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But you cannot say he is not Satoshi the inventor of Bitcoin.  After all, look at all of his patents and now even the US government is awarding copyrights to him which can ONLY be given to the original author.  It's a fact: CSW is Satoshi.

Cry all you like, you won't change the facts.

Why should I like CSW? I can't understand why are you thinking he is Satoshi. Having too many patents doesn't make him Satoshi or any awards. I think you missed a point. There is nothing to make us cry here. It is so simple if he wants to prove that who Satoshi is. Satoshi has a big amount of BTC as we all know. I am waiting collect all of them in a wallet... Just an idea.

But you're not a lawyer, and lawyers have openly said anyone could have registered to copyright the bitcoin whitepaper. The government even gave a press release stating they do not do in-depth investigations with such applications.

And we all know that the US government is doing only good things to the world :)  Just having patents doesn't mean that i'm the founder of something.
I still think that satoshi is a group of people who still wanna stay anonymous. maybe craig was involved in any way and he is the one who's looking for attention.

Yeah, I'm not a lawyer. And registering whitepaper does not make him Satoshi.

In addition, by law, the person who put forward a claim is obliged to prove it! The gentleman claims to be Satoshi in every environment. Just claim! There's no evidence!

So, if I register the whitepaper on me, will I be Satoshi? Let's be serious, that's enough comedy!

Ah, the forum Troll is back.  ;D

Ok so the guy has some money to file a Copyright claim on the Bitcoin White paper, obviously something that can be done by the average Joe on the street with some money to burn.

As far as my knowledge about Copyright is concerned, it can be challenged with a little bit of money too.  ;) It is also a criminal offense if you file a claim for something and you cannot show that you have a legitimate ownership of the thing you are claiming ownership of.

As far as I know, CW has not signed a single Bitcoin address that is known to have been used by Satoshi Nakamoto and he even gave false information on owning a early Bitcoin address and the real owner came forward by signing that address... ;D ;D ;D 

The main test is if he can move the big hoard of Bitcoin that Satoshi Nakamoto has under his control but so far he is not taking the challenge and have chosen to instead cloud the issue with so many of his shenanigans. But I am not wondering why Craig Wright is doing what he is doing. Because he is good in seeking publicity and he knows how to use the media mainstream or not into his favor. Craig Wright has all the right in the world to believe that he is the real Satoshi but he can never impose that the industry will believe and install his name as the real one.

if you want to be brain dead and gullible that is your choice and Craig's chance to empty your pocket.  ;)

Well, since he claims to be Satoshi. Why did he initially want to remain anonymous? I think CSW should explain this before! This event is the biggest proof that CSW is not Satoshi.

So what of he has patents, or if the US government is awarding him copyrights it doesn't prove anything about him being Satoshi who invented Bitcoin. Also, it's also possible that he is not the real Satoshi and that the patent was only awarded to him, and maybe he just wanted to get all the credit knowing that the real Satoshi wanted to stay anonymous.

It doesn't matter, what matters here is the belief of the people, if they believe that would give a positive market sentiment in the space and would result to an increase of BSV and might be the most successful coin this year.

However, after this Massive Surge After Craig Wright Claims The Official Rights Over Satoshi Papers (https://cryptoglobalist.com/2019/05/22/bitcoin-sv-bsv-massive-surge-after-craig-wright-claims-the-official-rights-over-satoshi-papers/ Bitcoin SV (BSV)), which is clearly a hype, then this happens, https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-sv/,  price started to tank.

not liking him is not a personal opinion, it is about the fact that he is a scammer and nobody likes scammers specially those who steal other people's identity and abuse it for their own personal gains by fooling people like OP...
these people and all those who support them should be behind bars because they are robbing people in broad daylight.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144781.0
Early Adopter Proves Ownership of Bitcoin Address Claimed by Wright

If you are not able to prove ownership of a bitcoin address .... you're not satoshi :D :P

getting patents is nothing if the tech is new. ibm and alibaba gets tons of patents because there are so many things to discover or create.csw is a trash thats all.

If you read the OP's previous messages, he makes it clear that he believes CSW is actually Satoshi. He has also bashed bitcoin as an investment since 2013 I believe - meaning he may have missed out on the massive bull run of 2017.

He's entitled to believe CSW is Satoshi. And I will remain a skeptic of that claim, until CSW moves funds or signs messages from the first blocks.

Proving ownership of an address proves... ownership of an address. Nothing more. Whoever signs Satoshi's address could have obtained the private keys from him.

Ultimately the only power Satoshi has left is his however many coins so it would be relevant. Beyond that he's been left far behind and that's what he wanted all along.

