't concerned about Bitcoin price and how the market is going. Even when I suffered losses I still continue to have faith in the comeback. It is how you see it. Personally, I see it as a long-term investment, I accumulate more coins and wait for it to grow.

You don't really need to rest.

Being an investor of a decentralized cryptocurrency, you will know that it is hard it is not always giving you profit, there are a lot of times that it will be having a dump and that is fine since earning money is not that easy and I understand that. If you really want to earn, you don't need to rest but you need to be patient as time passes, just do things you need to do maybe focus on your job or your business and just check your investment if the price is having a good pump when you can get your profit.

The "bullshit"  will soon be over ensure you take advantage  of the  long  bearish market, 2019 is here  the bull run will commence soon ensure you are strategic by investing  in project that is sure to be productive and  valuable.

Yes, crypto market will be high in coming future and it will unpredictable high in 2019, so people should do just hard work in crypto projects because it will very profitable in this year and also invest in this currency because it is not harmful currency rather it has a lot of opportunities to earn money and that's why its investment has a lot of profit in very short time.

Although crypto prices have been manipulated in a very unethical manner, we are required to remain patient, optimistic and positive thinking. Patience here doesn't mean silence, surrender to the situation, but do what you can still do, for example by buying as much as you can buy, not panic selling, or do some other positive actions.

We have to understand those crypto manipulators are actual just ordinary people, meaning they still have limitations and they will feel bored with the conditions they have made, well that's when they will pump the cryptocurrency price, far from what we previously predicted.

This shits makes my life more meaningful and because of bitcoin I was able to earn some extra money. If you don’t believe on this market anymore then choose to leave than to lose more. Patience is important, because this year we will see a more high market, a more expensice bitcoin and a lot of new investors are in this market.

I am agree, if we are panic with market condition, we will losing our money and miss the chance to make profits. Crypto still at early ages and still developing, i think we should wait market more mature. Cryptomarket still unregulated in many country and if SEC approve bitcoin ETF, i am believe bitcoin will leads crypto price rising

the market can still be manipulated and this is very ridiculous, many people take advantage of investor panic in trade, and some are optimistic that they will continue to voice short-term analytical speculation, but the quality is actually not too sharp. I choose to be calm, if it is still concentrated in the short term, then I must be more active in analyzing.

Yes good time never come too fast for good days you will have to wait and keep patience. If you are not happy at the moment then just keep holding and don’t look at the price market. It will make you get disheartened. Just wait now and check the price at the middle id 2019 I am sure you will find allot of positive rays for hope.

then i guess they also started bitcoin since last year which prices was totally high by that time and they keep blaming the price which they don't know how much worst before than what is right now.

at least I got 2 shitcoin in 2018. after working as a bounty for a long time, they finally disappeared and there was no news. sick, tired, all together but this is the crypto market with all the situations where we really have to survive for huge profit.

we shouldn't say that. we must understand any market conditions. are we already know the risk of crypto investment. that prices can fly anywhere. and we must understand that prices do not recover within 1 year. and we have experienced that before. be patient fluctuations will definitely bring prices back up

It seems that he is really pissed off :D. Well, we can't blame him because he maybe lose a lot of money last year (even me will have a possibility to uncontrol my rage).
But based in my experience this 2019, I can say that it was fine. I don't earn lots of profits but also don't lose a lot too — just lying betwren the middle. Actually, I'm very thankful to that "bullshit" somehow because I had the opportunity to buy more in a lower price. Now, I continue hodling and waiting if 2019 will be a good year for all of us.

Take a break and calm yourself, the crypto market is unstable and can give you a loss if you are too careless to make a choice. You must be more patient because to get the benefits you want.

Cryptocurrencies need enthusiasts, and not the people, who are sick and tired of everything, who are depressed and do not want to do anything to rise. Leave the market - this is the best decision.

Waiting is good option and selling now is another name to suffer lose at panic. Don’t lose your hope mate just stick with the market and purchase more. Taking stress is useless so use your mind and hold if you are not in need of money because as you said panic selling can only make us lose our money.

Lol yeah we should be flexible users I think, know when to in and out, buy or sell. so that we can follow the market,
take advantage of the best possible conditions. not just swear and condemn the situation

That’s why a lot of people wouldn’t stick around holding new coins. Most people would just sell those coins quickly and that’s what I do most n of the times, just quickly exchange it for another good coin instead of Hodling it till it becomes shit. I haven’t got a shit coin before, starting from the day one I started this cryptocurrency.

News isn’t what moves the market. There can be positive and negative news everyday but it doesn’t determine where the goes next. All you got to do is follow the predictions and know what is likely to happen in future of cryptocurrencies. Price doesn’t just go up because the news says so. It doesn’t work like that.

