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One major factor that constitutes violence is clash of religious beliefs. So many has lost husband, wives, sisters, brothers, children, friends and loved ones due to attacks bored by religious beliefs.

   How can we stop clashes of religious beliefs
Be you a Christian, Muslim etc or even of no believe one major way to coexist together is upholding mutual respect
Most time we fined our self being a fan of a particular believe than actually being religious or practising that believe that why the burning hate for others who don't share the same believe is strong.

I am a Christian by believe but free-spirited by ideology I reside in a place predominantly occupied by Muslims but I have survived here by not enforcing my religious thoughts on others and share understanding.
Most time we don't choose our religion if I where to be born into a Muslim family I might probably be a Muslim so I don't have any right to take the life of someone born into a Muslim family.

We could go about our duties, jobs play games together live in this world happily and still keep our believes at heart without it inflicting harm to others

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I am straight in terms of my sexuality but have nothing against gay, or bisexuals.
Gay marriage or relationship is illegal from where I come from and attached to it are some severe jail terms. But we fail to understand this act is actually not a criminal act and the Two parties involved are doing at there own consent so it wrong to play God in the lives of humans and condemn them because you are in the position of power.
That's why the western world are more developed than where I come from. Ones you put a stigma on someone because of there choices you cripple other aspect of there lives you make them withdrawn and unhappy these can be people with some beneficial talent that can improve the nation.
In conclusion live and let others live

People nowadays don't believe in "Live and Let Live". They are so obsessed in religion, gender, race, culture etc. that they forcibly impose their thoughts on others. I am a Christian but live in India and currently religion topics are blown out of proportion which is so disturbing.

That's how the general EU immigration policy looks like. Peacefull and free-spirited europeans are not enforcing anything and willing to accept muslim refugees, that are not so free-spirited and would be happy to enforce their way of life that is unacceptable for most europeans.

Then you would probably have another mindset rather than any other people have. And in this case, why should we welcome those people if their traditions are unacceptable in our culture?

I think it is almost impossible for religious people to keep their beliefs personal, because so many religions encourage or even require followers to "help" people they think have taken the wrong path. I'd say religions are the root cause of so many problems in the world today and trying to ignore that means you will never be able to fix the problem. A well rounded education and teaching people to think logically is the only solution for the future of humanity.

We all can coexist and live peacefully, only some black forces are directing people to completely different goals. Bisexuals and similar beings appeared as a result of propaganda. Perhaps propaganda, even from a distant past.Everything remains in the subconscious.Concerning religion, I don’t remember that there were wars because of religion.Wars begin because of the degraded economy,claims on the territory and the availability of minerals from one of the parties.or imperial ambitions (we all remember the example).

I don't agree with this statement.
Of course some religins are very radical and don't accept different faiths or opinion but many religions and churches are very tolerant and accept difference, even working together with other faiths and religions toward common goals like peace in the world and stop violence, for example.
All people are different and also all churches and religions are different.
You can't conclude that everything is the same.
Any way, under law and constitution, all people are free to share their faith and belief.
You are free to listen them or not.

 

Keeping religious beliefs hidden within yourself is like becoming a hermit on a mountain. If you want a relationship of any kind, you have to share your personal religious beliefs.

I don't like the idea of dying. But dying is all around us. It seems that it is going to happen. So, let me die right. Let me die in a way that brings as many people to eternal life as possible. This is the reason why it is better to share religion than hide it.

In other words, there isn't any peaceful coexistence with hidden religion. There is only peaceful coexistence in sharing religion to find out what is right and what is wrong in all religious thinking. It is right religion that promotes peace through sharing religion. It is wrong religion that promotes violence when sharing religion... or doesn't promote sharing religion at all.

In other words, a religion of keeping religion hidden, is a religion that promotes death and violence more than peaceful sharing of religion.

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The solution is education.  If you educate the masses on how to be critical thinkers, it won't get rid of religion, but it will give people a better perspective with which to see their religion, extreme teachings within it, and view of others in other religions.  Basically education will turn people into OP.

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Homosexual is counterproductive.

