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Website ->  BTCJUA.COM (http://btcjua.com/)
Telegram -> @btcjua (https://t.me/btcjua)

You are saying that one can pay with 0.01$, but that will not cover the transaction fee for transfering the bet, right? Moreover, isn't the best supposed to be at least a little over the transaction fee, since otherwise you're winning or losing essentially zero? Also, why are there no confirmation required? I mean, usually there should be some confirmations from the network, because otherwise how does your website even know that some amount of btc was transferred? Also, if the game provably fair and is there a script that processes the payments?
I'd love to test this website if you give me some dollars  ;)
Good luck to the project!

script does batch payments, so any small amount below 0.5 $ is help and processed as soon as collective amount of small bets is over 10$.
its doing with minimum fees + all transaction pushed together means very less of fees paid.  also this project uses child pays for parent method to boost low fees txn like with 1.1 sat fees with those paid 10 sat/bytes.
yes website waits for atleast 1 confirmation before sending the profit, for deposit there is no confirmation needed.

sure leave your btc address below

any referral campaign? Will you add another tokens like eth, ltc and etc?

Are still on chain gambling games able to mantain a decent performance, as often the mempool is clogged with high fees transactions?

not now, since we still on beta, why don't you join as a team and contribute towards work, we are happy to share profit
we are planning to opensource front end, to all users and so that we can be a platform on which other people developer there customized gaming.


ETH LTC have unsure futre, but we are thinking about lighting network implementation

Is this the gambling address of BTCJua.com - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/148k8xYVAtjWm59feTXJQw56nMFp24fYwy ?

May be you can check the one in my sig.

yes it is, you can genrate all our address from our xpub, on your bitcoin core

yes it is doing well and its almost instant

I just checked on the site, it is pretty simple game that you created there but what I saw is that there is nothing there except the only 4 huge bets with 0.3 btc as their max winner. What I do want to know is the limit that we can bet for a game and to have more recents bets so we would know that the site is having good traffic or not. This will give us some information too that your site do not some scam site

Btw I will try it later on when I am home, lets see how my luck going, will update it later

yes we have status features coming soon, means users will be see

daily big bets
monthly big bets
hourly big bets
automatic messaged signed payouts

and more

I am a bit confused about how the process is taking place. According to your website, 06f0c2abf8c10e8c0d3f3dc29e85b501015ae76df859608dfc6ca0cb34c852e1 is a Tx representing a lost bet. But, it is sent to 14WY1ECK3jQbKNQd52duWF6yJspM6rhkCB, instead of 148k8xYVAtjWm59feTXJQw56nMFp24fYwy. Why so?

yes this is why told you to import xpub, xpub generate new address for each bet, which makes us to send with low fees and not cluster trxns.

every time use a address, a new address is generated for next bet. you can give it a try with few cents and see it for yourself.


let me know if you still need clarification, thanks for your time friend

Ok. I get this part.

What is your hot wallet address? I mean from which address your winning payments are being made? This is not available on your website. But, players need to know this to be assured that you have enough balance to pay a BIG win.

Moreover, how do you calculate your house edge? OP says 0.8%, while your own signature claims it to be 0.5%.

Below is a quote from your site, which is confusing too...


So, the winning is 3X of 5X? And how exactly you derive the 33% chance of win?

well i think xpub address thing is complicated for average user player. Let me switch to something simple give me 10 minutes and let me know if you like this new method.

cause i just updated the site regrading your past comments, also the address is signature verified check in the main post.

Its good to have something like this updated on later on but why dont you fix and explain everything right through us here. I just send some of bitcoin on addressed that you mentioned before and when I tried to refresh it the address changes and even the multiplier change. How is this possible? So how to check if my bet is a winning bet or not? I cant never know this?

Address changed cause it was using xpub method, now its just using the signed message as rocketsingh wanted signed address. which is more secure & to be honest your reviews are helping here a lot, i am noting everything you guys are reporting and with each convo the site is becoming better & better

don't worry even if you did send the bet, the amount is reverted back to you ( i have safety algorithm ), please note corn job for refund runs every 3 hours. if you sent the fund dont worry it will be back there and when you get it please post back the transaction id here, just a confirmation.

trxn table shows your bet amount by the way and if its green column then its a win and it will show how much did you win !

I do not trust scripted sites that show you a stream of bets like that as soon as you visit the site:

https://i.imgur.com/iMT3Goom.jpg

you want me to believe that a new site without any history accepted bets of over 10 bitcoins during that one minute that I spent on the site?
it shows you the hash, suggesting that the bets can be verified and are real
are they?

yes sir, they are real transactions, but it was made by me to test this application. many of those transaction was made with the purpose of testing the application for any algorithmic problems.

