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There's a lot of posts in this section "ICOs will come back", "Some ICOs are scams", "Should I do ICOs". These all contain the implication that Initial Coin Offerings are fine and dandy.

What type of information do you need to know that Initial Coin Offerings are trash the majority of the time? 80% of ICOs in 2017 were scams. To put that into respective, that's 4 out of every 5. The odds are terrible. Going by the rules of probability, you're going to be apart of the four of five. Why wouldn't you be?

The ideas I've seen with Initial Coin Offerings are just as bad. Why do these companies need $80 million in the first place? Let's be realistic, most things don't need to be on the blockchain. Satoshi didn't need to do an Initial Coin Offering to make Bitcoin into a bustling success. He started off putting in his own money. What do ICOs actually have to bring to the table?

The people that are making these threads with a positive implication are probably apart of the scams, or they're risking their money with the odds stacked entirely against them.

It's possible to have original ideas offered for free. Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin. Some people are simply blinded by their greed and short-term to try speculate on the worthless. No wonder bubbles are so rampant within this ecosystem.

Resources:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-study-says-80-percent-of-icos-conducted-in-2017-were-scams

ALL ICOs are TRASH.
anybody who has been saying otherwise either has some stakes in it, like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102089.0 who is trying to sell his ICO and make money by ripping people off, or the topics come from newbies who started making money from advertising useless tokens to others, get paid in that token (bounty hunters!) and earn some money but now since ICOs are dying they can no longer make any money that way so they want them to come back.

to say that all ICO is trash was not quite right, because of thoose ICO scammer out there now it's hard for a decent project to be raised through an ICO. and it was true about 80% of ICO was scam but there still 20% of it worth to see.
it's all depend on us actually to get scammed or not. we can learn from ICO in the past year to determine which was scam and which was real.

Why I may not be a top fan of initial coin offerings, I believe it will be cruel to conclude that all are trash since there are still some good ones.

ALL Initial Coin Offerings are Trash ? I don't think its true because most in the top 100 of cmc conduct an ICO and they success and even project is really on progress .

Not all, you're hard person. Built ICO project at this time is really difficult, not all success yes but give us trash?. Not pay, scam or paused program is risk and that's why take part of ICO project is alternative income not the main. Check again your rules and fix again, replace your skill/ asset at the right place, trust me.

I don't agree with this. there are many good new projects. so why don't we provide opportunities for them to develop. do not think ico SCAM because many projects commit fraud. Look at the many projects last year running ICO have started to have results.

I think not at all.. there are some ico's out there that are trying to succeed..even after they were listed in the exchange if there token is falling down they are still there

Yes, it's just taking out money from users. Of course cheaters happy people. They steal millions of dollars from naive people. Interestingly in 2018, too, 4 out of 5 because most of the projects are not very successful now.

Unfortunately, this is the case; all ICO scams, even good projects often turn out to be terrible. Perhaps investing in ICO now can be called one of the most dubious investments.

It's been said a million times on the forum about how the initial coin offering sectors was affected majorly by scammer but I don't support the fact that all initial coin offering are trash we do have some good initial coin offering

Most of them were just not worthy to invest but we can't say all the initial coin offerings are trash.
Some of the projects really worth to invest you need to find that by your own then you won't say they are trash when you can able to make something from it.

I think not all maybe 5% of all ico can still be trusted. so instead of debate about this, we better observe a good project. although a little but we can see that there were some good projects last year that still survive today, one of them is Pundix, ODM, ETN and others. so don't think all the ico projects are shit.

I would not say that all of them are trash, there have been serious and succesful projects too and we see many ivos delivering and maintaining quality projects i know many are discouraged by useless or scam projects but if it is about the price of the project token then one of the mist important factor to blame is the longest bear trend of the market.

I tried to reason in a particular perspective. Immediately project CEOs are developers started raising money through ICOs, it was then that i perceived that scammers also started thinking of using that means to siphon money from nvestors, because they knew it would work, by playing om their intelligence.
If everyone, CEOs and developers alike cna have the same mindset as Satoshi himself, the crypto space would have been the best place to be.
Not all altcoins are trash, but most are just useless and have no definitive usecase.

I wouldn't say all of them, maybe 10% of ICOs are actual legitimate projects that offer innovative stuff to the crypto sphere, and the rest are nothing but garbage. Good thing that the hype ahs died down and people are way more cautious when investing in ICOs, unlike 2017 where everyone was pouring money at the first ICO they saw.

At least some countries like Japan, South Korea, France, and even USA, have started to (or are planning to) implement regulations on ICOs to protect investors, so hopefully, things will change in the future and scams icos will finally dissapear completely from the market.

10% of them are legitimate? Do we actually need those 10% ICO? Do we even need ICOs?
I know those 10% of the ICOs are getting a bad name because of the other 90% scammy ICOs, but there is nothing much we can do. All we can try is to avoid those ICOs. Countries that have started to regulated ICOs and put strict policies over them know the dangers of letting ICOs run free.
And yeah, don't expect those scammy ICOs to disappear forever. They will come back in one way or another.

if all Initial Coin Offerings are trash how did some projects get financing and roll out their products? not all are scams there are many good projects.

Of course, you are wrong. Not all ICO project failed or were scam. Maybe you lost a lot of coins in bad projects and that's why you think so.

This is wrong to me unless you provide a statistical proof to back this up
Not all icos are fake, we have docademic doubts exploits and also bobs repair developing their product

In cmc top 200, there are a lot of ico projects there as well
What other proof ?

I have already used 3 ICO-funded products, in addition to making decent $ from ICO-s.
Being bad at research is OP-s fault, not the fault of hard-working ICO-ers who accomplish things.
Of course, scammers should be called out, but generalizing is always silly and unproductive, not to mention - wrong.

I wouldn't go as far as saying all ICOs are trash. There are a few out there worth looking at... However, I get your point, so many projects out there are giving the ICO space a bad name with their shitty and laughable projects designed with the sole purpose of defrauding innocent investors. They offer absolutely nothing and have poor developments and roadmaps making it extremely difficult for people to look pass the flaws. This has not only led to sad tales, it has meant that the public has lost faith in any ICO and hence, label them as trash.

That's right, from the middle of last year some ICOs that I have participated in made me frussive, some were not paid, the manager had no news, even they deliberately did it with no deterrence. So that is my decision for now that I am riatus towards the upcoming ICO.

Maybe there is a small percentage of ICO that really do have some real usage in life. But I would agree that the market has been overrun by scammers since the boom in 2017.

It's just so easy for those criminals to create a project, but a eye catching title to it, copy someone's whitepaper and then get photo online. But this community as of late has contributed a lot of calling fake and scammy projects from the very beginning, so at least they could be stop before they can collect funds from unsuspecting victims.

The bitter part is, yes, 80% of ICOs are a scam! Some ICO scammed after a successful sale, some scammed after a few months, but overall 80-90% of ICOs are a scam! But still, some percentages of ICOs are good and they will live. Personally, I will not invest in an ICO, rather I like to invest now in a regulated STO! Because from 2018 to now, most of the ICOs are a scam, they are total trash!

If you are the person who believe in crypto technology for future investment, you will not say that thing. You may think that all ICOs are trash. But the fact, you cannot see the deep meaning of ICO. It is not only for today market, but the good technology if the ICO will be very valuable for the future. This is what you cannot thing, you may only think the recent price and market occurrence, not for future investment.

even more than 80%, there are only a few that really give good coin investors in exchange for their money and the rest are fraudsters who just want to earn money quickly by using the name crypto and blockchain then dirtying it and leaving just like that
and people like that make ICO even more doubtful

Yes, but I think that this is only for the best, since if the coins were immediately transferred to large exchanges, it would be bad for coins that were first placed on the exchange, everything should happen gradually

It may not be an absolute truth that all ICOs are scams (given the facts that most are).There may be some projects that deserve public funding.It should be noted that things were invariably going to fail under a stiff and long bear market

Some projects have made free offers in the past in form of airdrops and they never sold anything before lunching on exchange,
They did the funding by themselves, since the inception of the project. I just feel that such can continue happening.
Some projects are now trying to get the backings of law in order to gain more trust and recognition.

not all ICO coins are rubbish, Ethereum is one of the most successful ICO coins, I agree now that many ICO coins that only aim to get funds from investors are no longer the development of blockchain technology, but that does not mean that all ICOs are fraud, now we must analyze before investing into in the ICO project regarding Roadmap and whitepapper.

I do not agree with you. Every day more and more interesting and promising appear. In the current market, even old coins are falling dramatically in price. It is even harder for a young project to resist a bear market, but I think young and high-quality projects have a good future.

No ICO where can give good results for one year and then up to this time. When many that provide ICO trash then I say it is natural because it is old doesn't feel satisfactory results. But even though it is currently in the form of trash but the ICO will still be able to deliver the results among the many existing ones. just wait and not just in waiting for this thing to be able to ride.

Not all ICOs are trash. I recently have seen VENA which is really a good one in my eyes because they already started with their project and as far as I have tested, I like the whole system. They have now working products which may be popular in the near future.

It can be taught, many people don't get the profit they wanted through ICO, even most of them only get fraud because they choose ICOs scam. This is always a problem at the ICO, there is no reliable party to determine legitimate ICO and ICO scam. Every investor can only determine himself in a simple way, maybe in the future there needs to be supervision for the ICO so that everyone can target the profit he wants or at least when the ICO fails to launch, then the money they spend can return intact.

Last year's market also played it's role in 'ICO Scams' people used to buy anything to everything in hope of making profit.

Some member here will agree and some may not, but me I am 100% agree with your thought i happen to be victim of many scam ico project until recent iwake up from my slumber why will a developer requesting  50-60 millón to develop an app and and at the end the story we had is there are hacked I am talking of a project that claim they want to handle public fund and cannot secure it’s own wallet , in my conclusion many ico developers will be jailed very very soon.
Very soon I will published some of scam ico that are still parable to be legit but there not.

When number of scam ICO increasing then automatically people will says bad things for crypto even most of them will blamed cryptocurrency when they got scam and the percentages of scam ICO's will still high in this year because when large of money involved then so many people will be greedy and want to take an advantages from the popularity of ICO's however i believe the current statistic for scam ICO's more than 80%

The problem with that, newbies and spectators will gained bad impressions to this market, instead of pushing forward and start investing they will doubt
the potentials because of this bad things that they've seen around, this scambugs will continue to grow as they seen easy and quick process to gain money, no doubt that there's still risky people who still take ico's as an investment.

jajaja, that's not true at all, don't you see ADA ETH and WAVES too? Is the coin rubbish? of course not, not all ICO are trash .
It's not all about ICO it's about projects if the project is good then the coin will be loved and will be one of the best coins

But, I don't know but most of them are trash. They are trash because people just wanted to use ethereum and bitcoin. Both are dominated the crypto sers

well, ETH and WAVES both of it is a coins, not tokens. But we know some ICO nowadays only a little that already successed. Not about successed in their sale, but it can looked by success in market or maybe price always high that can called success.

