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Lol. It has been said that the Creepy Porn Lawyer might actually be a right wing operative as well. These types of claims are not that uncommon for those who are able to attract a lot of attention. I don't think it is very common for political parties to engage in that kind of operations, in part because of the risk that it backfires and the extreme ideas catch on (such as socialism).

Great news that he was confirmed.
Sadly, the reputation of US justice stands diminished today as the Democrats actively sought to deny a cornerstone of law: presumption of innocence.
By undermining this human right, the left has done real damage to the cultural integrity of the western world and beyond.

lol presumption of innocence only applies to criminal charges.  Not one person said he should have been charged with sexual assault (remember the "lock her up" chants, btw?).  I don't know if you don't understand what presumption of innocence means or were being intentionally dishonest.

Funny how the rules only seem to apply when the left want them to apply. When they don't their warped postmodernism retarded minds can justify pretty much anything, even if it breaks rules they agree with.

You people are morons and a threat to society itself. To a postmodernist, all you have to do is question everything until everything makes no sense then you make your own rules! Of course then you break those rules the first time it becomes inconvenient, but those are the wonders of Marxism.

"lol" indeed. It was a show trial. Democrat senators are calling Kavanaugh "dangerous". Others are calling for Collins to be "hounded forever".
Mobs are intimidating and harassing anyone right wing. It's not a good look. China are jumping on it to show how US justice has become corrupt.
I'm not American, and it looks awful from over here.
"Lol." you say.

Post 12 of 324.

The end of the rational discussion.

Didn't take Soros long to change the tables.

American politics - where reality is conflated with fiction. Where the political parties are paid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_States) by the same corporations but hate each other with vengeance.

https://img.memecdn.com/american-politics_o_1856145.jpg

Unfortunately when there is trail by media or like with Senate questions - the truth is less important to the people asking the questions than the desired outcome - the truth becomes incredibly blurred.

- What is happening to the accuser is exactly why the victim probably didn't come forward in the first place.
A criminal investigation is unlikely to lead to a conviction due to the lack of corroborating forensic evidence.

- What happened to the accused where the accusation was made during a crucial political appointment is exactly why people have doubt.
Both sides of the political spectrum have been caught making smears before.

With lawyers and PR the perception has become more important than the truth.

Hypocrisy check:
Would the people posting here be making the same argument if Kavanaugh was a liberal appointment by the Democrats ?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/

Nobody would suggest that.

The two parties have largely differing modus operandi.

Although the Republicans might "smear someone" by noting they were a past member of the Communist party.

The reason they would not try to smear based on sexual abuse allegations is because all that only works in one direction. If you're a democrat you don't even get media attention, it gets buried.

Clinton *cough cough*

The media continues to exonerate Clinton for his sexual assault and rape allegations, while continuing to ignore corroborating witnesses and the physical evidence.  None of which exist in teh allegations against Kavanaugh (https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/).

Where were these baying hounds screaming "Believe Her" when Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones and the others (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations) were telling their stories of Bill's misconduct?  What about Karen Monahan (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story) who told her doctor about the abuse, and who's friends saw her with visible marks from abuse at the hands of Keith Ellison?  Why don't they believe her?

Why did the stories about Kavanaugh (https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/christine-blasey-ford-politics-democrat/) have such a suspicious timing to them?

No, the republicans didn't want Merrick Garland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland#Scalia_vacancy_and_2016_nomination) on the court, so they just held out and waited.  They didn't go around calling all the women he went to high school with to find one willing to perpetrate a political hitjob.  Only democrats are that desperate for power. 

Republicans could "hold out" on Garland because they had the majority. Similarly, they were desperate to push Kavanaugh through quickly because they fear losing the majority and being "garlanded" by Democrats.

The irony is that their own antics may have blown all chances they had to take the senate.  The Creepy Porn Lawyer just had to go full retard and light the fuse.  Can we all agree to not give that schmuck any more attention?

no way!

I just love having a Creepy Porn Lawyer (note the capitalization) on the "other side!" Particularly one that abuses and mistreats women for political purposes.

Note he's a "Privileged old white man" but they don't talk about that.

You know how they got the majority? Oh that's right people voted them in to represent them.