I own the address and i signed the message so there is no question about realness. if its on blockchain its permanent and algorithmic.

Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today?

just click transaction link and find out, this address is being used by me for testing the app and yes

i signed the address => my address => got money on that address = my funds

The question is whether all these transactions taken place today? veleten asked if took place within a minute? I am asking if it happened today?

https://i.ibb.co/z5R0Z5v/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/thsWDhr)

most recent trxns

Do NOT try to dodge the question. The question is...

Are you claiming that 10 BTC has been transacted on your site today?

no its not, i just signed this address today ( as requested by users here). this address processed only one transaction today. if you want old transaction, please check xpub discussed with rocketsingh

also you can copy paste any transaction id into any blokchain explorer like blockchain.com or btc.com to find the more details about it, and if you want to check its fairness just use the script given on website or use the algorithm above.

btc.com / transaction you want to know about
 
thank you for your time, let me know if you have any issues

How can I even checked my bet if I already refreshed the site? There is no way that I can checked whether you already get my bet or not. Let assume that you got it,but if we cant check it then it seems like our coin is gone that instant. Last night I am sending 0.001btc and 0.002 btc just to try the site but it seems that I get nothing there




Hey veleten, if I can answer this question assume that we saw the same address, is that there is not current bet because I checked on their address and it seems that the address already past few days ago, I do not know if the time has been same for everyone of us here but it seems that way

when you make make payment of course site refreshes and loads your transaction, in old design each payment requires new address so if you make a maybe a new address will be generated, so accidentally sent money to same address twice, this is why i returned it.

here you go your (0.001 + 0.002) already returned 14 hour ago by automatic system.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f3bab01bae3207925a9ed7c1f79a7d292b93666d87002f84f06079cef3b0ac83


-------------------with last night update now address will not be generated new for each user, you all can use same address ------------------

enjoy the site

So you are saying that we cant send it on the same address more than once? Because it cant be processed? Last night I tried to send the btc and it wont refreshed and that is why I refreshed it by myself and yet I cant see my address again. Now I just send 0.001 btc again to try it for real, lets see how things going on. I will try not to refresh it until it gets confirmed

yup got it
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c4e6b8bbfb3e48b406ed4cf1c4122a312edf1d1076a60e91fafe599a9249fd27


https://i.ibb.co/bW0QLcz/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/1vg7KF8)

and you won, you rolled 10.88

https://i.ibb.co/CJ24PNR/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/GsTGHBz)


Todays Payout Executed :
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1c7160d45bb99fc0c2cf7bdabdddbb9409b029478f283dbd5af947bc55670e41

Congrats for winning 3X

biggest winner : 36jbdvfjUmpJ3uSsgnK4uzW9BJgCttEeZj
bet amount  : 0.01

You're aware that this doesn't make any sense? You need to use the block hash (that the transaction gets included in), not the "transaction hash" .. as the user can trivially grind transactions until they find a winner and propagate it. That's not nearly as easy to do with block hashes, as it involves throwing away a valid block (which is worth 12.5+ bitcoin).

yes finally a good mind, i was thinking about the same problem from last week !

was about to push this to new update this week, thanks to you i would have to do it right now lol.


let me any more suggestions

I just created a dust transaction to you to prove it works, but seems like you realize that. Please don't return the money, it was just to show you it's easy to abuse =)

i don't see the tranx, can you send me screenshot ?

yes this is why i was generating new address via xpub, but few people was not sure about that. so i had to resolve to simpler means. anyways i am pushing the update in next 10 minutes please do take a look and let me know.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/70b9053f46c42ac64db578364850c279fedebda332a498687f0d0cf12acca2b0/

I sent it with crazy low fees, so it didn't propagate very well. Was just a demo =)

still nothing here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Q6guSSuqqYmLgD1cN2cgKwXaoNVU2TKCr

are you sure you sent to correct address ?? i don't see it here

i guess its not added to blockchain mempool, anyways i did the update, let me know what you think

NEW UPDATE PUSHED - NEW VERIFICATION METHOD

I'm an idiot. I didn't do any testing, and my script sent money it to itself (whoops, wrong variable...  ;D)  Well, at least the transaction demonstrates that it was easy to create a transaction such that it's hash was a winner.

UPDATE : NEW ENGINE, ENJOY SECURE AND ANONYMOUS BETTING !

