Bitcoin Forum

Hello guys !

I am happy to present, to my knowledge, the first forum using Epochtalk ! :)

A few days ago, I learned that a new version of this forum was being developed.

After some research, I learned that the project was open-source.

Being a web developer myself, I thought, why not start using the project, in order to help with debugging ?

It's done !

I named this forum www.cryptos-currencies (https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/).

So to make it simple, this forum has as its first objective to help in the development / debugging of the Epochtalk project. And for that, I focused the forum around Cryptos-Money in general.

Launch topic : https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/threads/5MjVFFOsTtGQNvwIBuxm3A/posts?start=1

Important information :


If you are interested in testing it, don't hesitate !

P.S : Sorry for my bad English, I don't speak realy good English ;)

Great,

How can we get access to the modlog and the seclog? I tried to find it but without success til now.

I'll use this thread to write my review on Epochtalk later. :)

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My overview > Updated 03.03.



Bugs/issues
1.  Notifications  for mentions are triggered after a certain amount of time.  That is OK .
2. After Marking the notifications  " all read" there is still pending old notification. 
3.  Toolbar menus for posting  are missing . I guess it's intended.
4.  Trust feedback cannot be changed or removed after posting it. I guess there is some cool down time, but should be mentioned somewhere on the page.
5. Seems like the view count is not working .
6. There are no "post drafts" after a preview of a post.
7. Self-moderated thread is actually not a self moderated. You cannot delete posts. Actually you can hide them but the user can unhide them so it is useless.
8 . Some symbols are not displayed at all like asterisk. If you have it in the signature, it disappears.
9. No post count option.
10. cannot delete posts in self-moderated threads, can only hide them - i guess it's intentional.
11. No ranks yet.
12. No restriction in posting and searching, maybe due to no ranking system yet.
13. I cannot move topics in different sections

Side note: I guess big part of those issues can be corrected/activated  from the admin panel. I have no access to confirm that.


What caught my attention /no issues/ :
Activity stops at 14. I guess the algorithm is working.

What I like :


1. You can choose to report user or post, I like it :)
2. Easy to add users to the trust list,  separate  buttons to trust and untrust lists, cool.
3.  Nice mobile version

Hmm,

If I'm not mistaken, the logs are not publicly available ( To check ) ^^

Here we access them through those links and they are Please do, because with the current version of the forum they are publicly available you can access them from here:
Link to modlog: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Link to seclog: https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Hmm, I understand your request, but the only logs I have are the Moderation log :

https://i.luwe.fr/a723d323.png

I don't know if I can give access to everyone to this page ( For the security ) ::)

- View counts not calculating/working.
- PM/DM reply notification part - okay test with @iasenko.
- Signature not showing/visible. I can only see my own signature.
- Can't see some functions on Starting new topic.
- Tried display name - nothing happened.

+ PM/DM is cool.
+ Okay on reporting part: Report user/post.
+ Member search - Okay as of the moment

I think the notification needs to be checked, as also mentioned by @iasenko
https://i.imgur.com/UuICrqq.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/UuICrqq.png)

Date on quote error:
https://i.imgur.com/nfzcdI0.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/nfzcdI0.png)

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If people are having a problem with their registration, try using a dummy yahoo email address. Account confirmation is fast using ymail.
 
https://i.imgur.com/xuoTPob.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/xuoTPob.png)

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EDIT:
Post deleted message is visible to ordinary users.
https://i.imgur.com/jiMA2d6.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/jiMA2d6.png)

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EDIT:
Can't see move topic/thread function, only lock thread.
https://i.imgur.com/PmXFJGr.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/PmXFJGr.png)

Not sure where the bugs and such are best reported, and they may not be bugs but parametrization features or functional oddities. Maybe best in both places. For now, there is a thread on the referenced website, and as @theyoungmillionaire has done, I'll post mine here (trying not to report what others have already done):


Some of the apparent bugs we may find could have to do with system configuration, as perhaps there are parameters that can be set by the Admin to customize the environment such as lack of edit tool bar, post max. size, etc.  At this point, bugs and lack of functionality (compared to current Bitcointalk) may be confused. I'll try to skip reporting things that have already been mentioned.

