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Unless you’re Spencer Bogart, most people would agree that 2018 has been a dismal year for crypto–even if they don’t say it on their Twitter feeds. If you want to sum up the year in four words, you could try using these: ICOs and Ethereum are dead.

Forums, Telegram groups, Slack chats, there’s no shortage of predictions for Ethereum’s collapse, ICOs futures, FUD, and personal nagging fears about ending up in a dumpster. But, beyond the gossip and speculation, what do the industry insiders have to say?

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Not dead but dying off and showing the real value of everything that was created. But now we hope that we will be able to attract even more investors and expand the market by increasing capitalization.

Only those who believe that eth will go down. Would you believe any single accusation that eth will soon be dead? Unless youre not a true enthusiast. Eth has a lot of shortcoming this year but it doesnt mean of dying. You know for a fact that eth is the pioneer of smart contract which are widely utilized now and Im sure their new update will be much more an upgrade to new eth network features.

Ethereum si not dead. It was adopted by hundreds of projects and attracted lots of developers. It is not in a good shape now but it is definitely not going to die.

100%! 2018 for cryptocurrency was on the verge of extinction, and with such an indicator, it seems we are entering in 2019! Unfortunately, it is so and we are forced to accept this!

Ethereum isn't dead, and neither are ICOs. Remember that however it may seem, we are still in the early days of crypto. If we believe that this will be a truly transformative technology that will make profound and widespread changes to how economies and societies function, then this requires mainstream adoption - and we are nowhere near that point.
I think it's called price discovery. Everything at the moment is based on speculation; there is no concrete value that can be attributed to coins, and no physical assets. And so we have price volatility. Last year we went up, this year down. Things will continue to be volatile as crypto matures, but I still believe the long-term trend is upwards.
ETH is the biggest and best smart contract system out there. ICOs are not as feverishly oversold as was the case last year, but good projects are still coming along, and people are still buying in... even if less than last year.

Ethereum isn't dead but ICO is about to.

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But as the market goes up again, this will give the idea to every ICO that there's going to be a big pump for these too on 2019.

I doubt ETH will die anytime soon, and ICOs will just change format in STOs.

Thankfully more and more projects will start building on alternative platforms (NEO, VET, Waves...) But remember that most of it is still on the ERC-20

ETH is definitely not dying anytime soon, we are just still in the early days, just like most projects like Vechain, LEDU, Storm are steadily building out their projects.

ICOs aren't dead. There will be another ICO boom when the next bull market comes around. Right now they're struggling because there's very little new money in the market. ETH isn't dead either but it could be replaced in the next year or two by one of many looking to usurp it.

we cannot lie and the 4 words you say are facts of the situation that is happening right now. I am personally starting to worry about problems that occur in the ethereum ecosystem, but I am confused why there are still many projects or developers that remain in the ethereum platform? do they think ethereum can recover? why don't they move into other platforms?

maybe wavesplatform will be the next ICO producer after ethereum
New Addition to Waves Ecosystem, Vostok Project, Secures $120 Million in First Investment Round
check this out :https://blog.wavesplatform.com/new-addition-to-waves-ecosystem-d9aec7e1d8c3
regards

Haha, you are completely wrong. Dead doesnt mean that if price goes down, that coin amd startup projects are dead. They are active, more and more better and also soon you will see the price progress.

Actually, ICO is dying because the market condition, it is simple, how ICO will raise money without new fresh money coming in! As to Ethereum out of all coins that have been suffering why Ethereum is the only one we point to and say dead! I really that people should start to separate between Ethereum itself as a coin and the ICO running on it is like when someone writes a bad contract people blame Ethereum itself and they forget that Ethereum have nothing to do with this and it is the fault of the person who wrote that contract. Anyway, I think Ethereum will surprise us in 2019, we will see.

To call ico and ethereum death is very exaggerated in my view. Ethereum is still producing blocks and transacting transactions. Icos still exists, even if there are only a few. That is why i would not call both dead.

OK am I the only one here who saw that OP used 5 words and not 4? Or have I lost the ability to count in crypto? But anyway, ICOs already started to die in 2017, we just didn't realize it at the time because everyone was blinded by the money and price. Ethereum dead? Come on, it's still doing better than tons of other alts (and I'm not even an Ethereum fan).

