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We are seeing more and more futures exchanges becoming popular, bitmex, okcoin, huge daily volume. I can be sure that whales are profiting from the futures trading market by manipulating bitcoin prices.
It’s too hard to want a bull market, even now the price is low. Bitfinex doesn’t buy Bitcoin again.
The current market situation is that the whole sea is full of whales. So there will be no bull market in 2020. Whales will continue to profit on futures.

You must be joking, do you think they can forever push the price of Bitcoin don, if they even succeed doing this, they can only push the price don to $0, Whales knows what they are doing and will continue to use their bags to dictate what happends in the space but 2020 ia the next halving anyone that stand infront of three price will get hirt

Futures trading, or any type of trading will only be profitable if there are variations in the price. The price cannot constantly be pushed down and it remain profitable, the same with it going upwards. Futures trading is little indication of potential bullish or bearish periods as it's a relatively short-term outlook.

no i don't think so, because after halving period in 2020 i'm sure and believe market are going little grow and keep stable until 2021.
but this is just my speculation, do with your own risk, never trust anyone

Dont you remember that theres bitcoin halving by 2020? I can understand if there will be no bull run by this year and we are going on to 2-year bear market which is very acceptable to say that something will turn the table by next year.
Dont be discouraged if the whales are manipulating the market, if they do something right of making the market well and stable, you dont even have to thank them.

Not sure about that considering there will be less and less bitcoin in the market. Next halving will have occurred in the next year and it will give a huge impact to the bitcoin just like what has already done by ethereum a few weeks ago. Just never try to lose any hope in the bitcoin and that could be the main reason.

There are rumors of many big players with deep pockets buying bitcoin outside the exchanges slowly while the prices are low. It is matter of time before demand will overwhelm supply and prices explode up.

Do you mean no bull market until 2020? Well we have different predictions regarding the market and taking a look on it if this will continue bull market might wont happen in the next couple of years. We'll see, regarding BTC demand I still believe it will increase from time to time as long as it is being accepted globally in a daily basis.

As long as the general investors do not panic sell and panic buy or FOMO, the whale will not profit from anything. The whale is not always in control, until now people still have more control than the whale, so we need to keep hodl and fight the whole control.

Indeed bitcoin halving will occur in 2020 and often the market will be bullish again, as happened in the previous year and always repeat itself. I think we will never be able to stop the whales, so we better focus on preparing assets to welcome 2020.

It is possible that we will not have to wait until 2020. The Bull Run is associated with halving, but it's enough that google, mcdonald or another giant will announce that they accept Bitcoin to start another panic buy.

We are still waiting for bulls this year but if this year we don't have them next year. The Bubllish market is sure to exist, but the opportunity is not there yet and we will find, maybe your estimates can be missed, who knows that at the end of 2020, all nobody knows the bullish market will occur.

Maybe that is not reason why the bitcoin decrease or the market dump. Yes it is hard to start bull run but if we want we can do it easily and no one become hard because you and me are going to buy bitcoin again. We need to have teamwork in bitcoin community because Im not one and them are getting benefits and ofcoarse you are also gets more profits and benefits.

 Probably but it will happen only in my opinion unless if on this year market will rocketed again.  Because it's like what happened previously on the market wherein its stabilize and continue growing on year 2017 and break new records but unfortunately it's gradually crashing back to the Lowest price after which during year 2018.  So for me I'm pretty sure  there's a tend only that no bull in 2020 unless if the market recover back to the ATH also on this year.  

Back in 2017, there was tons of people who made very good money by trading the bitcoin futures and nobody ever complained then. There were bears who shorted at $10K thinking it was the top and they got rekt when BTC hit $20K last December.

Right now the reason why we get these barts up and down is due to low volume. So it doesn't take much in terms of sell/buy pressure to move price $100-$200 or so. In November of 2017, there was more participation and more liquidity so there were no crazy spikes like we see today.

Also when price was hitting $3100, there was very little sellers and the price had to reverse. So even if the future traders tried their best to short the bottom, they weren't succesful since the market clearly ran out of sellers and it had to go up and reverse.

But this manipulation is exactly why the US SEC and CFTC won't be allowing futures to come any time soon. If they do, you can be sure they'll be watching these whales very closely, which is something the whales will wnat to avoid.

Bull market won't be here in 2019, this is almost certain from rational thinking. My earliest guess is 2020. But since when does the crypto market listen to rational thinking?

Your too advance , we are only at 2019 and youre already predicting what will happen  in 2020, how  would you know that there will be no bull.run on that year, even another halving will happen on thag year.

price had already been stable for awhile from $3k-$4, maybe this is already a sign. it pumped earlier to more than $4k and back again, the price might not dip to less than $3k and so there is a chance that this will really go up sooner. all it needs is for the forked to be done and regardless of whether ETF is approved or not, prices will rise.

