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Title: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: WhyFhy on March 14, 2019, 10:10:14 PM *edit* Check out the announcement topic here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121060.0)
microlancer.io (https://microlancer.io/?ref=303) Neat site I stumbled upon utilizing Lightning Network *full disclosure I now help with this project* Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: dunfida on March 14, 2019, 11:07:53 PM microlancer.io (http://microlancer.io) Neat site I stumbled upon utilizing Lightning Network Too technical for $1.94 amount. Take a look : https://microlancer.io/post/view?id=222 Most task are simple and doable and much better than wasting your time with faucets. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: leowonderful on March 14, 2019, 11:43:53 PM Really depends what your technical abilities are with BTC from what I can see as most of these tasks involve some sort of programming ability, especially with smart contracts, but this is indeed a neat little site. Haven't seen many sites like this at all, much less one using the lightning network. It's true that these tasks pay more than using a faucet, but they also require more technical ability than a faucet. Not too bad, though if you've got any sort of programming skill you could also advertise in the Services section (click for link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0)) and potentially get better rates than on this site.
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: WhyFhy on March 14, 2019, 11:57:16 PM Really depends what your technical abilities are with BTC from what I can see as most of these tasks involve some sort of programming ability, especially with smart contracts, but this is indeed a neat little site. Haven't seen many sites like this at all, much less one using the lightning network. It's true that these tasks pay more than using a faucet, but they also require more technical ability than a faucet. Not too bad, though if you've got any sort of programming skill you could also advertise in the Services section (click for link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0)) and potentially get better rates than on this site. I think its neat like one request pays you to gorilla market BTC by writing on 10 regular fiat notes.Ive been looking for a crypto alternative to mTurk ...I think this is as good as it gets or as close to that as it can get. This quenches a thirst ive had for like 2/3 years Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: eternalgloom on March 18, 2019, 12:14:31 PM Really depends what your technical abilities are with BTC from what I can see as most of these tasks involve some sort of programming ability, especially with smart contracts, but this is indeed a neat little site. Haven't seen many sites like this at all, much less one using the lightning network. It's true that these tasks pay more than using a faucet, but they also require more technical ability than a faucet. Not too bad, though if you've got any sort of programming skill you could also advertise in the Services section (click for link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0)) and potentially get better rates than on this site. I think its neat like one request pays you to gorilla market BTC by writing on 10 regular fiat notes.Ive been looking for a crypto alternative to mTurk ...I think this is as good as it gets or as close to that as it can get. This quenches a thirst ive had for like 2/3 years Yeah, I've gotta say that that's a pretty unique task to say the least. Not worth my time though and I think it's actually illegal to write stuff on fiat banknotes. One quick note, it's guerilla marketing, not gorilla marketing :P Not trying to be pedantic or anything, gorilla marketing just sounded too funny :D Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: Beerwizzard on March 18, 2019, 12:32:25 PM One of the first offers on this website is Say hello, earn 1 satoshi (https://microlancer.io/post/view?id=89). It is not really worth clicking on it for that price. Also there is a task with bug finding that rewards 5k sat lol.
Amazon Mechanical turk have pretty much geographical restrictions but tbh their low payments are way more attractive than this website. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: WhyFhy on March 19, 2019, 02:56:47 PM Its not much money but it is something in time it adds up a little better then a faucet.
*Noted the guerrilla marketing thing Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: BitBustah on March 19, 2019, 03:29:48 PM The market just isn't there, most people want fiat money. They don't want to deal with the volatility and the hassle of having to use an exchange. Very few places actually accept cryptocurrency as it stands and people have to pay for bills and food. This will change once it becomes more widely adopted.
