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I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.

This has been tackled before and you can't stop those people to blame bounty hunters for their losses. They tend to blame anyone that they want because of the losses that they are already making. It's the sad truth that whenever something bad happens to you, you tend to blame someone with your misfortune. Yes, allocation with bounty hunters are too low to think that they are the reason and cause for a tokens dumping. The eye has been set for them and ignoring those developers that holds the largest allocation.

Yes you are right the biggest reasons for dumps are the tokens given to team members and developers by the owner of the project and secondly the big bonuses to the early and big investors they just sell to take out their seed money as soon as possible.

Tokensale bonuses is a very bad idea and it's the most dangerous way to make a coin or token lose value, the fault is really not from bounty hunters ,its from the developers themselves

Blaming the bounty hunter, I think it's a very bad thing. Prize hunters have a positive influence because they help promote your project. And sometimes this bounty hunter becomes an investor. So I agree if they have to stop blaming the bounty hunter.

It is what people do, blame everyone else but themselves. What you are saying is accurate. It does not help that bounty hunters are dumping their tokens the minute it is available in exchanges but they should not be blamed. Bounty hunters did their job and they deserve to get the money they deserve. If the project is solid, it should not be a problem. They can easily recover it from new investors.

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You are very right, most project team just keep blaming hunters for spoiling their token price, meanwhile some of this team are the one dumping 35% of their token and spoiling the price on exchange site before even distributing reward to hunters.

Usually the bonus applied to the tokensale is to increase the interest in the coin for the sake of increasing buyers, even though in fact it is very dangerous for the price of the coin itself, only the developer must also attract interested parties to coins that are in tokensale.

First of all, most assets are not secured. Applications do not work, there is no infrastructure, almost no marketing. It is foolish to make a listing of coins on the stock exchange, if they are not in demand. And then we can talk about investors and bounty hunters.

this is the reality, there are still many people who blame the bounty hunter. even the development team itself sometimes blames bounty participants, they actually know that dumps are caused by investors. imagine me only with an allocation of less than 5% and maybe each participant gets the most 0.005%. isn't that very unlikely.

if they blamming bounty hunter when their token / coin dump thats absolutely wrong

how can 1% - 5 % from total supply give effect of total 100 % supply
its totaly their team failure can't handle the dumper

I agree with you, they shouldn't need to blame others. the only reason why there is a dump is that project, if they can convince investors it won't dump on the market. but unfortunately developers like not caring about development after the coin has been listed on the exchange.

Indeed people blaming anyone for their lose, because this is how most people feel and they always try to find someone who can blame for their loses, but indeed 5% of coins should not affect the price so much maybe the project is not good and this affect the price.

It is a common accusation, I have even seen it made on projects were the coins got dumped and the bounty tokens had not even been distributed. The biggest cause of coin dumping is people who got large discounts in the presale or private sale. As a rule if coins have been offered at a discount greater than 10% without incurring a hold period I won't be buying them.

It is not the bounty hunters who let their projects to fail because most investors and developers are the ones who dump first before the project even start to manage to recover. And they can't blame those bounty hunters to dump too since they were doing their best to earn some profit which most of them doesn't really get a profit when most projects fail and their hard work has gone to nothing.

Like people used to say 'lame people blame people' the moment you start putting your blames on others it will be hard to prosper ,learn to take your blames so that you can work on your mistakes and fix them,when you wrongly picked ICO projects to promote just take heart and find better ones ,either its developers fault that dumps first or others

      We, bounty hunters will always be guilty of their mistakes. Most of the project coins are reserved for the team. The role of reward hunters is very important because they help promote the project and thus normally increase the price of the coin by finding potential investors.
The amount of coins allocated to reward hunters is between 1-5%. So, not the bounty hunters are to blame for the price of the currency drops after listing. Only team members are to blame, because investors do not trust the project.

It's true what you say, but at least, their team can anticipate everything that will happen, like a drastic drop in prices, some teams must help keep prices from falling too far by buying it back, it might be very helpful so that the price of their tokens can last a long time. looking for who is wrong will not solve the problem of falling prices  :D

The majority of our community still does not understand that the main reason for the token dumping is the lack of marketing and good team decisions. Hunters are not dumping a coin by -25x from the ICO price.

Because people cannot be held accountable for themselves and for their actions, it is such people who usually cannot say for sure that in the end they did not do it in such a way as to really have a result. I think that such people always swear at others.

Definitely we don't know what is happening in the future so blaming someone for the losses is not been a right that in any kind of situation because Crypto market is not predictable by anyone so if something happened to our investment leave that the past is past it will not come again so blaming anyone is not being the solution for that.

Of course, you yourself are responsible for your investments. The project may lose its funds at any time and so do you, so before investing, check the project so that you do not complain about your failures.

Bounty hunters are less likely to be investors. They are the ones who work to earn and they have rights to liquidate their payout. That's a reason bounty hunters are always the ones to blame if a project's token price fell. Another reason is because in any condition, most people including me, have a little pride that make us easier to blame others than ourselves.

And many of the projects that are on the CMC is a scam in one form or another, of course their price will be a dump. Even in good projects sometimes there is simply no one to invest.

I think that this is generally nonsense, if a person cannot see his guilt in his failures.  Any action or inaction is primarily a person’s personal choice, so it makes no sense to talk about how strongly, for example, someone agitated to invest in cryptocurrency, because in any case, everyone made the choice himself.

Most of the project that held the bounty campaign are trash, simple as that. Remember the Icon, Zilliqa, IOST, Aion etc. campaigns? They have all run bounties and are still in strong top 100 MC positions. Why? Because they are competent and are not just plain money grabs. The guilt of failure is solely on team members of the projects and their poor decisions.

the success and defeat are only faced by the investors if it was successful also then the profit will be come under your hands and it will be same for defeat also so if train was meant was going round then the blame was also being faced by only you this is the thing that anyone putting the pressure under every investors at the end if it was not successful.

Of course, bounty hunters do not play a significant role in dumping new tokens after transferring them to the stock exchange. Tokens fall in price where ICO teams do not provide for signature campaigns in their ICO.
A few percent of the tokens that are allocated to bounty hunters are of secondary importance compared to the total number of tokens that early investors receive with significant discounts. It is very profitable for them to buy tokens with a discount of 40, 50 and even 70 percent and immediately sell them on the exchange at the price of ICO. Therefore, indeed, the participants of the ICO bounty campaigns cannot significantly influence the price reduction of new tokens; the main role is played by investors' actions.

You just depreciate the power of bounty tokens. After the bounty, teams usually extends the bounty token distribution time for a perfect reason. They first want to list their token on the exchanges and want to pay the bounty tokens later.

Not a new thing actually where people do always blame out bounty hunters when they do saw a price drop of the token without even realizing that the main reason
why it dropped is on its investors itself. 5% is too much because most bounty token allocation is on 2-3% as far as I remember.

Fully agree with you.  Headhunters have a small percentage of the bounty rewards.  I strongly doubt that 2-5% can have a strong influence on the price of the entire volume, and hunters do not always sell at the first listing, many hold.  Conclusion, do not blame bounty hunters.

Most of them do not know the peak period of the bounty is the last months of 2017 and early 2018. When the market is very active, and with a few dozen or a few hundred thousand dollars, it is impossible to make a coin dump. And then start on bear market, chaos has created a dump for the whole market. That is the main cause, not caused by bounty hunter

I have always made my point clear that any good project will succeed no matter any conditions and any project that base it failure upon bounty Hunter dumping after ICO and listening is just looking for way of exit, because bounty hunters can not do any harm to a good project because they just make up a small percentage.

Bounty hunters actully help projects create hype so they benefit the price much more than the opposite. It is so ridiculous to think the opposite!

I think that for everything that we ourselves do, we must be responsible.  Can we blame someone?  I still like it when they ask what the content is and then they believe the one who sowed that he cannot earn money.

Exactly.
Most projects dump because of the high discount that the team offer to investors.
Even after some withheld bounty hunters rewards for months ,the price of their country continuous to fall .
So technically, it's the  investors that are dumping .

I certainly agree with you. It's disappointing to know the failure of new projects is being blamed to bounty hunters who are only rewarded few and small valued coins.
They have worked for it yet the blame is still on them which is really frustrating because bounty hunters played a vital role in their token sale. If a project is really successful, no dumping activity could fail them.

The last year of the ICO team in general rarely pay off bounty hunters. In most cases, they delay it and the fear of a fall in the price of tokens after payments and transfer of tokens to the stock exchange plays a significant role here. I have many ICO campaigns that have not paid theirs. tokens since last year. At the same time, I would not say that these are fraudulent projects.
It’s no use accusing each other now. The situation with the activities of the ICO is now generally very difficult.

