Shoot The Shit About American Politics

[Vod]

War hasn't been declared, but an uninvited horde of thousands intent on abusing our system, or otherwise ignoring our borders, is an invasion.   You can paint it any way you like if you prefer alternate semantics.  You are also welcome to ignore the cost to, and effect on our society, the strain it puts on the middle class.  You can minimize the difficulty in vetting the horde for criminals and insane, and possibly terrorists.

I hope you guys have enough bullets, I hear babies are harder to hit!  Maybe you guys could ask the Saudi's for some advice on how to use your missiles to bomb civilians!

Seriously you need to send thousands of military personal to stop a horde of a few thousand unarmed, walking civilians.  Cool!

Maybe we should send them on through to Canada? What do you guys think?

  Our prime minister will give them each $30,000 and a free house.

[Flying Hellfish]

Maybe we should send them on through to Canada? What do you guys think?

I would be in favour of them entering Canada by any legal means possible.  If they show up on our border seeking asylum I would expect our government to follow Canadian laws and process them as compassionately as possible according to the fucking laws we have on the books.

I assume if they made it here they would be vetted and some would be allowed to come here for a chance at a better life and pay taxes and contribute to our society.  Any person that can walk with their kids for thousands of miles is someone I would personally consider hiring based on their sheer determination & tenacity.

I also think the Canadian PM would be smart enough to ask the humanitarian organizations to assist in helping assimilate or maybe find other countries that need immigrants.

Everything is a fucking problem for you guys and an attack holy shit its a few thousand civilians with children, I guess you're nation is so fragile it feels under invasion by a few thousand scared 3rd world civilians, wow you guys are tough AND cool!

I would be ashamed to be Canadian if we unilaterally said FUCK off losers, to any group of people...

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Maybe we should send them on through to Canada? What do you guys think?

I would be in favour of them entering Canada by any legal means possible.  If they show up on our border seeking asylum I would expect our government to follow Canadian laws and process them as compassionately as possible according to the fucking laws we have on the books.

I assume if they made it here they would be vetted and some would be allowed to come here for a chance at a better life and pay taxes and contribute to our society.  Any person that can walk with their kids for thousands of miles is someone I would personally consider hiring based on their sheer determination & tenacity.

I also think the Canadian PM would be smart enough to ask the humanitarian organizations to assist in helping assimilate or maybe find other countries that need immigrants.

Everything is a fucking problem for you guys and an attack holy shit its a few thousand civilians with children, I guess you're nation is so fragile it feels under invasion by a few thousand scared 3rd world civilians, wow you guys are tough AND cool!

I would be ashamed to be Canadian if we unilaterally said FUCK off losers, to any group of people...

Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it. BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

[Flying Hellfish]

Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it.

It's not more nuanced if I was American I would say the exact same thing.  Process them by the laws currently on the books.

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

I would be interested in reading the source information for this claim.  

The first country you step into after leaving your country is irrelevant to seeking asylum in Canada.

[TECSHARE]

Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it.

It's not more nuanced if I was American I would say the exact same thing.  Process them by the laws currently on the books.

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

I would be interested in reading the source information for this claim.  

The first country you step into after leaving your country is irrelevant to seeking asylum in Canada.

This isn't Canada.



From a pro asylum site: https://www.asylumist.com/2011/02/02/new-asylum-law-in-mexico-could-reduce-the-flow-of-refugees-to-the-u-s/

"As I’ve discussed in this blog previously, African, Chinese, and other asylum seekers enter the United States at the Mexican border and then file for asylum in the U.S.  If these people pass through Mexico without requesting asylum, it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States (for example, they might be deemed less credible).  If they request asylum in Mexico, and their request is granted, they would be ineligible for asylum in the U.S., as they would be “firmly resettled” in Mexico for purposes of the immigration law."

[Flying Hellfish]

Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it.

It's not more nuanced if I was American I would say the exact same thing.  Process them by the laws currently on the books.

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

I would be interested in reading the source information for this claim.  