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: milewilda on March 19, 2019, 10:59:53 PM One of the first offers on this website is Say hello, earn 1 satoshi (https://microlancer.io/post/view?id=89). It is not really worth clicking on it for that price. Also there is a task with bug finding that rewards 5k sat lol. You cant compare Amazon Mechanical turk with this new site. Everything do start on small but who knows if this one would gain traction.Amazon Mechanical turk have pretty much geographical restrictions but tbh their low payments are way more attractive than this website. Its not much money but it is something in time it adds up a little better then a faucet. Good luck to your future endeavors but you should considerate the amount given equals to the task being asked. *Noted the guerrilla marketing thing Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: imstillthebest on March 20, 2019, 03:42:52 AM The reward for this site must be small but this is much better than mturk imo because mturk is not easy , i mean not all people can register and be accepted on thier site . i know because i once tried it , not only once but a couple of times but no luck im still rejected no matter what i do . all i can say is that mturk sucks , good thing i found crypto and i discovered this forum . Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: BitBustah on March 20, 2019, 01:51:33 PM The reward for this site must be small but this is much better than mturk imo because mturk is not easy , i mean not all people can register and be accepted on thier site . i know because i once tried it , not only once but a couple of times but no luck im still rejected no matter what i do . all i can say is that mturk sucks , good thing i found crypto and i discovered this forum . Online work is heavily crowded so unless you are extremely gifted it will be difficult to stand out among the crowd. Everyone wants a job that is super flexible that can be done from home but most people don't have the chance to. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: Lanatsa on March 20, 2019, 08:51:36 PM The reward for this site must be small but this is much better than mturk imo because mturk is not easy , i mean not all people can register and be accepted on thier site . i know because i once tried it , not only once but a couple of times but no luck im still rejected no matter what i do . all i can say is that mturk sucks , good thing i found crypto and i discovered this forum . Online work is heavily crowded so unless you are extremely gifted it will be difficult to stand out among the crowd. Everyone wants a job that is super flexible that can be done from home but most people don't have the chance to. thats why they do neglect or dont care at all when looking up on whats being offered or asked. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: eternalgloom on March 20, 2019, 09:01:18 PM The reward for this site must be small but this is much better than mturk imo because mturk is not easy , i mean not all people can register and be accepted on thier site . i know because i once tried it , not only once but a couple of times but no luck im still rejected no matter what i do . all i can say is that mturk sucks , good thing i found crypto and i discovered this forum . Online work is heavily crowded so unless you are extremely gifted it will be difficult to stand out among the crowd. Everyone wants a job that is super flexible that can be done from home but most people don't have the chance to. This website doesn't offer real jobs though, I mean just look at the offers that are currently available. You can't expect to support yourself when you're doing small jobs that pay around 100 or 1000 satoshis. It could be better, if there were jobs on there that paid a little bit better, but still... Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: smyslov on March 25, 2019, 04:20:25 PM The earning is too small but a good site to earn for newbies because I also a lot of offers that deals with following social media and subscriptions, reminds of microtask website where I used to be so active some seven years ago, good for those who want to increase their followers.
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: WhyFhy on March 25, 2019, 08:53:33 PM As more people come along and create content the values should adjust accordingly the problem now is we need more feedback to make it worth while to all involved parties.
This is the kind of tool I was expecting for making the Bitcoin/LN ecosystem reach mainstream. I really want it to have success and I think it may end up being successful. this is on the announcement topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121060.0)I've used microlancer.io for a lot of small funny tasks people did just to experiment with the technology, I think. However, for the more complex tasks that would require some amount of expertise and dedication (not much, maybe 1 hour) I couldn't find a volunteer. Of course I was most certainly paying too little, but at the same time the fact that there aren't too many users makes it hard to find people for niche tasks. On the other hand, maybe the site will grow up from very generalist tasks to more specific ones with time. One thing that could be improved is the pricing mechanism. As I said: I don't know if I'm paying too little or too much, and I don't have a way to know that better -- probably all other freelancing sites suffer from that same problem. I can only think of a negotiation tool where people could say prices and the task price is updated for each different offerer, but that is probably too naïve. I too am waiting for more task to complete and want task completed! Come check it out a little more in depth and submit some feedback on the announcement topic found here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121060.0) Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: vit05 on March 27, 2019, 05:51:57 PM Mturk is great because it is a service supported buy a great company. You know that if you work, you will receive your money. It is hard to trust in a company that nobody knows where you could eventually works for free