0.3 BTC WORTH OF BETS IN A WEEK  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Well I guess, this is just a beginners luck that I have there. Wondering if I can win it again there. Btw how do I verify my bet? The step is already on the site but I do not know how is this going to, may be some help might help me to verify this

Anyway about this abuse? What is the issue? Because I saw many of them may been trying to send many transactions on the same address, do yo think someone will spend this huge like 1 btc just to try it? There must be something leaked out to have this huge bet

yes new modern verifier is coming in next update, so all you have to do is click the hash and it will automatically verify your hash, and show you exactly how your roll was generated. meanwhile try you use present verifier.


 

0.074 BTC WON BY A USER TODAY

https://i.ibb.co/QvnVXRN/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/Kx7gmkq)

Please post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today.

Latest archive: http://archive.is/SLf9U

yea as soon as i hear from them, talk with btcevo and other members, i don't know if they want there address disclosed.
but anyways the biggest winner address will always be on the thread.

also the btcjua has blokchain.com tagged address, means any transaction coming and going from btcjua will show our site name.

https://i.ibb.co/Hq12T2X/Capture.png (https://imgbb.com/)

What? You claim to be running a blockchain based game. So, bets are supposed to be placed from addresses, not user names.

So, either your post winning address along with the transaction hashes, by which the winner received 0.074 BTC today, or you are clearly scamming.

lol i don't want to do that, neither i want you to use this red text, why don't you pm everyone who posted here and let them know you want to know the experience with site. you have no right to call me scammer without proof, if you or your friend sent any money please accuse me with the transaction hash of payment. WITH BIG RED LINES I WILL ANSWER ABOUT IT. without it if you are accusing me then clearly you are paid to demote other projects by some big gambling site.

if anyone who won and and want to accuse me of not received money, can post there transaction hash here and then i can answer to there accusations and i have already paid out many users as it can be seen on the forum. my bankroll is already -0.1 down which proofs that i am a legit services .

MEANWHILE HERE IS PROOF FOR LAST SESSION :

Input :
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf376f67287180ca39eedf468630af8b1cbdbd15e8fa7df1160972cdfb956e1e
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/68415e423c6106ca0fd92117d8ee3258234273a3d5e4876e14ba1333d07d3241
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/eb9ff00efc1c65124bf55220c55ba88dc66d51e0bebe43ddfe64272b151f037b
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/96bbc5891d72dcc16933c7470a00cf27ef6841ba5f0e69e9e19e2d67a1334d89
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1PmkhY5KxsKZr9uyPst13sdrcbKJoxpAef ( i think this one belongs to BTCEVO legendry trusted memeber of this forum, idk forsure why don't you pm him )


Payout (3x money sent to winners):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1c7160d45bb99fc0c2cf7bdabdddbb9409b029478f283dbd5af947bc55670e41

u r stupidest guy i seen online,

0.0251804 (bet amount) * 3 multiplier = 0.0755412


why don't you stop using red color or you will be deleted, to now you r just a concern guy who wants i exposes scam i respect that, but don't use red colored oversized post i have hard time managing this thread.

the next time you post some big red color text you will be deleted from this thread.

see i am done making some sense to you, you don't understand how site works, each session is forwarded to next day.

anyways long story sort, so i tell u just post a transaction hash and proof that you or your friend didn't got paid. then we can proceed with it with me being scammer or you becoming paranoid.

https://i.ibb.co/rwDkjgP/screencapture-btcjua-2018-11-30-06-09-54.png (https://ibb.co/pLY27gD)

NEW UI

MOBILE OPTIMIZED

@bitcoinfuck, @Johny Deep, i think you guys have some communication problems, specially Johny, you can't just show up and accusing people of scam, without any proof, furthermore you keep writing with really big and red characters... it seems your intention is purely to  taint the projects since days one... some people have play and win like Btcevo everything seems legit here,


The guys clearly state that they proceed to payout in bulk by 4am why can't you just wait before just claiming it's a "scam"  ? then wtf ? the project seems to be less than than 2 weeks old, so yeah you should expect devs testing(placing bets) with their own address to test betting system as bitcoinfuck disclose about it previously... Are they paying you to spread fud or what ? :-\

@bitcoinfuck maybe all this testing stuff should have been done on btc testnet... and just launch when project is fully ready then CI....

Btw nice UI.

I have a few questions :P

Message verified. But why sign a message from an address that held only low amounts (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1V3ncM1s6pDzk8hmTuexvdbkTwTpVN8qZ)?

Can you sign a message from an address holding >300 BTC to prove your bankroll? I find it hard to believe you own $1.2M, but can only pay $40 for a signature design (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195884.msg48360529#msg48360529).

Is this still available?

From a user's perspective, I'd say the house edge is 1%.

I'm not sure what this means exactly.

I would like to see a signed message from an address holding >10 BTC.

1> Well I Switched to this address and i am checking the stability of system, as lot of bugs can appear, and i don't want someone to find a vulnerability and empty my wallet, thus i process payments over 0.01 BTC manually.  