I'm with you, almost all ICOs are scam and the scamming rate is increasing I guess this will make ICO perish if care is not taken because no one will want to invest in ICOs again and if STO manage to perform better its goodbye to ICO

Indeed, many think that all coin offers are rubbish, almost all coins in CMC are through ICO, and developed later can be accepted in exchange so many wants.

I don't think that all of ICO are trash because I think there is one or two or more ICO that can works properly after they finish the early stage and they can continue to the next stage. Besides that, I am sure that there is an ICO that was still trying to survive in the market and of course, they need to work hard to make sure their project continues and their tokens can compete with the existing coins or tokens. But I realize that there is many ICO are a scam and makes people lose their money by joining and invest in that project.

Probably most of the ICO were fake or will not meet your expectations as most of them promised heaven when you invest but in the end it is the hell they will going to give you in your investment. This because the team only wants monry from.the investors ans there is no really project that will be implemented except for some ICO projects that are now implementing real projects and are now good.

Unfortunately, there are also fraudsters in the crypto world. But you cannot put all icos in the same scam basket. Yes, most of them are cheaters, but there are some icos trying to do their job and developing their projects.

You have given the source that only 80% are scam projects, so why do you say that all ICO projects are scam. Because of the 20 largest altcoin in the coinmarketcap, up to 5 altcoin are ICO projects

Overall ICOs will remain possible but different way of funding Token maybe with the IEO (initial exchange offerings) we know it most currently. ICOs will are trash or end : not yet, depending on the type of project e.g. such as implementation, purpose vision and mission, stage of development, the product of MVP, including core-team.

it’s a correction to all thing was a lot of scam/exiting ICOs in 2018.  I think the main effort’s like the purpose any project is not credible, not competent to bring good ecosystem.

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That is exactly the point, when there is 20%+ that was not scam you can not say all of it was scam, yeah most of them were but that is the word for it "most" not "all". If you look at the coins and ICO's that came out of funding in that manner you can see that there are 3 type of ICO's that exists in today's world.

First one is the known by everyone scams, they just get your money and they get away with it, sometimes right away, sometimes they stay along for a while and act like they are not stealing directly but selling their tokens right away and whatever, basically scam you in any way or shape. The second one is the failures, there are coins that came out thinking they were great but than people didn't care about them so they went to nothing, not because they scammed people but because they failed to deliver what they promised. Last of them which is the reason why everyone invests into ICO's is the successful ones.

I have not seen a coin that stayed around the ICO price for too long, if a coin drops it drops but if a coin succeeds like the third option, it usually skyrockets into top 20 of all coins and they make you 100 times the money you invest and everyone dreams of hitting that one big coin.

for me, all ICOs are not rubbish, of course there are ICOs that are truly profitable. so we don't assume that all ICO is garbage before we see all the ICOs running. because for me ICO has something that benefits us so far, even though it's not much.

Though you are right by saying 80% are scam but not all,then coming to raising fund,not all dev can afford to develop a project with their money because they don't have enough and that is the essence of ICO just that we have too many scam project out there.

Yes, of course there are mostly scam. But there are also quality projects. For example, just check icodrops. There are a lot of interesting ICOs for investing. You all want to make easy money in short term but big money are in long-term.

You can't say all initial coin offering are trash, though some might be scam which is right but not all, some have proven to be genuine and unique. let us stop generalising . People still make profit from ICO.

They are not trash or scam, the falling ICO trend is combined with the current market conditions and it is sad that people are not investing in a lot of great projects at the moment. Just wait and you will see that the ICOs trend would recover.

I think that many ICOs today very much resemble projects that are formed on crowdfunding, as a result of ICO, this is probably crowdfunding. But for some reason, many projects do not make any dividends for investors.

Todays crypto world is indeed sad. so much scam project keep on appearing without notice, making so many people got trapped in it. The bad side form it is, the scam makes people trust on crypto market to be vanish, due to they got scammed over and over again, that they would stop investing in crypto.

indeed, all altcoins are falling but this is natural because currently there are so many people working as manipulating the market so that the altcoin that we believe has high investment potential will go down and it is very difficult to go back to better prices like before. by waiting it will be an opportunity for us to get a big profit.

Joining an ICO is no longer profitable and you will either be scammed or your funds value will immediately go down to -90% once their token listed to an exchange. Their discount offerings during ICO might be convincing but you will surely regret it after a month or two. Look on some altcoins that we thought have potential like Sirin Labs, the price are getting lower and their founder is now on the hotseat.

indeed there are a lot of shit projects right now but that doesn't mean ICO is a scam. we just need to be more careful in choosing projects. I think there are still a number of projects that deserve to be supported because the project is quality.

Whether the ICO is trash or not depends on its creators, ideas and implementation. Nobody stops anyone to try realize their ideas, just as no one stops anyone to invest in them.
It is true that there are a lot of worthless ICOs, but that does not mean that they are all hopeless. There are some very interesting projects, one of them is MyTVchain - see my signature.

not all ICOs are rubbish, because there are many proven ICO projects that are now running according to the roadmap and indeed many ICO projects are just boasting, until now the ICO project that can be trusted is the market exchange project even though many have been realized, it still runs smoothly and proven.

not all, there are some who have high quality. this is only because the market is down so it looks like ico is not profitable.

it is true that almost 95% of projects currently are garbage, but at least there are still good projects.

I may believe in your claim but I guess ICO's are essential in making the market alive. ICO give chances to investors to have their shares on their platform. They need millions to run their project that's why they are crowdfunding to forsee where their project will go to whether or not the public will patronize their product.

If all of ico do you think junk means the bounty hunter in your opinion is garbage. because we know that bounty hunters rely heavily on ico, although not all of them work well ... but this is the crypto world so believe that not all ico are rubbish and every bounty hunter certainly has his own way before following ico.

Personally I disagree with this topic, I wouldn't say all  initial coin offering are trash, because here are still reputable projects in the midst of the bad ones.

The point is that there was no regulation in this sphere. But now more and more countries are applying regulation for ICOs and this surely will lead to decline in scam projects. Besides STOs are coming to the stage, they would be controlled by SEC and have minimum risk to invest in. Soon this sphere will get very investment-attractive again, just a little bit patience...

There's a lot of scam ICOs that's why even the good ones are affected. People are loosing trust because of being scammed and are afraid to loose more money. Not all are trash. They are also affected by the drop of the market. Some ICOs didn't reached even soft cap,  but that doesn't prove its scam. Hopefully bitcoin value will recover.

The problem is deeper than just being scams, because scams are often double entendres. Scams come in all shapes and sizes, most think of scam as providing nothing in return for your investment, IE devs running away. But, this is not necessarily true in all cases. Most coins that we see today, belong on kickstarter or some other crowdfunding-based website (or require no funding at all in some cases), not having to do with cryptocurrency in any shape or form. Project that we see are start-ups looking to gain some sort of investment, without truly fully understanding what crypto is, and how this space functions.

MVP's often are developed to serve only 1 function for a crypto. Why does this crypto need to exist if it's only function is for this platform alone (often as a payment processor to purchase X good) and for trading/investing in? Essentially, this is where the perception of security tokens arise from. Because, if the token/crypto has no real function outside of a specific small niche job, then there truly was never no purpose for it to begin with. What i'm trying to say is that again, projects only enter ICOs to secure funding for their project, and to conduct an ICO you need a cryptocurrency. Well, guess what, it's quite easy to incorporate or utilize an ERC-20 or any other token, into ANY business or project, fulfilling the definition of ICO.

Thus, what most view ICOs as is investment vehicles into businesses, hoping to return a profit on a non-equity based security. This is the problem that crypto ultimately faces today, because investments into ICOs is so (or was) prevalent, and the majority do not understand the difference or what they've even invested in, regulations are going to police the entire industry (to whatever extent they can), in order to project the oblivious and clueless investor.

All this leads up to what the definition and perception of ICO is currently. There are still coins out there worthy of an investment, because they are building doorways with expandable blockchains, enhancing on technology, fundamentally furthering progress of the crypto-space. But, the majority of investors will never be able to dictate or even find such investments, and by the time they hit the markets, they are perceived as every other shitcoin/scamcoin. The only thing that truly matters for the average person in this space, is how well the coin functions on the markets post-ico, essentially the demand (or perception of).

only a few ICO can be categorized like that, but there are still ico that can be successful and can now become famous and increasingly popular, for example binance, binance exchange places are also created from ICO and can be a place of exchange that has the highest volume every day.

so, not all ICO are trash.

It is because of such disappointing statistics that I do not recommend that you invest your money in startups on the cryptocurrency market.

Yes you are right. ICO full garbage. They are simply aimed at luring money and quick earnings of the owners. As we see today, there are many ICO`s, they all cloud the cloudy future, but all this is a lie in most cases.

I hope that the situation will change in the future because now I don’t see any reason to invest in the cryptocurrency market precisely because of fraudulent projects.

People invest in the project, but in fact they do not get the shares of the project, and get useless tokens. I think the Ico is inferior to Sto for this reason.

Definitely not all Initial Coin Offerings are trash. There are still some new projects with good and innovative ideas. But there were also scam projects and others that were not worth to invest.

In any case, most coins in the cryptocurrency market are rubbish. In general, I wonder how they could attract investors, but definitely the poor state of the cryptocurrency market will be a correction among all such projects.

Sadly over 90% of ICOs have ended in the team abandoning the project, there's no finished product. They are mostly interested in enriching themselves from the sweat of others. If 50% of ICOs had gone ahead to accomplish 50% in their roadmap, crypto market won't be where it is today.

That's another type of shares. It's just the same thing but different name and the form of the reward correctly. All ico's are becoming trash because they don't have anything new to offer to the market.

Why would a person invest in something which has a idea similar to a project already there or a foolish idea? On the other hand there are many scammers coming up with ICO stuff to hide their plans to scam.

Not every ICO is trash. Looks at the hot ICO of 2018-2019
Ankr
Aergo
Credit protocol
Oath PRotocol
These are great projects, and have the potential to grow but they are counting on their product development. If they derive the right product then no one has to be worried about returns.

ICOs are trash, but STOs are diffrent! This year STOs will replace classic ICOs because STOs may attract more investors.
STOs are more regulated and their future is more secure.

Everybody invests in Initial Coin Offerings for diverse reasons and to be honest, my main reason for doing it is to make profit, and some well selected ICOs still delivers this for me so I don't think they are all trash.

