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Title: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 24, 2019, 11:57:14 AM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: mu_enrico on May 24, 2019, 02:45:22 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 24, 2019, 04:30:30 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)
big names like Ronaldo & Messi, in my opinion this year are not worthy of being a Ballon D'or winner because they both failed to bring their team to win UCL, you recommend Mbappe that makes perfect sense because they won the World Cup but if Liverpool won the UCL this year I think " M.Salah "has the chance to get it.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: cooltoadfrommoon on May 24, 2019, 04:50:48 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

If Salah wons UCL, Mbappe will be out of the list.Since Copa America is ahead so A big factor will be copa America.IMO If messi can win Copa this year probably he will take the Ballon D'or.   


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 24, 2019, 08:26:04 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

If Salah wons UCL, Mbappe will be out of the list.Since Copa America is ahead so A big factor will be copa America.IMO If messi can win Copa this year probably he will take the Ballon D'or.   
Yup, Messi also still has the opportunity to get the Ballon D'Or because so far only he has a lot of Goals among all the candidates who are on the condition that he must win the Cup for his country.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rachman mahesa on May 24, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
A strong candidate for the Ballon D'or that is widely reported is Mbappe, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gerard Pique. The candidate is certainly just a prediction of many people. If we look at the extraordinary this season, of course Mbappe & Lionel Messi. It seems like the Champions League is not very influential on the Ballon D'or. So that's what I think is a strong candidate for this trophy.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: logfiles on May 24, 2019, 09:06:11 PM
Gerard Pique.
Are you Serious? Gerard Pique?
Without being baised, I would Pick Van Dijk or the wonder kid of Ajax De Ligt over Pique any day. Is there anything Extraordinary Pique did this season?

Definitely champions league and Nations competitions carry a lot of weight when it comes to picking the winners so before we know the winners of the CL trophy. Here are my picks for the top candidates.
- Mbappe ( World cup winner)
- Salah (Still has to play African cup of nations to play)
- Mane (Still has to play African cup of nations to play)
- Messi (still has COPA America to play)

Final results of all that and the outcomes of UCL winner could change the tide.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: tomahawk9 on May 24, 2019, 09:31:21 PM
Messi is my #1 candidate. Won the league title and was the top goalscorer of La Liga and Champions League, he also has the chance of winning the league cup tomorrow, and is close to winning the European Golden Boot...The guy literally carried Barcelona on his back this season with outstanding performances. Plus, he'll also play in the Copa America, if he wins this trophy, he'll 100% win the Ballon d'Or.

There's also van Dijk. Key player in Liverpool, with a lot great performances throughout the season. If he wins the CL and also the UEFA Nanations League, then it's very likely that he'll be a strong candidate.

Last but not least, there's Mané, pretty good 2nd half of the season with some poor performances here and there. Also Salah, but same as Mané, decent first half of the season, 2nd half was better, both finished as top goalscorer of the EPL...If both win the CL, one of them will probably enter the top 3 nominees but will probably not win it if van Dijk and Messi are also among the top 3.

Btw, some of you are saying Mbappe? is this for real or are you guys just joking? I can't tell ???


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 24, 2019, 10:24:56 PM
Gerard Pique.
Are you Serious? Gerard Pique?
Without being baised, I would Pick Van Dijk or the wonder kid of Ajax De Ligt over Pique any day. Is there anything Extraordinary Pique did this season?

Definitely champions league and Nations competitions carry a lot of weight when it comes to picking the winners so before we know the winners of the CL trophy. Here are my picks for the top candidates.
- Mbappe ( World cup winner)
- Salah (Still has to play African cup of nations to play)
- Mane (Still has to play African cup of nations to play)
- Messi (still has COPA America to play)

Final results of all that and the outcomes of UCL winner could change the tide.
I also think Pique is not worthy of being a candidate who won the Ballon D'or, if the chosen one from the defender I think Van Dijk is more feasible because this season he appeared impressive and brought Liverpool to be a UCL Finalist and also runner up in the Premier League. We will see who are the strong candidates who will win the Ballon D'or after UCL ends.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Harkorede on May 24, 2019, 10:25:52 PM
Just for the heads up, The last summer world cup will definitely not be taken into consideration, neither should it have any impact whatsoever in deciding which player should get this year's Ballon D'Or, The world cup was only influential in last year's edition which Luka Modric had won earlier this year.

Messi for me is still the standout candidate eligible for the prize and Barcelona's slump in the champions league shouldn't not deprive him of that, Mbappe also had a great season too but that was only in the ligue 1, Sadio Mane is another I consider very brilliant this season, he was decisive for Liverpool all through the season.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 24, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
Messi is my #1 candidate. Won the league title and was the top goalscorer of La Liga and Champions League, he also has the chance of winning the league cup tomorrow, and is close to winning the European Golden Boot...The guy literally carried Barcelona on his back this season with outstanding performances. Plus, he'll also play in the Copa America, if he wins this trophy, he'll 100% win the Ballon d'Or.

There's also van Dijk. Key player in Liverpool, with a lot great performances throughout the season. If he wins the CL and also the UEFA Nanations League, then it's very likely that he'll be a strong candidate.

Last but not least, there's Mané, pretty good 2nd half of the season with some poor performances here and there. Also Salah, but same as Mané, decent first half of the season, 2nd half was better, both finished as top goalscorer of the EPL...If both win the CL, one of them will probably enter the top 3 nominees but will probably not win it if van Dijk and Messi are also among the top 3.