When it is Republicans it is always "treason" and when it is Democrats they are just "exercising their rights".

And the Democrats didn't care because Hillary was a sure bet winner.

Wait, that didn't happen?

I love it how goog that once was a paragon of honest internet search now can offer articles titled "Brett Kavanagh is rapist" (depending on who you are, obviously, so not to get caught immediately) ON TOP of their search results...
How simultaneously goog, fb and twitter are caught misbehaving with customers' data...

Funny how fast the pure of heart become the heart of darkness, isn't it?

Google may have had (semi)honest search results at one time, but it was a government/corporate intelligence hybrid project from day one. Look at who In-Q-tel is. They, like several other organizations like them were simply designed as a way around the constitutional protections people in the USA have by law. Oh look it is a private company so it is ok! Uh... no.

Meanwhile they hoover up every detail of all of our lives, and sell the database to the highest bidder. You know what we should add on top of this dumpster full of oily rags? A culture of guilty until proven innocent mob justice like this whole contrived assault on Kavanaugh. Before you light up that match, remember you are the oily rag in this scenario.

This made me LOL so hard; out here a political expert had predicted that Hillary will poll atleast 15% more than Trump.


On watching most of the debates, although I would have liked Bernie to be the Prez, but I guess the election boiled down to two liars and the one who could do so more convincingly won.

I blame Hillary for that one... she didn't even try

Trump said all these things that were obvious lies, but at least he said them... not everyone knows a lie when they see it, and he convinced enough dopes that he would be a champion of LGBT rights, etc... obvious lies

Hillary on the other hand, didn't even try... she didn't even pretend that she would be on the side of the working class... her only message was "vote for me, I have a vagina"

I think she tried to the best of her abilities, and to most, that would indeed appear like she wasn't even trying.

But the American people voted in the person that lied the least. Look at his follow through on campaign promises.

Whatever facts you were presented with you'll always see Trump as the evil villain...

Find a mirror, look deeply into your own eyes, and repeat 3 times...

Exactly this, if you were to actually go through all of the Trump campaigns promises you'd see that they've fulfilled a good deal of them with a RAZOR THIN majority in the Senate. He's done a great deal, but the people that hate him are just going to continue to hate him -- there's nothing that can be done to fix some peoples hate.

That's just how it goes.

Except legalization of marijuana at a federal level. IMO if Trump enacted this policy (I am not holding my breath) he would in my opinion have an instant lock on 4 more years short of starting a nuclear war. The left really wants it, the right either wants it or doesn't give that much of a crap about it either way. The ones that do are quickly becoming history. He would take a hit from some powerful lobby groups in the prison and law enforcement industries, but this is a policy which has reached its time. All this division over Kavanaugh would melt in a haze of smoke and tax dollars.

If he were to take this opportunity he could end 100 years of pain and destruction related to the prohibition of marijuana and truly make a great mark on American history.

I do think that this MAY tank his approval rating among the people that have loved him for so long, the conservatives in the Republican party. Though I do guess that the Federal government could just not have laws on it, and let the states set the laws without the federal government having any sort of ruling on it.

Rather then the federal government legalizing it, and forcing states to legalize it as well -- if you understand what I mean on this. As I do think that this would keep the states rights conservatives happy, and open Trump up to a massive amount of love among moderates and liberals.

Modern conservatives are by no means united in keeping weed illegal; I have always thought the largely Democratic lawyers and court systems were the major factor that kept it illegal. It's a huge money machine for those jerks.

I would also like to see Trump move in the direction of legalization. At this point there is sufficient experimentation on the subject by various states to determine a reasonable federal policy. Scientifically it has no business on the narcotics list.

That's going to break wide open is my prediction, it can't continue. He is simply doing too many good things to be overlooked.

While I do without a doubt agree with you on policy, I do think that he can keep his own people happy (the old style conservatives, not the modern ones) by simply having the federal gov not have a stance on marijuana and leaving it up to the states.

The biggest issue with Marijuana policy is the issue of the government having differing stances. As marijuana shops (or any companies they do business with these places) can't use banks and are subject to RICO civil suites due to breaking federal code. If this federal code wasn't there, this would be a huge plus.

Leave it up to the states, and take a huge win. That's my view at least.