People of the same sex/gender can be great friends. All people are supposed to love each other and all people. But sexuality is for making children. The great exhilaration that comes from the sex act, is something that God placed there, because He wants us to procreate, and He wants us to be happy with children.

Homosexual acts are entirely counterproductive, and are against nature. These acts promote nothing.

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There's nothing wrong and it is very simple to respect all kinds of beliefs and religions.
If you are a person who would like to prove something, then that is one of the things we can consider as wrong as well. If you know that you have something that the people won't accept. Then do not force them to believe.  As long as you don't ruin someone's life and you respect their beliefs and that is all fine. You just have to keep your business private and that's the end of the story.

Religions were made by us,to show how we need to live our life as community and supporting each other but ow people uses that to dominant over other religion which makes clash among the people.

American SJWs are taking a huge loans for their education but for some reason they keep trying to force their absolutely retarded ideology. I'm not sure that education would help in this case. Also there is a great quote for such cases: "Formal instruction does not cure foolishness; it arms it." -Nicolás Gómez Dávila.

I also don't see a reason why religious should be something which cause fight  between people since we can't all come from the sane background, we love the something or have the same understand. However, I'm also straight just like the OP but I will never support any gay, or bisexuals relationship cause it illegal and was actually a criminal act  as the bible says.

Releigion has caused more violence than anything in human history.  So much for being peaceful and loving . Then we have all these religious hypocrites that are insanely wealthy by scamming people, easier than for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich man.......

Exactly. Not to mention those people are going to outbreed them. We can only expect more of this in Europe and elsewhere as Muslims haven't reached their peak population yet. Secularists don't realize that laws are useless against demographics since the majority can simply rewrite the law.

I don't think keeping religious belief in private/personal will promote peaceful coexistence.
Imagine you eat in a diner with pork ribs and your try to be generous by sharing the excessive amount of ribs the diner give you to
a stranger unknowingly he or she is a Muslim. And what would Christmas season looks like? the holy week?
Better to let all the leader of each religions to teach and promote respect of each separate faith.

there cant be peaceful coexistances between religions, they are spiritual realsm they allso have a territory.

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Your own words say it all.

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King

B: Muslim King

The West has came up with pretty good solutions for it. One was called "Freedom of Religion" and the other is "Separation of Church and State". You are free to practice your religion but keep it out of politics.

In practice politicians may still apply laws based on religion but actual religious institutions have no direct control of the government.


Osama bin Laden (of the wealth Bin Laden construction company) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (who is a surgeon) are prime examples that money and education don't cure psychopathy.

Neither.

Peace and love is what the world need, religion is one of the institutions that divide the world and religion estrimist is what result into conflict and  at that breed crisis, once there is live the world will be a better place for all of us.

True, religion does nothing for us, sure it's an easy way to escape reality but in the end it's just a dream because reality will hit you eventually and you will die, eventually, then no heaven, no after life, nothing and you might have just wasted your life praising something that doesn't even exist.

Its impossible to co-exist in a society with mix religions in it and practicing it privately. I think for every religious person who practice their faith base on the scriptures that they follow, somewhere along that text, mentioned that they need to spread their faith and influence it to  non believer of their faith.

I am with you in terms of allowing others to live a life what they wanted to have. Tho, I will agree with Badecker in one term. Never ever hide your beliefs but also do not force someone to believe in you. Instead try to educate yourself more for the values of your religion.

I am also speaking about my religious belief to other people specifically muslims and sharing them instead of forcing them to believe in you is a much efficient way.

A healthy debate about religions is a healthy thing to live on. It can give you more wisdom

then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society.

And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being?

God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

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There will always be evil people who use their education to manipulate others but they aren't the ones out there blowing themselves up.  Again, this is a trend, not a rule but its generally harder for masterminds like Osama to manipulate educated people. 

Peace is more important than whatever we are seeing as object of worship and since we cannot agree in one object it is very important that we should keep our religion believe personal and never try to kills for god that cannot fight for himself. 

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.

I can understand why you would think this ^^^. After all, it's the thing you are attempting to do with whatever kind of religion you are attempting to use... your own personal religion of non-religion... is to pick on other religions. But isn't that the thing that all religions do at times?