Technically investors and bounty hunters are also not to blame ,there is nothing wrong here ,it could be that the project team already has a strategy and all have their own roles its difficult to Say it ,but I think about the most indeed project is not good enough to compete in cryptocurrency

That is actually one of the characteristics of failures, they blame people for their looses. No matter how much you believe a crypto evangelist, you should never forget to do your own research and have preferences too. I myself can't invest in projects with over 20 percent bonus to investors and over 40 percent of tokens available for crowdsale

I think those who think or say that bounty hunters are the cause of dump of coins, should try looking into projects that gave not paid bounty hunters, but have started trading, you will notice the rate at which they dump.
I know you will not but wonder how people think and the next they come up with is to sell at loss.

Yeah this is the sad reality when it comes to bounties and we bounty hunters are blamed for dumping our tokens even when the world knows how much we only have received from the bounty program. Investors did more devastating effect when they are going to dump because they have the much higher percentage of tokens compared to those bounty allocation. They even say that bounty hunters has to undergo KYC and funds will be freezed so that we can't dump on exchanges. Are you kidding me? Isn't it unfair?

That is a well said statement its true that most of the dumping is caused by investors, only small part of the bounty hunters contribute the dumping, but I think the bounty hunters allocation usually is more than 5% and people need something to blame when something is going wrong and the bounty hunters will be an easier target for that

I think the best solution possible in order to fix that issue is to provide a salary fixed to their developers and team. I wonder because they are actually working on the same building and I don't think that they are so far away to use their token as a payment for the job or salary. They should have a better hiring process as well.

I agree with you but this investors keep blaming it all on bounty hunters, i think this project offer this investors too much bonuses and the project don't list on good exchange so when the token is listed the investors try to sell as soon as possible so as to make enough return from their investment , thats why i wonder how 1% of bounty would dump project

Sometimes project team itself selling their tokens to make profits but holding the hunters rewards to restrict from price dumps. ::)

We can't do anything about it,if there is no bounty hunters then the chances of ICO to be successful is less so who is on the upper hand.Lets decide what we have to do guys.

I fully agree with the author of the topic. Bounty hunters cannot affect the price of a coin. The bounty reward is quite small (as a rule, 1-2% of the total number of tokens). With such a volume it is impossible to influence the market!
Thus, I consider that all the accusations against the bounty hunters in the collapse of the price are groundless.

It's a very long argument if bounty hunters are the one really dumping those coins, and we have a solid proof that it's not bounty hunters because of their stakes that are so small that it will not have an impact in the market, whales just come and go to the project and them likely to invest if they see a big bonus, just do the math and we'll see that whales have a hand on this.

Why blame others for your failure? You must accept your failure in order to grow and you need those failure to gain some experiences about life especially losses in your life. Just like for example when you are playing a crypto casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/wild-pixies?utm_source=ccwp) when you lose in a gambling way of earning money, don't blame others because it is your decision to play some games in order for you to earn more money. Don't blame others because of your failure to do so.

I agree with you mate ! It really not necessary to blame bounty hunters for the dumping of tokens for the reasons that the amount of token allocated to bounties are usually below 5%, in this case there is no chance that the price of token will be affected unless there are some other holders of that token that sell theirs aside from bounty hunters. And at the first place, bounty hunters are the ones who help the ICO more successful in the way of promoting.

I would say that the 5% allocation is overly generous. Most only offer around 2% of the tokens sold at ICO and only half of those would be dumped by the bounty hunters, others might choose to hodl for better returns

The thing is that people probably simply cannot do this without it, because they are not ready to take responsibility for themselves, and I think that it is for this reason that people begin to blame the environment, this is how it looks today, but this is clearly not good.

It is very common to always see people shifting blames when something is not working for them. Even if the bounty hunters dump, for a good project, there will always be people buying back from the hunters and as such the project is not supposed to crash as a result of that.

That's what I often hear too, when a dump occurs and always the bounty hunter is definitely blamed, somehow it happened. What you think about is the same as mine. Investing in a project certainly gets a bonus and the amount can also be said to be large. If a dump occurs, please don't blame anyone. Because that's the crypto market, anything can happen. Can it be a dump or pump.

Anyone to blame is a completely ungrateful business. The number of tokens distributed for participation in the Bounty - company, especially cannot affect the quotations on the stock exchange, if the project team and large investors do not participate in the deliberate collapse. Therefore, bounty hunters are to blame for everything that happens last.

The other reason mostly people who invested in the ICOs and IEOs projects they are not investors, they just the employee mentality which want get rich in cryptocurrencies, even they don't know anything about the basic knowledge about the investment, so when they have failed in cryptocurrencies will be easy to blame other people than learn more about the investment in cryptocurrencies.

just put blame on bounty hunters, they dont know when bounty hunter help the developers promote their project to get investor, when the prices drop after listing the reason not just cuz bounty hunters, its can some people want profit with short term so they sell it

I do not think its the sudden dump on new tokens that really destroys the value, that drop should be expected after all if you are giving people away money that is literally free than they will be selling it for sure, the problem is what happens afterwards. For example if a coin starts out and than it gets down because of the dump however manages to slowly recover and eat up all that sell orders and than go back to what it used to be and than even much more after that it means its a good coin.

Moreover, if it drops than it stays like that and even go lower because people lose faith in that coin than I am sorry but it kind of deserved to be there to begin with. Its not the dump that kills the coin its the activity and the amount of work the team puts into recovering from the dump.

It is not only the bounty hunters. If you manage to understand what is going on you'll see how much for the bounty hunters the tokens that they already claimed. They are holding it. They spend their time in promoting project so that they are waiting for it to increase. Many of the people didn't understand that.

There are several reasons of such dumps usually:
1) Bonuses for private sales, presales, pools etc.
2) Advisors and team salary paid in tokens.
3) Bounty/airdrops. How can 5% pool dump the token? Easily. Watch the volumes on the exchanges and you will see how this works. Bounty hunters are able to sell at any cost, they treat their salary as a gift. This situation can cause a dramatic dump easily.

That topic has been discussed numerous of time now and anyone with little common sense will see it clear that bounty hunters have nothing to do with price dumping once token/coin listed on n exchange. In fact, the real reason is the huge bonuses that were given for investors to encourage them to invest these bonuses is crazy big, for example, in one project I joined before the bonus was 120% and that is the public bonus and we all know that there is come deals always happen behind closed doors with big groups that want to buy a huge amount I can keep on and on but ya I guess I made my case. Private investors and early investors can sometimes sell with 5% of the real price and still make a good profit so please stop blam bounty hunter and start to blame your stupid marketing and finance team that agreed on this crazy bonuses.

Bounty hunters are not the causes of the dumping because 5% or 7% at most allocated to bounty hunters can't be lead to dumping of project but the major reason of this is cause by investors with huge investment because no matter how much they sell when the project is listed in exchange they will still make profit.

Because it triggers an illiquid market, imagine if a new launched ICO tokens have the same market cap with let said ETH, bounty hunter dumping their token will not making the prices crash.

Another note, people will tend to blame the other, cos the frustrated etc.

Early investors and the team itself are the big factors of projects being dumped inside the exchange, they have the big influence as they always have huge numbers of tokens inside their wallets, seriously speaking 1-5% won't hurt the actual collected funds, so there's no sense even the hunters dumped all together, that's just small amount of tokens actual capital from the ico's.

Investors invest because of profit and it won't be stopped. The recycle will continue that investors will seek for projects that has the potential, what's that real potential? we all seek to have that project to generate potential profit for our money. And investors are bound to dump that project if they see that its market starts to shatter. As for the devs, there are good ones that stays to the project and longs to develop the most of it while some are just abandoning when they've earned enough and just create another one.

Because it is more easier to say that everyone is responsible for my failure, than who is really responsible for it. Everything what you do in your life depends on a time and effort what you give to it. If you invested and market crashed, then it is your failure that you didn´t predict it based on deep market research.  8)

Don't mind them, they always look for someone to blame for the failure of a project and the set of people to be easily blame are the bounty hunters. U have seen project before that delay paying bounty hunters, yet it dumped badly. As you mentioned in your post, what usually dump project most is the ridiculous bonuses that the team give during the private sale and presale.

Unfortunately it's true. No one wants to be responsible for their actions. Everyone is looking for the guilty. But this position causes only negative. Bounty hunters spread the word about projects and get pennies for it and at the same time they are considered the culprits of all troubles.

 I do not think that bounty hunters are the main culprits of project failures. Most projects cheat bounty hunters and do not pay them earned rewards or pay very little.