Most ICO's look too good to be true - so, people flock to them like bees to honey. All of them promise tons of money really fast - unfortunately, it almost never happens. We ran a number of bounties last year and it was chilling to see how many people were desperate to get their hands on more tokens, with a pretty big number of them looking to buy some, even though we've stated multiple times that we don't sell our tokens - not to mention that we are still yet to announce the benefits that the tokens are to bring.

No, it's not, it just became an axiom due to the fact that 2018 was not a good year and brought only mountains of unnecessary or simply fraudulent ICO.

You might be a fun of ICOs but I don't think using the word "trash" is much appropriate. After all some have good intentions are really solving real problems.

I can't say that all ICO is garbage. More precisely will expression of that many of them are garbage. But there are good projects. The question becomes relevant whether the ICO will be able to return when the market recovers.

I have met many projects that are worthy of attention. I think that this sphere is still alive and it is impossible to say that all ICO is trash. Yes, now the market is going through hard times and so it is logical that many projects are difficult to raise funds money for development, but they are just hostages of the situation. When the market recovers, I think that the situation with ICO projects will also be better.

I can not say that all the original offers of the coins were rubbish. I agree that most of them simply did not deserve investment. But there are projects worthy of development. Only against the background of frustration from fraud, it is not easy for them to move into the market.

We have to seek after projects with original ideas and active development teams. Many ICOs out there are copycats with only purpose to collect money from investors and scam them. This is why we need regulations in this area as soon as possible.

Due to the current market situation all ICOs are facing not their best times, but I am sure when the market will recover, we would see so much ICOs and bounties as never before. Keep believing in crypto currencies!

This is a common phenomenon in the successful markets of something. Unfortunately, this trouble has not bypassed cryptocurrency. I think that this phenomenon is temporary and will soon cease to appear fraudulent and bad ICO in such quantities.

Actually not all ICO's they have some ICO's also are have some good work.
In this year some ICO's are now not trusted as much, Not like in the past year of 2017 they are to many good ICO's that are best t invest but for now we need to be careful because some of them are going to scam or dead in the end.

I really don't want to believe it. Because the ICO is actually a great way to offer the new project that may have better concept in the future. ICO is only part of the victims of bear market. So that they are following to be down after on exchange.

Yes we can say the Initial Coin Offering or ICO are trash.
But we cannot say all ICO's because they are have some good ICO's are active and better to invest of it if we want to.

I think this is a wrong opinion, and although there is a lot of garbage, there will still be projects that will show their true worth!

Not all ICOs are rubbish, everything is packed and has a variety of purposes, but many are unable to continue for various reasons. I do not consider ICO to be rubbish but many frauds are rampant and we must be able to sort it out.

80% ico garbage, there are still 20% that are successful, I think this is progress, considering this technology is still relatively new, there will be a lot of changes because basically we will learn from mistakes and I am still optimistic about good ico and good projects.

I don't think the people behind it are trash, nor the ideas, nor the developers. What is trash is the timing. It is way too early for such applications and that's why 99% of ICOs are doomed to fail even before they have thought about starting. Don't blame the founders. They see an opportunity for funding and they act on it.

You probably will not say this if cryptocurrency have not been hit with massive fall. I still remember vividly well in 2017 when crypto price continue to go up. Nobody will call ICO a trash because we heard alot of interesting project that are still flourishing up to date. The problem is that as soon as some people see the potential of the ICO and they see how much people take it seriously, they decide to turn the table around and turn it to scam game. Actually they didnt come too early has crypto has already fall.

Agree on this, Most of ico its really trash. The company only want a money for make their company more bigger, better to investing with non ICO Project, so we have a true pure supporter not just only a big whale or something.

Right, a large percentage of them are really not worthy in terms of real a solution too, they just tend to fabricate a Whitepaper with no reasonable real use.

I also think so, the ICO is only limited to raising funds. no real development is done by the developer. instead of making new innovations, all projects look unrealistic and seem nonsense. I prefer old projects because even though there is a lot of negative news about the coins but we know they are really developing.

Not all i dont think you are if you say this then you dont understand anything and havnt looked at history of ICO do you know one of first ICO s was ETH so what is it trash too?no and if you look will find more projects done afther ICO es ,yep we have many scams and fail projects but it happens becouse many users even dont understnad what is ICO start it.

I don't agree with that statement. well, although some ICOs have indeed become scams, some of them have developed quite well. well, we can't blame that, because we don't know a CEO will run away from his responsibilities. however, if a CEO is truly responsible, so many ICO projects will succeed. well, even now there are still a lot of good ICOs that have survived since 2017. we just need to be careful when choosing ICO. sometimes the team, and the products produced really affect the ICO.

Obviously, no because i personally had done so many ICO's which had given me a good amount of profit. Though many are scans also, but it is according to the fact that most of the people are indulged in wrong illegal works nowadays.

they aren't all trash as most of them become better just as they proposed it will be. it has a greater value when they work in line with their roadmap and get better. they may have challenges along the line as they control just a few of the market resources and that makes them have less control over the pricing of the project tokens or coins

I will agree with you if you have said many of them are trash and not the all that you said. The truth is, there are still legitimate ICOs only that they are very few compared to the rate at which those trash ones are coming out these days. We all just need to careful so that we won't fall in their tracks.

not all ico are rubbish, there are some projects that are worth investing in so try to open up and find out about any current projects. I don't say ico is good, but I just want to give a good project a chance to grow.

Maybe last one year we faced with bad moment with bitcoin and altcoin always at lower price, we got many ICO are trash because have lower and dump price after listing at exchange market, how ever we need new era at this years with bitcoin and altcoin at higher price.

You hit it right.

Bitcoin never need that.
Hell, even LTC and ETH did not do it.

But not all ICO's have bad endings. There is still some out there who had been pushing everything just so the project will keep on going and it is really for a change and not just profits.

Bounties have been enormous before and they pay quite fine. But now they will give you dust.  ;D

1 out of 5 or it could be 1 out of 10.
They started created more and some of them are really non sense or just a mimic of another ICO which just changed name.
Features. They say they have the better one but yet you cannot find it.

Paid too much for a non profit scheme. Better just put it in my piggy bank and let it rot than some thieves will just take it for themselves.

You need to analyze the solution the project proposes. If it is a real way to resolve a real problem the project can be a good one.

I dont support any idea of generalising that all Initial Coin Offering to be labeled scam, off course I know that there are so many scam ICOs out there, but that does not give the totality of all the ICOs, as I know too well that there are still genuine ICOs.

ICO community might not be as healthy as it was like in 2017.
But to tell that all ICO is a trash it is way far from reality. STOP saying that as ICO is the future of the world.
ICO is 50% real as of now and once regulated everything will be better.

There are many that has good product to back up their project but so many scam out there and we have to be very careful in any kind of ICO we are going to participate in, so we have to be on safe side .

No they are not. It's just you can't choose normal and a correct one. For example let's take a look at Huobi Russia.
- professional team
- already working exchange
- part of Huobi Global ( one of TOP world exchanges )
At least this 3 reasons have to be good enough just to take a look at them.

i don't think so no company can build a useful product in less than 2 years all ico still need time to complete their project and acchieve mass adoption but there is a lot of trash in the space be aware

I agree with you, most projects use only the opportunity to make money with the help of ICO. But actually, the blockchain trying to implement even where there is no need. When choosing a project for investment, you should take this into account and choose only those projects where the blockchain can be really useful.

the assessment that 80% of icos are just scam, is also my opinion. really many projects just want to collect money and then disappear. hopefully this will change a bit in 2019. finding good projects is really hard at the moment.

Your submission is wrong all ICO cannot be trash, that we have scammers in CRYPTO space does not denote that all ICO developers are trash, several good project has been launch with real product, I feel with regulation in the community, the trash can be sieve out

All initial coin offer is a trash ? That is very serious statement you just make mate. You need to do a very good research about initial coin offer. There are project that has been feature on the coinmarketcap that just left their ico stages and they are doing great on different exchanges. While some project that were not able to reach softcap they refunded to investors but this does not mean they are scam despite that bounty hunters don't get reward for their hard work does not mean ico are scam.There are no business that doesn't involve risk  that's why you need deep research before investing your time and money.

I think, this statement is pessimistic. There are range of good ICOs with interesting and live concepts. And of course, there are a lot of scams. But nowadays the conditions have changed dramatically and I think, it will harder to collect money for scam ICOs. The reason is that most of the investors are tired of such and have become more accurate.

Most of the ICOs are garbage, that's true. But the art of investing is just it - ability to choose the projects that will shoot and make you rich :)
We had some nice examples in 2017 when some ICO investments lead people to good profits.

Most ICOs will turn to dust.
99% will likely just steal your money, you're simply funding some "team" having a good life in a exotic location.

In my opinion, the main reason for this state of affairs is that with ICO there is an advance payment for work that has not yet been done. I think this problem can be solved by freezing part of the invested funds, and issuing them as necessary.

Not all icos are trash. Yesterday BitTorrent made xx on Binance, and before that this crowdsale lasted only 18 minutes and collected more than 7 million dollars.

but only a few of the ico managed to get it. most of those who still survive are the ico projects that continue to extend the duration of their sales because they have not yet achieved softcap. whether they can survive in this condition or not.

Yes, most of ICO are scam and the other 20% of them probably will have a price dumped at least by half when traded no exchanges... personally I stay out from ICO market in this period.

Not all ICO for me is a trash. It still depends on the success as for example if they reached their target. The hardest part today is that it is unpedictable if it will succeed. I am afraid to lose money so I am not used to invest on it. I just earned tokens that are not available on exchange thats why I can say that, yes, some are ok but most are scams.

But what do you mean under "All ICO are trash" ?
If you can multiply your investements and sell at good price. But the project still has no real application. So you made some mone with that.
Is it trash or not?

Most advantages will promote according to each stage of the project. All bonuses help them attract angel investors, why do you invest early on others and have equal benefits? Do you have questions about this and do you want to get more benefits than other investors?

This is manipulation. if you earn money on something that does not exist, then this is ordinary speculation and there is nothing good in it except profit. that is why the manipulation tools themselves are simply garbage that you buy and sell to those who do not understand anything in projects

From the beginning, long-term investment in ICO was a dubious idea) Only the creators of the ICO and the people who have invested money on a short period of time have earned the money.

Not all, 2018  is not so good as there were so many trash and scammed ICO.
but 2019 is different and there are so many people who wants to succeed in the world.
We should not stop supporting them as long as they are legit as they will make the community stronger and better.
I still believe in most ICO and they will make it.

Nope, Not every but mostly are. Oath protocol is a very good project. This ICO has all the potential to be successful. So it will not a trash according to my research.