I have that confidence which will create a bull run by that year. Yes, the 2016 halving created a bull run after a year so that's very likely. I don't have any expectation anymore for this year. I'm preparing for a better market by 2020 onwards.
And that preparation should start right now, we must compile all the assets that we can before that bull run comes. I'm quite prepared and wanting to start harvesting the profits by that time.

Regardless of what the whales are doing, but if they want to make long-term profits, they must maintain interest in the market. By killing the market with futures and options, they will earn, but its to bite the hand that feeds.
If we assume that huge market players are smart (and how else?), then for long-term profit, they will not allow the market to remain half-dead.

But even if they could, do the whales want to push the price to zero? They are the ones which are holding the most coins in the market and so they will be the most affected, they are manipulating the price just enough so they can get profits in the short term and accumulate more coins for the future but they do not want to destroy the market or scare so much potential investors that the recovery of bitcoin takes more time than necessary.

I think that we are in a cycle of decline so far, but in the year 2019-21 will necessarily raise prices, look at the past years so it was at least 3 times. We just have to wait patiently for that.

To be safer in investing this year, it is better to refrain from pouring fresh money into the market, the situation is not so good, buy gradually at support prices

Past events are not guarantee of future events ;) Current decline in price will continue this year till right time when others are done with crypto. Financial markets are unpredictable and emotions control the market cycles with simple logic. In this situation patience is virtue if you can.

I heard in middle of 2019 it will come, but once again, maybe no one can't predict how crypto will go because at past, people said crypto will up at the end of December. And we can see it is already half of January and nothing good come.

I think we are still very far from 2020 and a lot will still happen from now till then. I seriously believe that we are close to another bull run and that might happen in 2020. Bitcoin halving is going to makes that happen and if you are a trader you will agree with me that this is going to influence the market positively.

I think that the bull market will inevitably come. So far, the forecasts are quite optimistic. The bulls sooner or later to return to the market, as has always happened, and this time also will happens. For someone it will be difficult to wait when this moment comes, but I will continue to invest to properly prepare for the bull run.

There will be no bull market in 2020 because it will be in 2019! lol I am confident that bulls will finally revive this spring. We still have to go a bit lower to find the bottom and in about 1-2 months we will be off to higher heights.

Yeah, we cannot expect an easy bull market usually it takes time before it happen but I’m pretty sure 2019 will still be a good year compare to 2018, so nothing to worry about just keep buying cheaper bitcoin and in the future you will be happy because you will see a great profit of yours.

Hahaha are you crazy man and obviously it's too early for that discussion, these month is 1st month of 2019 it's almost a year to predict bitcoin reach for the year 2020.
And actually what is the effect of bitcoin value for the exchange raises in the cryptocurrency world, i think is not affected bitcoin price because even how many exchange riase bitcoin volume is distributed equal for the holders.

Those whales won't live without some small fish for them to eat, if you know that. But your speculation is too exaggerated because we didn't know yet what will going to happen in the future and here you are now talking about this and that without any proof. How does this makes sense to you? Show us some proof and we might believe you.

See it is impossible to predict sudden dumps and pumps in the market because through fluctuation it is impossible to predict. If you cannot wait for the recovery of Bitcoin it is better to stay away from the cryptocurrency, so always plan according to the income you have. I hope by 2020 the price of Bitcoin will recover but we don't know how much it is going to be we don't know.

People will have their opinion, but it will be better if we have data beside of that. But if only hope for it, maybe a lot of people have same hope with you because we wouldn't let bear market keep coming.

We will see what happens in 2020 and now we will first see this year's crypto trip which is only entering the first quarter. We think positively to be able to provide a better record, the bullish market is there and is patient to find this.

Who knows bull market will comes or no in 2020
it depends on news that will coming in 2020, if there are more good news coming in 2020 I'm sure whales will pump the market again and we will see the moment in the end of 2017 will repeat again...

I think then the market may not live to see this day, with the price falling, demand will fall and, accordingly, the whales will not have a profit. Everything is connected here and the loss of one chain will lead to irreversible consequences.

I hate the market's forecast. In fact, no one will think that the cryptocurrency market will enter the bull market in 2020. The cryptocurrency market is not regular, so the market is predicted to be ignorant. The bull market may come tomorrow, and no one can predict.

We will study every graph that happens and many positive market thinkers will bull, but that's when no one has been able to predict correctly. We are in a world full of predictions and must have an attitude for this. This year is just running and the market looks sluggish, but 2020 there will be hope for a better market.

IMHO this falling can't last forever. IMHO this will change when it will be no crypto to sell. And looks that we are very near. Who wanted to sell crypto already done this IMHO. Nothing to sell. 

You are like a psychic who can read the conditions in 2020, currently it is still at the beginning of 2019 and to reach 2020 is not a short time, and I think that is enough time to make the market bullish.