My 2018 in four words: "Didn't See THAT Coming!"

i wouldn't yet call it dead, ethereum and the ICO hype together have been like a behemoth at some point in 2017 and that gigantic mess is not going to collapse overnight since there is millions of dollars of thousands of people is involved most of them the whales who created this coin.

but this has been the downward spiral to the depth of hell for it with all the problems that this platform has and all the ICO scams that happened on top of it.

2018 in 4 Words – ICOs and Ethereum Are Dead .... That are actually five words  ;D

Now seriously. I don't think Ethereum is dead at all. Wasn't there a news a couple of weeks ago that Ethereum is amongst the top 5 of the fastes growing open source projects on Github? That's not how a dead project looks like.

When it comes to ICO I am with you. I guess the great time for unregistered token sales is over, we will probably see more STOs in the future.

ICO depends a lot on ETH and investors always choose good time to invest in good projects because if the right time, the profit will be easier for everyone. I believe that ETH will always survive and become the leading coin in the future

And the author lost his credibility when he can't even count the total words on the tittle.

ICOs market was following the trend when we are seeing the bearish trend and most people will try to hold themselves to invest in the ico.

Bitcoin becomes the main key in the whole of crypto.

It's normal in cryptocurrency people will make a exaggerated news to distract or create FUD on readers mind. If you know the volatility of cryptocurrency and the competition then this all about prices drama to attract more money on their pocket.   

2018 is not a good year for almost all bitcoin & altcoin holders who have bought when it's on peak at Dec 17. We all know the price keep decreasing from month to month and on this last month of 2018, but now we started to recover from deep valley when bitcoin was worth $3200 and ETH even dropped to $80.

Yes, I also saw that, the crypto world was under constant pressure. But I think saying that Ethereum and ICO are dead is too much, and maybe the right word is dying. Indeed, 2018 is a year full of panic and even despair because the market is getting worse, but is this really what we all want? I don't think by spreading more bad news it will help the market recover.

Every crypto is down for the year so you can't just single out Ethereum.  Ethereum is far from dead, over 2 billion dollars in daily volume and Eth network has the most developers by far.  Maybe calm down with your fud and actually access the situation correctly.  There are still ICOs that are reaching their cap goals as well.

I agree with you ICO is dead, but for ETH it has not died yet. ETH will not die so easily. The current collapse is temporary and you will soon see ETH go up after hark fork in January

I think it is very excessive if you think ethereum is dead, because I believe that ethereum has many advantages and is used by many people so that it has a bright future.
even though many ICO projects fail, it does not mean that the time is over, but we must be smart in choosing between the best and most potential ICOs.

Lmaoo, why do you get this conclusion? It's not true that ETH is dead and all ICOs. You have to consider that many scams affected the market. 

Clinton News and Trump TV are no "insiders", it's just misinformation. 2018 in 4 words: Trump TV and Clinton News are dead.

It is not very excessive saying it today because we are seeing it right now. ETH is not the only one that offer any company to start their start up in cryptocurrency, we have Stratis, NEO, STR, and others.
They're making a progress this year while ETH itself technically did nothing so far.
Does not that mean, this year ETH fails to meet up our expectation and 'DEAD'?

To me for cryptocurrencies market and blockchain technology to be able to survive this hash banning and attacked from governments and financial institutions at the beginning of the year it has tried.  I expected the market to be worse than this and I am very happy it worked in this way.  For some of us that like cryptocurrencies market and ethereum I think we should keep holding because when we sell we are joining those that did not wish the market well.
 Ethereum is not death in 2018 because it is at the middle of this year before we see a significant drop in price and this is normal in any market.

ETH and ICOs are neither dead. Those are the bed rocks of crypto. Interesting how doomsday predictions are everywhere. You can check Ternion out and see if that ICO looks dead to you https://ternion.io/?utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_newbie=bounty

this sphere experienced a too fast and unhealthy growth, but the claim you made is a sign of a serious brain injury... there were too many scam ICOs, and it needs some regulation, but ICOs are still necessary as method of crowdfunding. Regarding the dead of  ethereum... do you realizae that  90% of projects use ERC-20?¿?

ICOs and Ethereum are not dead since there are plenty of ICOs still going on and in pipeline for next many months. Most ICOs are still using Ethereum platform. All the coins have seen huge losses in price in 2018, not just Ethereum.