People who got easily sick in crypto is really the person who does not have enoughf patience and they can easily got panic or get bored on the price and that is why they are prone to a great loss. I believ ethat crypto really needs a great patience because crypto is really unstable if we are in a huge dip today it doesn't mean that we are still in a huge dip tommorow.

 Charts say Bitcoin will hit nearly $5K around the end of January then we’ll go down to find our true bottom. Don’t know yet if $3.1K will hold. Once our double bottom reached you can except market to go sideways during months.

I can’t even begin to imagine how many times I have though to myself this very exact same thing!
Fact of the matter remains the same from Day 1 that cryptocurrency is not intended to be an overnight success.  
Sure- there are people who made a lot of profit by being early adopters and miners but if you find yourself becoming this frustrated, then it might just honestly be a good time to either take a break or remove yourself from this environment entirely.  We hear very disturbing stories at times about poor decisions people have made in the past.  

If you are feeling at all these types of ways, stay away from cryptocurrency for a while.  
If for any reason- for your own good health.  

Too much worry would surely affect our health, that's why we don't use our emotion here but we should be clever all the time to stay smart.
When this type of market is being manipulated, you should prepare your emotion throughout your journey or accept that it's manipulated so it will not affect you.

it is how a trade work ,if the seller will not manipulate price according to its greed then how profit will happen. There are two major player in the crypto trader,one is the big holder or whales which want to increase quantity or increase the coin price buy manipulation using bot or buy/sell walls,second player is the big company who want to extract high profit from their current holding or investing ,they generally do it through fud and fomo bcz they have good marketing connection.and if you want to gain a profit from your investment then you have to find balanced scenario to get profit.

I agree. It applies to stocks and forex also.  Profiting again in crypto is not every year and it can happen again in the next 4-5 years. This also reminds of a saying that trading is the transfering of money from impatient to the patient.

the condition of the global economy is down and it also affects the market stock which is the world's big trade, so crypto which is a product of trade and investment is of course also affected by this situation where the purchasing power of crypto people also decreases and many other factors must be considered in price reduction . crypto still has potential and long-term investment is the best thing for the future

Its difficult for bitcoin to surpass $4,000 and its staying there I guess for a month so its either we see no movement for this month. But for altcoins, there are more to come and news about it as bitcoin dominance decreases.

And for that true bottom, we can't really be sure if we hit it or it will keep on looking for it soonest.

Everyone was disappointed with the market last year which I strongly believe is the reason for your frustration. I think you should still give it a try in this current year.

I understand your frustration but we should also to consider that most of the crypro users and the people are afraid to join crypto currency at the moment because of bearish market in which still in effect. If someone or something will be done to trigger the bullish run then probably mostly will be at ease specially you.

You won't have to rant here. Instead of whining, take the silver lining. By having all these weak hands selling their coins at a huge loss, they will be cleansed out from the community. What remains are true believers and HODLers. Well, let them come back if they want but they will have to buy the same coin that they dumped at a much expensive price. In that way, they may have lost but gained some lessons. They will mature through that and they will become one of us HODLers. Make no mistake, a lot of us began having weak hands.

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it is a risk from investors. we should know what are the risks before investing in cryptocurrency. well, I know, so much has come out of this because there are many projects that are scam, or too long waiting for the market to be good. but, that is the risk, because there are many who come out.

For those people who keep losing, it is better if you will just stop for a moment. There are many people who became greedy to regain their losses and it is the reason why they are failed to do it. Their decision is not good and they do not have good managing emotions.

Cryptocurrency is not bullshit, it is one of the technologies of the future, and it will change the world to become better. Maybe you are an investor and a loss in investing in Crypto, and you become desperate. It's funny that the losers always say that Cryptocurrency is ridiculous and still works on this forum.

sometimes we feel the wobbles and self-reliance. but sometimes i never say anything about cryptocurrency. even though last year 2018 is experiencing very low prices bitcoin sometimes feel like I've given up in the long term crypto down. but after all I'm still fighting and continuing to accumulate a lot of coin, I wonder if someday the crypto has been low will rise again and in those days I'm waiting until 2019 is coming so here I still hope to rise again a market price. I fell that the cryptocurrency was going to be right, gradually increasing the market rate so it was better I was waiting because at last there was a waiting fortune for everyone.

I guess you felt the same as OP but you kept hodling your assets, right? Didn't you get rewarded by all this time that you waited for your investment to pay off? It is all about keeping your patience and your stress levels low.

Yes, it is a good attitude to adapt on the environment taking advantage on the current trend of market price volatility. I guess many investors had made some losses due to constant trading with no good market price increase. However, it is still not the reason for one to lose hope and give up easily with the current market price fall down trend. Just for now holding and increasing crypto might be ideal instead of trading crypto to fiat or vice versa to earn. It is really hard to predict crypto market price movement for now.