I support your point. I believe that bull run is not so often repeated event that it came so quickly. I think by the end of 2020 we will see an even greater drop in prices, which will reach the bottom. Once this happens, you can expect a lot of growth, but not before.

Just be patient and waiting for the time comes, nothing we can do except wait for a while. How if the bull run comes early before 2020? Because the bull run can come without notice and we don't know that time, we can only see there is a big change in the market and makes every coin price can jump to the higher price. Besides that, the volume on many coins suddenly increase, and that means the bull almost comes and gives us a surprise.

I feel that this is wrong. every year, there will definitely be a bull market even though it's not big. well, staying positive about this development can also make us work better. I think that starting this year there will be a steady increase in cryptocurrency prices. I just don't know why many people have become pessimistic about cryptocurrency lately.

If we observe it every year there are bulls and we often encounter this and maybe not many people take advantage of this condition. Even though the market currently looks sluggish but still has good value in the development of crypto. We will meet the bull and let us use the condition well.

2020 is next year so instead of worrying about it, it is better to focus on 2019. Next bull should start in 2019 and how high it goes will determine the next correction.

This is the same as the assumption that bitcoin will die this year, or bitcoin will reach 50k. It's not based on any solid evidence and solely in the person's speculation. We all know we don't have any way to determine what's going to happen in two years.

Relax mate...don't force the situation as the cryptocurrency itself is unpredictable. As long as people will buy and use crypto then we have hope that this will make hype and create a huge demand to have a bull run if this will not happen this year then we should have enough patience to wait for next year and so on. The possibilities could be higher with the increasing popularity of cryptocurrency.

When the market is not growing, it also means that whales have low profits or no profits. Because in the crypto market is a psychological fight between traders and whales.
They always make the market volatile to profit from traders who buy at high prices. No need to wait until 2020, 2019 the market will automatically recover gradually.

I think it will be very early for us to speak for 2020, until then there will be many opportunities and crypto coins will become stronger as in the past years. The year 2020 is very active and a good year for crypto coins :)

We do not know this year or the year 2020 will be bullish, all this is still in the estimation so bullish is highly anticipated for us who still survive in the crypto.

yes i agree with Inu.Guren  statement about bitcoin price and condition in 2020, halving are happen in 2020 like 2016 ago and you know what happen in 2017?? bitcoin going to the moon  ;D ;D

somehow i still hope that we will have a bull run in 2020. the block halving at bitcoin is due in 2020 and that could push the prices towards bulls. anyway, i hope so.

Actually what does the OP wants to tell, does he mean that if the futures trading is allowed then the market wont rise, then i think his theory is wrong as it is true that whales are getting benefit from futures trading but they can even boom the price and earn. So their is no correct theory about your No bull market in 2020, it can be even in 2019 also .

How you can be sure that theres no bull run in that year we are in 2019. Its takes to long for next year and many will be happen in crypto but we dint know what it is. Whales is everywhere but you are the one that can manage well your funds in crypto, your strategy.

i dont think so, becouse easy for buy = many people is Ready for start.
we want more and more newcomers on market, and new exchanges will help us.

i like new local exchanges :)

does the price increase depend on whales? I don't think so, there are more than 10 million existing users with varied capital and that amount certainly affects the price in the market, whales are not the only one market influence, so don't be too dependent on whales, after all there is halving in that year right? of course it will make demand rise again

You seem to be correct in a way that you are telling that market is full of whale and they are manipulating the market. Yeah, that's true but about yhe bullrun, who can say? No one. I think within 2020, bullrun will be come and every coin will face the ATH.

No bull run for 2020. It's too early to say on what's going to be the fate of the market by next year, why not just focus for this year's situation and let's give each other encouragement and hope that the market will be better again. It's likely that there's more adoption by 2020 and good events.

Lmao, What's that video? Or are you just shilling for some shitcoins?

No one can really tell when this bull run will start. We need some catalyst to start them to run, however, at this time, we haven't heard anything that will stir the market and the investors to pour their cash on the ecosystem.

We should forgot about 2017 though, we can't compare them in term of the sheer volume of investors and newbies suddenly flock the market that year. That time has long been gone, what's left is investors who owns a lot of coins and will just simply hold, and speculators taking advantage of every situation to make money by shorting.

there will be a big bull market in 2020.
all coins make at elast 10x.
it will be like 2017 december.

You stop such nonsense, the bull market is not difficult. In 2017, the bull market just appeared, and now it’s only been a year’s time. Why do you think that the bull market is difficult? The capital market bear market and bull market are very normal phenomena.

It's very early to say there will be no bull market either this year or next. At the moment we are testing a low point, we've reached some limited stability around $120b whole market. I think we need a sustained recovery up to about $220-230b, and then we can say that e are ready for a new bull run. Yes, the current sentiment is still bearish, but there is plenty of time for this to change. Don't give up!