Only people who are desperate and people whose minds are short, respond to 2018 with 4 words: ICO and Ethereum are dead. I think cryptocurrency players already know the nature of cryptocurrency which is indeed volatile.
Let us respond to these situations and conditions in a good and positive way.

I believe that all the speculation that ethereum is dead is the same as rumors that bitcoin is dead, this rumors not worth even a penny, and it is probably targeted propaganda to help create a negative mood among token holders.

I would say " the dragon is sleeping".  Bull markets are always followed by declines. Trading 101- who knows when the next one comes but this tech is going nowhere but upwards in the long term

It is orginal for every new industry to witness good and bad days before it stabilizes. ICO will not end because it is innovative idea, you can see that many countries tend to regulate ICO, because it is new form of funding that can activate the technological domain and facilitate creating new products.

and a position like this has become an ordinary thing every year and indeed it has become a risk in playing in the crypto currency world. we must be sure there is still hope that is bright and not over

It is true that this year hasn't been good for cryptocurrency, the price of most coins have continuously dropped. As far as Ethereum is concerned it has done very bad, but I firmly believe that both ICOs and Ethereum would rebound again in next year.

Yes, definitely this year was one of the worst. In this market, many have lost money and left the market. I remember only a few projects that, after listing on the exchange, did not fall in price. Only one project gave 15 Xs after listing, this is QKC.

While the situation on the market is very bad, ICO can not collect almost anything... Let's believe in the future, everything can change very quickly

I agree if 2018 is a grim moment for the crypto world, but to say that he will die I disagree. I still believe in crypto. crypto will rise again soon. hopefully the resurrection will soon occur in 2019. let's think positively for our common good.

Indeed we cannot deny it, that 2018 has been a dismal year for crypto due to the many trials and disturbances that hinder his journey. Until today ethereum is still widely used by ICO for their tokens, even though now they may have contributed to the fall in the price of ethereum, someday they will surely make the value of ethereum jump higher.

2018 has been a challenging year for many people. This fall caught many by surprise. The popularity of ICO and Ethereum has fallen, but it is too early to talk about their death. It is better to talk about a temporary crisis. I think it's more accurate. A few years will pass and I hope there will be a rapid growth.

ICOs and Ethereum are not dead. If you say this then you will have to say the crypto market dead! ICO and Ethereum and all others crypto coins and projects are facing the same condition, A long time bear market! So, Ethereum will regain its value of the crypto market aka Bitcoin regain! ICOs are not dead too, many good projects are failing or postponing the sale because of the critical condition of the crypto market but still many ICOs are reaching their soft cap! So, only shit coins have died in 2018, not ETH nor ICOs!

That's true because if your not enthusiast your not really believe in crypto. Eth will not dead because we all know that all project in altcoin is basing to ethereum even they struggle to what the situation of the market now but still they believe that ethereum is great choice.

If it is a good ICO it will continue even with low budget because i believe there is a lot of things to finish first before accumulating funds from the investors. And most ICOs this year is full of crap making a lot of bullshit KYC after the due date ends they change the rules so fast for the participants. What a greedy piece of crap people collecting money from those investors.

I think is just marketing resetting itself and tokens/tokens should have value to survive the market Most coins are just flushed into the market will no real value shaking down those coins is the only way forward in the crypto community and shaping and restructuring is really going to take some time

Yes, most of the ICO’s can’t raise enough fund to support for their project and that is why they extended their timeline up to 2019, hoping that the market will be good next year. 2018 is a not a year for the ICO’s and most especially with the ETH, but as you said the market can change anytime we just need to have more patience for now.

Time can tell, but if you believe in this market you will continue to support it. This is very normal, and of course expect that after a bear market there will always a room for a bull run. Long term trend will really be good in cryptomarket.

It's going to be a wake up call for those tokens or devs out there to really come up with something that can help people in real life. Because it they just continue to create worthless tokens then I'm sure sooner or later it will be dead. So do hope that they learn their lessons very well in this bear market.

Resurrection? You said if you are disagree ETH is dead, so what you mean by resurrection? Resurrection is only for a things which already dead and come back to life again.
Fyi OP, elisia Ico recently reached hardcap.