 Don’t feel down, almost every alt is 90% down from ATH, we are all in same boat, I never bought bitdegree but still my Portfolio value is more or less same like you,
( I own icx, vet, Nebl, zil)

When you have tired and sick with how bitcoin price and condition, you can keep hold and close everything have connection with crypto, you can start your journey by joining real business and invest your money there.

Well that is why we are always advice to invest only what we can afford to lose at the end cause the cryptocurrency market is always volatile and at such no body can predict when the price will take any direction so long as it answer to the law of demands and supply the market will always remain unpredictable.

first of all . news is not the one that dictates the price because what causes the price to fluctuates is the people who buy and sells   . secondly  , not all news are legit but most of them that we see on the web are hoax  . they create fake news because they think that this will cause a panic or to gain attaction/fomo  .  third , if you are sick and tired of the crypto bs then why cant you just quit ? that solves your problem  .  peace !

While news may not currently seem to have any effect on price (for most coins) still that's the gateway to get from exclusive speculation market to a more stable crypto economics.

I think the op is more upset about the imbalance of the fundamentals. We tout blockchain tech, crypto tech, and while finally at the reins of an emerging economy, prices don't seem to correlate development with adoption.

Fact, until more favorable regulatory frameworks are in place, we should see more of these rollercoaster price movements. Meanwhile, in the long run I think it's volatility that makes crypto any unique.

what market the price to fluctuate in any market setting is news and how people react to it.  I think the root cause of market reaction is news and if you are not following the prevailing events you maybe luck out of the happenings in the market.

Have patience man, don't let the crypto market stress you out. Some investors in bitcoin had to wait for over three years before they saw a significant rise in the value of bitcoin. If you don't have such patience then cash out your funds before further decline of the market because the market is too volatile and it can reduce in marketcap again. Just look at what BTC did today lol.

Lol, people buy and sell because they see market conditions first, how things are in the market, are there positive news such as adoption from large institutions and so on. of course news has an important role in the market. being an investor must be patient, the market does not always meet your expectations

The OP made this post only a few months after joining this forum, and to this date he has made a grand total of 5 posts. It looks like he is not very interested in the concept of cryptocurrency, and his interest is only in profit making.

I first joined this forum in 2017 and I witnessed the crazy bull run that occurred during that year. And I was there in 2018 when the correction happened. I am still confident about the coins in my wallet, because I know that the basics are strong.

Those who are impatient or not serious may better quit the crypto sector. It will be beneficial for both the sides.

I'm tired of all the shills and people saying anything that they don't hold is a scam.  Different coin communities have become like a cult and you can't dare say anything negative about their chosen coin.  Also really tired of all the exchange hacks and people need to stop leaving coins on exchanges.

Mate, if the situation on the crypto market is so annoying to you why would you not move on gold and silver?  ::) they are pretty stable and won't disturb you so much.
Well, I am also annoyed from those videos on YouTube from 'crypto experts' who say you about 'perspective' coins and so on. You have to understand that all of those youtubers are making money that way. The thing each of us should to learn is to filter the information, no matter what kind, from news, from videos, from the internet.

OP is bored last time that the market reacts not according to what he has seeing. Looking at the news last year, there are many positive news but it didn't helped the market to get to his expectation. Everyone is free to have his own thought on what he sees to the market and if he's tired with all of this, no one forces you to stay or get out of this market. This is why crypto is all about freedom, you will be disappointed in some instances but if you believe in it, you should stay.

When taking a long time to get improved is not been happened till now so the Bull market is not been available for cryptocurrency to develop the beer is market still continuous it is like we don't have the chances are going to get that investment back but why open is I just leave it for sometimes and doing another job so it is a good idea now.

Definitely it will be a tired situation to make a hold again for long time there is no changes happening in this market from a long period of time so how long we can take a chance to make a hold it will be little bit difficult again but it is always ended with good result.

One of a hundred has this patience. It is really very difficult not to be nervous when you see that your altcoins are going down. Many people cannot bear it and simply leave the market selling their alts.

I think he's real trouble is not a market situation and market sentiment but what is going on with news and discussion about some exact cryptocurrencies.

At that time the market drop because this happen, and more and more people sell it and cashout, but if you buy on bull run you should wait for a new bull run because you can have a high chance to make a good profit. Time and patience is need on crypto.

@OP The exit door is always opened to crypto investors like you. those who have no time to wait and see the project they invested in get real vaue as a result of their products which is being used. If you don't have patience then i would entreat you not to invest into cryptocurrencies because you would need lots of it.

indeed, it has become a natural thing for a lot of traders to panic when they see the condition of the price of coins at the exchange that starts to fall very cheaply, they will secure the assets they have in order to be safer.

Do not be so strict. The guy simply does not know what to do. I guess many people are at a loss as well. Hopefully, the market situation will be changed soon, and I think, the positive changes can be seen already.