Btw, some of you are saying Mbappe? is this for real or are you guys just joking? I can't tell ???
who will be able to make messi get the Ballon D'or I think only if he gets the Copa America Cup, if only the number of goals I think the criteria is not enough. The dominance of C. Ronaldo & Messi must end in the race for the Ballon D'or, I think this year it's time for new players to get that individual award like Ballon D'Or.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: BitBustah on May 24, 2019, 10:41:23 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

The award should go to the best player, it doesn't matter how well their team performs.  This is a team sport, You can be the best player in the world but there is only so much you can do when there are 10 other people on the field with you.  I would still give it to Ronaldo.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Tipstar on May 25, 2019, 12:35:20 AM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?

Though Champions league is not the only way a ballon D'or is decided, but there's just one player that have shined more than anyone else.
It's Salah, he has been very successful this year too. Though Sadio Mane from the same team is also being considered, but Salah is not just scoring but everything.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rosezionjohn on May 25, 2019, 03:05:25 AM
Salah would top the list I think. He's excelled at both domestic and local competitions. The guy has always been in the conversation been in the conversation in the past years, I think he deserves to have it this time around.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Juggy777 on May 25, 2019, 06:42:51 AM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

I’ll agree Ronaldo doesn’t deserve to win this year, he’s been an ordinary player since he’s joined Juventus, you’re being harsh on Messi he’s scored 50 goals this year he deserves to win this trophy. Modric and Hazard both have underperformed this season hence they won’t be winning it, Van Dijk is a wild card entry but I doubt he’ll win it. Mbappe and Salah both had outstanding seasons, but Salah is my second pick as he has led Liverpool into the finals of champions league for the second time in a year.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: traderethereum on May 25, 2019, 07:29:31 AM
I don't have any vision about who will get the Ballon d'Or trophy because I don't watch every game or follow the news about them or each of them.
Maybe Lionel Messi could be the winner as many people have bets for him.
But whoever the winner, he deserves to be the winner because he gives the best thing in the match.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: leea-1334 on May 25, 2019, 10:04:48 AM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

I like Mbappe a lot too but after winning the Ligue 1 title, PSG have been terrible, losing so many games. Yes, they did not need to win but champions do not play like that. And it sort of proved that Mbappe was not as good as he is without the others playing all around him.

He did well in the world cup but that was long ago now. I do not think he deserves it. Very difficult to say even Salah I like,,, but he also did not really do well in anything unless he wins next week.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 25, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?

Though Champions league is not the only way a ballon D'or is decided, but there's just one player that have shined more than anyone else.
It's Salah, he has been very successful this year too. Though Sadio Mane from the same team is also being considered, but Salah is not just scoring but everything.
yes you're right, because this is an individual award. 1 season's appearance is not only about bringing the team to the domestic league trophy or UCL but in my opinion the player who is able to bring his team to the Champions League trophy will have a better chance of getting the Ballon D'Or.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 25, 2019, 09:41:16 PM
I don't have any vision about who will get the Ballon d'Or trophy because I don't watch every game or follow the news about them or each of them.
Maybe Lionel Messi could be the winner as many people have bets for him.
But whoever the winner, he deserves to be the winner because he gives the best thing in the match.
As a football fan I always follow football news about anything related. Ballon D'Or is an individual trophy that is highly awaited by every soccer fan or player who becomes a candidate. The assessment of the worth of winning the title was not only he played well in the game but many aspects to determine it.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: BitBustah on May 25, 2019, 09:42:44 PM
I don't have any vision about who will get the Ballon d'Or trophy because I don't watch every game or follow the news about them or each of them.
Maybe Lionel Messi could be the winner as many people have bets for him.
But whoever the winner, he deserves to be the winner because he gives the best thing in the match.

I think voter fatigue is starting to become an issue, they don't want Ronaldo and Messi to win it every year because it gets boring.  That is what happened to Michael Jordan, voters gave it to him too many times and ended up awarding MVP to Karl Malone one year.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rodel caling on May 25, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
A strong candidate for the Ballon D'or that is widely reported is Mbappe, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gerard Pique. The candidate is certainly just a prediction of many people. If we look at the extraordinary this season, of course Mbappe & Lionel Messi. It seems like the Champions League is not very influential on the Ballon D'or. So that's what I think is a strong candidate for this trophy.



Yeah nice thought and opinion mate but I strongly put my bet choosen lionel Messi, the other player has also a big potential to get the D' or tophy.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Shova on May 26, 2019, 06:09:17 AM
I don't have any vision about who will get the Ballon d'Or trophy because I don't watch every game or follow the news about them or each of them.
Maybe Lionel Messi could be the winner as many people have bets for him.
But whoever the winner, he deserves to be the winner because he gives the best thing in the match.

I think voter fatigue is starting to become an issue, they don't want Ronaldo and Messi to win it every year because it gets boring.  That is what happened to Michael Jordan, voters gave it to him too many times and ended up awarding MVP to Karl Malone one year.

Messi and Ronaldo both had a less successful season this year. There were much more influencive players that took much larger media and public attention. Messi and Ronaldo were not able to make their team win any major trophy except the leagues.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 26, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
I don't have any vision about who will get the Ballon d'Or trophy because I don't watch every game or follow the news about them or each of them.
Maybe Lionel Messi could be the winner as many people have bets for him.
But whoever the winner, he deserves to be the winner because he gives the best thing in the match.