Yes it is that. But TS didn't say what exactly mean. Anyway a profit from the ICO even "trash" ICO can't be named trash. The speculation is a huge part of market and not only of cryptomarket

It cannot be argued that all ICO projects are rubbish or fraud. And earlier there were good and promising ICO projects, and now they are, and they will continue to be. I also remember how it worked in 2017. There, 70-80 percent were working projects and all earned good money. These times still have to return. Perhaps through government regulation of ICO activities. While ICO remains a real way to improve cryptocurrency.

 ;D What is the ratio today 5 out of 5? It seems to me. Now projects practically do not bring any profit to investors. I think it will end soon. 2019 will become a collapse of cryptocurrency.

ICO these days as turn to away of making money instead of raising funds to develop a project and that is why some dev and team trying to raise a ridiculous amount of money at times.

I am with you. And I want to add: even if some of ICO are scams it does nor mean that all are.
You should check when invest.

I don't think so. Crypto will go on and on.  I hope the market will throw away all scam and all shit.

Most of the ICO are just there to scam people,fake projects having taking over the crypto sphere and that is why the ICO these days are nothing.

It's a bit harsh to say all of them are trash, some are actually very good. You just need to be picky on which ones you support, some are changing the way regulations and ID are done such as THEKEY. If you look it up and see all the great things they are doing you will be impressed and start buying

Just because you get a cut doesn't make it any less trash.

Yes, currently there are a lot of ICOs out there trying to get as much as money as possible, but I think they are actually late and people started to realize there is no money in that. It isn't like it used to be and we have to face that, most of the projects now are just scams trying to grab onto some money. Pathetic.

Everything is not trash but some are really worth it, and for this problem there is a need to sort out the best. And if you are filled with doubts because of the many scams, try taking a break to calm your mind.

You are well aware that now investing in ICO is useless if you want to make a profit in the short term. Due to the fact that the market is moving down, fewer people are interested in investing in cryptocurrencies and especially in ICO.

Nothing is real left  of the initial coin offering anymore. It is as if the current ICOs are just trying their luck to see if they can still pull any amount of fund even if it is 10% they can raise.

No, I don't agree with you. There are very good projects. There is also quite a lot of garbage, but to say that all ICO costs nothing will also be untrue. Sometimes I think this direction is dead, but there are some projects that make me question this statement.

It should be ALMOST but not necessarily all. I still believe that there one out there that is yet to discover by all of us thay can make a difference to those "dead projects", exit scams after getting a lot, a pump and dump coin etc. But of course it will still depends on the community who will support it until the project is up and working. Hoping to see this kind of project again.

I just received two of my coins, and they are not performing well in the market, and these two posts that they have reached their softcap, they are talking millions of dollars, but look what is happening right now, these two tokens are into a small exchange with no buy order.

I don't think like that because after all this depends on our ability to analyze ICO. Many ICO are running and they offer promising tokens. But we also have to take the time to do research. In 2019, I think that ICO will grow more and more.

There is indeed good coin when they are running their ICO but the problem is when it hit the market and you will see the coin's price is very much different from its ICO price its way below its ICO price and this is not an isolated case over 70% of the coins are like this.

There have been a lot of articles mentioned about that and that is an obvious thing of the cryptocurrency market until now. Currently, good ICO projects are also affected on this very much

All ICO are trash? You can't judge it like that, not every single of ICO is bad, there will be always some ICO that success and reaching hardcap, and the price after listed in market exchange is above their ICO price. It's just about how you choose the ICO itself.

Indeed, because of all those scam ICO/project making the crypto world especially on ICO to became bad. I believe there are still good quality ICO/Project that been created  in the middle of the scam ICO storm.

I don't blame you for calling ICO trash because too many icos are not worth to be released in the first place ,they claim to deliver good project but on the long run you will see many of them vanishing into tin air ,the way I see ICO its more of just copycat project and rely on investors fund this is why ICO has become a target for scammers ,its safer to invest in coins ,not ICOs

A solution to this problem will be to control the release of new ICOs and the passage of certain restrictions and checks. Only then will we be confident in our investments.

hey nice to see someone finally call ico's by what they are :) generaly speaking.

I agree with you 80%, because there are projects that could show the market what they really are and that they can still show a lot. I’m not talking about the projects that are being implemented now, I’m talking about those that were before.

I always thought developers would not be able to do the right thing under current market conditions, some could create a stable community with various updates and additional incentives, and the rest simply resigned and seemed to be able to throw coins into small markets without significant development.

I think the ICO must also be divided into several categories to save projects that have great potential with serious developers to bring the maximum things.

Yeah, scam ICOs are one of the main reasons of so deep and long correction. But unfortunately humans have too short memory and in a few years the history will repeat itself with a new form - STO.

I think what you're saying is uncomfortable truth. It was so pleasant to create an illusion,
and it's a heartbreaking experience to admit one has been fooling himself. But on the whole, I agree with you.

in any case, lately every cryptocurrency user has accumulated a lot of negative experiences. But in this case, you can not lose heart and use your capabilities and knowledge you need to the maximum. Even a negative experience is good.

There are some ICO's who provide great idea's but genuinely need the funding to start off to develop the product as it takes in alot of resources and can't be done solely by one man.

Not trying to sell my ICO to you but if you take a look at https://scroda.io/ do you think it's a bad idea? It's not

I know we are missing team members but we are in the process as we are still in the early stages after just going public. We have offers but won't just accept all offers coming to the door as we have to make sure we have quality members.

Looking at the idea what do you think?

But I do agree with you that 94% of ICO's are trash/scams

I am surprised, where is the fraud, the coins are created to participate in the exchange game. You think that no one loses on dollar exchange rates on commodity exchanges or stock exchanges, there are a lot of examples, there was a code to buy company stocks in Japan and past hurricane stocks fell in price and end, but nobody says that this is a fraud, and how many millions of people lose on courses of dollars and apartments and factories, but no one says that this is a fraud. Because this is a stock exchange, this is a game, take the new coins and sell them on the first day of stock exchange or hold them until they grow. This is a stock exchange, someone wins, someone loses this life, this is normal.

Not at all, I don't agree. Not all ICOs are trash.  We have a lot of ICOs that are doing wonderfully well, worthy of investing in especially those that have in market for some time.  Even few of those coming out now are also good just that the market situation is not making them to live to their full potential. Many ICOs are trash but not all of them

most of ICOs look poor and bad but there are also good and sucessful project, so I`d not to say that ALL ICOs are trash.
May be some of them really are. Or even most ;D

ICO is dusting the eyes. When we invest in an ICO we pay for the prospect, not for the finished work. This means that the risks are extremely high. Developers are free to do whatever they want without bearing direct responsibility.

At the moment yes. I like only fetch ai, but nothing more. From my point of view ethereum is the most popular one platform, but recently some platforms like Binance suggest a new way and it can be a hype!

You can not necessarily say all are trash at the moment because some are still performing absolutely well. Like bittorent it did x4 in this bewr market

That was the biggest mistake for them knowing that all ICO'S are a complete trash, because it was not. Though there are many ico that can be determined as scam. But most of ico also are good and have a great concept.

I would not say all of them are trash. The secret is to find one with a good use case, a legit team, a good roadmap, and most important: an idea that has never been used before.


The ICO I am advising right now has found a niche market and does its best to provide confidence in the use case of the token. And it is going gangbusters.

Althought if I had to guess, I would say STOs are taking over the market soon. But that does not mean you won't find a diamond of a ICO every now and then...

ICOs are just a new way to steal money from people but we were not into what ICOs really want to do during the 2017 ICO bubble. This led to all these many scams that have cost cypto a lot. There is nothing new that ICOs are here to solve. All the successful projects in the real world never sought financial assistance but are far better than those we see in the digital world.
If projects want to really do good, they should make things available in the form of shares so that people who wanna buy those shares will enjoy their % in the business.

Then whats the point in doing an ico? Might as well just sell shares on the stock market.

I understand why you feel all initial coin offerings are trash and this is because a lot of people have gotten burnt by investing in initial coin offerings. I myself have lost a lot of money buying some coins that has just kept going down since after the initial coin offering and statistics are also shown that project are making less and less return on investment as time goes on so is the most important thing which is to invest only in the very few good projects.
There are some projects that are very difficult to get into because of how good or rated they are  so instead of investing in the scam project wait and get the good project on exchange

I have been following the crypto market for a couple of years and have come across many good and garbage projects. The thing is that to call ICO garbage is not correct, I will explain why.  The most profitable IPO on return on investment - Ethereum (702 000%), NXT (697 275%), IOTA (282 300%), NEO (123 300%), Stratus (42 500%) and others... Do you have any idea what money the investor earned by buying tokens of these successful projects? ICO is primarily needed for mass advertising of the product that makes the project. Every day I come across new interesting startups on the pages of social networks, if the projects did not advertise themselves and did not make a bounty, they would not have started to work without the initial investment.

We should not say that all of ICOs are worthless because there ICOs that are really profitable and promising. I stopped making investment with ICOs because it is now hard to find a good one.

Not all of them are but you are right a large percentage simply aren't legitimate offerings or don't represent viable propositions that have potential to achieve usability or adoption and not a lot of investors are aware of that although recently there's been a huge backlash against the ICO industry because of this hence the decrease in the number of projects achieving success using this type of funding mechanism

You are right that there are too many scam ICO created making everyone having hard day to filter all those scams. But i think it's not be wise to say all of the ICO were scam, since there are some good quality and original ICO created among those scams.

You might have your reasons for saying all ICOs are trash , but i do not agree with it, fine and good, we can say some ICOs are scam, no doubt, but there are certainly some ICOs you wish you did not miss. There are some with very good use case and at the exchange ,they do well. Not all fall in the trash group

In my opinion, you should not be so categorical. Always among the projects of ICO there were both good and useless projects. At the present time of a protracted bear market, even for promising ICO projects it is very difficult to even collect softcap, not to mention the maximum planned amount. The cryptocurrency market will begin to recover and ICO projects will show themselves. True, this still needs to resolve the issue of fraud in this type of activity.

Some are trash, or maybe most ICO but we cannot generalize it since there are also coins that are created from ICO and are still in the market now.
We may see them dump but once in their existence they were able to make investors happy, perhaps it's just about timing, but as long as the coin
generated through ICO has an active hard working dev, that's where you say it has a great potential.

Not everyone, and tokens also have their own value for everyone. If you think this is garbage, then you are not lucky with the choice. They are far from ideal but you can get a profit from them.