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I'm more under the impression that people are inherently evil to varying degrees. The higher the evil level, the more likely they'll fall for propaganda like al-Qaeda's and find a way to justify going through with the evil deed. I mean, you need to have a certain degree of callousness to shoot at or abduct and rape small children going to school.

The smart evil runs the organization, the dumb evil do the dirty work.

^^^ The other side of that is that good religions should spread their info, just to combat the evil ones. In the case of spreading Christianity, salvation will result for some people who hear.

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I'm fairly sure that's what Muslims say too, that their good religion should be spread and other evil religions, Christianity should be stopped.

It would be useful to include in your critique, other human myth systems besides religion. Otherwise, you would convince people to leave religion, and they would simply be sucked into the next convenient quasi-religion they encounter.

Like Climate Change.

Or has that became a religion? I don't keep up...

The best thing people could do is admit when they are wrong, unfortunately it's really hard to do it and really easy to stick to one ideology, religion, belief. I admit I was probably wrong about climate change, it does seem like evidence for it is a bit shaky so my views about it are neutral now, I will say I simply don't know if it's caused by humans or not. 

I am not being critical of views. Not in the least.

I am only pointing out that many will, in the absence of religion, substitute alterative myth systems, among which at least in some people, it becomes something like a religion.

well thats no religious freedom then if you deny christians or muslims their kingdom, why always with a banking cartel founded by jews generations ago, or why always with a cryptocurrency index scam?

if thats how it is continuing people will simply stop listening to what others say and consider each other like standard living commodities, (thats where crypto is brining everyone no more humanist states

The difference is that good Muslim religion would cause Muslims to harm Christians and those of other religions.

Good Christian religion would cause Christians to do good to all people no matter their religion.

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Is that what Christians look like where you come from? Is that what you think Christians look like? Christians are shirtless redneck white blue eyed blond southern rebels with pump shotguns while the muslim is in white robes with a proper weapon?
For not being from where southern rebels exist what do you know about such a person and why would you conflate that with Christians in general?
It looks to me like you want to disparage the image of a Christian.. No?


Are you admitting that you would not survive among muslims as a Christian if you acted like the muslims living among us Christians do?

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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,

usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive

You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things.

The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe.

It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe.

USA is much more religious when compared to my country (Canada). Even the American metros such as SF and LA have significant evangelical populations. And another thing is that the US is the primary destination for evangelical immigrants, especially those from South Korea, Vietnam and Latin America. If that was not the case, then Trump would have lose the 2016 elections.

Don't forget the Muslim immigrants. These are basically extreme fundamentalists as far as religious orientation. Where the Christian churches vary widely, and only a few are considered "fundamentalist," all Islamic groups are so.

Well that's certainly true, christians have ''evolved'' in a way, they basically ignore all the immoral passages of the bible and at least try to be somewhat good, muslims are still too outdated, they are basically living in 1500 still.

It's fair to say that Christianity has evolved.

^^^ Christianity is trying to save souls for Heaven. When the world evolves into things like the science it has become, Christianity has to evolve to reach evolved people in the way they think... just to save them. However, the base of Christianity - the Bible - hasn't evolved.

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I would say that all the major religions have evolved (perhaps with the exception of Islam). But you can still find sections of these religions which have resisted evolution. To give examples, there are the Amish and the FLDS among the Christians, Haredis among the Jews and groups like Jehova's witnesses that avoid modern medicine.

Any religion can argue the same thing, they all have heavens or different ways to live forever, reincarnation, etc. Funny thing, god himself wiped out almost all humanity once, doesn't seem like something you would do when you are trying to save souls for heaven.

^^^ If religions say the same thing or not... that's the reason religious people should talk to each other... to find out.

If you have a tool that breaks, you can attempt to fix it if you want. But if the tool won't fix, toss it... like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix, in the Flood. Many of the people were hundreds of years old at that time. You are just a child. God is still patient with you.

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''like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix'' Why make them in the first place then? Why let them spread again knowing it will happen again? Is he stupid?

^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast?

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Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all?