I stopped to continue discussing about the bull run. I kept reading the posts about bull run predictions and most of them only predicted without strong reason or reasonable reasons.

I myself still believe that there will be a bullish moment in 2020, we all know that nothing is impossible in the crypto world, even difficult to predict for movement. Just a little hope

It's more of the hype and giving people the encouragement about the bull run.

Many has been saying that they want to give up crypto for this year but as predictions come out, majority of them tells positive things because they are long with bitcoin. Start to doubt them if they turn into a bandwagon and tells negative things about bitcoin, it's a sign that they sold already.

If you cant destroy them, just join them. There are some indications that whales are on the attack if the volume of specific altcoin went up surprisingly or if there will be a similar numbers appear on buy or sell request. You are too advance thinking that there will be no bull run on 2020 where in fact, this year is full of potential where the market can recover.

I will be patient and not pessimistic about the bad conditions that hit the market, bitcoin will be able to increase and between 2019-2020 the market will stabilize again.

Even if there is no bull run in 2020, i still believe crypto will go its way in a good future. Only the way to go could take longer than expected.

I personally think that 2020 is exactly the year we will be seeing some interesting upward price movement from BTC and altcoins again. I think that the current year is the one when we have this stagnation and recession before the buying season again.

The bull market will return. There was just too much money left to be made for big players.

I just don't think that bull will not be in 2020, because you can't predict what will happen tomorrow, and you predict for one year. And I think bull will be in 2020 because it's regular event for market.

we just not predict about the future market but we analyze the market condition and proofed data from previous year ago, and we can make few prediction about that

In the year 2017 the market is pretty healthy but in 2018 the opposite happened because the market got dumped too hard .  now we are on 2019 and i think the market will become now pumped based on its past movements  .

On 2020 , there might be a dumped again  but if whales will manipulate it depending on their taste , then its up to them  . the cycle might change without prior notice  and we cant do about it .  the only we can do is hodl and wait for the best moments .   

Current market conditions are not going to give a idea bout future of market. Every minute is unique in market and crypto markets are more volatile than other financial markets. Tomorrow is unknown till day next after tomorrow ;)

I do not quite understand how the futures market does not allow Bitcoin to grow? What does this mean ? Why futures are such a factor because of which we still can not see the continuation of the growth of Bitcoin? When will it end ? And what should happen for it to change for all of us?

Lol, there should be a bull market run before 2020. it will affect all alts, ledu, eth, vechain, enjin etc.

bull run will happen faster, maybe this will happen before 2020.
some possibilities can occur but the possibility of a bull run will occur soon this year.

yes you are right, I also believe that, if this year there will be a market increase. We don't need to wait for bulls until next year, but clearly, the bulls that occur will not be as big as they did in 2017. Don't expect the crypto market to move in the same cycle. we cannot predict the truth from the crypto market. we will follow the market flow.

Unfortunately, all this may be true. Due to the fact that the Bitcoin futures market is now very large, this may lead to the fact that a small number of large whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin in order to continue their game on futures and Bitcoin will not grow because of this.

I personally cannot predict what will happen in the future. but the optimism of many people now has made many people still believe that the market will return

I have resigned myself to the fact that there is no bull run this year.
But if there is no bull run in 2020, that would be bitter.
That is why i remain positive and hope for a new bull run in 2020.

I want the market as soon as possible to increase but I don't expect too much, I just think I will continue to survive even though the market is not difficult to improve, but in the future I'm sure to recover.

That is because those are not really predictions but an expression of what those users want to happen, when seen in such light you begin to understand why there are people predicting a bull run during the next month, they do that because they want that to happen so they can recover the money they have lost, once you understand that fact you can begin to ignore most predictions and only focus in those that have at least a short explanation of why they think the market will move as they predict.

I don't feel watching any video now. And you can't be sure of telling that the bull run starts this month. I'm optimistic too but I don't think that it will just happen just like a magic show.
There will be but maybe exactly on 2020 when bitcoin halvening happens.

We will find a bull market later, whether this year or next year. All of this is time and now many are taking advantage of this moment to collect coins. The market is still long and this will continue to run, be patient to be able to survive so the market gives good hope to us. In 2020 there will be a bull market process and many coins will increase.

This is wildly speculative at this early stage of the game so I might come back to this thread later this year with a more realistic outlook on what's possible for next year as the market is very unpredictable and many factors could cause some value to return in the meantime regardless of any price manipulation

The market situation for the year 2020 is still remain to be seen and there might be some developments that may happen along the way. The market is unpredictable but i believe it will not going to remain mostly bearish before 2020. Several factors like the launching of BAKKT and ETF might push the price of the bitcoin up this year. There is a possibility that several coins, not necessarily bitcoin, might lead this year's price rally.