2> the address used before is my personal address and yes you can see the transaction on block chain, before the site had 10% win chance and 10X payout, so i did testing with 30 BTC withdraw from my exchange.

3> yes i can give you small 1-5$ to test, since you have positive trust ( not available for others any more)

4> house edge adjusted on page to avoid confusion ( 0.9% -> 1% ), thanks for pointing it out with user perceptive

5> regarding signed message, i will do it as soon as i have this website signature campaign running, already placed bid on bitcointalk advertisement space. right now don't want to withdraw from my exchange as i have orders on altcoin, not to mention i have 4 BTC reserved for BTCJUA.

regarding me paying 40$ for signature, i have to reduce cuts wherever possible, as i am already -0.1 BTC (approx) down on bankroll and btc is not doing well against USD either, also i have to pay users 1-5$ to test the site that means if they win i have to pay them 15$  

leave me your BTC address

Keeping your bankroll on an exchange to speculate on altcoins is a high risk business practice :o
I see your 30 BTC and 4 BTC claims, but without any proof it's hard to believe. My addy is in my profile, but wait until you've signed a message to prove your bankroll, as there's no point testing a service I don't trust.

Update: you can of course sign a message from the address that temporarily held 30 BTC during your test. As long as you sign it with the current date and your site name, it's enough proof for me.

see i manage my funds however i want, i claimed ownership of address with signature and all the incoming transaction belongs to me, why would i put back my funds from exchange to verify same thing which is on block-chain already, the blockchain is my proof just pick a address go its block explorer and see the funds sent and received. anyways OK what ever suits you, let me know if you need funds for testing or you can wait till my signature campaign ends and i have everything streamlined , i am thinking or making a panel to sign every payout.

i do not wish to convert my bitcoins back from altcoins, i have enoufh funds to keep this site working, if someone doesn't get his payout he can open a scam accusation, i am here to answer.

anyways thanks for your time and suggestion, i you want funds for testing please quote the address below, i need to make everything as open and transparent to my users as i can.

update : 30 BTC was win amount, at 5X Profit.   + it was during beta phase,  when i was using blokchain.com api, so i used to show whole transaction amount not the amount transacted. I Would like to keep my private exchange withdrawal address private, as most of them are vanity, don't want someone to google those address and link my profile to them. All you need to care about the how the site is working now. Cause you was not there when i rolled beta phase and now you simply just ask me to verify my old address which is completely isolated from BTCJUA.com RTM release.

We Are Our Of BETA.

BTCJUA VERSION 1.0 RELEASED

NEW UI
LIVE NOTIFICATIONS
DEPOSIT NOTIFICATION
BET VERIFICATION ( WITH CODE  8) )
FANCY INFOGRAPHICS
TELEGRAM GROUP
BULK TRANSACTION WITH CPFP ENABLED


https://i.ibb.co/wKvF35c/Capture.png (http://btcjua.com/)

my wallet address is: 33saKSWWsMUuD2CkEPofRdNVyuwFqMcRmF

can't do, due to your negative rep. please understand

again, I am not sure why haven't you changed the way the transactions are displayed with your UI update

https://i.imgur.com/Jb1A8yxh.jpg

this is how it is done at the moment, i.e. when you open the site there is a constant flow of transactions
this makes a user feel like it is occurring real time and the site is accepting huge bets every second
the same practice that you have been using to show 100 btc etc. wins
I do not want to check all the txid , but I'm pretty sure your game is not popular enough to be seeing 0.03 , 0.017 0.07 bitcoin transactions in a matter of seconds
continuously for several minutes, to me this is misleading and borderline scammy

YES TILL IMPROVING BRO, SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW BITCOINTALK DEVELOPER, I DIDN'T HIRED SOME TEAM


WINNERS THIS ROUND :

https://i.ibb.co/jJP9k7S/Capture.png (https://btcjua.com)


;D ;D ;D ;D GUY YOU  ROBBING ME LOL

my btc Btcjua.com address   1V3ncM1s6pDzk8hmTuexvdbkTwTpVN8qZ

WINNERS PAID (02 DEC 10 PM APPROX):
PAID : 0.0212 BTC


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/894e23af422b14ba1948af7fa5da305434b6a915dcddfa31b0855fdc64a31c4a



https://i.ibb.co/jJP9k7S/Capture.png (https://btcjua.com)

your free 5$ request rejected due to negative trust on your profile.

