Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence

[Astargath]

^^^ God tells us in Proverbs, through Solomon, that whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your strength... because there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going.

God is taking His own advice. And when God does something with His strength, it isn't easy to even change gears. Consider the car that is moving at 100 mph. It doesn't stop easily except with disastrous results, by the semi moving in the opposite direction. God is fantastically great. Even He doesn't change His own direction when He sets something in place with His strength.

What did God have set in place regarding Adam and Eve? Genesis 1:28:

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

When did God set this in place? Before they ate of the fruit, not after. It was God's plan, His goal, His desire, that He was doing with His strength.

Is God getting what He wants? Yes! He wound up sending His son, Jesus, to get what He wants... and also to fulfill the last part of what Solomon said, above, that "there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going." Even Jesus/God went to the grave (although He arose afterward), to fulfill the desire-strength of God that mankind fulfill the earth.

The future is this... a New Heavens and New Earth - a new universe - for all who rely on God's strength in Jesus-God-salvation. What happens to the others is their own doing.

Turn while you have a chance.

That was a whole paragraph of nothing related to what I said.

You argued that Adam and Eve lost their 'spirit' or 'soul' when they ate the fruit and everyone after that had no soul either so when god killed everyone, it was fine. The question is, why not do it earlier? Why not simply kill adam and eve and start again, what's the point of waiting, to kill more people at once?

[okala]

One major factor that constitutes violence is clash of religious beliefs. So many has lost husband, wives, sisters, brothers, children, friends and loved ones due to attacks bored by religious beliefs.

   How can we stop clashes of religious beliefs
Be you a Christian, Muslim etc or even of no believe one major way to coexist together is upholding mutual respect
Most time we fined our self being a fan of a particular believe than actually being religious or practising that believe that why the burning hate for others who don't share the same believe is strong.

I am a Christian by believe but free-spirited by ideology I reside in a place predominantly occupied by Muslims but I have survived here by not enforcing my religious thoughts on others and share understanding......

Your own words say it all.

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King

B: Muslim King

Right from time we know who control the money in our country it the government no matter what the religion of the leader is either a Muslim or Christian we must learn to leave in peace in other for development to happen.

[BADecker]

That was a whole paragraph of nothing related to what I said.

You argued that Adam and Eve lost their 'spirit' or 'soul' when they ate the fruit and everyone after that had no soul either so when god killed everyone, it was fine. The question is, why not do it earlier? Why not simply kill adam and eve and start again, what's the point of waiting, to kill more people at once?

God wants people alive. Even if they kill themselves, he wants them alive. Some of them will accept life when given a second chance. Some of them won't. This is the way to prove it out.

In the Judgment, God will have the ones He wants alive. He will have found out which ones don't want life. But for the people, they will have proven it to themselves.

Why start again? Broken record. Rather, get the results.

When you get to the Judgment, you can ask God about the wisdom of His ways. Whatever the wisdom of His ways is, the point from our position is to be saved alive.

Turn while you can.

[Astargath]

That was a whole paragraph of nothing related to what I said.

You argued that Adam and Eve lost their 'spirit' or 'soul' when they ate the fruit and everyone after that had no soul either so when god killed everyone, it was fine. The question is, why not do it earlier? Why not simply kill adam and eve and start again, what's the point of waiting, to kill more people at once?

God wants people alive. Even if they kill themselves, he wants them alive. Some of them will accept life when given a second chance. Some of them won't. This is the way to prove it out.

In the Judgment, God will have the ones He wants alive. He will have found out which ones don't want life. But for the people, they will have proven it to themselves.

Why start again? Broken record. Rather, get the results.

When you get to the Judgment, you can ask God about the wisdom of His ways. Whatever the wisdom of His ways is, the point from our position is to be saved alive.

Turn while you can.

This doesn't answer the question though. If god wants people alive, why kill 99.99% of them?

[BADecker]

^^^ I know. Asking the same questions over and over, in the wrong direction, is a favorite of yours. I can't really say that you are a troll. But there are some trollish things in doing such.

Get it through your head, God didn't kill anybody. The most He did was to follow the requests of people that they be put to death, and expedite what might have taken many more years otherwise.

Why did He do even this if He wanted them to be alive? Because life wasn't all that He wanted out of them. He also wanted a loving relationship with them. That's why He sent Jesus to save people... so that they could reconsider (in your case, many times), and make a final choice for death or life.