Taking cannabis products off the federal "Narcotics schedule" effectively does this.

I believe that could be done by the agency, or by an executive order. It does not require legislation. That's very difficult because of the huge amounts of money going into the legal system from prosecuting these minor offenses.

By now there is likely an established pro-marihuana lobbying effort in the District of Criminals, which will help.

Mod's Note: At the request of a user I have split the OT posts from the original thread so the OT debate can continue unmoderated!

Might as well make this the "shoot the shit" about Amercian political tribalism, support trump, impeach trump etc etc thread!  I will just let the thread havea go in any old direction people feel like talking about so nothing would really be off topic as long as it's in relation somehow to american politics!

BTW legalize fucking weed already man, it being a federal sched 1 narcotic is just retarded LOL, its 2018 you know!

Also you americans are kind of ignorant when it comes to this shit.  If I buy and smoke week legally in my home country then I am technically never allowed to travel to the US because I have broken one of your federal laws, not in your country but in my country...

If I am asked at the airport if I have ever smoked weed and I answer truthfully yes, I am black listed and not allowed to enter the US again.  If I lie to the federal agent and say no, I have now committed a federal crime in the USA and broken your laws.

I think we need a wall on the 49th parallel and we should make the turtles pay for it!  Those god damn Canadians coming across the border HAS to be stopped at all costs!

Okay, where's my potato gun....

Trump term 1, wall on the south.

Trump term 2, wall on the north.

I'm feeling safer already.

Wait...there's weed on the OTHER SIDE of both those walls...

GOP falls for fake news consistently.

I wish people would wake up and see the tyranny that currently exist.

Instead, the chat online detailing the evidence of this tyranny is drown out by trolls spreading misinformation.

This is the state of politics today.

Fake news?

You going to seriously argue Canada's NOT THE ENEMY?

Those socialist pigs must die every last stinking one of them  ;) I hear they are hard to kill though with that awesome healthcare!

Back in the day this seemed like a far fetched comedy, today, not so far fetched LOL if you Allan Alda Trump what I mean!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jf8Bt4gD9Y

LOL

"How did you know that was a nuclear facility?"
"Well they fooled us on that one it was actually a hospital, but it was a hell of a strike"

I suspect that changing the laws/reducing the red tape around deporting illegals will make the wall redundant. A southern wall may still be built, however the law will no longer give incentives to cross the border illegally.

Now look — we KNOW it was the top secret centrifuge facility. If just a couple argued this was ridiculous, that'd be the natural outliers. But when a concerted effort is made to get whole bunches of people to argue, you know it's very, very suspicious. BINGO! You know you were right.

And there's a lot more of those fake hospitals up in that frozen wasteland.

Yes it is a BIT like "Allah Akbar!" but very different. "Alan Alda!!!"

By the way...keep this quiet...but we need to check those Canadian Vet Clinics...

I would like to thank the Republican party personally!  The USA economy as always is dragging the Canadian economy right along with it and we are enjoying the absolute shit out of it!

So thank you to the middle and lower class for paying for the tax cuts to the rich that have your economy booming and your deficit ballooning.

Trump loves to talk about how Americans get a raw deal paying for everything well guess what you guys are all paying right now for my booming economy, thank you very very very much.

I think I might be becoming a republican as it is proving to be lucrative for me and I don't have to rack up the deficit in my country to enjoy the benefits.

Trump: make america pay to make other countries economies boom!

When the Ford case came out, the Democrats declared Kavanaugh guilty even before they heard the whole testimony and it's something that's going to hurt them in the long run in my opinion.  They were ready to destroy him just because Trump nominated him.

You got a point there. Now lets lock her up.

:)





Making Canada Great Again?

Make Canada Greater with American tax payers dollars?  FUCK YA I love that, the more I think about it.


https://i.imgur.com/5wzMLg1.jpg

Just another example of why democratic socialist governments are so much more progressive than the USA.

Happy Oct 17th my fellow Canadian smokers!

Well, we could light up some buds, and still go for locking her up ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOwSaSl_PGk&index=4&list=RDIS1b5Y9NIXA

PS: If you are Canadian, you know the Great Lakes and the original song.