I think when it comes to religion, it can't be avoided. There's hardly any compromise when people talk about their beliefs. As long as we can't overlook which god is the real one, there will always be divisions among us. At this time and i age, you would have thought that we're already beyond religious squabbles but no, sadly there will always be those that will force their beliefs in others.

Remember God's words to Adam and Eve in the garden? "The day you eat of it you will surely die." Even though they were walking around like they were alive, they were already dead in spirit, because they willingly, freely, ate. They removed themselves from free will when they killed themselves.

Their children were dead, even though the machinery of their bodies and minds appeared to be alive. Why? You can't get life out of something that is dead. Spiritually, they were dead already. The body and mind were made so well by god that they seemed to remain alive for centuries (in some cases) even though the spirits were dead already.

There is only one way to come back to life. That is to believe in Jesus salvation. With faith life is renewed by God. "You are gods, to whom the Word of God comes." This doesn't mean simply reading it. It means a penetration of the Spirit of the Word into the heart and soul of the reader. Such believers never die, even when their bodies are dead.

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Great argument, why didn't god get rid of Adam and Eve after they ate the fruit if their spirits and the spirits of their children were already dead? Why wait until the population was big to kill everyone instead of doing it at the start? LOL

^^^ God tells us in Proverbs, through Solomon, that whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your strength... because there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going.

God is taking His own advice. And when God does something with His strength, it isn't easy to even change gears. Consider the car that is moving at 100 mph. It doesn't stop easily except with disastrous results, by the semi moving in the opposite direction. God is fantastically great. Even He doesn't change His own direction when He sets something in place with His strength.

What did God have set in place regarding Adam and Eve? Genesis 1:28:
When did God set this in place? Before they ate of the fruit, not after. It was God's plan, His goal, His desire, that He was doing with His strength.

Is God getting what He wants? Yes! He wound up sending His son, Jesus, to get what He wants... and also to fulfill the last part of what Solomon said, above, that "there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going." Even Jesus/God went to the grave (although He arose afterward), to fulfill the desire-strength of God that mankind fulfill the earth.

The future is this... a New Heavens and New Earth - a new universe - for all who rely on God's strength in Jesus-God-salvation. What happens to the others is their own doing.

Turn while you have a chance.

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That was a whole paragraph of nothing related to what I said.

You argued that Adam and Eve lost their 'spirit' or 'soul' when they ate the fruit and everyone after that had no soul either so when god killed everyone, it was fine. The question is, why not do it earlier? Why not simply kill adam and eve and start again, what's the point of waiting, to kill more people at once?

Right from time we know who control the money in our country it the government no matter what the religion of the leader is either a Muslim or Christian we must learn to leave in peace in other for development to happen.

God wants people alive. Even if they kill themselves, he wants them alive. Some of them will accept life when given a second chance. Some of them won't. This is the way to prove it out.

In the Judgment, God will have the ones He wants alive. He will have found out which ones don't want life. But for the people, they will have proven it to themselves.

Why start again? Broken record. Rather, get the results.

When you get to the Judgment, you can ask God about the wisdom of His ways. Whatever the wisdom of His ways is, the point from our position is to be saved alive.

Turn while you can.

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This doesn't answer the question though. If god wants people alive, why kill 99.99% of them?

^^^ I know. Asking the same questions over and over, in the wrong direction, is a favorite of yours. I can't really say that you are a troll. But there are some trollish things in doing such.

Get it through your head, God didn't kill anybody. The most He did was to follow the requests of people that they be put to death, and expedite what might have taken many more years otherwise.

Why did He do even this if He wanted them to be alive? Because life wasn't all that He wanted out of them. He also wanted a loving relationship with them. That's why He sent Jesus to save people... so that they could reconsider (in your case, many times), and make a final choice for death or life.

Will some reconsider? Yes. Some will reconsider, and accept the renewed life that God wants for them. So, God will get what He wants. The giving of the gift of life for people who want a relationship with Him; the gift of a living death for those who really want it (of course, nobody really wants death).

All that atheism is, is a foolish idea that somehow people can believe God out of existence. But they don't really want to die. Rather, they want renewed health without God. So, God will even give them that.

