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I can tell exectly what i'm going to do and what power and possibilities i have.
I go directly where it hurts.Since theymos is not reacting at all against false accusations it  means for me we have a free pass to do it.
Since my account is already being deeply in negativ trust because of Lauda and his gang i will give back the love the same way they come to us.
As a bitcointalk community member its my duty to inform people who coworks or may cowork with one of these faggots about their abuse and history.
I will collect all negativ posts about them (Lauda has how many scam accusations ?Lost his Mod position and later his DT status) and will forward this kind of information to anybody he coworks or may corwork
to inform them about my untrust to these persons including references by links.

Its nothing diffrent then the abuse of DT members which fucking negativ trust is instantly seen by everyone.
Since my feedback isn't been seen instantly by everyone i will make sure that important persons to these people will also see it and
lets see if they are going to change their mind or will start being pissed about these negativ feedback.
I made a small test in Lauda some months ago and he quickly deleted all posts about his abuse on threads which are under his moderation and instantly freaked out by giving again negativ feedback calling it harrassment.
So if you give negativ feedback and call somebody a scammer without evidence its feedback.
If i post relevant links about scam accusations of somebody its harrasment :)

Funny you have other opinions when something like that happens to you.


I collected enough evidence to show how shady you guys are.
Let's see how quickly you will react once people start reading everywhere about your history and expecially people who you cowork with when they get it as PM


People who will get the special treatment from me

suchmoon
TheUltraElite
Timelord2067
The Pharmacist
Lauda
actmyname


There is only one way to stop it.
Remove your negativ feedback or post proof that i'm a scammer who scammed or tried to scam.
@Timelord2067 proof that i'm an alt of Quicksilver since getting 1 Merit of QS is hardly something you can call a proof


@suchmoon i love how you promote your gambling shit......how you won $200 worth of BTC etc.....
Let's see if i can also spread the love to you with some facts.
@Lauda you know what i did in past and trust me this time it will be way better prepared and executed
@thePharmacist and actmyname you two guys are the ones i love currently the most and will use my freetime so say thank you for your great contribution to my trust rating and contribution to protect each other.

Let's see if a non DT member will be able to clean up the shit you guys messed up with.
You wanna keep ignorant and keep bullshiting .....ok i take this challange but don't get pissed once its started since there will be no turn back for me.

Giving the last 7 days till next monday before the special treatment starts.

Only possible way to get away is removing the false accusations (abusiv negativ trust) or showing proof that i scammed someone

P.S Please be aware that this will spread way outside of bitcointalk.

You fuck with a marketing veteran.....let's see how famous he is going to make you guys
People will see all reference link about you guys and a refference link me buying an account for a friend so he can post images and they will be able to judge themself who is the abusiv asshole on this board

Just a note> Quicksilver =! Quickseller

There is no use trying to blackmail the guys you mentioned in this thread..

If you really feel you have a strong case against them, you ought to have published it a long time ago.

Just as they did to you..

You very well know how this thread is gonna go/end up
Good luck

Maybe, It was an intentional typo  ;D

Where do i said i'm going to blackmail ?
Is informing the crypto community about very abusiv and some scamming members blackmailing ?
If so all DT members were blackmailing .....thats nonsense.

No i'm going to inform the crypto community about these people.
Since they are high ranked they can't change their accounts quickly and will need to take full responsibility for their actions.

Start will be a nice thread on 400 biggest crypto messageboards with a nice article about them to make them popular and people aware about that topic and their profiles
The next steps will be even bigger.




Thanks

OP I’m sorry but I don’t think anybody in the world is going to care what  you post about the accounts hou mentioned. It’s not exactly a crime posting negative feedback, is it?

Unless you DOX said individuals they’re just going to laugh at you, sorry.

What are you going to do, post on other forums saying ‘Lauda gave me red trust’. Nobody cares, sorry.

I do the same they did to me.I will hurt their business.
Actually i will do it diffrent since my accusations will be provided with proof and their accusations are out of thin air.
Once they feel it in their pocket they will react very quickly.

Ask Lauda how nervous he got once i started contacting his business partners sending only some links and posting evidence on his threads.


They abused the trust system knowingly to destroy my business reputation then its time to get them the same medicine.

What you think is something i don't care since these people don't care.

You guys have clearly no sense of justice anymore and therefor i start protecting my good name and business doing the same these faggots did with the only diffrence that i will post real evidence to not fall to their low level


Oh actually it has high interrest.You are aware that Lauda even has its own Subreddit with tons of bitcointalks members talking about the abuse of Lauda ?
You think such a subreddit would arise if there would be no interrest on that topic but people fearing of negativ trust when talking about it here?

Lauda has negative trust already

I/Everyone would appreciate if you have some proofs that they have scammed or doing some illegal activities here. Please share your proofs with us. Everything needs to be cleared.
But without sharing proofs, if you talk like that, no one will care. So, it's better to create a thread on scam accusation and share the proof.

@therapist i would recommend to sit calm if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Lauda has been accused many times of scams.He lost his Mod status because of that because the scam accusation was very clear.It was not the last accusation and there is a reason he lost his DT status.
Since Lauda is working as campaign manager he doesn't want these kind of thinks being seen by the project owners and anybody taking that topic back up will instantly quickly attacked by his gang to discredit him.

Lauda was never a mod. S/he was only DT member. Don't know where you have got the info. Have you any link where it is stated that Lauda was a mod?

I have just suggested you to create a scam accusation if you have proof. Also, I'm concerned about accusation against Lauda.

That's my bad. I was not concerned about that.

Oh so that's why I don't see the trust score under users' posts anymore, people are trading negative trust like it's a ping-pong ball!
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/5126208_michaeljacksonpopcorneatingjustgonnasitbackgrabthepopcorn_jpeg43a92dc44b725dd805b0df4d119e893d

Lauda was a Mod bud.

@op.. have you thought about smoking Marijuana ? it might help you out a bit.

Like i said if you have no clue sit calm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

There are way way more on Lauda and on the other members.


If you would read the forum carefully you would see that most of the other ones are connected to Lauda




Asks the guy who got accused and proofed for : Lauda/TMAN/minifrij/IronMarvel2/owlcatz extortion attempt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

IIRC, didn't you say you were going to do something similar last time as well? Before your hiatus.

What the hell has that got to do with the state of your mental health?

as I said - have you ever thought about smoking more Pot? or maybe some LSD? it might improve your life

Yes i did.You guys were lucky at had at that time a new big order and had no time for it.But currently we can make a private bet if you wish if its going to happen or not


A scammer is going to try everything to discredit someone exposing him.
I will feel way better when knowing noone is going to do business with you anymore

Whats the bet?

how much, what is the action and what will be the outcome?

1 BTC hold by a neutral Escrow.

what is the action and what will be the outcome?

They tagged you as your a account seller, you just contribute spam to the forum, not suprised.  ::)

Deal with it.

And you are clearly even to dumb to read

Looks like my trust rating on you is spot on. So I'm assuming I'm getting a free massage or something.

I really doubt anyone who calls others "faggots" has a good name anywhere.  :/

So in my case, you're going to inform a bunch of people about whatever it is you know about me (which probably isn't much), and those people likely won't give a shit anyway since I'm a complete nobody outside of bitcointalk.  I'm not even that big a deal on bitcointalk to begin with, outside of being on DT.

These threats seem to sound vaguely familiar to me.  The whole "I've got so much dirt on ____ and will release it in X days, so watch out" rings a bell, but I can't seem to remember who it was who last said crap like this.  For some reason, QS comes to mind but I could be mistaken.

I'm sure there are certain circles on the internet where that might not be true, but if he's going to include such epithets in his "expose" on the members he's listed, it's probably not going to reflect well on him.

Anyway, can't wait for the outcome of this.  My curiosity is piqued.

Indeed.  You can see a whole list of people here who trust those who use such terms to describe others:

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sx7BI.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016)

You might be off the hook. Instead some "pha racist" dude is gonna get... uhm... treated by the OP, who has trouble with spelling among many other things.

https://meem.link/i/a/23PfRC.jpg
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My rating does not even affect you anymore. Maybe it is time to let this go and get a life?

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Protip: Stuff like this usually results in more consequences.
/me is done with this thread. Cheerio.

I am not an expert, but I think you might have forgotten to explain why he is a scammer.

Oh don't sell yourself short, your trust score and your trust history indicates otherwise:

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I see Lauda already removed one negativ feedback from me :) .Good start.


But let's talk also about another topic about the abuse of DT members giving for the same action multiple negativ trust feedback even months later just to push somebody down .....


I got the negativ feedback for buying an account on august 2017.