I think voter fatigue is starting to become an issue, they don't want Ronaldo and Messi to win it every year because it gets boring.  That is what happened to Michael Jordan, voters gave it to him too many times and ended up awarding MVP to Karl Malone one year.

Messi and Ronaldo both had a less successful season this year. There were much more influencive players that took much larger media and public attention. Messi and Ronaldo were not able to make their team win any major trophy except the leagues.
Messi & Ronaldo played very well this season but in my opinion this year they will not get the Ballon D'Or trophy, maybe it's time to end their era in the race for the title of the best player.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rijaljun on May 26, 2019, 01:18:36 PM
Messi and Ronaldo are absolutely still everyone's favourite, even both were not playing so well in my opinion, but they deserve to be candidates. For this year, I personally wish Salah will win the Ballon d'Or. He played better than most top players in this whole season.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: gabbie2010 on May 26, 2019, 02:23:59 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)
My take is on van Dijk, potential UCL winner if Liverpool eventually wins UCL this guy had been solid all through the season despite being a defender he also launches attacks and a threat to their opponent.
Recalled Canavarro of Italy also won a ballon D'or despite being a defender both messi and ronaldo had not been impressive this season thus both do not merit it. Sarah was impressive last season but this season he was a shadow of former self.
Mbappe though is a good goal scorer for PSG but having crashed out of UCL in quarter final by an injury ravaged MAN UTD team was out of contention.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: bering on May 26, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Actually i want other players instead of Ronaldo or Messi being an the winner and i was wondering what indicators they will use to determine the winner on 2019 because last year they consider the player who playing good on world cup and Modrid became the winner from those factors and if this year the indicators would they use is who the players playing well on champion league i think my pick drop to Salah


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 26, 2019, 03:32:27 PM
Fyi: Yesterday Barcelona were beaten by Valencia in the Spanish Copa Del Rey Final match. which means, making the chances of Messi getting the Ballon D'Or to be reduced. We will wait for who will be a strong candidate for that title.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 26, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
Messi and Ronaldo are absolutely still everyone's favourite, even both were not playing so well in my opinion, but they deserve to be candidates. For this year, I personally wish Salah will win the Ballon d'Or. He played better than most top players in this whole season.
Salah & Mane, these two players have the opportunity to compete for the Ballon D'Or. It would be a good thing if in these 2 years you will get the title not from Ronaldo or Messi.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rizkyhiw on May 26, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
Yes, somehow I also don't like Messi and Ronaldo because yes everyone knows that both of them play not too well in this season regardless of the factors that influence it because I don't follow too many of them but I prefer other players who shine there because I am sure the award will be counted well by them, indeed it is currently very difficult to determine one of the great players of the world because nothing is very prominent and great, that is just an opinion.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: DeathAngel on May 26, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
It’s really difficult to see who will win the Ballon D’or. Messi & Ronaldo aren’t going to win the CL.
I have a feeling it’ll be Van Dijk but only if LFC wins the CL.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rijaljun on May 26, 2019, 08:50:14 PM
Messi and Ronaldo are absolutely still everyone's favourite, even both were not playing so well in my opinion, but they deserve to be candidates. For this year, I personally wish Salah will win the Ballon d'Or. He played better than most top players in this whole season.
Salah & Mane, these two players have the opportunity to compete for the Ballon D'Or. It would be a good thing if in these 2 years you will get the title not from Ronaldo or Messi.
But both have the last and most important challenge to pass, Final UCL. If they successfully winning UCL then it adds more chance for them to get Ballon d'Or Trophy. Oh, there are a lot other strong candidates too, but I don't really care. I want Salah to win this trophy.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: LTU_btc on May 26, 2019, 09:04:56 PM
This year there will be very difficult choice. And maybe it's a bit too early to give predictions - UCL final and Copa America results may have influence.
L. Messi have great individual performance this season. Probably his influence to Barca was biggest in recent seasons. But failure in Champions league and Copa makes his chances to win this trophy worse.
V. Van Dijk - well, why not. It's been a long time since defender won this trophy. But as other above says - he only can win if LFC will win Champions league.
Other players have only minimal chances to win. There we have two more Liverpool players - Salah and Mane.
And this year I don't see Ronaldo even in top 3.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: hahay on May 26, 2019, 09:26:11 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)
My take is on van Dijk, potential UCL winner if Liverpool eventually wins UCL this guy had been solid all through the season despite being a defender he also launches attacks and a threat to their opponent.
Recalled Canavarro of Italy also won a ballon D'or despite being a defender both messi and ronaldo had not been impressive this season thus both do not merit it. Sarah was impressive last season but this season he was a shadow of former self.
Mbappe though is a good goal scorer for PSG but having crashed out of UCL in quarter final by an injury ravaged MAN UTD team was out of contention.
Agree, a defender is also worthy of getting the Ballon D'or title because of the struggles throughout the season well, even though Liverpool did not get a treble but at least van Dijk and Liverpool were able to perform well in EPL and CL. Nothing prevents him if Liverpool are able to get the CL title this season most likely van Dijk will get it.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 27, 2019, 04:26:24 AM
Messi and Ronaldo are absolutely still everyone's favourite, even both were not playing so well in my opinion, but they deserve to be candidates. For this year, I personally wish Salah will win the Ballon d'Or. He played better than most top players in this whole season.
Salah & Mane, these two players have the opportunity to compete for the Ballon D'Or. It would be a good thing if in these 2 years you will get the title not from Ronaldo or Messi.
But both have the last and most important challenge to pass, Final UCL. If they successfully winning UCL then it adds more chance for them to get Ballon d'Or Trophy. Oh, there are a lot other strong candidates too, but I don't really care. I want Salah to win this trophy.
Haha, the point you want is "Salah" who has to get the title. whoever gets it this year I will agree as long as it's not between Ronaldo & Messi because I'm already tired of the best football players only between those two people.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rijaljun on May 27, 2019, 05:04:25 AM
Haha, the point you want is "Salah" who has to get the title. whoever gets it this year I will agree as long as it's not between Ronaldo & Messi because I'm already tired of the best football players only between those two people.
You are right! among those strong candidates, I think Salah is the strongest one and I want him to take the trophy this year. Don't you realize that England Teams are so strong this year?