WINNERS PAID (02 DEC 11.58 PM APPROX):
AMOUNT : 0.06 Btc approx

thats 0.06 BTC won since last payout done less then 2 hour ago

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d5b50ca3969a9a2808fec1a17e2ad924439aab5c465d63274140a169b72de77d

https://i.ibb.co/ccmSwNv/Capture.png (https://btcjua.com)

Great Website Trusted %100 Tested

but payout slow 2-3 hour take i hope in future 1- hour and less

otherwise Website %100 Pure

Bankroll = not your money

That's the same as if someone having a bakery told you that the $ in his cash register were his money.

Bankroll is the potential money of the players... So yeah it concerns them.

Keeping the bankroll in exchange is probably the worst thing you can do... Right after web wallet. Why not using an electrum address on a clean computer you don't use?

i was talking about exchange, read the message, if bankroll is insufficient then i told i will fund it by exchange. and bankroll is enough for payments.

not to mentioned that everyone who won do got paid, without any problems .

Wait... You fund the bankroll?

What is the current bankroll? Oo

yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

yes that the current bankroll, but it will grown when i grow full security of the project.
i am thinking to grow bankroll, till now the largest bet on my site is 0.01 btc and regarding trust i do put out lots of payouts and no problems arise.

also don't think of BTCJUA as a gambling game, its more like a lottery.

Lottery = Gambling

Betting money to earn money, so i dont know why need to differentiate. Your bankroll is indeed small for a gambling site specially you are just starting up.
Being optimistic on bankroll growth isnt bad but it would really need some effort and really takes time depending on how you do perform into this market.

some are having even less than that ,so 0.65 bitcoins is not something unusual for an upstart
but there are many questionable business decisions as well as the points I mentioned above ( transaction results spam as soon as you load the site)
that makes me not want to gamble here at all, maybe if only given free bonus to test :)
it is risky for the owner , yes if a player or many players get lucky, he could go bust in a matter of hours

thanks for pointing out friend, i really loved how you explained, but bankroll is low due to the fact website is new and i am worried that someone may spam payout system and take my bitcocins, this is why i want to perfect the system before putting big BTC.

sure leave me your bitcoin address below, and let me know how things go and what i should improve.

Risk of abuse or exploit would be there thats why having a gambling business would always matter on how good the security would be.Polish it before going live
and bankroll management is important.I understand that you are on a test phase but if you are confident enough i dont think you should really worry about exploits.

leave me your address, i send a dollar so you can test the site.

ok, here is my addy:  1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv
will send with minimal fee too, hope it won't take ages to confirm

sent, try it out

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv

tried it out:
https://btc.com/4a940301c215be2e9112a4feac321ddbee01874894b1b9b49532955e1de101d3
probably lost :)
no way to sort bets by date, no way to look into your past bets
the only way I was able to tell if I lost or not was Fairness verify tab: https://jsfiddle.net/m04dpva1/
all in all , thanks for the owner for a chance to test the site
not my kind of game, but maybe with some improvements, this site could find its audience

what went wrong, i think you loaded the page at the same moment i pushed an UI update to app, this is why you was not able to see your bet.

here you bet shows,
https://btc.com/4a940301c215be2e9112a4feac321ddbee01874894b1b9b49532955e1de101d3

https://i.ibb.co/vxzqwDL/4.png (https://ibb.co/27Khn5c)

Where is your bankroll?

Signed address from OP shows only 0.004 BTC. Can you sign message from address where your funds are to prove that you are solvent?

This was posted 3 hours ago, it is more than enough time to sign message. I see you are online so it won't be hard to sign message in next 10 minutes.

I won't accept "soon" as an answer as you allowed deposits.

right now its in my exchange wallet, i use exchange api for withdraw at the moment as i ditched running full node.
coming soon = next update. [ this is why i specially mentioned it ] i need to integrate full node that would take some time. i been working on this non stop till last 10 days. ill see how much faster i can psuh, but since mobile ui update took me 2-3 days, i guess you all have to wait.

Bankroll will be shown on website itself, after the update, then i will entertain your request meanwhile wait for the update.

if current bankroll is low, it will be refilled by system, as you can see in history i already paid payouts. if you feel unsecure about it please don't bet until, i post an update here


AND MY FAV LINE :
post your transaction hash, if you didn't get paid.  simple plain and smooth

Please can you explain how we can differenciate a losing bet from an unpaid winning one ?
It seems very difficult to track our bets since it scrolls very fast on your site. There is no timestamp whatsoever to make it easier to locate the bets.

How can we make sure our txid is winning or losing before making a claim ?

EDIT :

Okay, got it. When you refresh the website, it scrolls the last 1000 bets made. Then it stops scrolling.
This is why it may seem as "faked volume".

The roll number is calculated with the block hash. Interesting game.

