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Title: Begging for merit?
Post by: tuthienloc92bk on October 29, 2018, 10:50:07 AM
Is that an example of begging for merit? Please enlighten me. Thank you.


If you do not mind +1 Merin  ;D


http://archive.is/NXDcz


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: cryptovigi on October 29, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
Senior begging for merit haven't seen it yet...

But does he really beg or maybe rather suggests not sure if this is the same?

It's written "Do not beg for merit excessively." It's not excessively so it's rather "dishonorable" than prohibited...



Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: mocacinno on October 29, 2018, 10:57:10 AM
I think this one is a grey area... I don't think he should receive -ve, altough a neutral feedback warning him not to repeat this anymore *might* be borderline suitable?

It's not like the dude needs merit in order to spam the forum. His current rank (and signature space) are more than enough for most campaigns, bounties,... This, coupled with the fact he's not really straight up begging, might be enough not to clasify him as a "hardcore merit begger" but give him a warning instead?

This being said: i'm not saying that this behaviour is ok... I don't like the fact that people are using these subtile tacticts to hide pseudo-begging, but i don't know if it's an infraction that's serious enough to really do something about it...


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: tuthienloc92bk on October 29, 2018, 11:02:40 AM
Yes. But I have not tagged him or done anything yet. I see that he is a high rank member and I do not know why he did it.  Maybe he is not owner of this account. Anyway, I just want to know whether it is a begging for merit case?


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: morvillz7z on October 29, 2018, 11:08:32 AM
In all seriousness ;D, he is talking/asking for Merin not Merit.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: Jet Cash on October 29, 2018, 11:12:33 AM

It's not like the dude needs merit in order to spam the forum.

But the receipt of merit generates sMerits, and these can be used to promote alts and friends.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on October 29, 2018, 11:13:30 AM
Technically, he’s asking for Merin, not Merit.
A Merit according to the Urban Dictionary (see https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Merin) is “A rare female name derived from the Welsh language meaning white wave.”

Amongst other meanings:
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A rare female name derived from the Welsh language meaning white wave.
German variant of Maria, the Latin form of Mary, which is derived from the Hebrew Miryām (sea of bitterness, sea of sorrow). There is much debate over the meaning of the name, however. While "sea of bitterness or sorrow" seems to be the most probable, some sources give the alternative definitions of "rebellion," "wished-for child," and "mistress or lady of the sea."
Can be a derivative of Mercedes which means Mercy in Spanish.
Recently been given a new association with a woman being divalicious.
So if worst came to worst, it would not be trivial to state begging unequivocally.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: YOSHIE on October 29, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: mprep
7. No begging. [5]

[Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)




Quote from: hilariousandco
How do I receive merit?

You are awarded merit by people of the community if they find your post helpful or informative.

Code:
1 X 14 = 14 
2 X 14 = 28
3 X 14 = 42 --- Junior. Anggota (1,5 bulan)
4 X 14 = 56
5 X 14 = 70 --- Anggota (2,5 bulan)
6 X 14 = 84
7 X 14 = 98
8 X 14 = 112
9 X 14 = 126 --- Anggota Penuh (4,5 bulan)
10 X 14 = 140
11 X 14 = 154
12 X 14 = 168
13 X 14 = 182
14 X 14 = 196
15 X 14 = 210
16 X 14 = 224
17 X 14 = 238
18 X 14 = 252 --- Anggota Senior (8,5 bulan)
19 X 14 = 266
20 X 14 = 280
21 X 14 = 294
22 X 14 = 308
23 X 14 = 322
24 X 14 = 336
25 X 14 = 350
26 X 14 = 364
27 X 14 = 378
28 X 14 = 392
29 X 14 = 406
30 X 14 = 420
31 X 14 = 434
32 X 14 = 448
33 X 14 = 462
34 X 14 = 476
35 X 14 = 490 ---- Anggota Pahlawan (1,3 tahun)
36 X 14 = 504
37 X 14 = 518
38 X 14 = 532
39 X 14 = 546
40 X 14 = 560
41 X 14 = 574
42 X 14 = 588
43 X 14 = 602
44 X 14 = 616
45 X 14 = 630
46 X 14 = 644
47 X 14 = 658
48 X 14 = 672
49 X 14 = 686
50 X 14 = 700
51 X 14 = 714
52 X 14 = 728
53 X 14 = 742
54 X 14 = 756
55 X 14 = 770
56 X 14 = 784 --- Peringkat legendaris (2 tahun)

Is there a limit on how many merits I can send?