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: iMark on May 27, 2019, 05:36:48 AM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?
I really appreciate de Jong's performance in the Champions league, he can bring Ajax to the semifinals, and that is already very good in my opinion, seeing the material of ajax players is not as good as other teams. but it was too early for De jong to win the Ballon d'or, many other players were more deserving of it. If Mo Salah can bring Liverpool win the champions league, he is be the best candidates for , me, they have top score at Premiere League, managed to bring Liverpool win champions, who else more better than him?


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Kevin77 on May 27, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
I think Ronaldo may get it just because he is getting way older to keep up with this great performances, I mean he can't continue to play like this for the next couple of seasons and we will see some drop. Until that happens dude moved to Juventus, made the team win the league, win the cup, go to champions league quarter finals and played his heart out at his age and still lead the Italian league (famous for less goals scored compared to rest of the European leagues) with god knows how many goals for a long time.

He showed that with a different team and a different system in a different situation he was still the leader and best player even at his passing age. That is why this could be his last trophy. Maybe they will give one to Messi next year to tie them together and then move on to next generation players.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 27, 2019, 11:58:28 AM
Haha, the point you want is "Salah" who has to get the title. whoever gets it this year I will agree as long as it's not between Ronaldo & Messi because I'm already tired of the best football players only between those two people.
You are right! among those strong candidates, I think Salah is the strongest one and I want him to take the trophy this year. Don't you realize that England Teams are so strong this year?
yes I also know that, this year's Premier League team dominates in Europe. even the final UEL & UCL final match all came from the English team. I can't wait for the Final match because in that match there will definitely be a very epic game.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 27, 2019, 12:24:12 PM
I think Ronaldo may get it just because he is getting way older to keep up with this great performances, I mean he can't continue to play like this for the next couple of seasons and we will see some drop. Until that happens dude moved to Juventus, made the team win the league, win the cup, go to champions league quarter finals and played his heart out at his age and still lead the Italian league (famous for less goals scored compared to rest of the European leagues) with god knows how many goals for a long time.

He showed that with a different team and a different system in a different situation he was still the leader and best player even at his passing age. That is why this could be his last trophy. Maybe they will give one to Messi next year to tie them together and then move on to next generation players.
I think Ronaldo will not get the title this year because there are still many other candidates who are more feasible than Ronaldo to get the Ballon D'Or. If Ronaldo is chosen as the winner of the Ballon D'or, I think football fans will be very disappointed with UEFA.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 27, 2019, 09:32:08 PM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?
I really appreciate de Jong's performance in the Champions league, he can bring Ajax to the semifinals, and that is already very good in my opinion, seeing the material of ajax players is not as good as other teams. but it was too early for De jong to win the Ballon d'or, many other players were more deserving of it. If Mo Salah can bring Liverpool win the champions league, he is be the best candidates for , me, they have top score at Premiere League, managed to bring Liverpool win champions, who else more better than him?
Yes, this season De Jong brought Ajax to win 2 domestic trophies. He is indeed one of the strong candidates to get the Ballon D'Or if Mane or Mo Salah failed to win the Champions League this year.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: karmakeddon on May 28, 2019, 12:23:47 AM
My shortlist for this would most likely be;

- Lionel Messi (He has garnered 51 goals and 15 assists in 3 competitions, and still has to play Copa Americas. If they win here, it will catapult him to a very high chance to win Ballon D' Or)
- Mo Salah (He has 26 goals and 8 assists in all competitions. Been instrumental in Liverpool despite recent injuries. He is also set to play for Egypt in the AFCON, with Egypt being one of the teams to watch)
- Sadio Mane (Has 26 goals and one assist in all competitions. Equaled his teammate, Salah's goal tally in lesser games. One of Liverpool's key players as well this year along with Salah. Will be playing in AFCON for Senegal)

Now, this is just my top 3 shortlist. Mane and Salah has equal chances of ousting Messi if either one of them wins their conference cups for their respective countries. However, if Lionel Messi wins it for Argentina, he will most likely solidify his position as the top rated player this year for the Ballon D'Or trophy due to him having a fantastic season this year with Barcelona.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 28, 2019, 04:10:07 AM
My shortlist for this would most likely be;

- Lionel Messi (He has garnered 51 goals and 15 assists in 3 competitions, and still has to play Copa Americas. If they win here, it will catapult him to a very high chance to win Ballon D' Or)
- Mo Salah (He has 26 goals and 8 assists in all competitions. Been instrumental in Liverpool despite recent injuries. He is also set to play for Egypt in the AFCON, with Egypt being one of the teams to watch)
- Sadio Mane (Has 26 goals and one assist in all competitions. Equaled his teammate, Salah's goal tally in lesser games. One of Liverpool's key players as well this year along with Salah. Will be playing in AFCON for Senegal)