For the same reference i get another negativ feedback from Lauda and ThePharmacist on January 2018 which means 5 months later.
Of course i didn't get it for buying that account but because i started questioning it to one of Lauda's gang members.

So after being punished for something which is not against forum rules 5 months later i get again negativ feedback from 2 stupid DT members for the same reference i recived 5 months ago.
Isn't this a clear abuse with the intention to discredit someone by giving him high negativ trustfeed ?

How does it come both gave me negativ trust at the same day which was 5 months after i received a negative feedback for the account buy for this action which was 5 months before that ?
Its clearly an attack and abuse of the DT power to discredit someone not important for what.

They gave that bogus feedback not because i bought that account but because i started questioning their actions and their gang is working quickly to push anybody down questioning them.

They just copied the reference link (archive) from the first poster and gave the same reason.
Are we going now to make for each one who has a negativ feedback 10 backup negativ feedbacks or is it to discredit someone to death who has legit claims against their group.

The last of Laudas group gave me even 7 months after buying an account a negativ trust feedback the 6th one for the same reason.
How many negativ feedback is someone getting when doing something "wrong" ?

How does it come other people got only 1 negativ feedback and me 6 for a single reason over a time span of 10 months?

You fucking peace of shits clearly wanted to discredit me in public .
(I'm sorry for using that kind of language ,since i don't use it normaly but these faggots make my blood boil)
As a gift for your love to me i will share all your info and past history with all your related people.

@Lauda about your consequences i give a shit.You want to go to court let's do it.

You took this path and i won't step back before my name is cleaned as peace of shits like you don't know what it means to have a name.
You choosed to discredit someone so lets see what people will say when getting a full detail about your past actions.

Oh sneaky Lauda, clearly got scared of your treatment. Here is how you can scare everyone else into removing their ratings against you:

• Go to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
• Paste the following into the trust list box:

• Click the Update button. Their ratings will be removed immediately.

This justifies you to abuse on other members?

I strongly agree with this

check my thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060006.0


hopefully anyone can stop their false accusations

No, this justifies me to laugh at Quicksy.

Looks like you are a retard demanding from other people quality posts but are unable to provide yourself a clear reference of somebody who scammed or tried to scam and being unable to admit it

That looks a lot like a deflection to me.

Just because justification was not posted, does not mean it doesn’t exist and a small number of these types of instances is different than giving these types of ratings on a regular basis.

I still can see Lauda's negative feedback on your trust page,go and check the untrusted ratings because now lauda is not a DT member so it won't show up in default trust ratings.

Any DT member can give as much as ratings if they want and more DT members can give feedbacks for the same reason also which doesn't means abusing the system tho,and more over -2 or -32 it won't make any difference,simply you can't participate in any campaigns. :P

I'm heartbroken as usual.


Right. So you don't need to provide justification but everyone else needs to do so in a manner made up by you. Sounds almost legit.


Dude... your trust history is littered with no-reference ratings, butthurt ratings, meaningless "I don't trust this person" ratings, etc. You're certainly not somebody who should lecture anyone on the topic of the trust system, Mr. Escrow Scammer.

I have clearly stated what I think of the OP and why, and provided a reference, and the OP was kind enough to confirm the validity of that rating with this awesome thread. If you don't like that you can... I don't know... cry or something.

VOD you are a DT member ?

How the fuck did you get it ?
You are even to dumb to read.
You gave me negativ feedback with the reason that i claimed that thePharmacist scammed 100 BTC from me ?


Where the fuck did you blind asshole read that ?
1.5x glasses are not helping anymore?

Would love to see your poor claim reference .And a stupid fuck like you is making false accuses on purpose ?

But i guess Lauda asked you to claim so ?Heh ?

https://i.imgur.com/6Vo8CXv.jpg

You are now part of my love circle

Now show me fucker one sentence where i claimed i got scammed by ThePharmacist
BTW reading your low quality threads you must be a retarded poor old pot smoker.
If you call the topics of your threads quality to bitcointalk i guess that would be the biggest joke in the century

47 years old and still so stupid ?You are clearly a shame for all canadians.

Because on the feedback you left me on 1/27/18, you put 100BTC in the amount risked, which amounts to the same thing.  That was only one of several feedbacks you left on my trust page on that day. 

Hey man, why are you complaining?
You literally left negative rating to users only because you don't like them:

https://i.imgur.com/in8Rrng.png

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I sense much anger in you. Ignored you will be.

Ha ha so you wanna claim now DT2 members are to dumb now to read comments ?

You guys are so pathetic i really ask myself who would choose such stupid people as DT2 members who are even unable to read comments and make assumption based on BS.

Also its says risked amount and not scammed amount which VOD claimed



I gave 2 people negativ trust because its was them claiming its ok to give negativ trust based on their mood.I just gave them which they said its ok so where is your problem ?

I get called a scammer without proof getting said i called thepharmacist a scammer who SCAMMED me for 100 BTC and there is no proof of that either more over you can say the DT2 members are to dumb to read feedback comments and the most funny thing is again thepharmacist never said himself over 10 months that i accused him.

But dumbfucks will always do everything.

You guys will get the love you deserve.

If DT2 members are giving feedback for worthless feedbacks to the users then they may not be at the DT2 member for too long.

And do you know how DT2 members are selected? they are not selected from theymos or other admin if DT1 member add them to their trust list then they will become DT2 member.

Yes i will contact today the DT1 members who elected VOD and will hold them responsible for his actions and permanent lies.

Maybe i will even go a step further on him with legal charges for calling me in public a scammer and a criminal.
He is a Canadian resident so he is obligated to not break canadian laws

You are not going to do this. This is because it will be a waste of time. Not only that, but it seems unlikely that anyone is going to look at your testimonies as reliable especially considering your behavior in your recent posts.

If you are going to attack anyone for slander then it would be of your best interest to expunge all cases of your slander. And no, the excuse "well DT members are doing it so I can too" is not admissible. Moreover, your claim is simply untrue. All trusted feedback leads to a relevant reference. All your feedback either has no reference or leads to a circle and is utterly pointless. Seems to me that if you truly are going to do this whole marketing thing, it would lead to backlash against you.

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You consistently make the false attribution that we have been calling you a scammer. This is untrue.
You consistently make the claim that we have no proof for our feedback. This is untrue.
You consistently justify your improper use of the trust system by pretending that you are parroting. This is untrue.
You consistently lie and deflect and insult and think that you understand the trust system. This is untrue.

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I haven't made that many replies here because really - I don't have to. You keep digging yourself down deeper into the hole that you've blasted with the creation of these threads. Your vendetta is unhealthy. It's an internalized obsession and it seems that you're merely projecting everything that you have done onto other users.

Most people can see that you have blown everything out of proportion and will reject anything that does not conform to your beliefs. Beliefs that are absolutely, demonstrably untrue.
However, you keep waiting. Waiting for someone to agree. Through your confirmatory bias you hold this user's opinion in high regard and simply ignore every other opinion, attributing it to part of the gang. And of course, there will always be a user that will agree with you. And you will always have that self-serving bias to justify your actions. That is because there will always be users that receive the negative feedback and feel indignant enough to create droves of threads about the "wrongdoing", seeking the same thing you are.

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In reality, your actions are not unique. I personally have seen the same anger and process of retribution several times. The end result is always the same: the user stops posting on the forum.

The sooner you let go of your obsession, the sooner you can move on with your life.

I will give only a small comment on your poor reply.

It was you who started the problem by giving negativ feedback with false claims and when being questioned you tried to discredit me at all cost make me look like a scammer and criminal which clearly harmed my reputation.I told you directly that you harmed my business with your false claims and lies and accuse of being a scammer and now even criminal.

You gave horse shit making fun and even trying to discredit more.I even warned you that i'm not somebody who will let false claims on my person go away

That whole situation is the result of your abusiv behavior as DT members and nothing more.
I said in the beginning i won't let my name stay in such a bad light.
You laughed about it asking what i'm going to do since i have no options instead of deleting your false claims or trying to resolve it.


So these are the options i'm going to use which are a result of your massiv abuse and ignorance of harming and defaming honest people and giving shit about it.


Oh so now i have it blown up because i didn't give up so quick like the rest of people you abused ?
The real blow is first to come

You wanna make a private bet via escrow ?



I collected already all evidences on every public post you called me a scammer ,liar,fraud etc and now even criminal.VOD will have an opportunity to proof these claims.

I gave time till monday and i hold to my word.
I surely won't let anybody call me in public a scammer and criminal without reacting on it.


Actually if you would google my name you would see that my wife is a lawyer running her own chamber.If you belive my reaction is not based on your previous actions then please feel free to sue me

We can stop right here.