I'm afraid a lot of projects turn out to be scammers, but not 80%, a little less, just weak projects that couldn’t realize their ideas are often attributed to scams, or if the cryptocurrency prices fell, there wasn’t enough money to finish the project. In addition, most of the projects are faced with new rules for regulating the scope of ICO and cryptocurrencies, which must be met in order not to violate the law of the country in which they are registered. There are a lot of such projects and many of them have not disappeared anywhere and continue to work on their projects. I also lost a lot by investing in ICO and I do not protect anyone, but we need to remember about objectivity and the fact that there are quite a lot of strong projects that have brought profit to investors and benefit their community.

That's why I really hope that is stricter rules and regulations would be implemented right away before anyone launch an ICO. There should  be a working product already there would also be an agreement of refund for investors if they try to exit out or if it failed. Another new thing I hate is that ICOs are trying to change theirs to STO which is obvious that they are just trying to imitate things that would sell.

Title: "ALL Initial Coin Offerings are Trash"
Content: "What type of information do you need to know that Initial Coin Offerings are trash the majority of the time? 80% of ICOs in 2017 were scams. To put that into respective, that's 4 out of every 5."

Before hitting on ICOs, make up your mind first if "ALL" or "MOST" of them are trash.

While I agree that a lot of previous ICOs turned out to be trash or failure, some of them turned out quite well.

I am not agree with the title "ALL ICOS are trash". Mentioned 80% ICOs in 2017 were scams, there were 20% ICOs legit, so, form the percentage itself means not ALL ICOs were trash. Some or most might be unsuccessfull projects, remembering the market condition throughout the year.

I agree that a very large amount of ICO is rubbish that will only follow the market, but I do not agree that this is all ICO!

Large numbers of icos are trash I agreed but only few of them knows what they are doing ,i am a type who always run away from all erc20 tokens because the scam rate is very alarming ,the reason why cryptocurrency is have bad face is mainly from lost of money through ICO ,this is why I prefer coins with no ICO that the ones with icos

To be candid, if a poll is held now to determine the motivation of people who invest in ICOs, you will see that they are mostly motivated by the money they would make and not by the project behind the whitepaper.

Thankfully the cointelegraph publication says that 80% of them are trash but in your title, you said that ALL are trash, maybe I am just a glass half full type of guy but you have to admit that the remaining 20% that are legit are doing quite an impressive job.

I cannot conclude and say that all ICOs are trash, or zero my mind on them. Rather i would go for the goo ones that oi believe are in existence. If an ICO that is lunched serves its intended purpose, there is no point calling it trash.
Yes, there are so many scam ICOs, but even recently, some good ICOs are making great progress in the space.

Now it is more like the truth than not the truth. Therefore, I think that now it is really so. I am sure that better times will come later, but for now we need a regulator or platform that will deal with this process.

The ICO BitTorent recently passed and it gathered a hard cap in 20 minutes. After entering the stock exchange, this project’s tokens managed to rise by 800% and bring profit to investors. I did not invest in this project, but I watched him and this project is not a scam. Another XYO project has also managed to create a large community and the price of their tokens has increased several times compared to the price of ICO, and they have launched the finished product and continue to grow. Therefore, not all projects are scam, we just need to be able to choose and not invest in weak projects.

A lot of them are scammers, but there are some good projects.

Not all ico are scams, I don't follow ico with a big bonus offer, because for me it's suspicious and that's the main factor that I need to pay attention to. My experience was fooled by the big bonus and now the coin is becoming trash, and that's enough for me, I may need more experience so that I will not be deceived in the future.

IMHO not all ICOs are scum. Like it was before with "dot.com boom" very few companies can succeed, but it will be new amazon or google, so only clever and lucky people can succeed on this market)

Far from everything, even in the last bear year there were projects that were going to grow, although the market was falling, so there are worthwhile projects!

Seriously some of ICOs from last year was a trash..I am very similar of these scams. STO will be the future on ICOs.

Indeed, many offer coins are worthless and this is very sad, the effort to become a potential coin is very difficult. A lot of competition and indeed it must be of higher quality. The effort of hard work seems futile, but there are also good coins because it is worthy to remain valuable even though the competition is very tight.

yes, many tokens are obtained and stored in the wallet, but there is no exchanger. it makes the token feel meaningless and worthy of being called garbage.

it is inevitable that all tokens that have been distributed to our wallets throughout 2018 until now are trash, because none of them can be sold. the process of listing to an exchanger takes too long.

Its true. ICO is like IPO in stocks market, every company or people can launch their own coin but competition will their success in investor hand. ICO can success if developers team can deliver the project like on whitepaper or roadmap.

Playgame is still good to enter the market, for other tokens to be damaged or maybe just fraud. Many coins that are not registered or maybe the team cannot develop, so making investors feel cheated and mocked, Datareum, which is actually on the telegram, is a place for pornographic images, very sad.

Is not every ICO is scam, provided that most of the ICO are scam  but there is some that are real is just that is difficult to find the real one .

Indeed, the reality of ICO in 2018 is not able to compete and is of low value so that it is considered garbage, this is not commensurate with the performance performed but this is the risk that must be faced. So many ICOs emerge and must be able to choose correctly if they want to be valuable, even the development of coins is not as smooth as we thought it all fell and must be passed to be more valuable.

They need to relax, investors have to understand that it take a good timing to see a good price.
We are in the correction stage until now, price won't be relevant anymore because surely projects are into long term and they are looking
for that stable and long term achievement, price will just follow specially when market started to be bullish.

Investing needs to be not the first option to make money, we will be desperate if things takes long time to recover.

After Adab solutions I cannot find good bounty or ICO campaign I shifted to Bitcoin casino because I know that they are paying, I think 95% of ICO is trash and I have a feeling that even good projects are going to scam us, ICO business could be over now and for good.

I won't say that because I am sure that there is a good ICO which can finish every phase on their roadmap and they can have a good price in the market. But most of the ICO don't have a good chance to get a good position at the market even they are difficult to enter the market because their ICO price dropped too deep. Maybe they need to fix what is wrong with their roadmap and maybe making something to solve the problem will be a good help for the project.

ICO projects are a problem since a very long while, almost by law one can say that 3 out of 4 projects (and im being left short) are a scam. They proliferate without a limit and im pretty proud to say that compared to two or three years ago the number of people negative trusting such went from evident scam presence to almost any project since they are based on engineering and hype, it is very hard to fight some because with time pretexts and inventiveness get's perfected there is a lot of problems aswell ith desenmascarating them because you make them aware of your modus operandi, i will try to make in a future a post with a deeper insight into this subject.
All I can say is that a big problem nowadays is that scammers are getting better at speaking english, I also bet that they are learning to desprestigize rival scam projects and try to seem trustworthy by the very action of desenmascarading scams while supporting their projects where they act as shills.

It is a primordial need do have a way to publicate newbie scammers to avoid people getting scammed by either new born scammers with credible accounts or  hacked/sold  accounts with trusted rating for such endeavours and prevent them.

I believe in whatever idea or project that help people localize, identify and prevent scams on time but it is a shame that there is nothing related, IF something by the style ever gets made I hope to get notificated since it's spread towards the communities should be widely known and certainly a very substantial commission should be made thru the traffic of the site to cover the host and different costs.

I think STO will be like ICO. and STO is related to law so it is difficult for STO to be widely developed like ICO. STO will have no future because it is too complicated

It can be said that it is very difficult to choose the right ICO to participate in their bounty campaign. As in all times, there are still good ICO projects, but now is a very difficult time for both ICO projects and for bounty hunters. Moreover, the absence of any regulation of this activity complicates the situation. The ICO teams are now in many cases trying to change the ICO format, the essential conditions for its implementation, impose their KYC checks, which are sometimes simply impossible to pass or often turn out to be fraudsters. Therefore, we have a choice - either to try to choose a suitable ICO project, or for now wait this difficult time.

Shockingly this is the situation all ICO tricks even great tasks regularly end up being horrible. Maybe putting resources into ICO now can be called a standout amongst the most questionable speculations.

We should not blame complete altcoins, there are many potential coin are making fortune in the market. Some fake ICO makes people to think in negative way, that's why many people are suggesting invest in coin after crowdsale because we can follow their ability and team work then the coin price will start increasing.

Arriving at a conclusion that all ICO is a scam is not actually right because in the midst of the fake ones there are still the good ones even though they might be few in number compared to the fake. ICOs have paid me well before, condemning them is not the solution as I believe cryptocurrency works hand in hand with ICOs. It is left for us as investors to do our research diligently before investing so as not to fall into the hands of scammers in the name of ICO.

I disagree with what you were saying, Not all of the new project were scam as you said. There are projects that really worth to make an investment on, and what matter would be the time of investment, if it's today mostlikely the price is so much low, but at the same time it could also be used as an opportunity for a greater future.

I don't think this is right to say that all initial Coin Offerings are trash, for me, there are still ICO's that is respected and has a reputation. If you think all ICO's are trust then it is up to you whether you did not want to trust and join to their ICO.

Not all of them and presently all ICO is affected by the current market condition so let's not judge ICO ,its all about the funding and if target is not meet then there will be problem to continue with the project ,I think it will be better if we see some kind of solution that will make ICO stay alive even in the baddest market condition but that dream seems impossible for now

I can't say all initial Coin offering (ICO) are scam. The fact that we have seen many scam projects as at 2017 does not mean there was no good or successful ico throughout this period. We only experienced the bad eggs who only made the good eggs look bad

I strongly agree with your statement because I see some ICOs that are successful and have good developments, the prices will not fall badly, usually prices will fall because of the influence of participants in the bounty campaign that sells tokens obtained and from the influence of the fall in the price of bitcoin. so it's true not all ICO scams.

The fact remains that the team of some ICOs are not realistic. They will request for a fund that they know they cannot obtain so they keep on extending their ICO, until they are no more able to get anything again and at the end the see them efface.  Some may tell you, that they have been able to raise millions of dollars, but that the project continues and they want to raise more. This also is being unrealistic.

Yes, unfortunately, there are too many scammers on the ICO market. That is why, first of all, it is necessary to find an alternative to the ICO procedure. Perhaps this alternative will be the STO procedure. We'll see about that.

 i will only agree with you partially, that some  or say most but definitely not ALL ICOs  are TRASH. Although i have not invested in ICO recently but i think the problem we have is that the bad eggs would not let us know the good ones.

there are a few projects who wants others to hold a share in their companies , so the genuinely launch an ICO  to this effect. but investors feel reluctant perhaps due to their previous experiences with Scam ICOs.

While there are ICOs that have failed I think it will be unfair to categorically say that all of them are scam. They have been sone that did well and are still doing well in the crypto-currency space

All ICO is trash? You need to do very deep research on ICO. Because not all ICOs are garbage, there are many good ICOs that benefit many people, so I think you have to learn more

Some ICO-s expecting unrealistic amounts of money for a trivial task is completely different from all ICO-s being garbage. We already know the former, the latter simply isn't true.