Yes. You can give a max of 50 merit to a user every 30 days.

Merit stats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats

Note: Please do not make useless 'thanks for the info' type posts in here as they will be removed, as will any questions that have already been answered or explained. If there's something that isn't clear or needs to be added then that's fine and I will add the details to the op as needed.

[Topic: FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0)



Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: jademaxsuy on October 29, 2018, 11:22:12 AM
In all seriousness ;D, he is talking/asking for Merin not Merit.
LOL, Yeah I have also this on my mind that he/she was not actually asking for merit instead he/she was only after for Merin. I was looking for the word Merin and this is what I got from wikipedia.org

https://i.imgur.com/yUizd0q.jpg

In urban Dictionary the word Merin was also pointing out to "A rare female name derived from the Welsh language meaning white wave"

Anyway, if you think OP that the thread was more like a merit begging then use the report button. This is a function of report button and one should exercise to use this function for the betterment of the forum.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: morvillz7z on October 29, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
He did get 2 merits for the exact same thread but written in Russian a few days ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055784.msg47186759#msg47186759

I like how he translated this:

К cтaти ecли бы нe эти измeнeниe был бы yжe нa paнг вышe  >:(

By the way, if not these changes would have been a rank higher than Angry


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: LoyceV on October 29, 2018, 11:47:58 AM
He did get 2 merits for the exact same thread but written in Russian a few days ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055784.msg47186759#msg47186759
I compared the first few sentences, and it's an exact copy from Google Translate. But as far as I can find, that's allowed, as it's not mentioned in the unofficial forum rules:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on October 29, 2018, 11:48:54 AM
I don’t think it warrants negative trust. Probably better just to tell him how fucking embarrassing it is to beg for Merit. In all likelihood he’ll stop doing it when he realises how pathetic people find it.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: Marshall14 on October 29, 2018, 01:15:41 PM
If it were to be a user with 0 merits then I could suppose he/she is begging for merits

But considering how many merits that user has racked up, probably it was simply a comical conclusion to the post..

I do not really know why it was done..
But the receipt of merit generates sMerits, and these can be used to promote alts and friends.
This is probably the most logical explanation IMHO


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: MainIbem on October 30, 2018, 04:50:18 AM
He did get 2 merits for the exact same thread but written in Russian a few days ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055784.msg47186759#msg47186759
I compared the first few sentences, and it's an exact copy from Google Translate. But as far as I can find, that's allowed, as it's not mentioned in the unofficial forum rules:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
This may be a classical case of the use of alibi. Exploring the loopholes in the provisions of the rules. Smart you might say.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: hilariousetc on October 30, 2018, 08:33:09 AM
I don’t think it warrants negative trust. Probably better just to tell him how fucking embarrassing it is to beg for Merit. In all likelihood he’ll stop doing it when he realises how pathetic people find it.

Do beggars on the street stop begging even though most people find it embarrassing and look down upon it? Some people just have no shame and all they care about is getting money (and let's be honest that's all this guy wants his merit for so he can move up a rank). Begging for merit is off topic for a start as well as unnecessary. If people like your post then they'll merit it. In fact, I'd be much more likely to not merit a post if I saw someone asking for it even if the post was deserving.  People who are begging or asking for merit should just be told to stop as a first line and most probably will, but if they continue then maybe negative is appropriate. If there's no repercussions for people continually begging or asking for it then it'll just become more commonplace.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: jqprez on October 30, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Yes. But I have not tagged him or done anything yet. I see that he is a high rank member and I do not know why he did it.  Maybe he is not owner of this account. Anyway, I just want to know whether it is a begging for merit case?
i have answered the same question but they have deleted my question...