But now this kind of rock is from my land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjdPx8cJ27Y

I am very familiar with Gordon Lightfoot's original version and the story, although any Canadian from my generation knows about the Edmund Fitzgerald because of The Hip!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp9kZmcdBjc

By far the most influential Canadian rock band of my generation and Gord was a true poet.

Anyone having time look up their songs and listen to the lyrics a lot of them tell a really cool untold story like wheat kings! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xIaBcfL6vU  Its the only reason anyone in my generation even knows about a 16 year old who served 23 years in jail for a murder he did not commit.

I don't trust the cops or the judicial system it makes far to many mistakes and I think its even worse in the US than it is in Canada and with the widening of the political gap in the average american it only stands to get worse IMO.

Sure, but when we're headed for legal weed is gonna be...

MAGA WEED!

CARAVAN incoming, Fuck you guys should have built the wall already.

I guess it doesn't matter Trump is gonna send the Military and close the southern border if Mexico doesn't stop them!

I think Trump should launch a pre-preemptive air strike on the mob of criminals, the air force needs some real life practice!

I do have to say this is gonna make an amazing twitter talking point for Trump, should rile up his racist base even more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish the Canadian Government would send some planes to Mexico and pick up the refugees and bring them here!

Plenty of war refugees in the middle east. Plenty of refugees from south america too

Seems like the FBI isn't getting a new building after all???

I wonder why Trump ordered the GSA to stop the development deal that would have the FBI move from a dilapidated building into a desperately needed modern, bigger and most importantly not falling apart lol new building.  

It appears the government had a deal with a developer to build them a new FBI facility in the suburbs.  In exchange for the development of the new property the developer would receive the lease rights to the property the current building sits on.  The developer was planning on building a luxury hotel on the site!!!

For some odd reason Trump ordered the GSA to kill the deal which will flush millions of government dollars already spent on the project down the drain.  As a result of not using the equity in the existing property and the building literally falling apart it is estimated that it will cost the US tax payers about $100 million more to renovate the existing building than it would to go get a new building with the deal.

Hey Squatz can you tell me why having a luxury hotel on the location of the current FBI building might have a personal negative economic impact on the most famous self admitted pussy grabber in America?

Enjoy your trillion dollar deficit home boy, I know Canada is!!

Here trilly trilly trilly.

Trump is draining the swap, right into his pockets!

Main reason of conflict around the world is USA , they ignite conspiracy among Middle East empires.

If you try long enough to unroll the pretzel you will end up going insane LOL.  Trying to understand an egotistical megalomaniac is like trying to understand flat earth logic!  Baffle em with Bullshit and play the victim card that is Trump.

What actually perplexes me is that the rest of the free world is laughing at how Americans who used to be the shinning light on the hill could elect a person so transparent, so absolutely fucking stupid.  The only foreign powers that LOVE trump are dictators haha and yet the right is not only ignoring it but think its the opposite somehow.  The rest of the world laughs at how half the US citizens can deny the reality that the GRU fucked with your precious elections and HELPED DECIDE WHO YOUR LEADER WOULD BE.

It simply astounds me to not see the Americans, all of them demanding to know the motherfucking truth about their pussy grabber LOL and his connection to the fucking GRU and many other ethical problems.  A foreign HOSTILE government MAY have tainted the single most precious American ideal and half of the country says, well he denies it so it's a witch hunt.  Guess what GOP the search for truth is NEVER a witch hunt.  Claiming witch hunt is another dictator 101 tactic.  The whole world is asking why half the country doesn't care about the truth...

I can't wait for the Mulluer report, the GOP is in for some serious ass kicking when it hits.  Another Saturday night massacre would be sweet, I wasn't alive for the first one!!!!!!!!!!

I also can't wait for the dems to take the House, the amount of entertaining reading material the investigations produce will be so fucking awesome. A big fatty and a coffee and I could read that shit for hours, till I fall asleep on my dog sled!


You tend to see a lot of the older folks going from Igloo to Igloo on their dog sled as a lot of us old Hippies prefer a more traditional mode of transportation.   ::)  8)

The worst bit is that the existing space is much smaller. This whole project was about getting more room.

I am sure that should there be a new president they are going to undo this work and maybe let the FBI move to a bigger building am sure Trump is doing this because of Election collusion issue.

