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April 27, 2019, 04:37:07 PM |
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Is that what Christians look like where you come from? Is that what you think Christians look like? Christians are shirtless redneck white blue eyed blond southern rebels with pump shotguns while the muslim is in white robes with a proper weapon? For not being from where southern rebels exist what do you know about such a person and why would you conflate that with Christians in general? It looks to me like you want to disparage the image of a Christian.. No? I am a Christian by believe but free-spirited by ideology I reside in a place predominantly occupied by Muslims but I have survived here by not enforcing my religious thoughts on others and share understanding.
Are you admitting that you would not survive among muslims as a Christian if you acted like the muslims living among us Christians do?
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April 27, 2019, 04:52:15 PM |
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April 27, 2019, 06:37:42 PM |
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answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?
A: Christian King B: Muslim King
Neither. then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society. And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being? because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally, usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
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Astargath
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April 28, 2019, 11:51:53 AM |
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answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?
A: Christian King B: Muslim King
Neither. then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society. And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being? because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally, usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things.
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April 29, 2019, 03:06:07 PM |
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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,
usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things. The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe. It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe.
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April 29, 2019, 04:17:39 PM |
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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,
usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things. The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe. It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe. USA is much more religious when compared to my country (Canada). Even the American metros such as SF and LA have significant evangelical populations. And another thing is that the US is the primary destination for evangelical immigrants, especially those from South Korea, Vietnam and Latin America. If that was not the case, then Trump would have lose the 2016 elections.
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April 29, 2019, 04:51:57 PM |
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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,
usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things. The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe. It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe. USA is much more religious when compared to my country (Canada). Even the American metros such as SF and LA have significant evangelical populations. And another thing is that the US is the primary destination for evangelical immigrants, especially those from South Korea, Vietnam and Latin America. If that was not the case, then Trump would have lose the 2016 elections. Don't forget the Muslim immigrants. These are basically extreme fundamentalists as far as religious orientation. Where the Christian churches vary widely, and only a few are considered "fundamentalist," all Islamic groups are so.
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Astargath
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April 29, 2019, 09:10:21 PM |
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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,
usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things. The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe. It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe. USA is much more religious when compared to my country (Canada). Even the American metros such as SF and LA have significant evangelical populations. And another thing is that the US is the primary destination for evangelical immigrants, especially those from South Korea, Vietnam and Latin America. If that was not the case, then Trump would have lose the 2016 elections. Don't forget the Muslim immigrants. These are basically extreme fundamentalists as far as religious orientation. Where the Christian churches vary widely, and only a few are considered "fundamentalist," all Islamic groups are so. Well that's certainly true, christians have ''evolved'' in a way, they basically ignore all the immoral passages of the bible and at least try to be somewhat good, muslims are still too outdated, they are basically living in 1500 still.
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April 29, 2019, 09:16:29 PM |
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.... Well that's certainly true, christians have ''evolved'' in a way, they basically ignore all the immoral passages of the bible and at least try to be somewhat good, muslims are still too outdated, they are basically living in 1500 still.
It's fair to say that Christianity has evolved.
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April 30, 2019, 12:02:43 AM |
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^^^ Christianity is trying to save souls for Heaven. When the world evolves into things like the science it has become, Christianity has to evolve to reach evolved people in the way they think... just to save them. However, the base of Christianity - the Bible - hasn't evolved.
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April 30, 2019, 04:21:34 PM |
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.... Well that's certainly true, christians have ''evolved'' in a way, they basically ignore all the immoral passages of the bible and at least try to be somewhat good, muslims are still too outdated, they are basically living in 1500 still.
It's fair to say that Christianity has evolved. I would say that all the major religions have evolved (perhaps with the exception of Islam). But you can still find sections of these religions which have resisted evolution. To give examples, there are the Amish and the FLDS among the Christians, Haredis among the Jews and groups like Jehova's witnesses that avoid modern medicine.
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April 30, 2019, 04:57:23 PM |
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^^^ Christianity is trying to save souls for Heaven. When the world evolves into things like the science it has become, Christianity has to evolve to reach evolved people in the way they think... just to save them. However, the base of Christianity - the Bible - hasn't evolved. Any religion can argue the same thing, they all have heavens or different ways to live forever, reincarnation, etc. Funny thing, god himself wiped out almost all humanity once, doesn't seem like something you would do when you are trying to save souls for heaven.