The first country you step into after leaving your country is irrelevant to seeking asylum in Canada.

This isn't Canada.



From a pro asylum site: https://www.asylumist.com/2011/02/02/new-asylum-law-in-mexico-could-reduce-the-flow-of-refugees-to-the-u-s/

"As I’ve discussed in this blog previously, African, Chinese, and other asylum seekers enter the United States at the Mexican border and then file for asylum in the U.S.  If these people pass through Mexico without requesting asylum, it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States (for example, they might be deemed less credible).  If they request asylum in Mexico, and their request is granted, they would be ineligible for asylum in the U.S., as they would be “firmly resettled” in Mexico for purposes of the immigration law."

You quote some weird site referencing a Mexican law LOL good one bro!!  I hope you're not a lawyer IRL!!!  And the site doesn't even say its illegal to seek asylum after entering Mexico it just says "it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States" in what type of a pea brain is that the same as "none of these people have legal claim to asylum here"

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own

It might help your case if you could cite some actual AMERICAN laws to back up a claim that seeking asylum is illegal unless you go from your own country directly to the US.

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Oh I SEEE, it becomes more nuanced when it is your nation. I get it.

It's not more nuanced if I was American I would say the exact same thing.  Process them by the laws currently on the books.

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

I would be interested in reading the source information for this claim.  

The first country you step into after leaving your country is irrelevant to seeking asylum in Canada.

This isn't Canada.



From a pro asylum site: https://www.asylumist.com/2011/02/02/new-asylum-law-in-mexico-could-reduce-the-flow-of-refugees-to-the-u-s/

"As I’ve discussed in this blog previously, African, Chinese, and other asylum seekers enter the United States at the Mexican border and then file for asylum in the U.S.  If these people pass through Mexico without requesting asylum, it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States (for example, they might be deemed less credible).  If they request asylum in Mexico, and their request is granted, they would be ineligible for asylum in the U.S., as they would be “firmly resettled” in Mexico for purposes of the immigration law."

You quote some weird site referencing a Mexican law LOL good one bro!!  I hope you're not a lawyer IRL!!!  And the site doesn't even say its illegal to seek asylum after entering Mexico it just says "it could negatively impact their chances for success in the United States" in what type of a pea brain is that the same as "none of these people have legal claim to asylum here"

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own

It might help your case if you could cite some actual AMERICAN laws to back up a claim that seeking asylum is illegal unless you go from your own country directly to the US.

YAWN. Rather than actually look into it you default with the insults and the predictable childishness. Tell me again, what gives you the right as a Canadian to tell people in the US how to live?


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/world/americas/mexico-migrants-caravan-asylum.html

[Flying Hellfish]

YAWN. Rather than actually look into it you default with the insults and the predictable childishness.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/world/americas/mexico-migrants-caravan-asylum.html

I asked for you to cite the law you claimed was being broken and you have yet to do that...  I am sorry your precious feelings are hurt but I like to call stupid people stupid, not enough of that going around these days!!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't mind me I'm not a politically correct liberal...

Another article but I don't see the law you claim they're breaking, did the agreement get signed??

Tell me again, what gives you the right as a Canadian to tell people in the US how to live?

Nothing gives me the right and I have never once said I have any right to tell you how to live.......

theymos however gives me the opportunity to discuss whatever fucking topic I motherfucking feel like regardless of what fucking country I fucking live in...

What gives you the right to question my ability to express my opinion here sounds like you want to censor me....

[TECSHARE]

YAWN. Rather than actually look into it you default with the insults and the predictable childishness.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/world/americas/mexico-migrants-caravan-asylum.html

I asked for you to cite the law you claimed was being broken and you have yet to do that...  I am sorry your precious feelings are hurt but I like to call stupid people stupid, not enough of that going around these days!!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't mind me I'm not a politically correct liberal...

Another article but I don't see the law you claim they're breaking, did the agreement get signed??

Tell me again, what gives you the right as a Canadian to tell people in the US how to live?