Whales are doing their best to make some profits in the dip market and I always salute them for that. I could not imagine what can happen if these people will one day leave the market...am sure we will never wish for that to happen. These whales are doing all they can to make out of the situation and things are not always positive as they are also encountering bad days. All of us are playing our part in this market whether it is up or down. What we can never deny is that everything here is business and people who are putting up more risks can have more rewards if the market will be smiling on them. Now, am hoping that you can be wrong with the prediction of no bull in 2020.

We cannot predict for this year and see that the market does look stable and move slowly, so we can predict 2020 there will be bullish or not, then we will return later at the end of this year and read the graph that happened.

I think we all want a bull market, and it is tempting to see signs of it... but difficult to separate fact from emotional speculation. Personally I can't see any sign that the bear is ending yet.

Bull market will occur, don't worry! Think about halving, mate! Before halving crypto currency and especially bitcoin is going to grow, man!
Wait more and increase your portfolio!

It seems to me that today people who panic greatly influence the cryptocurrency market. To avoid this, you need to pay less attention to all sorts of news in the information space. The fact is that information about cryptocurrency is always different and in any case it cannot be fully trusted.

How did you know that when it is really hard to predict the market situation. It has been so shaky so no matter how many exchanges may appear, we could still not predict whether there would never be a bull run. It is still important to be positive towards the market situation.

i am waiting a big move like 2017 in 2020 too. in every 3 years btc make a big move. and in 2020 there will one too.

Do you have any certain chart for that 3 years allowance? I don't think that there's significance to say that every 3 years bitcoin moves positively.

2020 looks very promising but we will not know it until we see.

We are definitely still in the bear market, but I am optimistic that we'll see a solid support level fairly soon. Crypto still has just as much long-term potential as it ever did. I do think the worst of the drops have already happened, and we will see a return to more bullish markets at some point this year. Whether they will hit the previous ATH levels is a different question, personally I think that's unlikely given this huge drop we've had. I think a lot of people will be ready to sell up and take profit once we eventually return to higher prices.

2020 will be the next halving time for bitcoin and we know that based on the 2016 experience and the halving will give a huge impact to the price of bitcoin because less bitcoin will be dumped to the market. People are not doing any research about that.

Why is that. But I think crypto will be much better in 2020, maybe you are too tired of waiting for recovery so your predictions are like desperation.

We may already be at the bottom, which means it takes 1-2 years to start again a stable and strong price growth, it is 2020 or early 2021, so I would not be pessimistic

I am not sure if there is no bull market in 2020 because I think the bull market can happening in anytime and do not wait for the whales. The whales will always take a bigger profit than us because they are using big money to trade and once they buy any coins, they will buying use a big amount of money. So I still expect the bull market will happen soon, but like other people, I don't know when the time will arrive. Maybe this year or maybe in the next year, we still don't know.

I don't understand how long the market will be able to experience an increase again. we know that now the market is experiencing a considerable decline. and we should now be able to make an investment while waiting for bullish

If the whales can manipulate the price of bitcoin, I'm sure they can pump the bitcoin price, whales like to earn more profit so just expect the bull market in the future. 

You are thinking way too ahead brother. We still have the launching of Baakt this year and possibly the most awaited approval of ETFs. Maybe those are just waiting for the market recover a bit more or some very good news and then ride with that flow to make a possible bull run.

Not always to pump the market but also they have to dump it so they can have earn more power and profit. We need new investors, and in order for that to happen whales need to make the market more cheaper, and that is what happening. There will be new bull run this year, I believe on this but its just hard to say when so better not to make so much speculation. 

Yes it will.

Keep the positivity remain on you guys and just endure all of the bad situation of the market. If you're a real crypto folk you'll never give up to this market. It's just getting started and the market will sure become better again.

Whales will be in the position where they can gained profits, to attract more new players/investors the market needs to have some back down, whales knew that when they dumped huge amount of their holdings weak and panic holders will go along with them placing the entire market to dumped sessions, after that whales will just wait for a perfect timing buying back again and surely calculated to have more holdings and start buying again to create little pumped and those who will going to fomo will become a victim as whales will dumped back and just repeat the cycle.

You have made some good points and I think the whales are really benefiting from this market.  If they are not benefiting from it why notting is been done to pull back bitcoin to were it is in 2017. The cryptocurrencies market is currently in a bad shape and I do believe that some people are profiting from it.  However,  2020 is still far and we are to wait for that time to know if there is going to be a bull run or not as new cryptocurrencies investors are coming into the market.  Let them "continue to profit on future"

In 2019 itself we will see the big whales buying the coin and which will lead to high demand as they buy in bulk and price will rise due to increase demand . For 2020 it is still time and we should be setting target for this year first so that it can be a worth full year as far as crypto investment is concerned .