Will some reconsider? Yes. Some will reconsider, and accept the renewed life that God wants for them. So, God will get what He wants. The giving of the gift of life for people who want a relationship with Him; the gift of a living death for those who really want it (of course, nobody really wants death).

All that atheism is, is a foolish idea that somehow people can believe God out of existence. But they don't really want to die. Rather, they want renewed health without God. So, God will even give them that.

How will God give atheists life without God yet without death at the same time? Jesus won life for them when He did His work on the cross. Jesus's work gives atheists life, just as it gives everybody else life - life for all in the resurrection.

Since everyone has life from Jesus as a gift of God to look forward to, what are Hell and Heaven all about? They are about two things:
1. The gift of living forever with God - Heaven - joy, peace, hope, forever;
2. The gift of living forever without God - Hell - no joy, peace, or hope, but instead, continually being destroyed and renewed for more destruction, forever.

Atheists are asking by their atheism that there be no God for them. That's part of the reason why they hate religion. Religion is causing them to doubt their desire for no God. Even religions that don't have a god are causing atheists to think, a little, that there might be a god. Even the religion of atheism thrusts them into the position of being god in their own lives.

Atheists hate religion because it forces them to recognize one way or another that God exists. Since He exists, why not turn and be friends with Him and live with Him in the joys of Heaven? Why end up living without Him in the continual destruction of Hell?

[Astargath]

^^^ I know. Asking the same questions over and over, in the wrong direction, is a favorite of yours. I can't really say that you are a troll. But there are some trollish things in doing such.

Get it through your head, God didn't kill anybody. The most He did was to follow the requests of people that they be put to death, and expedite what might have taken many more years otherwise.

Why did He do even this if He wanted them to be alive? Because life wasn't all that He wanted out of them. He also wanted a loving relationship with them. That's why He sent Jesus to save people... so that they could reconsider (in your case, many times), and make a final choice for death or life.

Will some reconsider? Yes. Some will reconsider, and accept the renewed life that God wants for them. So, God will get what He wants. The giving of the gift of life for people who want a relationship with Him; the gift of a living death for those who really want it (of course, nobody really wants death).

All that atheism is, is a foolish idea that somehow people can believe God out of existence. But they don't really want to die. Rather, they want renewed health without God. So, God will even give them that.

How will God give atheists life without God yet without death at the same time? Jesus won life for them when He did His work on the cross. Jesus's work gives atheists life, just as it gives everybody else life - life for all in the resurrection.

Since everyone has life from Jesus as a gift of God to look forward to, what are Hell and Heaven all about? They are about two things:
1. The gift of living forever with God - Heaven - joy, peace, hope, forever;
2. The gift of living forever without God - Hell - no joy, peace, or hope, but instead, continually being destroyed and renewed for more destruction, forever.

Atheists are asking by their atheism that there be no God for them. That's part of the reason why they hate religion. Religion is causing them to doubt their desire for no God. Even religions that don't have a god are causing atheists to think, a little, that there might be a god. Even the religion of atheism thrusts them into the position of being god in their own lives.

Atheists hate religion because it forces them to recognize one way or another that God exists. Since He exists, why not turn and be friends with Him and live with Him in the joys of Heaven? Why end up living without Him in the continual destruction of Hell?

Scenario 1: God kills Adam and Eve after they sin and starts again

Scenario 2: God lets Adam and Eve live and have children to multiply just to eventually kill everyone anyways but later on so instead of killing 2 people, he kills hundreds of thousands just to start over again.


Scenario 1 statistics (2 deaths) (a few months/years wasted)
Result from scenario 1: Starting over again

Scenario 2 statistics (hundreds of thousands of deaths) (A lot of years wasted)
Result from scenario 2: Starting over again

God chose scenario 2, he is dumb.

[BADecker]

^^^ You forgot Scenario 3: God makes good people because He wants good people for whatever His reasons.

Then the people turn bad because they don't realize the dangers of badness, and they want to test badness out.

Then God saves people to get some good ones out of them like He wanted in the first place. But He still gives them their free choice.

In the future, God will separate the good ones who want to be with Him, from the bad ones who want to be apart from Him. Of course, those who want to be apart from Him aren't of any use to Him, and He did all He could to get them to want to accept Him, so get rid of them since they won't accept.

It was interesting knowing you, Astargath.