How will God give atheists life without God yet without death at the same time? Jesus won life for them when He did His work on the cross. Jesus's work gives atheists life, just as it gives everybody else life - life for all in the resurrection.

Since everyone has life from Jesus as a gift of God to look forward to, what are Hell and Heaven all about? They are about two things:
1. The gift of living forever with God - Heaven - joy, peace, hope, forever;
2. The gift of living forever without God - Hell - no joy, peace, or hope, but instead, continually being destroyed and renewed for more destruction, forever.

Atheists are asking by their atheism that there be no God for them. That's part of the reason why they hate religion. Religion is causing them to doubt their desire for no God. Even religions that don't have a god are causing atheists to think, a little, that there might be a god. Even the religion of atheism thrusts them into the position of being god in their own lives.

Atheists hate religion because it forces them to recognize one way or another that God exists. Since He exists, why not turn and be friends with Him and live with Him in the joys of Heaven? Why end up living without Him in the continual destruction of Hell?

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Scenario 1: God kills Adam and Eve after they sin and starts again

Scenario 2: God lets Adam and Eve live and have children to multiply just to eventually kill everyone anyways but later on so instead of killing 2 people, he kills hundreds of thousands just to start over again.


Scenario 1 statistics (2 deaths) (a few months/years wasted)
Result from scenario 1: Starting over again

Scenario 2 statistics (hundreds of thousands of deaths) (A lot of years wasted)
Result from scenario 2: Starting over again

God chose scenario 2, he is dumb.

^^^ You forgot Scenario 3: God makes good people because He wants good people for whatever His reasons.

Then the people turn bad because they don't realize the dangers of badness, and they want to test badness out.

Then God saves people to get some good ones out of them like He wanted in the first place. But He still gives them their free choice.

In the future, God will separate the good ones who want to be with Him, from the bad ones who want to be apart from Him. Of course, those who want to be apart from Him aren't of any use to Him, and He did all He could to get them to want to accept Him, so get rid of them since they won't accept.

It was interesting knowing you, Astargath.

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Where in your scenario does god kill almost everyone again?

^^^ Which god are you talking about?     8)

I like your little tactics trying to avoid the question. God murdered almost everyone with the flood, the question was, why do it then and not at the beginning, if he is going to ignore their free will and kill all of them, why not do it at the start?

Why do you think that God murdered anybody? The pre-Flood people were attempting to kill themselves off. He simply got tired of holding them alive, knowing that they were going to continue to fight His giving of life to them. So He expedited their death request for them.

You completely have your general thinking about this backwards. God's loving mercy maintains all people. And, it maintains the little bit of free will they have. Keep it up. God will "tire" of maintaining your life in the face of all the ridicule He gets from you, just like he tired of the ridicule from the pre-Flood people.

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God got "tired" of keeping them alive? Do you even read what you type? A god cannot get tired dumbass. You are delusional. An omniscient, all powerful, all knowing being simply cannot be angry or tired by definition, do you even understand that simple concept?

Religion is always been the roots of many killings from places to places and this is very alarming

But i agreed on what OP wanted to say here,i had been once a victim of religious war since i was born as Christian but living in muslim place so in some instance there are fighting and killing but i never put any hardship in my heart instead i aim for peace as religion is only a beliefs but we human has our own goodness un heart so now as i grow old i had lots of friend that muslim and we are not talking about religious things

This image tells a story just by the firearms being used.

One is saying "fuck off!" and the other "Allah Akbar?!"

Most shotguns are defensive, and most ak47 are for spraying bullets.

In a well-known book that talks about human philosophy, they explain this topic very well, they say that humanity is a race that always tries to make everything live in chaos, the human being by nature will always look for the shock, the fight, a In the ways that have been achieved since the beginning of time both by governments and those who have global control, is to control people through religion.

Religion makes people begin to believe and have better behaviors before the events and events that live on a daily basis, obviously, religion does not have that focus, but control is directed with all those tools, such as religion, politics , which makes people try to take some measure in their actions.