Naturally losers find a fault or someone to fault when they are at loss and that’s why they make more losses
Instead of learning from past mistakes and improve decision skills; they make more weird mistakes which leaves them blame again again and again

Crypto currency simply is not for people who wouldn’t learn

Don’t blame; learn and move on

That is right not the bounty hunters are going to blame for the price dump because they have only small percent from the allocation and i guess the investors during the pre sale are the responsible for price dump because they got huge of bonuses from the ICO.

Do you know how many percent of the total number of project tokens are paid to bounty hunters? 1-2% maximum.
Do you think such a number of tokens can derail the price of a successful project? I think not.

Surely this is not good to blame other people because if you invested your money you were the only responsible for your profit or lose, try to manage yourself and never make mistake you will regert in future, joining bounty and signature campaign is good for you to join, I know now a day ratting is not so high but it will not take much time to recover.

if someone says if the bounty hunter is the cause of the dump then I would say that person is very stupid or might not have any experience here

if calculated, the bounty hunter has an important role in changing the price of a coin. even if the total coins in circulation are so large in percentage. nothing can be blamed, this depends on the strategy of ourselves.

The easiest is to blame bounty hunters for dumping instead of admitting that the project has no working product with real use case and active development.

Indeed bounty campaign hunters have always been the scapegoat for every issue of price tokens that dump on the market. In my opinion, it is unfair because only bounty campaign hunters are considered to cause coin dumps on the market. It is true that bounty campaign hunters hold a percentage of coins that are not more than 5% so a dump is more likely caused by a 95% coin holder. We should not blame bounty campaign hunters because they are also very instrumental in making this project work well. They are the ones who have got many investors for the success of this project. As ICO developers, we should be smarter in achieving the causes that make this event happen.

these are only common with projects that dont do well . so they try to give hunters the blame when price dips. but when a project is doing very well, no one will remember this.

If the project are good and worth to hold, i think the will ignore the price. Many factors why investor or hunters dump their token and market condition is one of the reason. Beside that, the project itself is important to gain investor trust to hold, if worth to hold for long term, i am believe holder will not sell it at cheap price

Basically, when thinking about the matter how they provide allocation for the bounty hunters, these allocation is not quite good enough to let the entire project to go down. So, If they are blaming the hunters, I think they are just somehow want someone to be blame and to pass the attention to when they are really the one incompetent.

People who blame bounty hunters in dump just want blame someone and don't want think about real reason of dumped. I believe a big bonuses on  private sell is a main reason why i should not invest in this project, because it will be dumped by private investors for sure, just after listing.

People need someone to blame. It's easier to blame bounty hunters than to analyze and understand the discounts provided during token sale and the amount of coin paid to the team. That's why I almost stopped participating in the bounty, the rewards are minimal, but at every step I hear the allegations that the hunters dumped the price.

Indeed, 5% is impossible to turn the table around. Such percentage amount should not too affecting price of overall.
But normally, bounties are having reward pool around 1-2% only, so it will be more impossible for hunters to make the price dump.
There might be something wrong about the project, making the investors sold their tokens.

No team with capacity to sustain they coin will blame bounty hunter for dumping after ICO after all the bounty hunter worked for the rewards so at that they are at free will to do what ever they wish with they coins after ICO. Some team have what we call buy back mechanism because they want to avoid dump and sustainn they market value from dumpers. If a project have a good foundation with working product to support the token they will never be afraid of dump because they already have an existing ecosystem to back they coin up after listing into the exchange.

Bounty hunters are made into scapegoats because they sell their tokens typically, but on the flipside they bring more brand awareness for projects. From what I gather, projects raising substantial sums tend to be less affected by bounty hunter selling. Perhaps the ability to withstand such selling is one way to gauge the overall strength of a project.

No one has to be blamed if its for the bounty hunters. Before I'm actually thinking that they really are moving the prices into the lowest whenever most of them starts to dump but hell no, the allocation made for them is around 1% of total supply or somewhere near that percentage. And I don't think that will actually hurt the market of that specific coin because of the bounty hunters.

Yes. They are turning the attention into some other people to be blamed with.

It seems to me that it all understood long ago that bounty hunters aren't guilty of falling of the price.They have too small a volume of coins to drop the price.And then not all bounty hunters immediately sell their coins.Many have a long-term strategy.

Hard to disagree with this or with the OP. If any project manage to get $1 million in cash or BTC/ETH then they can make about 5% of free tokens to drop. But too often it is the early investors or shady developers dump the token as soon token hits the exchange. A few days ago I was waiting to see what would be the opening price of Terawatt's LED price on IDEX, then suddenly there was about 300k LED dumped on IDEX for about 0.3 ETH and bounty hunters still have not received their rewards.

This topic is already so chewed that many express not their opinions, but they are drifting.  Of course, Bounty Hunters are not to blame, because they can also be meaninglessly blamed for the full-scale fall in the cryptocurrency market as early as 2018.

ICO developers know that offering a big bonus is one way to entice big investors, to invest in their project, without a bonus and a big hype in ICO it cannot attract big investors to invest, I also believe that these bonuses, can harm the ICO when it hit the market, and this is actually what is happening.

I think this issue is not new and common now. Every coin of ico projects that is listed right away and decreases its price continuosly in a decreasing point, they blame bounty hunters, they would say that bounty hunters sell their tokens right away yet if they only knew that the total allocated tokens to be distributed is only a few peecentage like 2 to 3 percent. They are blaming the wrong people.

When such a thing happens, it should not blame the bounty hunter. The project team should be able to consider repurchasing and reduce the market for dumping. Smart investors also buy more cryptocurrencies at very low prices.

I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.

Yes, it is understood only by those people who are involved in the bounty. It is obvious that we can not greatly influence the price, but it is not clear who needs to dump the price there.

Well they just need to blame someone when their project falls apart. I have this project this early 2019, blames the bounty hunter because of the price dumps then some of the private investors pull of their investment. Then the team blaming the bounty hunters for this, which I think is not the main reason. The main reason about their token dump is because they have their own product yet.

It's not clear as the devs will denies their involvement for sure, but again hunters don't have that capabilities as they only have small portions of the tokens, many people knows that it's possible that a big investors or holders aside from dev can fully manipulated everything.

That reason only the blackmail for covering the real problem.
It's human nature ,right ?

It's reasonable for not give all portion of the bounty for the hunter because it will break their project's market

I have met many projects that blame such bounty hunters. They cannot control the total distribution for bonuses and such blame actions are often very inferior and such projects will soon become scam soon after. I think they should take the time to analyze and work on the project more so that there are more achievements for the project than blaming others.

don't be easy to trust anyone because it can be that person is not good and will destroy you.
and if you believe you shouldn't blame others and blame yourself.
Prize hunters will expect the gifts they have done and that is a good thing maybe, everyone has hope for what they do.

It has always been that way and I don't know why.
Not just in crypto but you could see it in any MOBA games .
It is their fault why they are losing to their opponents yet they would blame other people for it.
I think they just want somebody to blame so they wouldn't look failure to other.

Sad to say but it is always happening. They often blame crypto bounty hunters. And developers came out as if they were the victims. Bounty hunters are just the fall guy on the issue. But I think no one should be blame. It really depends on the market and how the developers utilized it. At the end of the day we are all doing our jobs.

yes, most investors and DEVs blame bounty hunters for making prices fall when they first enter an exchanger,
in fact they are the ones who are guilty of not maintaining the price of their tokens.

I cannot agreed less with your opinion here. You re even very polite in choosing 70%, I have seen a lot of projects given investor and presale whooping 100% i.e you get double of your investment. Why they are blaming bounty hunters for the project failure is what I am yet to know, when most of them only allocate 1-2% to airdrop/bounty. Only very few you can see that will give 5% to promote their project. My advice to the upcoming is that, if your are giving away huge discount to early investors (50 - 70%), their must be a lock-up period to safeguard the integrity of your project. The lock-up period will now depend on the entirety of  contribution. Some can be 6 months, 1 year and 2 years respectively. To those who contributed largely, they might have access to some percentage at interval of every six months. This harassment on bounty hunters that brings the project to the limelight of global entities should stop.

Projects will surely lose most of it's value when it hits the exchange because there are not that much volume for the projects, and that 5% or 3% bounty tokens will smack the ico price to the ground, same goes for ico's that doesn't have bounty, because investors will dump their coins, the investors can't really keep that 70% profit because of the lack of volume and the spread of price, the investors will instead receive loss instead of profit, unless the project has a enormous volume at the start of listing.

People can be very deceptive and persuasive, especially in crypto.  There are a lot of charming individuals on youtube and social media that can easily hype a project up to new levels.  I don't like to blame the victim so I'd rather we go after these shillers and ponzi promoters.

Not all you can blame on the bounty hunter. you can imagine investors who buy large quantities of tokens and receive very large discounts. It could be done by investors to drop prices because they have already made a profit.

some cases are like that, investors can get bonus benefits up to more than 50% of what they have bought, and usually when a token or coin has entered the exchange and has a slightly profitable price, the investor will sell everything quickly even if only get little profit.