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April 30, 2019, 05:37:14 PM |
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^^^ If religions say the same thing or not... that's the reason religious people should talk to each other... to find out. If you have a tool that breaks, you can attempt to fix it if you want. But if the tool won't fix, toss it... like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix, in the Flood. Many of the people were hundreds of years old at that time. You are just a child. God is still patient with you.
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Astargath
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April 30, 2019, 05:47:31 PM |
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^^^ If religions say the same thing or not... that's the reason religious people should talk to each other... to find out. If you have a tool that breaks, you can attempt to fix it if you want. But if the tool won't fix, toss it... like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix, in the Flood. Many of the people were hundreds of years old at that time. You are just a child. God is still patient with you. ''like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix'' Why make them in the first place then? Why let them spread again knowing it will happen again? Is he stupid?
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April 30, 2019, 06:00:41 PM |
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^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast?
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May 01, 2019, 12:09:52 PM |
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^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast? Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all?
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May 01, 2019, 01:50:26 PM |
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I think when it comes to religion, it can't be avoided. There's hardly any compromise when people talk about their beliefs. As long as we can't overlook which god is the real one, there will always be divisions among us. At this time and i age, you would have thought that we're already beyond religious squabbles but no, sadly there will always be those that will force their beliefs in others.
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May 01, 2019, 02:37:43 PM |
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^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast? Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all? Remember God's words to Adam and Eve in the garden? "The day you eat of it you will surely die." Even though they were walking around like they were alive, they were already dead in spirit, because they willingly, freely, ate. They removed themselves from free will when they killed themselves. Their children were dead, even though the machinery of their bodies and minds appeared to be alive. Why? You can't get life out of something that is dead. Spiritually, they were dead already. The body and mind were made so well by god that they seemed to remain alive for centuries (in some cases) even though the spirits were dead already. There is only one way to come back to life. That is to believe in Jesus salvation. With faith life is renewed by God. "You are gods, to whom the Word of God comes." This doesn't mean simply reading it. It means a penetration of the Spirit of the Word into the heart and soul of the reader. Such believers never die, even when their bodies are dead.
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May 02, 2019, 02:32:39 PM |
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^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast? Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all? Remember God's words to Adam and Eve in the garden? "The day you eat of it you will surely die." Even though they were walking around like they were alive, they were already dead in spirit, because they willingly, freely, ate. They removed themselves from free will when they killed themselves. Their children were dead, even though the machinery of their bodies and minds appeared to be alive. Why? You can't get life out of something that is dead. Spiritually, they were dead already. The body and mind were made so well by god that they seemed to remain alive for centuries (in some cases) even though the spirits were dead already. There is only one way to come back to life. That is to believe in Jesus salvation. With faith life is renewed by God. "You are gods, to whom the Word of God comes." This doesn't mean simply reading it. It means a penetration of the Spirit of the Word into the heart and soul of the reader. Such believers never die, even when their bodies are dead. Great argument, why didn't god get rid of Adam and Eve after they ate the fruit if their spirits and the spirits of their children were already dead? Why wait until the population was big to kill everyone instead of doing it at the start? LOL
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May 02, 2019, 03:52:59 PM |
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^^^ God tells us in Proverbs, through Solomon, that whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your strength... because there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going. God is taking His own advice. And when God does something with His strength, it isn't easy to even change gears. Consider the car that is moving at 100 mph. It doesn't stop easily except with disastrous results, by the semi moving in the opposite direction. God is fantastically great. Even He doesn't change His own direction when He sets something in place with His strength. What did God have set in place regarding Adam and Eve? Genesis 1:28: God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground." When did God set this in place? Before they ate of the fruit, not after. It was God's plan, His goal, His desire, that He was doing with His strength. Is God getting what He wants? Yes! He wound up sending His son, Jesus, to get what He wants... and also to fulfill the last part of what Solomon said, above, that "there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going." Even Jesus/God went to the grave (although He arose afterward), to fulfill the desire-strength of God that mankind fulfill the earth. The future is this... a New Heavens and New Earth - a new universe - for all who rely on God's strength in Jesus-God-salvation. What happens to the others is their own doing. Turn while you have a chance.
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