These are a few I’ve found so far:

1) Copy/paste post from Bitcointalk seems to confront size limitations-> post is trimmed to around 600 words out of 1285 of the OP.

2) Screen width is not taken into account as much as on the Bitcointalk site: posts here are cropped by around 25% on my screen (wide 4k). Also zooming in to screen on Bitcointalk redistributes post text accordingly, while here it does not do it if you shrink the screen size (it does if you enlarge the screen a lot).

3) Some text with spaces that displays aligned on Bitcointalk does not here. Possibly due to the default text font being different (when I copy text into word from this site it displays as “lato”, whilst being “calibri” when doing the same from Bitcointalk).

4) When I try to snip  in a quote the way I normally do it  (less than + 2 dots+ greater than), the preview and post actions delete the snip.  That is weird, and when importing all Bitcointalk could be an issue.

5) I can edit my profile UserName. That seems to be the PK to each user.  If I can change it, that could be troublesome (let alone for scraping and joining data, but that is a lesser issue from the forum's perspective).

6) Although already mentioned, not being able to delete a post, but only hide it is weird.

7) (minor issue) “Code” embraced areas seem to add a few blank lines on its own will, making the code area larger than necessary.

8 ) (minor issue) Direct urls  are sometimes converted to hyperlinks and others not (dictionary based?).

9) “Too many request” appear twice on screen. We are not many concurrent users, so it’s strange to see it.

10) Imported someone’s small pyramid quote. Displays fine but dates are wrong and relative to 1970.

11) Created 15 posts. I deleted one of them, and @iasenko another on a self-moderated thread. Nevertheless, my activity shows as 14 (not 13 as I expected). Also there is no post count. Post deletion seems to hide posts, but perhaps it is not adjusting Activity properly.

12) While on my profile, my post history has a very small thread title space (so it tends to appear trimmed).

13) There is no post number in the personal post history. If there are campaigns, counting posts will be a bit more difficult in relation to how it is done on Bitcointalk.

14) In addition, post history is only relative to thread, but we do not see the path to the thread as we currently do on bitcointalk (section/subsection/etc.).

15) I can see a post of mine on two pages of the paging of a given thread. If I change the setting to allow 50 post per page (instead of 25), then the post only shows once as it should. The post is last on the first page of the thread (post number 25 - if there were a number), and second on the following page (post number 27 - if there were a number).

16) Management of deleted posts seems a bit of a mess. A post of mine was deleted on a self-moderated thread. Nevertheless, I was still able to unhide it, edit it and quote it.

17) In the Notification menu, marking one or all as read does not refresh their status until you actually refresh the page itself.

18) This seems odd. I received 3 PMs from one single user (ok), but the Reply I create does no reference, nor let me decide, which of the three PMs I'm replying to.


In addition, without it being bug related:

-    Since profiles are not by ID but by username, a priori, you cannot create a process to download say all forum profiles, amongst other things. It could also bring on some difficulties related to mapped character tables on those names with “weird” characters in them.

-    To gain access to the content of all posts from his history, you need to click each thread header from the list. Scraper can do that conceptually, but it may deem a complication.

-    PostId is a weird looking string, but the current one was not much use either if you wanted to retrieve all posts from a thread for example. You still need to scrape the hard way instead of through a correlative set of IDs.

Edit: 20190317:

19) (functionality) I can Deactivate/Reactivate my account, and that hide my account and all my posts from the forum: Good for the user, bad for the forum ?

20) After browing notifications, you need to refresh the page for the new notification counter to disappear.

Hi!
Q: email confirmation message how fast does it come? I've been waiting 15 minutes - still no.

Check your spam folder. Mine was there and I would have skipped it had @Iasenko not warned me that it is being detected as spam.

Yes, it is! The message was in the spam!