Whales or without whales the market will have a bullrun but there is no certain time for it because the marketnis unpredictable. Let's just endure this times and keep our faith into crypto. Patience is a factor in order to survive this market.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45657009
Federal Reserve raises interest rates again
No money inflow,
2019 bitcoin bubble is about to collapse, below 1k
Bitfinex is no longer for purchase btc

The bull market will start anyway, because this is the principle of the exchange, there is a bearish trend and there is a bull trend, they periodically replace each other. Especially as a result of a bullish trend, whales will be able to earn a lot more than on futures, because they now buy Bitcoin very cheaply, and they will be able to sell at the peak of the price that can reach $50,000 by 2020.

what is happening on the cryptocurrency market today is definitely aimed at large whales buying as much as possible of valuable cryptocurrencies from small users of cryptocurrencies. Nevertheless, talking about big scenes, even in 2020 So far there are no prerequisites. It seems to me that 50,000 dollars for Bitcoin after a couple of years looks unreasonable.

Do you really hope Bitcoin will rise to $ 50,000 by 2020? It seems to me that some prerequisites are needed for this, because many users of cryptocurrency are already worried about the future of Bitcoin and its capitalization will not increase so rapidly.

whales will always be there. but I think that bitcoin halving that will occur in 2020 will have an impact on the price. I am very sure if the price will rise quite rapidly. still be patient, don't let us be provoked by negative news that makes us despair and finally panic then you will sell your assets. the whale will laugh loudly.

who know about the future, i have another opinion in 2020, market can going to the moon again, because in 2020 bitcoin are enter in halving phase and that's this reason can make bitcoin grow up again

I think you have a point right there so I just think that is there another bottom aside from $3200 dip last month? I just wonder because if there is then, new investors would probably join in the market but the assurance of pumping or having a bull run is not determined yet.

We may still need some other factors like halving, hard fork, or something.

We will wait for a better news, there is no prediction when there is a low level. Improvements from the financial sector must indeed be addressed and this will help the market increase. We will see that this year will be better and the process to get the bull market back. Just waiting for the right time to find this out.

there might be a possibility of bullrun in 2020 since this year is somehow a failure for a bullrun but instead this year will become a warm up to it. Whales might get tired of controlling and manipulating the crypto market and maybe theyre full now and ready to make a profit and when that happens, green days will occur immediately.

No, there will be bullrun within 2020 for sure. And the next bullrun will be the best from anytime previous and each and every potential coin will get the new ATH. The market is going to represent a long time bearish market which will create the next bullrun into a huge one.

the reason must be with a basis and also data that actually bullish itself cannot be known in the cryptocurrency some indicators are just speculation and it cannot be a reference to be able to provide a fact

I only hope that the bull market will come to us in this year and the next year because we need to recover our losses in a big amount. I think when it's happening, the bull run will not directly increase very high but it will happen to reach one level, got stable, and break another level and so on. I would be glad if the bull runs happening, and it directly makes the price to jump too high so that we can sell the coins at the very higher price.

Manipulation is still a secret issue and until now this is not proven(but I believe there is happening)but whales a businessman also and want profit if we will go along with them then maybe atleast even small amount we can gain from them..many analysts and experts here are giving the year 2020 for the coming of the bull ,so you have a different idea On theirs

Obviously that's just his personal speculation and probably hope for the future. A bull run to get us past another alltime high is doubtful and highly unlikely. The correction and bear market plunged us a little too deep to expect another ath, even if there indeed will be a bull run.

We should talk about what will happen at this time not next year. everything can happen in that year. Increasingly increasing community anime makes the name bitcoin increasingly talked about by people

You described a completely plausible scenario - I also think that due to the fact that there are now a very large number of whales on the market - it may happen that due to the prevalence of futures trading, the price of bitcoin will be hold at this level very long time and will not be allowed to grow.

It is possible that the situation you have formed is the place to be today. But but I would say that most cryptocurrency users will agree that Bitcoin does not fall below today's level.

I hope that the cryptocurrency market will change the trend in the near future. But I definitely can not know whether this will happen in 2020 or later.

Bull market can happen prior to 2020 and after this date. I would ask you about next thing. How do you estimate bull run? What if BTC grow 3x, will it be a bull run, or do you mean ATH break?
As for me there will be something like a small bull run, but in 2021-2022 there will be bull run breaking ATH!

It is hard to say where Bitcoin/cryptos will be in 5-10 years. I expect a giant flight to safety into cryptos over the coming years.

Nobody knows when the bull market will begin, but the year 2019 is expected to be quite saturated with positive news. If the launch of the Bakkt platform proves successful, then this could be the beginning of a bullish trend and this can happen before 2020. In addition to Bakkt, there are other reasons for the growth of the crypto market, in any case, if not in 2019, then in 2020 there will be a growth in the market.

It would fly but that will only remain a prediction until it happened.
The future of crypto is bright for people who believe on it from the very start, but we cannot deny that there are still
people who are anti crypto because they believe it will not do good in this world as in their mind, this is use for illegal activities.