[Astargath]

^^^ You forgot Scenario 3: God makes good people because He wants good people for whatever His reasons.

Then the people turn bad because they don't realize the dangers of badness, and they want to test badness out.

Then God saves people to get some good ones out of them like He wanted in the first place. But He still gives them their free choice.

In the future, God will separate the good ones who want to be with Him, from the bad ones who want to be apart from Him. Of course, those who want to be apart from Him aren't of any use to Him, and He did all He could to get them to want to accept Him, so get rid of them since they won't accept.

It was interesting knowing you, Astargath.

Where in your scenario does god kill almost everyone again?

[BADecker]

^^^ Which god are you talking about?     

[Astargath]

^^^ Which god are you talking about?     

I like your little tactics trying to avoid the question. God murdered almost everyone with the flood, the question was, why do it then and not at the beginning, if he is going to ignore their free will and kill all of them, why not do it at the start?

[BADecker]

Why do you think that God murdered anybody? The pre-Flood people were attempting to kill themselves off. He simply got tired of holding them alive, knowing that they were going to continue to fight His giving of life to them. So He expedited their death request for them.

You completely have your general thinking about this backwards. God's loving mercy maintains all people. And, it maintains the little bit of free will they have. Keep it up. God will "tire" of maintaining your life in the face of all the ridicule He gets from you, just like he tired of the ridicule from the pre-Flood people.

[Astargath]

Why do you think that God murdered anybody? The pre-Flood people were attempting to kill themselves off. He simply got tired of holding them alive, knowing that they were going to continue to fight His giving of life to them. So He expedited their death request for them.

You completely have your general thinking about this backwards. God's loving mercy maintains all people. And, it maintains the little bit of free will they have. Keep it up. God will "tire" of maintaining your life in the face of all the ridicule He gets from you, just like he tired of the ridicule from the pre-Flood people.

God got "tired" of keeping them alive? Do you even read what you type? A god cannot get tired dumbass. You are delusional. An omniscient, all powerful, all knowing being simply cannot be angry or tired by definition, do you even understand that simple concept?

[Siren]

Religion is always been the roots of many killings from places to places and this is very alarming

But i agreed on what OP wanted to say here,i had been once a victim of religious war since i was born as Christian but living in muslim place so in some instance there are fighting and killing but i never put any hardship in my heart instead i aim for peace as religion is only a beliefs but we human has our own goodness un heart so now as i grow old i had lots of friend that muslim and we are not talking about religious things

[yeosaga]

This image tells a story just by the firearms being used.

[Spendulus]

This image tells a story just by the firearms being used.

One is saying "fuck off!" and the other "Allah Akbar?!"

[yeosaga]

This image tells a story just by the firearms being used.

One is saying "fuck off!" and the other "Allah Akbar?!"

Most shotguns are defensive, and most ak47 are for spraying bullets.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In a well-known book that talks about human philosophy, they explain this topic very well, they say that humanity is a race that always tries to make everything live in chaos, the human being by nature will always look for the shock, the fight, a In the ways that have been achieved since the beginning of time both by governments and those who have global control, is to control people through religion.

Religion makes people begin to believe and have better behaviors before the events and events that live on a daily basis, obviously, religion does not have that focus, but control is directed with all those tools, such as religion, politics , which makes people try to take some measure in their actions.

All this makes people take into account that the best thing to do is to obtain peace, not wars, because in wars there would be much more cruelty than there is normally in the world, although world control has begun from the beginning. religion. In my case, if I have the full conviction of a Heavenly Father God Being, I see it as a whole, as the only one, but religion, I do not believe, because every religion has its norms that often are not what Jesus Christ proclaimed.

[BADecker]

^^^ And Jesus's biggest, first instruction for us is to spread the Gospel. Now all we have to do is figure out if spreading the Gospel is a religious activity.

[Astargath]

^^^ And Jesus's biggest, first instruction for us is to spread the Gospel. Now all we have to do is figure out if spreading the Gospel is a religious activity.

And God's biggest action was to wipe out the whole world except a few people, that isn't very helpful when you are trying to spread the Gospel, is it? Perhaps Jesus and God are angry and each other and they do opposite things.

[coin-investor]

I'm glad I'm in a country where there is liberalism and we accept and adhere to freedom of religion, religion is not an issue among us here, but younger generation tend to disrespect some religious beliefs that di not conform to their belief, this is something that we have to live and fight if we want to have a civilized society.