Now, this is just my top 3 shortlist. Mane and Salah has equal chances of ousting Messi if either one of them wins their conference cups for their respective countries. However, if Lionel Messi wins it for Argentina, he will most likely solidify his position as the top rated player this year for the Ballon D'Or trophy due to him having a fantastic season this year with Barcelona.
I like the way you describe opinions like this. thank you for your opinion, from your opinion all those who read this also get information from the statistics of each player you choose is not just an assumption without data.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Sharon121212 on May 28, 2019, 05:29:07 AM
Regardless of the fact that Barcelona had a very embarrassing outing at the second leg of the semi finals meeting with Liverpool at anfield and bowed out if the tournament and still lost the final of the copa Del Rey final. Individual no one deserves the award than Leo Messi. He has the highest individual statistics than any other player this season and also has LA liga title so my best pick would be him


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 28, 2019, 06:06:23 AM
Regardless of the fact that Barcelona had a very embarrassing outing at the second leg of the semi finals meeting with Liverpool at anfield and bowed out if the tournament and still lost the final of the copa Del Rey final. Individual no one deserves the award than Leo Messi. He has the highest individual statistics than any other player this season and also has LA liga title so my best pick would be him
It would be very unfair for me if Messi gets the Ballon D'Or because there are still many other candidates who also appear impressive this season. but if Messi gets it I think it's time for UEFA to change regulations on how to determine which player deserves the title of the best player.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: kenzawak on May 28, 2019, 11:20:47 AM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

World cup was last year, it has nothing to do with this year's winner.
The only competition that will be looked at is the Champion's League and maybe the Copa America.
So the winner should be from a top team or a player who has been way better than the others.
Messi is the Soulier d'Or, he won La Liga and went in the semis in the CL.
He's the clear favorite.

Behind him, it should be between Ronaldo, Mbappe, Van Dijck, Hazard (who could win the Europa League), Salah. I also believe someone like De Ligt (best player in the Dutch League) should be close. Same for Mane.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on May 28, 2019, 06:19:49 PM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)

World cup was last year, it has nothing to do with this year's winner.
The only competition that will be looked at is the Champion's League and maybe the Copa America.
So the winner should be from a top team or a player who has been way better than the others.
Messi is the Soulier d'Or, he won La Liga and went in the semis in the CL.
He's the clear favorite.

Behind him, it should be between Ronaldo, Mbappe, Van Dijck, Hazard (who could win the Europa League), Salah. I also believe someone like De Ligt (best player in the Dutch League) should be close. Same for Mane.
I agree with the names of the strikers you mentioned, but for defenders I think there is very little chance of getting the Ballon D'or, we can see a few years before none of the defenders were candidates.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 08, 2019, 01:01:34 AM
guys, in the Portugal match against Swiss C. Ronaldo scored a hattrick and brought Portugal to the final party. is it if Ronaldo is able to bring Portugal to the championship in this match do you think there are still opportunities for Ronaldo to win the Ballon D'oR?


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rachman mahesa on June 08, 2019, 02:28:50 AM
Regardless of the fact that Barcelona had a very embarrassing outing at the second leg of the semi finals meeting with Liverpool at anfield and bowed out if the tournament and still lost the final of the copa Del Rey final. Individual no one deserves the award than Leo Messi. He has the highest individual statistics than any other player this season and also has LA liga title so my best pick would be him
It would be very unfair for me if Messi gets the Ballon D'Or because there are still many other candidates who also appear impressive this season. but if Messi gets it I think it's time for UEFA to change regulations on how to determine which player deserves the title of the best player.
I think Messi is not the right person to get the Ballon D'Or this year. I strongly agree that there are many other candidates besides Messi. Indeed, for individuals Messi nothing can match Messi. So for Messi, there will be no Ballon D'Or title for now.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rosezionjohn on June 08, 2019, 06:24:50 AM
guys, in the Portugal match against Swiss C. Ronaldo scored a hattrick and brought Portugal to the final party. is it if Ronaldo is able to bring Portugal to the championship in this match do you think there are still opportunities for Ronaldo to win the Ballon D'oR?

Yeah, I had the same question. If Portugal wins the UEFA Nations League and if he becomes instrumental in the finals, he should be back in contention for the Ballon D'or award again.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 08, 2019, 01:05:30 PM
Regardless of the fact that Barcelona had a very embarrassing outing at the second leg of the semi finals meeting with Liverpool at anfield and bowed out if the tournament and still lost the final of the copa Del Rey final. Individual no one deserves the award than Leo Messi. He has the highest individual statistics than any other player this season and also has LA liga title so my best pick would be him
It would be very unfair for me if Messi gets the Ballon D'Or because there are still many other candidates who also appear impressive this season. but if Messi gets it I think it's time for UEFA to change regulations on how to determine which player deserves the title of the best player.
I think Messi is not the right person to get the Ballon D'Or this year. I strongly agree that there are many other candidates besides Messi. Indeed, for individuals Messi nothing can match Messi. So for Messi, there will be no Ballon D'Or title for now.
yes, I think this year will be different. maybe this year the Ballon D'oR will be a defender or midfielder. Van dijk is still a favorite player for this.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 08, 2019, 02:38:24 PM
guys, in the Portugal match against Swiss C. Ronaldo scored a hattrick and brought Portugal to the final party. is it if Ronaldo is able to bring Portugal to the championship in this match do you think there are still opportunities for Ronaldo to win the Ballon D'oR?