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: eternalgloom on March 29, 2019, 03:13:10 PM Mturk is great because it is a service supported buy a great company. You know that if you work, you will receive your money. It is hard to trust in a company that nobody knows where you could eventually works for free I don't agree with anything you've said. It's almost the same as slave labor, you can't ever think to support yourself doing work like that. Companies are just leeching of off low-skilled labor and I know that some people really do try to make a living out of it. Sure, they will pay you for the work you've done, but the rates they're offering are just not worth it. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: BitBustah on March 30, 2019, 02:20:40 AM Mturk is great because it is a service supported buy a great company. You know that if you work, you will receive your money. It is hard to trust in a company that nobody knows where you could eventually works for free I don't agree with anything you've said. It's almost the same as slave labor, you can't ever think to support yourself doing work like that. Companies are just leeching of off low-skilled labor and I know that some people really do try to make a living out of it. Sure, they will pay you for the work you've done, but the rates they're offering are just not worth it. Thats the thing with online work, you are competing with people that only make a few dollars per day in their country. $2/ hour is nothing in the United States but in certain countries that can be a decent amount. Globalization has really brought down wages across the board but especially in jobs that are not location dependant. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: nc50lc on March 31, 2019, 03:24:14 AM -snip- Thats the thing with online work, you are competing with people that only make a few dollars per day in their country. $2/ hour is nothing in the United States but in certain countries that can be a decent amount. -snip-Sure, they will pay you for the work you've done, but the rates they're offering are just not worth it. Here in ASIA, $2/hour is equivalent to the salary of a McDonal's Crew Chief and much much higher than the regular rates (yes labor is pretty cheap here). I've checked the site but it's not like any other freelancing sites and noticed that it's more of an advertisement like PPA (Pay Per Action) site than a freelancer's due to the lack of rules for the "allowed" job offers. I wouldn't call a site that allows "register as my referral" a freelancer site (it has "~lancer" in the name ::)). Actually, I tried to look for "Graphic-related" job and only found one inactive ad, the userbase and decent job offers of the site is pretty scarce. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: BitHodler on March 31, 2019, 05:29:34 PM Thats the thing with online work, you are competing with people that only make a few dollars per day in their country. $2/ hour is nothing in the United States but in certain countries that can be a decent amount. It was a shocker for me finding out how far people are willing to go for a couple of dollars, or even a few pennies when it comes to people farming faucets, solving captchas, watching ads, and so forth.It really seems that a lot of Indians have found their way to Bitcointalk in the last couple of years, and this fierce competition between users leads to very low rewards for basic tasks. Good thing however is that these Indians due to a lack of understanding and skills can't compete with the rest when it comes to high level designing and coding tasks, and this is where businesses are still willing to pay big. Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: Dig Bicks on March 31, 2019, 06:38:46 PM people call me racist or whatever but indians, nigerians, and phillipinos have flooded this forum and are willing to do anything for a few scraps. They are the types that can barely even speak English and address everyone as brother or sir.
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: microlancer on April 02, 2019, 03:58:18 PM -snip- Thats the thing with online work, you are competing with people that only make a few dollars per day in their country. $2/ hour is nothing in the United States but in certain countries that can be a decent amount. -snip-Sure, they will pay you for the work you've done, but the rates they're offering are just not worth it. Here in ASIA, $2/hour is equivalent to the salary of a McDonal's Crew Chief and much much higher than the regular rates (yes labor is pretty cheap here). I've checked the site but it's not like any other freelancing sites and noticed that it's more of an advertisement like PPA (Pay Per Action) site than a freelancer's due to the lack of rules for the "allowed" job offers. I wouldn't call a site that allows "register as my referral" a freelancer site (it has "~lancer" in the name ::)). Actually, I tried to look for "Graphic-related" job and only found one inactive ad, the userbase and decent job offers of the site is pretty scarce. Hey, thanks for checking out my site! Great to find feedback here. I've worked on this as a hobby for the last 8-9 months just because of my love of Bitcoin and Lightning Network. It's still brand new, and just starting to get some active users. But I think it will take some time before we're able to get a lot of high quality posts. I'm working on ideas on how to improve the results so that more people are inclined to post higher paying tasks. But I think that's going to come down to 1) attracting more successful businesses that need help, startups, and investors, 2) building an algorithm+filters to limit results to your personal definition of quality tasks. And by the way, you can post counter-offers to any user's task! You don't need to accept the initial offer. I think negotiation is a beautiful thing, because the idea is that when both sides