Bitcoin doesn't need to be patent, and the original inventor doesn't need to prove himself as the inventor of bitcoin.
The real Satoshi Nakamoto still prefers to remain in the dark and don't tell anyone that he is the real inventor of bitcoin.
I only smile to see many people tried to prove that they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto, but they cannot sign in into the wallet of Satoshi Nakamoto itself.
That is strange, why the owner of the wallet cannot sign into his own wallet and it doesn't make sense hahaha ;D
I don't care who will be the real Satoshi Nakamoto because I think he will not reveal himself to public easily and he likes to stay in the grey side as ordinary people which other people don't know who is he.

Hey, where have you been?  ;D

But what you are stating is not a fact. CSW is not Satoshi and no matter how many patents/copyrights he file we all know that is not the originator of bitcoin and the whitepaper.  ;D

He was obviously around during the early days of bitcoin but most people don't think he was the original creator.  Of course signing those early keys would have done away with the doubters but he could have always obtained the keys from the real satoshi since most suspect he is dead.

The problem with this theory is that he'd have to be an unmitigated masochist to deal with the constant humiliations of being mocked and called Faketoshi without even so much as moving the first bitcoins. Ockam's Razor suggests he does not have the private keys he claims to have.

I actually don't want to argue about this anymore, why is everyone trying to find out Satoshi? what's in it for them?
All speculate without clear data and evidence, satoshi has a bitcoin in his cup and try to prove it to your speculation to prove it. And in my opinion CSW doesn't have it.

"the forum Troll"
As if there is one, primary 'the' forum Troll.  I am honored.

Glad you all missed me.  I've been helping CSW get his patents and trademarks together.  

hahahah.  Funny enough, I am a lawyer! 

It prove only ownership of an address, yes of course, but eventually this will be one of the best proofs to show.
Imagine if there are more "satoshi"  addresses able to sign a message in the same time...
Personally I don't think such scenario could be classified as a simple "proof of ownership" of these addresses.

If you are a lawyer, that's interesting. Other lawyers have a different take than you, clearly. Also, there are different specializations, so being a lawyer does not mean your perspective necessarily carries weight. Also, it seems a little weird to me that a lawyer would throw the word "slavetards" so often, given that the profession is bound by a code of ethics. Maybe you went to a law school and decided to go another route professionally?

I'm not saying I believe Craig but isn't it possible that the keys were lost or destroyed.  There is a lot of speculation that his partner Dave had them until he died as well.

How does this factually prove anything about Satoshi? :D

The US copyright office will award you the same copyright registration if you pay the fee. They simply act as a record keeper of who files copyright registrations. The validity of any given copyright claim and disputes over ownership are matters for the federal court system, not the copyright office. The copyright office doesn't care and they aren't making a judgment as to who Satoshi really is.

Most of topics made by OP are meant to be controversial and attack bitcoin or people posting here. He knows that no patent was given to Craig but still he posts about it to make you all come and try to correct him. If you want a discussion don't waste your time here. You will try and counter his arguments and he'll still in the end say that he was right from the start or leave this thread and disappear and come back next week to inform us that Bitcoin is stupid.

Quoted for reference. Completely OT. Discussion here is not related price speculation.

That is a seriously deluded person right there, just like his hero Craig Wright.

The fact that Craig Wright paid a couple hundred bucks (or whatever the fee was) and filled out a form means nothing. Literally you could have done the same thing as he did. So could I. So could anyone. All he did was fill out a US government form and pay the fee to file it. He is no more satoshi than I am.

It's a fact: CSW is a scammer.

lololololol. 'code of ethics'???!!!  Haven't you seen what lawyers are doing these days?  e.g. Avenatti?, Comey?  WTF?  Are you blind? 

You will be sued next.

NEVER A FACT!!!!!!

Right, it's not 100% proof. More like 99.999% beyond a reasonable doubt proof. It's extremely likely that *only* Satoshi has block#0 private key. CSW obviously lacks that key and thus extremely unlikely to be Satoshi.

Ooh, can I be next? CSW is a scammer and is not Satoshi.

^ For me, the way Craig Steven Wright approached his claim of being the Satoshi is really unconvincing. He seems like he is trying to take candy from another kid. A stepson who claims a need to get his parent's attention and just simply a person who wants a great recognition. I found an interesting article about this. And according to the article, before Craig Write, the Bitcoin's trademark was owned by the Escobar Family.

Craig Wright is a scammer who has published a bunch of obviously fake evidence trying to connect himself with the creation of Bitcoin but he has no connection.

what exactly do you expect to happen from all this?

you think faketoshi can patent troll and sue the bitcoin community into submission? if anything, all these frivolous lawsuits are gonna land wright or his lawyers in jail for contempt of court one of these days.

Since you claim that you help him with filing all these patents and trademarks and you are really close to Craig, why not you advice him that the easiest thing to do is to sign a message from the genesis block and prove that he is legit, will you tell that he will do that in the next ten years or he lost those addresses  ::). You really do not need to go to these lengths to prove that he is the creator, just advice him to sign the genesis block but i am sure he will have another excuse for doing so  :D.