Yeah, I had the same question. If Portugal wins the UEFA Nations League and if he becomes instrumental in the finals, he should be back in contention for the Ballon D'or award again.
I have asked a lot of this and the results stated that if Ronaldo won the final match he still could not get the Ballon D'oR because other candidates like Van Dijk still favorites.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 11, 2019, 06:38:15 AM
at the end of the UEFA Nation League Final match, Ronaldo was interviewed about the Ballon D'Or and Ronaldo did not want to talk about it, he had not thought about that possibility and would focus on thinking about next season.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rachman mahesa on June 11, 2019, 06:55:22 AM
at the end of the UEFA Nation League Final match, Ronaldo was interviewed about the Ballon D'Or and Ronaldo did not want to talk about it, he had not thought about that possibility and would focus on thinking about next season.
I think Ronaldo doesn't want that award again. Maybe he often gets the title so he won't think about it anymore. With awards and trophies in the UEFA Nation League tournament, he has added a series of awards to clubs and countries.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 11, 2019, 08:16:02 AM
at the end of the UEFA Nation League Final match, Ronaldo was interviewed about the Ballon D'Or and Ronaldo did not want to talk about it, he had not thought about that possibility and would focus on thinking about next season.
I think Ronaldo doesn't want that award again. Maybe he often gets the title so he won't think about it anymore. With awards and trophies in the UEFA Nation League tournament, he has added a series of awards to clubs and countries.
Yes, maybe Ronaldo thinks there are still players who deserve that compared to him. Ronaldo is typically a hard worker, a season to come even though he will be 35 I think he will still try to be the best player.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: bering on June 11, 2019, 08:24:45 AM
guys, in the Portugal match against Swiss C. Ronaldo scored a hattrick and brought Portugal to the final party. is it if Ronaldo is able to bring Portugal to the championship in this match do you think there are still opportunities for Ronaldo to win the Ballon D'oR?

Yeah, I had the same question. If Portugal wins the UEFA Nations League and if he becomes instrumental in the finals, he should be back in contention for the Ballon D'or award again.
I have asked a lot of this and the results stated that if Ronaldo won the final match he still could not get the Ballon D'oR because other candidates like Van Dijk still favorites.
If i'm not mistaken since the first time this award was held the winner were dominated by attacking midfielders or strikers players and rare to see defenders or midfielders can get this trophy and i think this year is not so different although Van Dijk was playing so well in premier league and champion league but the winner of ballon D'or probably will belongs to attackers players and not impossible to see Messi or Ronaldo lifted again the trophy


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Pmalek on June 11, 2019, 09:11:48 AM
Bernardo Silva got the MVP for the UEFA Nations League, so even with his 3 goals in the semi-finals Ronaldo wasn't picked as the best player of the tournament. I doubt he is a favourite to win the Ballon D'or. It will probably be Messi or van Dijk. Messi will be the favourite if he manages to carry Argentina to glory in the Copa America. Mo Salah has been injured for a while and I don't see him getting the award.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 11, 2019, 10:34:13 PM
A strong candidate for the Ballon D'or that is widely reported is Mbappe, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gerard Pique.

Pique?? Lol, I am surprised that you list the name on your candidate.  ;D

I am not sure with Mbappe and Lionel Messi to be selected for Ballon D'or since they couldn't reach final UCL. While Ronaldo still has a chance after he got the trophy of UEFA Nations League currently.  

Anyway, I think there are other names from Liverpool that deserve to win Ballon D'or. Virgil van Dijk and Mohamed Salah should have a high chance to win Ballon D'or. They have a big role to make Liverpool be a champion of UCL.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: kenzawak on June 11, 2019, 11:04:49 PM
Bernardo Silva got the MVP for the UEFA Nations League, so even with his 3 goals in the semi-finals Ronaldo wasn't picked as the best player of the tournament. I doubt he is a favourite to win the Ballon D'or. It will probably be Messi or van Dijk. Messi will be the favourite if he manages to carry Argentina to glory in the Copa America. Mo Salah has been injured for a while and I don't see him getting the award.

I agree.
Haven't thought of Bernardo Silva actually. He had a hell of a season and could be top 10... but he's not recognized enough to be a contender.
As of now, my top 5 would be :
1 Messi
2 Van Dijk
3 Ronaldo
4 Mbappe
5 Mane or maybe Salah


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 12, 2019, 05:18:21 AM
guys, in the Portugal match against Swiss C. Ronaldo scored a hattrick and brought Portugal to the final party. is it if Ronaldo is able to bring Portugal to the championship in this match do you think there are still opportunities for Ronaldo to win the Ballon D'oR?