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 30, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
I don’t think it warrants negative trust. Probably better just to tell him how fucking embarrassing it is to beg for Merit. In all likelihood he’ll stop doing it when he realises how pathetic people find it.

I believe DT has a clear stance on merit begging. They do not tag people for such attempts any more. Previously it was done and then they removed their tags and changed them to neutral.

Still non-DT can (and should) put a neutral trust on the person for begging for merits with the link as reference. Thats to make sure other people who visit their profile page know about the person's inherent nature when dealing with them.

I hope the person in question learns their mistake from this and mends their ways in future and read the forum rules before posting.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: LoyceV on October 30, 2018, 09:43:45 AM
I believe DT has a clear stance on merit begging. They do not tag people for such attempts any more. Previously it was done and then they removed their tags and changed them to neutral.
It's theymos who took a stance against tagging them. In general, don't worry too much about it :)
I've tagged 2 so far: one red, for a PM asking to buy my account or 800 Merit, and another neutral for PM-begging (with the option to remove it after he earns 12 Merit). The last one also received a temporary ban from hilariousandco for his PM begging.

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Still non-DT can (and should) put a neutral trust on the person for begging for merits with the link as reference. Thats to make sure other people who visit their profile page know about the person's inherent nature when dealing with them.
I don't really mind someone asking for Merit after a good post. It has the opposite effect on me and many others though: they don't get Merit. But it may also help activate some of the sMerit holders who never used it and don't really know what it is yet.

On Youtube it's totally normal to ask for "thumbs up", it's a very annoying habbit once you hear that 12 times per day. As long as the merit begging here isn't that bad, I don't mind. Unless it's by PM, those get reported to Admin instantly :D

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I hope the person in question learns their mistake from this and mends their ways in future and read the forum rules before posting.
There's this:
Do not beg for merit excessively.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: Jet Cash on October 30, 2018, 09:50:29 AM

On Youtube it's totally normal to ask for "thumbs up", it's a very annoying habbit once you hear that 12 times per day.

It has become so bad that I skip the start of those videos. I often quit if they do it mid-stream as well.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: electronicash on October 30, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
giving him a warning would probably fine, to me it isn't begging. but perhaps just a neutral to give him something to think about because he almost cross that thin line. give him the chance as he misspell it to "merin"  :D  if he translate the thread once again and post it to another local board, that would be another story.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: vlad230 on October 30, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
I don't understand why people are bothering with this shit... It's just merit. Find something more productive to invest your time into.

As theymos said it:

[...]
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.
[...]

So, he was aware when the system was implemented, that people will start begging for it which is tolerated but it shouldn't be something to really nag people about like sending PMs or being very insistent.


Title: Re: Begging for merit?
Post by: hilariousetc on October 30, 2018, 10:54:42 AM

On Youtube it's totally normal to ask for "thumbs up", it's a very annoying habbit once you hear that 12 times per day.

It has become so bad that I skip the start of those videos. I often quit if they do it mid-stream as well.

I think it's a little different on youtube as they rely on likes and subscribers to get boosted in the YouTube algorithm so their videos are shown to other users as recommended, but it is annoying and I don't know anyone who's gonna like a video or subscribe just because they're prompted. I hardly ever like videos and I'm only going to subscribe to a channel if I actually like their content and not just because they asked (I mean, who is actually going to subscribe to a channel they don't like), so it's futile asking from my perspective, and as I said above I'm also probably much more likely to not give them what they want if they annoyingly actually ask for it.

giving him a warning would probably fine, to me it isn't begging.

It kind of is. People used to do it with their address here but that's largely died out IE if you liked this post please consider donating and then provided their bitcoin addy.