All this makes people take into account that the best thing to do is to obtain peace, not wars, because in wars there would be much more cruelty than there is normally in the world, although world control has begun from the beginning. religion. In my case, if I have the full conviction of a Heavenly Father God Being, I see it as a whole, as the only one, but religion, I do not believe, because every religion has its norms that often are not what Jesus Christ proclaimed.

^^^ And Jesus's biggest, first instruction for us is to spread the Gospel. Now all we have to do is figure out if spreading the Gospel is a religious activity.

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And God's biggest action was to wipe out the whole world except a few people, that isn't very helpful when you are trying to spread the Gospel, is it? Perhaps Jesus and God are angry and each other and they do opposite things.

I'm glad I'm in a country where there is liberalism and we accept and adhere to freedom of religion, religion is not an issue among us here, but younger generation tend to disrespect some religious beliefs that di not conform to their belief, this is something that we have to live and fight if we want to have a civilized society.

You keep saying this. Don't you realize that people aren't strong enough to wipe themselves out and yet remain alive?

People asked for destruction by eating the fruit, and then by acting against everything that was good and right. When their request for destruction overcame their request for life strongly enough, God simply gave them what they asked for... just like God gives us everything we have.

If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.

They were a warning for you, those people were. Do you really want destruction that badly? that you keep on asking for it like those people did?

Jesus is the way that God made so we can ask for both, destruction and life... mostly because we don't have as big a choice either direction as those pre-Flood people did. However, just to please you, God set standard life limits to less than 120 years, generally. He did this so that you know by example of all people that you only have so much time to make your life request stronger than your destruction request.

Turn while you have time.

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You are right that if someone hides his personal beliefs then we will probably reduce hate and there will be peace around the world.
The problem is that some people try to show off their religious beliefs in order to show that they are superior over other religious teams. This is what causes chaos in my opinion. We need to try to convince people that none is superior over someone else. We are all people.

Religions were made by humans to live good and peace life but now it is one of the thing causing terrorist attacks everywhere,some says muslims some says Christians but religions were not taught to kill anyone only people doing it for their benefits.

Well I certainly didn't. I didn't eat the fruit myself now, did I?

''If God hadn't given them what they asked for, you would complain that God wasn't the giving God He says He is.'' WOW IT'S AMAZING, NOT ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH 100% CERTAINTY BUT YOU ARE ALSO ABLE TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE FROM THE PAST WERE THINKING, IMPRESSIVE. Are you a god yourself or why do you keep claiming that people ''asked'' for it?

^^^ You didn't receive the command to not eat the fruit, did you? In fact, God never even told you which fruit it is, did He? So you are going to die for some other reason. Here's what the reason is:

People are similar enough now to what they were then. So, it's easy to know what they thought back then. All we need do is find out what they think now.

Since now-people don't have enough faith in God to cry out to Him for salvation, they will die, just like those others who partook of the corrupted genetics of Adam and Eve, after it was corrupted by whatever chemicals the fruit had in it.

You partake of the genetics, and you don't even acknowledge God. So why should He save you? You are just like those people of long ago... except that you are a bit dumber.

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Hey, you don't know the whole story so let me explain it.

I know what happened with 100% certainty.

God told them not to eat these fruits, but to save them and make a special treat, they didn't listen, they just sat there chomping away.

He continued explaining how to ferment fruits and make wine. Then he noticed they'd fallen asleep.

He was pissed, because his jug of hard cider was almost empty. And all the fruit trees were down there on Earth. If they wouldn't listen and do what he said, a bad thing would happen.

Where would he get his next jug of happy juice?

So why didn't he kill more people then? Aren't we just as bad as those ones he killed with the flood? Why didn't he get rid of more people? Why did he only kill those people and not more afterwards? I mean, he didn't come back yet so it means we are just as bad, right?

^^^ You forgot already? God gives what people ask of Him.

Be happy that God understands that you don't understand. He is being merciful with you, and patiently hoping you will turn away from asking for death.

I mean, how much more slapping in the face will He take from you? How much more disrespect? What's extremely interesting is that God is way more sensitive than you or I. But he still puts up with your disrespect, even though it cuts Him to the quick.