Wait, so you fell for the Stupid Facade?

Next you'll be saying you believe Obama was black.

lol facade lololol thanks for the laugh.  He must be the best actor in the world he plays a moron perfectly!!!  To be fair I did forget that the Chinese love Trump because of his big big brain!


Honestly I don't give a fuck if Obama is black, white, yellow, green or purple.

One reason the Chinese love Trump is he showed serious respect for them, his grand daughter signing to their leaders in Chinese. That's a huge deal for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O57PwYwzTys

Wait I am so sorry I forgot .... Trump shi hen bèn ...

Lock Trump up.
Lock him up.
Lock him up.

Treason's a crime that normally carries a death penalty. However, it seems that might only be life in prison.

So, hopefully, we see a public execution, but honestly, it'll probably just be an old rich white jail spending the rest of his life behind bars with his family.

Dream...the impossible dream....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI

Dude the late great or not so great president Ronald Reagon has got you covered  when in doubt about any answer to any question simply say "I am sorry I don't recall". 

If pressed to answer yes or no   just answer with this question "did you ask me to answer yes or no how can I do that when I don't recall."  I am a very honest person and I simply don't recall everything I have done or said or read or seen.

I would also note, I was the one who made this request (perhaps not the only one) so we could continue the legalization topic without being off topic. I made that request on the first off topic content, which I believe I had posted, yet amazingly plenty  of ON TOPIC posts already in the thread found their way into it too. I am sure it was just a coincidence they are counter to your personal opinions ;)

LEGALIZE TRUMP 2020

Debt to GDP is everything! http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Canada is actually worse when you compare GDP ton debt, which should always be done.

I have to read up on the FBI story, didn't know about this!

LOL well lets look at debt per capita where Canada is marginally better, lets look at your deficit ballooning after the Trump tax cuts for the 1%.  Now more importantly lets look at what I get for my debt as opposed to what you get lol.  I mean according to your polls the biggest thing on voters minds is health care.  The word pre-existing conditions doesn't even make sense here LOLOLOL.  I get UHC for my debt, I get safe communities with very little gun violence.  I get a country that doesn't have to deal with the mass murder of children at their schools.  I get legal weed and I get NO TRUMP hehe!


Of course everything comes down to me trying to censor shit for my opinion, fuck off already every post is still here and anyone who thinks they had a post moved that was on topic go ahead and re-post...  

Look if you want a legalization only thread go ahead and fucking start one.

If there are posts that were on topic in this thread that should be in the original thread go ahead and re-post them in the original.

I went back to a recent point that I felt it started to go OT to split the topic, just because you wanted only the weed stuff split I decided to go further and also allow a wide range of discussions.

But that's not what should be compared, what you should be comparing is a debt to GDP as that's the best indicator of if the debt is actually sustainable.

And with the current economic growth, even with more deficit spending -- it seems as if it's sustainable.

I personally don't think it's possible to replicate the Canadian healthcare system in the US, as we live in a greatly different society. We have stark differences in poverty, employment, demographics, population, and so on and so forth.

Very little gun violence doesn't mean anything -- low crime rates do. Plus you're going to have to understand the vast differences from the US and Canada -- as the things I said before. I'm currently looking into this right now.

Legal weed is a fair one, I do think that the US fed government should step out of the way (and have no policy on weed) and allow the states to do as they please on weed.

EXCEPT that days after weed's legalized, they're already running out. In good socialist fashion, they now proceed to the modern equivalent of Soviet bread lines.

Weed lines.

And who is it that will come to the help?

The good old USA, with our illegal but capitalist weed.

LOL thats cute bro, if you think weed goes south to north you don't understand economics! The US market is almost 10X the size of the Canadian market.  We grow more weed here than we could ever smoke so guess where the extra goes!

Also I appreciate your worry about our supply but I just placed an order online and it says it will be here in 3-5 days!  Not to mention getting weed on the "black market" is just a text away for almost anyone!  We don't need your weed it's too hard to get it up here!