@DdmrDdmr -> Thanks you for this feeback, I'll see what I can do ;)

@Alex_Sr -> Oh, yes, it's a problem from the mail sender ( Not sure ) ::)

I think the final bug report we can post on GitHub so the developers can fix them.
Of course big part of them are probably some settings in the admin panel and actually they are not really bugs.

Please post bugs as github issues.

BTW, there is an extensive API (http://epochtalk.org/api.html) which you guys may be interested in, eg. https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/api/posts/QNgQeVnFT5S1l6LLTZqsYg

This is what I intend to do after a few days of operation of the forum ;)

Shall we report every single issue as a separate report or like DdmrDdmr has done (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/500#thread-subscription-status), one issue report with a list of everything he found out til now?
Posting a list will save us a lot of time but creating a post for every issue will be easier for the devs I guess.

Can anyone confirm that this old SMF bug (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1813031.msg18069362#msg18069362) has been resolved in the new version of the forum?
Maybe I'll try it soon. :-X

If you find time, it would be interesting for someone to try it out in Arabic, since so far the test sections created are English, French and Russian. I figure you need to contact @lulucrypto to create the corresponding board structure.@Halab has already created an Arabic structure on the test site.

Page navigation currently has little stress (my off-topic thread there currently has only 3 pages of posts, with a default of 25 posts per page (although you can configure it to any value between 10 and 100 as a personal setting).

I found out that I can't leave my Trust Settings empty and remove DefaultTrust. Steps to reproduce:
1. Go to Trust Settings (https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/settings/trust)
2. Choose "DefaultTrustList" and click "Remove Selected"
3. Click on "Save Trust Settings"
4. I see "DefaultTrustList" again.

I think it's the same here in bitcointalk, If you leave your trust list empty, DT is added by default.
If you try to put someone in the list and remove the DT it will work.

Hello. I noticed that if you edit an avatar from a computer, then the second time you can edit an avatar only by URL.

https://i.imgur.com/z5RbbzZ.png

Update: This option appears if you log out of the account and log in.

https://i.imgur.com/tvIr4Qz.png

Is this supposed to be a bug? I think it shows where the avatar was stored on the server side.

Just found a bug in the arabic setion

here is how i typed the post

https://i.imgur.com/QCzEdao.png


this is how it looks

https://i.imgur.com/geHkMeo.png



everything that is on the left side of the English verse must be shifted to the right and the opposite is also true.

Hello, everyone !

Tonight, I took the time to start reporting :D

- Problem with Arabic texts : https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/501
- Detection problem on URL's : https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/502
- Problem with HTML tags : https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/503
- Smileys problem : https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/504
- Problem, user who can re-display a message in self : https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/505

Some suggestions :
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/506

Well, I'm far from finished, but I'm doing my best with the time I have ;)

Hey I love the idea of people using epoch for their new forums, I will try look around from time to time, also, you have an extra S on the domain, it should be crypto-currencies but your choice I guess :P.

I really hope to not see any kind of obvious scam coin promoted or endorsed in your forum, atleast till you have enough traffic to not be able to control it.

Thank you, I will try to better control this forum, do not worry :D

If anyone is interested, @akinsey (Epochtalk team) has started to process the bug queue, adding comment to some of those that have been reported and assigning some of them to his team to tackle (see https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues).

Bugs are best reported on a one by one basis (I reported mine as a Batch), but the Epochtalk team seems to dissect the bugs reports if they are already in a Batch format.

This is a good news,
I have to post my bugs sometime soon. I already made e account on github.
So better to have a different case for each bug. I'll do it ASAP.
Been busy the last few weeks....

Some of the issues I reported are fixed, and likely need some software update on the Cryptos-Currencies site in order for us to see the fix applied. Some other issues are queued with a priority, whilst others require further input on our behalf which the Epochtalk team will ask for if required.

Yeah I just checked the last " conversation " between two of you. I guess Lulu is aware of the change and can update the forum software so we can continue to search for bugs.

Hi!
I don't know why, but with Chromium (laptop running Linux Mint), the page can't stop refreshing itself:
https://youtu.be/97vh7kM6ucY
https://youtu.be/jKEKX7tcKAY
I tried to clear cache, without any effect.
With Firefox I don't have the problem.