Yeah, I had the same question. If Portugal wins the UEFA Nations League and if he becomes instrumental in the finals, he should be back in contention for the Ballon D'or award again.
I have asked a lot of this and the results stated that if Ronaldo won the final match he still could not get the Ballon D'oR because other candidates like Van Dijk still favorites.
If i'm not mistaken since the first time this award was held the winner were dominated by attacking midfielders or strikers players and rare to see defenders or midfielders can get this trophy and i think this year is not so different although Van Dijk was playing so well in premier league and champion league but the winner of ballon D'or probably will belongs to attackers players and not impossible to see Messi or Ronaldo lifted again the trophy
yes indeed the Ballon D'Or is always dominated by attackers or midfielders because statistically the most visible are the two pillars. I think it's time for UEFA to regulate overall player ratings.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 12, 2019, 05:44:17 AM
Bernardo Silva got the MVP for the UEFA Nations League, so even with his 3 goals in the semi-finals Ronaldo wasn't picked as the best player of the tournament. I doubt he is a favourite to win the Ballon D'or. It will probably be Messi or van Dijk. Messi will be the favourite if he manages to carry Argentina to glory in the Copa America. Mo Salah has been injured for a while and I don't see him getting the award.
Bernardo Silva also deserves to be a prime candidate because in this season he has already won 5 trophies with clubs and Portugal, of course, this is a number of trophies that are enough to get a player in 1 season.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 12, 2019, 06:23:09 AM
Bernardo Silva got the MVP for the UEFA Nations League, so even with his 3 goals in the semi-finals Ronaldo wasn't picked as the best player of the tournament. I doubt he is a favourite to win the Ballon D'or. It will probably be Messi or van Dijk. Messi will be the favourite if he manages to carry Argentina to glory in the Copa America. Mo Salah has been injured for a while and I don't see him getting the award.

I agree.
Haven't thought of Bernardo Silva actually. He had a hell of a season and could be top 10... but he's not recognized enough to be a contender.
As of now, my top 5 would be :
1 Messi
2 Van Dijk
3 Ronaldo
4 Mbappe
5 Mane or maybe Salah
of all these names I only chose 3 strong candidates:
1. M. False
2. Van Dijk
3. Messi

I'm a Ronaldo fan but this season Messi has been so impressive by scoring a lot of goals in the Spanish league and also in the Champions League.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: roosbit on June 12, 2019, 06:35:29 AM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)
Good analysis, based on this am actually thinking the Egyptian Pharaoh is more liked than Mbappe which is the winning factor and besides the English league has a much larger audience than ligue 1 which if tabled well gives Salah a huge advantage.
Am just hoping we don't go back to the Ronaldo, Messi pool when we have lots of great talent all around the world that deserve this trophy at the point. Who better to receive the Ballon Dor than Salah.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: ricardobs on June 12, 2019, 06:55:43 AM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?
I really appreciate de Jong's performance in the Champions league, he can bring Ajax to the semifinals, and that is already very good in my opinion, seeing the material of ajax players is not as good as other teams. but it was too early for De jong to win the Ballon d'or, many other players were more deserving of it. If Mo Salah can bring Liverpool win the champions league, he is be the best candidates for , me, they have top score at Premiere League, managed to bring Liverpool win champions, who else more better than him?
Yes, this season De Jong brought Ajax to win 2 domestic trophies. He is indeed one of the strong candidates to get the Ballon D'Or if Mane or Mo Salah failed to win the Champions League this year.
I used to think salah should have been the winner but we have seen them lose to barcelona 3-0 with salah on the pitch and than we saw them beat barcelona and eliminate them 4-0 when salah was off the team because of his injury. Don't get me wrong salah is a great player but it wasn't like messi barcelona deal or ronaldo madrid deal, without salah liverpool is still a decent team, maybe wouldn't be able to get the cup but still would be an alright team. So somebody else should win it this year.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: FanEagle on June 13, 2019, 10:08:48 AM
Even though people are still looking beyond Ronaldo and Messi because they got eliminated and trying to find people who were in the finals of champions league I think we can still assume they had a very worthy season.

Ronaldo went to Juventus at his age (lets face it, he is aging) and still made that team a Serie A champions and went as far as what quarter finals? That is still a decent achievement considering there were few people on his team that could have done that and it was mostly Ronaldos achievement himself.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 13, 2019, 10:43:39 AM
Hmm, this is difficult question. Let's see my list:
- Ronaldo
- Messi
- Neymar
Failed at UCL and WC so a big no.

- van Dijk, potential UCL winner
A defender.

- Modric, WC runner up
- Hazard, WC 3rd pos, good EPL stats
No trophies

- Mbappe, WC & Ligue 1 winner, Ligue 1 top goalscorer
- Salah, EPL top goalscorer & potential UCL winner
So between these two strikers, I would recommend Mbappe :)
Good analysis, based on this am actually thinking the Egyptian Pharaoh is more liked than Mbappe which is the winning factor and besides the English league has a much larger audience than ligue 1 which if tabled well gives Salah a huge advantage.
Am just hoping we don't go back to the Ronaldo, Messi pool when we have lots of great talent all around the world that deserve this trophy at the point. Who better to receive the Ballon Dor than Salah.
players in the world's most popular leagues such as Premiere League are strong candidates for the ballon D'Or. the selection of Ballon D'Or winners is based on voting from important people in football throughout the world.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: rosezionjohn on June 13, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
Even though people are still looking beyond Ronaldo and Messi because they got eliminated and trying to find people who were in the finals of champions league I think we can still assume they had a very worthy season.

Ronaldo went to Juventus at his age (lets face it, he is aging) and still made that team a Serie A champions and went as far as what quarter finals? That is still a decent achievement considering there were few people on his team that could have done that and it was mostly Ronaldos achievement himself.