What a pitty that ICOs rather take free money then creating revolutionary platform.
I hope that STOs will be little bit diffrent and there will be less scams.

Not all ICOs seem garbage. I personally always support ico. But I'm not all projects that do ico that I support. Only a few that I support for ico. Because I am very interested if we invest in ico and ico, there are many bonuses if we invest. Of course I am very happy and the overall project also affects it.

Op need to go through traditional crowdfunding websites and tell us which past projects from those sites are successful today.
The fact is that few out of the multitude of projects will get funded and some of the funded projects will succeed.

However i think managers should be strict with the kind of project they accept to promote. There should be  standards that must be passed for projects to qualify for public funding.  The standards must not violate the ideals of blockchain. Managers who violate the standard could be tagged.

It should be community driven thing and the whole cryptocurrency community should be pressured to adopt a standard.

Ico are the major platform through which new funds come into market and new idea energi. But in past many ico proove to be scam which ultimate result in decrease in passion for them. I think promoter have to be sure about product to offer and promote only realistic project. If this trend contone then crypto loose its way of development

Not 80%, I would say 90% are trash and scam. That's why I don't give a fuck to the ICO anymore and hope a lot of people are also doing so. ICO has already died just because of those kinds of trash. STO will replace the market soon.

Anyone still investing in Initial Coin Offerings do that at his or her own risk. The point is buttressed so many times on this forum, so I wonder if people do not see. It's no longer news 95% of them are scam.

experienced investors can find good projects. There are entire departments in which dozens of people work who select good projects even in a market like this. I’m sure that everyone who says that investing in ICO doesn’t make sense right now - they just don’t know how to choose projects

Most of the time the icos are not that good. And people are unable to get some profit from them. We saw for last few months the market conditions of the market is not so well so the works in that is most of the icos are unable to collect anything. There is many reasons behind the ico market is the failed and scams icos.  So almost 95℅ orayb more icos in this market are fake or scam. But that not  means that there is no good project. There are msny  good project is on in this market.

Everyone has his opinion on something and i dont blame you because a big part of the ICOs existing is scam. Its also hard to define whether its legit or not. A business needs capital and investors to start a good project with a budget and i dont think ICO itself is bad. It is such that, people abuse it and its not right.

Cryptocurrency is increasingly popular, so many people are trying to make a profit by cheating through the Ico project. Then we must be smart and realistic in the world of cryptocurrency, as explained by the OP. Don't be easily influenced by the lure of big and instant profits, all require a process. It takes the experience to be able to predict whether Ico is potential or not, so be careful.

That depends on how experience you are to finding a good platform dude, That's indeed and most of them are blindly investing in the random ico without a lot of knowledge if there was a lot of hidden gem just like btt outta here.

The sad truth is that maybe 1-5% of projects will survive in next few years. When you invest your money or time it is risk that you have to take if you want to participate. Consider your invested money like buy-in the project.

not everything are trash, there are some that have good quality.
indeed it is very difficult to judge a good project, sometimes projects whose coin sales reach hardchap (usually this is considered a good project) do not guarantee to be a coin that has good value in the future.
I think it is necessary to examine several factors to decide whether a project has good potential or not.

I do not agree with this, although I understand that now this situation more describes what is happening with the ICO. I think that by 2020 something in this area should change, that is, this year there will be changes and I hope that the market will now once again fall and shake more such projects in the trash.

Well we also have to be active in checking whether the ICO that we are following has pretty good potential because as you say the loopholes to commit fraud on ICO are very wide open because making ICO that looks good is very easy to make even though many ICOs become garbage because Crypto is bad but we also need accurate analysis.

I have the same expectations, and have confidence that 2020 will be the perfect momentum for crypto.
and when it's starting to go green, it's a good sign.

Since ICOs became very easy to create and launch, ICOs became trash because individuals with fraudulent characters whose aim is only to fleece investors invaded it. Right now, investors mostly look out for STOs

I doubt about your claim.. there are also many good projects outside, but due to the lack of trust nowadays with the proliferation of exit scams, is very difficult to achieve success and keep the price of any token. So most of teams just abandoned the project! But the few that keep on working during this down trend, will see profits in the future!

That is actually convincing. I was once a Bounty hunter last year, after months of bounty hunting, only a few have given their token and most of them don't even have value to this day. I would say 99% of ICO are a scam and should be avoided to prevent more scams from happening. I agree that new innovations in this space should be presented for free just like Bitcoin.

I also do not agree that all ICO are trash. Encountered some legit ones with working product already. But yes, you can count them with your fingers. I would say a project holding ICO is not a scam if they have working app/product deployed in the market already, with active users, with transparent team members and with legit documents. But I would say, the working product is the concrete evidence that they do exist.

More than 80% ICOs are scam last year and i am agree that we can count legit ICOs with our fingers. Hard to find a legit and profitable ICOs because there is no regulation about ICOs last year and its make scam peoples want to take advantages from unexperience investor

I have not even seen any ICO really legitimate since October 2018. All of them are ICO scams, there are a few ICOs that have been scam recently but I believe it will soon die in 2019

Not all initial coin offerings (ICOs) are trash as some people may see it. Although there are scam projects and other ones run by inexperienced team which eventually end up unsuccessful, there are good ICOs which are up to task and delivering both the services of cryptocurrency and their products. There are countless projects which used ICOs yet became successful on the market. All that matters is the ability of an investor to research into these new ICOs in order to ascertain which one is authentic.

Not all are useless Initial Coin Offering but just like what you have said that 80% of them were created just for collecting funds. There are still ICOs that are well established for a long time because of their great platforms and projects.

ICOs are gradually phasing off as a result of the scam that people have decided to perpetrate through the ICO process and then no trace is ever discovered hence the need for ICO to be trashed. what is trendy now is the IEO and also the STO but personally i prefer IEO as they give more confidence to the investors.

The opinion that all ICOs are erroneous rubbish, because every year we have to observe somewhere a dozen of normal projects that have succeeded!

This market started good with ICO’s before but since the market is dumping, almost all the ICO’s are also losing their chance to enter in the market even if they are good. This is just a matter of time, and later on strong projects will come in to compete and it can make the trust issue becomes positive again with ICO. 

Not all,there are some projects made the investors rich as well but most of the projects in 2018 and later are still trash because they can't find enough investors for then due to this long bear run but the conditions will change when the bull run begins.

Yes, everyone is disappointed with the ICO project because of a lot of fraud. However, not all ICO projects are garbage. I personally can still follow a good ICO project and produce tokens. But the price is still low, we must be patient because the price is definitely recovering. And coins must be kept for a long time until the market recovers.

unfortunately it is true this year there was only a few of good ico, perhaps this type of funding for the various start-up no longer works, just hope that the situation improves with the new sto

Maybe the present market scenario have provided with such a worse case with the initial coin offerings. Long ago it has provided with the best, I don't know whether I'm true or not. 2017 seems to be the golden year for initial coin offering. Those who were part of that by then has profited big now.

I do not agree that all Initial Coin Offerings are Trash. There are excellent projects with promising coins that showed very high rates of price increase. I am sure such positive examples will be in the future.

The year of ICO’s are gone now, and we can’t say if there’s a new era for this or none. 2019 still a bad year for ICO but hopefully they can survive. Let’s not give too much words to those real project, they still deserve this
market, its just a bad year for them time will be back in good trend soon.

I disagree with that. Good projects come out on the market. It’s just that there are a lot of bad projects on the market, and the market itself has been falling all year. People are afraid to invest in new projects.

I understand your point and pains but I still find it hard to believe all ICOs are trash. Yes there are mnay scam projects but in the same way there are little or minority of good ICOs.

ETH was an ICO aswell , it was trash ? I don't think so. Waves was ICO , did it was trash ? Not at all. Before you  make statements like this you should not make it general. New ICO's are dying and this is nothing new but from time to time, a shiny ICO or STO will come alive so this is the main reason of why you should always search for good ICO's.

ICOs are trash because people are blindly investing in any project with a hope to get at least some profit. It is a very long process of every investment decision and if you spend several hours by checking each project, you would invest in 1 from 20.

New ico are not giving any solid project and telling that they will deliver many new thing which is not giving by any another ico but ready to sell the coin and collecting money from investors. An after that they are not performing well according to the investors expectations because they not eligible to do that.  So all ico are losing faith of investors and trashing.

now ICO is indeed very bad, making many people lazy to invest in the ICO and choose trade as a way to make more money because if investing in the ICO requires us to be very patient at least until the token has an exchange and has a high volume and price.

I do not think that all ICOs are not trash. I think that some projects will become successful. If all the ICO fails, this will prove that public investment for non-professional investors is a bad idea.

I know if not all ICO is trash but if it is measured by number 10, the value is 8 out of 10. This means that currently there is more ICO are trash and the rest only little not a lot which is a real and legitimate project as you say. so I think that's true if ICO is trash.

Most now,Yes, and plus this is a trend that's been going on,she adds Maslov agony,and it turns out that the project initially was normal,and happened then was either a Scam or bent in such a market,that so much action is happening now

It's usually more than 8. 5 out of 10 are scams or projects intended to make money for devs and nothing else. Another 4 out of 10 are projects that are weak, bugged, get abandoned by devs somewhere along the way, get delisted because there's no interest. Only 10% ever get to stay in the space and even this doesn't mean they are going to be there next year.

If ICOs are not going to work again, because they are being flooded by scam projects, I think we should give some trials to STO, perhaps that will birth a new era of trust.
One of he reasons I am drawn or attracted to STO, is because they bare back by laws, they are regulated and in a way, investors' interests are protected. Although, they should be for a true STO, which is why we need to do our own research.

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Not like that, I will not consider all ICO projects are junk. Despite everything it relies upon the accomplishment as though they achieved their objective like atleast top. The hardest part today is that it is unpedictable in the event that it will succeed. I am hesitant to lose cash so I am not used to contribute on it.


I simply earned tokens that are not accessible on trade that is the reason I can say that, truly, some are alright however most are tricks.

At the moment, a lot of coins that are really useless. But we must learn to choose quality projects for investment. This is our main task.

In my  opinion, I don't subscribe to the notion that "All ICOs are trash". When a careful  analysis is made on the market, you would realise that most of the altcoins that are doing very in terms of market value and dominance come out through successful initial Coin Offerings. At the end of the day, investors of successful projects always smile.

Yes, all ICOs are a bull shit. Most of them doesn't suggest something special. You know, token is something unpredictable and I bet you can easily lost money in ICO

It is not correct to say that all ICO's are trash and many investors got decent returns from some ICO's but approx. 90% of it are trash or take investors’ money and gone. This is the main reason that now many ICO's are not able to achieve their targets and closing before its final launch.