We, investors know the use case of crypto and it's potential, so we know it's not gonna rise easy, it will take time because we are looking for adoption.

2019 is just about to start wherein the movement of some major coins doesn't show some signs of bull run. We should focus first this year because we are still at the first we quarter. The trend continues to be staggered and I think holders still waiting for some signs of positive trends. Probably, many investors losses bigger profits from the previous which makes them to be in doubt whether they hold or sell. So, let's see what could be the trend within this year and hopefully we can see a bigger bounce back.

everyone will hope for you. but we cannot force things. we can only come to see the market with all its possibilities. it may not take long for the market to grow, or it may indeed take a very long time to see the growth of the crypto market.

If there is no bull run until 2020 then so be it but I guess, it won't hurt many investors since they are already at lost when the bear market stays long and almost 90% of the cryptocurrency lost its price. So it is a matter of time before the healing began and that is I believe will happen in 2020 while the halving is approaching.

I hope we all don't have to wait until 2020, we will see a bull run. I think in this year there will be losses even though it is not so big, but this year the crypto market must recover and grow, we can only see what kind of market development, obviously everyone must pray for an immediate increase.

First of all, we need to know exactly what affects the current state of the cryptocurrency market today. Of course, I understand that in past years an active information company increased interest in cryptocurrency, but for some reason the market fell and there are reasons for that. Only by knowing these reasons can we predict and build a strategy for the future.

Yes safety and don't forget Privacy, personal data control as todays social media sells all your personal data for big $$$. When we learn to figure out how to get control back through Blockchain technology will be a big turning point for people worldwide.

why is it taking too long to think that the bull run will come until 2020 , I think the bull run will come this year too 2019 , My speculation that the bull run will arrive in June until December 2019

In my opinion, the bull is necessary thing every year. If 2019 will be so good year for cryptocurrency, it doesn't mean that 2020 will be better. May will be worst than 2018.

We don't know what happens by 2020, but there's a big expectation upon bitcoin for the year 2020 based on the halving which is being scheduled to take place by 2020. During the previous halving good price increase was expected to take place, but nothing big took place rather than small price pumping. In this way bull market is highly unpredictable at the moment unlike the year.

Many people hope that the cryptocurrency market will recover in 2020. Most people believe that halving rewards will have a positive effect on the price of a coin.

Right, this is one event that everyone his holding for and the catalyst for a bull run to happen again. Why? Because the last bull run started prior to the halving and months following it. If my memory serves me right, its about 4 months after the event the price of crypto started to regain some traction that eventually go as far as the end of December 2017.

Right now we cannot tell yet as obviously it is still far, but if we're going to base on its past performance, this will very well be the catalyst that everyone has been waiting for.

    Halving is just one factor, when rewards for miners are cut in half. That`s a supply that is going down by 50%. Demand on other side is what
people are responsible for. Who can stop people from joining crypto-currencies? When mass adoption starts nothing will be able to hold people
from using crypto-currencies. I count more on people to start next bull run, halving is just a benefit for all Bitcoin holders!
   

How can we know all this stuff? Everything is so unpredictable that we do not know what happens tomorrow. Simply work, trade and wait for the better times, when the bulls can really come.

2020 is still next year and we do not know how 2019 will do. It is easily possible for market should go up this year and continue well into 2020 before another correction.

Yes, they can earn by secondary assets in the consolidation or in the reduce prices. But this is a dead end road.
Big players think strategically. They are forced to maintain interest in the market in order to attract a lot of new money. This is only possible with the help of rising prices. Therefore, it will be so. Maybe not 2020, but it will be.

the possibility can still occur, but none of that gives a guarantee to actually happen. the market is still bad, we all still hope the market will improve soon. but maybe just wait and see the market that we can do.

Even if we consider the option that bitcoin is completely dependent on whales and speculation, whales will not leave bitcoin as bitcoin needs a push, without it he just died, but I think that the main growth factor will be the demand for the purchase of bitcoin beginners who have just come to the market !  Everything can change at any time and bitcoin will start to grow !

You worry too much when the bull run happen. Don't worry if it does not happen this year or next year. Time will turn the future is ahead and bitcoin will turn bullish but don't expect too much it will happen anytime soon this year or early next year. We are just speculating. Anything can happen anytime.

The journey of crypto is still a long way better, don't predict negative things, here we are always optimistic that every period there is good that we get. I still hope that by 2020 there will be a better improvement than this year.

how you can say that? one thing i learned in crypto everything is possible and unpredictable when it comes to crypto so that no one can really say what will happens in the future.

what you say is true, no one will know what happened in the future. but experts can see signs of market conditions and responses that are likely to occur. their opinions are just predictions, nobody knows the truth.