My comment is exactly "Engaging in account sale conduct".
The reference points to a thread in which you state "If you accept escrow i will take it"

I do not see a false claim here. Would you like to tell me what is incorrect about my feedback?

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I just took a brief look at all the threads you've made. As far as I could tell, no one called you a scammer. Stop lying.

Posts where i'm being defamed as scammer and spammer

Next people who see the trust system instantly think i'm a scammer when not knowing me.
You are very well aware of it based on your old postings where you talk with other DT2 members

Funny you as so called DT member reacted on my post but didn't reacted on VOD for calling me a scammer and criminal.
Seems you agree with it


What was my comment ? Based on that comment part of DT members agree i claimed thepharmacist scammed me for 100 btc ?

A great example of the double standards on this forum the community is complaining about

Wrong. Vod has not called you a scammer. Vod has however called you a criminal. The only reason I didn't see this is because I was not looking for the keyword "criminal" and because I am not omniscient I did not instantly recall the thread (which I hadn't read).

Double standards? What a non-sequitur.

Here's the case in point: you put down "100 BTC" as the risked amount in the feedback.
Why? There was no BTC involved in any trade or lack thereof.

Here's the case in your point

Everyone with a working brain instantly see for what my negativ rating was.What you guys are doing is to interpret something into it which doesn't exist.
You create false facts to discredit someone.Funny that thepharmacist and vod didn't said a single word about it the past 10 months as it was clear what the negativ trust was for and started creating new facts to discredit as they always do.And any DT member claiming its not clear for what the negativ trust was should instantly check his ability to interpret anything

VOD hasn't called me a scammer ealier ?This time he called me a liar,criminal and indirectly a defamer making false claims.


You must be blind not having seen the massiv amount of being called a scammer and fraud by Lauda and his gang even you participated in these threads.

Never saw you say a single word about it to anyone

But i will tell you something.You are a high professional in creating excuses or discrediting

Exactly. Your negative rating is for buying an account. I don't trust that behavior, full stop. You can choose to conflate this with being a scammer, but if this is the case, then clearly the same applies to you, correct?

All your negative feedback implies that those such users are scammers. Pray tell, why are they scammers?

Again, if you want to show a post that involves someone calling you a scammer (which you should be doing for each person you claim to have done that) then I will acquiesce.

I used the negativ trust feedback only once before since i never had to deal myself with a scammer other than bittrex which froze accounts without reasons for months, so i had not the right to do it.I started using it against members who abused the trust feedback system claiming you don't need to be proofen for a scam but its just enough if you don't like me and have no trust in me.
I gave to noone negativ trust besides people abusing that system or claiming that the trust system can be used for any reason

LOL yeah right.....VOD contacted you about my wording or did you stepped in without him asking?

You are free to do both of those things, but I suspect you won't do either and predict that if you do, it's just going to feed your impotent rage.  Vod's not getting removed from DT over your problem, and law enforcement would probably try to stifle their laughter.

This is what I've been trying to explain to him.  The amount he put in that feedback is the basis for Vod's claim that Thule is lying in his feedback about me by claiming I scammed him for 100 bitcoins.  Thule either doesn't understand it or is willfully ignoring it.  It bothers me not a bit either way, given that I have many negs from people who have made some very specific claims of me scamming them for very specific amounts--and none of them include any valid (leading to evidence of me scamming) references, and most don't include reference links at all.

I've made mistakes in tagging members before, and when I realize my mistake I try to make good.  But there's a world of difference between a mistake made with the intention of trying to warn others against a shady member or outright scammer, and revenge feedback.  The latter is what Thule is engaging in, as are most people who've left me (and Vod, Lauda, actmyname, marlboroza, and others) negs.

Back in January, you wrote this post:
At that time account sellers/buyers were routinely getting tagged by DT members even though it isn't explicitly against forum rules--and the practice of doing such had been discussed since probably 2016.  The forum has rules, but the community has standards.  Bitcointalk doesn't moderate scams, for instance, but you can be damn sure scammers are going to get tagged.  Thus your argument above holds no water.

I don't think all account buyers/sellers are scammers, but it's a behavior that I don't trust and I believe in my usual feedback statement "Account [buyers/sellers] are not to be trusted" when I leave it on people's trust page.  Now that I've been called out for fucking up royally  in the case of iluvbitcoins, I'm going to be weighing individual circumstances a lot more heavily before handing out negs to account dealers.   Having said that, my feedback on Thule is on the money. 

I've also been known to remove negs from members when they've demonstrated improvement, but based Thule's shitty attitude, empty threats, and unjustified retaliatory feedbacks, that's not likely to ever happen.

While the website does give that description for the negative feedback it doesn't hold true in practice. Account buying is mostly used for scamming, therefor DT members give negatives on it.

This forum should be considered unmoderated. While some obviously illegal things do get deleted and taken care of to limit the liability of the website owner and admins, there is very little moderation going on in the marketplace. As such, DT1 and DT2 has stepped in to try and fill that void with some sort of moral standard. And since it is mostly an unorganized group of individuals there are conflicting moral agreements and things like that. Those people are literally all we have in terms of scams/reprehensible behavior.

You can say it's illegal, and maybe some things are, and certainly there is rampant scamming which is illegal, but Theymos will probably not respond to subpoenas given to him for user data even if you somehow found him and got a lawyer in his country to issue it.

So this forum is great for public discussions but very poor for marketplace activities or anything involving money, which I've come to understand from being a member in a heavily moderated forum that was made for marketplace transactions. That forum even goes as far as creating hashes of IP addresses and displaying them and all matching IP hashes publicly to see if the same user is coming back so they can prevent them from scamming. The moderators and admins actively view first posts to see if a non-home IP address is being used and if not issue a huge warning about that user. Maybe Bitcointalk just isn't the forum for you, and that's ok. It serves a good purpose and is flawed, but nobody should really be mad about that.

I understand it perfectly.Anyone seeing that feedback i gave must be a retard claiming that i accused ThePharmacist to scam me 100 BTC.
Its a poor attempt to discredit and nothing else.

About law enforcement.
I had today a longer call with the canadian embassy here and they were very helpfull.
No laugh at all but being serious that someone called me a scammer and criminal which is defaming.

I won't comment much on it anymore.Its a waste of time.Let's speak actions.

I gave a fair warning and deadline till monday.

After that its your path you guys choosed since calling me a scammer and other words to discredit me is nothing i will accept.
Maybe the majority of forum members will accept it but not me.
I have never scammed anyone or have ever been in court charged of criminal activities so you will have a chance to proof your claims in the real world and explain the judge you just wanted to clean the forum by defaming honest people.




I understand these issues since i am running myself several forums which i build over the last 11 years.
However i would never allow to play judge and defame somebody calling diffrent names without even knowing if he scammed or not.
The defame was a clear attack NOT because i bought a single account no it was because i didn't agree on their argumentations.
I told them clearly the reason i bought an account that i read the forum rules before buying and even asked a Mod if its allowed which he confirmed.
They started making me look like a scammer and even calling in public.
I asked them to remove it and instead i got a bunch of dickheads who have clearly some ego issues attacking me with diffrent names and defaming.

I have nothing done which could lead to call me a scammer,fraud,criminal .

They defamed with clear intention to destroy somebodies reputation and give a fuck if its legit or not.

They claim they have the right to do it because there is a community consensus about it.
Funny i never read about any of these consensus.Just some DT members talking to themself is no community consensus expecially when the forum  rules clearly says its allowed and even a mod confirmed it positiv.
Instead of saying listen we will make it neutral since you actually checked the forum rules and asked a mod which could lead to that situation they punched me with massiv negativ trust calling diffrent names etc without having any proof i ever scammed someone.
You think if i would be a scammer i would care about that account ?
I could just go and buy a legendary.
The issue is that my nick is being known on other boards and this discredits my person and my company when calling me fraud,scammer,criminal and i told them about it and that i can't accept something like that.
Since they had never before someone who really cared about his name they were teached to discredit someone and move on.

Here its not going to happen.
Lauda is smart and already deleted a comment.
I also never planned to go to court but VOD clearly explode anything by calling me in public a criminal.

For your info the defentition of a criminal :



You guys are talking a lot about defending from scammers.Who is defending me from abusers who defame and discredit without proof ?
The forum rules clearly says they won't play judge but you did without providing any evidence that i scammed anybody because buying a single account is no evidence of scamming anybody.


defamer :

That's a good point. Perhaps I should e-mail Thule (https://www.thule.com/) and let them know that some asshole is discrediting them by running around intertubes with their name and saying the stupidest things.

Nah I'm too lazy for that.

Do i need to understand your BS ?

Your are even unable to distinguish between the person with the nick thule who runs a company and the company named thule which has a trademark on that name for roof boxes.

