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Permanently banned means everything, you're banned forever. And ban appeals are never looked into as it's doesn't worth since 99.999% people have been banned accordingly to the forum's rules. Don't know why you got banned but pretty sure the reason is valid though and sorry to disappoint you but You have no chance to get your account unbanned.

If you got an Perma ban your account is banned forever and you are not allowed anymore to post in the Forum !

Also you are not allowed to post anywhere else with your new account as only in this thread !

I guess you got banned for Spamming or plagiarism  , but i think if i look at your post history it was spamming !

But to know it realy you have to wait for an Global Moderator to get the right answer or the User that reported you !

I have got my account banned
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Link to my previous account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1477559

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Thank team 4New

hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

Firstly thanks for letting me know he is a Global moderator.
Secondly, Sir have you ever gone through my profile before directly stating that? If not I request you to please go through it once. Check all my recent post to cross check if I am actually a spammer.

Which user according to you got banned for the post done more then 6 months before?

Please, read my post again. Where exactly did I say that you are a spammer?

All I said was: YOU BROKE THE RULES, SO NOW YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. You don't choose which consequences you will face - thus it doesn't matter if you think a single offense from X months ago isn't worth a ban. The mod, the one with the authority in this forum, said that you will remain banned, so you will. End of the story. Cry all you want, but nothing will change, nor you will get a second chance.

but I feel there should be something they need to work on..

It says the reason in the ban now. You were probably banned for spam or plagiarism, and in this case that's true:




You can't. This is like getting fired from a workplace and asking "but how will I do my work".

Dude, the problem isn't with the moderators or with the forum.  The problem is with you.  You broke the rules, and everyone in this thread is telling you what the consequences are for doing that, and they're correct.  You're permabanned.  It doesn't matter what your other posts are or how long you've been here; you got busted for plagiarism and that's it.  It doesn't matter what you think about the rules--they're applied the same to everyone, and as far as a warning goes, if you'd bothered to actually read the rules there would be no warning or clarification necessary.

Where's the bingo card, anyway?

edit.. I think since it is a fairly recent account it is pointless to contest it really. Nobody will probably be willing to see if there are more instances and he probably does not have the funds to pay any person to scan it over to find out.  Even then there has been no perm ban over turned yet... even legends so seems a long road to nowhere. Once all typing the same nonsense over and over in airdrops was allowed but it has been banned for a while i guess. To me it unfortunate to lose your account over that one instance. If i knew for sure it was just that one time I would let you off with a temp ban and even a merit reduction but I don't have any control over it.

Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)

And a lot of people are too lazy to even write original spam. Many people copy posts from the same page because they often think they can get away with it and their posts will get lost in the spam and buried quickly by ages of the same. I can't say whether this is an isolated incident but feel free to go through his posts to see if there's more or not. There usually is but staff have better things to do than go through an entire posting history to see how many posts they've copied and that's why it's a one strike and you're out. If people don't want their accounts banned then they should make sure they're posting original content and not lazy spam.


Unless the rules change then in 99.9% of cases a permaban is a permanent ban.


Ban evasion is neither checked for nor enforced so make of that what you will.

I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?

2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 

People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.

dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

...Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts...

The forum rules are actually very lenient and not as stringent as it maybe should be, considering the influx of spammers and bots. But the issue of pliagarism is a perculiar case, and there is no second chance, or reprieve, especially when the violation was made in a bid to get a reward. Theymos already discussed this issue;


There is no hope of getting your account back.
And new accounts created by you and posting outside this thread would be tagged for Ban evasion and banned as well.
You can still read and learn from the forum

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker

Plagiarism is surely a big offense but I did that in case for an Airdrop purpose, just to qualify for that airdrop(which is never received anyway)
It was nothing to pass on other work as mine that would affect that persons prestige or degrades his member quality.

And with no hope to get account back there should atleast be another way for offenders doing such things rarely. Its like I have done a crime of killing someone where the only decision is I have to Hang myself and nothing could be done :(

As someone who is regularly busting plagiarizers, if you know of a checker that is super accurate and can check tons of posts at once, please let me know.

My experience of online checkers is that they accept 500-1000 words at once, their accuracy is sporadic at best, they are easily fooled by a couple of changed characters, words, or punctuation, and you have to complete 10 captchas for each search. Now, I appreciate I am talking about free checkers here and you may be envisioning using a paid service, but the limitations are the same. Lots of plagiarism will only be found through manual checking to identify text-spinning or changed words as well as posts that have been run through an auto-translator. There is simply not enough time or energy to manually review hundreds or thousands of posts per case.

friend I do agree on my mistake and really feel sad for that also. But if you count one post in 400-500 post dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

I know you guys as a moderators have a pretty tough job to keep forum clean and taking such decision helps you to reach final outcome faster and easier but sometime a regular forum poster losses much with that single decision.

People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New