Translate from my French post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115504.msg50329650#msg50329650) :

Good evening,

As said at the launch of this forum, the VPS of this one would be renewed only with the help of your donations.

Well it's done, I thank the two anonymous people who gave me the equivalent of +/- 25€ on the Bitcoin donation address ^^

https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/static/images/3153aa7084104ee849cf3255c939873e5304a8c7.png

https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/static/images/ab020e359f96dcd89df0c7567be3650807ad14e1.png

So for the sake of transparency, it is important for me to specify this :

I didn't directly sell the total present on the donation address, instead, I switched the BTCs to an address that serves as my long-term hold.

After that, I took 21.53€ from a recent customer's payment to pay for the VPS. That's it, I think it's important to clarify that.

To finish the final screen of the invoice :

https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/static/images/75e1aa3404f666d54b5b244ba1c4085beb689d8a.png

As indicated on the screen, the VPS is therefore renewed for 6 months :)

Here you go, I remind you of the addresses of donations if you wish to support the initiative :
- BTC : 1KhANqSrk323EScYehyR3xs3k5DvWZydGh (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1KhANqSrk323EScYehyR3xs3k5DvWZydGh)
- LTC : LR1AF7EB7zPaWoTjohkarCv1YyrfNcFovf (https://live.blockcypher.com/ltc/address/LR1AF7EB7zPaWoTjohkarCv1YyrfNcFovf/)
- ETH : 0xB43eb6dFF4FE452531f0f66C9b7e42000f0a22a3 (https://etherscan.io/address/0xB43eb6dFF4FE452531f0f66C9b7e42000f0a22a3)
- NEO : AX4WyKhdmJsicvkmHpinMq9DsuWKaGpWap (https://neotracker.io/address/AX4WyKhdmJsicvkmHpinMq9DsuWKaGpWap)

Thanks again to the people who gave, and who will give !

Note : Sorry not to be very active, these last few weeks are very busy for me ^^

See you soon !

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Hello,

Just a quick message to prevent that I updated the forum ^^

If you want to know more :

- https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/threads/Hcc_uC1KQ5yn-tU1xmzuHQ/posts

I do not have more time to develop for today, sorry ::)

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Hello,

Thanks for your Feedback, I will report it to the developer soon ^^

Hello,
I tried to use the new forum software few weeks ago.
I would like to suggest adding more boards for other languages to see how it works and if dev can add the systems implemented in the actual forum (trust system,merit system,...).
I know that it's technically hard and Very time consuming, but if with the help of other good volunteers, may be it will be important to test all those functionalities.

Why not stick with this software? It works fine. Developing entirely new software is a bit overkill as the market is already flooded with software anyway (SMF, phpBB, Xenforo, Burning Board, IPB, vBulletin, etc.).

You clearly don't care about updating software anyway considering you've completely ignored the fact that SMF 2.0 has been out for years...

Has anyone of you experienced a delay with the confirmation email?
I can't complete my registration due to the delayed email (it's been 30 minutes at the time of writing).
Yes, I've tried to look in Spam, Trash or Archive but there's nothing.

BTW, I used a non-gmail email account: spam.collector@randomace.tk <-you can send spam here.
There's no "re-send confirmation email" button anywhere either.

The actual forum software is smoothly running, and we are all satisfied with it. But it still has some lacks which aimed to be filled in the new software.
If you think the forum will be outly running with the new software and should be migrated to another existing one, please make a full description of your analysis and suggestions, then post it here (in this board).
Last note: the new software is yet in test stage and there is no real confirmation that the forum will migrate soon.

By checking the github repository, no one had reported this issue.
I registered two accounts without any delay with the email confirmation (i used protonmail for both of them). I suggest you to use a gmail account or yahoo...
It would be better if you report issues in GitHub: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues

I Like This Forum, But I recommend You forum needed more graphic quality. Graphic Quality not good

I already tried explaining the reason for sticking with SMF - users here are already familiar with it. If you move to a new system then everyone has to get used to how the new system works.