I think bounty hunters get tokens not for free, but for their labour, time, efforts, intelligence. They work day and night to promote a project and in return, they get a meager portions of the total allocations. And all rights and responsibilities fall upon themselves when it comes to what they are to do with their earned tokens. So there is no point in locking bounty tokens. And how a small percentage of bounty tokens affects the future of a project in such context?  

We have different opinion in this kind of matter well many investors are blaming bounty hunters for dumping the price of a coin that they invested but they can't admit to themselves that it was their failure to invest in a project that was a low quality, and the dumper also is the investor or the owner of the coin to get a profit for it and they put the blame on the bounty hunter.

It is always easy to blame people for your failure rather seeking for how to better things. Bounty hunter has always been blamed after the dip in token prices after listing and when even I see such post I always laughed and I start to imagine what happen to the investors what actually is their reason for investing if not for profit making and that can be achieved when you sell your coins and bounty hunter actually worked really hard to get their token so even if they sell immediately I don't blame.

It is obvious to see the dump reason on the projects after getting listed on the exchange. The biggest influencer is the teams that decide about the future of the project. Bounty hunters have no intention to dump the tokens.

Right. Bounty hunters had nothing to do with the dumping of their tokens because they are just promoting the project itself to attract more investors. The outcome of their tokens is greatly influenced by the team behind the project on how they managed it. So its really obvious that bounty hunters are not to be blamed if ever the tokens end up dumping.

You are absolutely right, I have noticed that each bounty hunter may receive less than 0.002% of what is given to these big investors, team members are owners.They would want to accuse the bounty hunters of the dump so the public eye will be off the developers effect. But the truth is that a lot of persons know this already. The developers at least would want to sell off some to pay some debts, staff, listing fees and cash out some profits etc.

You are absolutely right, I have noticed that each bounty hunter may receive less than 0.002% of what is given to these big investors, team members are owners.They would want to accuse the bounty hunters of the dump so the public eye will be off the developers effect. But the truth is that a lot of persons know this already. The developers at least would want to sell off some to pay some debts, staff, listing fees and cash out some profits etc.

I guess this could be true since the investor is the first person who bought the token at the very low price and once the token list on the exchange, they can sell it in a fast way and take the profit. It's not all of the bounty hunter mistakes because I think they sell the token because they need to make money from the token. Besides that, they are waiting for a long time before they can sell the token to get the money.

I saw a lot of projects that collected 10 m - 20 m $ from the ICO, and when their coins were below the ICO price they blamed the bounty hunters.
nowdays something like that is normal and it is also always the case that developers who fail to increase demand will always blame bounty hunters.
and I hope that in the future every campaign will user USDT to pay bounty hunter.

Yes I agree with you. Everytime we can not blame bounty hunters that they dump their coins. Yes the fact is distribution is just 2-5% of total token sale So it is not good if we blame only the bounty hunters and all hunters are not dumpers some are long-term holders too on the contrary investors who bought coins with huge bonuses will also dump the coins but I must say if a project has good potential then it can rise after listing too even in year 2017 we have seen many projects boom after listing. A project should be with working product and without product we can not expect a coin to survive in longterm in the current market scenario.

It's simply human nature. Always looking for whom to hinge a blame on particularly when it's about failure or missing opportunities. It's common in the crypto industry where one's actions often times lead to a lot of regrets. In essence, you control your actions and as such should man up and accept resulting consequences. I have seen people blame others for maybe, selling a token/coin too early only to find it appreciating the next moment. Also, people blame others for holding coins only to watch them crash heavily. We must all learn to accept our mistakes, only by doing this can we truly learn from them and shaping our futures accordingly.

The obvious answer is that many project fail because of lack of practical implementation. When these project listed they are under vishal scrutiny of many expert and when they dont meet the vital points big investoinvestor start dumping soon. The real solution is make the project as close to reality as possible. Dont give too much hype in start and focus on all possible result 

Now 90 percent of projects have no real use and I believe that all these projects will die. those projects that really think about applying very little

That is the hard truth mate. Projects' team are being deluded that their coins get dumped because of bounty hunters but that is not the case. There are some  coins which are already listed even before the bounty and they are already dumped.

Fingers will always be pointed even in the real world we keep blaming others for our misfortune not accepting responsibility for what happens to us. Projects dump because it lacks utility not the fault of bounty hunters.

People dumping the projects are also not to be blamed, whether it was dumped by an investors or bounty hunter, all investors cannot dump their token all at once on the company of they really have a very good working team that they believe in so much and most especially a working product, which is all that matters.

Most of these ICO projects tend to also toe the line of payment system, wherein we have a lot of them already competing in the market, you cannot all be have same product for the few investors that are currently in circulation, so most investors will only hold on to the project they strongly believe will still exist in future. If these projects really need a solution to the dumping of prices, they need a promising product with a new concept.

When the token prices crashes after listing it is easiest to blame the hunters for it rather then admit that the project has no working produce or a proper use case or that they entered the market without being ready for it etc.

It is a decentralized and a free market hence there is no point in blame anyone for one's failure since there no one holds authoritative power or control over the investment of an investor. This is why investors are frequently urged to learn and study about the coin or project with which they intend to invest in before proceeding.

all must understand the risks they will get regarding this investment. no need to blame but themselves must indeed learn every thing in the cryptocurrency because here is very high risk in terms of existing investments

I am agree that there is too many duplicate project in market. Perhaps its because developers team just want to take benefits from new investor or perhaps developers team want to build something better but not nothing has been proven.

i completely agree with you! these are always simple excuses when the dump comes or before. but the price always needs a certain time to solidify

You can't blame bounty hunters for dumping coins. It is their earnings from the task they have done. The coins the bounty hunters earned is their right to do to get their money. The coins the bounty hunters is holding is only a portion of the total coins. It is just very small to affect the price. So don't blame the bounty hunters there are other factors affecting the price and volume in the market.

As a Bounty hunters also I`m disappointed that I am not paid for the years in some projects and I never blame the other bounty hunters for these consequences. The bounty rewards are delayed by a team that they had  promises.

It's really happening especially if they don't want their project to dump or if they are just simply here to scam.
Projects that we think were legit at the start could turn into scam after the ICO is over, that's rampant so we should accept the reality
but still continue to participate in bounty hoping we will be able to work with a legit project that gives decent reward.

Thank you mate for really making them understand that we bounty hunters are not their problems here, I really wonder why they would just wake up and get the idea from, if they are at calculating or thinking straight, we shouldn’t be the one telling a whole full project team that promises to deliver quality project this.

The reason you stated here is one of the things I strongly believe that is setting back, before ICO, how many IPO projects have they seen failed? Highest an IPO project can even offer is 10% at stretch which STO has followed the line too, and that is why they will continue to be sustained, so they really need to stop using outrageous bonuses to entice investors.

Not all people blame others. I know many guys, who think it was their fault when they failed. I think both sides are wrong. If you are a realist, you can estimate all mistakes and try not to do them again.

Private investors are the most ridiculous dumpers I have ever seen yet they tend to blame bounty hunters for a dump in the price of a coin.

right, I agree with you, the bounty hunter can't always get the bounty results and then sell it, but it's also held, my security always holds bounty tokens, even the project can't develop without campaign members in my opinion

Private investors which also can be some part of the team who overbought the tokens and wait for the exchange listing then sell it out for sucking higher
rewards, bounty hunters is just a small part of the system, allocated funds is really small for them to create mass panic.

Indeed the devs were know the situations when bounty hunter sold their tokens it will more likely to dump and that's why tokens allocation for bounty hunter mostly only less than 10% from total supply but besides that there was plenty of reasons why the particular projects won't last long but unfortunately bounty hunter always be blamed here because mostly they will immediatelly sold their tokens assets after getting paid

Even one more horrible truth is these people I mean ico owners are holding token or coin in their alt account they start to dump these alt tokens once huge hype created. There is lots of types ico scams we witnessed in 2018

From my own experience I will say that hunters hold a token and believe in projects more than investors. Investors bought tokens and sell everything in a short time

Definitely agree this is the truth, for my opinion they are just using bounty hunter so that when the price drop down the investor would think that the bounty hunter are selling their coin so the blame is juts putting on the bounty hunter they didn't realize why the price is dumping ids because of them (investor) because like what you said they are offering 70% discount and when they put it on the market they are just pump it a little and many investors would sell their tokens, and one more thing sometimes the token of bounty hunter was lock and the price is drop down seriously is that because of bounty hunter.