You wanna me explain also for your limited thinking why anybody can use that name when its not related to roof boxes.

I'm not going to keep argueing with people who have clearly no knowledge at all about law which they already proofed several times in the past.

Nobody gives a shit about your name. Your trust ratings aren't visible publicly so no one outside of this forum would even know about it if you didn't whine so much.

On the other hand, the ratings you sent to other people are mostly false and unsubstantiated, which further defeats your claims. Did you mention all that to the Canadian embassy?

Whats your issue jumping from one topic to the next and getting destroyed?

I never discredited or defamed someone without proof.
You got your negativ rating for commenting that its ok to call someone a scammer and fraud without proof that its just enough that somebody just has such an opinion and that i should calm downand accept it.

Funny that you instantly whined like a baby for the red trust i gave you claiming its unfair and adding a red trust to my account as revange :)
Didn't you just said 5 minutes earlier its ok to make negativ feedback and calling names if somebody feels so even if he has no evidence or nothing happened?

Funny you changed your mind so quickly once you get involved.And yes i have no issue showing that in court since i got your indirect permission to do so.

Exactly like I stated in my feedback - you live in alternate reality. No such thing happened in this universe.

This is the crux of the issue with Thule's rant against Vod's feedback (or at least part of it).  You'll notice that when I tag account sellers, I don't enter an amount for "risked BTC" because that would imply that I was scammed for that amount or at least there was some sort of transaction with bitcoin at stake. 

Thule entered 100BTC as the amount at risk when he left me one of his 3 negs.  There was absolutely no need for that, and anyone reading the feedback might actually think I scammed you for that amount--regardless of the text of your feedback.  It was a wrong thing to do, and that's why Vod called you out on it.

How about you expand on that statement and just state that you're going to stop arguing with any people about this non-issue.  It's obviously getting you nowhere, and I suspect people are tired of responding to you when this crap keeps going around in lunatic circles.

You are posting nonsense.How does it come it didn't bothered you and Vod for 10 months these 100 BTC you claim i say you scammed me ?
First of all its the risked amount and not scammed amount.Who doesn't say if i go your stupid thinking i may lose 100 BTC because of your false feedback and claims ?
Now show me where i have been pledged guilty of a crime that Vod called me openly a criminal.

But rest assured Vod will be able to explain his view to a judge.I'm pretty sure that judge will ask him if he smokes pot or something else if his conclusion is based on the trust feedback i gave you as no normal person could have such an conclusion based on the feedback i gave.
There is in the real world something called reasoning and no judge ever will accept the kind of thinking Vod is providing.

Its also funny how hard you insist that the amount of BTC is being the amount you scammed me even it only asks for risked BTC and not scammed BTC but deny the fact that when giving negativ trust you officaly
claim i scammed or tried to scam you "You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer." claiming its based on trust and has nothing to do with scamming.

The judge will surely ask how its possible that other members will think you guys gave me that negativ trust feedback just to alert people when everyone who is checking it will see
"You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer."

Also when the judge will check your profiles and see the massiv amount of people giving you negativ feedback for the same reason i freaked out and where you can provide no evidence than i can tell you it will be an easy game

Hmm, I am the first to admit I am wrong when I have mistrusted someone.  I can remove the negative trust.

Did you risk 100 btc with The Pharmacist?


I see you claiming you risked over half a million dollars with The Pharmacist, and it turned out to be a negative experience for you.

That's pretty serious defamation... common sense would tell most people to not trust him, right?

So, can you provide proof you risked that coin?

If you can sign an address showing you had 100 btc during the time period, I will remove the negative trust.

I am very fair.  :)

(Note:  I talked to the Canadian Embassy - they said your message was garbeled and they need you to call back...


Well, if those judges do that, I won't invite them over for the holidays, even if my mother says I need to include my cousins.  :/

Let's see how smart you will be in court.I just made a screenshot and will also forward it.

Hmm, did you talk to Bob, Roger or Fiona?

Hope it's not Fiona - she tends to dismiss cases where the person is obviously lying.

P.S.  I am just as smart in imaginary lawsuits as i am on the forum.  :)

If you think your IP can't be found you are in mistake
But a small research of your old posts will give also some hints i guess.
Maybe even your old ICQ number will help
or the adress of your expired domain

My old 8082129 ICQ number?

You want my public IP?  I'm not on TOR.

Your Public IPv4 is: 104.205.172.244
Your IPv6 is: Not Detected
Your Local IP is: 10.69.169.149
Location: Slave Lake, AB CA
ISP: Telus Communications Inc.

Thank you Martin will make things easier and quicker

Let me know if you need any other information!  :)

BTW - you need to be 18 to file a lawsuit in Canada, so if you want to file right away, you'll need to get your parent's permission.

It will be a lawsuite from Netherland where my company is registered.
Am just checking your real info since i saw already some people tried to get your info

Such a waste of time and money just for a negative trust.

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Just create a new account OP if i were you.


And I think you'll be defined as a criminal for getting someone's information without their consent, this is going nowhere. Crybaby?

My life is an open book.

If a person has a legitimate grievance, they would have no issues finding me and having me served with papers.

I'm not worried about your lawsuit as everything I have posted about you is factual.

You want to waste your parent's money, you go ahead.  :)

Martin ugly staff i found about you.Very ugly.

I don't even want to post it in public because its so ugly.

Do you know about the rip off reports from your old coworkers ?
WHat they wrote about you is so ugly i'm not going to even repeat it.
However he also said one sentence which confirms my opinion

The other points i won't post here but its disgusting if its true.

There are no online reports from old coworkers.  But you have your lawyer look at them.  :)

Thanks.  It's as true as Flat Earth.  :)

Everyone who has a beef with me stoops to that level.  It's sad, so thanks for your support.

but the pictures are real also your social media accounts,domain, adress ?

Yep.  Copied off my public linkedin profile.  :) 

Then they are free to just make up whatever they want.

How did they know you like grass?



Its factual that i'm a criminal and scammer?

I grew up on a farm - I spent hours playing in the grass with my dog.  Odd question...

I didn't say you were a criminal.  I said you lied about risking 100btc.

You called me in public a criminal.I got it on screenshot.
Are you on drugs or something that you don't remember what you wrote 24h ago ?

https://i.imgur.com/mtC76ij.jpg

Also you wrote i stated that thepharmacist scammed me with 100 BTC .Even if i would accept your stupid logic and would act like a dumb person even than i can't see where i claimed he scammed me for 100 BTC since its saying : Risked BTC and not scammed BTC which is a total diffrence.

Also Edmonton,Alberta right ?

Edmonton area, yes.  :)

Thank you very much.

If you can sign from an address that shows you had 100btc, I will gladly remove the negative trust.   :)

In court it doesn't work this way.You will have to provide proof of your claims.
And i doubt any judge will accept your way of thinking.You clearly have no understanding of law or justice
Your god acting who sets the rules will stop there.They will show you were your borders are.
Good luck

You'll have to prove you risked 100 btc on The Pharmacist.

Good luck to you!  :)

You clearly have no law understanding.
If you claim that i lied ,scammed and am a criminal its on you to proof these claims.
Don't forget innocent until proofen guilty.Since i know you can't proof it since i never scammed someone or have any criminal records or even cases it will be impossible for you.
And asking the judge that i should proof that your poor claims are invalid is not how the legal system works.

I would recommend to study a bit more law before acting these stupid.
Its a fair warning since i know what i'm talking as my wife is running her own chamber.
I said it multiple times i won't let these false claims stay.Decission how it goes is on you.
Its my last post on this topic and i will wait till monday.

I'll simply point to the feedback you left saying you risked 100 btc with The Pharmacist.  

Then it will be up to YOU to prove you risked that, otherwise what I wrote is true.  


Very nice of her to adopt an illiterate like you.  <love>

lol maybe someone enlighten him how the legal system works since his grey cells clearly have a lack of understanding,

No Vod is not enough,If you show that claim first you would need to proof that the 100 BTC are invalid.Its on you to proof it since its you who claim that.However i even highly doubt any judge is going to listen at that crap when reading the comment on that feedback but good luck.

And even accepting theoraticly your argumentation it will be interresting to listen how these leads to the claims that i'm a scammer and criminal.
Will love to see your explanation which leads to these claims from the risked amount of BTC.

You will have an opportunity to show how i tried to scam someone and also my criminal records which i have since you called me a criminal

Not a problem.  Judge asks you to prove you owned 100 btc.   You can't.  He dismisses your lawsuit.  :)

It seems you have a flawed understanding of the burden of proof.