I personally don't think the US could adopt any type of UHC because of the legalized system of bribery you guys have and defend to the death!  Until you get out of that system you're right UHC can't work in the US. Whats amusing is that your government spends more public dollars per capita than Canada but Canada has UHC.  You could actually implement a system of UHC AND be more fiscally responsible by SAVING money...
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-spends-more-public-money-on-healthcare-than-sweden-or-canada-2017-4

Allowing corporations to buy candidates on both sides of the aisle (Clinton raised 3 fucking billion dollars) simply creates a disproportional balance of incentivization.  It incentivizes the politicians to keep their corporate donors happy!  Clearly this has created a situation where it places both parties in a permanent conflict of interest...

What did you expect to happen?  There is a HIGH demand for weed (get it?)

When you legalize weed, and 50% of the population wants some... you will run out because yesterday it was illegal to grow it, so the supply is very limited

Do you think you can grow 5000 tons of cannabis overnight?  It will take many months to ramp up production high enough to meet the demand for it...

This is simple economics and has NOTHING to do with socialism or capitalism... don't be stupid and try making this into something it is not

If this is you taking a pot-shot at socialism (sorry for another double-entendre)... you are a fool

Why, after all the excuses and rationalizations by you socialists, the capitalists to your south stand ready to help, with their cash crops.

I'm doing nothing other than pointing out the total absurdity of Communist bread-line-style pot lines and shortages.

First of all guys Canada is not a socialist country.  Canada is a social democracy, and there are some fundamental differences that I am sure few folks here would understand.

Second supply and demand a social democracy issue?

Last, I can assure you there hasn't been a weed shortage in Canada since the 1990's, so the entire argument is stupid anyways!  Canada is known around the world for producing some of the best strains ever!  

We are now building the infrastructure required for large scale legal production and when the American feds open the borders American companies will be behind the 8 ball and will send hundreds of millions of dollars across the border into Canadian Weed!!!!

Just another example of how much more progressive Canada is.  An entire market is emerging and it could be as large as the alcohol industry and Canada is building infrastructure that will allow us a MAJOR head start on American and European companies and billions will flow into Canada as a result of us being the first G7 country to legalize recreational canabis federally!


Dude there are no fucking bread line style pot lines and shortages, I guess you won't believe me but that doesn't change the fact that pot has never been easier to get than it is today.  From some one who lives here and enjoys canabis.

lol...

Just joking...didn't mean to give you nightmares about the long lines of tomorrow...

Congratulations middle class Americans you guys are getting a 10% tax cut before the mid terms.  That means within the next 2 weeks Trump is going to get new tax legislation through the house (the house isn't even in session until after the mid terms...).

More unprecedented lies from your pussy grabbing megalomaniac!!

Great! More extra money for all the guys to give to the girls!

Operation faithful patriot appears to be underway.  5200 Soldiers are being sent to the border to deal with the mobs!

I'm not sure what the troops are supposed to do as by law they can not engage in domestic policing, including arresting people crossing the border illegally...  

I mean unless they revoke habeas corpus.!.!.

We are being invaded.  The people invading our border are not subject the protections against "domestic policing" as citizens, because they are not "domestic" or citizens.  Regardless of what Cameltoe Hairbag has lead you to believe, our military not only has the right to protect our borders, but the obligation to do so.

LOL invaded LOL the brown people are coming!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know what domestic means?

This is gonna be sooooooooooo awesome!

I am "brown people."  Do you know what sovereignty means?

Immigration is a massive distraction from the real threats and problems;
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The trade war is going absolutely horribly, we're nearly to the point where we just say "fuck it, tax all of China's goods" cause they keep taxing strategic locations of American goods; so we're going 'nuclear' there. Economics is a social-political thing more than a governmental thing. I can't believe the conservatives think that the government should get more involved in trading is good thing. Starting the trade war over solar panels was a dipshit move. We're going to see this faux-economy bubble crash hard and crypto's gonna stay steady and rise from the ashes of USD. If I had to guess in this 'sector' of thought, $100k BTC by 2020.

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We've entered the positive feedback loop my friends. Even if we were to cut emissions to 0% today, weather's going to get more extreme, and it's only going to be a harder fight. Wealth is going to be helpful for you and your kids. If you can afford a dome, you'll probably have a great life. I'm assuming a dome will be around 10 BTC by 2070. Good luck.