Absolutely so, and this is the same thing that infuriates me.
Well, the initial investors merge price of the token to zero. This is not a problem of bounty hunters, this is a problem for the project itself, that it is such a useless and dumb

Most of the projects are deceivers, where the tokens immediately after listing on the exchanges are sold by the project developers themselves and that they are not accused of this, they are accused of selling at any price bounty hunters.

The era of deceiving people with the excuse of bounty hunters dumping their Tokens has long been a by gone. Some project do dump Tokens them selves. The unsold coins will be moved to exchange unknown to even the investors, I know of a project the ICO price was $0.75 to $1 the moment it gets to exchange the price fall to $0.04 that's where it is till now and the team did not show any concern till now Its so annoying.

Talking of bounty, blaming people for the downfall of the project in price is always an excuse just to keep things as they always say.
Talking about reality people can be blamed sometimes because they might be the reason for your loss, and that's for those who don't believe themselves and mostly you don't believe yourself once you know u are still a novice.

Yeah, they are to be blamed at least a little. They get 5% of the total token announced. Do you really think that 5% is small? As soon as the token gets listed in an exchange, the bounty hunters starts dumping the tokens they have earned. Thus, this will have an affect on the market at least on the short run. Seeing the price drop on the short run, other new investors starts to panic causing the price to dump further.

That's the whole point, investors are blaming bounty hunters for token dump instead of blaming pre-sale investors who got more token due to huge discount and bonus during the crowd funding stage. The number of tokens/coins allocated to the whole bounty is too small for it to fully affect the market price of the coin.

one thing we have to understand is.. this is a job that we must be prepared to produce nothing.  when an ICO project slides, we don't expect too much that the project will succeed, so when the project fails to reach the soft-cap or hard-cap we don't say that the project is scam or fraud.  "learn not to blame others for all our failures because from the beginning it is our own decision"

It has been the trend in crypto world. Most of the investors put the whole blame on bounty hunters for the dump of the tokens they bought. Although the tradition of a bounty hunter is to dump a coin but my thinking is that if a project is indeed solid such project will not dump so badly.

Ideally; someone has to take the blame for losses in investment
But otherwise; such traders should learn from the disadvantage and move on
Apply the lessons to next trade and be a better person

We bounty hunters are now used to the tag "dumpers" and as you rightly pointed out only  about 5% of the total token is allocated to bounty which means even if all bounty hunters had to dump their token at the same time, it shouldn't have any noticeable effect on the project, but you know what someone has to take the blame for the failure

Its no big deal. We lose we learn from our mistakes so that we can apply better method next time. Basically if a project has something solid to offer and can as well attract many investors, then I see no reason why there should be any dumping of its token if it's solid enough.

Everyone makes a mistake on the first weeks of trading but what matter is learning from these mistakes. Honestly, I never believe to the faith of the unsuccessful bounty hunters for a good reason. It is not rocket science. We all make mistakes.

Someone must always have the blame, it's not a new thing that all the blame goes to the bounty hunters, I think it has turned out to be our logo but it won't stop discos if I recieved a token and the price is too, I sell off and move on simple

Everything here is very true about the cause of dumping but I think crypto projects with no specific purpose or aim in the crypto ecosystem are destine to fail in some time to come. Even if such crypto projects distribute just some small amount of its tokens to either investors or Bounty hunters, without a specific purpose in the crypto space the token or coin will be worthless and dumped.

it's true that since the first accusation fell on the bounty hunter, in my opinion bounty hunters have no big influence on the market because if some bounty hunters throw away their coins then if the project is good then this won't happen in a long time.

Yes. It's always the bounty hunters that are always being blamed which i think is very wrong because we are the ones who make good advertisements for their project so that they can attract more investors. But still in the end we became valueless in their eyes.

I feel that the dump that happened is not entirely the fault of the bounty hunter, bounty hunters only get a small portion of the token allocation, those who can have tokens are not just bounty hunters because investors can also buy tokens during pre-sale, so investors also certainly have the possibility make a dump price

Yeah came across with a lot of this people bounty hunter sometimes deserve this blame cause they always dump the coin at dex exchange when no official listing. But if the coin still losing more value and dump keep coming when that 5% of bounty token then it was those investor who receive a lot of bonuses.

They must blame the project team who can't run it properly. How can 1% - 5% make a 100% failure? that's ridiculous, they blame the wrong target.
Or maybe they don't know how the system works or only the actions of their emotions.

It's the bear market and not the bounty hunter or the investors. Before 2018, projects can still stay above .5-2x of roi when it gets listed and take note, they offered huge bounty rewards at the same time with the huge bonuses for investors. It's just that we have lost many real investors and what's left are the people who do hit and run to ICO.

It's far too easy to play the blame game, but blaming people can never be helpful and healthy because it does nothing to them and nothing for you. No matter who is to be blamed for the way our life is, it is still our life, so we might as well take ownership of it. No matter where we are in life or what our status is, we can always improve, there's no expiration to improvement. Learn from mistakes, get up and get moving, take these as a motivation to grow and be more mature to face difficulties in life.

Thanks for clearing that out for everyone ,I used to be confused how 2% - 5% of total max supply of coins or tokens would drag down the price when dumped ,developers are the one to blamed for this not bounty hunters

The team of the projects are putting the blame unto the bounty hunters for the reason that their competence is very low and the projects that I know who did this is those shit projects. Great projects don't blame the bounty hunters instead they strive and do something to cope up with the market.

I agree. I think its part human nature and part how this market works. I say human nature because people tend to find something to blame upon in the face of losses and adversity. I say that because that's how it usually is and that's what commonly happens to somewhat make themselves, despite of the loss, feel good about themselves. It's a defense mechanism so they can still stand up and not blame everything on themselves, despite that being the truth. At least, that would give them the right amount of courage to start back up again. As for the second aspect, I think this market has always been a competitive one; therefore, when losses happen, some people tend to blame others for their misfortune even if, in reality, they brought it upon themselves. I guess the difference from those who succeed in this market and those who don't is the acceptance that, despite losing an investment, there are always ways to turn the bad into the good. If you see your mistake, which led to such loss, then you could have that future plan in order to work on such reason that caused the loss and would avoid it.

Indeed, if the developers team believe on their own project, they should believe investor or hunters will keep it for long term. Bounty hunters wont dump the token if the project are legit and have a good prospect.

don't mind projects who blame hunters for their failure, the truth is, this projects are scam, they use the hunters to cover their wrong deeds to the investors and lie to them making them believe that the price will rise again

Bases on what I heard before ICO team were the only bought by themselves  private sale that they implemented. And then after that once their campaign success and put in an exchange they will dumped quickly their token that they sold. And spreading a fraud news that we bounty hunters the reason why their project get loss in a sudden.

It really amazes me when I hear that hunters are being blamed for the dumping occurring, even if they were to be true, have they not already factored this in while they were constructing their whitepaper? Imagine a company that hires someone to work for him and he agreed to pay such worker at the end of the month, after paying the worker, and he tells the worker not to withdraw the money now till further notice.

This is the game they are trying to play with us, I have already worked for you, you paid me my salary in your token, I can decide to do whatever I wishes to do with the token, it’s my salary and I should not be blamed for withdrawing what I worked for.

I think that just as investors create a collapse in prices on exchanges after listing, since bounty hunters get few tokens. But without them, too, it is impossible because they create a lot of purchases and sales and the token has a demand on the exchange.

Crypto currency can’t please everybody
And it is the two side of a coin both good and the bad
So it’s good to blame but better to learn and move on

When you comes to such new and unstable market you have to understand that all the risk should be covered by yourself, nobody cares of you, no regulates. You shouldn't believe anybody, especially bloggers, who are mostly paid by the projects for marketing.

What are you even saying? Bounty hunters has the right to sell their coins, after all they never really needed it just to hold it, they worked and they got the tokens as a reward, so why would the blame be put on them fir making the decision to sell their coins. Being bounty hunter is not easy and they work very hard for it and it possibly can take them months.

The blame should be put on the investors who buy and dump the coin. Most of the investors just buy to get the price of a token pumped and then they will dump it and run off with huge profits. They are the ones that needs to be blamed, cause they are definitely the ones that cause the price to crash to being worthless.

I agree that investors and even developers are those who have huge impact on price. Bounty hunters get only a grains of total amount of tokens. It's not enough to dump the price significantly.

That's what I often think about. Why is a bounty hunter always wrong if a dump occurs. Until now I did not understand it often happened. Because each project only allocates 1-4% for the bounty program. With the small allocation, it is indeed not enough to change the market situation significantly.

In my opinion it's because of bounty hunters sell their tokens, even only 1-4% of the bounty program, if all of them sell their tokens, it will makes the price fall too. Investors will not sell their tokens under ICO price, so when bounty hunters sell their tokens, of course the price will fall. I'm not completely blame the bounty hunters though.