However there is really a need for more proof regarding your bankroll since you accept bets.

1> game auto refresh when users places the bets, as soon as a deposit is detected game refreshes and waits for deposit to confirm.

if you can find you bet is can be easily searched using block number or transaction hash of your bets

2> yes wanted to provide fairness on blockchain, also coming bets and on going bets gives fees to bitcoin miners.

3> well i am working on it, since for now i simply used bittrex api to do automatic withdraw to casino address, i am currently working on having this game on bitcoin core, as soon as its done everything will be streamlined !!


THANKS FOR YOUR TIME

I think you should display all the last bets at once, because how it is now seems like there is a lot of bets exactly at the time we arrive on the website.
This gives a feeling like you are posting fake bets.

Best of luck with your website but yes, please provide proof of bankroll ASAP. :)

I do not know how they fake it or not, but everytime I generate new address to make some deposit there is always others that play and make a huge deposit like 0.5++ btc but when I tried to check the transaction, it has already been made past few days ago so what is the point of having it keeping pop out again

But he already signed message on the first place,so there will be no big problem anymore

lot of things updated, since your last visit, try it now !
there are no new address generated anymore, everything is perfectly streamlined and verifiable on blockchain itself.

there is now only 1 address and UI is improved too, and in few days the site will have its own bitcoin node.

Apparently owner of this address(Player) 1FwKFv4nBkFNUo5Lga3uTwEzxcnParzMcj made some profit.

https://i.imgur.com/fTOQsKF.png

Address is empty:

https://btc.com/1FwKFv4nBkFNUo5Lga3uTwEzxcnParzMcj
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FwKFv4nBkFNUo5Lga3uTwEzxcnParzMcj

However, address received one deposit from BTCJUA and only 5 minutes later funds went to BTCJUA:

https://i.imgur.com/Uv8fSxB.png

Reward has never been sent back to this address, and it was 5 days ago. Looks like someone is faking deposits and players.

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First of all, addresses 1FSLnd4CCrRQsnRvF1ZXGSdc5xHC4kTa3c and 19pEdqxT7Gyys9bWVBaoEACjzcNrLCj6jX are part of the same wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/028ef9d4f64ed860/addresses and:


1AMJTxvA6zWnyf7Lv8TuwMu4hNqEUbT9Wd and 1MSe2GZYnocHu6aLkiAVSGVzXWbLm4u7XQ are also part of the same wallet.

Part of wallet --> https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19pEdqxT7Gyys9bWVBaoEACjzcNrLCj6jX
Received funds from(marked green):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/15YCTx6FoFq2h8zWJF9qBstwHyqPbuaDyC
Received funds from(marked green):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MaCPnDHy8rP7o3VkfkG2ih9XeDz4HvbFM
Received funds from(marked green):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1B8VDY7qRDYtqwMSPfSYMQijY9SyMye6Lp
Received funds from(marked green):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13R4DP2YBJWPUBGuGSgmJN7Z1vEsGxx33B
Received funds from(marked green):
Part of wallet --> https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FSLnd4CCrRQsnRvF1ZXGSdc5xHC4kTa3c


part of the wallet --> https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19pEdqxT7Gyys9bWVBaoEACjzcNrLCj6jX
Funds went to btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MSe2GZYnocHu6aLkiAVSGVzXWbLm4u7XQ
To btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1SSzzDDjehNGakYhPoDnXDRwcUoUqjQuu
To btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Gm3SUvEB8KpFsq6EXoi4weah3cCemhXPK
To btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17eYxRK8YAzciY99vRLKR1u1WZZPNxAsBB
To btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19nFrxZQzZjmVLQQAo4118xFDnkNSvwkbb
To btcjua and:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DiVPVSEtc3UV9W5bRKXuquMvsKW9F2q88

Many transactions looks like this:
https://i.imgur.com/U3kCsjO.png

Any logical explanation?

THIS IS WHY BTCJUA IS ANONYMOUS, THERE ARE NO USERS JUST ADDRESS, NO COUNTRY BORDERS EVERYTHING IS OUT AND PROCEEDED.

not to mention that i gave btc to users for testing, so that would result in

btcjua -> address of tester
address of tester -> btcjua

+ Don't forget btc works differently then ETH, btc uses change address , also lot of users play regularly so if they send

1 btc -> btcjua 0.1 btc
         -> change address 0.9 btc

[ so they placed bet for 0.1btc ] and 0.9 btc went to there btc wallet, so the next time they gonna play the deposit will come from same change address.


this is why you see address, Can you sign message from a address and let me know from which address you need the help ? cause that lot of address and lot of ins and outs and i don't have track of everything since everything is open on blockchain.