You should love Him for this.

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So why hasn't he killed me yet? If im asking for it, he should have killed me already just like he did with those millions of people, why is he suddenly not killing everyone like he used to? Where is the logic here, I see none, you argue that god killed everyone because they asked for it and you tell me I'm asking for it and yet god doesn't kill me, perhaps he is scared of me or something?

financial sovereignty is an asset that cant be shared, a worker can either work for capitalist A or Capitalist B, if the workers arent supposed to be masss available junk but human being with human rights, the capital that gives soverignty over those workers is limited and highly fought about

While I agree with your overall message, and I do think that "live and let live" should be the way to go, I just don't think it's ever gonna happen.
Religions, by design, just aren't compatible with each other. And religious people, at least in my experience, tend to not have a high opinion of us "unbelievers" either.
Maybe I'm too cynical about it, I dunno, but I find rare to find a religious person that doesn't bring up their faith much, or tries to convert me at some point.

^^^ The problem with this is that some religions tell their adherents to be violent with people of other religions.... particularly Islam.

So, it's a good idea to know the other religions, even if you don't share.

Most religions have embedded within them the idea to share their knowledge. The idea to not share religious beliefs, is itself a religious belief that is being shared... in contradiction to its own statement... right in the theme of this thread.

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It's not because not sharing something doesn't have rules or any code written anywhere, someone who doesn't believe in gods cannot be called religious, simply because he does not follow any particular rules from any particular book like you do, we also don't worship any kind of god or deity. You are confused.

^^^ Except that the dictionary definition of religion shows that people who DON'T necessarily believe in God most certainly can be religious.

In the same way that people have heads, arms, legs, and torsos, etc., so they all have the laws of God written in their hearts via DNA programming.

So, you actually believe in God, because you haven't entirely overridden your basic DNA programming... yet. Of course, if you finally do it, you will die shortly thereafter.

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''religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:   faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More

a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"

a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.''

First and second definition include faith and worship, third one could be the best one for your trash argument, however not believing in gods is not an ''interest'' or ''pursuit''

Definition of interest is:

''Your interests are the activities that you enjoy doing and the subjects that you like to spend time learning about''

Not believing in gods is not an activity or a subject you need to learn.

Definition of pursuit is:

''an activity that you spend time doing, usually when you are not working''

Again, not believing in something is not an activity.

Therefore using the dictionary we can conclude that not believing in gods is not a religion.

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Notice that most of the definition have nothing to do with a supreme being... at least not directly. So, as usual, you have been proven wrong. Besides, what does this have to do with the idea of keeping quiet about your religious stuff? You certainly aren't keeping quiet about YOUR religious beliefs.

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I could not agree more. Religion is a very sensitive topic most importantly to Muslims so we should rather talk about anything outside of that topic because when we see two people with different religion has a conflict together, the fight is autmatically not just between them but the whole side of  worshippers.

^^^ If that is really your religious belief about religion, why are you sharing it with the rest of us?

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1. Not believing in silly science fiction books isn't about being concerned with what caused the universe and is also not a set of beliefs either.

2. Not believing in gods is not a set of beliefs, it's simply not accepting shit without evidence.

3. Same as 2

4...

5. same as 2

6. I don't believe it, I know it for a fact since evidence points towards it, your god doesn't exist as suggested by science, I also don't follow it devotedly, there is nothing to follow, I simply don't believe in it.

7. and 8. useless


Again, not believing in gods is not a religion proven by definition.

^^^ Since your language is this different from the standard, I don't really understand what you mean, and you won't understand this post.

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Is this your way of saying, I'm right? As usual, when out of arguments you simply try to ignore it, haha, no wonder you believe in stupid shit. 0 critical thinking.

There is only one religious belief that should be expressed in public, when there is no question asked of you. This is the fact that Jesus Christ died and arose for the sins of all people, so that all have the chance to be saved for eternal life.

Other expressions of religion should exist in simple question form, or in the way one lives his life. Ask simple questions to get info about the religion of others. If they ask you questions about your religion, then you can express the answers to what they ask. but do so with sensitivity to their feelings and their religion. True religion is to do good to all people. If expressing religious beliefs antagonizes other, they should be kept to one's self.