Lol it didn’t start today, they have always been putting the blame on the bounty hunters and that’s really stupid of them. First of all, bounty workers are not investors, they just work to promote the bounty and that’s it and the tokens they get for it is the payment they receive for the work they have done and it shouldn’t be anyone’s business whether they sell it or not, it’s their money and that’s what they worked for  so why would anyone be blaming them for what it is theirs? Lol. Any project that is meant to be a failure will always be a failure.

Blame the bounty hunters who in my opinion are not a good solution. Because I am also a bounty hunter and I also experienced a decline in prices. So that I also sometimes don't get results from prizes. And even I also got a fraud project. Price drops often occur and make me patient and continue to hold coins for the long term.

Well, It's not the thing to blame bounty hunters why the market price was dumped. Then if they sell it, they are deserving because they worked hard just to get that rewards token. And in fact, before receiving their token the coins in the market was already dumped its price value. Where it could be the whale investors and the developer who possible who did it not the bounty hunters.

Truth be told and you have said it all, I hate it most when people always blame bounty hunters for dumping where in actual fact, only few percentage of funds are always allocated for the whole bounty and why blame bounty hunters for your failure? Bounty hunters are hardworking people trying to earn something small for a living, why dump whiles you can hold and gain more value most times. I blame most team members for this reason.

exactly. People often blame anyone they want for losses without thinking carefully. how 1-5% of the total supply has a big impact on the remaining quantity. they blame the hunter for directing the attention of the people there, but may be the main cause of the development team.

This is simple, very few investors are humble enough to accept that they are going to make mistakes from time to time, so when they lose money instead of accepting it and trying to find a way to improve themselves they take the easy way out and try to blame others for their losses, you may think this is something that happens only to amateur investors but even some of the most famous investors do this and blame others for their losses, and when we take into account that bounty hunters are known for dumping their coins as soon as they can it is easy to see why they are blamed when a coin dumps.

in my opinion, blaming others is human nature. every day we very often blame others when something happens beyond what we expect, sometimes I also blame others for my failures or mistakes  :D. but I began to learn that blaming other people is useless because it cannot restore the situation especially when we invest in an ICO, we must be able to not blame others when failing or losing.

The point is there is no need to blame people when you fail, because if you can learn from each of these mistakes then you will realize something like that is a mistake that has been made due to lack of research and careful investment. Many projects offer big bonuses, but still it is merely a promotion and when you want to succeed in the future we must have skills in research so that we can invest in the exact projects.

blame yourself because if you don't have an effect on anyone it might be better.
blame someone else is useless so you don't have to blame anyone and don't be afraid to fail because failure can make you better in the future because you know more about what to do and what you don't need to do.
double your knowledge so can help run the project.

Bounty hunters are usually scapegoats in the scheme of price dumps but in truth the real dumpers are the investors who received bogus bonuses and the fact that there is little interest in the market for the token.

Most of these accusations are of course aimed directly at the participants after the distribution occurred at the beginning of the market, so 5% can have a dumping effect in a day if they release everything but in this case it is very unlikely to make sure the dump prices are pure from investors as more holders tokens or even from the dev or market that sells them.

I was participating in several projects which has crashed  after listing more than 90% comparing to ICO price
and the bounty hunters has still not get their rewards.

I think that makes perfect sense, I am not disagreeing with the bonus because I know the bonus is important to attract investors, but what I want to agree here is the fact that bounty hunters don't have a big share in dump phenomena, we only get a few tokens therefore we only play small roles in dumps that occur, very little, not what people predict

And you are being blamed for that crashed. You shouldn't be blamed for that because with the explanation of most, the portion that bounty campaign is getting from overall supply isn't that much.

All right, you said, most of the projects are trying their incompetence, to blame the bounty hunters ... maybe it's easier for them, but this is a fact, we are blamed for all the troubles and failures of the projects, thereby diverting attention from their ill-conceived actions.

It is true, they repeat their mistakes from time to time. Buying at highs when they should not, and don't buying at lows when they should do it; selling at lows when they should holding, whilst don't selling at highs when they should selling (due to over expect that their coins will move much higher). Then, when they miss chances to take profits at spikes, and get losses by buying at highs, they blame on developers, on whales. Such guys will repeat their mistakes again when they get other funds to invest in crypto.

I think making money in crypto is not something for people who do not bother doing some research about what should be done in dip, which coin to invest or when to withdraw. This is Very important and many guides and websites could guide you in making a good decision. It is useless blaming people for the mistakes you make in life and in your financial deals.

Smart people learn not only from others' mistakes, but also from their own.  You should always weigh all your actions and attempts to do something.  Thus, we must prepare ourselves for different situations and for different developments.  I think that the cryptocurrency market is perfectly suitable for this purpose, since the market has never been stable and never gave 100% guarantees of success, especially if a person does not have sufficient experience or has a feeling of increased greed.

you are absolutely right and I feel sorry for the fragile people they lie to. They list token below ico price, scamming it's investors and pushing blames on the hunters who hold just little percent. Never trust any project who started trading below ico price

yes, right, I think people can reduce prices for investors because they have a lot of money, and bounty hunters can't possibly reduce prices because they only have a little money to get from the prize

very true, seeing the same thing on many recently active camps too. many people focus on the events and promotions that they forget to make value for their coins. all they want to make is demand for the coin but instead, they make losses for their coin and finally let everyone trap in it. it's your own fault and it is not wise to blame others for your poor decisions and misfortune. better try next time.

Most people are looking for the wrong forgetting about themselves that when investing we answer money only we and not someone , and before you invest think 5 times to do it or not

Why would dumping be blamed on bounty Hunter alone. The point is that everybody including big time investors in such a volatile environment will always take advantage of opportunities whenever they occur including selling off all their investments

That is how life is, we normally attribute our failure to someone forgetting that life is an independent journey and whatever happens is as a result of our own practices. The investor is blaming the bounty hunter, the hunter is blaming the team, the team has issues with both actors.

so far the exchange market failure is purely from the project team that cannot run the project according to the roadmap so that the project does not mean anything in real life because if the project runs in real life as a roadmap and is developed continuously to be better accepted by the public the token will be stable and up.
REMEMBER....
the bounty hunter only gets a few of the number of tokens and that has very little effect ......

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They just hunt for free and easy money. At the same time, they don't pay their time to learn for knowledge, to pratice and sharpen their skills in crypto, then even with free money from bounties, they will lose them all easily by invest into bad projects or in worst cases, scam projects. Then, they blame on others (bad teams, scam teams, friends who invited them to invest, and so on). Personally, they should (have to) be responsible for their lack of knowledge and skills, as well as their decisions to pay money for investments into bad projects. Moreover, blame on others won't help them to get lost money back, and prevent them to open their minds and learn more. They get stucked themselves in their own traps if they blame on others.

Indeed, some people get profits and some dont. Its usual in any market and when they got loss on their portfolio, they blame market or others. Every investment could lead us to loss and i think we should take the risk if we want gain profits from our investment

Everything in the world strives to preserve its own integrity, any person will always justify himself for any offense, and blame everyone around for frequent reasons only in order not to harm himself in the low level of his personal development.

We are not here for the blame game, we took the risk, hope to succeed but crypto is just not for everyone, there are people who meant to failed while others are meant to succeed. You only call yourself a failure in crypto if you stop dreaming, failure at the beginning is normal, what matters is we never give up until we reach our goal here, we can do that if we keep improving and learn from our mistakes.

I still believe that a greater part of the dump is ff the developers and private investors alike, all those that bounty at a very huge discount can sell even with a 10% profit. No bounty hunter especially at this current market season will want to dump all his efforts for pennies.

I believe that bounty hunters partly to blame in this problem. When the project is listed on the stock exchange, they must be confident in the strength of their cryptocurrency. The project should provide financial support to its coin. Without such support, the coin will quickly collapse.

In most cases, each project and team receives funding from investors, but the coin is allowed for self-service.  Because of this, ethereum has lost a lot of percent of its price, because the developers of Eco by the company you woke up the cryptocurrency from the market and cashed out the funds that I get from investors.  It seems that everyone is worried about the amount of money, and not about the prospects of their coins.

I dislike such type of mindset. Yes bounties given to bounty hunter do get sold of almost immediately but looking at th percentage of bounty tokens compared to the total supply, one would wonder what's the fuss is all about. In contrast, most of the dumping is done by the team members and developers themselv s. Numerous instance of this happening with team dumping on investors and turning to exist scam

It's not true. Bounty hunters usually receive their tokens a few months after listing, when the price is already very low due to the sale of tokens by investors. As a rule, the token is sold after listing, then it falls strongly in price and after a very long time slowly grows.