The risked amount in your feedback to The Pharmacist is 100 BTC. Fact.
You have not shown that you have even traded with The Pharmacist, never mind risked 100 BTC. Fact.
Vod claims that your feedback shows a risked 100 BTC. Fact.
Vod claims that the 100 BTC risk is not substantiated. Fact.

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Your lawsuit is based upon this claim:

"Vod is committing libel by claiming that I lied, scammed, and am a criminal."

You have the burden of proof.

You need to substantiate why Vod's claim that you lied is false. You have the burden of proof.

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You're using a similar strategy to Christian apologetics in which they shift the burden of proof onto the one rejecting the claim. ::)

I see let's wait for the court to decide.
I see you want it the hard way.

I only say it one time.Don't think i will step back.


You will have to proof that i scammed someone which means you need to present somebody who i stole money from or tried to steal money
and you will need to provide criminal records of me since you called me a criminal.

If you are to stupid to understand you can't provide these since they are non existend than you will get a lesson which makes you understand it.


If you think these 100 BTC is going to protect you ok belive in it.You will be teached how the real world works


@actmyname your poor try to reverse staff
is just annoying,Your stupid comments doesn't even need any explanation.
People who have some knowledge about law know what i'm talking about.
You will get the hard lesson.Once there is a court decission i will make it public here.
You call somebody a criminal or scammer its not on him showing its not true but its on you to show that your claims are true and that you didn't defamed someone.
I know you both guys are not the smartest one which also shows your past actions but its starting to annoy me.
Monday and after that i will post the decission of court since its public.

I don't think you'll step back.... you'd have to step forward first... and you won't do that.

Since you are not posting again until Monday, I guess I can proclaim right now that Monday will come and go, and you will still be a liar. 

:)

While Thule may need to prove his case he can still drag vod into a court room and cost him money defending himself.

At vod let us know if you get served next week.

I have a friend that spent more then 20000 fighting a completely bogus lawsuit.

Hmmm, I just checked the future (vods can do that) and nothing happened.  :/


It will cost him money (he doesn't have) to file and follow through.

I will defend myself, costing nothing.

The judge will dismiss his case and he and I will laugh about it over dinner.

:)

Okay

Seriously, I know your friend spend lots of money on a bogus lawsuit, but Thule is a liar.  He is not suing me.  He is giving me until Monday to remove my trust, which is your standard empty threat.

I've been in part time law enforcement for 30 years and I grew up on a farm.  I can smell bullshit, and I can recognize an actual threat.

Thule is nothing more than a cowpie.  :)

You're such a trustworthy individual, any judge will immediately see that and will send Vod into an electric chair (or whatever they use for death penalty up there in Canada... drowning in an ice hole?).

You mean a security guard working 12-18h/day  ;D which you posted on your FB

Which law are you able to enforce as security guard ? LOL Calling the cops ?


Like i said i will get my satisfaction/justice......


Its always funny i don't know why but security guards always think they are smarter in law where they in general have no clue at all.
I don't know how its in canada but in europe they are basicly cheap workers without a good education but with a big mouth thinking they enforce any laws lol where in reality they have no special rights.

Are 18 hour days considered part time where you live?

I'm sure you will get satisfaction some day, but you'll have to get your cousin alone and drunk first.  :)

Thats what you posted on your FB

Also how can you as simple security guard enforce any laws ? LOL you have no additional rights but just the same like any other civilian.

Its always funny i don't know why but security guards always think they are smarter in law where they in general have no clue at all.
I don't know how its in canada but in europe and us they are basicly cheap workers without a good education but with a big mouth

How many friends do you have on FB even asking to add you back as friend ? 0 ? ? ?
Btw what is your height ?You look so small

That's about as likely as you suing me this Monday....  :P



YOU can't enforce any laws, but I can.

As a citizen of Canada, I have three powers of arrest.   :)

https://i.imgur.com/HAaB5OO.jpg

lol so i guess its going to happen
I didn't posted your face in the security uniform since i guess your comment on that picture is proof enough

I've never hidden the fact work as a part time security guard.  I am a people person - I enjoy the work.  I never work longer than 5-6 hours for a concert.

I've also never hidden the fact I work as a senior consultant for HP, which requires me to work until the project is done.

Can you put two and two together?  Maybe your "wife" can help you?

:)

I'm going to bed Martin.....Will see your actions over the next days and will react based on that.

Monday will come and go, and nothing will change.

Then Ill expect you to crawl back into your hole. 

I guarantee it.  :)

https://i.imgur.com/aIgh6h8.png

Ignoring the obvious trolling - here is my opinion:

Vod could easily base his defense on "honest opinion" based on what actmyname just said.


I disagree. The definition is clearly stated when you place the feedback.
So you claimed that The Pharmacist stole or tried to steal 100 BTC.
The onus of proof for that claim is on you.

https://i.imgur.com/hwPzQm6.png

Based on that it is my opinion that you would not only lose. You'd be liable for Vod's legal costs as well.


There you are wrong again. Because there is a far wider definition of "Criminal".

https://i.imgur.com/lwJFKpL.png

It can mean anything from being convicted of a crime, having committed an illegal (legal or religious) act or having done something despicable.


Considering that you are from Netherland where you claim your company is registered  - I wonder what the Dutch law says about releasing personal information about Vod. Europe has some of the strictest privacy laws. Obviously you believe it to be related to your company - otherwise you'd just lodge it in Poland where you live.

Ironically by saying you are going to do the lawsuit from the Netherlands - where libel can be a civil wrong, the statement can also constitute a criminal offense.
https://www.amsadvocaten.com/blog/litigation-2/libel-slander-and-rectification-in-the-netherlands/
So in the Netherlands you could potentially be liable for criminal libel towards the Pharmacist. You just fucked up your entire case by choice of venue.  ;D

Your post is a joke.But what can somebody expect from you.

First the imague you took out of context is me saving people from Quark scammers.Quark was and still is a pump and dump coin controlled by a scammer group.They of course claim its trolling but the old members here should remember quark very well.So your first try to discredit me failed.

The defenition of "being a criminal" is very clear.
Your image just proofed it.Vod statement is very clear.
You are a criminal
Other than that the defenition of criminal won't be taken from the internet where you can find anything to your needs but from the black law dictionary.Just for your info

And no it can not mean anything.Go back to school and learn basics

Next i didn't released any personal information which Vod isn't sharing already in public.So again your next claim is just poor.
I told them i run a company and i got issues with customers asking me if i scammed when reading these comments.I told them it harmed my company so its the company which lost income by defaming me.So its also the company which will file the lawsuite.Easy as that and your next poor attempt claiming its ilegal because i'm currently myself in east europe is the biggest joke i ever read.

If you think i'm not allowed to sue with my company which gets hit because of that defaming cause i'm living currently outside of that country than i can tell you you are totally wrong.

Beside that the judge doesn't care what nonsense you write.
Thats the beautiful going to court that the judge there won't even listen a single second of all that bullshit which is being posted here but will only use the real world law and not some personal defenitions of some people who seems to be limited in design of law

And also one and for the final time if you take Vod's claim serious than you are also obliged in court to take the rest of that page serious.

And it clearly says : Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

Now reading their comments i don't see a single proof that i scammed someone.They didn't gave a negativ for scamming which they admitted hundred of times.

Vod will be unable to claim in court 1. the trust feedback is to be taken serious when claiming at the same time the negativ feedback is not to be taken serious since some people decided they can also take it for other purposes when the page clearly says You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

The Trust feedback was designed for trading trust which you can clearly see when reading the explanation of "risked btc" .Based on Vod's multiple claims ealier in public that the trust system isn't only to be used against scammers or trades anymore he clearly made the risked btc worthless in those cases which mean the explanation of risked btc will lose its meaning if the trust system is being used for other purposes then it was created and defined.

Let's see how Vod is going to proof that i'm a scammer and criminal.


Having that massiv amount of abuse claims against Vod on his account and on the forum is not going to help him either.
Twisting facts like they are doing here continuously (for example the trustfeed explanation on page is valid if its in their favour and not valid if its against them "trust abuse for non scamming") won't be possible there.

ftfy

I'll have to be summoned to court before I can claim anything.

And that is not going to happen with a dishonest bozo like yourself.

:)

Is it Monday yet? Feels like Monday with that "businessman" yapping here again.

shit this is still going on... why people feeding the crazy?

canadian laws are awesome and clear








So like i said previous all your nonsense claims are invalid in court

I am afraid as much as you try and as hard as you try , the negative is going to stay especially when is valid. People are suffering non-valid negative feedbacks and they are used to it, you want to clear your name by threatening and blackmailing ? I don't think this will lead you to any good. As LFC_Bitcoin said either deal with the negative or start new, you can't do much, this is decentralized forum there are no cops here and if you are concerned about signature campaigns there are a lot of altcoin ones who accept red trust persons.