Just Sign a message and i can take time to explain that transaction, no problems !

Where can we find user who tested this game using this address 1FwKFv4nBkFNUo5Lga3uTwEzxcnParzMcj, won and didn't receive funds?

Excuse me, but if I deposit from address A and win, reward should be sent back to address A. Not to address B or address C:

https://i.imgur.com/z2h7CyY.png


https://i.imgur.com/fdvWGbo.png

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What is this:

https://i.imgur.com/C8GUlI9.png

More testers?

https://btc.com/351unhQnjwmStBjTPSBd4irM9zMY8RBiNV
https://btc.com/3PM6DPKerEsTNh9a6PLZrpByWFExZ8qAUg
https://btc.com/385x1rmezTJXLXXQSZJjXfS5HFx1LzcLJd
https://btc.com/3Qqw5szcez3oQj694s2HQ9dyu4NLToqJvM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3KqYyLqJnSJpA1SJRaDirKFQyUKrtNkPHe --> I don't see this address got payed

So if I deposit from my address where will I receive funds? To unknown address? Where?

yes you got it right, if you play from A then it get paid back to address A.


https://i.ibb.co/RS0CVkz/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/W3ycY4g)

the address you see was funded was us, so it could be one of change address generated by our old engine which used change address and amount split techniques to minimize fees, also keep in mind that if someone wins biggers then current play address then withraw is pulled from bittrex exchange and that BTC is sent to winner. [ thus 3KqYyLqJnSJpA1SJRaDirKFQyUKrtNkPHe  belongs to exchange api that maintains the payout, not sure or it could be our change address, can't say for sure as we do not keep any data about our players part of anonymity]
 

or that could be input transaction from exchange, wait for update API will filter out those transaction from list.
just wait till i integrate bitcoin core, so there would be no inputs from known sources.

here i am taking time to explain you, try to understand.

1> javascripts renders UI and data on your browser
2> Api doesn't work well with segwit address, all exchange deposits are hidden by default, but sometimes it displays on the betting page like the example below.

https://i.ibb.co/yqBF22P/1.png (https://ibb.co/Rc4T88b)
https://i.ibb.co/825tcbV/2.png (https://ibb.co/QnNtdkG)

3> when an error occurs api doesn't filter out exchange input by default

the betting page is buggy due to this transaction, this is why you are seeing some extra bets, which was supposed to not to been shown [ JUST LIKE OUTPUT TRANSACTION ARE NOT SHOWN]
http://btc.com/bbb88e10465c88327f08ceddcb70aa442dce6998c05be0c5685fe2d8b9f25dd5

4> also don't forget that the data is cached for performance, so lots of transaction are getting repeated, once segwit data is loaded, the transaction with was suppose to hide is shown and random next transaction goes hidden.

https://i.ibb.co/9csx46Y/3.png (https://ibb.co/0mh09TJ)
https://i.ibb.co/GPfd6rP/6.png (https://imgbb.com/)

I KNOW YOU Won't understand technical so PUT IT THIS WAY
1> my project is new, i can have me and my friends test the site for transaction fees analysis, none of your business !! there is no rule that i can't play on my site, how will i know about performance of website without making transaction myself ? if i want i can play game myself for testing purpose, since i m the owner i don't need to be paid.



SO CAN YOU BE REASONABLE FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE AND CONSIDER A BUG AS A BUG, NOT SOME FAKE BETS. YOU ARE SIMPLY SEEING ALL TRANSACTIONS DUE TO SOME GUY USED bc.... address for playing and my basic site didn't had a way to work with that.

i know this is happened and ever since i came to know, i stopped on promoting site and started working on a solution but you guys won't stop, also check updated rules of the thread before posting .

Quoted for record and post archived http://archive.is/HgL9e

I'll rephrase:

Out of 1000 bets showed on your site, how many bets are "real" bets from players, not your "fwiends", you or for testing purposes?

ill rephase

count the number of bet's,  its not reached 1000 yet, this shows that you are just gere to increase the post count. you have no idea about website dude you even guessed the number wrong lol.

all bets are real, but due to bug its including change address and inputs, as i explained above.

there is not bet's placed by me, all the testing was done on old address. so unless you sign a message from a address i can't waste anymore time with you

And I posted on previous page lots of things.
Sorry, not 1000, my mistake. How many bets are yours and how many bets are from real players?
Yes, that is what I have been doing on this forum. Not reading anything and counting my posts.

In meantime:

https://i.imgur.com/cA3yN4r.png

https://i.imgur.com/fhYyWqQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/lNG0rO1.png

Player under number (or address) https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3J5GdNpdTviQPgub8eAmnuk9okB2TjqiN4 has to wonder why they didn't receive funds.