Predicting it is easy but the reality is also far different, we just entered in 2019 and the market has decreased, and I'm still optimistic there will be bulls this year and next year. Feeling challenged by your current predictions, and I am still optimistic that in the future I will benefit more.

The market will remain at the level of 2018. There will be regular falling and minimal price growth of the cryptocurrency. I suggest looking narrowly at coins from the exchange, for example at DEXAGE. If the exchange market will work, then it will always support the own token.

It's the easiest thing to do. Say the words you want to say be it FUD or encouragement but most of the well known personalities are choosing to FUD because they have something to gain on it in the future. They want people to sell so it will have an impact to the price at the cheapest that they can.
No need to be discouraged if these predictions aren't going into accuracy. We can have our own way of determining if  the market is doing good. Be optimistic at all times but too much of it isn't good too.

predictions are the same as forecast and I don't believe that, because indeed no one will know what will happen in the future. if experts can predict and possibly will happen then all those who invest in cyrpto may already be rich, because they already know what will happen in the future thanks to information from experts.

predictions made by experts, it's based on the signal they get. for the truth of the predictions made there will never be anyone who knows it, even the expert himself. with predictions made by experts, you do not need to trust the results of predictions, you can make it as a reference to make your own predictions.

They cannot be called as expert if they just get their signal, they should be the one to analyze and give us the signal.

For me, experts in trading is not all reliable and maybe most of them, therefore it's advisable to make your own analysis, they cannot be your friend in your long journey because sometimes they make bad call and if you just follow them blindly, you'll pay the price.

Will go with 2019 itself as market will be back strongly and not every year can be like 2018. We have seen how quickly market take pick up in 2017 and with some positive moves in the world btc will regain again its old price and will be back in 5 digit mark.

I still believe that the cryptocurrency market will begin to recover in 2019. It seems to me that 2020 will be very successful for Bitcoin.

Agreed, the market recovery of 2017 took place in a much shorter time period. Right now similar pattern of 2017 have been happening with the market. Some are completely focused on the upcoming year 2020 as the year has got some special event associated with the top coin of the network bitcoin.

Now there is no doubt that the market is being manipulated, but I believe that by summer we will see growth and Bitcoin will not cost less than $ 3,400. I am sure that this will happen in 2019.

i dont know and no body know for really and it might take more time honestly because no investor here today and big profits are reason behind no bull.

Well, if there are whales, there are fish! It is impossible to have so many whales together without having 'food'! Optimism in situations like these fuels this game of whales. I do not think the SEC will allow the bundle of these futures like Bitmex or properly Bitfinex with such freedom and tranquility! Incidentally, will they soon begin to press on these futures exchanges and the centralized exchanges, probably one more manipulation of the whales? Either way, you can escape being the food.

it's very early to  predict such bull run.. we don't know what will happen,, whales are just playing their money they get profit even the market is down..

don't worry sir, the bull market would come
DON'TT WORRYY

We can't say what will happen until it really happens when it comes to crypto, such volatility makes the market so much unpredictable. Unlike fiat which we may have a lot of basis to determine the price, crypto is a like a rollercoaster train, there are the big player who takes the lead and there are bandwaggoners who just follow the lead of the big player. So basically, yeah big whales literally manipulates the market.

You can't say it exactly, Because there have always chance in the crypto to start a big move! Most of the exchange have fake volume, bot trading volume to gain a good position in the coinmarketcap, nothing else. I have known several exchange owners and they ensured me that most of the exchange is making fake volume to attract new coin listing by a good price!

I am not sure about it, and I don't believe anyone can get a result about the date of the bull run! The crypto bull run may not come this year or in 2020, but I suggest you, never lose your hope.

We should be optimistic and hope that we can have a good news in this year that will make the trigger of the bull run. Crypto can surprise us and it happened in 2017 and this can happen again in the right time. Investors are just in the corner waiting and observing the market and anytime they will ride with the flow if we have a good rally.

We can hope this year will bring good news for us so we can see the crypto market recover to the highest price. And if we check on the market, it seems almost all coins want to raise and break the higher price, and this makes some of the coins can move from the low price into a high price. But we still need to be patient for more because the market needs more time to start a rally to the higher price. Meanwhile, we can check the market, and we can set the alarm so we don't miss if the market starts the rally.

Investors' psychology is not stable and constantly selling panic, making the market unable to recover. I think we need more new investors and the world must pay attention to this market, the investment demand will increase. This will be very difficult but I believe that someday things will return to the same as 2017

I still believing the hope that bitcoin bullish run will go again in that year and be positive the way whales controlling the crypto market even though whales would manipulate the price of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is manipulated, even in the bull run, it can still be manipulated.
Bear in mind that manipulation of price does not only result to a bearish trend, it could also result to a bullish trend.

Therefore, you have to be smart enough to make the right decision regardless of what situation you are in, as that is the only key to success.