Bottom line, there is a solution to everything.

This thread is starting to get like:
https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2015/AK7cHT.gif
"I know you are, but what am I?  I know you are, but what am I?.. Infinity!!"    ;D

From a feedback perspective, Thule sealed his own fate with the way he's conducted himself after the feedback was left. Similar to a criminal who gets additional time when they come into court and decide to start attacking others in the courtroom. If the goal is or was to get a clean feedback record, he's already failed, and will continue to fail, whether a legal case has been won or not... but, uh, good luck with the legal battle, Thule... I'm sure there is much to be won here. ::)

I was wondering that myself, but Vod has had some pretty decent zingers aimed at Thule that were amusing to read.

Still, I think Thule has gone full mixan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=195206) at this point and it's probably best to start giving this thread the deaf ear.  I'm going to start this myself.  I have nothing left to say in my defense of whatever it is Thule thinks my crime is, but I shall be waiting with bated breath for LE to show up at my door with a charge that I slandered/libeled someone on the interwebs. 

Yep, and as you're looking at tort law, you would need to prove that there are damages.

If we're talking libel then you should show that Vod has made false statements that directly caused you damages.

But then Vod can always claim that there was qualified privilege or fair comment and dismiss your case, full stop. The latter being, "you strongly believe this person is a scammer" being applied to your asinine behavior.

This is such a trivial matter that at worst, it would cost Vod some gas money.

That's OK - I just bought a brand new Prius.  :)   The courthouse is close enough I could drive there on EV mode, using no gas at all.

Your analysis proves you don't comprehend any of it.  You'll find out.

Can I get special treatment too?  My wife thinks I'm a jerk....

Hey, you left trust:
Vod   2018-10-08   0.00000000      participating in merit circle

Where/When did I scam you?

If we take your claim serious then we are obliged to take the rest of the page serious...

You've called 24 people scammers without proof.

 ::)

What purpose has merit ?

Yeah i know your garbage twisting.
But once again for you candian laws :

Plaintiffs don’t have to prove falsity, malice or special damages to win a defamation suit. As such, Canadian politicians often use libel litigation as a way to silence critics.



Defendants are considered prima facie liable until proven innocent.



Actual Malice is not a requirement in Canadian defamation lawsuits, meaning the plaintiff does not have to prove that the defendant lied with malicious intent.



Just as info i updated my trust feedback to move it back to the use it should have and not the the one some stupid DT members turned it to.

Also Vod your twisting won't help you anymore.
You called me in public a scammer,liar and most important criminal.

If one of the other people want to take actions against my claims they are free to do so.However i won't have to explain myself in canadian court because the case there will be only you defaming me.

Since you keep ignorant and acting like a douchbag you will get served.

And you've called 24 people in public a scammer, liar and most important criminal.

Quickselller type hypocrite.    ::)


The word is arrogant.  Didn't you say your wife was a judge?

The case is between you and me only.
Anything else i said these people can open a case against me.They are free to do so.

No i didn't say she is a judge i said she owns a chamber/chancellery .Thats a big diffrence just for your info


@all
I got two PM's from 2 diffrent members asking me if they may join the lawsuite.
I don't currently know since i doubt this will be allowed by canadian law since in europe its 100% not allowed.
Also i will open a lawsuite via company and not my person.
I will call on monday a local lawyer and will post more information about it if it will be possible to join (maybe as company)

OK, but it makes you a hypocrite, doesn't it?  I'll easily show in court you were not offended by my words, since you issued the same words to many other people.  




Wow - I got 58 PM's from 56 different members offering to give me money for my defense!   ::)

I love the negative feedback you left for me.  You literally wrote I was bad for doing X, and then you did X on the next line!


"You called me in public a scammer,liar and most important criminal!!!!!!"

 ::)

My only reply to you since i have more important work to do as reading your poor argumentations over the weekend is that you as DT member who's feedback is being instantly seen by every member on this forum and as a person of trust has a total diffrent value then doing this as a "normal" member.

You have a way way higher responsibility on your actions since your actions have way way higher impact and reach.

In court this makes a big diffrence.


Your argumentation impresses me.Just shows it will be an easy case

I'll have to take your word on it.

You publically discredited The Pharmacist and stated he risked 100 btc with him.

I simply distrust you for lying.  Good luck collecting damages for my telling you to back up your claim.

 ::)

You called me before in public a scammer,fraud,spammer and now even a criminal which has been documented and backed up.

I really hope thats not your defense line.

If thepharmacist feels offended he has the full right to open a case.
You are not his lawyer nor his defendant and being only responsible for your own words.

For me that topic is closed now till monday.

Yep, and you did it to me, as well as a couple dozen others.

So?

 ::)

Any news Thule?

I'm curious if your lawyer laughed at you?

I will update it tonight.

Am just waiting for some more info and a reply from theymos which a mod forwarded me to.


We hired yesterday a local law company in Vancouver which has experience with such cases and which will represent us.

What is their name?   I'm going to find out anyway, so might as well tell me.

I want to know what kind of fly by night lawyer would represent you.  You claimed I did something that you did FIRST to 24 other people.

Scammer.   ;)

And boy would he have a hell of a hard time proving I scammed him for 100BTC.  No wallet I've ever been in control of has ever seen that amount of bitcoin.  Not even all the wallets I've ever used combined.

Yeah, OK buddy.  Can't wait to see you follow through with this--or simply disintegrate into an incoherent gibbering mass of insanity-jello just like mixan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=195206) did and eventually give up and go away.  It amazes me sometimes what some people will do for entertainment.

I'm guessing Saul Goodman.

So it's Tuesday, even Wednesday in some parts of the world. Has Vod been arrested, tarred, and feathered yet?


Saul Goodman is Thule's wife? That's quite a plot twist.

Got a reply from theymos that i will get only Vod's IP if i get a court order from the US.
I sent Martin on his facebook a request to confirm he is vod from bitcointalk.org to make things easier for me proofing its him so he won't be able to deny it.
Will save me time and work to go through US court.
Waiting for his confirmation on his facebook.


Will update the rest of the people once i get that confirmation from him

Not my Facebook account - no request received!

I run my website BPIP from my house - no need to bother Theymos - just grab it from there!    ::)

I need your IP Martin and not some fake details from a domain where surely your data is set on privacy.

And i didn't sent a request but posted a comment on your last entry.The picture of dumb and dumber


Edit :
Like i thought

Hey bozo,

Ping my website bpip.org and you will get my current IP.

Whats your problem to confirm it on facebook ?

There is no comment.  Only friends can comment.  Lies like this will not help your court case bozo.   ;)

I notice you called actmyname a complete idiot and a loan shark...

His is a fellow Canadian you know.. I'm going to walk over there right now and talk to him!  As soon as I get your papers, expect a counter-suit.

 ;)

LOL so your big mouth is now frightened to confirm on your facebook profil that you are martin lawrence ?

Come on Martin the comment is under your dumb and dumber picture from 1st november.Your last post there.

If you can't see it you can also make just a new post on your facebook confirming you are vod from bitcointalk.org

Where is your problem Martin ?

The problem is only my friends can comment on my images, so you are lying.  :)

Do you need help getting my IP?

IP address or host name:    
bpip.org

--- PING bpip.org(2001:56a:f860:9700:401:51de:6f91:4900) 56 data bytes ---
64 bytes from 2001:56a:f860:9700:401:51de:6f91:4900: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=156 ms
64 bytes from 2001:56a:f860:9700:401:51de:6f91:4900: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=156 ms
64 bytes from 2001:56a:f860:9700:401:51de:6f91:4900: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=156 ms
64 bytes from 2001:56a:f860:9700:401:51de:6f91:4900: icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=151 ms

You are free to do so.
First of all it was you and actyname which claimed the trust system is being used for your opinion.
So it will be funny to see in court why you switched your opinion of the trust system.

Also i would recommend for the defenition of the word usury

Why do you need to beg Vod (or whoever you're harassing on facetwit) for some sort of confirmation? Can't your lawyers sort this shit out with their lawyery magic?

Just make a post on your facebook that you are Vod.Thats enough for me.
You posting shit here is no proof at all who you are

the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

OK, define "unreasonable".

I think the interest rates he was charging were well in line with the standard average set on this forum over the past several years.

:)

Vod wanted to make it easy for me giving his real details.Now he is refusing to confirm he is Martin Lawrence on his facebook page.
So i guess i will have to go for the US.

It just proofed the big mouth of Vod.