Some see Champions League as the biggest factor in winning the Ballon D'or. It's also funny they include Messi in the conversation because Barcelona won La Liga and forget about Ronaldo who also won in Serie A with Juve. They discount the fact that Ronaldo also won an international trophy with Portugal, something Messi hasn't achieved yet.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 13, 2019, 02:02:45 PM
Even though people are still looking beyond Ronaldo and Messi because they got eliminated and trying to find people who were in the finals of champions league I think we can still assume they had a very worthy season.

Ronaldo went to Juventus at his age (lets face it, he is aging) and still made that team a Serie A champions and went as far as what quarter finals? That is still a decent achievement considering there were few people on his team that could have done that and it was mostly Ronaldos achievement himself.
yes indeed in the criteria of winning the Ballon D'Or is not chosen simply because how many in 1 season he won the trophy but based on the individual abilities of players such as how many assists, goals, passages and the like. The Ballon D'Or is an individual award so this will be seen from the statistics record of each player. But, indeed in this season there are still players who are statistically better than Messi & Ronaldo.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: andrearz on June 13, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
Even though people are still looking beyond Ronaldo and Messi because they got eliminated and trying to find people who were in the finals of champions league I think we can still assume they had a very worthy season.

Ronaldo went to Juventus at his age (lets face it, he is aging) and still made that team a Serie A champions and went as far as what quarter finals? That is still a decent achievement considering there were few people on his team that could have done that and it was mostly Ronaldos achievement himself.

Some see Champions League as the biggest factor in winning the Ballon D'or. It's also funny they include Messi in the conversation because Barcelona won La Liga and forget about Ronaldo who also won in Serie A with Juve. They discount the fact that Ronaldo also won an international trophy with Portugal, something Messi hasn't achieved yet.
The UCL title is only one of the judgments, the Ballon D'Or is an individual award, so anyone if he is statistically very good then he deserves to be a candidate including Messi & Ronaldo even though I don't support both of them.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: webtricks on June 13, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
But, indeed in this season there are still players who are statistically better than Messi & Ronaldo.

Can you name a single player who was better than Messi statistically?

First I want to clear that Ballon d'Or isn't given for Football season. It is rather awarded as per calendar year. So the period under consideration will be Dec 2018 to Nov 2019.
Mbappe was superb last year which earned him a spot in top 5 last year. But this year he is pretty average so far. He won't even make to top 5 this year. Then who? Well let's see.
1. Van Dijk: Ballon d'Or is awarded as per weighted average of total scores from different judges. Now here comes the personal judgement of different judges. Some prefer individual performance while some give more importance to team performance. Van Dijk is most successful team performer. However, individually I think he's too overrated. Many defenders had better seasons than him in past but weren't even considered in Top 10.

2. Ronaldo: No! Not his best season. Not even one of his top 5 seasons. Even failed to win Copa Italia. Juventus was winning Series A from last 8 seasons. Nations League is not a worthy trophy to be considered. Statistically he wasn't top scorer in both Series A and UCL. He may make to top 5 but not top 3 this year.

3. Messi: Statistically the best player this year so far and most probably will end as the best player. However, Barcelona had worse season than last. Failed to win Copa Del Rey. But his individual brilliance is enough to rank him among top 2. However, winning copa America can assure his title.

4. Others: Raheem Sterling can be surprise entry in top 5 or even top 3. His team had best domestic season in whole Europe. He's been most instrumental among all his teammates. Hazard also had brilliant season but Europa League winner getting ballon d'or would be disgrace for award. Salah wasn't the best player in Liverpool this season. I prefer Mane over him for top 5.

So my top 5 in no order are: Messi, Van Dijk, Raheem Sterling, Sadio Mane, Hazard/Ronaldo.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: Apes on June 13, 2019, 04:37:59 PM
forget about Ronaldo and Messi they have no chance this time. FIFA Ballon d'Or this time will nominees with a new name. it's time for a new generation, I will recommend Moh Salah as FIFA best player this year. there was not much achievement he could give to team or nation other than winning UCL but this player was phenomenal and deserved to be chosen.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: davinchi on June 14, 2019, 07:47:11 AM
The Champions League is almost over, the interesting thing to talk about next is Who will get the Ballon D'or trophy? We know before that the strong candidates for the title are Lionel Messi & De Jong because the Barcelona and Ajax teams have the chance to win Trible but now Barcelona & Ajax are not competing in the UCL Finals. Who do you think the decent players will get the best player title?
Uuhm… It's probably going to be anyone from the next two teams that are going to play the final match. Some. People are saying it's going to be Salah, but I think there is another competition which is Mbappe, he's been doing very well this year. But we don't know yet. Anyone of them that gets the trophy truly deserves it for sure cause they have worked very hard this year to get to where they are today.

And by the way, as for Messi and C Ronaldo, they have done it a lot, so maybe it's time they give way for others to be recognized as well. Lol. But like I said, I don't support anyone in particular, cause they all work hard and they all deserve to be rewarded with a trophy.


Title: Re: Who are the strong candidates who will get this year's Ballon D'or trophy?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 14, 2019, 09:07:54 AM
It’s got to be Van Dijk, he was an absolute rock all season which ended in LFC being Champions of Europe.
Some people say Mbappe but PSG flopped in the CL (as usual), Mbappe didn’t have a big impact.
The French league is crap too so you can’t make an argument for anybody doing well there.
You could say Messi, as usual he was great in La Liga but where was he when it counted in the CL at Anfield - 4-0.

My prediction -

1.) Van Dijk
2.) Messi
3.) Mbappe