ETH has risen big in the last few days. This post may have marked its final bottom. Most altcoins are also having good rises.

yes, in 2018 this was a very bad moment because there were so many collapsing ico and ethereum prices that collapsed that it caused a lot of people to lose, but I am still very confident that in 2019 prices will definitely rise again.

I think we should go against the crowd in the crypto market. I did it when I borrowed money from my family and bought ETH at $ 80. And now its price is $ 120. I was profitable, not too big, but I believe that going against the crowd is always effective.

Eth and ICO are still worth keeping, this land is very good for the future, and the market is now starting to have a positive response to every coin.
So eth and ICO will encourage me to keep collecting coins.

I am sure they can easily say if ICO and Ethereum are dead because they are losing money, but I am not sure what they will say if in a profit position. Indeed, it cannot be denied that there are many ICO who have failed to achieve the softcap and the price of Ethereum has dropped a lot. But the fact is that until now they still can survive and continue to innovate, even every day the new ICO continues to be born. So I don't agree if they say the both are dead.

Maybe ICO's are dead but not the ETH because of look at the market the price of ETH is kept increasing again in the market. There are many ICO's failed to reach their hard cap because due to fluctuation the price of ETH down but soon the price of ETH will recover very fastly.

When losing, what is available is negative prejudice, even if it is reviewed because it cannot see and understand the development of crypto when walking. So that's their disappointment at Iico and Eth. To be able to reveal that eth is still feasible, we must be able to manage it well, even though many ico fail but look at the market and it turns out that eth has an unexpected increase, so this is very good to continue to follow.

Ico is now in decline now, and many participants already talk about freezing indefinitely, and the developers are starting to destroy the Ethereum, if  make an effort, it can be at the level of Bitcoin.

Actually this year we only saw a dump period which made many people to disappoint who are not well aware with the crypto market. Especially those people escaped away who came in this field in the previous year. The long term users of crypto are still in here and they have full faith on crypto.

ICOs and Ethereum are dying. Yeah it's not dead because we can still buy it at mostly all exchanges. ETH has still market demands that are now increasing as the price had starting to crawl up. Is it now dead? Nope I don't think that ETH will just give-up that easily.

4 words?

learn short selling crypto

i think all coin is dead, not only ETH.
invested USD in ICOs  2018 was more then 2017. but income will in future. becouse so many ICO was scam. many ICO was longterm.

No, I do not agree that Ether and EOS are dead projects. I am sure that the developers of these projects will do everything possible to ensure that they survive in the future.

Eth is struggling against the worst, and look at a market that is already friendly, so eth is valuable.
Likewise, ico has started well even though many have failed.

We're not dead yet.

I think this is the best summary of 2018. The bears tried to kill us. But we're not dead. We are living. We survive. You won't kill us!! :D

ether is alive, ICOs are alive too but might be replaced by STOs soon
anyway there is nothing to worry about for ethereum holders imo
you might be anxious about future of all cryptos including ethereum and it would be meaningful, but ether is looking more comfy than most other top coins

2018 was the year people got what they did not bargain for, we all get carried away witht the uphoria and alot of people have been burnt. The market lost more than $700 Billion, this is a huge money. I don't think we can blame Ethereum and ICO alone because BTC also lost more than 80% of its value from the top, we need to look at the mirror and blame the person in the mirror because we allgot greedy and thinking the market will go up forever

Ethereum's platform isn't solely dependent on the ICO industry for its value proposition because it has far more use cases than that although they do make up a large portion of its utilization at present but this will change as more businesses begin to use the platform not just consumers

lol . those four words are too harsh but yeah you are correct , ico and etherium did exactly died but not permanently because we can still see that they still have a value  . you can only say that they died when the time that their value totally drops to zero and dont recover anymore .

One more thing , why didnt you include bitcoin ?  you know  and we all know that bitcoin did also died a little .  anyway , lets forget about these things because we are now ending 2018      . 

The ICO world in 2018 is like a cruel wilderness, those who can survive and continue in 2019 are the right ICOs that have a real product, ecosystem that runs and supports a broad community.

WHAT A BLOODY YEAR! Four days before the end of the year and we are still going sideways. The previous pump on Christmas Eve didn’t do much, actually quite short to be considered as a bounce. Keeping hopes up for a bull but not really expecting it. I dont want to get heartbroken again you know.