Project that don't have any usage will be dumped right after the exchange listing, it's not the bounties participants fault on why the value will be dumped
but because there's no real intentions coming from the team to really work with the project but just to scam investors money, it's hard to find good project but if you are willing to find the right one, chances still there to find one.

Whenever it comes to market price of a coin both investors and hunters will always take different stance. Although it of no doubt that  some hunters just cheat the system to accumulate much tokens to just dump the price since they get nothing to lose but some investors too do same.

I like your title which says "Why blame people for your failure?" because it really proves that we are getting mature in different aspects of Crypto especially bounties. I hope that they will come a time that bounties will really come back on its momentum which really gives everyone a chance to generate good income for everyone.

In my opinion, the vast majority of ICOs that suffer large falls as soon as they are listed in exchanges tend to blame the bounty hunters as a smokescreen to carry out their dishonest acts, dump their coins and leave with their pockets full of money.

Otherwise it seems irrational to believe that the understandable tendency of many bounty hunters to sell their tokens as soon as possible is what drives the price of these tokens to the floor, causing them to lose in many cases up to 95% of their ICO price.

It is common in the nature of humans to blame people for their own mistakes. Giving ridiculous bonuses during the pre-sale and crowdsale period is very suidcal for any project as it will make the investors dump the coins or tokens at the first chance they get on the exchange since they are already at profit.

Most of the tokens that list these days actually dump and apart from the fact that bounty hunters are involved.
Yes, there are bounty hunters that dump and most times, I noticed that they do this because the token itself is not coming from a good project.

What makes the ICO companies thinks bounty hunters are the cause of the dump ?
They should not provide bounty rewards too big, just 1-2% of total supply is enough for the reward.
So i think other the hunters are not always the cause for the falling price of the token.

They are just one of the factors but not the biggest/major one. It still depends on the projects and team itself if it will be successful upon entering the market. If it gets dumped by you are saying bounty hunters and it wasn't able to get back or even surpass its initial marketcal then it's probably not a good altcoin/token in cryptocurrency that people should hold nor be traded.

right. There are many projects where the members of the group sold the token tokens down at that time, the investors blamed bounty hunters for dumping. But I think the 5% bonus is negligible compared to the remaining 95%.

Some project even give lower than than, some only give 1% of the total supply in bounties but price still dump.
I cannot agree that bounty hunters should be blame, it's the lack of liquidity is the main reason, and the team is in charge of listing, so they should be the one to be blame.

They don't have right to blame even bounty hunter for your loss. From the start you are the one  who are deciding on what strategies you are doing and what path do you walk. So instead of blaming other people the best thing to do is to think great strategies to earn more and to win back your loss.

blame yourself because you are not confident so you follow others.
strengthen your heart and mind so you are sure of your choice.

blaming other people won't produce useful results, so it's useless.
research and find out for yourself so you understand what you choose.

Many projects see bounty hunters as some poor people who cannot survive without their small tokens so they just treat hunters anyhow. If they feel hunters are a treat to the coin value, then why not paying them in other coins like USD or ETH or even BTC.

I believe EVERYONE on the cryptospace knows that dumps is not JUST hunters,  investors and team members also share in the whole thing. I believe the next line of action is to see or look for the way forward. I'd say dumps are actually inevitable, its a way to profit for wise people especially from projects with great potential.

Indeed, we should blame price down because bounty hunters. I think many bounty hunters want to keep their token for long term but because market panic and price keep falling, they should sell their token. There is many factors why people selling their token and if the project are good, i think investor will keep it for long term

Agreed on your view. Any project try its best to allure as many as investors in a bid to make the project a success. They try different ways like providing a whopping amount of bonus to investors beforehand just to taken them on-board the project, but albeit for a short period of time. Once they get the bonus, they are sure to shift their investment elsewhere by selling off the coin they have bought for bonus.

This is a good chance to express also the voice of bounty hunters. It's kinda annoying also that most of project owners will accuse the bounty hunters of dumping that affects the price of their token, they are just using the bounty hunters as scapegoat for their failures.

Frankly speaking if the project is very promising, even bounty hunters will hold their shares and sell it once the price will be good enough. But once the project is good for nothing then the few investors and bounty hunters will surely dump all their shares to at least gain a little profit.

Indeed the bounty hunter is always wrong, I don't understand people think how to be blamed is a bounty hunter when the price of a coin decreases. If there is a decline, of course many people sell, Basically, many people hold the coin and there is a decline. So we cannot blame one party alone.

In that case we can say, they are just looking up for their own self and to consider their own benefits, in that case I can say, they are just using up the reason that, bounty hunters are the those to be blamed when the project falls. In that case it is clear that their project is not worthy at all because in the first place, they just let their own token dumped.

What do you expect dude? Of course these investors will be looking after themselves and their profit. That's what investors do and that's how they make money. And most investors know that a lot of these tokens would only be good during their initial runs so why would you risk holding them for a long time? For me it's a logical move to mke the most out of these tokens while they still have value.

I think it is both parties that are guilty of this allegations, bounty hunters are guilty of dumping because they usually don't believe in the project, so they sell off their tokens to invest in other altcoins or spend it. But you should not attribute all the blame to bounty hunters alone because the team also have their share of the blame, because when you give 70% bonus to any investor, he can decide to sell off all his investment and be happy with the profit from the bonus.
I participated in bounty for a project that gave more than 100% bonus to its investors and they decided to lock bounty tokens for 3 months. The tokens was already trading at X0.04 in the first month. So is that the fault of bounty hunters or the team.

Dumping is not bounty hunters fault in anyway, investors dump coins ones it is more than ICO price,and when the market is in a bear state. And when a project can't be managed properly by developers all blame goes to bounty hunters for dumping,the truth is you can't determine what individuals should do with their investment.

of course the team has the main role behind all that, the allocation of tokens given to bounty hunters cannot affect the existing market price movements, because when compared with investors, the amount of bonuses given is certainly much greater. the team's performance on the project has a major role so the tokens that are launched can succeed when entering the market

This is bad behavior and you need to stay away from people who blame you for their failures. He should think his own head and figure out all the options in life.

It is their own right for their own money. Although it will really affect us when the bounty hunters dump their tokens or coins. I guess we really need to understand how the system really works so that we can relate to every person who are in it.

There is an easy way to do that. Pay Bounty reward with ETH, but the majority does not want to lose their money and they blame hunters. Hunters are not guilty, the killer of projects is the team itself.

Yes, it is better to not connected to them so we can make sure that they will not blame us if somehow they are making a mistake.
I already see many people blame the other, but they don't check with themselves to find out how they can make a mistake.
It is easy to blame other people, but it will be difficult to blame ourselves and we don't want to get the blame because of our mistake ;D

Mistakes in life are bound to be made.
Investing in cryptocurrency has its own risks, but you can minimize it by doing your research by yourself ad not following an investment advise from another party.
Most especially from those you should not trust.

This is a good way to compensate the bounty hunter, if they dump, it will not affect the market.
However, they have to ensure they start the project having their own budget for marketing, and usually in crypto if you want exposure,
you need to pay the bounty hunters with a decent amount because if not, they will not work for you.

if there is no decent payment, of course, there may not be interested people to join the project. Bounty hunters are very simple, because they only need to pay them with their tokens at the end of the campaign with services from the manager campaign. developers will not spend a lot of money on their project promotions. because advertising on several crypto sites is clear, it will require a lot of money.

This particular has been argued on many trends and on several occasions, but so far, nothing has changed. the truth is you can't be blaming bounty hunters everytime we ran into loss. It's a bad habit.

Yes even not only the investors most of the team failed to show investors last mg term profitability even they failed to convince the investors . So only investors are dumping the bonuses initially to cut their loss .

Exactly what i think. Most ICO thinks their investors won't dump their token and causing the price falling.
In fact, unsatisfied investor will sell their token and move to another investment if they find a better project.
There are too many ICO's failed in the past, because they cannot protect their token value by keep delivering their roadmap.

Many coins that do not have a bounty project also have a very sharp decline. The price of the coin declined is not the wrong bounty hunter. If compared with investors, of course, the acquisition of larger coin investors. Bounty hunters only receive a small share of coins. So there is no need to blame someone for failing a project.

In general, the overall state of the cryptocurrency market is not in the best position.  Today, even when the highest-rated coins rise in price, the rest of the cryptocurrency is at the bottom, just like six months ago.  Moreover, the Bounty Hunters also want to get a good profit for their work and therefore it makes no sense to sell at a cheap price, If this project really has good prospects in the future.

As a professional and wise crypto currency player, we should not blame others for the failure we receive. We must be able to correct our own mistakes before we blame others. Every failure is the result of the decisions and steps we take so we must acknowledge that failure as part of our process. We must correct ourselves. We should be able to learn from the failures we receive. We can make that failure the beginning of our more perfect success. Failure can make us more experienced so that in the future we can take good steps in every action. We are also smarter and more careful in compiling every strategy that exists.