For example, there has been a request for a responsive/mobile-friendly layout. SMF 2.0.15 can do that with the Responsive Curve mod/theme and SMF 2.1 has that ability by default.

What benefits will this new software provide that an existing solution won't?

Tell me which languages you want to be added. I have the opportunity to do this and will do it as soon as possible, it's not very complicated to do.

How about "Re-send Confirmation Email" link or button after the "account not confirmed" heads up notification?

After 30 hours (since this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115500.msg50875631#msg50875631)), I still haven't received the confirmation email.
I checked every folder, still nothing; I double-check the registered email and it's correct.

A re-send button is a must as a solution to cases like this.

I can see two reasons for moving the forum:
1- Theymos started working on the new forum software since a long time (early 2013). At that time there was no upgraded versions of the forum's softwares. Spending a lot of money and time on it, we are still testing the epochtalk.
2- Vulnerability issue, as the forum DB has been hacked early in 2015, which required an urgent solution.
Read this:

Only russian, french, and arabic boards had been created. I guess adding boards for languages having special letters like Hebreu and Bengladesh...

It's indeed a good idea to test with languages using special letters. However, creating the boards are not much of a problem: as said it's quite easy, but then we need to find peopkle that are comfortable with these languages. It's already hard to find people speaking English on cryptos-currencies.com, so I believe it would be even harder with minor and difficult languages.

Yes, I had an issue at first, by just because it the confirmation email ended up in my spam folder (which barely happens, so I was not on the lookout for).

Bugs (or improvements) should be placed on the github thread (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues) in order for them to be formerly tackled, although leaving an inventory here may also help avoiding redundancy reports.

I have not created a new section for each new language, but I have created an "Other language" section where everyone can come and test Epochtalk.
If there are many participants from a language that does not have its section, I will create it at that time.

Hello,

A little message to thank Theymos very much and his donation in BTC :

https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/threads/N7bCRMBcR92pmkJqmYmnVw/posts

In addition to that, I updated the forum to the latest version, and took the opportunity to include the changelog ;)

See you soon !

@lulucrypto, the test site currently is not showing any stats anywhere, neither on a global scale such as https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats, nor on a personal scale such as the extinct general personal statistics (accessible from the user profile, but disabled since the last hack on the forum).

Any idea if there is a module or a parameter in Epochtalk that current may display this/any kind of statistics? Thanks.

I have seen a "posts over time" chart on an image here: http://epochtalk.org/index.html, as part of the profile information.

I am not going to be too much of a dick but you ket " 0.12561161 btc " for personal use? that's close to a $1000. With that money you can solidify your forum for the next 10 years and earn a thousand times more.
Also, the moment you implement a signature space, I will join your forum as well.
I have some dev skills, I'll be willing to lend a hand if you need it. But be warned, I criticize too much.

Hello,

I understand what you mean :D

After it was never specified the purpose of this donation, so of this principle, I consider it important to keep a little for the forum ( At least 2 years without problem ), and the rest I consider to be able to use it as I want.

Currently, I do not even know if the forum will last so long, I hope it will last longer, but it's not over at all.

Otherwise, thank you for your proposal, for the moment I do not have much time to work on it, to see in the weeks to come ;)

See you soon ;)

In that case that donation seems like a complete waste imo. You just put a little into the project and took the rest and poof? I guess at least you had the courtesy to let us know.. and since it was a donation from theymos idont think there's much to be said here.

If you are not going to devote time to this project then lock the thread. Unlock it again when you are available in the 'weeks to come.'

Good evening,

I'm sorry that you take it like that, I do my best to help the project "Epochtalk" on my free time.

Wow, seriously dude?
Why are you so bitter in life?

Lulu is only 21, he discovered BTC a few months ago, he is not an early adopter, he probably has less than $1000 equivalent crypto.
He is probably/ maybe using the computer his parent bought him a few years ago.
he is doing this in his spare time after school / instead of going out with friends.