Nothing gives me the right and I have never once said I have any right to tell you how to live.......

theymos however gives me the opportunity to discuss whatever fucking topic I motherfucking feel like regardless of what fucking country I fucking live in...

What gives you the right to question my ability to express my opinion here sounds like you want to censor me....

That's cute coming from you and your barely literate commie buddies dogpiling. How would I even begin to censor you? What am I gonna fly to Canada and take your maple syrup and your favorite hockey stick? You don't vote here, you don't pay taxes here, and you don't have to pay the long term costs. It is easy to be charitable on some one elses dime.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15

Happy now cupcake? Or do you plan on continuing this fit?

have some more:

"(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

[Flying Hellfish]

How would I even begin to censor you?

I did not say you were trying to censoring me because only an idiot would think you could do that to me.  I TYPED you WANTED to censor me.  I know reading comprehension is difficult, but words actually matter...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15

Happy now cupcake? Or do you plan on continuing this fit?

That law has nothing to do with walking into another country before seeking asylum

BTW none of these people have legal claim to asylum here... that only applies to the nation you first step foot in after leaving your own. IE none of them are here to enter legally.

 

Where is the law backing up this exact fucking claim, not some general law that could be used for any reason.

Will I continue to post here and call out your lies when I read them, yes.  Thanks for reading!

[Spendulus]

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It might help your case if you could cite some actual AMERICAN laws to back up a claim that seeking asylum is illegal unless you go from your own country directly to the US.

Actually, I have also heard this, and do not doubt it has law backing it.

Just for fun, why don't YOU look up the law that is leading Trump to assert he can solve the illegal-baby problem with an executive order?

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/208.15[/url]

Happy now cupcake? Or do you plan on continuing this fit?

That law has nothing to do with walking into another country before seeking asylum

Oh is that a fact? Gee because to me it pretty clearly looked like as I linked in the PREVIOUS ARTICLES they were talking about making Mexico a safe harbor nation, and since it is a such now, passing thru a safe harbor nation to get to another safe harbor nation pretty thoroughly demonstrates that the motivation is economic, not because of "oppression" or something as the asylum laws were ACTUALLY designed to take people in.

"An alien is considered to be firmly resettled if, prior to arrival in the United States, he or she entered into another country with, or while in that country received, an offer of permanent resident status, citizenship, or some other type of permanent resettlement unless he or she establishes: "

Mexico has offered them asylum. They don't get to cherry pick where to they run from "oppression" (ie poverty). Poverty is not an admissible asylum status regardless.

[bluefirecorp_]

Ah, yes, this thread still exists.

[bluefirecorp_]

So descriptive of modern day conservatives. Blame the liberals for everything.

[TECSHARE]

Ah, yes, this thread still exists.

You will also notice that is a smoke canister, not a CS gas canister as fired from a 40mm launcher which is the typical CS gas delivery mechanism.

[Spendulus]

You will also notice that is a smoke canister, not a CS gas canister as fired from a 40mm launcher which is the typical CS gas delivery mechanism.

Fake News.

[bluefirecorp_]

Pretty much all conservatives everywhere. Rofl.

[TECSHARE]

Pretty much all conservatives everywhere. Rofl.

That is an interesting criticism from a Marxist that literally requires victim hood and victim status to push any of your ideologies.

[bluefirecorp_]

What Trump's voters see when they see a library.



Just related to the indictment naming Trump as a felon today

[Flying Hellfish]

I have to say watching Kirsten Sinema being sworn in to the senate by Pence was so fucking awesome.

Watching a homophobic evangelical being forced to swear in a bisexual atheist using a law book instead of a bible was so fucking awesome LOL.

Meuller got a 6 month extension for his grand jury!

White Shrek is going to get hauled up to the hill.

Republicans are going ape shit over Tlaib's use of the word motherfucker LOL.  They don't seem to care when Trump uses the word motherfucker though.  The hypocrisy in the GOP and their base is absolutely hilarious!