agree, they can both win. I'm also thinking of ways to improve the entire negotiation process to be a friendly encounter, and not one that feels like a war. I am thinking of allowing flexible ranges, or letting an asker choose to collect many estimates before accepting offers (like a silent auction, I think?). In regards to the "lack of rules" - that was definitely intentional. One of the things I love about Bitcoin is that it is permissionless, and while I do believe some amount of moderation is important to the quality, I believe that restrictions are not the best way to deal with it. I want to ensure that anyone can post, even controversial things (if they are not downright illegal and put me or the business in danger). And, give the taskers the power to filter and sort out unwanted tasks according to their preference. Plus, the site was so new and experimental, that I wanted to learn how users were going to use the site. By letting everything in, I could try to get a sense of what people were interested in getting help with. I wanted to adjust and grow the site from that experience. I know the site is very rough, and I've been trying my best to built it as a one-man operation. I've been busy with all the design, marketing, affiliate management, customer support, server management, devops, system adminstration, backend development, frontend development, backups, legal, accounting, branding, advertising, and trying to recover from family issues and a back surgery. I put my heart into this project, and will continue to do so. I'm happy as long as a few handful of people love the site. I set the fees extremely low, and most likely at such a rate, it will probably never become wildly profitable. But really, I just wanted to contribute something even if it was small, to the world of Bitcoin, in great respect to Satoshi whoever he/she is, and everyone who feels the same. My life is short, and very few things have great meaning to me. But I believe if Bitcoin succeeds, then the world will be a better place. And that's all I want - for me to try to leave this world a little better than when I found it. Tim @ Microlancer.io Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: coin-investor on April 04, 2019, 02:01:04 AM I recommend the site to newbies, for those who just want to test Bitcoin for the first time I doubt if you can earn much on this site, because there are few tasks and they are paying so low, that it will take you months also to cashout, you also need a lot of referrals for extra earnings.
Title: Re: mTurk Equivalent but pays satoshi for task! Post by: eternalgloom on April 05, 2019, 04:15:28 PM Hey, thanks for checking out my site! Great to find feedback here. I've worked on this as a hobby for the last 8-9 months just because of my love of Bitcoin and Lightning Network. It's still brand new, and just starting to get some active users. But I think it will take some time before we're able to get a lot of high quality posts. I'm working on ideas on how to improve the results so that more people are inclined to post higher paying tasks. But I think that's going to come down to 1) attracting more successful businesses that need help, startups, and investors, 2) building an algorithm+filters to limit results to your personal definition of quality tasks. And by the way, you can post counter-offers to any user's task! You don't need to accept the initial offer. I think negotiation is a beautiful thing, because the idea is that when both sides agree, they can both win. I'm also thinking of ways to improve the entire negotiation process to be a friendly encounter, and not one that feels like a war. I am thinking of allowing flexible ranges, or letting an asker choose to collect many estimates before accepting offers (like a silent auction, I think?). In regards to the "lack of rules" - that was definitely intentional. One of the things I love about Bitcoin is that it is permissionless, and while I do believe some amount of moderation is important to the quality, I believe that restrictions are not the best way to deal with it. I want to ensure that anyone can post, even controversial things (if they are not downright illegal and put me or the business in danger). And, give the taskers the power to filter and sort out unwanted tasks according to their preference. Plus, the site was so new and experimental, that I wanted to learn how users were going to use the site. By letting everything in, I could try to get a sense of what people were interested in getting help with. I wanted to adjust and grow the site from that experience. I know the site is very rough, and I've been trying my best to built it as a one-man operation. I've been busy with all the design, marketing, affiliate management, customer support, server management, devops, system adminstration, backend development, frontend development, backups, legal, accounting, branding, advertising, and trying to recover from family issues and a back surgery. I put my heart into this project, and will continue to do so. I'm happy as long as a few handful of people love the site. I set the fees extremely low, and most likely at such a rate, it will probably never become wildly profitable. But really, I just wanted to contribute something even if it was small, to the world of Bitcoin, in great respect to Satoshi whoever he/she is, and everyone who feels the same. My life is short, and very few things have great meaning to me. But I believe if Bitcoin succeeds, then the world will be a better place. And that's all I want - for me to try to leave this world a little better than when I found it. Tim @ Microlancer.io My commentary wasn't directed at your site specifically, I really think it's a great example of how lightning network can be used. I really do hope that people also post some higher paying jobs on there and I agree that you shouldn't set up any restrictions. In the end, it's up to people themselves to decide for what amount they want to work. The fact that you can also post counter-offers is a really nice touch! |