Its just more hassle and time consuming.Since i thought Martin can't wait to get served i thought he will provide his identity like he claimed

Thats easy because its set by law ;) and not by forum average

A standard of reason is set by law?   You realize every house with a teenager has varying curfews which are considered reasonable?

OK, I'll confirm my Facebook address - send me your lawyer info.

 :)

Here, I pinged him for you. Vod's IP address is 127.0.0.1. That should be all the info your lawyers need.

LoL your explanation are always so funny.You can clearly see you are a security guard who has been trained to manipulate.
Lending money for profit is clearly defined by law and there is a max interest set.

I would educate myself first before getting punished for it.

And thats his IP based on what proof ?



Great waiting for it

So what this probably means is that you don't have any lawyers (I guess no wife either) and you're just trying to dox Vod for some yet unknown but likely spectacularly stupid purpose.

Edit:


Oh wow, I have to take back everything I said about you previously, forget all that. This is the ultimate proof of your immense stupidity but I'm sure you'll try hard to top it.

YOU need to send me your lawyer's info first before I can send him/her anything...

Like i thought.Vod a big mouth denying to confirm his identity.
Thats not a problem Vod.It will only take a bit longer to get served as i will need first to open a case in the US.
After that i got your IP and maybe i will also start a reward thread for people providing me proof that vod is martin lawrence since he is denying to confirm it.

Keep bullshitting as i clearly see you have no attendt to confirm that you are martin lawrence even you had such a big mouth before.
Since its a waste of time i will go another route.

Its just taking more time and nothing else.


I really hope it was worth it for you

I am not!  I am willing to confirm my identity right now!!!

Please send your lawyer's info and I will immediately send it off.

And thats proof that this is his home IP yes ?

TCP/IP
Damn, I did need a good laugh today. ;D


EDIT:
stop it!! roflmao  sides...hurting...


Next step: send the IP to the lawyer.

You claim to have hired a lawyer, right?  In Canada, right?

What harm is it to send me his info so I can speed up the process?

You understand that by denying me, you are increasing your legal costs....

It's a lot more likely you're just a liar.

 ;)

So now explain to me how do you know its not the house of his friend ,grandmother or whoever else.
Would love to know your explanation

Martin you will get served.You can trust me on that.I just see you are a big mouth which is lying and manipulating.Its worthless to give you anything.
I will start with the US and will ask my Canadian lawyer to find the adress of Martin Lawrence from Edmonton and send him a letter with the question if he is Vod from bitcointalk.org.
I will let the community know the answer........ if you/he even will answer it.

That's easy to verify. Ask your lawyers to ping 127.0.0.1


QFT

LOL i guess i should ask him to ping your brain

Trust you eh?  All you have done so far is lie...

Anyway, I want to say a big

http://asburyop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/thankyou.jpg

It's very unlikely another idiot will attempt to extort me like you just did based on my reaction in this thread.

 :)

Seeing one of these (https://www.rameder.eu/roof-rack-thule-wingbar-118176-00201-45.html) reminded me of this thread today.

I really must have posted in this thread, it's good entertainment so far.

Isn't 156 ms a bit slow for a home network? :D

I used one of those online ping tools.

For SOME reason, if I ping myself, I get a different address.  :/

Well I guess it is the IP of his friend, grandmother, or whoever else. The only explanation or proof needed to prove this is held within the intricacies of TCP/IP, your time would better be spent learning about this than seeking legal action against anyone.

I guess i clearly showed the community who has the big mouth running and is after that refusing to confirm his identity.
I gave you a fair warning and chance to remove it.
Calling it extort to demand to remove your false abuse calling me a scammer,fraud and criminal is funny.
You will do it anyway once you will be told to by court.
Its just a matter of time.

Since you deny to proof your identity i guess i will have to go a detour which will just take a bit longer.

As i'm tired to talk with a big mouth who posed to provide his identity and is giving permamently everything else but not that i will close that topic
today for me.
I wanted to post something public today for the other people who wanted to join but i guess i will send that info only via PM.
So if anybody is interrested to join against Vod's abuse please feel free to send me a PM.


Thread closed for me for today

I've offered to give my identity a couple times now.

He doesn't want it. 

 8)

See you next Monday, or in ten minutes.

Boy Thule, you have the community on your side alright!

It appears I'll have to loopback to this thread later once you've proven there is a lawyer.  ;D

I found one on Google already, no need to use a lawyer for that :D I don't want to dox a (possibly random) random person, so I won't post it.
Vod, do you have a red front door?

Maybe I missed it, but why would Vod have to prove his identity to you?

Trick question - partly red?  Because it is close to Remembrance Day.


ROFL

@anonymous guy


Thanks for your PM.You helped me a lot.

Confirmation from facebook account of martin lawrence is no more needed.


Didn't i told you already that you shouldn't care about my costs ?I have insurance for legal protection both for my company and myself.
So i don't care



@rest if you want to join please send me a PM.Will wait 3 more days as it will be the time arround which will be needed to get proof that he is martin lawrence or somebody else.


Goodnight

The queation is Thule, when are you going to return those 10,000 Quarks given to you in good faith?

You might want to read the fine print on that one. It's quite possible that it doesn't cover "being stupid and suing people on teh intertoobs".

Actually the insurance demands a letter from the legal company which will represents me that they regard my case/claim legit.
Since they told me the facts are very clear in that particular case there will be no issue to write such a letter.

Good morning.


Who's "they"?

Your imaginary legal company?

Insurance is not going to give you money for shits and giggles.  I tell you I'm willing to give you my identity and you say "No, I want to spend more money - it's not my money."

Hey, what are you suing me for anyway?

Because I said you are threatening members?  You were and are.

Because I said you lied about risking 100btc with The Pharmacist?  You did.

You live in a fantasy world, bozo.   ;)

You will get served for defaming and causing damage to my company.
You called me a scammer,fraud and criminal and didn't removed any of your claims even i told you to remove these false claims.You just laughed.You added me negativ trust as DT member which is supposed to be given if somebody scammed you or you strongly belive is a scammer.Your feedback is being instantly seen by all members on this forum as DT member which means your responsibility on giving this kind of negativ feedback is way higher than if it would do a regular member.
And like i said twice already.Don't worry about the cost.

You are not willing to give your identity at all.You are playing games which i'm not willing to play anymore.
I got a nice PM so basicly i don't need your proof anymore.I will get that proof in the next couple of days myself.

I didn't defame you.  What I posted was the truth - you won't get rewarded for being a liar.

I'm still willing to GIVE your lawyer my identity.   

You are a bozo.

 8)

Yeah so i give you the opportunity to proof your claims in court that i'm a scammer ,fraud and criminal.
If you can proof that then there is nothing you need to worry about.
I would love to see these proofs since you are not posting them here
who i scammed,what crime i did and where i have been pledged guilty and what fraud i did and where the financial benefit is.

The queation is Thule, when are you going to return those 10,000 Quarks given to you in good faith?

First of all it was not given in good faith but it was asked to use them for promoting.I agreed on promoting and made it clear should any of the old scammer come back i'm gone.
I'm not going to participate in any scam coin.If you want to keep defending a scam coin then maybe you are going to refund the millions of $ which have been scammed ?

Interesting... when I mention how you have called many people scammers, you tell me I should concentrate on myself.  Then you go and post this making you a hypocrite. 

Anyway, I hired an imaginary lawyer as well, and he told me not to worry about a thing, based on your honesty in this thread.

 8)

hey i thought you said ...


Dude, seriously... let it go man.... you've made a complete fool of yourself on this thread....thanx for the laugh mate.

Wait, so you absconded with some amount of shitcoin... because it turned out to be a scam? What that makes you then?

I have no idea what your company is and I sincerely doubt that anyone else does, either.

If anything, you are causing more damage to yourself by acting this asinine.

That defense is so simple...

Any damage that would have been done to his company was done before my feedback.  He already had negative feedback from other DT members.

My mouth is purdy.  For him to claim it is BIG when he has never seen it or heard it speak, ruins my chances of making out with someone.

What is my mental health worth?  A lot more than a ruined business - esp since he started calling people scammers first.

This is nonsense.

No 'scammers' came back.
You didn't promote Quark as you had said you would.

Therefore shouldn't you return the 10,000 Quarks given to you in good faith?

Didn't Evan return ?Has Max delivered anything ?Who still holds the private keys of the blockchain ?


@Vod you will be served you got my word on it.And it looks i won't be just the only one.
I received yesterday a second reply from theymos and got also an anonomous PM from somebody sending me some details about you.This makes i don't need your confirmation anymore since i can get it myself.As soon as i get it you will get served from my so called imaginary lawyer.