He has done a tremendous job implementing the very first public forum using new technology.
He has done it using his time, money and sweat. Whitout even the promise of a reward.

I don't know where you live, I don't know how much time lulu has spent yet on the forum (50h ? 100h ?) and on the Github.
But if he had spent 50h on it, then a $1000 reward is not that much. It is barely $20/h someone working as a checkout in a supermarket would have made the same amount of money.

As a matter of fact, for $1000 I would only expect a tech/dev/Web specialist to work for just 10h on a problem/website, especially if the things he is doing haven't been done before.

So stop being jealous. Just recognize that Lulu participation in helping the Epochtalk technology is worthwhile and if you feel you can do something better, faster do it and maybe Theymos will send you $ 2000. Who knows?

Theymos understood this and give me a reward enough to give him the incentive to carry on the development.
And it is probable that Lulu has actually saved the forum dozen if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in beta testing.
(how much do you think the people working on epochtalk are charging / h / week)

This was just my 2 cents  ;)

I've got nothing against the dude. Any small bit of development is development none the less. But at least I don't think his lack of age or lack of experience is the excuse that he's hiding behind. I think, $1000 spent on someone who actually was going to dedicate his time and effort to this project would be money well spent. While he's just taking what he got as a reward and is done with it. He could have earned way more.

No one has to agree with me.


OP - incase you are still with us, lock the thread.

Correct.

Why should the OP lock the thread?

The site is up and running, with around 55 registered people. Not many really, but this thread, which actually leads us to it, is not that easy to find, nor are there that many people really willing to spend some time testing it.

Upgrades performed to Epochtalk which are ultimately potentially updated in the Cryptos-Currencies.com, are communicated in this thread, thus allowing us to know of their existence. Some other forum members such as @Halab and @Iasenko communicate some site specifics here for everyone to be aware of and which their role on the site allow them to see over plain users.

The site is currently the best shot we’ve got at trying out Epochtalk without having to install it ourselves, and is pretty much a Beta testing ground for anyone to try out. I’m glad @lulucrypto took his time to create the site, giving us a shot at least at looking at what it looks like, whilst allowing a bunch of bug/enhancements to be reported on Github.

I'm not sure I understand this sentence, but if I understood it correctly, I do not hide anything, on the contrary.


Did I say that I wanted to abandon the project ? No.

My goal is not to earn more, from the moment I have enough to pay the site, it's good. The rest is bonus.

Now if you don't like my idea and my vision just stop to follow this thread.

if possible fixed Quote border Direction RTL to right
https://i.ibb.co/3hPf6BN/image.png

I think it would be awesome If supported full RTL Direction ..
https://i.ibb.co/bL2bdHw/dafaf.jpg

what about font ? the font in Arabic Section Difficult to read It is better to change the font
where we can explained Issues ?

You can report all the bugs in their github, just create a new issue >
https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues

Hello,

Thank you for your reports, I have them report on the Github ^^

- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/568
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/569

See you soon ;)

thanks. @lulucrypto there are error i can't open any post

{503 The server is currently down for maintenance or over capacity....}

Yep, same here. The PMs seems to work, though (to be confirmed by lulu).

Hello,

Thanks for your report, do you still have the problem ?

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Hello,

Sorry for that, I have report the bug on the GitHub :

https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/574

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Hello,

New forum update !

Reporded bugs solved :

- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/574
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/572
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/568

You can see more log here :
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed

I take this message to tell you that you can now support the forum if you are a user of Brave !

For information, you can Download Brave here :
- With Ref : https://brave.com/cry991
- Without Ref : https://brave.com

More informations about Brave Browser :
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)

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Hey,

Small continuation of the last update !

Privates messages work correctly now :
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/570
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/571
- https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/issues/600

Note : All old privates messages has been removed with this update.

Come on to see that ! :)

https://cryptos-currencies.com/

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Hello everyone !