Sue me, csw is a scammer moron, who needs to be knocked the fuck out, same with mark karpeles.

Well, I am honored if it's true someone helping CSW behind the scenes responded to me and triggered a red-tagging by a Blockstream founder. This is a small world. I am a bit humored by all of this. Anyway, no offense intended to anyone - I am here to enjoy this historical ride.

OP is clearly a troll (or mentally ill) I have seen his other threads. CSW was proven to be a fake long ago by multiple people, he had all the chances to actually prove his identity if he wanted to. You also only need to hear him speak about technical details to realize that he is not Satoshi. The copyright claim was also just bullshit anyways. I wish people would stop giving the guy attention, all exchanges should refuse to list his shit coin.

This is the comprehensive evidence that CSW is NOT Satoshi : Link (https://www.stopcraigwright.com/evidence)

Everyone is Satoshi, expect CSW  :D

He did not prove anything regarding his claims and if he is not able to do anything of that sort he should not reveal and come in the forefront with all those claims but that being said you cannot question his technical knowledge, i have heard some of his discussions earlier and i thought it was a joke when he said bitcoin was turing complete well back in 2015 but later it was proved that bitcoin is in fact turing complete and it was a jaw drop moment for me, so i would not question his technical skills but no one is Satoshi unless there is concrete proof cryptographically.

You've been suckered.

Bitcoin is not turing complete.  If some small additions were made (e.g. enabling covenants) it would be, all wright did is repeat long known and publicly printed stuff and jumble it up with technobabble to confuse the reader and pretend that (1) he was showing turing completeness (he wasn't) and (2) that he was saying something new or unknown.

It is also not particularly desirable or even useful for a thing like bitcoin to be made turing complete.  Bitcoin isn't a computer (if it were it would be the stupidest computer ever conceived) but a _validator_.  Turing completeness isn't required to validate any claim.

I would really like to know how wright managed to fool you on this.  He repeated over and over again that he had cellular automata running on bitcoin proving its turing completeness, but then never pointed to where they were (and, of course, people looked and there were none).  So is that all it takes? just repeat something a number of times and then wait a year and wham, a few percent of people will just believe?

You are the boss buddy ;), but i have gone through Clemens Lay papers and Craig's and with the possibility of functions they propose it is indeed turing complete, i have not tested to come to an indefinite conclusion myself and i know bitcoin does not have the loop function to be a complete turing complete machine, in Craig's paper he used simulation of linear iteration using an unrolled loop function, theoretically that is possible, happy to learn more about that from you. :)

If Bitcoin as it exists were turing complete, than craig would be able to point to the transactions he claimed he had in the network implementing a turing complete cellular automata.  Yet no such transactions exist.

Craig's paper is mashing together terminology culled from the bitcoin-wizards irc logs and bitcoin-dev (e.g. total language), none of which means turing completeness.

If you can't actually defend the claim you shouldn't be repeating it, unless you want to get downrated for promoting a scam.  Not trying to be mean, but people confirming things they half understand and repeating it is a big part of how he perpetrates his scam.

He watched to much Marvel specially Iron Man.

It is like he said "I am Iron Man." ;D
Now he is a target. I dont really care now about his claims but he is really making some bad decisions here.
Awards? That is for starters. Next time it will be his life which is on the line.

He may have wished he didnt do it.

That is true as there is no transaction that could prove his claims.

The mashing up of terminology made me believe that it was turing complete, i will never promote a scam, so go easy on me buddy. :-*

Where did you get your troll certificate? I want one, too. <3

On a serious note: You do realize anyone could have claimed that copyright for them. The copyright claim happens automatically for anyone trying it.
NOTHING IS PROVEN, expecpt the fact that CSW is a lying, attention seeking POS. So nothing new really.

Nonsense post, If CSW is Satoshi Nakamoto then he must prove it but he can't simply move a single or even a fraction of a Bitcoin from the genesis block. Craig Steven Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto, he only wants publicity, end of the story.

On the Satoshiness of Dr Craig S Wright  (from @shadders333)
https://i.ibb.co/XbK2CvQ/VreUK7J.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://www.yours.org/content/on-the-satoshiness-of-dr-craig-s-wright-6d80f2050fe1

So you are telling that if he could move bitcoin from the genesis block you will accept him as Satoshi  ::) . How long you are in the bitcoin platform to be ignorant like this, just understand the basics first dude, looks like you have no clue that genesis block zero is not movable. When it comes to Craig it is documented that he is deceptive and went on to provide fake documents in court, the legal course will play on its own and we as a audience will witness the drama unfolding. ;D

Some will never like him I fear

https://coingeek.com/craig-wright-libel-suits-crypto-critics/

Guess Satoshi s been forced into reaction mode?