Then again, the government could just make radical change now and start massive programs to reduce and fight against the cycle; literally declaring a war on mother nature herself. Massive projects; to change the landscape of massive parts of the world to offset our previous emissions. Introduce tariffs on carbon emission to hasten the reduction of carbon emissions globally.

We needed to be proactive against the war years ago, and yet, we're just sitting here while the enemy continuously builds it machines of war increasing the threat to everyone, everywhere.

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I'd rather discuss economics or climate change, those two political issues seem more larger than a group of like 500 people.

The solution the government has integrated so far is detain, release, supervise for asylum seekers. As criminals would be weeded out during background checks. Really, allocating additional resources towards the problem isn't really even required as the ingress isn't much larger than 2000-2010. So, again, I'd rather discuss real issues instead of someone's obvious distractions.

I am white people what does each of our race have to do with the price of horse shit in China?

Sovereignty, has someone declared war on the USA cause I missed that fucking memo...

You're the one who threw down the race card, I only replied appropriately.

War hasn't been declared, but an uninvited horde of thousands intent on abusing our system, or otherwise ignoring our borders, is an invasion.   You can paint it any way you like if you prefer alternate semantics.  You are also welcome to ignore the cost to, and effect on our society, the strain it puts on the middle class.  You can minimize the difficulty in vetting the horde for criminals and insane, and possibly terrorists.

You may also insist I have an obligation to pay higher taxes to account for the services the horde needs, and tolerate more crime once they've marched into my country. 

Or, you can choose to ignore the big picture all together, and just call me a racist.  That'll settle it.

Yeah, its pretty funny. These guys don't even have any idea who they are talking to. Probably the same kind of people that would unironically call a black man a white supremacist to his face.

Another question, are any of you even from the USA?

I hope you guys have enough bullets, I hear babies are harder to hit!  Maybe you guys could ask the Saudi's for some advice on how to use your missiles to bomb civilians!

Seriously you need to send thousands of military personal to stop a horde of a few thousand unarmed, walking civilians.  Cool!

Because this mob has not heard that one Texas Ranger will stop the entire crowd.

Maybe we should send them on through to Canada? What do you guys think?

:(  Our prime minister will give them each $30,000 and a free house.

I would be in favour of them entering Canada by any legal means possible.  If they show up on our border seeking asylum I would expect our government to follow Canadian laws and process them as compassionately as possible according to the fucking laws we have on the books.

I assume if they made it here they would be vetted and some would be allowed to come here for a chance at a better life and pay taxes and contribute to our society.  Any person that can walk with their kids for thousands of miles is someone I would personally consider hiring based on their sheer determination & tenacity.

I also think the Canadian PM would be smart enough to ask the humanitarian organizations to assist in helping assimilate or maybe find other countries that need immigrants.

Everything is a fucking problem for you guys and an attack holy shit its a few thousand civilians with children, I guess you're nation is so fragile it feels under invasion by a few thousand scared 3rd world civilians, wow you guys are tough AND cool!

I would be ashamed to be Canadian if we unilaterally said FUCK off losers, to any group of people...

Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it. BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

It's not more nuanced if I was American I would say the exact same thing.  Process them by the laws currently on the books.



I would be interested in reading the source information for this claim.  

The first country you step into after leaving your country is irrelevant to seeking asylum in Canada.

This isn't Canada.



From a pro asylum site: https://www.asylumist.com/2011/02/02/new-asylum-law-in-mexico-could-reduce-the-flow-of-refugees-to-the-u-s/

"As I’ve discussed in this blog previously, African, Chinese, and other asylum seekers enter the United States at the Mexican border and then file for asylum in the U.S.  If these people pass through Mexico without requesting asylum, it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States (for example, they might be deemed less credible).  If they request asylum in Mexico, and their request is granted, they would be ineligible for asylum in the U.S., as they would be “firmly resettled” in Mexico for purposes of the immigration law."

You quote some weird site referencing a Mexican law LOL good one bro!!  I hope you're not a lawyer IRL!!!  And the site doesn't even say its illegal to seek asylum after entering Mexico it just says "it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States" in what type of a pea brain is that the same as "none of these people have legal claim to asylum here"


It might help your case if you could cite some actual AMERICAN laws to back up a claim that seeking asylum is illegal unless you go from your own country directly to the US.