You think his scam accusations are legit ?Funny you as DT member jump instantly on it to safe your own ass not even checking if its legit or not.
Just proofs what kind of poor DT you are.
Since you will have soon my full name and adress you will be able to forward it to anybody who claims i scammed someone.
In contrast to you i don't hide myself.
But since you support the scam claim from quark maybe you ask him why did the biggest supporters of quark like quarkfx ,mj etc left ?
Because the project was so legit ?
And any older member here i guess majority now hero or legendary members know exectly how Quark scammed millions of $ out of belivers.And the same persons come back to Quark who scammed these million of $ and you wanna tell me i should promote that scam coin ?
I had a bigger amount of old Quarks and was told and even guaranteed that the scammers are gone and that the project is now under control of the small community and a 3rd party developing it.
Thats BS Max has till today the private keys of the blockchain and only he decides what will happen.
I call him a scammer who fucked thousands of people and you can forward him my adress anytime since i would love him to open a case against me to show after years of hiding his identity.

And to the rest of losers keep bitching it doesn't bother me at all.

And to the naive quark guy.If you know shit about the background of Quark i would recommend to sit calm.Your programer who was working on the masternode left angry and basicly did get fucked by Max.The masternode were ready all bugs eliminated and tested.Max refused to implement it and your programer is gone now.You are again just a scamcoin without a real programer or any serious update since 2012 with Max having full control over it.
But if you are so smart and claim there are no scammers then tell me who exectly is Max the so called inventor(cloner) of Quark who has full control about everything there?Who exectly is he ?


@Vod
The diffrence between me and you is i'm exposing real scammers where you are defaming people based on poor claims and power abuse.

But you can tell me when Quark was scamming thousands of people also from this forum were exectly were you or any other DT members ?
I have never seen you or any other DT member have ever attacked any big scam which was backed with established members !
The most helpful and inteligent minds of that forum have low amount of merit but its you punks who has majority of merit making and pushing it as badge where noone serious gives a shit about it.
Already your talking with Lauda and the rest of the group to force project owners to accept your own created rules or they get defamed (called in public as scammers) is something i would push you down immedently as forum owner.It clearly showed you used and intendend to abuse your DT status as weapon.
You clearly lost your connetion to the real world and your DT status made that you belive you can do anything without consequences which you will be proofen now to be wrong.

You know i also took myself the time checking all the threads you created on bitcointalk over the 7 years and i'm shocked how low quality they are.
Maybe you wanna show us 3 threads from your whole history which added any significant value to bitcointalk ?

You must focus on one issue at a time... do you really need another thing on your plate of empty promises.  ::)






...

You see your poor attacks are just causing a smile into my face.
But thanks that you pointed that out.

Bittrex instantly gave back access to my funds once they received a letter from a well known blockchain lawyer me and some other people hired which was recommened by a business partner who is dealing a lot with lawyers and blockchain in general.
I and some othere were lucky to be able to leave so early as we lived in a country which were clearly not in their banned country terms (which they updated after freezing accounts) .
However the other people mostly ukrainians,russians,saudi arabians or foreigners living in western countries (biggest account had $1.000.000 in USDT)  had to continue.
And yes you are right we had to prepay the lawyer and arbitrage cost for which everyone who participated paid into a wallet.

You wanna see proof of collecting funds for that arbitrage ?

... shouldn't this be implied?

Regardless, there may have actually been a legitimate case in that situation but I would like to see the proof, of course... and the proof would need to show there was actually a lawyer involved which you initiated - as you said you would.

The trademark image of you licking your boob with your purdy mouth is RUINED !

The mental image is something like this now.

https://topmenmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Lickasso-Tongue-Earned-Man-A-Spot-In-The-Record-Books.jpg

I don't think your reputation will ever recover from this.

Even I am traumatized by it. Will you start a class action for traumatized survivors ?

@Thule - your word is not worth the electrons that move it.

I've already posted my IP address for you - my email address is on my profile.  What else can Theymos provide you?

I'm glad you confirmed everything you needed from an anonymous person.  That will hold up in court for sure.

Bozo.   ;)

This is incoherent.

Did you say you'd promote Quark and get it on the reddit front page? Did that happen?
What work did you acutally do to justify keeping the Quarks sent to you in good faith.

Wouldn't returning the 10,000 Quarks (perhaps 1000 more!) be the right thing to do?

The what now?


So you took money to promote a scam and then decided to not promote it and kept the money. Have you told your lawyer about all this?

Scammer Thule,

It is now Thursday morning, and no one has busted down my door to arrest me for criminal libel.  :/

When can we expect an update from your imaginary lawyer?

Time for a "golden-oldie":

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2012/08/Michael-Jackson-Popcorn.gif

yeah, me too...

but now I'm like...

https://i.imgur.com/thUEahv.jpg

You're late, you grabbed your popcorn on the credits!
I was in my seat early! ;D

if you need some info about bolded ones, please send me a PM

Hey bozo - have you not read the thread?

Thule was an extortionist that tried to get us to remove negative trust under threat.

I called him on it on day ONE.  He continued for a couple weeks until he could not go anymore.

Now he is destined to hide in the shadows as a liar.

Wow asshole much chickenshit ;D

Do it publicly, make my day.

I'm not one of the bolded ones, so I guess I won't get the special treatment from Thule.  If said treatment included informing my coworkers that I did something naughty or out of line on the internet, well...let me just tell you I work in a place where no one got their job by being an angel.  They may hang up on you or may listen for a few seconds (or as long as it takes the amusement to become old) before hanging up on you. Either way you'll discover that my coworkers, and my boss, won't give two shits about some random internet person spouting nonsense about a fellow employee.   

I couldn't care less if I got doxxed here, as long as my SS# wasn't included, or banking info or the like.  It wouldn't be hard to do anyway, but everything I've heard so far is a bunch of empty threats by a bloated gas bag with a grudge against scam-busters.

He's a piece of excrement, as is 4x4et.  Eventually they'll give up and go away.

Be careful what you wish for.  :-*

I saw the most of the names that gave me fake feedback, I don't care about the rest of it.

Maybe fighting fire with fire isn't a bad approach, don't u think.

Fake feedback? That's what I would consider most of your feedback.

Never scammed anyone here, and you know it - but you don't care, cause what can 1 little guy do against giants of BitCoinTalk.

Alrighty.

You're pathetic even by the extremely low standards of intertubes tough guys. Git 'er done, dipshit.

Omg your harsh words are hurting me. I think Im gonna cry.  :(

It is not solely the actus reus that consolidates the guilt of the offender but the intent as well.

Yeah, you know my intent, cause you can read people's minds.

Thought police.

Yeah, that's a new one.

OK, can you explain your intent when you attempted to trade an irreversible currency for one that could be reversed?

(Just to be clear, I have not read your mind - I am giving you free will to explain what you did)

This guy does it all the fuckin time - for sums 20x larger than mine

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2881568.0

I offered the same conditions - I'm the bad guy

but nevermind, like there's gonna be some change of heart

i'm used to that red rep

Seriously, when are you going to splash your Red Paint ^TM on my trust wall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=131361)? I think I'm breaking out in a cold sweat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045649.msg49036437#msg49036437)... No... it's just Summer here in Oz (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR501.loop.shtml#skip)...

Just to clear everything up, I gave Thule my IP, my full name, my location, my ICQ number - everything he asked.  He threw around a lot of imaginary lawyer info, but in the end...

He did nothing - his word is worth nothing.

Now he is trying it again - LOL

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139852.msg50919134#msg50919134

I think he is bluffing in regards to taking legal action, but that doesn’t mean he is in the wrong. I think he is just trying to defend his reputation, which I don’t think is an unreasonable thing to do.

Also it is common for a lawyer to threaten to file a lawsuit they don’t ever file.

Stop posting for pay.  TF offered you 20btc to sue me - you claimed I was raping children.

You gave him an address, took the coin then basically said "I don't have children - I don't care". (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3095008.msg31952599)

You are a real gem to some community....   ::)

I think OP was in so much hurry during posting his thread. At least one thing is going to make "The pharmacist" happier that his name is not in the list. OP discover a new  name on his thread title,

The pharacist = The pharmacist  :)

Fortunately I have put him on ignore and thus won't be reading that post.  I assume from the comments here that he's threatening legal action for his own internally insane perceived offenses that have been committed against him.  That's a bunch of old smoke that's being blown up the asses of whoever reads anything he writes.  The only solution is to hit that good 'ol ignore button and never read his crap ever again.

I wish I could say I'm ecstatic about this, but the truth is that I'm completely indifferent.  This isn't the first time someone has threatened to bring lawyers into the fray and it won't be the last.  But that's all it is--a threat, and one designed to get a rise out of the intended victim(s).  I refuse to provide a reaction.