Yeah you just cannot do that when it comes to crypto and you are never benefited by doing that. I believe that being a crypto enthusiast; you can easily make some goof money by participating in the right project without having to blindly follow someone. This should be understood that if you loose money in crypto, you would not get it back so spend wisely.

Its because many bounty projects aren't good enough that's why 2-5% of there allocation drags price down when dump happens ,I believe that if the project is very good one it won't have effect on the price at all,many devs are doing mistakes by listing on crappy exchanges that's the reason behind the lose in time value

Regarding the reward with bounty, I see very few bounties do that. But after all, I find that the death of projects is by itself not having the potential to grow, it is inherently born only to make money from profitable investors

I never blamed anyone for my failures, because if I did something wrong with the cryptocurrency, it was my own fault, even with the advice of someone else.

They blame bounty hunters because its an escape, lame people blame people its as simple as that, the fact is all this so called developers this days aren't really a pro and not been a pro means not capable to hand anything

Those who blame others for their own failure will never learn ,just look at harmony project ,they don't have time to worry about if their token will dump in value ,they know what's best for their project that's why they use the best exchange for their IEO ,some teams are jokes

This is an established truth, usually what is allocated to bounty is mostly 1% of the token supply and moreover the tokens are not released immediately to bounty hunters. Some release their weeks or even months after listing on an exchange by that time the investors had finished dumping but they will still blame it on bounty hunters.

I mostly get annoyed by the idea of most bounty managers and project managers always blaming for bounty hunters for dumping of tokens. How much do these managers allocate for bounty campaigns and go around and still blame hunters for dumping. Until project managers start paying hunters with eth, btc, xrp.. etc, they will still blame bounty hunters for their failure which is false.

I got your opinion mate. Not exactly bounty hunters will be blame cause of their pitty amounts of rewards than of investors but the owners of this project. Bounty hunters will usually dump their rewards but it is not big enough to make the price fall cause in only small amounts. Will that project owners will do something to help uphold its drowning price rather than to blame their promoters.

i agree we can say that most of the token price crash is not only because of the bounty hunters but because of high bonus for the early investor. they cant blame the investor for that because they do it upon themeselve but they should not blame it the hunter also because hunter work for it. they should blame it to thereself because they release token they cant afford to support meaning the one we should blame is the team due to lack of demand.

There are many projects that are offering very attractive bonuses during seed round and private sales. It could be even 3-4 times less that on public sale. Just image how much room to dump early investors have.

Well, I agree to this. Most projects offers a huge bonuses just to promote the project without thinking it's effect to the price of the token after. We should not blame the bounty hunters as well as the investors for this matter, they just want to secure their investments whether it is in a form of money or time. The project team should think of another way to give the investors benefits that will not affect the price of the token after it was launched.

I never blame someone for my fault. It is your choice and you have to take it by yourself and you are the only responsible person
Learn to answer for your decisions and you will never blame other people for suggestions. Always DYOR!

Agree with your opinion, I think when we fail, stop blaming and find the reason why we failed, I think we will find a way to resolve this and avoid it to the next time. Please take responsibility for your self at all things and do not blame at all circumstances.

Blaming other person isn't a good idea nor to think others as a reason of our failure cause in the first place, we are the one making such decision and no other individuals is forcing you of what you have to do.
Better we have to accept our failures and stop blaming others, and to put in our mind that failure is a part of crypto investment and we can't step it away.

I think we have to be wise crypto currency players. We must introspect ourselves and not look for scapegoats for what happened to us. We should not blame the other party. We must look for problems and be self-centered first. I think that the failure that we experience comes from the strategy and risk management that we implement iki is not appropriate. I think that we must change the strategy by learning from the experiences we experience so that we can benefit in the future according to our expectations.

Maybe there's people blamed someone because they really contributed to the failures of somebody. We can't control that feelings, and if there is no directly involved person I don't think blaming would be the outcome. First of all if you failed it's usually because of your decisions, and if your listen to other people just by seeking ideas don't you blame them.

It is not the only reason why people blame ICO project. Let us say they listed the token and went dumped, the problem is why the token dumped? They don't have development and product at all. You said is favorable with developers who did not care about their investors. What happens to the investors who bought the token thrice the price they listed in exchange? Probably, they lost a lot.

In order to have a good feedback under ICO,, they should also protect their investors from loss.

It isnt the bounty hunters' fault, the developers of the project are usually to blame for such an outcome. I commend you for noticing that every project posted here in this forum does not give out a token allocation percentage that exceeds 5%, that's just a small portion of the total token sold which are distributed to the bounty hunters. The remaining 95% goes to the project which are governed by the developers. Dumping is often associated with those who are in control of the project. There are instances where they raise the value of the token sold, garnering consumers who thought that the coin would eventually increase overtime, and then dumping the price at the last minute, which leaves investors with nothing at all.

Yeah of course the developer has calculated that well, the allocation of funds for bounty so that the allocation does not have a big influence on their market, so when prices fall don't blame the bounty hunter, they are only 1%. of course there are influences and other things that affect the price of their project

And for note, usually some bounty hunters will sell their coins in ICO price or higher, like me usually hold my coins or tokens from bounty reward to sell it into high price. I think it is worth to hold since i am not buy anything so  i am not really face with low price and can hold longer as i want.

This is crypto and each investor or trader is responsible for what strategy chosen for a particular activity. Crypto is broad and not all coins or projects will be successful at the end of the day, hence an investor is always required to perform a personal study on these projects before deciding to join its investment.
With the issue of bounty hunters being responsible for the dumping of a coin, it is now clear that that is a misconception. How can bounty hunters with an allocation of 1 to 2% of the entire tokens generated be responsible for a dump of the 98% remaining. The dumping of a coin comes from the poor strategies picked by the team and the investors as well.

Most of the people are blaming the bounty hunters when the price is going down after listing on exchange but the allocation of the bounty hunters are only small amount compare to the big investors they investing during pre sale they can get huge of bonuses.

Honestly its very unfair to blame the bounty hunters for dump in the price of a coin actually you made a valid cause of the whole saga which had for long been often attributed to massive dumping of the particular coin to hunters whose total allocation is small compared to the bonuses offered whereas the outrageous bonuses dole out to investors who are only after the profits not minding the future and road map of that coin is the major cause of the failure and dumping of that particular coin.

I completely agree with you, it’s just that investors and project teams always thinkins that bounty hunters dumping every token price, but this isn’t true, because investors and project teams also selling their tokens and dumping price, but unfortunately you can’t explain it to them, because they consider themselves to be above the bounty hunters.

Yes you are right on this front. Bounty hunters are often blamed for dumping price of a coin upon hitting exchanges. But this is not entirely true. Bounty hunters maybe a part of it. Only up to 5 percent tokens are allocated under bounty campaigns. So how this is possible? Giving up to 80 percent bonus during token sales will affect much.

Yes I agree. The failure of a certain project are actually depends on the developers and the product itself. Its true that in some way bounty hunters affects also the success or failure of a particular project, but if you think about it, the bounty allocation is very small relative to the total number of tokens, so it means even if you dump the bounty allocation, the effects are still negligible.

Bounty is part of every project, so the project team must have always solution when bounty hunters dump their rewards because it is always expected for bounty hunters to dump their rewards right away. It`s not the bounty hunter`s fault but it is always the project team`s fault.

They don't sell all the remaining 95% they sell as many as they can. I think that perhaps the bounty hunters can make the investors sell out of fear, or vice versa. But blaming the bounty hunters every time is just an excuse and too easy.


They like to blame bounty hunters, right?  :-\ Too easy to blame something else.


Normally with a good project, the bounty hunters will shoot themselves in the foot if they sell too early.


I didn't even think of that. You right. When they sell their bonus it is a first come first served basis and then the rest sell to "cover their loss".

I think most bounty hunters are not that much stupid people who dumped coins and get small rewards. Everything is on team members hands. If bounty hunters feel about more confidence about some project and team they will be with that project without dumping the coins. If project seams to success dumping is not a problem. 

It seems you dont know it is one of the tactics project use this day to cover their failure. I have seen project that allocated less down $10000 for bounty hunters still complaining that hunters are responsible for the dumping. I keep on reminding many of them that they are the one responsible for their failure. How will you offer up to 50% discount on the purchase of your token to investors and you will eventually blame the hunters for your token dump. I have made a lot of reviews to show people that many investors should watch out closely before putting their money on any project. If you know huge bounty allocation will make your project get dumped, Why not allocate less to bounty campaign and let people that want to join be part of the campaign.