What do you want! There are many scammers in the world who are attracted by big money, and for them it is easy money, especially since there is almost no risk of being caught.

Of course, and greedy people prefer short-term investments but quickly bring them big money. That makes the scam projects more and more. But now I find that such scam ICOs cannot be successful, they are easily recognized as a scam project

I am beginning to see more reasons for research and more of it mist especially.
You do not just invest in a project by looking at it in a shallow way or because you see others investing in it.
So many projects are turning out to scam investors, which is why we need to device ways to identify the good ones.

Identifying the good ones is not hard if we will just invest on the existing coins.
No to ICO this time, it's too risky, more scams will lead to less investors and even if you invested in good coins, it will not right away give good result.

Based on your calculation all ico are not scammed there are lot of ico right now is good and for long-term legit for sure it will take advance in the future as well.

I also want to say that not all ico seem bad. What you say is true, there are still many good ico and I see for myself how good ico works. So we can't say that all ico are junk. You can analyze and judge for yourself.

A LOT OF ICOs are garbage, that's right, but definitely not ALL.
As others have already said, in the cmc Top 100 you will also find many projects that started with an ICO.

ICOs are still a common way to raise funds. Don't think that's gonna change in the near future.

In this case, I wanted much the old school bounty program which are paying weekly cryptocurrency. Rathen than choosing ICO which just tease people and hunters but pays nothing.

maybe it's true but it's really thin that only a few of them might be able to produce but it's just a lie if ico is successful but there is no price in the market, the current market situation is not supportive for the ico project. need patience in facing current market conditions

Fortunately, now there is a new trend in the ICO market, large exchanges are opening their sites for crowdsales. Against the background of the success of ICO from Binance, I believe that investors and trust in projects will return to the market, as the exchanges are independently engaged in the selection of ICO.

There are some ICO right now that are talking about the bright future with their project and yet they are still not listed on any exchange, and no value at all so this is the reason why investors losses their trust. Not all are trash but for sure some of them experience a hard time to collect money, so they failed and become a scam project later on. Some good project succeeds, i hope they stay long in this market.

Not all ICO is s a trash even majority are, we can't generalized and categorized them all as a trash remember Bittorent is an ICO which facilitated by binance and it is successful in just only few minutes it was completed so  i think its just on how you find a good ICO  to invest though majority is a trash there are still few that stand and profitable.

Not all of them are, there are some very good ones out there but because a lot of icos have scammed people it gives all icos a bad name.

The bear market is the first reason why ICOs fail and OP calls them trash. Treating reliable projects along with really trash ICOs is not pleasant. Worthless tokens have no real-life use case and making token sale have on purpose: Make more money.

its not about ICO all trash
you just can't find the right one, even the right one is just like 1:100 ICO out of there
but then there is potential ico out of there

not all shit. but on average it's not quality. but I'm still sure, even though only 1% must have a good project right now, so keep on believing.

I won't agree with that statement that all ICO are dam shit.
Although, most of all ico offering are scam but they're still some than successful at the end. What you need to do is to make your research on any project you wanted to buy it's ICO.

I think new projects are not so bad. Now there are many interesting projects that should soon enter the market. I think that spring 2019 will be very interesting.

We cannot blame people to thinking ico as a trash because everyday more and more icos project are being launch in the market and its difficult to find a legit project, let say its legit in the beggining but how abiut in the future?
And yes there still few icos that have a potential to shone in the market but its a small percentage.

Even by the days of 2017 ico's weren't worth it. It was little better than the present market situation, and the bull market gave a good profit through these ico's. As cyclic process repeats, can expect similar growth as the market in 2017. Even now worth projects with good utility have been getting into the market. Investing on those in the right way gets the best out of the same long term.

ico didnt profitable anymore since too much beginer investors and beginer bounty hunter.their attitude in market make another people panic moreover while token price dropped alot in market.maybe someday there is no one support ico and only existing coins could survive in this market.

It's bad to blame bounty about the failure of ICO.
Most investors are not aware of the bounty hunters, maybe they only know it as a advertising expense in general, with that
the team needs to pay for the advertising, and bounty hunters may anytime sell their reward.

Their reward were reduced when the market is bad, so they are also affected.

I do not think it is correct to name all ICOs as trash - of course, there are too many scam ICOs today, but there are still worthy projects which will reach top 100 CMC in the future.

not everything is bad so don't consider it bad and unprofitable.
we must check first so that we understand and be confident so that in the end we can get good results.
not all ICOs are garbage so you don't despair or fear participating in the ICO.
for more details, you know first before choosing it.

Because of the scam ICO's out there, ICO's are being generalized as scam already. I don't think I agree with this. Yeah most of the ICO's out there are scam because of lack of support from the investors, lack of funds or lack of development coming from the team.

There are some ICO's out there that are not scam and I think its not good that we generalized all the ICO's. There are some reasons why it becomes a scam.

I agree to this but its not definitely all ICOs are scam. There are still good ICO projects that are not scam but just didn't collect the enough funds to make it continue so it stop and return the funds to investors. But the point is that 4 out of 5 are scams.

maybe the percentage for coins that is really good is only a few percent of the many offers that are a fraud that exists today. I also feel very disappointed with those who are not serious about ico

Well i can't say no to this, yes most of the ICOs are trash but there are still some ICO that is legit and real. The ratio is like 1:10 lol. Since ICOs booming in 2017-2018, many new ICOs pop out everyday and most of them are trash like as you said.

Yes, it is absolutely right that all Initial Coin Offerings are trash. No ICO can be trusted in today's day. Because now the situation has become such that people thought all ICO sense now cheating. But not all ICO scam again. There is a good ICO of 100 fake ICOs. Before investing in ICO, you have to be very careful and have to verify the ICO White Paper well. And I would say it is better not to invest in ICO.

Thank you

Not all but most of them are. They are just using these ICO thing to just collect money. Most of there platforms are impossible to achieve. And because of many unnecessary things they are doing like scamming, stealing, running away funds, the reputation of most ICOs are already ruined.

even though there are currently a lot of ICO projects that only commit fraud, you cannot mention that all ICO projects are garbage, some of which still get trust from investors and end successfully.

This is not true. STOs and IEOs are the parts of Initial Coin Offerings and they are representing its better version. These token offerings are going to be very successful during the next several months and will give great profit.

There are different options about the ICOs. But even though I am not sure that thinking that every ico is a scam is right. Some projects are good, but now it is not the best time for investing

Having a general opinion regarding one theme is not a rational way to deal with it. Regarding failed ICOs i believe the cause of losing money is of the people who do not collect the right infos regarding the campaign.

yes, not only because there are some coins that become trash at the beginning of the offer and make you claim that all the coins are the same because each project has a different investor and team and moves in their respective fields so the potential for progress is different
but the main ingredients depend on how the team processes the coins.

I don't agree with that even though 90% of the  ICOS this days are scam but there is still few of the ICO that delivered what they have promise to deliver. Is  necessary for the team to raise fund because I believe that is what they will you yo finance the project.

Yes, even those launched on binance like Fetch ai and on bitmax look trashy. To my mind we should do something about that.
Personally I don't even estimate ICOs, I just enter in each launchpad because there is hype

Everyone already knows that 90% of ICO is garbage. But when people understand how to choose the right ICO scammers come out of this industry and everything will be fine.

I may agree with you with that but i think not all ico are trash. It primary depends on the team, at first we can't predict if that ico is going useless or not. Sometimes i get tired with this ico because some are not legit and it's hard to have a good return this day but it does not stop me. Just have a little patience in icos and maybe we can have another run for it.

You're right not all of those ico is trash, some of them doesn't meet the goals of the project that's why ico investors seem to be afraid of another new coming projects. The crowd funds didn't achieve a good sales, so no funds can be raised to support the trading of the new crypto offering. Last 2018, more ico participants were frustrated and until now they've been hoping it will eventually recover from really slow ico development.

We can't simply say all the ICOs were trash because there were lot of successful tokens were created from this method but in the recent days even the good project failed to reach the goals just because of more scam projects took money from investors which made us to think it is not worth to invest anymore.

I know this. There are some people out there who are generalizing all of the ICO's are trash. There are some factors in order for an ICO to become a success.

Investors will play a huge role in an ICO because it will give fuel for the project to develop. No investors = no money therefore, no funds for the project to continue making it a trash. Another is the team itself, are they updating every day or every week. Are they active. If not then we can say that the ICO is a trash.

There are some ICO's out there who isn't trash and now continuing their project for the good of the people.

yes not all ICO is bad and not profitable.
we don't assume that all projects will fail, not all of them and we must be smart in choosing so that the project we choose can work well.
ICO can still produce good results and still be able to grow, if only there are good reforms to facilitate ICO networks so that many are successful.
if fraud will decrease and things will get good and the market starts to rise again, of course many will join the ICO.

I can say 80% of ICO that are being carried out today are all scams, but I can't say all ICO are scam because the truth is that I actually gained huge amount of money from some ICO tokens I made purchase of in 2017. One of this coin I made purchase is ETH, we all know that ETH was one of the first coin to begin the ICO movement and sold it's coin at a cheap rate during the ICO period and as we all know, the price of ETH went to as high as $1000 in 2017 making me a lot of profit. Another coin I also benefited from is NEO.

There are decent ICOs out there with good ideas. It is true that many of the ICOs failed last year due the
market situation and other reasons but it does not automatically mean that they all were scam projects.

ICO in 2017 was a mere bubble and now the bubble is burst. That period may never come again be cause those 2017 ICOs did nothing after raising those huge sums of monies which has taught us a lesson as to invest in ICOs or not.

I don't quite agree with you. Among all this garbage can be found worthy projects. The sad thing is that even promising projects fail because of Scam the investors are not doveryaut ICO.

Many good ICO with good project and solid developers team got affected because many scam ICOs in 2018. I am agree many good ICO worth to invest. I think we should not generate all ICOs scam, there is still many good ICOs with promising project

I do not agree, scammers and a flawed model cause this belief, new structure in ICO's is needed to week out the garbage, escrow and multi phase ICO's are needed.

Most ICOs scam happen in 2018. 2017 is good year for ICOs investor because the price after listing in exchanger increase and give big profits, but during bear market in 2018, many ICOs fails reach sales target and the price drop when listed in exchanger

Surely not all, maybe some people call it a trash because they only based on the short term price action.
Of course it cannot be denied that lately ICO is not profitable to invest anymore, especially for short term investors, but this will recover as the market recovers.