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Everyone believes in different Gods so we have to respect that.
No religious expressing should be expressed and you just do it right now, which doesn't promote peace around people with different beliefs.

^^^ Stating a fact - Jesus salvation - isn't religion.

If someone asks you about your religion, shouldn't you be friendly and answer him?

If you can't get someone to ask you about your religion, you can ask him about his. He doesn't have to converse if he doesn't want to. And you should be polite and not press the issue.

None of these things is expressing your religion until someone wants to trade religious info. And that is the way to spread religion without being offensive.

However, since it seems to be your religion to not express religion, why did you go against your religion in your above post?

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Bumping this...

Can a thread starter answer the question please?

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First of all, never misunderestimate a pump shotgun in the hands of a trained user.

Second, I do get the impression the message here is "Westerners, shut up. Muslims, be as offensive as you want."

Were you there when it happened? I don't see any history book mentioning it besides the science fiction book, the bible. How do we know it happened? How do we know that even if something like that happened it wasn't some sort of illusion created by aliens that are trying to control us? It's a hoax, there is no proof for it.

^^^ But if you examine what is happening, archaeology is gradually proving the Bible to be true.

So, we don't only have the science of the nation of Israel, we also have the science of archaeology.

In addition, we have the science of standard science that proves itself not capable of finding any other way than the Bible.

What else do you want? Even science is proving the Bible true, and that they are wrong in many of the standard ideas that they have been promoting.

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No it's not, archaeology and any science is literally proving the bible to be wrong. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

As you can see, science proves the bible to be wrong in anything.


''In addition, we have the science of standard science that proves itself not capable of finding any other way than the Bible.'' I don't know what that means.

''we don't only have the science of the nation of Israel'' Like what?

^^^ It's kinda nice that you like expressing your religious beliefs like that.

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If evidence provided means religious beliefs, sure, although you are the one who claims stuff without any evidence like: 'archaeology is gradually proving the Bible to be true.' or 'Even science is proving the Bible true'
When exactly has science proved the bible to be true? It has always been exactly the opposite, pretty much everything in science disproves the bible.

Astronomy disproves the bible since we know the universe is way older than what the bible suggests.

Geology disproves it with the age of the earth.

Biology disproves the bible as well.

In my belief.Religion makes you a better person.Entering in religion is a matter.infact for me if you are in one relgion you will never do such bad thing in all fellowmen.what ever your religion it is.this is important.if you are truely believe of what religion teach us you wont do harm in coexisting.if you follow your religion deeply in your heart yes peaceful coexisting can be done.
Its our choice what ever you want.be in relgion or not if you think to do good our religion is not a matter.

No matter what they teach you, you will still be you, deep down. Are religious people significantly less likely to commit crimes or more likely to help others? Several studies suggest even the contrary so how do we really know if religion makes you a better person?

Astronomy doesn't prove the universe is way older than the Bible suggests. Rather, interpretations of astronomical data suggest that the universe is older. Those scientist interpretations are based on "if this" and "if that" and "if something else," then "maybe" the age of the universe is "such."

Geologists who suggest that geology shows the age of the earth, are ignoring a whole lot of geology that suggests a different age.

Biology proves by its complexity that we have always been way off in our understanding of biological processes. The more we get into biology, the more complex we find it to be. Complexity only serves to prove God. I mean, would anyone suggest that dumb nature can create such complexity? Lol.

You have the wrong gods when you trust in scientists' interpretations.

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Good question.

Although the religious can assert beliefs, this is a question demanding facts.

Fully agree with statment of author. I think that religion is very personal thing and I think that the worst thing to do is to promote it and to do it in aggressive way.

You've read my mind. This is exactly my point of view.

''The more we get into biology, the more complex we find it to be'' Stop using the word complexity like that, it doesn't mean what you think it does unless you have some weird definition of complexity, science isn't finding things to be more complex unless you have evidence of such.

^^^ Well, at least you are making your religious belief known... that we shouldn't advance anywhere beyond the complexity of Darwin's day.

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