They are sitting quietly in small and dark room waiting for their anonymously placed bet to get funded by automated exchange system. (post archived http://archive.is/Tfhj0)

i myself gave example of that address dude read above quoted post.

Sorry again, I forget that this is your address presented to public as bet because of a bug showing your transactions as bets placed by players.  ::)

What is your bankroll again before(if) I place bet and can you sing message which I have been waiting for several days?

1> thanks for taking time to understand, much better !



2> current bankroll is 10.004 btc for now, if you place bet and you didn't get paid, then please open scam accusation with your transaction ID, i am here to answer that.


QUOTE THIS IF YOU DIDN'T GET PAID !

https://i.ibb.co/xYcbDJG/k.png (https://ibb.co/PMbyNw4)

no problems,happens with most of us, i got what you was trying to say, thanks for suggestion, someone could have brute the system thanks again !

kindly test site further and let me know if you need funds for testing !

UPDATE : 18 DEC 2018

All nonsense posts are being deleted, achieve till now : http://archive.fo/nJR0S [ for reference of all talks till now ]

I will try this, but you should have a status page on your website showing all the status about bets, also there should be a way to pull out all bets by a bitcoin address.

nice idea, i will try to implement that.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ba71287b1dabe566f04fdb997fe90394726651c4dd450f0c0c6e2fe5a6e98818


 i think i won, how long till payout ?

Legitimate Site Got Payout, I will place more bets and provide more information.

i think these all are your bets, next time, please allow some time between bets it will process your payout faster, as when you bet after each block the software takes time and process payout together:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e29c91599d981db7582f497d96a779f2d8bc7e7818a34af78f512b5b526bb231

https://i.ibb.co/ZLbFr5c/Capture.png (https://btcjua.com)

NEW VANITY ADDRESS ADDED 1BTCJUA1qs58og5jha6n6tXjrospePdwiv

CHANGELOG :
removed old address
added vanity address
easily verify bets
easily track input and output payments

okay looks better now, but why don't you use segwit address ? that would make it fast for players and you, by cutting your fees upto 40%, this would help you in long run !

I just back and saw this after some time and yes you already make a bot towards your game? Or this is only for you to verify that the results is provably fair? But I can see that it is one pf a good process towards the game. And I even saw there is so many disucssuion there, do you even get a conclusion about it? Seems like this is most likely to be to good to be true things

yes telegram bot can

-help you place bets
-bet verify
-provide details about last payout
- smart AI
[ so you can just input a btc transaction and it would automatically post results]
-takes command as telegram commands + Human chatbot

try it - telegram @btcjua

okay, but there should be notification on blockchain transaction confirmation.

also it would be cool to have daily status on bot

NEW UPDATE : BTCJUA holds no database, no cache, web app is deployed when users visits them, and deleted when users leave. 

  Hey Btcjua I played your game and won. I havent received pay is this a scam? I want my pay. My transaction id 908166516ed3ae0dfc6f0999c9380d28708c58c1abb2df32875df5c20e8a0b33
 Please send me my win, it isnt that much saying you have 10btc for your site. I would suggest no one play until he send the money.

There is a pop-up message on the site saying that they are making an update and may make a delay on payout. So maybe you need to be patient and wait till they finish the update. Contact the owner on telegram if you want to make sure about your bet.

yes you accidentally deposited to a test wallet, no prob transaction been reverted to you.

input
https://btc.com/908166516ed3ae0dfc6f0999c9380d28708c58c1abb2df32875df5c20e8a0b33

output
https://btc.com/908166516ed3ae0dfc6f0999c9380d28708c58c1abb2df32875df5c20e8a0b33

 Hey Btcjua I play again and did not receive my win. Does your website have error? My win was .00098 never received, its on your site. Please send it.

as i checked all payouts are done ! can you post transaction id ? so i can help you

---update got it----------------
input bet
https://btc.com/f64cff441b72b3c5f40d08b09773649bf5516e0799a480136fd69360584d4116

output payout 2X
https://btc.com/fee401c144367381fee2b9f589ab3526a0502afbf64ee8c359b73dae6a3dcf4e

On-chain gambling websites are usually using altcoins now since the usage on those are far less than on bitcoin's blockchain. When the Lightning Network gets adopted enough we'll see many more of those "on-chain" gambling websites. You'll be able to withdraw/deposit instantly on the LN. Till it happens, use altcoins.

When a coin becomes big enough, using on-chain for every shit transaction makes it unusable. We saw it with bitcoin and then Ethereum (remember crypto kitties)

lightning network will take long for adoption, right now onchain betting do not have any problem !

bump for new Ui and popup library added