Most projects after successful revenue collection at the ICO lost the incentive for further development, because the amounts they collected were indecently huge. Big money and no liability this is the main reason for the failure of the ICO.

only a small part is really serious and the rest is just a fraud, I am very disappointed with what is happening now where there are many losses felt by investors due to the many frauds in ico

Many now say that ICO is not good for investment. But from all ICOs, of course not all of our ICOs say it's not good or garbage. Actually there are still a lot of me that I have good and potential ICO in the future. So I can't say ICO is garbage.

Not all ICO's are trash but a lot of ICO's are not doing up to the mark but still, good ICO's with the solid project is coming and we have to do some research and find out. Market conditions are not favorable for the last year and people have burnt their hands after putting money in the ICO.

All ICO are not trash. Some of the scammed projects are trash and some projects which didn't propagate are trash, but not all of them. Just read the white paper and project team and chances for trash ICO will be less.

I made a lot of money off of ICOs in 2017.
A lot of my colleagues did too.
The thing is, we dealt with ICOs using a very specific trading strategy.

We were solely going for the quick flip and saw ICOs as a way to substantially increase our capital.
This meant that the bigger the bubble, the bigger the hype the better.
I looked for hype factor, token metrics, exchanges listing feasability and also how to get the maximum discount through presales or group purchases.
I did 11 ICOs in 2017 and each one I sold it off right away when I could.
On average I tripled my investments and in one case (appcoins) managed to get 6x profit.
The only ICO I got screwed over with was Titanium.
That was a greedy error on my part because I was fully ready to sell it off for double profit when it hit exchanges.
But I thought I'd wait until I could get 4 to 5x profit.

It ended up being shut down completely for being a scam lol.

Yeah I miss 2017, I guess bearish market are affect into ICO project, because the project receive contribute in Crypto such ETH, so maybe a lot of ICO in 2018 and 2019 has been loss, then they're decide to delay their roadmap or stop it although they were reached the Softcap.

There are many scam on icos this periods which is why is looked like scam. I have seen many projects put up a lot of fake claims just to woe investors to invest on its stupid projects

It is not right to say that all ICOs are trash. These assumptions are not based on real statistics, they are just  statements of those who were scammed or had bad investment experience.
I know that many  ICOs struggling  or scamming people , but not all.

After the end of bull market way back to 2017, some things changed to worst. Decreased prices caused more pressure on the prices and this pressure made us nervous.

But that's not for some icos that were listed on the binance instantly. those icos can make a lot of money instantly and they can leave from the pressure that happened in the market. But the bearish trend was giving a lot of pressure for us especially ico.

Agree, after market reach peak value, many people trying to scam people by creating their own ICOs and not legit project. They just want to steal peoples money and makes crypto images became negative. I dont think all ICOs are scam because many success in market after listing on exchanger

Sorry to say, Not all the ICO is a scam. In 2017, people call it a golden year for the ICO but if 80% of ICOs were a scam then this is really shocking news. I think at this moment Some ICOs are doing well, we need to support only those ICOs which has a real-life use or a product! At this moment, I like some ICO Projects like Livenpay, Windhash and of course Haratoken! They already have a real life using customers with active clients. I know the most of the ICO has no value at all, but some are really doing well!

as developer works on preparation to comes with use on possession to gives with reference of product and service with the deliverance on notables with the terms of initial offering, the details with the investors decision helps on extensive as use with supports on exchange to returns with  chance on working on plan with the projects as use with drawing on movement of progress with the continuous development.

It is true that most initial coin offering can be seen as scam but I do not accept the saying that all ICO are scam, even though so many are struggling to survive, there are still some that scaled through and was a success.

But after all, most of the coins that are now in the top 10 conducted Initial Coin Offerings. Maybe not all of them are trash?

I can't say otherwise,in 2017 ICO is the best for all investors and it was a big part why we have more investors in crypto space but now every single one of these ICO projects are worthless,i really pitied those who invested alot on ICO projects,even this year i promoted an ICO project that looks and feel so real like its different but in the end its all trash,its time for ICO to be gone for good

Unfortunately, nowadays it seems right, because 90 percent of all ICOs that are live at the moment are ending scam or switching their fundraising method, because they are not able to collect funds. We need more projects that are already offering some working decentralised solutions.

Very huge truth in this I must say, most of the projects nowadays are complete junks and redundant at best with over imaginable and unachievable whitepapers. These projects present the perfect whitepaper only to lure unsuspecting investors to their ICOs and end up feeding them garbage products at the end of the day with little or no substance. It's quite an unfortunate and sad situation.

You correctly say that the majority, since the creator writes that everything is rubbish, I do not agree with this at all, because if you take the choice seriously, you can find a worthy project that will show itself in the future. Simply, most projects are waiting for a good market to enter it.

There were some solid projects that came through initial coin offerings, but that was long ago. ICOs have not only been seen as scam, but are outright shit coins that will not last long. Whether we like it or not, we might not see IcCO come back again and if anything of such should emerge, it will be a waste of time and resources on the part of the developers, because people will not accept it.

The only reason why you think that all are scams is because you have never knew more than 10 project at any given time. And I bet that for you to even remember names of them, you have to go to cmc to see their names.

it is a fact that a lot of ICO's are scam or failed by other reason's last time but in the past there where absolute very good project's who still excist , think the gold period is gone , but if you search enough you will find that 1

This is a very strong allegation that I am almost tempted to disregard but when I consider how many ICOs that I can remember back in 2017, I discover that many of them are no longer in existence. They have been delisted from coinmarketcap. Their telegram groups have been abandoned and now taken over by spammers without mercy. Websites too are down. There is truth in it that most ICOs were actually scam

In order for ICO to be successful, coins should be in demand and really should be used by people. Do not just keep it as an investment, but use it for everyday purposes. Who said that Bitcoin is successful? Bitcoin is not successful, it's just expensive.

It is not jus ICO
Some old coins like DeVCoins have admins stealing coins by changing system of rewards

I strongly agree with your statement, that 2018 & 2019 is the worst year for an ICO project in the history of cryptoqurrency world, almost 70% of ICO projects are rubbish. 20% of projects failed because the product could not work properly and 10% many difficult tokens were listed on the exchange and when listed the price dropped drastically as if they were dead. this is what I feel

Funny that this thread is almost a year old and yet here we are at the end of 2019 and people continue to be fooled by these scamming project devs and bounty hunters continue to advertise for them, sometimes getting scammed themselves.  There's going to be no resolution to this until people stop falling for the same tricks time after time.  Doesn't anyone involved in ico's learn from their mistakes?  Is it greed?

I doubt that's the reason at all.  I have never seen so many scam accusations against ico's as in 2019.  It is true that I don't know how many projects are being launched at any given time, but I do know that there shouldn't be *that* many of them pulling scams.  There also hasn't been one that I've heard of which has been ground breaking in its tech or with its real world applications.  Show me one, please.

ICO was just a transition that was in trend for sometime. Some good projects came out of it, such today are still existing and people  were glad they invested in them. Although, most of them were scam and the reason for there to be a new form of investment, that investors find secured to do.

The number of scam cases is certainly the biggest factor that makes investors afraid to put their money in ICO, now it is too difficult to get a good ICO like 2017 so investors prefer to buy top rank coins like bitcoin, ripple, dash and so on.

The number of ICO scams that occur will affect investor confidence in investing and this also has an impact on new projects that want to raise funds. But with IEO, a good new project will definitely go this way because it is equally profitable between the investor and the developer team.

The idea that all ICOs are trash is false. Most of the big projects and coins we see on the market today are kind courtesy of ICOs. However, there is time and season for everything and as technology and developments advance, new strategies and ways of doing things come into the seen and this is why ICOs have been overtaken by IEOs.

I do not agree with the statement that all current ICO projects are garbage. Of course, there are a lot of fraudulent projects, we can’t do without it, because everyone is allowed to participate in this process and there is a great opportunity to raise large amounts of money, however there are good and useful projects that offer very interesting innovative solutions or simply will be useful to people . This is life and there is a place for scammers and honest people. Our task so far is to learn how to correctly distinguish scammers from good projects.

Yes, last good icos were in 2018.
In 2019 all intresting projects are doing IEO

I don't think all ico is deceptive, but I also agree that many people say that the majority of ico is trash. I myself have tried to save and trade with one of the coins that just emerged from an ico project. and finally destroyed, most newly emerging coins cannot maintain a positive price trend from the initial release of the coins in the crypto market. all of this makes people or investors lack trust in all the new ico coins that appear. I myself feel that the feeling of worry in holding a new ico coin appears greater than holding the top 10 coins. and it's better not to keep it for a long time, before we regret it in the end.

if you see the history of many coins successfully developed starting from the ICO but for the current project they are not able to prove that the ICO project will provide benefits and the security they have provided cannot yet be maximized and therefore the development of IEO is starting to be in demand. so to say that ico is Trash  you should read some of the history that exists about ICO

Apart from scam projects since 2018 many good projects still fail due to the market condition, i would have say all developers should halt their project launch till 2020 for better fund raising and profits, good market season is good for new projects

Craving for ICO has ended because majority of them turn out to be a scam/fraud project and now investors are losing interest in participating in any type of token offering whether it is STO or IEO. Nowadays new projects is having a hard time to raise funds due to the bad history of ICO even if the project is good and have a real-life use.

very true guys. Most ICOs are just scams. Fundraising does not make sense for the cost of their projects which only offer written concepts without realizing. in fact, ICO's early beginnings were a success. have a clear project. but seeing the situation. many scammers take advantage of this situation, individually or in groups. they trap investors with promises on white paper or roadmaps. and take advantage of the opportunity of the beginner investor's greed. so the next ICO is to be bad and unbelievable. no ICO is currently successful with the project and the price of their coins / tokens.

The problem with most ICOs stem from the accessibility of people creating fake ICOs and scamming people in the forum. I personally have spotted and busted a number of fake ICOs with their fake credentials and plagiarized whitepapers in the ANN section and it saddens me that some of the potentially good projects are overshadowed by this very fact.

95% of the ICOs are rubbish, only a few have their products. whereas in the media it has been widely reported that ICO is a concept of fraud, but there are still many people to invest they are too stupid.

As i say not all ICO are scam, but ICo becom less trust as many of them are scam (not all), invest in IEO whatever the exchange will be more save

There are currently thousands of currencies with no market value, or very small values. ICO projects are trying to develop, but it seems that the effort is not bearing fruit because investors have no great confidence in ICO projects.

People what is wrong with you? Do you still believe in ICO projects? I'm in the last year has seen only one project which could be justified. A huge number of projects were good only before the listing on the stock exchange and after that they were closed. Over the past 2 years, the number of people who made a mistake is very huge. Because of scam ICO, people are leaving this industry. I propose to ban the ICO or make it mandatory presentation of KYC organizers.