YAWN. Rather than actually look into it you default with the insults and the predictable childishness. Tell me again, what gives you the right as a Canadian to tell people in the US how to live?


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/world/americas/mexico-migrants-caravan-asylum.html

I asked for you to cite the law you claimed was being broken and you have yet to do that...  I am sorry your precious feelings are hurt but I like to call stupid people stupid, not enough of that going around these days!!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't mind me I'm not a politically correct liberal...

Another article but I don't see the law you claim they're breaking, did the agreement get signed??


Nothing gives me the right and I have never once said I have any right to tell you how to live.......

theymos however gives me the opportunity to discuss whatever fucking topic I motherfucking feel like regardless of what fucking country I fucking live in...

What gives you the right to question my ability to express my opinion here sounds like you want to censor me....

That's cute coming from you and your barely literate commie buddies dogpiling. How would I even begin to censor you? What am I gonna fly to Canada and take your maple syrup and your favorite hockey stick? You don't vote here, you don't pay taxes here, and you don't have to pay the long term costs. It is easy to be charitable on some one elses dime.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15

Happy now cupcake? Or do you plan on continuing this fit?

have some more:

"(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

I did not say you were trying to censoring me because only an idiot would think you could do that to me.  I TYPED you WANTED to censor me.  I know reading comprehension is difficult, but words actually matter...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15

That law has nothing to do with walking into another country before seeking asylum

 

Where is the law backing up this exact fucking claim, not some general law that could be used for any reason.

Will I continue to post here and call out your lies when I read them, yes.  Thanks for reading!

Actually, I have also heard this, and do not doubt it has law backing it.

Just for fun, why don't YOU look up the law that is leading Trump to assert he can solve the illegal-baby problem with an executive order?

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15

That law has nothing to do with walking into another country before seeking asylum[/quote]

Oh is that a fact? Gee because to me it pretty clearly looked like as I linked in the PREVIOUS ARTICLES they were talking about making Mexico a safe harbor nation, and since it is a such now, passing thru a safe harbor nation to get to another safe harbor nation pretty thoroughly demonstrates that the motivation is economic, not because of "oppression" or something as the asylum laws were ACTUALLY designed to take people in.

"An alien is considered to be firmly resettled if, prior to arrival in the United States, he or she entered into another country with, or while in that country received, an offer of permanent resident status, citizenship, or some other type of permanent resettlement unless he or she establishes: "

Mexico has offered them asylum. They don't get to cherry pick where to they run from "oppression" (ie poverty). Poverty is not an admissible asylum status regardless.

https://i.imgur.com/tOSey7L.jpg

Ah, yes, this thread still exists.

https://i.imgur.com/SQFY1vs.png

So descriptive of modern day conservatives. Blame the liberals for everything.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds5MwsWV4AAnq-J.jpg

You will also notice that is a smoke canister, not a CS gas canister as fired from a 40mm launcher which is the typical CS gas delivery mechanism.

Fake News.

https://i.imgur.com/MMfA0of.png

Pretty much all conservatives everywhere. Rofl.

That is an interesting criticism from a Marxist that literally requires victim hood and victim status to push any of your ideologies.

What Trump's voters see when they see a library.

https://i.imgur.com/IX3HEer.jpg

Just related to the indictment naming Trump as a felon today ;)

I have to say watching Kirsten Sinema being sworn in to the senate by Pence was so fucking awesome.

Watching a homophobic evangelical being forced to swear in a bisexual atheist using a law book instead of a bible was so fucking awesome LOL.

Meuller got a 6 month extension for his grand jury!

White Shrek is going to get hauled up to the hill.

Republicans are going ape shit over Tlaib's use of the word motherfucker LOL.  They don't seem to care when Trump uses the word motherfucker though.  The hypocrisy in the GOP and their base is absolutely hilarious!

I'm sure all that evidence of collusion you swear exists will drop any day now. No one gives a shit about her use of expletives, they give a shit about her blatant disregard for the office and government she was just elected to serve. You go ahead and keep believing the right are the puritans while the left are the ones trying to tell people what words are acceptable, who is allowed an opinion, and sit around reassuring each other of their moral superiority all day.

It takes one to know one. Ya think?