This is something that I have been thinking as well, icos and their developers were taking advantage of the lack of regulation in the market but the huge amount of coins and fraud going on in the market has made governments of the world realize what it's happening, so it is likely that there is not going to be any country in which there is not going to be a strong regulation against icos.

I agree that 2018 is a bad year for the whole cryptocurrency industry though we are seeing a bigger adoption and utilization of the blockchain technology in many fronts. The reason can be that many big and small investors that entered in 2017 were gone this year and there is no indication that they can be back even in 2019. This can be the big reason why many are really pushing for the approval of the ETF so institutional money can be attracted to enter and be a part of this fledgling industry but I doubt if the approval can have a lasting positive effect on Bitcoin. I am not saying that we are doomed but I am expecting changes to be coming in 2019 whether we like it or not. ICO has to transform itself into a new form where investors are protected and not scammed...there has to be a way for this and we are seeing more interest on STO. As to Ethereum, it can metamorphosed itself and that is what its developers are doing now.

Let's hope for the best but prepared for the worst.

Firstly, it not every countries have allow the use of crypto currencies so if we are talking about ICOs regulation such countries shouldn't be included.
Meanwhile, Ethereum is not dead but there's possibility that ICOs will be dead due to the statement by the US SEC but there's chance that they will end up regulating ICOs as you said.

Not all the ICOs and not ETH. I think ETH will be good in the future because the market cap is still big and the possibilities to witness rise in the value of ETH have not yet faded so I am more optimistic about the future. The present is a bit harsh on us.

I think, Ethereum didnt die in 2018 Maybe ICOs are so close to dying. I believe in 2019, we will see the rising of Ethereum with Bitcoin. ICOs are better than nowadays, ICOs will like one year ago. I will invest to Bitcoin Ethereum and some top altcoins after the christmas so next week

Why do you think that ethereum is dead?
I don't really think so! Eth price has jumped from 80$ to 150$ within a week! Incredible result!

It seems to me that even the projects you are talking about now are very difficult to survive this decline. They will be hard and go to the stock exchange, but I hope they survive. 2018 turned out to be hard and I don't know what the next year will bring us, but I hope it will be easier than this year.

There are countless of haters always stating that bitcoin is dead every time there is a price correction. Guess what happens next, most of them are now a bitcoin and other altcoins investor. The perfect example is Jamie Dimon. This scenario also applies to those people saying that ethereum is dead. How can you kill an altcoin that was a pillar of numerous tokens? Ethereum is here to stay just like bitcoin.

That's right and if I think ICO and ethereum will never die quickly because the thing that enliven the crypto world is the ICO project that provides free gifts to users

2018 is the corrections year, we already got too many ICO that flooded the market so it's normal for some ICO to failed,but there are numerous of ICO got good potential that come out this year and eth just slip,it's not yet dead, infact this is the great time to buy some, eth still got a lot of supporters,with a little pump it will shift the xrp place

I agree with the development of ico, ico made due to the development of crypto is also increasingly fast and spacious. We have to realize that. However, not all your statements about the ico that gives free coins to the users it is true. not all ico held an airdrop and bounty. some ico just held sales only in the absence of their campaign, and there are also successful.

You probably forgot how many times predicted the collapse of a coin, and then it turned out that this is just another panic, with the same bitcoin constantly say goodbye, and he is alive and well

ETH isn't dead, nor are ICOs. ETH is still one of the most used cryptocurrencies, it will take a lot to knock it from its perch. ICOs are in dire straits but they'll return, they're really just a way of raising money, there's no reason for them to be dead. Wait till the market recovers and we'll see projects raising absurd amounts of money again.

Here's my 4 words.

Crypto bubble burst, hodl.

Ethereum hasn't died yet just ethereum has experienced a long decline, but not only has ethereum altcoin experienced it and now ethereum has improved somewhat now ethereum is priced at over $ 123 and maybe in 2019 it will rise again, hopefully I hope.

you are right not only ethereum has experienced a long decline. the down is not ethereum and other coins but the crypto market as a whole, it makes everyone have to wait for a long time so that ethereum and other coins can grow back. be patient.