A little news from the forum ( Currently no time to be more active than that for now ::) ) :

On August 1st, I did the renewal of the VPS for 1 year ;)

https://i.imgur.com/qbTWje2.png

In addition to that, it is possible that during the end of the year the forum changes and integrates with a project that I develop ( Always around cryptos ) ;)
It's an idea that I have, but I should already finish the project in question :D
It is also possible that I use a "new instance" for this forum, to see ^^

Interesting I have one domain that I would like to test on that, I like SMF because of the many MOD that you can add and the many templates that are available but do this Epocktalk theme also offers many modification packages.
Some of the features are great looking at their roadmap
http://epochtalk.org/map.html

Hello,

For the moment, Epochtalk is still very limited in terms of customization compared to SMF.

If you are really looking for customization I advise you to stay on SMF for the moment ;)

@lulucrypto

How easy would it be to implement PGP authentication for joining Epochtalk based forums?

I understand the problems, PGP keys are free to create infinitely. But:

• New email addresses are basically free too, spammers etc always find a way to access unlimited new email addresses
• PGP keys can be proved to be from a known person, emails not always so well
• By staying with email based signup/login, we're rewarding the spammers/abusive, and punishing normal people who want anonymity for good reasons

Hello,

That's a very good question.

I have never implemented this kind of system personally.

It would be best to have the answer someone who has already done this to have a correct answer.

that's reasonable

the issue I see is that one needs a different email for every account, or 1 email and put alot of trust into the email provider who knows exactly which websites one has accounts with. Using PGP for login/signup doesn't have that problem, and can still be used to verify identity if that's what the user wants.

after all, this is Bitcoin: don't trust, verify ;)

FIDO2/U2F authentication would be ideal, maybe using a Trezor.

Example: https://wiki.trezor.io/Two-factor_Authentication_with_U2F_(Google) (https://wiki.trezor.io/Two-factor_Authentication_with_U2F_(Google))

GPG is more cumbersome and inconvenient to use to an average person.

e: fixed broken link

totally disagree

• Trezor is $69
• Google Auth encourages people be lazy and use their phone to handle it, which kinda screws everyone's anonymity by default
• PGP is free, and has gui versions for those who don't like command lines

and whichever way you go with authenticating with user handled cryptography, weird text strings are always involved.

there's no good reason not to offer PGP, at least if you care about decentralisation and letting people have the most choices how they control their own life.

And PGP is a powerful ID system too, so if you want to get a decentralized "blue tick" you can forego anonymity and use PGP to do it, Trezor and Google Auth cannot do this, whereas PGP already has a network of people using it as ID

Hey,

I'm just curious, is this new forum software GDPR compliant? Are there any docs regarding personal data processing? What if the users decide to exercise their right to be forgotten as per Art. 17 GDPR. Is it easy to deal with such requests?

yes and no

yes, forum moderator can delete user posts/accounts.

no, forum moderators cannot prevent people saving public (or private) user posts/messages and then publishing those.

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This is a fundamental aspect of dealing with publicly released data of any type or any platform. EpochTalk is subject to the exact same laws as any other platform in this regard: the laws of reality.

GDPR is not magic, if someone saves something you put online, you're relying on their goodwill not to re-publish that later if you reconsider it as a mistake. Best outcome is achieved by thinking very carefully before you put it online, because statutory legislation cannot protect you if someone re-publishing something attributed to you is sufficiently motivated to keeping that data publicly available.

If you do something interesting enough online, good or bad, it will last a long long time. And there's nothing anyone can do about it, it is equal measures of arrogance and ignorance to believe such a thing to be possible.

If you are worrying about someone using the data that you are posting  online then you should probably rethink whether you want to post it in the first place. If you are posting/sending personal data then it should always be encrypted anyway. Theymos has shown at least that hes only willing to release data that he has to because of the law but is not going to release data he thinks is irrelevant. I think in the past he has released information only on big cases such as the silkroad messages.

If someone has been harmed and they report it to the police, that might be enough to convince theymos to release information that could benefit an investigation. For victimless crimes afaik theymos will only cooperate when legally bound to (e.g. a valid US court order).