I wouldn't say either are dead. Ethereum has its 2.0 coming out soon which is really big and there are still good crypto projects like EVOAI, which creates a better crypto market in general, in ICO phase. This one in particular is only in ICO phase because all crypto markets are at a low with respect to fiat. You can look more at EVOAI at http://evoai.network and read more in the telegram at t.me/evoai

I think it's no secret that 2018 is not as successful as 2017 but we still have a lot of interesting things ahead of us including a hard fork Ethereum which will not let him die.

Price correction or should we say, a time for a bear market. While some are saying that it is the end of crypto because they have seen too much of the bear unleash its claw in a whole lot year. What more we could expect after this year? But we should stay calm and easy because everything is just a normal occasion in the market.

Even if the price will go even lower and the ico market and ethereum will not die. The fact that ethereum and ico already exist before the price from both of coins were going to the moon last year. It will stay in here forever.

I guess this sentence is the best thing to say. From the beginning of 2018 passed with frustration. The ethereum reaching $ 1900 is now down to $ 100. Unfortunately, it's too bad. Bitcoin, I'm not entering the subject of already 20,000 dollars in bitcoinin is evident. Someone wanted to end the crypto money and I think they've reached their goals. I hope I'm wrong.

no it is not dead but is in a coma, if it dies then ico and etherum have not produced and have no price. now it might be falling dramatically and it's hard to go up so people call it dead. I am sure that ico scam will be reduced later if everything is normal again.

That is partially true. Many ICOs are biting the dust regularly, but the worthwhile ones with authentic MVP stand strong. Also it depends on the project. Lending projects are dead, but some cryptocurrency exchange projects like Ternion are cool. Due diligence is important, though https://ternion.io/?utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_newbie=bounty

Unless there will be no ico at all and is really impossible and am sure current ones will take care of that so i think ETH is actually doing finer than most coins just that some other smart contract might take a harsh competition over it by next year

sometimes the dead are living longer than you think. for me, ethereum does not look dead and i am firmly convinced that this coin will continue to be used a lot. this will lead to the price also hopefully rising again sometime. but icos seem to be more damaged than ethereum itself. whether the ico market will recover is difficult to predict.

Only the coin price of ETH is down that is no different than most other coins. It is still the top choice for most ICOs so still has a great future.

I think it is not only about price, but ICOs that not really good after it done, any problem like list on market or maybe take a long time to reach it's price again, but big main market already make it harder.

yes I agree with you ethereum will not die, they will certainly evaluate their shortcomings and will return to make a new breakthrough, we just wait. I still believe in ethereum until now, as you said, ethereum is a pioneer of smart contracts and has now been used widely.

I wouldn't believes for thiese terrible and negative thoughts, is better to relax than making nonsense analysis to make people panic., i think they lose thir hopes about this recent dumped value.

He didn't know the most important thing about crypto is patience and during the price is dumpers is opportunity to buy coin for long term hold.

People say that because they want to scare people away from an investment that could be the best during the next month, even if you invest in ethereum now I do not see how you could lose money since after the hard fork the price of ethereum will go many times higher than its current price, but if they do not want to believe it let them and get the profits for yourself.

We must be able to see ethereum now in the crypto market, let their opinions drop ethereum. The value of ethereum in the market is quite good, and the holders still maintain it, and I still believe that ethereum still has better development. I don't want to listen to people who are panicking but I still survive because eth is indeed worth keeping from a coin that has no value.

Just because ETH has lost so much value (85%-90%) we can declare them as "dead". It's just another obstacles that I'm sure it can overcome in the next couple of months or years.

It has regained and recovered to three digits again, a good sign that investors are willing to invest so I doubt ETH can simply go away. If you have bought it as $80 then you're already in the positive profits by now because it has peaked around $150 at the moment.

In 2018 it was a difficult year to gain profits because of the dying market conditions. And can make the impact on ICO coins also decline, many fraudulent projects and many ICO experience delays in entering the exchange market. And to enter 2019 this, of course, is new hope for the crypto market to recover and the price of coins increases.

The year of 2018 was difficult but not only for ethereum it was a difficult year for every single coin out there, even bitcoin got huge troubles trying to maintain its price and if that happened to the leader of the market then no coin had a chance to escape the crash but this year promises to be a little different so look for opportunities to make profits.

Projects are dead for one reason - there are many and few promising ones. For everything else, I will say that the blockchain is not so easy to destroy, and coins may disappear and appear and change. There are no prerequisites that even the top 20 coins will disappear.